WEBVTT - Blood Ties | Ashley's Story 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.760 Topics featured in this episode may be disturbing to some listeners. 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.240 Please take care while listening. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.719 I got out and like stood by my car, and 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.360 I put my hands together like in prayer emotion. I 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.200 just said, God, please be with me. And I opened 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:23.680 my eyes and I walked towards him and I yelled 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:28.920 at him. I yelled so loud, I said, how fucking 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.839 dare you. That's when he put his head down and 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:34.040 he wouldn't look at me after that. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:52.160 I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal. Episode two, Blood Ties, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.160 Ashley Lytton discovered her husband was in possession of child pornography. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.480 With the help of her sister Anna, Ashley contacted law 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:10.320 enforcement and reported him on September twenty ninth, twenty twenty one. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.720 It was how did I get here? Moment? For Ashley. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.080 Her life imploded. Her sense of safety for her children 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:23.320 was gone. Like any of us in the wake of betrayal, grief, destruction, 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.720 and heartbreak, you revisit everything. 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.520 I was going through some of our old photos and videos. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.920 I came across one specific one where he was teaching 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:41.520 her to ride the bike. As she was driving away 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:45.480 for the first time. She was yelling back like daddy look, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.280 Daddy look, and he's kind of cheering her on. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.400 Jason's father shared the love of football with him, That's 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.160 how they bonded, and Jason wanted to have that with 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.880 his kids. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.720 And has been a Vikings fan his whole life. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.040 The story that I got was his father had gotten 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.840 each one of his brothers a stuffed animal, and Jason 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.240 happened to get the Minnesota Viking stuffed animal, and his 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.160 brothers got two other teams, so their whole lives they 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.000 cheered for those teams. I had been at work and 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.600 he'd been home with the kids and the Vikings were 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.920 going to play, and he had like a shrine of 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.360 Viking stuff all over my living room. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:30.440 I mean he had. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:34.440 Jerseys laid out, he had stuffed animals, he had other memorabilia. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.800 Aveay was wearing one of his huge Vikings jerseys, and 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:39.560 I was. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.440 Like, Uh, what are you doing. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.040 From that moment on, every time the Vikings played, everyone 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:48.519 was decked down Vikings gear. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.160 That was our tradition. 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.120 And he wasn't just a fan. Jason coached in the 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.200 little league football community Julio. Heis lives in Ashley's neighborhood 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.120 was his son's coach. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:07.160 Jason actually asked me to assist coaching. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.639 We just click football brought us clothes. 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:17.880 He is very passionate and he actually really cared about 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:18.320 the kids. 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:23.000 Like they showed one how much he cared. It was great. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.000 Jason also played. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.040 Played flag football and when all the games. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:28.480 Of course, my son played with him too. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.639 Great athletic coach well. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.000 Jason was known for his love of football. Friends also 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.600 found him hilarious. Ashley's friend Emmy. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.680 He was one of the funniest people I have ever met. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:46.640 You put Jason and my husband together and had a 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.760 couple of cocktails in there. They would sing into a 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.440 wooden spoon as they ran around the canche. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.000 They were just always so goofy. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.040 And he was kind of that guy pair with my 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.520 husband that you know, reminded me that there are good men. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:05.680 They're still out there. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.600 Ashley had taken on adult responsibilities since she was a kid, 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.000 taking care of her mother raising her siblings an early motherhood. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.279 She was ready for a partner, someone to help carry 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:18.680 the weight. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.320 I think because I had spent so much my life 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.320 being the person that had to be in charge and 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.720 make the decisions. When Jason came along, I referred to 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.880 him with everything everything I did. Even when we bought 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:35.680 our house, I was like, listen, I don't give a 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.279 shit what house we buy at this point, pick house. 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:39.400 Let's do it. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.080 I don't care, like you know best, so you do it. 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:44.080 It doesn't matter to me. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.839 In marriage, Ashley finally felt part of a team. She 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.480 loved it, sharing coffee with Jason in the morning, family 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.960 dinners in the evenings, when sports weren't taking the kids 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.040 in three different directions. But after eight years of being married, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.880 their family dynamic started to change. 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.800 From the outside looking in, we just had this picture 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:12.600 perfect life, beautiful home, wonderful kids. Both of us have careers, 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:16.320 we're both like semi young and in shape. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.719 But the reality was very different. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.320 Two years before COVID, Jason stopped interacting with us. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.080 Ashley's stepmother, Kathy TRIHILLO. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.200 He wasn't going to work and she was having money struggles, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.480 and they were kind of like living two separate lives. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.440 But you don't know what goes on in people's four walls. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.640 So you're like, you know, try and just to be 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:42.760 supportive to Ashley. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.080 That's all, you know. We tried to do is be support. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.280 And she wanted to hang in there and keep it going. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.159 Then we were going to try to stand behind her. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:56.080 Jason was a talented tradesman. When he showed up for work. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:02.240 Jason's former employe or Steve Iihausen. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.200 He liked to take a lot of time off and 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:09.279 he would say his children were sick or he had 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.280 to go to school for something like that, and so 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:16.719 he was using excuses that weren't true to take time 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.839 off and do something for himself. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:23.080 It was actually putting their mortgage in jeopardy. And now, 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.680 like in retrospect, I'm like, was he just staying home 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:28.960 and watching all of this stuff? 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.120 Just went work for a couple two, three weeks at 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.039 a time. And I'm sure it was not because he 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.560 didn't have any work. He just didn't want to go 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:40.000 to work. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.279 Jason also lost interest in spending time with friends and family. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.200 Ashley's family enjoyed Jason's company. She comes from a big 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:54.039 family with siblings, stepsiblings, nieces, and nephews. Any excuse was 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.720 a good one for a family party and John Ashley's 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.400 dad loved to host. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:06:58.960 Well. 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.240 He didn't come to our function, like, man, where's that 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:03.560 guy oh Man. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:03.919 You know. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:06.919 He would tell her family he needed to go to work. 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:12.080 He told work he was prioritizing family. Most times he 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:13.920 was doing neither have. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.360 They had traveled a lot for her competitive soccer league, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.360 and he wouldn't come with us. We went to California, 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.240 I went to Colorado, went to Las Vegas, went to 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.880 Saint George. We went to all these places and he 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:26.520 wouldn't go. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.560 So Ashley took the kids and left Jason behind. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.680 We used to do so much together. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.600 We did. We were active, we were outside, we were 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.440 at the movies. We're at the aquarium, we were in 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.600 the mountains, like we did things all the time with 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:42.120 the kids. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:44.280 Ashley was determined to keep going. 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.920 I was like, we can't wait for you to live 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:52.280 life with us. We can't not do anything. So I 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.320 just started leaving him. I'd like, if you want to 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.080 come along with us, we want you to come, but 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.640 we're not going to sit in this house and do 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:00.840 nothing anymore. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.000 Eventually, Jason stopped bringing anything to the table, so I asked. 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.640 Him for a divorce, and he told me that he'd 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:09.360 give me a divorce. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:11.600 It's like, praise the Lord. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.760 You know, we cannot live like this anymore. But then 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.760 COVID happened, and all of a sudden, my Jason came 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.440 back and he was being the man of the house 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:22.040 type of thing. 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.280 He was taking charge, like we need to make. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:25.880 A plan, and we need to get food, and we 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:27.760 need to make sure the kids are taken care of 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.880 and you know, make sure that we're safe. I was like, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:32.880 all right, So we just didn't talk about it again. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:36.280 But as lockdown orders were lifted and life returned to normal, 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.120 Jason withdrew again. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.280 He would kind of revert back to being a hermit. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:45.199 We walked on eggshells with him every single day. We 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.280 did everything we could to like not piss him off. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.920 We did everything we could to just not be noticed 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.200 by him. All of us did. But for the most part, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.640 Jason stayed in our bedroom. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.880 But he wasn't showing any interest in actually there. Jason 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.880 stopped showing any interest in sex or intimacy. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.720 I thought it was me, and I thought, I'm like, well, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:10.360 I had three kids, so it's like a hot dog 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.800 down hallway maybe, And so I was like, I'm not 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.360 going to do this to myself anymore. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.080 Ashley sought help from a therapist and she learned that 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.439 his behavior had nothing to do with her. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:25.040 I'd come to some self realization. I'm like, I am beautiful, 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:28.440 I'm a good mom, and I'm a good wife, and 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:35.040 this problem isn't me, it's him. At that point, I'd 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:39.760 kind of reinvested my time with God, and so I 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.640 was like, I made this covenant with my husband and 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.920 with God that I was going to love him through 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.520 sickness and health and he would never leave me. And 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.760 so I had decided that I wasn't going to get divorced. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.559 I was like, I'm going to love him harder, I'm 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.960 gonna love him more, I'm going to be there for him. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.559 I'm going to help him through this, and it's gonna 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.960 be okay. That's what I thought. I just thought he 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:12.240 was insanely depressed, and I wanted him to go see 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.960 a therapist. He went to his general family doctor. He's 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:22.680 diagnosed add He put him on adderall and I think prozac, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:24.800 and then like he thought he had it under control 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.040 because he's like, oh, I'm not going to take it 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.200 on the weekend, and that's why he was sluggish on 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:28.679 the weekend. 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:29.680 That's what he'd say. 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.720 It's not a good idea to take a medication vacation 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.559 when you're on prozac and adderall without a doctor's consultation. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.240 Jason continued to isolate himself and became hyper focused on 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:42.079 a new hobby. 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.400 I bought him a drawing table because he liked to draw. 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.600 He would lose himself for hours in a sketch pad. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.400 I don't remember why we had stopped by, but we 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.360 were outside and he was in the house and he said, 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:54.520 I'm getting into drawing. 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:55.000 Now, come in. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.400 I want to show you guys my drawings. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.640 I was like, go clean your back through, you know, 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.679 think what are you doing? Why are you sitting here drawing? 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:04.520 I was in my head. 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:05.640 I was like, what is he doing? 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.600 Anna thought his drawings were bizarre. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.480 He's showing me these drawings and I don't know if 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.800 he had drew them himself, where he outlined them from 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.280 a printed off image or something, but they were like 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:24.520 highly sexualized characters, very seductive clothing, huge boobs, all women. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.200 I just remember thinking like, what the fuck, what is 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.840 he doing? This is not normal to me, And I 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.840 remember telling Ashley, I'm like, you need to tell him 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.040 to stop showing people those. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:37.319 It's fucking weird. 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.880 He wasn't helped Ashley with anything. She came over here 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.840 and fixed her brakes, fix her tires, whatever was, you know, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.400 and he it was had some excuse. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:54.080 She worked over time, constantly, she changed jobs for a 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.760 better opportunity. She gave and cave and. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:58.320 Cave and gave. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:14.040 Okay, so I've read through the initial report. I was 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.280 hoping that maybe we could talk a little bit more 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.680 in depth how it all came about. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.520 On a day that felt completely surreal, Ashley Linton was 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.320 finally sitting at the Riverton police station. Her husband was 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:32.280 at his brother's house hoping to hear from her. It 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.440 was ten at night, but the officer in charge of 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:38.400 special Victims wanted to talk right away. He had worked 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.600 quickly at a secure search warrant an inventory what Jason 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:45.840 had in the hidden file. Now Ashley sat across from 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.880 the detective Jason Rue, in a small interview room. 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:50.800 I went through. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:58.440 I went through probably about photos in that account that 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:04.840 he told me about. I'm so disgusted this obviously serious stuff. 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.440 Not only doesn't have child pornography on this thing. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.719 But he's produced it. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.520 Basically, you're outside doing something with your plants, and he. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:17.640 Walks into. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.520 Yeah, I assume she had a white shirt on, and 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.920 so he's like, hey, where's your mom? And anytime she 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.360 would turn around, he's going up so you can actually 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:31.760 see her breasts of he sure multiple times, I'm so 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.720 worried about my daughter. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.400 There were videos from their family trip to Disney as well. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.520 It was the only trip Jason had taken with his 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:47.440 family in two years. Detective rou explains. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:52.200 The stepdaughter was getting out of the shower and told everyone, hey, 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.680 don't look, and Jason had set up his phone to 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.920 video record her coming out of the shower while she 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.000 had no clothes on, and then he proceeded to act 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.840 like he wasn't watching although he was recording her. 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:11.000 Legally, a Veo was Jason's stepdaughter, but he had raised 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.760 her since she was two years old. She called him dad. 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.000 Is there had porn issues that you're aware of? 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:20.760 Absolutely? 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.080 Our whole marriage has been flooded with it. It was 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:33.040 just always really awkward. I think we've had six, maybe 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.440 five times in two and a half years, and I'm 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.800 kind of like masturbating, like weird times, like with me 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.160 and my daughter, my eight year old, Like she's left 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.160 in our bed and he's like on the floor masturbating, 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.600 looking at his mom and I'm like, what the fuck 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.360 are you doing? Her family's here, like, what's wrong with you? 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:55.400 Ashley revealed other upsetting details about her marriage to Jason. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.360 He had an affair amon me when I was five 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:02.280 months hearty, right, young guest and the girl he had 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.640 a fair with. I think she was eighteen, but I 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.000 knew that she had just. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.480 Graduated, right she was. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.360 The was seven eight years ago. 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:11.880 Yeah, how'd you find out about that? 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.240 He left his phone one time at home like an idiot. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.560 Anyway, she'd texted him, I'm like, so I'm excited to 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.200 see you tonight, and he had come up with this huge, 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.120 elaborate story meany he's a talker, he could he do 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.120 you know that stupid saying he could sell eyes to 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:33.480 Eskimos that that's him and uh, Anyway, saw I called 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:37.360 her and I was like, do you know he's getting 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.320 ready to have a baby and we're married and have 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.120 two children, and she was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.640 The conversation turned to the messages Ashley had been receiving 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:46.240 from Jason. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.760 I understand you're upset right now and don't want to 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.200 see me I really want to talk to him, and 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.280 you're ready. I won't hassle you after this text message. 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.120 I'm sorry I've. 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.680 Created this problem for our family. I love you, ash 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.280 I'm so sorry. I know I need help and I'm 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.120 going to get it. I promise to work hard and 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.480 make sure you're undertaken care of. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.080 But Detective Roo was skeptical about the tax from Jason 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.280 concerning the images. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.600 In my opinion, it's someone who just got caught doing 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:17.080 something they know is not just wrong but illegal. Starts 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:21.600 going into manipulation, saying, you know, I'm sorry I did 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:26.720 this to our family. I'm a bad husband. Nothing about 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:30.680 the victim, nothing about the wife. It's all about I've 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.880 been caught now. I need to say sorry and try 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.720 to build this trust again. Later on, he says I 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.760 will get the help. I need to quit ignoring my 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.000 issues and so you know, he's throwing all these things 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.560 out like negotiation. I will do this and I need 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.840 to do this, and I'll do better if you don't 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.000 say anything and just mean you do it together. That's 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.480 how I read these sext messages. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.840 Once Ashley reported, the crime detective room moved quickly. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.680 We were able to get the correct paperwork to get 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.440 a warrant to get into those photos a couple hours 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:06.680 before he deleted. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.600 On them a. 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:09.359 Few hours later. 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:14.320 Yes, the police enlisted Ashley to help make the arrest. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.040 So basically, how it would be if we could get 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:18.960 him somewhere where our guys can just. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.400 Bring him into me here interview him here. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:25.919 I'd like to do it tonight, to be honest, I 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:26.680 just wondering if. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.800 There's maybe a way that we could get him do 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.520 that leave the house and meet. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.200 You somewhere and just kinda pick him up, etc. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.560 Rather do that and go on his brother's door. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.920 The Riverton police weren't keen to arrest Jason at another 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.640 police officer's house, and it's easy to see why there's 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.879 a firearm on the premises. It's complicated, but Detective Rue 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:53.000 was still irritated that Jason's brother didn't do the right thing. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.120 I don't care if your brother you're in law enforcement. 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.160 That is a no noe like he He could get 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:00.720 himself in some trou He. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:01.840 Should be their first brother. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:02.680 I'm cool with that. 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.480 But on the way here to talk to us about it, 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.680 you know, like you screwed up royally, and that's all 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.000 that was gonna be happening to you. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.880 The plan was to get Jason out of his brother's 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.639 house to a neutral meeting spot where he would believe 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.480 he could make his case one on one with Ashley. 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.320 I just told him, how about let's meet away from 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:25.080 the house that I'll have. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:29.520 The kids too, Okay, yeah, tell me twenty twenty five minutes. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.720 Ashley was setting him up to be arrested and I'm just. 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:34.320 Gonna wait here. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.479 Okay, Well, they do that, and then once you get 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:39.760 him to try to talk to him, see if he 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:40.680 wants to talk to her out. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.520 I tried to imagine what Ashley was thinking driving from 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.119 the Riverton Police station to the Walmart parking lot. It 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.639 must have been the strangest drive of her life. It 0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:01.040 was eleven thirty pm. 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:06.679 Jason pulls in and I could fill this like fire 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.280 burning inside of me, thinking that he had filmed up 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:17.359 my daughter's shirt and saw her bare breasts, our daughter's shirt. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.280 So I had this like flash. We're kind of parked where. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.880 People return their carts and there's like these big rocks. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.760 For a moment, she fantasized about vigilanti justice. 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.480 In my head, it played out like i'might grab a 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.680 rock and I'm gonna like smack him over the head 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.680 and then he's gonna pass out, and then I'm gonna 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.840 kick him really hard, and then I'm gonna, you know, 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:44.840 like all these terrible, violent things. 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:48.520 Ashley felt so sad for his victims. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.880 I wanted to like take his eyes away from him 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.680 so he can never look at my daughter again, look 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:59.320 at anybody's daughter again. All those little girls that I 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:04.640 saw in those phoo everything, I just it was so awful. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.040 And so when I got out, I didn't grab a rock, 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:13.560 thank god, but I just started hitting him and he 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.040 just let me and he was like, what are you doing, 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:19.520 ash what are you doing? And then the police pulled 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.800 up right after and say it took him into custody 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.760 right then, just like. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:32.320 That, it was done. He was on his way to 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:36.879 the police station. His work truck was still sitting in 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:37.600 the parking lot. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.920 You know, we're married, so this is my asset too, 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:43.919 so I should probably make sure that I don't just 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:47.640 leave it in the Walmart parking lot. But I didn't 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.199 have anyone to drive it anywhere for me, so I 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.760 called his brother. It's like twelve o'clock at night. At 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.320 this point he was sleeping and he I was like, 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.399 what did you do? What did you do? And I 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.040 was like, I did what you couldn't do. I did 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.400 what you were supposed to do that you didn't do. 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:14.480 His brother agreed to pick up Jason's truck. Finally, after 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:20.600 fourteen hours the hospital a police interview, the longest and 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.240 most awful day of Ashley's life had come to an end. 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.440 You have the writer in silent She didn't need to 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:37.159 say anything to me. 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.399 Anything you say Canada will be used against you in 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:41.119 the court. 0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:43.080 You have the right to have a. 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.840 Lawyer well being read his Miranda rights. Jason explained that 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.600 he'd never been arrested. He was polite. 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:51.960 Do you understand each of these rights? 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:53.639 I've explained I did, okay. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.240 Detective Rude tried to engage Jason in a conversation about 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:57.840 the charges. 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.159 Ashley contacted me as I cause, you guys have had 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:02.240 a pretty rough day today. 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.040 Yeah, okay, So. 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.320 That's some of the things that I was holding to 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:07.960