WEBVTT - Elisha Cuthbert

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<v Speaker 1>Cats buds. That's okayas no one here is.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of teen Beat. I'm Danielle Fischel,

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<v Speaker 2>host of not only this podcast, but of the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven Disney World Easter Parade. It was hot and

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<v Speaker 2>I wore a big hat, but now I wear many hats,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one has me sitting with interesting people who've

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<v Speaker 2>done interesting things every single week, tapping into their teenage

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<v Speaker 2>years to find the awkward and uncomfortable truths that connect

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<v Speaker 2>us as members of.

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<v Speaker 3>The human race.

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<v Speaker 2>Because even if you were on TV as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was exposing every moment of your puberty to

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<v Speaker 2>millions of viewers looking back as a way to learn

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<v Speaker 2>more about who we've become today.

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<v Speaker 3>I look at it this way. I gave you my childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time we hear yours. This week, I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>a pivotal piece of what I'm calling the Canadian invasion

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<v Speaker 2>of Y two K. Whether it was Ryan Gosling breaking

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<v Speaker 2>out from the Mickey Mouse Club, or Nellie Furtado flying

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<v Speaker 2>like a bird, Hayden Christiansen being cast as a young

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<v Speaker 2>Anakin skywalker, or Avril Levine wearing a tie over a

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<v Speaker 2>tank top. The Great North really was quite great, and

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<v Speaker 2>the all out attack also included a Calgary born, Montreal

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<v Speaker 2>raised actress who first found the spotlight as the young

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<v Speaker 2>co host of Popular Mechanics for Kids, arguably the oddest

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<v Speaker 2>magazine to ever become children's programming unless there was a

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<v Speaker 2>good Housekeeping for tweens show that never hit the States.

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<v Speaker 2>She would stay in Canada for her first major role

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<v Speaker 2>in Air Speed alongside Joe Montaigna, and then the Gemini

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<v Speaker 2>Award winning Lucky Girl, leading her to Los Angeles in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one, where her whole life changed when

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<v Speaker 2>she was cast as Kim Bauer, Keifer Sutherland's always in

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<v Speaker 2>peril daughter in the pop culture smash twenty four. She'd

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<v Speaker 2>also appear in classic movies like Old School and Love Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and then supply the Internet with thousands of beautiful gifts

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<v Speaker 2>from the movie The Girl next Door. But it's her

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<v Speaker 2>time on wildly underappreciated projects that interests me most, like

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<v Speaker 2>one of TV's funniest modern day sitcoms, Happy Endings, and

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<v Speaker 2>the two thousand and five MTV generation remake of House

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<v Speaker 2>of Wax, which was much better than it ever should

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<v Speaker 2>have been. Now she's returned to our screens after a

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<v Speaker 2>four year hiatus where she focused on being a mom,

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<v Speaker 2>but now appearing as Sue Flork in the romantic drama

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<v Speaker 2>series Every Year After, currently available to stream in full

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<v Speaker 2>on Prime Video and today. As fellow members of the

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<v Speaker 2>Maxim FHM Complex magazine generation of Young Hollywood, we will

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<v Speaker 2>sit together and chat about what it was like to

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<v Speaker 2>grow up, both on.

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<v Speaker 3>And off camera.

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<v Speaker 2>Because even though in twenty thirteen she was crowned TV's

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<v Speaker 2>most Beautiful Woman, I think deep down she must have

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<v Speaker 2>some teenage embarrassment to share. Welcome to teen Beat. The

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<v Speaker 2>most famous Canadian to never appear on an episode of

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<v Speaker 2>De Grassy High.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Alicia Cuthbert. Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my gosh, that kind of made me want

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<v Speaker 1>to cry. You did that better than anyone I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard before.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't have given my career any better words than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was that was the whole kit and kaboodle.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes it's just nice to hear all of

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<v Speaker 2>your incredible accomplishments.

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<v Speaker 3>Redbat to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting a little teary eyed. They're like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was also laughing. I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>all very accurate. And it's touching my heart. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for that.

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<v Speaker 2>You are so welcome. Thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me here on teen Beat. I know I joked about

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<v Speaker 2>it at the end of your intro, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>need to know. How did you not end up on Degrassi.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to say, I mean, until you

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<v Speaker 1>just uttered those words. I realized that now I have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a grudge, like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>happened that I didn't get to be on that show?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the director, Kit Hood, he he was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the bigger like creators of that show, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up he directed me in a film, a

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<v Speaker 1>feature film in Canada, So I guess I could say

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<v Speaker 1>I have a little connection, but not actually on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it was. It was a movie called Dancing

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<v Speaker 1>on the Moon. And you talk about embarrassment, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I had my first kiss on and it was on screen,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was so nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>And something else you can share. My first kiss was

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<v Speaker 2>on camera too. How old were you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to say? I was fourteen? Okay, yeah, weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't picture him. I'd have to go back and look,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't picture like I can't. I was so petrified

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<v Speaker 1>and I was so out of my element that, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you have like a trauma experience and

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<v Speaker 1>you like walk it out like did that even happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even know, but it's true, And I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was so what was your? Was yours? How scary?

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<v Speaker 1>It was so scary, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>It was scary.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a live studio audience because it was on

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<v Speaker 2>a sitcom, so it was you know, live studio audience

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<v Speaker 2>and my grandparents and my parents. It was like everybody's watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And we didn't kiss through the week, so we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>rehearse the kiss, so like the actual first time kiss

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<v Speaker 2>kiss was in front of you know, hundreds of people

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<v Speaker 2>and on camera.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Yeah. No, we had and our we

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<v Speaker 1>had a crew, and it was so crazy. They they

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<v Speaker 1>it just ended up that it was scheduled for the

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<v Speaker 1>last scene of the night. And so I had just

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<v Speaker 1>stew on it like all night, all day and all

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<v Speaker 1>night like leading up to it, and I just I

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<v Speaker 1>had put it in my head like one I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to mess it up because I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how to do this. So if like I

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<v Speaker 1>got to go in there, what if I like fumble

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<v Speaker 1>and like kisses nose or I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, like I own my hands off.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what if our teak link? I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to do, but it ended up

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<v Speaker 1>happening and it was fine, and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I made such a big deal of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I yeah, it was very scary, but yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny, like you put yourself in these situations

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<v Speaker 1>on set that you know because you're you're acting and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not real, but yet I mean, obviously you're a

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<v Speaker 1>part of it and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Your physical body bringing it to life. So like it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a fake kiss. There may not be like sexual

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<v Speaker 2>tension behind it, but there's it's really happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to even earlier because I

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<v Speaker 2>know you started modeling at just seven years old, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know how did that come about? Because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always interested in the moment you go from just

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<v Speaker 2>adorable child to adorable child model, Like were you discovered

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<v Speaker 2>in the Tim Horton's How did this?

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<v Speaker 3>How did it happen?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so funny. My mom and dad would

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, pestered a lot, like when we were

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<v Speaker 1>out together when I was like a real infant, even

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<v Speaker 1>like I think my mom has a story you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell, ask her, but like, I mean, there were

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<v Speaker 1>stories where people would come up and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should put her inmaddling, And it was just I

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<v Speaker 1>think fate was sort of aligning this path for me

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<v Speaker 1>way earlier than I even understood. And then at one

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<v Speaker 1>point a family friend was a casting director but and

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<v Speaker 1>she had mentioned to my parents about maybe having me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just go and do some modeling stuff. And

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<v Speaker 1>so they finally relented and they were just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's do this. And I mean, I was

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<v Speaker 1>so young, I didn't even and I just knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a good time. I didn't know that it

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<v Speaker 1>was like work per se. I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>really fun activity to do. But yeah, I would say that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I look back on it, and it is mysterious

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that like not my parents or anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else that was in my inner circle where ever pushing

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<v Speaker 1>it was just things were sort of coming into my

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<v Speaker 1>path in a way that I can't even explain. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one of those mysterious things that I that

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<v Speaker 1>I still question and I go, well, obviously I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the path that I should be on, and fate was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of leading me towards that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, that's another thing we share very similar

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<v Speaker 2>story paper.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel that was going to happen everywhere we went.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents were told, you should get her in you

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<v Speaker 2>need to get her in modeling, or you need to

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<v Speaker 2>get her in commercials.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was and my parents were.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, we don't know anything about this, like none, no

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<v Speaker 2>one in our family did it. They were like, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how to do it. And then when that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't working, a girl I went to school with got

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<v Speaker 2>an agent and she just told me about it and

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<v Speaker 2>I went home and then was like, I want an agent.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the universe was like, all right, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>try all these different avenues until you land down the

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<v Speaker 2>path that you're gonna land.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think too, I think our personalities. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not a shy child. I was always interested

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<v Speaker 1>in speaking to people, like you know, I with my son,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly like you know, we work on like when we're

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<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant, like I try to encourage him to

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<v Speaker 1>order what he wants and not you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>step over that. And but of course he's he's timid,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's shy, he's little, and but you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>do recall being younger and having this sort of fearless personality.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm more shy now in my adulthood

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<v Speaker 1>than I was then. But I I agreed, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember just being like ready to go to anybody

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, what's up totally? What's your story?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Tell me more? What's that? What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? How can I help you? Like? What what?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have the cheeseburger with the you know.

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<v Speaker 3>My son's like, yeah, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to work on that too, because they both

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<v Speaker 2>my kids have when they're when they warm up, both

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<v Speaker 2>of them turn on these big personalities, but there's always

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<v Speaker 2>that moment where they have to decide, am I going

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<v Speaker 2>to do a dation a little?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So, like it's probably a smart idea right before you

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<v Speaker 2>walk into a place, to be like, let's practice what

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to walk into a restaurant, you're going to order, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pretend I'm the waiter, you know, like even just

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<v Speaker 2>to give them a practice run at it right before

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<v Speaker 2>it happens. But that's really smart that you're encouraging that

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<v Speaker 2>because people's skills are a lost start.

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<v Speaker 1>For well, they're turning into a lot of star people

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<v Speaker 1>learning how to communicate. Is is dying out slowly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so strange to see. But yeah, we really do

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<v Speaker 1>try to encourage the kids to be as independent as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially in those scenarios because you know, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to speak up for themselves at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I may not always be right there at his

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<v Speaker 1>side or her side because we have an eight year

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<v Speaker 1>old daughter as well, where you know, I can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>always like they can always fall back on. I want

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<v Speaker 1>them to, you know, have the skills to at least

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<v Speaker 1>order a.

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<v Speaker 2>Meal exactly, at least be able to say you'd like

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<v Speaker 2>a cheeseburger. You know, you've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do that exactly. Let's chat popular mechanics for KOOO. You

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<v Speaker 2>posted seasons one through four and it was based on

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<v Speaker 2>a magazine and you covered topics like animals, the human body, amusement, parks, electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there one lesson or something you learned from the show,

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe a fact or a topic that is still

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<v Speaker 2>weirdly with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny, there are there's plenty, and it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>How like throughout my life they've helped me because it

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<v Speaker 1>was almost like another mini education for four years that

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<v Speaker 1>was so intense, and like, I find myself way more

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<v Speaker 1>handy than I ever should have been as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, I'll give you an example, like our

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<v Speaker 1>toilet was running the other day and I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think twice, just lifted the lid, knew the

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<v Speaker 1>mechanics of it. Oh, the chain's off, the chain back bank,

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<v Speaker 1>toilet's working again, And I'm like, wait, how did I

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<v Speaker 1>just do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be something to do with all of

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanical education I had on that show. But we

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<v Speaker 1>also got to do some really cool things that no

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<v Speaker 1>one else had ever gotten to do. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 1>one point we were on invited onto an aircraft carrier

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<v Speaker 1>for three days and I mean just getting all the

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<v Speaker 1>information on how the whole craft ran, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>to be catapulted off the craft. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there was no other television crew up until that point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't know about now, but up until

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<v Speaker 1>that point when we were there. It was the first

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<v Speaker 1>TV crew to ever be invited to film on an

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft carrier. So it was super top secret and it

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<v Speaker 1>was super yeah exclusive, and it was a really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I remember like getting to like walk away from

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<v Speaker 1>those experiences and be like, there's no one else on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet that other than a military trained personnel person

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<v Speaker 1>would if that's what you call them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's the official title.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that sounded official, but yeah, other than like people

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<v Speaker 1>that were trained to be there, you know. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I we are so special, We're so lucky, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you learn like little things like you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>flight takes off, like you go from zero to like

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<v Speaker 1>sixty and like two seconds to get catfolded off. That

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<v Speaker 1>it was like unbelievable. And yeah, so I mean in

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<v Speaker 1>the list goes on and on, I just yeah, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as like electricity goes and you know, hot air balloons.

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<v Speaker 1>We were up in hot air balloons. I rode an elephant.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I got like I always say to my husband,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, sometimes I feel like when I go back

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<v Speaker 1>and people ask me about the show, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that Doseci guy on the Comer. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>most fascinating because every you know, the best thing that

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<v Speaker 1>came away from it is that no matter where I

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<v Speaker 1>am at any dinner party or any sort of event,

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<v Speaker 1>I can I feel like I can converse with almost

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<v Speaker 1>anybody on most topics. So it's it was a really yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like really amazing experience to have.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great work experience, Like, yeah, it sounds so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get to spend any of your popular mechanics

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<v Speaker 2>money did you have? Like what was the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>you treated yourself to as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know, I my parents helped me save it

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<v Speaker 1>all and I used it to uh move to Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles and get an apartment and you know, try to

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<v Speaker 1>make it in Hollywood. That's really where all that money.

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<v Speaker 3>Went, yeah, which is an expensive endeavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. So I was like I was and

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<v Speaker 1>you probably know I was at the Oakwood apartment and

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<v Speaker 1>Boulevard right brothers. I was like feeling very uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>old Hollywood in that way, and it was it was

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, Jay Bearishall also moved in there. Another

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<v Speaker 1>actor we know, Andrew Walker, he's also a good actor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was there at that every like they're

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<v Speaker 1>like generational groups of actors that sort of find themselves

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<v Speaker 1>at or if it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't even exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know it's it's a real time capsule.

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<v Speaker 2>But we we we talk about it on Podmeats World

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<v Speaker 2>all the time because it seems as though everyone lived

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<v Speaker 2>there at some point. Everyone had their friends, their crew

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<v Speaker 2>that lived there.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. Yeah, it's it's quite it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. It was scary, but it was iconic, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was both of those things at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like in general the teenage years. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>scary but iconic exactly. One thing I have to ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a pretty famous story that Hillary Clinton saw

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<v Speaker 2>one of your reports and reached out to you to

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<v Speaker 2>meet at the White House. Yes, did you steal anything

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<v Speaker 2>to take it home? Don't worry, I think the statute

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<v Speaker 2>of limitations has passed.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm dying to know. Do you have any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of memento from your time at the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>I was too I was too afraid to steal anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I will say I will say that I got

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<v Speaker 1>to hold socks the cat. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember they had a black piece, yes, And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you're a cat person. But I remember seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the cat come down the famous corridor with the red

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<v Speaker 1>carpet and I was like, is that socks And they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yeah, do you want to hold them? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like yes. So I was like I got a chance to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hang out with the cat, which was great.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I ended up seeing Hillary Clinton again,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years after the fact, and I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to see her because she was speaking at

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<v Speaker 1>an event that I was at, and I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a chance that I could, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>run into her, I should keep this. I snagged up

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<v Speaker 1>photo that we took together from twenty years ago on

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<v Speaker 1>my phone and I ended up getting to speak with

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<v Speaker 1>her and I said, I have I met you at

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<v Speaker 1>the White House and it was so amazing and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure because she's met a million horns two people, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I showed her the photograph and she loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, look at my hair. I'm like, look

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<v Speaker 1>at my hair. We were just like laughing at the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that our hair was so hers hers was really short.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really cute. She said she looked great, but

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<v Speaker 1>we were totally laughing like old girlfriends about her hairstyles

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<v Speaker 1>and what we were wearing. She goes, I remember that

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<v Speaker 1>pink suit. I'm like, oh my gosh, I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why I was wearing a man's blazer, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that made me feel official. But we were

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<v Speaker 1>dying and it was so funny, and yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really cool thing. We got to go into all

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<v Speaker 1>the different rooms and that we met in the we

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<v Speaker 1>had a meeting in the mapping room together. And she

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<v Speaker 1>just she loved Popular Mechanics for Kids because at the

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<v Speaker 1>time she was involved in educational programming in the US

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<v Speaker 1>and she was trying to get every broadcast station to

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<v Speaker 1>at least have one or two educational programs for kids. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when she saw that Canada was doing Popular

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<v Speaker 1>Maccancs for kids, she ended up getting it syndicated through

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<v Speaker 1>the States. And yeah, she really liked it. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on a broader scale, what were you like as

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<v Speaker 2>a teen?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you boy crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Not? Really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that for you. I was. I wish

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I didn't waste so many years of my

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<v Speaker 2>life just being obsessed with boys. So I just, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you, Well, were you into.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was like an old soul.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought that it's funny because it's so the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of how my personal life turned out. But I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought that I wouldn't get married and that I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have kids. And I was like dad set on

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<v Speaker 1>being a professional and wanting to just be this like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Meryl Street. I was so driven and

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<v Speaker 1>I had like the horse blinders on and I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a boyfriend in high school that I had

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<v Speaker 1>for many years and I didn't really yeah, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have any others. And then it was

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<v Speaker 1>but I was really focused on my career and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't. And I was terrified about having children too.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like there's I was scared to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be pregnant. I was scared to think that I could

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<v Speaker 1>be like a great mom because my mom was so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wow, I'm such a working person.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how this fits into my life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you know, you meet the right person and

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<v Speaker 1>then those things become so clear, yeah, and so factual

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<v Speaker 1>and correct, and yeah, you can't imagine not doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So totally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that all shifted for me. But for many, many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many many years, it was just all work driven, which

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<v Speaker 1>is crazy, right, And yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do though.

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<v Speaker 2>I so appreciate that because it's the exact opposite of

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<v Speaker 2>how I was, and I wish I had been like

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<v Speaker 2>here I was from twelve to nineteen on boy meets World,

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<v Speaker 2>working and all I could think, thank you, And all

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 2>I could think was like, ugh, this career I have

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<v Speaker 2>is really taking me away from my purpose, which is

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<v Speaker 2>to get married and have children as soon as humanly possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think part of that was the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>my parents met at fifteen and got married at twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just had in my mind that like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course that's not at all how my

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<v Speaker 2>life turned out. But I spent all those years thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that I was failing because that wasn't what was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, like I just I'm so I loved

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that you spent all those years being like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna focus on me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a cold hearted No, you had a long

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 3>term boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that you didn't have love in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You just thought that was not what you were obsessed with.

0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 2>You were like, I'm gonna develop my sense of self,

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<v Speaker 2>which I wish I had done more of in my

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<v Speaker 2>umber years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny. I feel like what you experienced, though,

0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 1>is very natural and makes a whole lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just always conflicted as to why I didn't

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:33.240
<v Speaker 1>want any of those things, and I just thought, that's

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<v Speaker 1>so strange to like not be one of like my

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriends or even my sister. I remember my sister, like

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<v Speaker 1>when we used to play when we were kids, it

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.119
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, her dolls were her babies, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know, babies, ill not babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Ell.

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<v Speaker 2>No, did you go to traditional school while you were

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<v Speaker 2>working as a kid or did you were you always homeschooled?

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<v Speaker 1>I went to traditional school, although my experience was so

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous because I probably should have been homeschooled. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my last three four years of high

0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.240
<v Speaker 1>school were you know, in the trailer and with the

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<v Speaker 1>on set tutors and you know, the drill. I did

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<v Speaker 1>all my exams and yeah, like the trailers. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so weird. I mean I remember at one point, like,

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, your attendance report card at the end, and

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.359
<v Speaker 1>it was like, I think I missed like half the

0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>school year. But I will say when I was home

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I would get back from filming, it

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<v Speaker 1>would go I'd go, yeah, just like a normal kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd go straight to school and regular high school. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you know, it was weird. I I always

0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.080
<v Speaker 1>felt like high school and elementary at the time because

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I was filming, felt like such a burden, like it

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.199
<v Speaker 1>was in my way right. I was like, this is

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>like it was always aggravating because here I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to focus one hundred percent of my time and energy

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 1>into what I was filming, and then they'd have to

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.679
<v Speaker 1>like rip me off set for two hours to study

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.239
<v Speaker 1>math and English, and I'm like, I'm not gonna need

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>any of this. I want to learn English, and you know,

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I was like, I don't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>be in school. I have a job, Like, isn't the

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<v Speaker 1>whole point of going to school to train to do

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>something and I'm already doing it. So it always I

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>always had this like real bad tug of war with it,

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't wait for it to be over. And

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>then now again ironically I wish I would have had

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:39.840
<v Speaker 1>like the college university experience and knew what that felt like.

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I never got to really do any of that, And

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I think i'd be a way better student now too,

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>because I you know, as you get older, you your mind,

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 1>you're quenched to like learn and take in new things

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>and experiences. And I know what I'd want to study,

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:58.640
<v Speaker 1>and so it would be you know, at one point

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>during COVID, I almost try to do some online university classes,

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>and but then I was like, oh gosh, the kids,

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, nah, maybe not, I'll just keep

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>drinking my wine.

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 3>What would you want to study now?

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I would like history, art history. I think

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>like Cornell had some really cool like women leaders in

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 1>business nice. I don't know there was some other topics,

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think like there were so many. And

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I was extremely dyslexic as a child, okay, and which

0:24:33.880 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>most artists, I think most artistic people can be. It's

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>not uncommon. But I really struggled and then but now

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I've found a way to you know, ease my mind

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 1>work into it. I read so much now and so

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>studying and all that I think would come a lot

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>more naturally to me, so yeah, but I did end

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>up doing it.

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Very similarly, I also did not enjoy or appreciate school when.

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 3>I was I just it was. It felt annoying to me.

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 2>It was not my favorite thing. I just wanted to

0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 2>do the bare minimum I could do to still get by.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>But then I did go to college at twenty seven.

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 2>I studied, and I knew I wanted to study psychology,

0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:17.360
<v Speaker 2>and I graduated and I loved it. So I think

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>you're right that you now that you have a you know,

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a better understanding of what specifically you'd be looking for

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.560
<v Speaker 2>to you know, you could take any classes you want.

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 2>You're not limited by like getting a specific type of degree.

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 2>You'd probably be an A plus student and would love it.

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So I highly recommend just signing up even just one,

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 2>one little class, you know, class online.

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Just like yeah, I dip my toe and your toe in.

0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.199
<v Speaker 3>See what happens. If you end up loving it, you

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:47.840
<v Speaker 3>can always do.

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 1>More amazing.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 3>When you look back.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Would you consider yourself to be a cool kid because

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it seems like you'd be really cool.

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know about cool, but I would say that

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 4>I really got along with everybody I wasn't in like

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 4>some mean girl clique or.

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd say it was like very much Canadian in the

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 1>sense that I was super neutral.

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody's great.

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I Yeah, everyone's amazing. I would hang out with like

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the goth kids. I would talk to, like the athletes

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I liked, you know. But I did have my two

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>really best girlfriends. They were like my steadfast like we

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>were always thickest thieves together, Jan and Steph, and we

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>were just they were my people. And then but I

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>really got along with everybody and I so I would

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 1>say not so much popular, but I don't think anyone,

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think anyone had a problem with me, right,

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, you.

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 3>Weren't offensive to anyone.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I wasn't. But I wouldn't say I was

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like the cool kid. I just think, Yeah, like I said,

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, you know, neutral would be the best

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>way to describe it.

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Totally get that. Are you still friends with Jen and Steph?

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Steph? You know I haven't talked to Stephan a while,

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>but Jen, Yes, Jen, I I I'm still close with. Yeah.

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>It's uh that that those are friendships that you know,

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you go through life and they're just with you for

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>so many years. Of it, and they've you know, they've

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>been there through such interesting times too, and you're like

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 1>adolescents when you're becoming an adult and going through those,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 1>like you said, those awkward teenage years. You know, we

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>have so many funny stories and history together that you

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>just it's undeniable, like it no matter how much time

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>we have a part, or how much time goes without

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a phone call. I know that when I do speak

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to her, it's like we never left, and those are

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:05.719
<v Speaker 1>like so special and really, yeah, you kind of cherish

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.880
<v Speaker 1>those those friendships. It's because it's in your adulthood. It's

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>really hard to make friends like that because the history

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is just not there.

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Exactly yep, I know, And they're getting to know such

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 2>a I feel like friends you make now only get

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>to know one very specific briide of you, version of you. Yeah,

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 2>whereas you know, and this version of me is not

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 2>even the best version, not that it's a bad version,

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:33.320
<v Speaker 2>but like there was a time before children where I

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 2>was more fun and I'm just not as fun now,

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>And so no offense to the new friends I have,

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>but you're not getting the most fun me.

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 3>You're getting a very kind of structured now.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>When we want to be like the fun version of ourselves.

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>We pay for it totally, like there's no like I

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>remember after having our first I had I forget. It

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't know what we were doing, but

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>we had a night out and my parents were watching

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 1>our daughter and we got home at like, I don't know,

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>twelve thirty and I certainly had too much wine or

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, and I just wanted to, like, you know,

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>treat myself. I had finally finished breastfeeding. I was like, oo,

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>time to go. And that was the night my daughter

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>decided in the middle of the night to have a

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>flu throwing up. My head was pounding. It was like

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>they know they can sniff out when you're trying to

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>enjoy yourself exactly, you're just a little naughty. They just

0:29:27.720 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>know when you want to be a little naughty.

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Totally. They're like, are you having fun without it?

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>They're like, I'm gonna decide to get blue and you're

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>like really, or my teeths are going to start coming

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>in and I'm going to have a fever. Thank you.

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>It's always the way.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh they wait, They wait until you're in the worst

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>position ever.

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>So I want to go back to when you moved

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 2>out to Hollywood, which I think was two thousand and one,

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 2>you were not even twenty one. Two thousand, okay, so

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>two thousand, you're not even twenty one years old. No,

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 2>did you come out by yourself? Were you super nervous?

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you all like, did you know people?

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Now I didn't any This is a funny story actually,

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't know anyone. Like I said, I had

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a place at the Oakward Apartments, and I I'm not

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>even kidding you. When I landed, I get to the

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>apartment and I get through the door and I'm like, okay,

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to like set up all my stuff. And

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>really the only possessions that I had were like my clothing,

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>my toiletries, and like twelve of my favorite DVDs. Because

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>now we're talking. Wait, all these people kids listening to this,

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>They're like, it's a DVD. Yes, I had DVDs, my

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>favorite DVDs, and I opened my suitcase and they're all gone.

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So from the store loved, Yeah, from the time I

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>left Canada to the time I got someone you know,

0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>in transit ended up opening my suitcase and stealing all

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>my DVDs. So all I had was clothing and toils.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you I wasn't afraid to be

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>in LA. I was excited. I was really ready to

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like do everything I could to make it and to

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>hopefully get a job there. But what I will say

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>is that the one thing I wasn't expecting was like

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the loneliness. And I think, you know, not having DVDs

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't help.

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Nothing to watch.

0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was that was like my fallback of

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>like I know it when I'm not like reading scripts

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and going to auditions.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Mom's asked my favorite movies. Yeah, didn't even have that.

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was my first experience away. And you

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>know how hard it is in LA to like meet people,

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>You're either in your car. I'm sure your guests have

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.680
<v Speaker 1>said this. It's like LA is not a very easy

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>place to just socialize. When you're in New York. You

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>walk down the street, there's bodies, there's people everywhere. Yes,

0:31:56.520 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>LA doesn't have that culture. So I just spent a

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of time by myself for a good I want

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>to say, like gear, Yeah, pretty secluded and that was

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>there were Yeah, there were moments where I just I

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to give up. I didn't It didn't propel

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>me to like want to leave or give up on it.

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>It was, but it was just a feeling that I

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 1>had to like settle into my self and my loneeness

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and my comfortable just being comfortable with being by myself and.

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Being just with me, and such a good lesson.

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's really interesting to confront because when you when

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you grow up, you've got your siblings, and if you

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have your siblings, you have your cousins, or you

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>have your parents are always there. You have your network

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>of friends that you go to school and see every day,

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and then you're just like I was just picked right

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>up out of that whole situation and then just pluck

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>plunked myself down into an apartment with zero nothing, and

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I went, whooh, you know, and I didn't have a boyfriend.

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have It wasn't like I was like having

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>like phone conversations with a long distance board. I really

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.479
<v Speaker 1>was very very alone. But it helped me focus on

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the goals, which were, you know, getting out there and

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>succeeding and whatnot. So it wasn't totally bad, but wow,

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that was an interesting time.

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>So when in that process after moving to LA did

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>you read for twenty four.

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Six months into that, Wow, six months into that, I

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>ended up.

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>I had it.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't do these things anymore, but or at least

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they do unless they're bringing them back

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you can tell me. But I had a

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>network deal, like an exclusive network deal with Fox when

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I got there, so I was only allowed to audition

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>for Fox shows pilots, Okay, that didn't cross over into

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the feature side of things, but it was exclusive for television,

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>so my auditioning was Back then, there was a ton

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>of stuff for men of every network, but you know,

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>Fox definitely had a lot of stuff going on. So

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like I was lacking in anything as far

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>as like auditions go, but I was only auditioning for them,

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and I got close to a couple of things, and

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>then twenty four was but I was getting dangerously close

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>to like the end of my stay, okay, and I

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>remember being like, I don't know if this is going

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to work out, I'm gonna have to go back to Canada,

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to go to college or you know.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.959
<v Speaker 1>I just I wasn't sure what was going to happen,

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and I was really nervous about it. All, and I

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting the twenty four pilot script, and it

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>was my last audition before I was the deal was

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be up and I was going to be

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>heading back, so there was a lot on it. But

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I also thought, you know, I took a crack at it,

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:44.759
<v Speaker 1>and maybe if I can go back and work in

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Canada and save up some more money, I'll have enough

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:50.879
<v Speaker 1>to keep going and come back. But then I went

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 1>in and auditioned and I didn't hear anything for like

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>a week, and then I got a call saying, oh,

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>they want to read you again, and then they want

0:34:58.080 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to read you again, and then so it was like

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>three four times I went in and then and then

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a screen test with Kiefer and it was

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.240
<v Speaker 1>like me and another girl, and I just thought, okay,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>let's see what happens. And I just gave it my all.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>And I thought, you know, I'm not gonna worry about it.

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put stress on myself. I'm just gonna go. Really,

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be really prepared ready to go. And I

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>went in and then I was driving driving home and

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, well, I guess this is it.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And then as soon as I got into the apartment,

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I had a voicemail and it was my agent going

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>turn back around. They want to do a wardrobe fitting.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>You're filming on Monday.

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god. So I called my

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 1>parents and I was like, I guess I'm not coming

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>home on Wednesday. Wow.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Literally the lat like days away from you going home.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I mean from the time the

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.879
<v Speaker 1>audition's process started with twenty four but by the time

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I ended up getting it, I was literally three days

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>away from that was a Friday. They called me and

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>they were like, you got it. It's good, You're good,

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm You're gonna film on Monday, and I was

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>supposed to my flight home to cam it was on

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>the Wednesday, So I was cuttings. Yeah.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think they do that anymore, those exclusive

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 2>audition deals.

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, because I think the landscape is

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>so different now and we have so many streamings. Yeah,

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>it's so And even like the auditioning process, I don't

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't even I went into I don't know if

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>you've been in one recently, but I went into one

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>audition like physically went in And now because we now

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>we put ourselves on like if something comes up and

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they need a tape, you do it yourself. Now because

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of after COVID, everything has changed. And but I did

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>get a call for a show recently, like I think

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>five months ago or something, and they were like, oh, no,

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.920
<v Speaker 1>they're they're seeing people in person. And I went oh,

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, that's fine, and so I

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>prep it and I do everything, and then I got

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>in there and there was like all the producers and

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>then the camera. It had been so long, and I

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>just I mean, I've been doing you You've been doing this.

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for decades, two decades, and I'm like,

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.439
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, I reverted back to like it's

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>eleven years old. And I was like and I couldn't

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>even speak, and I was like and I said, to know,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, I have to start again. I'm like, yeah,

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, my hands are shaked. I'm like, why am

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I shaking? This is very weird.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I have not been in an audition room in a

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>very long time. But I did have my first like

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 2>in person meeting, just you know, a non zoom meeting,

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 2>and it was it was the same thing. I was like,

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.879
<v Speaker 2>you can see the lower half of my body. I'm

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>not used to that. I like, I don't know what

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>to do with my hands, And when there is a silence,

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I had to immediately fill it.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:38.880
<v Speaker 3>It was so it was so weird. I was like,

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to have meetings in person anymore.

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it was so funny because I had this

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like outer body experience, and that's sort of what like

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>stumped me a little bit because as soon as we

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 1>started getting into the scene, I like left my body

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and I started seeing myself, like you said, trying to

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>fill the space. And I was like rushing through this

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>dialogue and I was like, this is not even how

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I act. Like I don't even understand like what this

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>performance is that I'm trying to pull off. But I

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>was like I had to halt it. I was like,

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.919
<v Speaker 1>oh no, no, I was just like this is so weird.

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, let me start again. I'm going to take a breath.

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's just like another byproduct of that

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>COVID experience in that we've now all had to sort

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of find ways to do what we do away from

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.440
<v Speaker 1>human beings and then to get myself into a room

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>which used to be so normal to me feels so

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>foreign because we're just so not used to the process

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 1>with other human beings around, and that human connection it

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>changed the energy within me in such a way that

0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like taken aback and I thought, oh, I

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>got to work on that, because that's not me and

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>nor was it ever my experience before that. So I

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 1>just got so used to sort of, you know, curating

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>my own stuff, editing my own tapes, you know, doing

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>all those things. So it was really an eye opener.

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny, I don't you know. We just did

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>shot this show in Vancouver, and I will say that

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel any different, and filming didn't feel different, and

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>if anything, that's like my happy place. Yeah, but you know,

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>those audition spaces are very awkward because it's just a

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>weird room, an office. It's it's they're not they're not

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>like the real deal.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.439
<v Speaker 3>YEP, I totally know exactly what you mean.

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 2>It feels very and also if you are very performative,

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>you have you are literally there to perform, and yet

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you also are supposed to be based in reality and grounded,

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 2>and so there's a there's like a real you where

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 2>you talk for a little bit first and then you

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>have to.

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Do the performative you.

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 1>For you know, it was so funny. We didn't even talk.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>It was like okay, go and I was like, oh, oh,

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't even get to like no, like, how's the

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>weather today?

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 1>No? Nothing? No?

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:56.359
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 2>I know that when I watched TV, because you know,

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 2>we grew up in the business, I'm always wondering what

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 2>was the shoot like, And when watching twenty four I

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:25.720
<v Speaker 2>remember constantly thinking, this seems very challenging. I am guessing

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of middle of the night shoots,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 2>action scenes with stunts, intense continuity.

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of running, too much running. If

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>you ask me what was shooting that show.

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Like very intense. You nailed all the major points of

0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>that experience. I would say continuity for sure. But we

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>had great continuity people, so that helped. I don't know

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>if you've ever been like on a quick film where

0:40:55.520 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you're like also having to focus on continuity. It's really difficult.

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:01.160
<v Speaker 3>It is very difficult.

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, it's not great, but no, on that show,

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they it was it was like a well oiled machine.

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I will say so, I really only had to like

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>dial in and focus on what I needed to do,

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>but it was my stuff was very intense and trying

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to not make that character Kim Bauer feel like, you know,

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a burden in a way, you know, and and bring

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>as much realism to the ridiculous scenarios that she was

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>involved in. And I, you know, it's so funny. I

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of young actresses that I know now

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that are in that stage of their career where, you know,

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you hit an age where you're too young to do

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>any of the younger stuff, but you're not old enough

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>to play you know, the wife, the you know or

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the love interests, and you end up slotting yourself into

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the daughter role. Like at some point, if you're starting

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>off as a child actor, you're gonna you're gonna end

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>up being the daughter role. Yep, maybe even more than once.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 1>And the daughter role is really challenging because the daughter

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.479
<v Speaker 1>role is a role that I can't really die because

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:10.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's too sacred. But at the same time, they

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 1>have to write you in and find ways to keep

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.960
<v Speaker 1>your relevant. And you see that with a lot of

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>different shows. Although Landman is doing a great job with

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, Ali latter's playing the amazing mom and her daughter,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the their writing is becoming really interesting.

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 1>But for a long time, I think that daughter role

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>always felt like the Kim Bauer. I was like, I

0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>was like the epitome of the daughter role, right right,

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a stereotypical daughter role. But yeah, it was. It

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 1>was intense. It was a lot of fun though. But

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we did a lot of night shoots. We I remember,

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>I think for like, I don't know what it was

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>five months out of the year. I was sleeping during

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the day, work being during the night. Yeah, it was

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:50.959
<v Speaker 3>Did you like being an action star?

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I did? Actually, I loved it. Yeah. I feel like

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>House of Wax. I got to do a bunch of

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>action too towards the end of the film, which is

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>I got to pull my experience from twenty four. Yeah.

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Action is really is great. I love it.

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this era we grew up

0:43:08.840 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 2>into of the men's magazine. Oh yeah, every I mean

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the teen idol publication transformed into basically bikini photoshoots with

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 2>matchups between us about who's hotter, which is super cool, brutal.

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Did that kind of attention make you uncomfortable at the

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>time or did you just embrace it?

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I think I was pretty uncomfortable.

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I never really understood it, and I also knew

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that it was a beast of a thing that was

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>that was undeniable and unavoidable, correct, right, Like, I don't

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>think there was a time or space where you felt

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>like you could go to your publicism and be like,

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>absolutely not. I mean no, the viewership, the amount of

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>people that tuned into that kind of stuff, and the

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 1>volume in which the magazines were selling was beyond so

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it was undeniable and you just felt like anytime, or

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>at least I did. I felt like anytime we were

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:17.319
<v Speaker 1>going to promote something, whether it was twenty four Old

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>School or the Girl next Door especially, it was like

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>get her on the cover of yeh Men's magazine.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Yep, it was feel one of the highest I mean,

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 2>it was one of the most sought after promotional tools.

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 2>And that's how it was just sold to us that

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it was promo. It was promo for your projects.

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I resented it a little bit because I

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 1>felt like it pulled me away from the ability to

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>They just slotted me into that and made me feel

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like that's where I belonged, and I was like, well,

0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I have so much more to offer than just my

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>physical attributes, obviously, and I thought, you know, fashion magazines

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.040
<v Speaker 1>are not going to want to touch that or me

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>in any way. And you know, that was the one

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>issue I had with it, because once you got into that,

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it was like that was your esthetic. And really, like

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 1>when I would film or when I would shoot those magazines,

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I always felt like the least version of myself phone

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>right right, because I was just like, Okay, let me

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>look at the racket clothing and what am I? What

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>am I? How far can I go without feeling like

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't? And if you look back, I mean I

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>feel like the only things I ever did for those

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>magazines was like bathing suits, because I thought, well, I

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I can you know, I frolic and bathing suits all

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the time. So I wasn't too worried. So I really

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>tried to stay as far away from like lingerie as

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I could. So I was trying to like find my

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>happy medium and my balance in that. Yea. But yeah,

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and those lists would come out and I actually didn't

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>even care for those, to be honest, I know, I

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I just thought they were another byproduct of this like

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>crazy thing that was that timeframe. And I'm just I

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>said to the actress that I just worked with Sadie Soverall,

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>who's so great on every year after that. I'm just

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>so glad she's coming up in a time where because

0:46:11.080 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 1>she's so beautiful and she'll get a chance, she's gonna

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 1>do all these like beautiful fashion magazines and she'll do

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 1>all these great things. But I'm like, I'm just so

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.280
<v Speaker 1>glad you're growing up in the industry at a time

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.359
<v Speaker 1>when you don't like, you don't have to do those

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>sorts of things, or you don't feel like those are

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the biggest things that are available to you to promote

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 1>what you're involved in.

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Correct.

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 2>They definitely also, like you're talking about with you know,

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:38.720
<v Speaker 2>looking at the rack of clothes, they shaped a certain

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.919
<v Speaker 2>type of cool girl aesthetic that didn't actually take into

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 2>consideration women at all. It was just whatever they decided

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 2>men thought was cool. And so, yeah, you're right that

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 2>now so much of what is available to women out

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 2>there with fashion magazines and is really about your own

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>taste and your own style and showing who you are

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 2>as a person.

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 1>So the nice thing is too, is that I feel

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like magazines in general are kind of shifting away because

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of social media. And the great thing about social media.

0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of bad stuff about social media, but

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I will say the great thing is that we're in

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 1>control of what we want to curate now, yep, exactly,

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So like I can decide what I want to show

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>people that have interest in me, what I want to

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>show them, you know, And so it takes the control

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>back a little bit and the power, and it feels

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>really great to not feel like you have to expose

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 1>yourself in any way and you can decide what you

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 1>want to do, which is so great.

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:44.360
<v Speaker 3>So great.

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, that leads us to The Girl next Door, which

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>was a big breakout role for you, and if nothing else,

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 2>will forever keep you alive through the power of gifts.

0:47:54.400 --> 0:48:00.720
<v Speaker 2>You You're beautiful, you will live forever in gift form.

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 2>This movie is so funny, it's very sweet, and you

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 2>are wonderful in it. But I also imagine that this

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't a very easy role for you.

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>No. Again, I was twenty, and I certainly it's funny.

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I was telling another friend of mine the other day

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>about it, because again, a lot of these memes, gifts,

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever like are all over and which I it's so amazing.

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that people still feel connected to the

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:36.800
<v Speaker 1>film and enjoy it, because I certainly do. But I

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 1>was I was saying to her that I think I,

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.440
<v Speaker 1>even though the role wouldn't be right for me now,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:47.439
<v Speaker 1>I would have had more confidence doing that role at

0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>forty three yea than I did at twenty, which seems

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>weird probably to people, But I think at twenty it

0:48:54.800 --> 0:49:00.759
<v Speaker 1>felt like such a departure from my confidence and womanhood

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:05.360
<v Speaker 1>that I really felt like I was doing a great

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>acting job.

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, oscar Worthy because yeah.

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is such a departure. But I

0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>think people were like, oh, of course, that's how yeah,

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you should look and feel. And I remember it was like, yeah,

0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of hair and makeup, a lot of you know,

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 1>smoke and mirrors. I mean, luckily I was twenty, so

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.439
<v Speaker 1>it was a good time to be doing that part.

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if I could be in those

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 1>outfits again, but I do I will say that, Yeah,

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think people are surprised to hear from me that

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I would have probably felt more comfortable doing a role

0:49:38.480 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>like that now.

0:49:39.840 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, listen, I couldn't agree with you more. There

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 2>is something about when you're a teenager and then you

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 2>become a young woman and you've been in the entertainment

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 2>industry and all of a sudden people look at you

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 2>and they go, now you are a powerful sexual being

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, I'm actual just still a teenager. Yes,

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm barely out of my teens. You were twenty and

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you don't feel that way, but everyone's looking at you

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 2>like that's who you are, that's how we perceive you.

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:15.600
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, requires requires quite a bit of acting.

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.479
<v Speaker 1>And I also do, like I always I laugh because

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 1>of Meil Hersch and I we joke about it. But

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:22.400
<v Speaker 1>like there's like a love scene at the end of

0:50:22.400 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>the film in the in the limousine after prom and

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 1>my because it was in the back of a limousine,

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:34.520
<v Speaker 1>my side of it. Filming was literally with like an

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>apple box, which for people at home that don't know,

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:40.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like just a square little box and that with

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>no a meal, with no like interaction with him at all,

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 1>just a camera and this box and then flip side

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>for a meal as well. I mean he was on

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the other side of it. And then just like kind

0:50:51.200 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of looking up into camera. I mean, so it's funny,

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like people don't realize that the movies take a certain

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to really put yourself out there

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 1>and go for it, and it's not always the most

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:10.240
<v Speaker 1>comfortable situation, and it's certainly not as it always seems

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:12.879
<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're watching the film, but it all

0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:15.960
<v Speaker 1>comes together really beautifully. And I really cared about that

0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 1>character a lot because I thought, you know, she had

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of heart and soul and she was vulnerable,

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't look at it as a movie about

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a porn star who was just sort of silly and frivolous,

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know. I really felt like she was searching for

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>her soul and her her purpose and falling in love

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>with this young man was a part of her journey.

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.840
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought it was a beautiful film. And yeah,

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>but it was. It was. It was. It was a

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>definitely a difficult film to do, but it was. I

0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:46.839
<v Speaker 1>really do love it so much.

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I want to touch on House of Wax because I

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 2>think it is very fun.

0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:08.400
<v Speaker 3>First of all, did you like the movie?

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:09.399
<v Speaker 1>I did like the movie.

0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, good.

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I was happy with the movie.

0:52:11.600 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay.

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Secondly, and related, will you join my fan club for it?

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I will help you run it. I it okay, great, Okay,

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.479
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad you loved it, okay, because yeah I did.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.919
<v Speaker 1>I really you know, that was one of like those

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 1>moments where it was like a pinch me moment on

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 1>set because Joel Silver, who was like this huge producer

0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and he was running Dark Castle at the time, that

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 1>was doing like all these amazing big horror films, and

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I just remember being on set and like when you

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.919
<v Speaker 1>when you know, when you're on a movie and you're like, oh,

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 1>this budget is yig, Like this is not some like

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>middle ground, small independent film. This is like this is

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>the big boys are out yep. And I remember being like, oh,

0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I've bade it, like I'm on my I'm leading a

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:04.760
<v Speaker 1>really big feature and it was just incredible and surreal,

0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and I remember thinking like, this is this is what

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I dreamed about, This is what I This was the dream,

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.920
<v Speaker 1>This was the goal that I wanted to be an

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>actress on, like a real film, you know, a Hollywood

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>movie that I knew was people were going to see,

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and and it just felt great and it was a

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:25.320
<v Speaker 1>lot of fun, and like Jared Patalechi and Chad, Michael

0:53:25.440 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Murray and Stilson. It was really it was a beautiful,

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>beautiful time and we had so much fun. We were

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>in Australia. We had a great time together.

0:53:33.560 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 3>And another very physical sect.

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, yes, very and a lot of stunts

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and fire and of course.

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Wax, of course, yes.

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was a really it was really intense.

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 1>But I have to say I had a lot of fun.

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I had the energy for it, and I was just yeah,

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to like kick ass, and yeah it was good.

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Well after a four year hiatus, yeah, you are back

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 2>on screen for Prime videos every year after. Did you

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:07.840
<v Speaker 2>feel at all rusty coming back or did it just

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like the most natural thing ever?

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 1>It was it was like a breath of fresh air,

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>like it felt so good. It did because I was

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I was emotionally ready for it, and I didn't have

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 1>this burden of like I'm leaving my kids behind. And

0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that's why I had to take the time because after

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I had after we had our first I was pregnant

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>throughout that on the ranch with Ashton Kutcher and I,

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.359
<v Speaker 1>So I was pregnant, really pregnant for that, and then

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 1>had her while we were like filming and had to

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 1>go back and was like breastfeeding through film. Like it

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was really hard to like juggle both of those worlds

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>for me. And then so when we had I was

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>on another film with Josh Jammel in Atlanta called Bandit,

0:54:56.800 --> 0:54:59.399
<v Speaker 1>and I found out I was pregnant on like while

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>we were there, and I thought, Okay, once this movie

0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 1>is over, there's no way because I had such bad

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:09.640
<v Speaker 1>morning sickness while we were filming that movie and I

0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 1>just thought, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing this again,

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.319
<v Speaker 1>like I can't, Like I just can't. And then so

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.880
<v Speaker 1>what I thought was only going to be about a

0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:20.759
<v Speaker 1>year or two ended up turning into four. You know

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>how the years just sort of fly by. But then yeah,

0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and then when yeah, every year after it came around

0:55:27.360 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and the project I started, you know, wrapping my head

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 1>around coming back to filming and being a part of

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 1>something again. And the show came about. I was like

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I read the script and I thought, wow, well, how

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:44.080
<v Speaker 1>perfect you know, sort of art imitating life in that

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the Szoo character is such a maternal force for this show,

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, wow, this is like the perfect back

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 1>introduction into coming back to work, and I just yeah,

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I got to set, and that all all felt very

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>very natural, funny enough. That felt really good And I

0:56:02.840 --> 0:56:08.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel at a place or nothing felt awkward. It

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.360
<v Speaker 1>just felt like it goes exactly where I was supposed

0:56:11.400 --> 0:56:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to be.

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I love that.

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 2>That's a great feeling because you know, similarly to what

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:18.160
<v Speaker 2>we talked about going back into an auditioning room.

0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that didn't feel good at all.

0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that didn't feel good. So knowing like showing up

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 2>on set and being.

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Like, ahh, this is right. I'm alostay.

0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I never as much as I would I would always

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:32.839
<v Speaker 1>have to like really prepare for auditions. I will say

0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I never was like the greatest at it to begin with.

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 1>So I think auditioning is always awkward, like taking that

0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:42.760
<v Speaker 1>much time off. I was like, oh, not so great

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for me. But yeah, no, the set felt like, you know,

0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 1>it's like my home. Yeah, it always felt that's always

0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.760
<v Speaker 1>felt like home. I've never felt uncomfortable on set.

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Good every year after began as a beloved romance novel,

0:56:56.360 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 2>especially within the book talk culture, were you will of

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 2>the rabid fandom and did it scare you a little

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 2>bit when you were trying to figure sue out. I mean,

0:57:07.000 --> 0:57:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you are obviously competing against what they've had in their

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:11.720
<v Speaker 2>heads for all this time.

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think I always will be competing with what

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>people have in their heads because as an avid reader myself,

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel the same way. I have a vision. But

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. I don't know for people that read if

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 1>they feel this way. And maybe I'm alone on it,

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but when I read, I have an idea, but it's

0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of fuzzy mine too.

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't agree with you more. Yeah, it's very It's

0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 3>very like with a filter, a blurry filter.

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a blurry filter. I mean it's clear, but it's not. Yeah,

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So I always like, let myself have a little grace

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and that, like, I wouldn't be disappointed if so and

0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>so played that character. But I will say I do

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:50.200
<v Speaker 1>have I think I have a sort of an aesthetic

0:57:50.280 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>for it, but a blurred vision of it. But I

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I will say, when I got the script, I then

0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>found out that it was based on a novel by

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Carl Fortune, and she's Canadian, and so even more so

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I was really because being Canadian, I was like, oh

0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I now that I know that i'm doing

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the show, I'm going to read the book. So I

0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>got the book and I was hooked, and I thought

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it was so well written. I ended up reading the

0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:22.440
<v Speaker 1>next book based on the other son's character, Charlie's character,

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and then I read all her other books. I went

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:30.959
<v Speaker 1>into like this crazy fandom thing myself with Carly's novels. Yeah,

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 1>and then of course, because of my algorithm, I ended

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>up figuring out what book talk was, and so I've

0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:40.040
<v Speaker 1>got I do I do see and get a lot

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 1>of recommendations based on obviously liking all.

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.000
<v Speaker 3>That other stuff exactly.

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But yeah, as far as like, sorry, your question

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>was the pressure, you know, I will say that I

0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>did put a lot of pressure on myself because I

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 1>had a vision for her, Like I said, a little

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>blurry vision, but I did have a vision for her.

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<v Speaker 1>But my biggest thing was if if I could take

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<v Speaker 1>away anything from the novel, and what Sue meant to

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<v Speaker 1>me was that like she just had this like joy

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<v Speaker 1>and love and presence about her and everyone wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be around her. Yeah, So I was just like, as

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<v Speaker 1>long as I can convey that and people feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they love Sue, then I feel like I've done a

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<v Speaker 1>good job, so I hope. I hope they feel that

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<v Speaker 1>and that passion I have for her from reading it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, Well, I can't wait to see it. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen it yet, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, the perfect summer show You're gonna love.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait, and I want to read all the

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<v Speaker 3>Should I read the books first? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I do love to read, So I'm wondering, like,

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<v Speaker 2>should I watch and then read?

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<v Speaker 1>I will discourage you from reading first, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>say I would maybe watch it because then the book

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<v Speaker 1>you'll kind of know where the story goes, and there

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<v Speaker 1>might be some spoilers, got it? So maybe I just

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<v Speaker 1>watch and then. But what I will say is, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you watch this season and then read the next

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<v Speaker 1>book which takes Pasey. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect, Great, I'll start. I'll start first with watching, then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll read the.

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<v Speaker 1>Next time and then read Meet Me at the Leak.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Okay, good plan.

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