WEBVTT - Hometown Hero 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.800 This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:04.640 with iHeartRadio. 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:07.000 It's almost famous podcast. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.000 We were here breaking down Grant's season of The Bachelor. 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.840 Now we are at hometown's this week. There's so much 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.880 to talk about, Ashley. I'm going to start out the 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.919 podcast with saying this, it is one of the most 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.680 shocking exits of the season. Now, before we get to that, 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:24.200 let's break down the episode. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.240 Are you ready? Yes, we have Juliana's date for the 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:29.800 first date. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.120 It's in Newton, Massachusetts, East Coast, something you're familiar with. 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.080 I like the vibe, very familiar vibe. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.720 I like the North End. Well, I guess it was 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.360 the little Italy in her town, but you know Boston's 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:44.760 North End, and. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.320 I just don't. I don't know. How do you feel 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:49.600 about this? 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.040 Because I know Juliana is the frontrunner, but overall I 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.320 love her date, still wanting more. There's only one person 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.280 in this competition that I feel real connection with. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:00:59.080 I loved her date. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.520 Actually date part was good. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:03.360 Yeah, but I put it at number two as the 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.120 hometowns for the week, Yeah, confidently at number two. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:08.000 Yeah. 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.280 I loved her family. I loved her dad. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.160 Now dad, granted, I married into an Italian family, so 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.319 there is a level here where I just watched this 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.600 and felt I did feel like there was missing something, 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.160 because what I love it about Italian family is this, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:30.759 they are un apologetically almost rude and not like they're 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.720 loving when you're inside of it. When you're inside of 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.360 that circle, you feel like you have the most love 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.600 in the world. When you're on the outside looking in, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:46.960 especially on a first date, they're almost mean to you, 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.160 and that's okay once you understand what they're getting at. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.320 And I wish they would have been a little meaner 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.200 to Grant, and I don't know why they weren't, because 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.160 I know they wanted. 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.680 To be that teaser that they had last week where 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.200 that you caught the dad's saying you're kissing. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.560 My daughter in front of me or whatever did. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.920 Seem so scary in the previews and such like a 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.640 jokester moment in real life, which was cute. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.639 I like that moment. It was my Probably my favorite 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:12.560 moment was the day. 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.440 That and when the dad said I love him, I 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.920 love the guy like that. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.320 Was really must have made Juliana feel really good. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.120 It had to him. 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:26.359 I just I've been around Italians like one hundred percent Italians. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:31.639 So when I first met Jess's family, her aunts, they 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.400 sat me at a table and they sat across from me, 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:36.920 and I was on one side of the table and 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.919 they drilled me and they said, we like you Ben enough, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.720 but if you hurt Jess, we will hurt you. That 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.239 was how they opened my very first time ever meeting them. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.120 And I remember leaving that being like, I don't know 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:51.720 what they meant, and I had to get it explain 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.240 to me because I've never been around. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.560 That the mob was going after you. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:56.440 I think they could have called upon him. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.720 Okay, Can I just say that Jess doesn't strike me 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.880 as like uber Italian in any way. 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.400 Yeah, She's like this sweet southern bell to me. 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.280 She does not register Italian, big Italian Northeast. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.040 Yeah, she doesn't feel comfortable in those, but she lets 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.040 her ants do what they want to do, right so 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.840 they she knows that they have an element to them 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.000 that she doesn't have, and I think she trusts it. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.760 And I think when somebody like me walks in where 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:25.440 Jess is like I think I'm gonna marry this guy, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.720 She's like he needs to be able to handle this. 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.560 I have a shirt upstairs when I left and they 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.720 gave me So here's how it kind of comes together, 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.200 is I left that and they said welcome to the 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.400 Italian family as they give me a T shirt that 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.600 had that on there. And I still have said this day, 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.960 but I missed in this hometown, and I don't know 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.880 what I mean. I don't understand exactly why didn't exist, 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.560 how they weren't harder on Grant, because the Italians don't 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.800 just let things go like this. The dad doesn't naturally 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.200 just say I love the guy. That's not a thing, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.480 it's not well. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.040 He did say, like I'm really concerned that you have 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.600 through other girls here, and like I'm worried that you're 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.840 gonna break her heart, which is you know, classic needs 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.400 to say on a hometown. Yeah, you're right, It wasn't 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.720 very intense. I was completely overwhelmed by the amount of 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:18.159 people though, at this date and at let's SEEA's date, 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.880 particularly this date, like when Juliana was rambling off how 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:24.599 many people were going to be there. I would have 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.760 been so intimidated if I were Grant, because I would 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.720 like want to feel like I was having quality time 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.040 with the immediate family that needs to know me the most. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.039 And in this case, like I don't really think he 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.120 was gonna get like any really quality time or even 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:39.840 its just gonna be like. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.719 Hellos, see can I mean this isn't about me? 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:48.160 You would have felt more environment because well you were 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.400 the bachelor, because so maybe in this bachelor scenario, this 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:53.919 would actually make you feel more comfortable because you don't 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.599 have to have the spotlight on YouTube. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:56.240 Nuch, you don't. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:00.200 I mean cayleb Quinn's day I remember was incredible. Remember 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.760 where the hotel I stayed in, where we went, who 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.080 are family was, Her family was awesome. But there was 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.800 only a small group of us together all day and 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:10.800 it was a lot of pressure because you are spending 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.840 all day with the same people and you're in an 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.159 environment where you can't you can be yourself, but you 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.760 have to protect your you know, the conversations that are existing. 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:23.080 I think when there's a lot of people, you can 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.760 kind of let loose and let everybody else entertain themselves. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.760 It's like a party compared to a one on one. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.400 It's a group be compared to a one on one, okay, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.839 And so I think when it comes to the bachelor 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:39.119 world specifically, the more people the easier on the lead, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.320 and I think in this environment, Grant I don't know 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.840 if Grant was at that point. I can't speak for him, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:50.240 but it is easier to to not just be speaking 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:51.160 to the mom and dad all. 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.520 Day, okay. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.920 And I want to say that I did like the 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.200 activity portion of this date where they went to make 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.000 pizza and the guy truly eemed like authentic to knowing 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.960 Juliana's and knowing the family, and then they went to 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.039 the pastry shop, like it felt like something that we 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.720 would do, like at my grandparents' house in Northern Jersey. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.040 It felt very familiar and authentic. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.359 I am going to say something that will probably be 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.840 controversial to the listener, and it could be controversial to 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:26.240 anybody as the bachelor, there was an element at these 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:30.560 hometowns where you I specifically, I don't want to say 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.200 that everybody did this, but I specifically paid attention to 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:38.760 how people responded to the like the contestant that I 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.040 was visiting. So how would the pizza shop maker respond, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.440 Where would they bring me in their hometown and who 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.440 would know them there? And I think that a little 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.320 bit of that is because I'm from a small town, 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.400 so there's no place I go in WORSEU Indiana where 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.880 I don't know somebody working at the place that I 0:06:56.920 --> 0:07:01.360 would bring a date, right, And I'm hoping that person 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.960 either like gives me a hard time or they celebrate 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.039 me or whatever. But at least they know me and 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.200 they like feel comfortable with me, because what it said 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.640 to me was they've invested into their community and to 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.040 where they're from. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.280 Yeah, why why would this annoy anyone? 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:24.800 Because I think everybody else within this episode didn't have that. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:29.080 She's the only one. Oh, yes, it was like everybody 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.880 else felt very distant from the date that they were presenting. 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:36.800 Yes, I thought this was the weirdest Hometown's episode because 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.640 it felt like we were at nobody's hometown except for Joe's. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.920 That was why it would be controversial to listener, because 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.200 I know there's elements that came into play to cause 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.520 that to be the case, and those elements I don't think, 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.160 and rightfully so, we don't understand any of them, Like 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.960 we don't know the stories behind like why Zoe's like 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.800 hometown was the way it was. We know bits and pieces, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.080 we just don't know the story. And that's fine. I'm 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.200 not mad about that. That's that's her prerogative, that's her 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:05.080 personal life. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:05.920 That's cool. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.960 But it felt like this was the only real hometown 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.160 that we got, yes to the point where it was like, 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.440 oh my gosh, pore Grant. He had to go all 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.840 over the country and like he didn't really end up 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.600 having a hometown date with any of these girls except 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.440 for Juliana. He ended up just meeting the family or 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.360 you know, meeting the closest people to them. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.480 They could have flown as well. They wouldn't have flown 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.360 those people out. They would have obviously fen were in there. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.760 But you know what I mean, Like the location didn't 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.000 seem to play at all. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.440 There were locations never made since me now freaking Wyoming. 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.680 My family's had a ranch in Wyoming for my whole life. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:39.480 You want to know how many airports there are to 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.800 fly into in Wyoming? Not many, Like there's not He 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:45.679 had to take a dry I don't know where he 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.520 was coming from. He might have fallen into the Denver 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:52.360 for that day and drove six hours. Maybe he got 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:53.319 some private planes. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:53.880 I don't know. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:58.000 But anyways, my I guess the controversial statement I was 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.079 trying to make is this out of all of them, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.240 felt like the only hometown that actually existed. All those 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.600 others could have existed anywhere in the country. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.120 Yeah, I agree with you. I'm not going to heat 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:09.600 or anything. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.600 I can tell you that, Like in my hometown, I 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.520 could walk into like the deli and they're not. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:16.320 Going to know my name. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:18.640 It doesn't mean that I'm not like, I don't feel 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.480 like I'm from there. It's just different towns call for, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.120 you know, different relationships. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.120 But you were made for a smaller town, all right. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.760 So Juliana's day comes off and it's like, hey, she 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.600 should be here next week. No questions to me. Now, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.280 was it the best hometown? Did it feel like everything 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.480 happened how we thought it would know? But it was 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.280 a great hometown. And I left that date feeling like, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.120 she's going to be here next week no matter what. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.080 So let's see who's not going to be here. 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.520 She's going to be in the finale. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.160 I just feel like there's a huge discrepancy in this 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:55.160 episode between the two in the finale presumably and the 0:09:55.200 --> 0:10:00.560 two that are not. And I just I still feel 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.440 like I know that they were saying basically like I 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:04.440 am falling in love with you I. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.760 Don't feel a huge connection between the two of them. 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:15.160 Uh, it's I mean, if we're comparing based on this season, Ashley, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:17.000 it's it's up. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.640 There in terms of connections. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.720 Well, yeah, I know, I'm realizing that that is the 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.320 problem to this season. I really don't feel a lot 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.880 of intense depth. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.400 I have a theory and I'll share at the end. Okay, 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.000 I know who's going to be there in the final two. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:39.400 Yeah, I feel like anybody watching knows. Okay, okay, okay, fair. 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.520 Then let's take what we have is the preview, and 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.800 obviously we know that Grant is so conflicted at the end. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:48.920 So if you and I are sitting here saying we 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.800 know who the final two are going to be, then obviously, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.920 at the very end of this the final two that 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.920 we believe is going to be there, and Mark gonna say, man, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.640 it will say it's the very end of this episode 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.680 he is so confus that he's falling in love with 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:02.280 both of them. 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:04.080 No, I'm very confused by this. 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.760 Okay, we'll talk about it later. Let's move on to 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.840 Zoe's hometown. Zoe was in both of our final fours. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.000 We've had belief in her since the very beginning. She's 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:17.280 the only reason we can claim that our really baseless, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:21.400 assumption based show that happens at the beginning of every 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.640 season has any merit because we both said Zoe will 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:26.560 be there in the final four. 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:33.600 We're right day, we're experts, we're right now. Zoe. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.800 To me and Grant, they I'm shocked that she is 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.360 still here after this episode. It feels like they missed 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:49.120 the mark on every level when it comes to communication, intimacy, physicality, community, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.520 Like it feels like they have no relationship to me. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.480 Absolut freaking lutely bad. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:56.280 Am I wrong? 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:08.880 That's exactly how I feel, Ashley. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.440 I'm glad that you feel this way with me, because 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.280 I watch this again. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:14.520 You watched it twice. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:16.800 No, I've watched the whole No, I say, I'm watching 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.760 the whole season, and I watched this episode because there's 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.480 been this like character arc of Zoe that's untraditional to 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.120 any other story that ever exists in the world. Right 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.079 we have She's controversial, we feel like she's gonna be 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.600 a villain, and then she's lovable, and then she has 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.520 this connection with Grant and now she's like so we're 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.760 coming into this episode with this connection with Grant, and 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.960 we're loving on Zoe and we're like, we're so happy 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.480 she's here. So I'm waiting for that kind of pinnacle 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.760 moment for us to go of course, she's still here, 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.520 Like there's no question she should still be here. And 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.040 I watch this episode and I know her scenario is 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.600 different because of her, like what's going on with her 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.120 and her family right now and so many things we 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.920 don't know, but yet we're kind of reading through the 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.040 lines when we're knowing that there's some type of family 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.800 issue where her adopted family isn't gonna be there, and 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.120 that's great, that's fine, we understand that. So we're like, Okay, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.840 we're gonna still focus on Grant and Zoe. And I 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:16.400 watched this Ashley and I watched this whole day, and 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:18.920 I'm like, they don't have anything. 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.199 No, there's nothing there. And the fact that she chose 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:22.920 to do. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:27.920 The whole like model shoot with the bride stuff we 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.760 had like a wedding shoot, Oh my gosh, and for 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.280 her to be so little chemistry during that was just like, 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.640 this is so awkward. And I bet you it was 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.600 even more awkward in real life because we know how 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.040 the show can take like a fine moment and make 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.920 it look really romantic. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:46.719 Put some music behind it. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.239 They couldn't even make this look natural. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.520 It was tough well and even some of the words 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.640 she was saying to her sister, She said, what I 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.360 love about Grant is he like, you know, I'm a 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.360 hard working woman. 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:00.000 Great. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:05.760 I celebrate that you are a strong, hard working woman. Okay, 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.400 that's the baseline. She says. He likes the creative side 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.360 of me, and I think he likes the model side 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.360 of me. He'll take it all like why are they 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.319 two different things? You're one human? Like why do those 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.319 have to be separated? 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:18.200 Zoe? 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:19.800 Like, you were. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.800 Both and that is beautiful and that is incredible and 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.080 that is such a spectacular thing for you to have, 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.080 is to be beautiful and creative and to be all 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.480 these things at once. But it's like, when you say that, 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.480 it makes me think that you're asking this dude to 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.000 love two different people, and I think you're two different people. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.320 I didn't pick up on that, but I did pick 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.880 up on her sister being like, so, like, how do 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:42.720 you feel about him? 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.520 You know, like are you falling in love with him? 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.240 And she was like, I like him yeah, something along 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.240 those lines, and I'm like, okay, like, why is going on? 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.880 Just because you're both too hot people doesn't make this work. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:53.960 It's not. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.040 It feels like two hot people trying to make it work. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:59.120 I'm shocked she didn't go home. When I said the beginning, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:14:59.920 this is the most shocked. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:03.680 Really this, I was like, what is he talking about? 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.360 She didn't go home. I thought for sure she would go. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.360 Home, really, even after seeing Dinas Because after seeing Dina's 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.360 I was like, uh, they're tied. If not, Dina's was. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.680 Worse okay, because there was. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:21.600 Zero chemistry there too, and you could tell that he 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.520 was just like I have to like talk to your 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.520 friends and even pretend like this is like something that 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.640 might go anywhere. He was super thrown off at the 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.560 family not being around, which I can get. Again, it's 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.200 kind of like, why did you send me here to 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.560 just go to a pumpkin patch with your friends? 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:41.360 Please come to la I don't know. 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:43.280 But let's let's talk. 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:48.840 About Latia's date first. Yeah, it's Wyoming, which again we 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:50.840 get a brief and synopsis. 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:57.280 Let's be clear though, it's amazing place, so windy, so beautiful, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:15:57.960 and what with. 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:02.640 Becca Tilley once to the tea pause ts yees yea 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:03.600 different part. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.480 Of the state, but yes, very beautiful place. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:10.240 Yeah, so they like like to meet here at We 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.800 don't know if it's this cabin or if they rented out. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.320 This felt like it could have been like a rented 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:14.880 out cabin. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.760 It was so extraordinary and if not, then it's like, okay, 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:19.840 so what's your family. 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.760 Do you have this random, huge ass mansion? 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.800 And you know, because she's talking about her grandma a 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.560 lot who her grandma couldn't be there obviously. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.240 Well, her grandma has passed. 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.680 Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, I'm putting it. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.720 Okay, Well that's what they kept saying, is you couldn't 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:38.320 be there. 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:39.360 Yeah. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.800 For clearing that up, okay's gracious. 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.720 So maybe the grandpa, you know, he's like he looks 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:50.840 like a oil. 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:51.480 It's oil. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.720 I was gonna say oil, but I was like, am 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.840 I being weird for this. 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:57.320 Oil Ashley? 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:58.000 Okay? 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.720 I was like, this feels like what was the show 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:06.880 with with Larry Hagman Dallas Dallas to Move. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:07.200 Yeah. 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.639 Yeah, No, Like at some point this let's assume for 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.439 the sake of this conversation that this is their family ranch, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.280 like this is their this is their fandy second home 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.280 where they can go visit and have fun at and 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:25.320 ride horses. Okay, a beautiful place, absolutely gorgeous. I love 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.560 seeing because I love Wyoming, I do. I think it's 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.000 one of the coolest places on earth. That's unlike that 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.600 nobody lives at And how do. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:34.040 I see this? 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.560 Is it just mired the like did she shine this episode? 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.320 Like she just looked like she was glowing off the screen. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.520 Okay, let me tell you this. I think she's gotten 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:46.359 prettier with each episode. The more you get to know 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:47.720 our personality. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.760 Is that it is that what I'm feeling. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.879 Okayah, I feel like I'm getting You know how when 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:54.760 you're attracted to someone and you get to know them, 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.800 their personality rocks. Yeah, they get more attractive to you. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:01.800 This even applies to like front chips. You're like, you see, 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.360 somebody's soul obviously is beautiful. They come across as more 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.560 attractable on the outside. And that to her. That's happening 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:09.200 to me with her. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:14.040 Okay, I felt it this episode. I've always thought she 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.800 was a front runner, at least since we started watching 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.439 the show, But this episode, I was like there's no question, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.040 Like there's something about her this episode that is jumping 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.560 off the screen at me where it's like there's no 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:26.840 like he has to. 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:27.840 Fall in love with this girl. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:33.480 Yeah, yeah, it's it's an incredible. 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.960 Dynamic between the two of them. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:39.480 There is still the element of faith, and so that's 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.119 the big storyline going into this. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:42.360 And he makes one. 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:48.560 Of the most obscure statements at the beginning of this 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.200 date that I've ever heard. 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.399 Okay, he said that he was scared, and that she 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.680 said he said, I'm not scared, and then it was 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:58.199 like blah blah, blah blah, and then at the end 0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:58.640 he was like. 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:02.040 Well I'm scared. It was like the biggest one. 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:09.840 He says this statement, I'm still someone who sometimes likes 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:10.920