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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Cowboys have a bye week. Tim Callishaw never

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Speaker 1: does Dallas Morning news columnist and Starve around the horn

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Speaker 1: and he joins us on the program. Wow, we got

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Speaker 1: good things to talk about, don't we. Oh my, this

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Speaker 1: is unusual. This is unusual for us. Last time around

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Speaker 1: was this high in Dallas? Was Oh? Well, at twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: the eleven game winning streak, Dak and Zeke as rookies,

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Speaker 1: the sky was the limit. They had found their future.

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Speaker 1: And here we are five years later waiting for this

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Speaker 1: team to capitalize on Dak and Zeke being here. They

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Speaker 1: kind of got sideways for a few years and didn't

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Speaker 1: really take advantage of it. But the excitement around that

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Speaker 1: team this year, while Dak and Zeke are obviously still here,

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Speaker 1: that digs that you already mentioned, you know, ceedee lamb.

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Speaker 1: The younger players are what make people think. Even Randy

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Speaker 1: some different stars here and maybe this will be different.

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Speaker 1: What are your concerns? Well, it starts with the head

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Speaker 1: coach is unfair, you know, and I've been maybe overly

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Speaker 1: hard shot him here and some of the things people

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Speaker 1: got on him for yesterday didn't really bother me. It

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Speaker 1: made sense to kick the field goal that he missed

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Speaker 1: Zeroline missed. You know, he went for it early fourth

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Speaker 1: and one that their own what thirty five. That's unconventional

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Speaker 1: that we've been screaming for coaches to pay attention to

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Speaker 1: these analytics and say, if you've got a good offense

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Speaker 1: and they have a great one, you can make a yard,

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't hunt the ball away. And they didn't make

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Speaker 1: the yard and so it didn't look good and that

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Speaker 1: kind of energized the Patriots when they scored three plays

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Speaker 1: after that. Josh McDaniels called his best three plays he

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Speaker 1: had and they're running tricks and next thing they're in

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Speaker 1: the end zone, and you know that kind of kept

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Speaker 1: him afloat for the day. But McCarthy is a concern,

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Speaker 1: I think. And you know, the defense is still although

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Speaker 1: they're making the interceptions in some of the plays and

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Speaker 1: yesterday they're not playing against a great offense, they still

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Speaker 1: give up stuff. I mean, look at the look at

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Speaker 1: the play they gave up to almost lose the game.

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Speaker 1: So you got to you gotta still be a little

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Speaker 1: leery of that. Yeah, I'm with you with McCarthy. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think they should have gone for it on the

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Speaker 1: for the fourth down when they needed a yard late

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Speaker 1: in the game. He calls a time out that helped

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Yeah, his misunderstanding of the clock continues to

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Speaker 1: baffle all of us. You call a time out if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go for it. Yeah, he called a time

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Speaker 1: out and kicked a field goal, So then you're giving

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Speaker 1: a team time. No, the Patriots didn't happen to do

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Speaker 1: anything with it, but the clock management has been an

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Speaker 1: ongoing thing. The thing about the fourth and one early

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Speaker 1: that you can say, look, you don't need to take

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Speaker 1: that risk. You're a much better team than New England.

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Speaker 1: Don't give them the ball at your own thirty four. Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I just think they're a little cocky and they

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Speaker 1: and and it bit him. Yeah. In that offensive line

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Speaker 1: there were holes that were unbelievable. That's why I thought

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Speaker 1: that and keep the clock going. It just surprised. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had run Zeke on third and one, and look,

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Speaker 1: it looks like Zeke's gonna get it, and somebody comes

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Speaker 1: his back arm. They made a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: they gained the Patriots by more than two hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty yards. That was a weird game to watch, to say,

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Speaker 1: how do they not have this game put away? And

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Speaker 1: then obviously they almost lost it the penalties to penalties. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a sloppy game. They got a bye week

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Speaker 1: coming up. I'm sure the players are thinking about that,

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Speaker 1: Let's get an easy win over the Patriots and go

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Speaker 1: for a few days off. And so they didn't play

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Speaker 1: their best, but they did. They did Ceedee Lamb was

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Speaker 1: and one. You start to look at that division and

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Speaker 1: the next three years. You know, the Giants are going

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Speaker 1: to be in a rebuild. They're going to need a

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Speaker 1: Quon Barkley won't be there. The Eagles are going to

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Speaker 1: football team on and off the field. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is a great position, a great window for the next

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Speaker 1: three years. You would think for the Cowboys. I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about that this morning. They could be going to

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Speaker 1: get three different quarterbacks next year, as early as next year.

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. You would think, Danny Dimes, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: he looks okay, I don't know if I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm ready to pull the plug on him. But

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Speaker 1: that's a mess of a team in New York and Washington.

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Speaker 1: You're right, they don't have their quarterback. And they know that.

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Speaker 1: They knew that when they brought in you know, fitz Magic.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's they're gonna win the divison. Cowboys gonna

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Speaker 1: win the division by five games or at six, And

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Speaker 1: because they got four more games against those teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: a team the Cowboys lost to that could still hurt him,

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Speaker 1: but they're in that competition. When did you realize or

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Speaker 1: when did the Cowboys realize they had something special in

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Dink's I think they knew last year. I don't

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Speaker 1: need me to do? I'll be your best quarterback quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and and man, he just started making plays this year.

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Speaker 1: And I thought it was funny that he got beat

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. You know, we've written all these things

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Speaker 1: and said these things about Everson Walls and his first

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Speaker 1: two years he had eleven interceptions. That's the most in

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Speaker 1: the last forty years. And then he had seven in

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Speaker 1: a strike season. They were only whenever there were twelve games,

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Speaker 1: maybe nine games. Very that was a short strike season

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. And but Everson got beat a lot.

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Speaker 1: Everson took a lot of chances. Diggs hasn't been beaten

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Speaker 1: Everson Walls. He just ran one back for he just

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Speaker 1: I remember Everson Walls would gamble and then he would

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Speaker 1: player who's led the interceptions three times because they kept throwing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: morale is high, look at you. Yeah, Ras, Ravs Hawks Thursday, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Luca and Trey, here we go. Yeah, MVP favorites. No.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that's what people said. That's what I

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Speaker 1: was told. That's missus. How about Texas Longhorn? Oh no,

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Speaker 1: don't think so. By the way, I know you do.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a zoom call and those listening on radio

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Speaker 1: don't realize that whatever the picture is behind you gives

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Speaker 1: you devil's horns and you should probably change that picture. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you you look like you have you're the devil, and

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Speaker 1: I know, be like the old devil before I came

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Speaker 1: out of the gentleman kept going slide a little right there.

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Speaker 1: So the big german, my director did this, he sent

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Speaker 1: you up. Yes, yeah, you have appropriate. That's the way

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Speaker 1: half your audience sees the Cowboys in that light. Fans

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Speaker 1: love them, half of them think this is holacious, that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are good again and they're gonna be obnoxious again.

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Speaker 1: How's Jerry Jones been? Is Jerry even more confident hockey?

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Speaker 1: He's been almost a little low key for him? Well,

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Speaker 1: definitely low key for him. Uh yeah, I mean I think,

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Speaker 1: good and he's not. Really He's kind of just got

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Speaker 1: gonna end that this year. Have you been in his

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Speaker 1: haven't standing invitation to go in there. What if you

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Speaker 1: going for a ride on the boat one time. I

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Speaker 1: you know, logan roy and successive, you know, something like that,

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Speaker 1: the deck. Yeah. Great, to talk to you again, Tim.

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Speaker 1: Are you on around the hall tonight? I'm on today

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Speaker 1: and tomorrow that there's got to be win number five

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Speaker 1: And I think I've been in kind of a malaise

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Speaker 1: since then. I haven't really put it together. I lost

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Speaker 1: last week the Mina Kimes in a showdown. I lost

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Speaker 1: to sarah' spain. I just I'm not I'm not closing,

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Speaker 1: I'm not finishing. I'm the Dodgers. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, is anybody gonna catch Woody Page

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Speaker 1: on around the horn? Well, he's got over six hundred.

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Speaker 1: I would have to stay on for seven more years.

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Speaker 1: That's not in my planet. And I'm sure that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: What do you sort of, Jerry Rice, you're Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll be I'm friends with Larry. I'll

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Speaker 1: take that. I'll be the guy who grinds away, the

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Speaker 1: guy who hands the ball to the ref and as

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Speaker 1: he after he scores a touchdown, just doing my job.

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Speaker 1: Of course you are. Thank you. I'm always great to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you. Change the background there, change your horns.

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Speaker 1: It's not even hookum horns. It isn't. Thank you, Tim.

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Speaker 1: Talking to me and it Kimes, the analyst, senior writer,

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Speaker 1: So that means the Bills will lose tonight? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: basketball all the time, but it's more about the stories

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Speaker 1: about what made these people love their sport and all

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Speaker 1: the interesting interactions along the way. We talked to coaches,

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Speaker 1: we talked to players, We tell you stories. He downloaded.

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Speaker 1: He listened to it. I think you like it. Listen

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Speaker 1: to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or ever you get your podcast. Before we

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Speaker 1: get to Carson Palmer, wanted to play this for you

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Speaker 1: and Carson. Here's Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach, talking

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Speaker 1: about Jared Goff after the loss to the Bengals. I

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Speaker 1: feel like he needs to step up more than he has,

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Speaker 1: and I think he I think he needs to help us,

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Speaker 1: you know, just like everybody else. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna need to put a little bit of

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Speaker 1: weight on his shoulders here and it's time to step

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Speaker 1: up and make some throws and do some things. But

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Speaker 1: he needs help. He needs help. It's bringing Carson Palmer,

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Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback. How would you respond to that if

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Speaker 1: you're Jared Goff when your coach says that after a loss? Well,

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Speaker 1: when when Jared was a young quarterback and just kind

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Speaker 1: of getting into the game and figuring things out like

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Speaker 1: I was, you learn at a very young age playing

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Speaker 1: this position that when you win, you're the hero, when

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Speaker 1: you lose, you're the bum. And there's too much put

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Speaker 1: on you when you win, and there's too much put

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Speaker 1: on you when you lose. But I think the most

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Speaker 1: important thing that he said it was at the very

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Speaker 1: end when he said he needs help. Because he needs help.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they can't stop anybody on the defense. Offensive

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Speaker 1: line has been an issue. They don't really have many

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Speaker 1: playmakers behind him in the running back position or outside

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Speaker 1: of him at the wide receiver spot. So when you lose,

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Speaker 1: things get get heaped on you. But there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff needs some help. Have you ever been called

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Speaker 1: out by your coach in a press conference? Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it happened all the time. I mean most times when

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Speaker 1: you lose, they say the quarterback needs to play better.

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Speaker 1: And obviously I think jar Jared be the first to

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Speaker 1: tell you he needs to play better. But there's no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with his skill set, he needs help. He

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Speaker 1: needs playmakers around him because he don't have very many.

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Speaker 1: Explain to me, the Chargers got all this love last

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Speaker 1: week and then they go to Baltimore and that was

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Speaker 1: not an inspiring effort. Like, as much as we should

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Speaker 1: compliment the ravens Lamar Jackson in their defense, but the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: it felt like Okay, let's see what you got national stage,

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Speaker 1: and they did not produce. Why they're not quite there yet.

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Speaker 1: They're not completely ready to be one of the premier

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Speaker 1: teams in the AFC. They've got some really nice, nice

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Speaker 1: things about them. They got there, a good young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: they got a boast of rother down there. On the

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Speaker 1: defensive line, Durwin James is an animal on the back

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Speaker 1: end a defensive back. You know, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, are you ready to you know, all the

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Speaker 1: hype you've been getting as a Charger, are you ready

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Speaker 1: to go into Baltimore and one of the most hostile

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Speaker 1: environments and put out and show out and improve that

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Speaker 1: you deserve to be talked about as one of the

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Speaker 1: better teams in the AFC. They answer that question for us.

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Speaker 1: They went to Baltimore and got blown out. They're not

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Speaker 1: quite there yet, but I'm not giving up on that team.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to watch them. How they respond this

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Speaker 1: week is really telling of what kind of team that is,

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Speaker 1: what kind of leadership they have, and who their head coaches.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals go to Cleveland. It banged up Cleveland team, but

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Speaker 1: they they dominated them. That doesn't feel like everybody's all

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Speaker 1: in on the Cardinals. Yet what do you think is

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Speaker 1: the big reason why there's a holdout? Well, it's it's then,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's the opposite of what we just said

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Speaker 1: about about the Chargers. Can you go into Baltimore and win? Well,

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Speaker 1: can you know, can the Cardinals, a foreign O team

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Speaker 1: go out east and go into Ohio and beat the Browns?

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Speaker 1: And they beat them decisively? It wasn't close. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that team was beat up. But the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have heard all that kind of West Coast bias, all

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Speaker 1: the real teams out there on the East coast. They

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Speaker 1: went into the East Coast, went into Ohio and got

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Speaker 1: to win that. You know they should have won. They

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Speaker 1: were playing against a team that was beat up. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals were extremely healthy. So I mean, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing we just said about the Chargers. If

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Speaker 1: you're for real, Arizona, good Ohio, and leave no doubt

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Speaker 1: on the field who the best team is, and they

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Speaker 1: did that. They are for real. Everybody needs to respect

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Speaker 1: that team. They're five and oh for a reason. You

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Speaker 1: know that they haven't started off against some weak teams.

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Speaker 1: They beat some good teams, especially this last week going

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Speaker 1: into Cleveland, against the team you know is going to

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Speaker 1: run the ball, try to run the ball down your throat.

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Speaker 1: They went in there, they looked really good and they

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Speaker 1: looked like the best team in the league. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it feels like there's the NFC is top heavy. You

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Speaker 1: got five teams that are at least five and one.

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Speaker 1: You got the Cardinals being undefeated. Dallas wins put up

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Speaker 1: big numbers, but they allowed New England to take them

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Speaker 1: into overtime. What do you take away from Dallas's win?

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Speaker 1: A win is a win, especially when you go into

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Speaker 1: New England. I mean, yeah, we'd like to walk out with,

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Speaker 1: you know, a two or three score lead, but a

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Speaker 1: win is a win. The best team most of the

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Speaker 1: time at the end of the day, especially when you

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Speaker 1: go to overtime, finds a way to win. And I

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Speaker 1: don't care if it was close. I don't care how

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Speaker 1: many points they scored or how many points their defense

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Speaker 1: gave up. Ballast is for real. They've got a really

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Speaker 1: nice division for them. They're sitting in at a good

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Speaker 1: spot in a good division. I just think they are

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Speaker 1: for real and they're gonna make a run this year.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever find yourself in a competition within a

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Speaker 1: competition against that quarterback on the other team during a

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Speaker 1: game of matching them to do your partner, you know

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Speaker 1: the stats you tried not to but especially I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you're referring to Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: playing against each other former teammates at Oklahoma, but no doubt,

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Speaker 1: I mean, every quarterback wants to go in and throw

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Speaker 1: for a little bit more yards, have a little bit

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Speaker 1: higher completion percentage, and have a better QB rating. So

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Speaker 1: you can try to block that out, and you can

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Speaker 1: try to say, you know, it's just about our team

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Speaker 1: playing well and winning. But I think you know, at

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Speaker 1: the at the root of every competitive tussle between two teams,

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Speaker 1: I think down there deep, both those quarterbacks want to

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Speaker 1: have a better statistical day, without a doubt. But did

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Speaker 1: you find you did that when you faced Roethlisberger or

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Speaker 1: you've faced you know, whoever, Brady, whoever you were facing

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Speaker 1: on a regular base, semiregular basis. Absolutely, I would go

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, you know, hopefully after a win,

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Speaker 1: and I would get the stat sheet right before I

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Speaker 1: went into my press conference post game, and I would

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Speaker 1: just double check and see where numbers were so I

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Speaker 1: think it's pretty normal. I would I would assume just

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Speaker 1: about every quarterback in the league does that. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: can you did you ever have a great game in

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Speaker 1: a loss? Like can you can you separate what you

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Speaker 1: did as opposed to what your team did? No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, quarterbacks so the only position,

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Speaker 1: and really head coaches are the only guys that are

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Speaker 1: judged on wins and losses, not on how many tackles

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Speaker 1: they had or what their defense finished. You know, categorically,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, it's about wins and losses.

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Speaker 1: As a quarterback, you're judged, so you know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, what matters is the win. And

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Speaker 1: then after you get the win, you can, you know,

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Speaker 1: personally look at your own statistics and make sure that

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Speaker 1: that you had better numbers than your opponent. But it's

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Speaker 1: about the win, no doubt. What the hell happened to

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Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, But they're who they're who we thought

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Speaker 1: there were. I mean, a lot of people got you know,

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Speaker 1: jumped on the bandwagon, got excited about that team, got

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Speaker 1: excited about Brian Flores, and you know he's the first

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Speaker 1: you know, Bill Belichick understudy to go on and have success.

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Speaker 1: He hadn't had success yet. I mean that that team

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Speaker 1: was really sexy preseason because they had all the draft picks,

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Speaker 1: they had all the cap space. They're still not a

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Speaker 1: very good football team. You know, they got a gift

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Speaker 1: win against New England, and now they've lost five in

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Speaker 1: a row, and then you lose to Jacksonville in London

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Speaker 1: and they don't have their first round pick. Philadelphia has that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a tough situation to be and

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Speaker 1: then I don't even know if they're all in on

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Speaker 1: Tua because they're right, they're not. Yeah, they're simply not.

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Speaker 1: I mean they thought that Deshaun Watson trade, I think

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Speaker 1: it looks like it, and it seems like everything was

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Speaker 1: pointing towards them being able to acquire DeShawn this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't happen because of all the off the

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Speaker 1: field stuff going on in Deshawn's life. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they realized pretty early on that that Ta

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Speaker 1: might not be the right guy. That's why you saw

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick playing early on and now you're seeing some

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Speaker 1: real struggles. So I think that Deshaun Watson trade they

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Speaker 1: were eyeing that they were hoping that happened. It didn't.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that they can have all the first

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Speaker 1: round picks and they can have all the cap room,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't have your your QB of the future,

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Speaker 1: then you're still going to be constantly looking for him

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Speaker 1: and wanting him, trying to trade for and trying to

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Speaker 1: draft him, whatever it may be in the future of Miami.

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Speaker 1: But I just don't see two of being the guy

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Speaker 1: their long term. He's Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback who

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Speaker 1: joins us every Monday. The difference between college and pros.

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Speaker 1: We hear this a lot. In college, you throw to

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Speaker 1: the guy who's open. In the pros, you have to

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Speaker 1: throw a guy open. Explain that difference and how long

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Speaker 1: did it take for you to be able to understand

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Speaker 1: that concept. Yeah. In college mean you have the ability

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Speaker 1: to sit back and wait for a receiver to get

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Speaker 1: open and then throw it so that the receiver, once

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Speaker 1: he gets the top of his route and breaks in

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Speaker 1: or out, can get his eyes back to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and see the ball coming at him. That's because in college,

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Speaker 1: most guys in the back end run four or five

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Speaker 1: to four six forty r dash and so when you

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Speaker 1: get to the NFL, just about everybody on the back

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Speaker 1: end runs four three to four four, which means all

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Speaker 1: of those windows are smaller. The ball can't be in

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Speaker 1: the air for longer, for very much longer, because defensive

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Speaker 1: are closing on it. So you have to know that

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Speaker 1: your receivers getting up to ten yards and he's breaking in,

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Speaker 1: and you need to throw that ball when he's about

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Speaker 1: seven or eight yards, pass the line of scrimmage into

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Speaker 1: his route so that when he rounds those last two

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Speaker 1: yards and is coming in, he will not see the

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Speaker 1: ball come off your fingertips. He will turn his head

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback and the ball will be about halfway

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Speaker 1: to him. In the NFL, and in college, you know

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Speaker 1: that that small difference in a forty yard dashtime means

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Speaker 1: those windows close extremely fast and guys are only open

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Speaker 1: for really a very short period of time. And in

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Speaker 1: college you see, you know, you watch to Oklahoma play,

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Speaker 1: you see guys running, you know, wide open, butt naked

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Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. You just do not

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Speaker 1: see that at the NFL level. That's the difference between

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Speaker 1: when you have guys that run four three in college

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Speaker 1: and you're playing against guys that run four six. Once

638
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: you get to the NFL, everybody's running four three four four.

639
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: So those windows and those button naked receivers aren't running

640
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: wide open down the middle of the field. That's just

641
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: a that's a football term, right, butt naked but naked. Yeah.

642
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: Every coach uses it. Oh they do. You can use

643
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: it too, Daniel. Okay, all right, So give me another

644
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: term I haven't heard. Uh, that's clean. No, that's a

645
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: tough one. What do you mean that's clean, that's you know,

646
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: family friendly. Yeah, but like I'm assuming this is disney Ish.

647
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: Aren't we on ESPN Disney? No, we're not. No, we're not.

648
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: We're not on We're on Pea but Peacock. There you go,

649
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: butt naked open um or or from peak Peacock. Can

650
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: I say wide ass open? Yeah? You can't? You sure

651
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: that works too? I think that's a show on Peacock

652
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: White ass open yeah. Um. You know, you start to

653
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: look at Dak Prescott and you come off that injury

654
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: and we talked out about this before where you can't

655
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: think about the injury, and it seems like he's pretty

656
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: comfortable in whatever. I don't like him throwing fifty times

657
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: it feels like they're a whole better when they run

658
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: more than they pass. But what did you make a

659
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I think he's throwing the ball better than

660
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I've seen him throw the ball in the first five

661
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: years of his career. He threw on the run, working

662
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: his way up to the line of scrimmage, a high

663
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: angle corner route that was one of the most beautiful

664
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: balls I've seen throw. This season, you're not seeing any

665
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: lingering issues in his or his confidence in any lingering

666
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: issues confidence wise and stepping up in the pocket and

667
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: moving around. I've seen him break numerous tackles. He's not,

668
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, gingerly moving around. You know, he's not overly concerned.

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00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: You can tell. You know, as you know year one

670
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: post surgery, there's always going to be naturally some some

671
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: things holding you back. But as far as when he

672
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: hits the grass and it's Sunday, he looks really confident

673
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: in the stability of his leg, he looks really confident

674
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: in the guys around him. He's playing with a smile

675
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: on his face. I Mean, there's no more pressure than

676
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: a quarter backs playing under than Dak Prescott and Dallas

677
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. So I mean he just looks he

678
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: just looks back. He looks healthy. It's really fun to watch.

679
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: Did people taunt like this, this whole taunting rule and

680
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: how players respond did did players? Did you ever taunt

681
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: when you were in the NFL? Not really? I mean

682
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: it was talking trash. You know that The fun part

683
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: of talking trash is they're trying to kind of wipe

684
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: that off the game. You know, you think back to

685
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: like one of my favorite players to watch ever was

686
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers would only be moving backwards if

687
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: he were playing in today's game. I mean, he talked

688
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: more than anybody, and I guess you can call it taunted,

689
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: but it was just talking trash and it was part

690
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: of the game. It was fun back in my day.

691
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Chad Johnson, Chad Ochocinco sent a box of

692
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: pepto bismol to Cleveland before we were playing Cleveland. He

693
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: sent us the deep is that taunting? Can you get?

694
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Can you get a fifteen yard penalty? On Thursday? He

695
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: sent up to bismol, the to the Cleveland Browns. It's

696
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: just getting out of control. What's Philip Rivers saying on

697
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: the field? It's all clean I've never heard from Curse,

698
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: have yet to hear him curse. But he's just having fun.

699
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the game. You're allowed to talk.

700
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: You used to be allowed to talk. You know. There

701
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: was always um some rising going back and forth, and

702
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: now it looks like it feels like they're trying to

703
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: get rid of it. But I don't, I don't think.

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00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I think. I think Philip would have a number of

705
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: fines going into weeks as it's six now week seven.

706
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: But so he would just say, you know, you can't

707
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: stop us, or you know you can't you know, gosh,

708
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: dang it, you can't sack me, or yeah, or don't

709
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: try to bring that will free safety blitz on me

710
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: and he throws it the other way for a touchdown.

711
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: To me, he was always constantly talking and that's what

712
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: got him going, and it pissed off guys on the

713
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: other side of the ball. But that's just that's the

714
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: way that I grew up playing football. In the game.

715
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: I knew today's game, they're just trying to get rid

716
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: of it, and it is what it is, okay, But

717
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: when a guy sacks you and he stands over you

718
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: and then walks over you, like that always bothered me.

719
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: That's where I want to like reach my hand up

720
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: and you know, hit you in the groin if you

721
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: step over me, did you. Yeah, that's that's really disrespectful.

722
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you're getting into being

723
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: a respectful player by you know, I don't think there's

724
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: anything disrespectful about talking trash. But when you stand over

725
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: a player or spike the ball in their face, or

726
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: do the Alan iverson Tyrone Lou where he walked over

727
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 1: him after he hit that three pointer like that, that's

728
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: starting to cross the line of being disrespectful. I think

729
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to get out of the way

730
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: and get out of the game. Unfortunately, when the league

731
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: decides to get rid of something, they decide to get

732
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: rid of it entirely, so you're not allowed to talk

733
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: to any other you know, any other player in the

734
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: field that's not one of your team members. They're just

735
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: trying to wipe it out of the game. Unfortunately. Great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you as always, Carson, Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Dan,