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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of teen Beat. I'm Danielle Fischel,

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Speaker 2: host of not only this podcast, but of the nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety seven Disney World Easter Parade. It was hot and

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Speaker 2: I wore a big hat, but now I wear many hats,

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Speaker 2: and this one has me sitting with interesting people who've

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Speaker 2: done interesting things every single week, tapping into their teenage

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Speaker 2: years to find the awkward and uncomfortable truths that connect

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Speaker 2: us as members of.

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Speaker 3: The human race.

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Speaker 2: Because even if you were on TV as a kid,

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Speaker 2: like I was exposing every moment of your puberty to

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Speaker 2: millions of viewers looking back as a way to learn

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Speaker 2: more about who we've become today.

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Speaker 3: I look at it this way. I gave you my childhood.

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Speaker 2: It's time we hear yours. This week, I'm talking to

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Speaker 2: a pivotal piece of what I'm calling the Canadian invasion

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Speaker 2: of Y two K. Whether it was Ryan Gosling breaking

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Speaker 2: out from the Mickey Mouse Club, or Nellie Furtado flying

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Speaker 2: like a bird, Hayden Christiansen being cast as a young

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Speaker 2: Anakin skywalker, or Avril Levine wearing a tie over a

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Speaker 2: the all out attack also included a Calgary born, Montreal

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Speaker 2: raised actress who first found the spotlight as the young

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Speaker 2: co host of Popular Mechanics for Kids, arguably the oddest

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Speaker 2: magazine to ever become children's programming unless there was a

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Speaker 2: She would stay in Canada for her first major role

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Speaker 2: in Air Speed alongside Joe Montaigna, and then the Gemini

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Speaker 2: Award winning Lucky Girl, leading her to Los Angeles in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and one, where her whole life changed when

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Speaker 2: she was cast as Kim Bauer, Keifer Sutherland's always in

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Speaker 2: peril daughter in the pop culture smash twenty four. She'd

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Speaker 2: also appear in classic movies like Old School and Love Actually,

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Speaker 2: and then supply the Internet with thousands of beautiful gifts

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Speaker 2: from the movie The Girl next Door. But it's her

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Speaker 2: time on wildly underappreciated projects that interests me most, like

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Speaker 2: one of TV's funniest modern day sitcoms, Happy Endings, and

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Speaker 2: of Wax, which was much better than it ever should

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Speaker 2: have been. Now she's returned to our screens after a

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Speaker 2: four year hiatus where she focused on being a mom,

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Speaker 2: but now appearing as Sue Flork in the romantic drama

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Speaker 2: series Every Year After, currently available to stream in full

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Speaker 2: on Prime Video and today. As fellow members of the

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Speaker 2: Maxim FHM Complex magazine generation of Young Hollywood, we will

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Speaker 2: sit together and chat about what it was like to

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Speaker 2: Because even though in twenty thirteen she was crowned TV's

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Speaker 2: most Beautiful Woman, I think deep down she must have

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Speaker 2: some teenage embarrassment to share. Welcome to teen Beat. The

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Speaker 2: most famous Canadian to never appear on an episode of

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Speaker 3: It's Alicia Cuthbert. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, that kind of made me want

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Speaker 1: to cry. You did that better than anyone I've ever

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have given my career any better words than that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was the whole kit and kaboodle.

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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes it's just nice to hear all of

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Speaker 2: your incredible accomplishments.

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Speaker 3: Redbat to you.

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Speaker 1: I was getting a little teary eyed. They're like that,

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Speaker 1: but I was also laughing. I was like, this is

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Speaker 2: You are so welcome. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 2: need to know. How did you not end up on Degrassi.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say, I mean, until you

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Speaker 1: But you know, the director, Kit Hood, he he was

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Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was a movie called Dancing

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Speaker 1: on the Moon. And you talk about embarrassment, I think

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Speaker 1: Want to say? I was fourteen? Okay, yeah, weird. I

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Speaker 2: And we didn't kiss through the week, so we didn't

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Speaker 1: but I yeah, it was very scary, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: it's so funny, like you put yourself in these situations

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Speaker 1: it's not real, but yet I mean, obviously you're a

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Speaker 2: Your physical body bringing it to life. So like it's

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to even earlier because I

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Speaker 2: I want to know how did that come about? Because

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Speaker 3: How did it happen?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. My mom and dad would

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Speaker 1: It is one of those mysterious things that I that

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Speaker 1: I still question and I go, well, obviously I'm on

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's another thing we share very similar

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Speaker 3: I feel that was going to happen everywhere we went.

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Speaker 2: My parents were told, you should get her in you

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Speaker 3: And it was and my parents were.

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Speaker 2: It was like the universe was like, all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: And I think too, I think our personalities. I mean,

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Speaker 1: be like, hey, what's up totally? What's your story?

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Speaker 2: So, like it's probably a smart idea right before you

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Speaker 3: We're going to walk into a restaurant, you're going to order, so.

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Speaker 2: it happens. But that's really smart that you're encouraging that

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Speaker 1: For well, they're turning into a lot of star people

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Speaker 1: a lot of my last three four years of high

441
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: school were you know, in the trailer and with the

442
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: on set tutors and you know, the drill. I did

443
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: all my exams and yeah, like the trailers. It was

444
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: so weird. I mean I remember at one point, like,

445
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: you know, your attendance report card at the end, and

446
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: it was like, I think I missed like half the

447
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: school year. But I will say when I was home

448
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I would get back from filming, it

449
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: would go I'd go, yeah, just like a normal kid,

450
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 1: I'd go straight to school and regular high school. Yeah.

451
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: It was you know, it was weird. I I always

452
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: felt like high school and elementary at the time because

453
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 1: I was filming, felt like such a burden, like it

454
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: was in my way right. I was like, this is

455
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: like it was always aggravating because here I was trying

456
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: to focus one hundred percent of my time and energy

457
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: into what I was filming, and then they'd have to

458
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: like rip me off set for two hours to study

459
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,239
Speaker 1: math and English, and I'm like, I'm not gonna need

460
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: any of this. I want to learn English, and you know,

461
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: I yeah, I was like, I don't want to like

462
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: be in school. I have a job, Like, isn't the

463
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: whole point of going to school to train to do

464
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: something and I'm already doing it. So it always I

465
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: always had this like real bad tug of war with it,

466
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: and I couldn't wait for it to be over. And

467
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: then now again ironically I wish I would have had

468
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: like the college university experience and knew what that felt like.

469
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: I never got to really do any of that, And

470
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: I think i'd be a way better student now too,

471
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: because I you know, as you get older, you your mind,

472
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: you're quenched to like learn and take in new things

473
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: and experiences. And I know what I'd want to study,

474
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 1: and so it would be you know, at one point

475
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: during COVID, I almost try to do some online university classes,

476
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: and but then I was like, oh gosh, the kids,

477
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, nah, maybe not, I'll just keep

478
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: drinking my wine.

479
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 3: What would you want to study now?

480
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: I think I would like history, art history. I think

481
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: like Cornell had some really cool like women leaders in

482
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: business nice. I don't know there was some other topics,

483
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think like there were so many. And

484
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: I was extremely dyslexic as a child, okay, and which

485
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: most artists, I think most artistic people can be. It's

486
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: not uncommon. But I really struggled and then but now

487
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: I've found a way to you know, ease my mind

488
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: work into it. I read so much now and so

489
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: studying and all that I think would come a lot

490
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: more naturally to me, so yeah, but I did end

491
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: up doing it.

492
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: Very similarly, I also did not enjoy or appreciate school when.

493
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: I was I just it was. It felt annoying to me.

494
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: It was not my favorite thing. I just wanted to

495
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: do the bare minimum I could do to still get by.

496
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: But then I did go to college at twenty seven.

497
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: I studied, and I knew I wanted to study psychology,

498
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: and I graduated and I loved it. So I think

499
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: you're right that you now that you have a you know,

500
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: a better understanding of what specifically you'd be looking for

501
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: to you know, you could take any classes you want.

502
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: You're not limited by like getting a specific type of degree.

503
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: You'd probably be an A plus student and would love it.

504
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: So I highly recommend just signing up even just one,

505
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: one little class, you know, class online.

506
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: Just like yeah, I dip my toe and your toe in.

507
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 3: See what happens. If you end up loving it, you

508
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: can always do.

509
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: More amazing.

510
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: When you look back.

511
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: Would you consider yourself to be a cool kid because

512
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: it seems like you'd be really cool.

513
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 4: I don't know about cool, but I would say that

514
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 4: I really got along with everybody I wasn't in like

515
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 4: some mean girl clique or.

516
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: I'd say it was like very much Canadian in the

517
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: sense that I was super neutral.

518
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's great.

519
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: I Yeah, everyone's amazing. I would hang out with like

520
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: the goth kids. I would talk to, like the athletes

521
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: I liked, you know. But I did have my two

522
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: really best girlfriends. They were like my steadfast like we

523
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: were always thickest thieves together, Jan and Steph, and we

524
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: were just they were my people. And then but I

525
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: really got along with everybody and I so I would

526
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: say not so much popular, but I don't think anyone,

527
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anyone had a problem with me, right,

528
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, you.

529
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: Weren't offensive to anyone.

530
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't. But I wouldn't say I was

531
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: like the cool kid. I just think, Yeah, like I said,

532
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, neutral would be the best

533
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: way to describe it.

534
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: Totally get that. Are you still friends with Jen and Steph?

535
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

536
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: Steph? You know I haven't talked to Stephan a while,

537
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: but Jen, Yes, Jen, I I I'm still close with. Yeah.

538
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: It's uh that that those are friendships that you know,

539
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: you go through life and they're just with you for

540
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: so many years. Of it, and they've you know, they've

541
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: been there through such interesting times too, and you're like

542
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: adolescents when you're becoming an adult and going through those,

543
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: like you said, those awkward teenage years. You know, we

544
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: have so many funny stories and history together that you

545
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: just it's undeniable, like it no matter how much time

546
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: we have a part, or how much time goes without

547
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: a phone call. I know that when I do speak

548
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: to her, it's like we never left, and those are

549
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: like so special and really, yeah, you kind of cherish

550
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: those those friendships. It's because it's in your adulthood. It's

551
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: really hard to make friends like that because the history

552
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: is just not there.

553
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: Exactly yep, I know, And they're getting to know such

554
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: a I feel like friends you make now only get

555
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: to know one very specific briide of you, version of you. Yeah,

556
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: whereas you know, and this version of me is not

557
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: even the best version, not that it's a bad version,

558
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: but like there was a time before children where I

559
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: was more fun and I'm just not as fun now,

560
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: And so no offense to the new friends I have,

561
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: but you're not getting the most fun me.

562
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: You're getting a very kind of structured now.

563
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: When we want to be like the fun version of ourselves.

564
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: We pay for it totally, like there's no like I

565
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: remember after having our first I had I forget. It

566
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what we were doing, but

567
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: we had a night out and my parents were watching

568
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: our daughter and we got home at like, I don't know,

569
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: twelve thirty and I certainly had too much wine or

570
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and I just wanted to, like, you know,

571
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: treat myself. I had finally finished breastfeeding. I was like, oo,

572
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: time to go. And that was the night my daughter

573
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: decided in the middle of the night to have a

574
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: flu throwing up. My head was pounding. It was like

575
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: they know they can sniff out when you're trying to

576
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: enjoy yourself exactly, you're just a little naughty. They just

577
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: know when you want to be a little naughty.

578
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: Totally. They're like, are you having fun without it?

579
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: They're like, I'm gonna decide to get blue and you're

580
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: like really, or my teeths are going to start coming

581
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: in and I'm going to have a fever. Thank you.

582
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: It's always the way.

583
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: Oh they wait, They wait until you're in the worst

584
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: position ever.

585
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: So I want to go back to when you moved

586
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: out to Hollywood, which I think was two thousand and one,

587
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: you were not even twenty one. Two thousand, okay, so

588
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: two thousand, you're not even twenty one years old. No,

589
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: did you come out by yourself? Were you super nervous?

590
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Did you all like, did you know people?

591
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Now I didn't any This is a funny story actually,

592
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: so I didn't know anyone. Like I said, I had

593
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: a place at the Oakward Apartments, and I I'm not

594
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: even kidding you. When I landed, I get to the

595
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: apartment and I get through the door and I'm like, okay,

596
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to like set up all my stuff. And

597
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: really the only possessions that I had were like my clothing,

598
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: my toiletries, and like twelve of my favorite DVDs. Because

599
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: now we're talking. Wait, all these people kids listening to this,

600
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: They're like, it's a DVD. Yes, I had DVDs, my

601
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: favorite DVDs, and I opened my suitcase and they're all gone.

602
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: So from the store loved, Yeah, from the time I

603
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: left Canada to the time I got someone you know,

604
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: in transit ended up opening my suitcase and stealing all

605
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: my DVDs. So all I had was clothing and toils.

606
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: I have to tell you I wasn't afraid to be

607
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: in LA. I was excited. I was really ready to

608
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: like do everything I could to make it and to

609
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: hopefully get a job there. But what I will say

610
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: is that the one thing I wasn't expecting was like

611
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: the loneliness. And I think, you know, not having DVDs

612
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: didn't help.

613
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: Nothing to watch.

614
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was like my fallback of

615
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: like I know it when I'm not like reading scripts

616
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: and going to auditions.

617
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: Mom's asked my favorite movies. Yeah, didn't even have that.

618
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was my first experience away. And you

619
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: know how hard it is in LA to like meet people,

620
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: You're either in your car. I'm sure your guests have

621
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: said this. It's like LA is not a very easy

622
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: place to just socialize. When you're in New York. You

623
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: walk down the street, there's bodies, there's people everywhere. Yes,

624
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: LA doesn't have that culture. So I just spent a

625
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: lot of time by myself for a good I want

626
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: to say, like gear, Yeah, pretty secluded and that was

627
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: there were Yeah, there were moments where I just I

628
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to give up. I didn't It didn't propel

629
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: me to like want to leave or give up on it.

630
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: It was, but it was just a feeling that I

631
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: had to like settle into my self and my loneeness

632
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: and my comfortable just being comfortable with being by myself and.

633
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: Being just with me, and such a good lesson.

634
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: But it's really interesting to confront because when you when

635
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: you grow up, you've got your siblings, and if you

636
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: don't have your siblings, you have your cousins, or you

637
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: have your parents are always there. You have your network

638
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: of friends that you go to school and see every day,

639
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: and then you're just like I was just picked right

640
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: up out of that whole situation and then just pluck

641
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: plunked myself down into an apartment with zero nothing, and

642
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I went, whooh, you know, and I didn't have a boyfriend.

643
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I didn't have It wasn't like I was like having

644
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: like phone conversations with a long distance board. I really

645
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: was very very alone. But it helped me focus on

646
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: the goals, which were, you know, getting out there and

647
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: succeeding and whatnot. So it wasn't totally bad, but wow,

648
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: that was an interesting time.

649
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: So when in that process after moving to LA did

650
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: you read for twenty four.

651
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Six months into that, Wow, six months into that, I

652
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: ended up.

653
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: I had it.

654
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: They don't do these things anymore, but or at least

655
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they do unless they're bringing them back

656
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: and maybe you can tell me. But I had a

657
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: network deal, like an exclusive network deal with Fox when

658
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: I got there, so I was only allowed to audition

659
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: for Fox shows pilots, Okay, that didn't cross over into

660
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: the feature side of things, but it was exclusive for television,

661
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: so my auditioning was Back then, there was a ton

662
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: of stuff for men of every network, but you know,

663
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: Fox definitely had a lot of stuff going on. So

664
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I was lacking in anything as far

665
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: as like auditions go, but I was only auditioning for them,

666
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: and I got close to a couple of things, and

667
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: then twenty four was but I was getting dangerously close

668
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: to like the end of my stay, okay, and I

669
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: remember being like, I don't know if this is going

670
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: to work out, I'm gonna have to go back to Canada,

671
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go to college or you know.

672
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 1: I just I wasn't sure what was going to happen,

673
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: and I was really nervous about it. All, and I

674
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: ended up getting the twenty four pilot script, and it

675
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: was my last audition before I was the deal was

676
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: going to be up and I was going to be

677
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: heading back, so there was a lot on it. But

678
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: I also thought, you know, I took a crack at it,

679
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: and maybe if I can go back and work in

680
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Canada and save up some more money, I'll have enough

681
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: to keep going and come back. But then I went

682
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: in and auditioned and I didn't hear anything for like

683
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: a week, and then I got a call saying, oh,

684
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: they want to read you again, and then they want

685
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: to read you again, and then so it was like

686
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: three four times I went in and then and then

687
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: I had a screen test with Kiefer and it was

688
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: like me and another girl, and I just thought, okay,

689
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. And I just gave it my all.

690
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, I'm not gonna worry about it.

691
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put stress on myself. I'm just gonna go. Really,

692
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really prepared ready to go. And I

693
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: went in and then I was driving driving home and

694
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, well, I guess this is it.

695
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: And then as soon as I got into the apartment,

696
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: I had a voicemail and it was my agent going

697
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: turn back around. They want to do a wardrobe fitting.

698
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: You're filming on Monday.

699
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

700
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. So I called my

701
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: parents and I was like, I guess I'm not coming

702
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: home on Wednesday. Wow.

703
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: Literally the lat like days away from you going home.

704
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't. I mean from the time the

705
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: audition's process started with twenty four but by the time

706
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: I ended up getting it, I was literally three days

707
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: away from that was a Friday. They called me and

708
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: they were like, you got it. It's good, You're good,

709
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: and I'm You're gonna film on Monday, and I was

710
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: supposed to my flight home to cam it was on

711
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: the Wednesday, So I was cuttings. Yeah.

712
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: So I don't think they do that anymore, those exclusive

713
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: audition deals.

714
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think the landscape is

715
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: so different now and we have so many streamings. Yeah,

716
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: it's so And even like the auditioning process, I don't

717
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I can't even I went into I don't know if

718
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: you've been in one recently, but I went into one

719
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: audition like physically went in And now because we now

720
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: we put ourselves on like if something comes up and

721
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: they need a tape, you do it yourself. Now because

722
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: of after COVID, everything has changed. And but I did

723
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: get a call for a show recently, like I think

724
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: five months ago or something, and they were like, oh, no,

725
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: they're they're seeing people in person. And I went oh,

726
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's fine, and so I

727
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: prep it and I do everything, and then I got

728
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: in there and there was like all the producers and

729
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: then the camera. It had been so long, and I

730
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: just I mean, I've been doing you You've been doing this.

731
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for decades, two decades, and I'm like,

732
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I reverted back to like it's

733
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: eleven years old. And I was like and I couldn't

734
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: even speak, and I was like and I said, to know,

735
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I have to start again. I'm like, yeah,

736
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, my hands are shaked. I'm like, why am

737
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: I shaking? This is very weird.

738
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 2: I have not been in an audition room in a

739
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: very long time. But I did have my first like

740
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: in person meeting, just you know, a non zoom meeting,

741
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: and it was it was the same thing. I was like,

742
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 2: you can see the lower half of my body. I'm

743
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: not used to that. I like, I don't know what

744
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: to do with my hands, And when there is a silence,

745
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: I felt like I had to immediately fill it.

746
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: It was so it was so weird. I was like,

747
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how to have meetings in person anymore.

748
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it was so funny because I had this

749
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: like outer body experience, and that's sort of what like

750
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: stumped me a little bit because as soon as we

751
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: started getting into the scene, I like left my body

752
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and I started seeing myself, like you said, trying to

753
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: fill the space. And I was like rushing through this

754
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: dialogue and I was like, this is not even how

755
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: I act. Like I don't even understand like what this

756
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: performance is that I'm trying to pull off. But I

757
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: was like I had to halt it. I was like,

758
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: oh no, no, I was just like this is so weird.

759
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: Sorry, let me start again. I'm going to take a breath.

760
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: But I think it's just like another byproduct of that

761
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: COVID experience in that we've now all had to sort

762
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: of find ways to do what we do away from

763
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: human beings and then to get myself into a room

764
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: which used to be so normal to me feels so

765
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: foreign because we're just so not used to the process

766
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: with other human beings around, and that human connection it

767
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: changed the energy within me in such a way that

768
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: I was like taken aback and I thought, oh, I

769
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: got to work on that, because that's not me and

770
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: nor was it ever my experience before that. So I

771
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: just got so used to sort of, you know, curating

772
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: my own stuff, editing my own tapes, you know, doing

773
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: all those things. So it was really an eye opener.

774
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: But it's funny, I don't you know. We just did

775
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: shot this show in Vancouver, and I will say that

776
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: didn't feel any different, and filming didn't feel different, and

777
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: if anything, that's like my happy place. Yeah, but you know,

778
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: those audition spaces are very awkward because it's just a

779
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: weird room, an office. It's it's they're not they're not

780
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: like the real deal.

781
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 3: YEP, I totally know exactly what you mean.

782
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: It feels very and also if you are very performative,

783
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: you have you are literally there to perform, and yet

784
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: you also are supposed to be based in reality and grounded,

785
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 2: and so there's a there's like a real you where

786
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: you talk for a little bit first and then you

787
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: have to.

788
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Do the performative you.

789
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: For you know, it was so funny. We didn't even talk.

790
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: It was like okay, go and I was like, oh, oh,

791
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: we don't even get to like no, like, how's the

792
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: weather today?

793
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: Nothing?

794
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: No? Nothing? No?

795
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: All right?

796
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

797
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: I know that when I watched TV, because you know,

798
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: we grew up in the business, I'm always wondering what

799
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: was the shoot like, And when watching twenty four I

800
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 2: remember constantly thinking, this seems very challenging. I am guessing

801
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: there were a lot of middle of the night shoots,

802
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: action scenes with stunts, intense continuity.

803
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: There was a lot of running, too much running. If

804
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: you ask me what was shooting that show.

805
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Like very intense. You nailed all the major points of

806
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: that experience. I would say continuity for sure. But we

807
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: had great continuity people, so that helped. I don't know

808
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: if you've ever been like on a quick film where

809
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: you're like also having to focus on continuity. It's really difficult.

810
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: It is very difficult.

811
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's not great, but no, on that show,

812
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: they it was it was like a well oiled machine.

813
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: I will say so, I really only had to like

814
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: dial in and focus on what I needed to do,

815
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: but it was my stuff was very intense and trying

816
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: to not make that character Kim Bauer feel like, you know,

817
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: a burden in a way, you know, and and bring

818
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: as much realism to the ridiculous scenarios that she was

819
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: involved in. And I, you know, it's so funny. I

820
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: have a couple of young actresses that I know now

821
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: that are in that stage of their career where, you know,

822
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: you hit an age where you're too young to do

823
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: any of the younger stuff, but you're not old enough

824
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: to play you know, the wife, the you know or

825
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: the love interests, and you end up slotting yourself into

826
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the daughter role. Like at some point, if you're starting

827
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: off as a child actor, you're gonna you're gonna end

828
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: up being the daughter role. Yep, maybe even more than once.

829
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: And the daughter role is really challenging because the daughter

830
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: role is a role that I can't really die because

831
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: it's it's too sacred. But at the same time, they

832
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: have to write you in and find ways to keep

833
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: your relevant. And you see that with a lot of

834
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: different shows. Although Landman is doing a great job with

835
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, Ali latter's playing the amazing mom and her daughter,

836
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: and you know, the their writing is becoming really interesting.

837
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: But for a long time, I think that daughter role

838
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: always felt like the Kim Bauer. I was like, I

839
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: was like the epitome of the daughter role, right right,

840
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: It's a stereotypical daughter role. But yeah, it was. It

841
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: was intense. It was a lot of fun though. But

842
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: we did a lot of night shoots. We I remember,

843
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: I think for like, I don't know what it was

844
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: five months out of the year. I was sleeping during

845
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: the day, work being during the night. Yeah, it was

846
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: a lot.

847
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 3: Did you like being an action star?

848
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: I did? Actually, I loved it. Yeah. I feel like

849
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: House of Wax. I got to do a bunch of

850
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: action too towards the end of the film, which is

851
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: I got to pull my experience from twenty four. Yeah.

852
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: Action is really is great. I love it.

853
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: I want to talk about this era we grew up

854
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: into of the men's magazine. Oh yeah, every I mean

855
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: the teen idol publication transformed into basically bikini photoshoots with

856
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: matchups between us about who's hotter, which is super cool, brutal.

857
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: Did that kind of attention make you uncomfortable at the

858
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: time or did you just embrace it?

859
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: Oh? I think I was pretty uncomfortable.

860
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

861
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I never really understood it, and I also knew

862
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: that it was a beast of a thing that was

863
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: that was undeniable and unavoidable, correct, right, Like, I don't

864
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: think there was a time or space where you felt

865
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: like you could go to your publicism and be like,

866
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I mean no, the viewership, the amount of

867
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: people that tuned into that kind of stuff, and the

868
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: volume in which the magazines were selling was beyond so

869
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: it was undeniable and you just felt like anytime, or

870
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: at least I did. I felt like anytime we were

871
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: going to promote something, whether it was twenty four Old

872
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: School or the Girl next Door especially, it was like

873
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: get her on the cover of yeh Men's magazine.

874
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: Yep, it was feel one of the highest I mean,

875
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: it was one of the most sought after promotional tools.

876
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: And that's how it was just sold to us that

877
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: it was promo. It was promo for your projects.

878
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: I think I resented it a little bit because I

879
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: felt like it pulled me away from the ability to

880
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: They just slotted me into that and made me feel

881
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: like that's where I belonged, and I was like, well,

882
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: I have so much more to offer than just my

883
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: physical attributes, obviously, and I thought, you know, fashion magazines

884
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: are not going to want to touch that or me

885
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: in any way. And you know, that was the one

886
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: issue I had with it, because once you got into that,

887
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: it was like that was your esthetic. And really, like

888
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: when I would film or when I would shoot those magazines,

889
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: I always felt like the least version of myself phone

890
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: right right, because I was just like, Okay, let me

891
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: look at the racket clothing and what am I? What

892
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: am I? How far can I go without feeling like

893
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't? And if you look back, I mean I

894
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: feel like the only things I ever did for those

895
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: magazines was like bathing suits, because I thought, well, I

896
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: I can you know, I frolic and bathing suits all

897
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: the time. So I wasn't too worried. So I really

898
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: tried to stay as far away from like lingerie as

899
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: I could. So I was trying to like find my

900
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: happy medium and my balance in that. Yea. But yeah,

901
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: and those lists would come out and I actually didn't

902
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: even care for those, to be honest, I know, I

903
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: I just thought they were another byproduct of this like

904
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: crazy thing that was that timeframe. And I'm just I

905
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: said to the actress that I just worked with Sadie Soverall,

906
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: who's so great on every year after that. I'm just

907
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: so glad she's coming up in a time where because

908
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: she's so beautiful and she'll get a chance, she's gonna

909
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: do all these like beautiful fashion magazines and she'll do

910
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: all these great things. But I'm like, I'm just so

911
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: glad you're growing up in the industry at a time

912
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: when you don't like, you don't have to do those

913
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: sorts of things, or you don't feel like those are

914
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: the biggest things that are available to you to promote

915
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: what you're involved in.

916
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: Correct.

917
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: They definitely also, like you're talking about with you know,

918
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: looking at the rack of clothes, they shaped a certain

919
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,919
Speaker 2: type of cool girl aesthetic that didn't actually take into

920
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: consideration women at all. It was just whatever they decided

921
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: men thought was cool. And so, yeah, you're right that

922
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: now so much of what is available to women out

923
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: there with fashion magazines and is really about your own

924
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: taste and your own style and showing who you are

925
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: as a person.

926
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: So the nice thing is too, is that I feel

927
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: like magazines in general are kind of shifting away because

928
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: of social media. And the great thing about social media.

929
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad stuff about social media, but

930
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: I will say the great thing is that we're in

931
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: control of what we want to curate now, yep, exactly,

932
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: So like I can decide what I want to show

933
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: people that have interest in me, what I want to

934
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: show them, you know, And so it takes the control

935
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: back a little bit and the power, and it feels

936
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: really great to not feel like you have to expose

937
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: yourself in any way and you can decide what you

938
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: want to do, which is so great.

939
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 3: So great.

940
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 2: Well, that leads us to The Girl next Door, which

941
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: was a big breakout role for you, and if nothing else,

942
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: will forever keep you alive through the power of gifts.

943
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: You You're beautiful, you will live forever in gift form.

944
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: This movie is so funny, it's very sweet, and you

945
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: are wonderful in it. But I also imagine that this

946
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: wasn't a very easy role for you.

947
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: No. Again, I was twenty, and I certainly it's funny.

948
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: I was telling another friend of mine the other day

949
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: about it, because again, a lot of these memes, gifts,

950
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: whatever like are all over and which I it's so amazing.

951
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that people still feel connected to the

952
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 1: film and enjoy it, because I certainly do. But I

953
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: was I was saying to her that I think I,

954
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: even though the role wouldn't be right for me now,

955
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 1: I would have had more confidence doing that role at

956
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: forty three yea than I did at twenty, which seems

957
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: weird probably to people, But I think at twenty it

958
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: felt like such a departure from my confidence and womanhood

959
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: that I really felt like I was doing a great

960
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: acting job.

961
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oscar Worthy because yeah.

962
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: I was like, this is such a departure. But I

963
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: think people were like, oh, of course, that's how yeah,

964
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: you should look and feel. And I remember it was like, yeah,

965
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: a lot of hair and makeup, a lot of you know,

966
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors. I mean, luckily I was twenty, so

967
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: it was a good time to be doing that part.

968
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I could be in those

969
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: outfits again, but I do I will say that, Yeah,

970
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: I think people are surprised to hear from me that

971
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: I would have probably felt more comfortable doing a role

972
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: like that now.

973
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, listen, I couldn't agree with you more. There

974
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: is something about when you're a teenager and then you

975
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: become a young woman and you've been in the entertainment

976
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: industry and all of a sudden people look at you

977
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: and they go, now you are a powerful sexual being

978
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm actual just still a teenager. Yes,

979
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm barely out of my teens. You were twenty and

980
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: you don't feel that way, but everyone's looking at you

981
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: like that's who you are, that's how we perceive you.

982
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: And so yeah, requires requires quite a bit of acting.

983
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: And I also do, like I always I laugh because

984
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: of Meil Hersch and I we joke about it. But

985
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: like there's like a love scene at the end of

986
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: the film in the in the limousine after prom and

987
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: my because it was in the back of a limousine,

988
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: my side of it. Filming was literally with like an

989
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: apple box, which for people at home that don't know,

990
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: it's like just a square little box and that with

991
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: no a meal, with no like interaction with him at all,

992
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: just a camera and this box and then flip side

993
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: for a meal as well. I mean he was on

994
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: the other side of it. And then just like kind

995
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: of looking up into camera. I mean, so it's funny,

996
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: like people don't realize that the movies take a certain

997
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: you know, you have to really put yourself out there

998
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: and go for it, and it's not always the most

999
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: comfortable situation, and it's certainly not as it always seems

1000
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: when you're when you're watching the film, but it all

1001
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: comes together really beautifully. And I really cared about that

1002
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: character a lot because I thought, you know, she had

1003
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: a lot of heart and soul and she was vulnerable,

1004
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: and I didn't look at it as a movie about

1005
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: a porn star who was just sort of silly and frivolous,

1006
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: you know. I really felt like she was searching for

1007
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: her soul and her her purpose and falling in love

1008
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: with this young man was a part of her journey.

1009
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: And I just thought it was a beautiful film. And yeah,

1010
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: but it was. It was. It was. It was a

1011
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: definitely a difficult film to do, but it was. I

1012
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: really do love it so much.

1013
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: I want to touch on House of Wax because I

1014
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: think it is very fun.

1015
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 3: First of all, did you like the movie?

1016
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: I did like the movie.

1017
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good.

1018
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I was happy with the movie.

1019
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

1020
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: Secondly, and related, will you join my fan club for it?

1021
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: Well, I will help you run it. I it okay, great, Okay,

1022
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you loved it, okay, because yeah I did.

1023
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: I really you know, that was one of like those

1024
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: moments where it was like a pinch me moment on

1025
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: set because Joel Silver, who was like this huge producer

1026
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: and he was running Dark Castle at the time, that

1027
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: was doing like all these amazing big horror films, and

1028
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: I just remember being on set and like when you

1029
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: when you know, when you're on a movie and you're like, oh,

1030
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: this budget is yig, Like this is not some like

1031
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: middle ground, small independent film. This is like this is

1032
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: the big boys are out yep. And I remember being like, oh,

1033
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: I've bade it, like I'm on my I'm leading a

1034
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: really big feature and it was just incredible and surreal,

1035
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking like, this is this is what

1036
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: I dreamed about, This is what I This was the dream,

1037
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: This was the goal that I wanted to be an

1038
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: actress on, like a real film, you know, a Hollywood

1039
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: movie that I knew was people were going to see,

1040
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: and and it just felt great and it was a

1041
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of fun, and like Jared Patalechi and Chad, Michael

1042
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: Murray and Stilson. It was really it was a beautiful,

1043
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: beautiful time and we had so much fun. We were

1044
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: in Australia. We had a great time together.

1045
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 3: And another very physical sect.

1046
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, very and a lot of stunts

1047
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: and fire and of course.

1048
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: Wax, of course, yes.

1049
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a really it was really intense.

1050
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: But I have to say I had a lot of fun.

1051
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: I had the energy for it, and I was just yeah,

1052
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to like kick ass, and yeah it was good.

1053
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: Well after a four year hiatus, yeah, you are back

1054
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: on screen for Prime videos every year after. Did you

1055
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: feel at all rusty coming back or did it just

1056
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: feel like the most natural thing ever?

1057
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: It was it was like a breath of fresh air,

1058
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: like it felt so good. It did because I was

1059
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: I was emotionally ready for it, and I didn't have

1060
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: this burden of like I'm leaving my kids behind. And

1061
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: that's why I had to take the time because after

1062
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: I had after we had our first I was pregnant

1063
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: throughout that on the ranch with Ashton Kutcher and I,

1064
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 1: So I was pregnant, really pregnant for that, and then

1065
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: had her while we were like filming and had to

1066
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: go back and was like breastfeeding through film. Like it

1067
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: was really hard to like juggle both of those worlds

1068
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: for me. And then so when we had I was

1069
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: on another film with Josh Jammel in Atlanta called Bandit,

1070
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: and I found out I was pregnant on like while

1071
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: we were there, and I thought, Okay, once this movie

1072
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: is over, there's no way because I had such bad

1073
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: morning sickness while we were filming that movie and I

1074
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: just thought, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing this again,

1075
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: like I can't, Like I just can't. And then so

1076
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: what I thought was only going to be about a

1077
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: year or two ended up turning into four. You know

1078
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: how the years just sort of fly by. But then yeah,

1079
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: and then when yeah, every year after it came around

1080
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: and the project I started, you know, wrapping my head

1081
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: around coming back to filming and being a part of

1082
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: something again. And the show came about. I was like

1083
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: I read the script and I thought, wow, well, how

1084
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: perfect you know, sort of art imitating life in that

1085
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: the Szoo character is such a maternal force for this show,

1086
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, this is like the perfect back

1087
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: introduction into coming back to work, and I just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got to set, and that all all felt very

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Speaker 1: very natural, funny enough. That felt really good And I

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Speaker 1: didn't feel at a place or nothing felt awkward. It

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Speaker 1: just felt like it goes exactly where I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's a great feeling because you know, similarly to what

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00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 2: we talked about going back into an auditioning room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't feel good at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that didn't feel good. So knowing like showing up

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Speaker 2: on set and being.

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Speaker 3: Like, ahh, this is right. I'm alostay.

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Speaker 1: I never as much as I would I would always

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Speaker 1: have to like really prepare for auditions. I will say

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Speaker 1: I never was like the greatest at it to begin with.

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Speaker 1: So I think auditioning is always awkward, like taking that

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Speaker 1: much time off. I was like, oh, not so great

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00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: for me. But yeah, no, the set felt like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like my home. Yeah, it always felt that's always

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Speaker 1: felt like home. I've never felt uncomfortable on set.

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Speaker 2: Good every year after began as a beloved romance novel,

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00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: especially within the book talk culture, were you will of

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Speaker 2: the rabid fandom and did it scare you a little

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00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: bit when you were trying to figure sue out. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you are obviously competing against what they've had in their

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Speaker 2: heads for all this time.

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Speaker 1: And I think I always will be competing with what

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Speaker 1: people have in their heads because as an avid reader myself,

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way. I have a vision. But

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I don't know for people that read if

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Speaker 1: they feel this way. And maybe I'm alone on it,

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Speaker 1: but when I read, I have an idea, but it's

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Speaker 1: kind of fuzzy mine too.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. Yeah, it's very It's

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: very like with a filter, a blurry filter.

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Speaker 1: It's a blurry filter. I mean it's clear, but it's not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I always like, let myself have a little grace

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Speaker 1: and that, like, I wouldn't be disappointed if so and

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00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: so played that character. But I will say I do

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00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: have I think I have a sort of an aesthetic

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00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: for it, but a blurred vision of it. But I

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Speaker 1: I will say, when I got the script, I then

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00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: found out that it was based on a novel by

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Speaker 1: Carl Fortune, and she's Canadian, and so even more so

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Speaker 1: I was really because being Canadian, I was like, oh

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00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: my gosh, I now that I know that i'm doing

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Speaker 1: the show, I'm going to read the book. So I

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Speaker 1: got the book and I was hooked, and I thought

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Speaker 1: it was so well written. I ended up reading the

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Speaker 1: next book based on the other son's character, Charlie's character,

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Speaker 1: and then I read all her other books. I went

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00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,959
Speaker 1: into like this crazy fandom thing myself with Carly's novels. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then of course, because of my algorithm, I ended

1141
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: up figuring out what book talk was, and so I've

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00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: got I do I do see and get a lot

1143
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: of recommendations based on obviously liking all.

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Speaker 3: That other stuff exactly.

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00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, as far as like, sorry, your question

1146
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: was the pressure, you know, I will say that I

1147
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: did put a lot of pressure on myself because I

1148
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: had a vision for her, Like I said, a little

1149
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: blurry vision, but I did have a vision for her.

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00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: But my biggest thing was if if I could take

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: away anything from the novel, and what Sue meant to

1152
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: me was that like she just had this like joy

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: and love and presence about her and everyone wanted to

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00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: be around her. Yeah, So I was just like, as

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00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: long as I can convey that and people feel like

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00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: they love Sue, then I feel like I've done a

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: good job, so I hope. I hope they feel that

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: and that passion I have for her from reading it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good, Well, I can't wait to see it. I haven't

1161
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 2: seen it yet, but I can't.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the perfect summer show You're gonna love.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait, and I want to read all the

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00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: Should I read the books first? Though?

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 2: Because I do love to read, So I'm wondering, like,

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Speaker 2: should I watch and then read?

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00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: I will discourage you from reading first, but I will

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00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: say I would maybe watch it because then the book

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: you'll kind of know where the story goes, and there

1170
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: might be some spoilers, got it? So maybe I just

1171
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: watch and then. But what I will say is, why

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00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: don't you watch this season and then read the next

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: book which takes Pasey. Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Perfect, Great, I'll start. I'll start first with watching, then

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Speaker 2: I'll read the.

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Speaker 1: Next time and then read Meet Me at the Leak.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, good plan.

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Speaker 2: I've got so much more to talk to Alicia about,

1179
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: including her time on one of my favorite shows to

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01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,640
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01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,240
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