1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: Hig and everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Up, Up, Up, where the 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Cloud's going a clear audition as the Bengals look to 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: bounce back from two straight road losses and knock off 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: the high scoring Detroit Lions at pay Core Stadium. Coming 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Up Team captain Orlando Brown Junior shares his message to 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: teammates after two tough losses. Brian Baldinger from the NFL 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Network describes what the Bengals will need to do on 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: Sunday to knock off Detroit, and in this week's Know 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: the Faux segment, we'll head two Detroit and check in 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: with the host of the Lockdown Lions podcast, Matt Derry. 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corp, 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: proud to be the Bengals official HR software provider, by 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber future proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fan. 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Orlando, let's start with 33 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: your role as a captain and a veteran leader on 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: this team. What's the message to your teammates after two 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: tough weeks? 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's always hard in this league, man, 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: losing games no matter when they happen, how they happen, 38 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: back to back. But the message is simple, man, we 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: got to keep fighting. We got a lot to play for. 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: I've been in a much worser spots than this, believe 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: it or not, man, But being in this position, being 42 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: able to have a chance to go out here and 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: win in front of these fans is what's important. 44 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: So that's what we'll be starving for. 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: We scored thirty one points in the Jacksonville win, but 46 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, it's been hard getting 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: the ball into the end zone. Where does fixing the 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: offense start? 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: I think it always starts in the trenches. 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: Man. 51 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's on us to create those opportunities for 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 2: our offense, man, no matter what it is. And that's 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: just my opinion, you know, I think it really comes 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: down to us handling businessman, and being able to create 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: bigger holes in the run game, hold on to our 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: blocks longer in the pass game, whatever it takes. 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: You've got the highest grade among the offensive lineman according 58 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus on the team, your one spot 59 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: behind Tristan Wurfs for what that's worth as a left tackle. 60 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: But how do you feel about your play? I know 61 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: you have very high standards for yourself. 62 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, man, I mean, you know, the Minnesota game 63 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: was one of my rougher games I think I've had 64 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: as a bangle. But other than that, other than that, 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I've done a pretty good job, 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, making sure that you know, guys like you know, 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: the Josh Allen Hines when we played him, he doesn't 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: have a big impact on the game, Nick Benito when 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: he's on my side, making sure he doesn't have a 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: big impact on the game. 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: You know. 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: But there are so many other areas that I'm continuing 73 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: to improve, like my run game, finishing more, being more violent, 74 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: and helping us create those explosive plays. But you know, overall, man, 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: the wait that I see it hasn't been enough for 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: us to win. And you know, that's what it comes 77 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: down to me, you know, just me playing playing as 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: good as I need to for us to win as 79 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: many games and score as many points as possible. 80 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: We're chatting with Orlando brown Junior. If you take away 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: a couple of Jake Browning scrambles last week, iveraged four 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: yards of carry on twelve runs. It's improvement. Did you 83 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: see positive steps? 84 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: I did? 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: I did, Man, I've seen guys finishing, I've seen guys 86 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: getting to the second level and you know, staying connected 87 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: to their blocks. I saw Chase being able to not 88 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: get touched about three or four yards into his run. 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: So we got to continue to create more of those 90 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: opportunities when they call our number up front. 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: Two rookies started on the offensive line last week. That'll 92 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: be the case again this week against Detroit. Last week 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: was a primetime game in Denver against the top ranked 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: pass rush in the NFL. How challenging is that for 95 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: a couple of rookies. 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: Extremely challenging, man, But I think they answered the bill man. 97 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: You know, we've got two great guys, two great young men, 98 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: and Jalen Rivers and Dylan Fairchild. They've come in from 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: day one and done all the right things and earn 100 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: this opportunity to be the guys at those positions in 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: my opinion, so man, we hold them to a high standard, 102 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: they hold themselves to a higher standard, and in my opinion, 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: they're doing great jobs. 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: You didn't just say good players, you said two great 105 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: young men. Does that stand out to you about Dylan 106 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: and Jalen? 107 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: It does? It does? 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: Manager Sarah upbringing. So I think show in their everyday 109 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: consistency of character, their attention to detail, their work ethic, 110 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: all the all of the right things. 111 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: You have a new offensive line coach this year in 112 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: Scott Peters. His system is different from his predecessor, Frank Pollack. 113 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: Are there some growing pains when the change is that significant? 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: Definitely, man. 115 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: I think there's new techniques that have to be learned, 116 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: you know, even some new run concepts we've been running 117 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: this year that we're still I think getting a little 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: bit of a better feel for. 119 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, there definitely are. 120 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: You've been a mentor to the other tackle a Marius 121 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Mims from day one. He's still only twenty two years old. 122 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: What are you saying in a Marius at this stage 123 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: of his second season. 124 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, man, I think he's doing a really good job. 125 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: Man's he's only gotten better from last year in my opinion, 126 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: and he's going to continue to get better. You know, 127 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: he's got a great mindset, man, coming to work every 128 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: day being the same person, working, working his tail off 129 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: to get better, you know, working to get his full 130 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: work right, his timing right off the snap, all the 131 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: right things. 132 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Man. 133 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: So I'm excited. I believe it's a season goes on, 134 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: He's only going to get better. 135 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Orlando, you face the highest scoring team in the league 136 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: this week in Detroit. It's hard for me to picture 137 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: thirteen to ten win. It probably has to be something 138 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: more like Week two when you beat Jacksonville thirty one 139 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: to twenty seven. Because of that, do you feel imperative 140 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: to score on almost every possession when you're out there? 141 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: Uh? 142 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: You know, I don't ever want to put, you know, 143 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: crazy pressure on us, but I do believe that's our 144 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: mentality offensively, no matter who we're playing, is we got it. 145 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna go score evers're off you know, because we 146 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: want to and because we can. So it doesn't really 147 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: matter who we're playing. I believe we approach it all 148 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: the same. 149 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: You've won your only home game so far this year 150 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: against Jacksonville. Is it going to help the offense overall 151 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: and the offensive line in particular to not have to 152 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: deal with crazy crowd noise by opposing fans? Obviously you'll 153 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: have it on your side this week, but in this game. 154 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, man, it helps up front. 155 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: I mean just being able to be on a verbal cadence, 156 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, it helps with getting your os, your defender, 157 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: all those different things. 158 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: At the beginning of the interview, you said I've been 159 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: through worse. 160 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: What was worse, man? 161 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean I've been in some tough spots, man, where 162 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: you know, we get off to a good, good run 163 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: to start the season and you know we're I think 164 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: by week five, I mean we're pretty much one in four. 165 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: So I've been in those positions before. Man, I've been 166 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: alling for I believe before, you know. So, like I said, 167 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: it's it's all about perspective. It's all about just continuing 168 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: to strive, knowing, understanding the expectation and standard that we 169 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: set in our building and being able to strive for 170 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: that and continue to grow. 171 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time, best of luck this week. 172 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate you. 173 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Subpower performances in Minnesota and Denver turned the Bengals into 174 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: a significant home underdog this week, and Zach Taylor says 175 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: that's fine with him. 176 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 5: I love personally playing playing these types of games. These 177 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 5: are my favorite games to play. This is why we 178 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: do it again. Our backs against the wall a little 179 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 5: bit going in this game off of two losses. 180 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: That's perfect. 181 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: You know, I'd like to see Howard By responds. Who 182 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: lives in fear, who thrives in the university. It's it's 183 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: a great opportunity for a coach to really assess what 184 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 5: you guys are made of, myself included, and so again 185 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: it's a tremendous opportunity that we are not running from 186 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 5: where we are running directly into. 187 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: It's certainly good to be back at home, where the 188 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Bengals have won seven of their last eight, including this 189 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: year's only home game so far, the Week two victory 190 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: over Jacksonville. Sunday's game will be televised on Fox, and 191 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: there will also be on national radio broadcast. One of 192 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: our favorites, we'll call the game on national radio this week. 193 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: I'm speaking of the NFL networks. Brian Baaldinger, Baldy, what's 194 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: job won for the Bengals this week as they try 195 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: to get back on track. 196 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta start with protection. I mean, Jay Detroit 197 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 6: is a good offense, really good offense. They're back on track, 198 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 6: and so you're going to have to get on track 199 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 6: offensively too, which you couldn't do Monday night in Denver. 200 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 7: A lot of circumstances there about the protection of Jay. 201 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: So it can at least get to his third step, 202 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 6: get to his fifth step, be able to set and 203 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 6: be able to get the ball to you know, to 204 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 6: to those wideouts, to Jamar and to Tea and you 205 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 6: know Yosi whoever. But I mean, I think protection is 206 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 6: going to be paramount. I mean there is Aiden Hutchinson 207 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: over there. You got to have a game plan for him. 208 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 6: He can wreck your offense. He has done that two 209 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: weeks in a row now to other teams. And so 210 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 6: you know, you got to know where ninety seven is 211 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 6: out at old times. 212 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: You played in the NFL for more than a decade. 213 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: It's an emotional roller coaster. If you're a captain or 214 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: a Bengals team leader this week, what's your message after 215 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of games. 216 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 7: Well, you got to put you got to put money 217 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 7: night behind you. It's a short week. You got to travel. 218 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 6: I mean all that stuff you know doesn't sit with 219 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 6: people that like, you know, a nice schedule, you know, 220 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 6: a weekly schedule that that's gone. 221 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 7: So you got to flush that. I mean, if you Trey, 222 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 7: you Jamar, you know you're zeus. 223 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 6: I mean you got to get focused because this is 224 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 6: a good football team come to town and they got things. 225 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 6: They got the ship right, and they've got great playmakers. 226 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 6: You've got to lock in you got to play the 227 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 6: home crowd. You're in the jungle. You know, you've got 228 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 6: to win your home games, and so you've got to 229 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 6: flush that thing and get it out of your system 230 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 6: and recharge here for this week, because honestly, Dan, it's 231 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 6: a week to weekly you know, I mean, nobody thought 232 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 6: Cleveland could beat Green Bay and you know nobody saw that, 233 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 6: you know, the Giants beating the charge. I mean, this 234 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 6: is week to week, and so why can't it be 235 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 6: week to week and put that disaster of. 236 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 7: Money night behind you? 237 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 6: And really, because you know, honestly, Detroit, you could beat Detroit. 238 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: And if you do, now you're three and two and 239 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 6: you're saying, hey, you know what, we just beat a 240 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 6: good team, and so then you start to get that 241 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 6: confident feeling back. 242 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the offensive line in a little more detail. 243 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Since the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one, they've devoted 244 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of resources to try to improve it. They've 245 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: signed free agents like Orlando Brown Junior and Ted Carris. 246 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: They used their first round pick last year on a 247 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: Marius Mims. They have not been able to turn it 248 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: into a strength. That was your position? What do you 249 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: think how should they approach it going forward. 250 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 6: Look, Joe's had injuries before, and I don't know if 251 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 6: you could put that on the offensive line, you know, 252 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 6: he's that that's a horrible injury what he suffered. And 253 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 6: when you got to have surgery, Uh, that's unfortunate. But 254 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 6: I mean, I I think you just keep you keep 255 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 6: trying to develop players, Dan, You keep trying to find 256 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 6: guys that are rejecting from other teams. 257 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 7: You gotta you gotta, you gotta draft in, you gotta develop. 258 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 6: You got to hit free agency, all right, Ted, you know, 259 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 6: zeus whatever, and then you've got to develop. You know, 260 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 6: your draft picks, and they drafted a lot of guys, Dan, 261 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: there aren't on that team anymore, you know, over the 262 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 6: last three or four years, and so draft to develop 263 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 6: and then you know, give those guys a chance to grow, 264 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 6: you know, and we haven't really seen much of that 265 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 6: so far. 266 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: When Jake filled in for Joe two years ago, he 267 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: played extremely well. He obviously led the Bengals to a 268 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: great comeback in Week two and they beat the Jags 269 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: at pay Corpse Stadium. Last couple of weeks have not 270 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: gone well. But what do you think of Jake Browning 271 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: as a backup QB. 272 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 6: Well, I mean he's got the advantage that he's been 273 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 6: there for I don't know, four years, whatever it is now, Dan, 274 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: you know, so he knows the system, he knows what 275 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 6: Zach wants, he knows what the plays are, he knows 276 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 6: where to go with the ball. You know, he's just 277 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 6: you know, the turnovers are never going to be a 278 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 6: good thing for any quarterback. But you can't play with fear. 279 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 6: You can't play out of fear. You still have to 280 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 6: be aggressive. You've got receivers that you got to trust 281 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 6: that can go get it, and they've got two of 282 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 6: the best. 283 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 7: They're being paid to be the best. So I think 284 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 7: there's other ways. 285 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 6: I mean, if you just watch Denvers offense the other day, 286 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 6: like they score two touchdowns as easy as you can. 287 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 7: Score, Dan, I mean a fly sweep and you pick 288 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 7: up a block on. 289 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 6: The outside, you hit him against a blitzero and you 290 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 6: got the right play on you know. Some of it 291 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 6: is just a play call too, and the timing of 292 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 6: the play call against certain looks. 293 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: You have called Jamar Chase the best wide receiver in 294 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: the NFL. What separates Jamar from the pack. 295 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 6: I think if you put Jamar at tailback. He'd be 296 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 6: a great tailback, you know, I really do. I mean, 297 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 6: be an elite tailback. Like he's so strong. He catches 298 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: everything with his hands. Fundamentally, he comes back to the football. 299 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 6: He doesn't give the defenders a chance. 300 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 7: He is great with contested catches. 301 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: He's going to see you know, uh, he just saw 302 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 6: Sertane a little bit last week. I don't know what 303 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 6: Detroit's plan is. They've struggled at the corner position. But 304 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: you know, against the great corners he can win. He 305 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 6: can win in the deep ball, he can win on 306 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 6: the old you know, West Coast style of offense DN 307 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 6: where he short passes long runs. We've seen him do everything. Uh, 308 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,359 Speaker 6: and so you know, his game against you know, Jacksonville 309 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 6: was you know, you know, it's it's what, it's what. 310 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 7: Only a couple of guys in this league. We saw 311 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 7: Puka Duhl last week. 312 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 6: There's only a couple guys in Lincoln do what he 313 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 6: did against Jacksonville in winning that game. 314 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: The Bengals defense bald features nine top one hundred draft 315 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: picks that were taken in the last four years. These 316 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: young guys are getting a lot of playing time now 317 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: have any of these young defenders caught your eye, Well. 318 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 6: I mean Osim made a couple of plays the other day. 319 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 6: I mean we keep waiting for him. I mean he 320 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 6: was a high pick out of Texas. Keep waiting on 321 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 6: him to come around right now. You know, the number 322 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: one pick missed all a training camp and so like 323 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 6: he's learning this. It's it's tough for any rookie just 324 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 6: you know the stats as well as anybody Dan, but 325 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 6: most rookies struggle their first year. Look at what Nick 326 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 6: Benito is doing now versus what he did his first 327 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 6: year come out of Oklahoma. It's literally on the job 328 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 6: training every day, and you can't spend enough time around 329 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 6: Trey or other veterans that understand what that's all about 330 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 6: right now, So we got to give you know, the 331 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 6: rookie linebacker chance here, you know, to kind of you know, 332 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: see these formations and the motions and you know, get 333 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 6: his eyes in the right place. You know, he's got 334 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 6: a good veter next to him that can help them. 335 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Lions. They come to town leading 336 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: the NFL and scoring at thirty four points a game. 337 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: That's despite losing their offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, who is 338 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: now the head coach of the Bears. What can a 339 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: defense do to try to slow down Detroit. 340 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 6: Well, the first thing you got to do, Dan, honestly 341 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 6: is you've got to stop the explosives, you know, and 342 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 6: the run in pass because Jamiir Gibbs can score from anywhere. 343 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 6: But you know, I say that, and then you see 344 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: David Montgomery go for seventy a couple of weeks ago. 345 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 6: You know, I've never seen David Montgomery on seventy yards 346 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 6: in a game. And I go back to his high 347 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: school in Ohio, you know, but I've never seen him 348 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 6: at Iowa State ever do that. 349 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 7: So you got to stop the explosive. 350 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: And then you know Jameson Williams can score from anywhere, 351 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 6: so those and they're going to try and hit those. 352 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 6: Johnny Morton will call those plays up. So you've got 353 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 6: to limit the explosives number one. And then you've got 354 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 6: to find ways to get GoF off the spot. If 355 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 6: you let Jared Goff, he is a he's a surgeon 356 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 6: back there. If you let him stay on that spot 357 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 6: and read defenses and find his outlets, he's going to 358 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 6: have a good day. 359 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 7: So you got to get quick pressure to Jared Goff. 360 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Detroit is thirty two and ten playoff game since the 361 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: start of twenty twenty three. Dan Campbell's built a heck 362 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: of a team in Detroit. You're going to be in 363 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: the radio booth on Sunday. Give us a formula for 364 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: how the Bengals come away with a victory at home. 365 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 7: Well, I think they got to hit their explosives. 366 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 6: I mean, look, you just paid two wide receivers a 367 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 6: boatload of money to go win games. And honestly, Dan, 368 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 6: your stars win games, and those are your stars, So 369 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 6: you got to find ways to get you know, Jamar, 370 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 6: because you know, I think they're going to bench Terry 371 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: and Arnold this week. I mean, he was their first 372 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 6: round pick. He has not played well. He's had a 373 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 6: lot of penalties and a lot of penalties last year. 374 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: So their's secondary while they have had a lot of takeaways, 375 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 6: especially you know at the safety position, they're vulnerable out there, 376 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 6: and so take your shots, take your go balls, you know, 377 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 6: against with t and Jamar and hit them. 378 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 7: I mean that's that's the start. And then I think, 379 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 7: you know, anytime you got. 380 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 6: A guy like Aiden Hutchinson on the other side, like 381 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 6: you've got to make them play the run as much 382 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 6: as you can. Now they've they've added a lot of beef, 383 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 6: you know, Tyler Williams, They've had a lot of beef 384 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 6: in the middle. But you know, I'd like to see 385 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 6: the run game get going. Well, you have a little 386 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 6: bit of balance, a little bit of play action there 387 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 6: on offense right now, and play some keep away you 388 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 6: know from Jared Goff in that offense right now. 389 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: Paul, do you appreciate your time and your expertise as always, 390 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: enjoy your trip to Cincinnati this weekend. 391 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 6: I will look forward to seeing you and my trip 392 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 6: to the John. If you remember, Dan, last year, Week five, 393 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 6: Baltimore came to town and I mean you were up ten 394 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter. He lost the game, but it 395 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 6: was the Jungle was rocking that day, and there's a 396 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 6: lot of good things that happened that day. Joe played fantastic, 397 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 6: Jamar was fantastic. They lost to you know, Lamar to shootout, 398 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: but that was that was one of the more fun 399 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 6: games I announced all year last year. 400 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Well, hope for a similar atmosphere with a different outcome 401 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: this Sunday. 402 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 7: That's it, Dan. 403 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps, 404 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: Proud to be the Bengals Official HR software provider, by 405 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Alta Fiber future Proof Fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, 406 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: and community to a new level, and by Kettering Health 407 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: the best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is 408 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Bengals. So here come 409 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, a team that went fifteen and two 410 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: last year, earned the number one seed in the playoffs 411 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC, but lost at home to Washington in 412 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: that first playoff game forty five thirty one due to 413 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: a defense that was decimated by injuries. The Lions opened 414 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: this season with a fourteen point loss in Green Bay, 415 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: but they've won three in a row since and averaged 416 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: forty one points in those wins. Matt Derry is the 417 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: host of the Lockdown Lions podcast, and he discussed the 418 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: team with Dave Lapham and me on the Bengals Game 419 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: Plan Show. 420 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: They're really on a roll, right and how they look 421 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 4: good opening week? You know, you take a lot, you 422 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 4: take nothing out of the tason and really training camp 423 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: because a lot of the regulars weren't out there and 424 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 4: they looked rusty and they looked unprepared for Week one 425 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 4: in Green Bay, and they got exposed and played really poorly, 426 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: really at all three phases since then, the last three games, 427 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 4: the Bears at home Baltimore for a big Monday Night, 428 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 4: went on the road, and then last weekend taking care 429 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: of the Browns at home. The Lions looked like the Lions. 430 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: They looked like a team that is destined to get 431 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: back to the NFC Championship. It's fundamentals with them, Dave. 432 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: You know this blocking and tackling. They've won up front 433 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 4: with their O line, their D lines the last three 434 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: weeks dominated the Ravens in that department, and then did 435 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: the same with the Browns this week, kept Jared Goff clean, 436 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: no sacks from Miles Garrett and at Brown's front, and 437 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: then they feel very good about themselves at three and one. 438 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: Right now, you mentioned the offensive line, let me ask 439 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: you about the right tackle. Back in twenty twenty one, 440 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: there was something of a civil war here in Cincinnati 441 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: leading to the draft. Should the Bengals take Jamar Chase 442 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: or Piney Sewell, Bengals are obviously happy with the guy 443 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: they took. Jamar has been tremendous but the Lions are 444 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: happy with the guy they took as well. Do you 445 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: think panay Sewell is the best offensive lineman in the NFL? 446 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: You know, Dan, I think he's the best right tackle 447 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: in the game. I mean that I can say. I 448 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: mean there's some very good old linemen out there, and 449 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: obviously a Tristan Wurfs is out there. And you know 450 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: there's a guy with the Chargers right now that I 451 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: would love. But if he's not he's not healthy. Right now, 452 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: there's plenty of good ones. You know, Creed Humphrey in 453 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: Kansas City is so good. But Piney Soul, to me 454 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 4: is the best right tackle in the game. 455 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: Uh. 456 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: PFF had him two weeks ago against the Ravens grated 457 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 4: out near in one hundred, which is almost unheard of. 458 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: Uh he's been dominating. Uh he can move. He's throwing 459 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: guys around and and and then getting back up and 460 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 4: blocking down the field. And he's just been so good. 461 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: Like I said, helping helping to neutralized Miles gear At 462 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 4: last week was a big win and keeping golf clean. 463 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: And look, it's a great debate. You can still debate 464 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: it to this day with jamar versus pine Sui get 465 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 4: two of the best guys in the entire league. But 466 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: Lions love with it what they have in their right tackle. 467 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: He signed long term and and he's helping the guys 468 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: in the interior of that offensive line. You know, he's 469 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 4: got a rookie next him at right guard and Tate 470 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: rat Legend can only make him better, and that makes 471 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: Graham Glasgow better, and that makes Taylor Decker better and 472 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 4: Christian Mahiney the left guard. Soule's you know, he's a 473 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: tone setter man, and love watching him against Trey Hendrickson 474 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 4: this week. That'll be a lot of fun. 475 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 8: That leads me to your head coach, Dan Campbell. That 476 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 8: dude is a tone setter in terms of I think 477 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 8: a leader of men. How important has Dan Campbell been. 478 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 8: I mean a losing record year one, but none ever since. 479 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, five hundred or better, that's what 480 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 8: you get with Dan Campbell. How important has he been 481 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 8: to the success of Alliance? 482 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 4: He's changed the culture with the Lions. He and Brad 483 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: Holmes a general manager. But really, the Detroit Sports needed 484 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell. They really did in a time where I 485 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: mean now that they said the Tigers in the playoffs 486 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: Pistons made the playoffs last year. Red Winnings have struggled 487 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: now for a decade. But the Lions, it was this 488 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: time for them to finally turn the corner and turn 489 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: the page. And this guy has come in and just 490 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: he's the face of this city. And this offseason he 491 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: heard Dave all those whispers about uh oh, Ben Johnson's gone, 492 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn has gone. You lose your two coordinators, you're 493 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 4: all pro center retires and Frank Ragnow what are they 494 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 4: gonna do? How are they gonna work around? This is 495 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 4: Green Bay gonna catch him, This is Minnesota gonna catch him. Hey, 496 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: the Bears are on fire in the offseason. They win 497 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: the off season every year. There the Bears of the 498 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 4: offseason champs every year. So what are they gonna do? 499 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 4: And what Dan Campbell did was just he told the guys, 500 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: let's just do what we do, and that is you're right, 501 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 4: hit people in the mouth and be physical and utilize 502 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: the weapons that they have. And all of a sudden, 503 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: now John Morton looks like a pretty darn good OC 504 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: four games in replacing Ben Johnson and Kelvin Shepard's defense 505 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: has two of the top ten edge rushers. According to PFF, 506 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 4: in the league right now in Hutchinson and Alcade, Mohammad 507 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: so Dan Kimpbell's has kept the ship steady. It's next 508 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: man up when guys get hurt. DJ Reid's gonna be 509 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: off this week their best corner. So you gotta figure 510 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 4: guys like Meek Robertson and Khalil Dorsey step up and 511 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: they get the confidence of their coach that they'll do okay. 512 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: And so far as three wins out of four is 513 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: not ben No. 514 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Matt Dary is the host of the Lockdown Lyons podcast. Matt, 515 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: we were talking a little bit earlier in the show 516 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: about Jared Goff. Seems like he is rarely mentioned among 517 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: the best five or six quarterbacks in the NFL. I'm 518 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: not sure why that's the case. Lions led the NFL 519 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: in scoring last year when he was the Rams quarterback. 520 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: They led the NFL in scoring in one of his seasons. 521 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: Should he be mentioned at the very top of the pedestal? 522 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean number one, but among the top four 523 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: or five in your opinion. 524 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 4: I mean he's right up there. I mean I understand 525 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: why guys like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and what 526 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: do you have in Cincinnati with Joe Burr, So get 527 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: more play just because they move around. They're a little 528 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: bit younger than Jared is now in his thirties, and 529 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: there's a little bit more sex appeal with some of 530 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 4: these other guys in terms of what they can do 531 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: outside of the pocket. And I get it. Jared Goff 532 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: was basically, you know, sent packing by Sean McVeigh and 533 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: an offensive guru and told you're not good enough. And 534 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: then they go get Matthew Stafford in that trade with 535 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: the Lions and they win the Super Bowl right away. 536 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 4: So that's a tough narrative to have to kind of bust. 537 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: And yet Gough has done it. I mean, he's won 538 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 4: more playoff games here than any Lion's quarterback probably since 539 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: Bobby Lane. And he's so steady. Like you said, the 540 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: guys love him. It helps him. They got a good 541 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 4: run game and a good offensive line, but he's got 542 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 4: to be throwing at a precision type rate and he does, 543 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: and his receivers love him. And yes, I think when 544 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 4: you talk in top five, top seven, eight, Yeah, there's 545 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: any lists you see that's have a top ten in it. 546 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: And Goff's not in there. That's not there. I mean 547 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 4: he's been he's helped right the ship here and he's 548 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: been so solid and rarely makes a mistake. Now you 549 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: get some pressure on him, especially up the middle, sure 550 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 4: he'll he'll he'll throw it to the other team. But 551 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 4: that's with every quarterback. But so far, like I said, 552 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: edn't Ben sacked the last three weeks. That's been real key. 553 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 8: So Matt Dan Campbell, how has he evolved? 554 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: I mean, the guys have the utmost confidence in him, 555 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: and like I said, he's a lot more creative, especially 556 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 4: on the offensive side, in helping game plan with John Morton. 557 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: He did it with Ben Johnson the last couple of years. 558 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: Uh. 559 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: And he's making good decisions because he's putting the right 560 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 4: he's putting the guys. It's all us that right right person, 561 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: right seat mentality. He knows you know when to go 562 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 4: for it on fourth downs. And everybody just thinks that 563 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 4: the lines automatically always go for on fourth downs. It's 564 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 4: not the case. But it's it's smart, it's calculated. He 565 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: puts the players in the right positions. This offseason, he 566 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: made a move with Hank Fraley the offensive line coach 567 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 4: was interviewing for other jobs to become offensive coordinator other 568 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: places and and Campbell told him go talk to other teams, 569 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 4: do it, see if you can better your situation, but 570 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: allowed Hain't Frailey to stay, made him an assistant head 571 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 4: coach and has a lot of faith that maybe he 572 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: can lean on a guy like that this is the 573 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: old line coach, but also on some game planning during 574 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 4: the week. So the assistants love him, the players love him, 575 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: and as far as evolving goes, I think he just 576 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: puts the guys in the right positions and lets them 577 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: do their thing. He lets Tared Goff change playing that 578 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: plays the line of scrimmage he's got. He handed the 579 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 4: green dot on the defensive side this week, not this 580 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: week this season to Jack Campbell, who's just a second 581 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: year linebacker. But he put him in that spot and 582 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: said told Alexanderloni he's more of a veteran. Hey, I'm 583 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 4: giving Jack this opportunity, and everybody bought in. It's not 584 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 4: like that in every locker room. Dave, you know that. 585 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: Matt dari is the host of the Locked On Lions podcast. 586 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: My final question Matt has to do with Week one, 587 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: the only time the Lions have lost so far this year. 588 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay held him to thirteen points, which seems almost 589 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: impossible against this offense. What did the Packers do defensively 590 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: that helped them slow down this great attack? 591 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll say this. I just thought that in Week 592 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: one the Lions interior of their offensive line looked like 593 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 4: guys that hadn't played together, and quite honestly, they hadn't. 594 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: You're talking about a brand new left guard in Christian Mahogany, 595 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: you only started two games last year. Graham Glasgow takes 596 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: over at center, hadn't played center in the league in 597 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: a couple of years when he was in Denver, and 598 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 4: did so in Detroit, but that was of a whole 599 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: different team outside of Taylor Decker, and then the right 600 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: guards are rookie and Tate Ratlage. I think the Packers 601 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 4: loaded the box a little bit and showed a lot 602 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 4: of things on the interior and the Lions communication in 603 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: terms of picking up blitzers or sliding protections over to 604 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: a left or right side just weren't there, and so 605 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 4: the Lions never got in sync, and a lot of 606 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 4: it was what the looks of that Jeff Hathley defense 607 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 4: were I don't know if Cincinnati can emulate that. Baltimore tried, 608 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 4: it didn't work. They couldn't get to golf. The Browns 609 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: tried this week with Jim Schwartz, who's a heck of 610 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator. You guys saw him week one, and 611 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: it just didn't work. So I just think the Lions 612 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: has played poorly, that special teams are bad. That day, 613 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: everything was bad. And since they've just they've turned it 614 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: around and you know, they're just playing clean football. And 615 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 4: I know you guys, uh, you know had to sit 616 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 4: through what you sat through Monday night with all the penalties. 617 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: That's the other Lions have have been clean in terms 618 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 4: of the penalties, and it helps you. 619 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 8: Win there the fans and the fans are a big 620 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 8: part of it. The fans support is as good in 621 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 8: Detroit as it is anywhere any city in the National 622 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 8: Football League, and the Detroit Lion fans take great pride 623 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 8: in that. Does the organization in the community. Do they 624 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 8: feel like this is a Super Bowl contender? 625 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: Not after Week one? They but but I think the 626 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 4: last three weeks people are back. Not that they jumped 627 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 4: off the bandwagon. It was one game. But I think 628 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: people look and see this team now and see the 629 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: depth that's there, see what's there in the NFC, and 630 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: go absolutely lap they can win this thing and get 631 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,719 Speaker 4: to the and get to the super Bowl. There. They 632 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 4: are good enough. They got to stay healthy, certainly, and 633 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: you gotta have Aiden Hutchinson out there healthy. That's a 634 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: guy this weekend that should rereak some havoc. And you 635 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: mentioned the fans, Dan and Dave. Get ready, there's going 636 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: to be a ton of Honolulu blue you in your stadium. 637 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: It's not a knock on Bengals. It's not a knock 638 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 4: on Bengals fans or people not showing up. The Lion 639 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 4: fans of the last couple of years have traveled like 640 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: no other. And they were in Indie last year and 641 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: invaded Lucas Oil. And that's a dry from Detroit to 642 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: Indian Detroit to Cinci. No, No, it's not too hard. 643 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 4: You're going to see a lot of Lion fans this weekend. 644 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: All right, Thanks to mad Darien, here's a quick invitation 645 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: to join lapp in me for the Bengals pep rally 646 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: show this week. We'll be at the on the Rhine 647 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: Eatery on the second floor above the downtown Kroger on 648 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Friday from three to six, and our special guest in 649 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: the final hour will be cornerback Josh fig Newton. 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