WEBVTT - Draft Show: Standouts From Pro Day Visits

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>on your war room for insider news and draft analysis

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<v Speaker 1>from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your

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<v Speaker 1>hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have the Draft show, and we're taking it outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Rare for us, rare for us to get out here.

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<v Speaker 1>It is beautiful out here. It's nice to see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks standing outside here and at the various

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants on the balcony. We're at the entertainment district here

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<v Speaker 1>the Star at on Cowboy Way. I'm excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of nice. It's nice to get outside because

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<v Speaker 1>the draft will be here, and how much the draft

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<v Speaker 1>will be now we'll be here at the Star and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the activity be over at at and T.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, it's nice to kind of do something a

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<v Speaker 1>little different. It's one of the big reasons the draft

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<v Speaker 1>is so great because it brings spring back, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the warm weather, and it's one of the reasons the

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<v Speaker 1>draft so much fun. That is that is an angle

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<v Speaker 1>I had not thought of because I'm not from Ohio.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where I'm from, it's warm most of the

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<v Speaker 1>year instead of like climbing out of the single digits

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<v Speaker 1>around April. Yeah, it is well, very happy to be

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<v Speaker 1>out here. We're on the same stage where Pat Green,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Legend will be performing to night in front of

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd at seven thirty to night. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a all weekend event too, So this is the first

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<v Speaker 1>night and this thing will go all the way through

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<v Speaker 1>April first, so make sure you come out and check out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we we eat these restaurants quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy all the food and entertainment and stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>the Star has to offer. But speaking of being entertained,

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<v Speaker 1>Dane Burgler, David Hellman and I hit a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>Pro days this week. We got to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Texas and then to Texas A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>With the two that we did, I put him in

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<v Speaker 1>reversal order there, but the two big pro days there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was it was interesting to see these players

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<v Speaker 1>live the workouts, and you know, we've always talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how important Pro days were, and you know, we came

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<v Speaker 1>away with I mean I know I did, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to figure out something about with Connor Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and at the University of Texas. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to Christian Kirk because that was the one that

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M because he I've got questions about

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<v Speaker 1>him too, though, But I'm trying to figure out where

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<v Speaker 1>teams would see Connor Williams. I mean, you know your

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<v Speaker 1>evaluations that you have. You know he's a tackle. Can

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<v Speaker 1>he play guard? I'll tell you what. Yesterday the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>worked him as a center, So I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>just and David loves it when I make that. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>make this, hey, nobody, you got excited about it wrong

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<v Speaker 1>when nobody loves the workout more than me. When you

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<v Speaker 1>see what these coaches do with these guys, But where

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<v Speaker 1>do you see Connor Williams has kind of become a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a forgotten guy when we start talking

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the other tackles, guards and stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft. And we talked about right before. You watched

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<v Speaker 1>the two and sixteen tape his sophomore year in All

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<v Speaker 1>American season for the Longhorns, you saw a future left

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<v Speaker 1>tackle in the NFL. You watched this year, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, you have some reservations. You think about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>inside and guard. It's gonna be split among the We

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<v Speaker 1>talk to different people around the league, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see a guard, so we're gonna see a tackle. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three inch arms. That's kind of the cutoff right for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of teams in terms of of arm length

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<v Speaker 1>for the outside the edges playing tackle position. You talked

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<v Speaker 1>to different teams, You're gonna get different answers, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad to see that he worked out at center. If

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna show your versatile it's only gonna help your

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<v Speaker 1>cause on draft day. So I think Connor Williams has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to go in the first round, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what the team is looking for, if they want to

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<v Speaker 1>guard a tackle, how they view him. But the more

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<v Speaker 1>he can do, the better. So good to see that

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<v Speaker 1>he worked out across the different positions. At the Prode

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<v Speaker 1>David and the Posts workout interview, he kind of offered

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<v Speaker 1>that he's visiting with the Cowboys. Yeah, which this is

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<v Speaker 1>It's always a funny line to try to designate with

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<v Speaker 1>these local guys. Malik Jefferson and Connor Williams both they

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<v Speaker 1>both plan on visiting with the Cowboys, but they're both

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<v Speaker 1>local kids, right, So I think Connor said his visual

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<v Speaker 1>his visit was official, but it doesn't seem like it

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<v Speaker 1>makes a ton of sense to have to bring a

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<v Speaker 1>guy from Capelle in on an official visit. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>when you, I mean he can come up here whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to, since he's from the metropolitan area. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Malik Jefferson said. He's got a thirty visit planned

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<v Speaker 1>with another team on Dallas Day, which is the local

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<v Speaker 1>prospect right here in a week, so he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>set something else up because again, he can come whenever

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<v Speaker 1>he wants. So I'm not one hundred percent confident that

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<v Speaker 1>those guys fall on the thirty list, but I am

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<v Speaker 1>confident that they will both be up here meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>the staff, you know, between now and the draft. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing that I was driving at here is

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<v Speaker 1>is this team looking at Connor Williams to potentially be

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<v Speaker 1>a pick at nineteen. I think if you're turning over

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<v Speaker 1>every stone, you'd be dumb not to look. And I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched all this tape. I'm not the experts that

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are, but look at him yesterday. I was very impressed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said this while we were you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>were working on a video that we're doing our staff here,

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<v Speaker 1>not comparing their level of play. I'm not saying he's

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<v Speaker 1>an all pro, but Connor Williams reminded me of Tyrn

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<v Speaker 1>Smith in terms of his build. His build he looks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he looks you know you think of like a big,

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<v Speaker 1>sloppy offensive line. Yeah, this is not that guy. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a streamlined athlete. Like doesn't look like there's an

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of fat on him. He's fluid, he's quick, he's athletic. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he could play all five positions on the line,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if Tyrant could do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, like, I just was so impressed by

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<v Speaker 1>his workout and and how athletic and quick he looked.

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<v Speaker 1>I he's a bendy guy. Yeah, I mean you want Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing they did was they got him down

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<v Speaker 1>into like almost like a catcher stance where you put

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<v Speaker 1>your heels flat and then you bend your back, keep

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<v Speaker 1>your back straight and ben straight down from the knees,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ones that can't do it end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>caught forward and easy. It's like the coach said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just try and put your rear on the floor and

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<v Speaker 1>he went straight down and then he sat there and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like going, my gosh, and in his hips too,

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<v Speaker 1>like why he's opening his hips and showing how well

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<v Speaker 1>he like the same thing. Yeah, that's the first line

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<v Speaker 1>of my report. Flexible knees joins the sit in his

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<v Speaker 1>stance and maintain balance. And that's the biggest thing for

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman because the guys that can't sync their hips

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<v Speaker 1>right and dropped their hips to anchor, they're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a tough time versus NFL pass rushers. And I only

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams has a problem with that. My biggest issue

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<v Speaker 1>with him is opening his chest to defenders getting inside.

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<v Speaker 1>So he needs him work on the technique with his

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<v Speaker 1>hands right. But from an athletic standpoint, it's all there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to derail you, Brian, But can I

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<v Speaker 1>can I lead us in a thought exercise real quick?

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<v Speaker 1>If we're investigating and educating and if the point of

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<v Speaker 1>the draft is to have an open mind. Talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about maybe Lyle Collins moving to guard something they

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<v Speaker 1>see fit. All right, you look at what are some

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<v Speaker 1>tackles you could draft in the first round. I think McGlinchey. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you draft Connor Williams. Maybe you draft him with

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<v Speaker 1>an eye on being a developmental swing tackle in his

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<v Speaker 1>rookie year, and he could be a tackle of the future.

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<v Speaker 1>If you move Lyle to guard, you could have him

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<v Speaker 1>ease into the right tackle role or maybe even play

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle if he's up to it, if you know,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what the future holds for Tyrant Smith. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're telling me they're looking at tackles, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>super surprised, then I'm not gonna say I would love it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could at least understand why they might be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in Connor Williams in that range. Yeah. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>crazy for thinking that? No? I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we've kind of talked about that. I know Dane

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<v Speaker 1>would not entertain draft in a car. We know how

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<v Speaker 1>Dane feels, Dan, Dan, would you feel different if it

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<v Speaker 1>was drafted as a tackle? Um, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>tough discussion because you're not drafting necessarily a starter unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna move lay all inside, right, So there's some

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<v Speaker 1>debate going on there about what's the best move about

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<v Speaker 1>the best five on the field. Sure, I'd be open

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<v Speaker 1>to it, but I want a defensive playmaker. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with Dane, but again, in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the interesting, you can't rule it out open mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And well not only that, but sure you talking about

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<v Speaker 1>drafting a Roquan Smith to not necessarily be a starter,

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<v Speaker 1>but to supplement your linebacker corps him and Jalen working

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<v Speaker 1>together or what happened to Like I said, you could

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<v Speaker 1>move Violet a guard and not even start Connor Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>You could start Cam Fleming for a year and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got four more years of Connor Williams as a

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<v Speaker 1>starter in the future, if that's the way he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Regardless about the tackle guard debate and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>is Connor Williams worth a nineteenth pick in your opinion, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he is. I do, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that Connor Williams is a guy that I

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<v Speaker 1>look at him, and after that workout yesterday I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had you know, I'm with you on the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen tape. The seventeen tape was a nightmare for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking I'm sitting here thinking, man, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>was a productive high school player, he was a productive

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<v Speaker 1>college player. Everything kind of lines up for him is

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<v Speaker 1>coming in here and having success, much like or with

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<v Speaker 1>any team. I'm not just talking the cow was sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, the nineteen yes, much like much like Harold

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<v Speaker 1>Landry up at Boston College. Though what injury had a

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<v Speaker 1>big part to do with connor Ways struggles in twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like he forgot how to play. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that last time we met and had the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Dane was talking about throwing names at nineteen. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm doing. I'm throwing a name at nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>that we we really haven't talked a whole lot about

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams being a name at nineteen, which do we

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<v Speaker 1>know was weight from yesterday to wants to play at

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<v Speaker 1>three oh five. He wants to play at three oh five.

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<v Speaker 1>That's his ideal. But Dave's right, man. Physically, he just

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<v Speaker 1>looks and you think about what he could do in

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<v Speaker 1>this scheme where it is about movement, it's about second

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<v Speaker 1>level blocks, it's about getting outside, you know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of things. So I'm like, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys said, Okay, look again, I'm all about

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get this thing to how many names can

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<v Speaker 1>we get at nineteen? How many different options can we get?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the way that the Cowboys are going

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<v Speaker 1>to these workouts, they're trying to get as many names

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<v Speaker 1>as they can, and they're gonna narrow this thing down

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<v Speaker 1>when they start their draft meetings on April ninth. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when they're gonna that's when the board, the stack, all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff is going to be set. And that's and

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<v Speaker 1>as many names as they've got to go with. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you want options there, and they it might even

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<v Speaker 1>allow them to say, well, heck, we could trade back

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<v Speaker 1>two or three spots. That's a great point. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what That's what I was asking you guys last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the range for Roquan Smith? You guys gave me

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<v Speaker 1>great answers on that. Where's the range on Derwin James?

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<v Speaker 1>Great answers on that? And I think the range on

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, Yeah, probably eighteen to thirty two? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I think that maybe maybe twenty four. The Saints

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<v Speaker 1>worked him out and there are twenty seven, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>is what they're at now. So you know, twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>twenties somewhere right there, suit to me. And they lost

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<v Speaker 1>the right tackle, by the way, the ram check Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>but he but yeah, but ram check left tackle. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy put him at the right tackle. Yeah yeah, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't no, don't don't know. But no, you're right, Dane,

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<v Speaker 1>You're right there. But I just kind of I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to think of I'm looking at range, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>right if everyone needs more offensive line helps, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what if what if someone? If it was somebody? What

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<v Speaker 1>if one of the quarterbacks is still there at nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>lamar jack? What if it? Now you're talking about somebody

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<v Speaker 1>trading up from the back end? Okay, who are you

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable going down? Now? I mean I always yell at

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<v Speaker 1>you guys about Dave. Don't give me more. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. But maybe maybe when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at guys like Connor Williams, down for Connor Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>you could probably go down for DJ Moore. Yeah. Colton

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<v Speaker 1>Miller is gonna be in that discussion too, whether we

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that or not. Yeah, point that is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Colton Miller. That's a good point there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>To Dane's point, I would not love that pick. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not a knock on Connor Williams. It's just a knock

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<v Speaker 1>on what this team needs. Yeah, but he looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a first round player to me just watching him go

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<v Speaker 1>through his workout. I think the top two tackles in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft Mike McGlinchey from Notre Dame Honor Williams from Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think mcglinchey's the safer pick, right, Williams has the

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<v Speaker 1>higher upside, and I think I agree with you there.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with there. O'Neil was a guy initially from

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<v Speaker 1>pitt that kind of got my attention, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a drop off between that. I mean, I'm McGlinchey

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<v Speaker 1>Williams and then Okay, there's gonna be some drop off

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<v Speaker 1>there him Brown from Oklahoma. I mean, you're gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a team the other day that's at

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the draft that's interested in so, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on him. And a lot of people said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>terrible combine, will never be picked and all that. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a team that said, yeah, no, no, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>okay with this guy. Yeah, you're okay. Hey, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>trust the tape on him. Okay, we're gonna take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a break, and then we're gonna come

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty. I want to finish up too, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Texas defensive kids too, don't forget about and exactly

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<v Speaker 1>talk about them. And also I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk Is another guy. And then we'll also get through

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. We'll just yeah, we'll just keep We'll just

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<v Speaker 1>to get back into what we were talking about earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>This I want to flip it nowt to Christian Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, the position drills only for Christian Kirk.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Manziel threw him the football and hey, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have had a guy that put more on him. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny did a really nice job with that. But David

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a little bit of the what, well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me do this. I'll do what I did. I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I kind of said it. I'm gonna set it

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<v Speaker 1>for you here, all right. Dane talk about people think

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<v Speaker 1>about him slot receiver, right and they worked him outside

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit though. Talk about okay, transition where are

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<v Speaker 1>you on Christian Kurt Not so much the round or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that, but where are you on playing ability?

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<v Speaker 1>And what could he have to show you in a

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<v Speaker 1>workout in order to kind of maybe uh check boxes

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<v Speaker 1>for you or make you get a little bit more concerned. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a finally tuned athlete. I don't know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily as explosive as very quick, very very fair, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's actually does an actually job of handling his throttle,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, meaning he can get in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of his route breaks very efficiently, create his own space.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why he's so dangerous in the slot. The

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<v Speaker 1>big question on the outside can't he beat press? What

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<v Speaker 1>is he gonna do against big, physical defensive backs in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL who make contact strup the timing? Can he recover,

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<v Speaker 1>get open, separate? I think he's best in space, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he's best in the slot. Now, how did he

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<v Speaker 1>do during the workout when he did go on the outside? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we saw the routes were good. I

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<v Speaker 1>like the you know, the slant stuff might be a

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<v Speaker 1>little if he was playing against somebody in his face,

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<v Speaker 1>might be a little more difficult for him, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the further you remove him from the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the more trouble that he might have. Because again

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<v Speaker 1>there was stuff that he was trying to break on

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<v Speaker 1>inside and I was thinking, like get it to him, now,

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<v Speaker 1>get it, you know, because the further way was is

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<v Speaker 1>But then Manziel hits him on a deep ball, vertical

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<v Speaker 1>nine and stuff. So yeah, I see exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. I'm worried about him against the press. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where you can't simulate that in approach you can't. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I think that you know, the Cowboys and Calvalaro there,

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about that. Calvalaro is probably gonna stand over

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<v Speaker 1>him and just bang him all day and try and

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<v Speaker 1>let him release into these routes and see if he

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<v Speaker 1>can do it. But I thought he caught the football

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<v Speaker 1>very well. Yeah, I think I could say Manziell put

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<v Speaker 1>some good put some good ones on him and the people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's got a couple of visits, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about Arizona being one of them. That's his

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<v Speaker 1>home state. And then and he's also got Seattle, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are two teams ahead of the Cowboys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that are that are interested in in bringing him in

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<v Speaker 1>So I man, I have a hard time with him

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<v Speaker 1>as a first round player, I really really do. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I could see somebody, I mean, we laugh

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<v Speaker 1>about New England at thirty one? Is could that be

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<v Speaker 1>your slot player that you know that that that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>their guy, that type of a productive player. This uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this isn't a knock on him as an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>or as a football player, but Christian Kirk just scares me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that I mean certainly at nineteen and even at fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know, and it's ironic because I was

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about Connor Williams as at least an intriguing

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<v Speaker 1>option as like a project player. You wouldn't You wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>consider that at nineteen, would you. Well, I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not drafting a wide receiver to be a project for

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<v Speaker 1>this team. Right. If you're drafting an offensive lineman, you're

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<v Speaker 1>drafting him onto the strongest unit on your team, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can probably get away with giving him time to develop,

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<v Speaker 1>especially as much as you love D G. J. Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>Right If I'm well, just I love a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the receivers in this and if I'm drafting one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>I want results right away, right, and I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that's never a guarantee, but I want to give myself

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<v Speaker 1>the best possible bet. It scares me that Christian Kirk

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play a lot outside. It scares me. His dimensions

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<v Speaker 1>indicate that he might have a problem against the press,

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<v Speaker 1>all that type of stuff like It just it scares

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<v Speaker 1>me to think that he might not blossom into what

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<v Speaker 1>you want until year two or three. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>why this team's drafting a wide receiver, because if you

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<v Speaker 1>spend a big time asset on a receiver, we were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure that means there's some changes coming to your

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<v Speaker 1>receiver corps right well. And part of the appeal of

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<v Speaker 1>Kirk is special teams. What do you can do is

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<v Speaker 1>return man? Yea. And they worked on the Cowboys. They

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<v Speaker 1>were down there working him out. Though they worked him out,

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<v Speaker 1>set the special teams coach down there to watch him

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<v Speaker 1>catch butts. I'm not suggesting Ryan, there's an all pro.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have a return man, they have two capable

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<v Speaker 1>slot receivers. It just it doesn't fit for me. And

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<v Speaker 1>if he can if he can become more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>if he can become a dynamic receiver on the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>too awesome for him, but I don't trust that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen as quickly as I wanted to for

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<v Speaker 1>this team, and like something about him just puts me

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<v Speaker 1>off and that maybe that's more on me than him,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just how I feel about it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk is a great player. I just think he

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<v Speaker 1>has a low ceiling as an NFL player. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he has a high floor too, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to be a bust, right, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>confident in saying that, But I don't think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an all pro either. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>has that type of potential where he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a number one or he might not even be a

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<v Speaker 1>number two for your team, and that might be his

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<v Speaker 1>best role as that slot that underneath target and playing

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<v Speaker 1>the YU. It's where does where's the value of a

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<v Speaker 1>guy like that? In the draft? Right? In my ranking

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<v Speaker 1>sees number six among the wide receivers. Sure, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know a guy like Corton Sutton who doesn't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>the production or uh not as polished in some areas,

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.320
<v Speaker 1>but he has high upside to be a number one

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:06.879
<v Speaker 1>where Kirk doesn't have that. Did you hear what he

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:08.920
<v Speaker 1>ran today? Did he run or did he stay stay

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>on four? Five? Five? I didn't see it. I didn't see.

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to kind of and I ran into coach.

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I ran into Coach Garrett and he was walking around.

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, Rocky was running for governor here. He

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.480
<v Speaker 1>was talking everybody but me, But yeah, I was I

0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.520
<v Speaker 1>was kind of thinking that. You know, he rand four

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 1>or five five at the combine and I wondered he

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.240
<v Speaker 1>stayed on that time or they try to get him outdoors,

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, with the wind a little bit and maybe

0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:32.800
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit pick up some speed like that.

0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's focus a little bit on the defensive

0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:36.960
<v Speaker 1>players that you know where we talked about Dave for

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 1>the University of Texas. You know the guys where you

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>know we Jefferson before. I struggle with him a little

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 1>bit though the way, and I just give me a

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.640
<v Speaker 1>thumbnail on him, Dane and kind of how you you

0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>see him in this in this draft. It's a fantastic athlete. Uh,

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:59.200
<v Speaker 1>he's physical, contact driven, high character guy. The big worry

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 1>with Malik Jefferson, it's just the natural instincts. Yeah, he's

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>he's a guessers reacts first, then he thinks, and that'll

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>get him in trouble sometimes. So if you can simplify

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.439
<v Speaker 1>his reads, I think he's gonna be a quality player

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>for you. But again, he's very young in mind in

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>terms of what he sees and diagnosing it and reacting

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>in time, So you do worry about that because of that.

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna be our first round player.

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:27.199
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be somewhere on day two. But he

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>didn't run or he didn't do the forty right, No,

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>he did not stayed on his time which started four

0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>or five, five two as well or something like that.

0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.479
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he just kind of but the workout. It's

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>funny the Saints and the Bengals put him through the workout,

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was kind of thinking that I saw a

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit he smut an athlete, though. I saw a

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>guy with a little stiffness to him. Though you know

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 1>with some of the movement you can when he when

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he was lateral, it was a little bit like, come on, man,

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I've seen you. I've seen you go, I've seen you,

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>he mean, and it was like he was it was

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.159
<v Speaker 1>like he was fighting himself a little bit yesterday and

0:23:58.240 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that that was kind of a that was troubling to me.

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I was shuttles. He did shuttles, but it was like

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I think the time he didn't do him at the

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>combine and I was watching him do the shuttles. I'll

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you the drill that it got me was the

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>they put him through the bags. We had to move laterally,

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he was he was It was like

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to run and he was just it

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>was not as smooth as I've say. I mean, because

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you've seen him make plays where he's kind of seen

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>it and gone and been lateral and all that, and

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>then but those drills, I mean, I was like coach Nolan,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike Nolan did a great job of trying to move

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:32.719
<v Speaker 1>him around to make you and then they ran him

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>on a wheel route and he looked like he was

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>okay doing that in the coverage aspect of it, but man,

0:24:37.680 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it was just kind of up and down at yeah.

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And I was a good athlete and I was like, going,

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, I just I wanted to see more

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.160
<v Speaker 1>of that athletic ability from him. I just didn't see

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>it though. Talk about though, as well, Okay, Elliot, the

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>safety we've him Okay, watch another guy. We saw it.

0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean we saw a couple of safeties at A

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.439
<v Speaker 1>and M. I think it's funny that. I mean we

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 1>saw Elliott and or Watson. Elliott on back to back days,

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>by the way, or Watts he with the two ten. Yeah,

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>his his weight is. It's it's funny. He's going from

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 1>one ninety one Senior Senior Bowl to two ten and

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know two two two And I don't know

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>if somebody's telling him strong safety, bulk up, you know,

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know where that direction is going. But

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it's hurting how he's moving. I don't see. I didn't

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>see a guy that was really athletic. And when he

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.480
<v Speaker 1>when you watch him on tape, you know the things

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.960
<v Speaker 1>he could do. Who'll come forward, I'll hit you. We've

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about him a bunch, but I worry about him

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>putting on so much weight. Did he can't move at all?

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Stands out to you the most about Elliott. He talks

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>all the time. He does talk a lot. He's a

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>very encouraging guy. He's a he's a raw rock kind

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 1>of guy. He's very raw, raw. His teammates kind of

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like they look at him. And they kind of move away.

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh but he's a he's he's one of these interesting

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>discrepancy players, not unlike Malik Jefferson in my opinion, because

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 1>depending on you know, some people are like, oh, this

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>guy's gone by pick sixty, and some people are like,

0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 1>and you can get this guy in the fifth round.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, usually you hear more, uh, you hear

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.920
<v Speaker 1>more agreement more often than not, like most people kind

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of have the same idea, but you get some polarizing

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 1>opinions about this guy. Would you be surprised if Sean

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Elliott was taken on day two? Yeah, I would so,

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 1>because what's happened when you watch what game was that

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they ran right by him. I mean it was I'm

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to remember Picky, I know. Yeah, see that's what

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. That turned the deep speaks. He is a

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>stiff athlete, but I mean he almost ran me over.

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I got in the way on one of the drills

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>that it was kind of I was a little too

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>close to the drill. He had six picks, like I

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>got to get the intrigue. I get what I do.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 1>And but ball, because he does have ball skills. I

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>mean when he catches the ball he's got. You see

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the hands, I could see the hands, but man, the

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.200
<v Speaker 1>movement is just and then and then you're talking about

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the burst and all, I'm like, I don't see it.

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>And well, and most of his interceptions were not overthrows,

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>they were not him creating. No, he deserves credit. He

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>made the pick, he created, or he finished eternal. You

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 1>gotta give a guy a credit for finishing. Oh no, no, no, hey,

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>hey if the ball is going to him, hey, maybe

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 1>the balls gravitates tour. Maybe that's his bit. Yeah, right,

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I would be surprised if he's picked

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in day two. I really would be surprised. Fourth, fifth round,

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I think that. I'll tell you somebod I wouldn't be

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>surprised it's picking day two. That Poonaford. Yeah, that guy

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>right there. Five. Yeah, you were on him very early

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>about that. It's hard. It's hard not to with as

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.360
<v Speaker 1>good as he was him sounding the wide receiver. He's

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>found one and two combine snubs this year. You guys

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>sound like Rod Marinelli. It's like the orphan, like, oh,

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants him, we'll take him. Well, they see five

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>eleven and they he's not for everybody. Yeah, but when

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you're when you're a three hundred and twenty pound man,

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you take your shirt off and you do care and

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you're out there doing the drills. You're a self confident player.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>You identified with that, and you're like, that's what I

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>would look like. I was wanting to be him. I

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, I feel like taking off my

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>shirt scouting him, you know what I mean. But it

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 1>would have been a bad idea. Glad you didn't do that.

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>But no, I mean he I'll tell you what. The power,

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the explosiveness. I mean, I'm watching him go through those

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.160
<v Speaker 1>bags and I'm cheerleading for the guy. I mean, he's

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>slapping it those bags. Got that heavy bass to him.

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>He's knocking the bags all over the place, and I'm like, going,

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 1>get it big, Villa, just keep getting it big. But

0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of those. There's some those guys in

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this draft that way, those one technique short daddy players.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Stack him, stack him now, do it. Don't just say

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>South Florida. South Florida is my favorite short daddy guy. No,

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>where's poona poona? I got him. I got him in

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the third, third round. I got him the third round

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>Dans laughing at me right now, I think, no, Dane's

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>probably got him the fourth fifth, I got three to four. Yeah, okay,

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>who I feel a little bit better about that he's

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>having the three. It's I think I had him in

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the third coming out and not even I mean before

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I went into the workout. I had him there. So

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I just just it's one of those interesting conversations because

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>we all agree you should trust the tape, but like

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>then it comes to a point where where can you

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just not ignore the measurables? I mean, are you're really

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>going to draft a five ten and a half five

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>eleven d tackle in the top one hundred, Yeah, if

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you could attack the gap the way though. I never

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>understood the height, you know, not drafting player because he's shorter.

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Like if anything you're creating, you have a low natural

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>leverage the kid from South Florida, right, I don't understand

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>he's a lower guy as being a weakness. Yeah, you know,

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean I understand in length, I understand maybe not

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>being a wide body for an interior player, but for

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>being short. You know, I know Aaron Donald, He's not

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Donald. Right. When you have that natural leverage, you

0:29:49.960 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>get underneath blocks, play load of the ground. You're not

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna get moved out one guy. Yeah, you have some mobility.

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Cincinnati they worked him out. That's my team.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>You're so jealous, you know me? I yeah, I need

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to work for the Bengals. I'd say it every year.

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I got your boy lawsons, I got your boy mixing

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>or we're trying to get Dane a job and I

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta get him. I gotta get to Cincinnati so I

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>can get him a job. That's why. That's why. Butts

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 1>my team right there. They don't care. They don't care.

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>They draft, They don't look at measurable. They's draft good players.

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>That's all they do. That's all they do. You don't

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 1>think they have like, they don't have like a measurement.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>They don't care. They don't care. I mean, Dane is

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Dane would be on their staff. Give him logic and

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>then I'd be able to shut up Dane. We're gonna

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>draft this punaform. Speaking of players that Bengals probably like, Yeah,

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Holton Hill, Uh, there's another one. No. No, First of all,

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it's his workout one very good Dane. First

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>of all, I think it's a good sign that he

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>was able to work out of Texas. Yeah, he was

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>suspended and definitely towards the end of the season, he's

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 1>got him off field stuff. Just the fact that he

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was invited there and worked out. He said at his

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 1>interview after it was over that you know, it's all good.

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 1>He's got a great relationship with Herman and all the

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>guys down there. So yeah, I mean that's encouraging, you

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>know what. I was watching him work out, and I

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>was expecting him more of a more athlete because on

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the tape he will knock you out. He can tackling corner.

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>In this draft, that's that's a very first statement. I

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I don't want to talk about holding

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Hill because I want him to be sitting there like

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>pick one thirty seven, you know, like I like and

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I think they would take him. I don't know, I

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>since Bengals, would you write me would damn right? They would?

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, they might not. I mean, you

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>know that's been a that's been a non starter for

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>them in the past. Do you think about Marcus Peters

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>for a big difference between a guy with problems like

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that at sixteen and a guy with problems like that

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>at one thirty seven, So I would do it just

0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, his his tapes awesome, and yeah, whatever his

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>workout was lackluster, I don't care. His tapes awesome. Yeah.

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>It was kind of funny, Dame to watch him move

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 1>because on tape, you know, you do see a guy

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that's got that range, the ability to turn run open.

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And when they were doing stuff individually with him, he

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as smooth. It wasn't as it was a little

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>bit clunky the way he was trying to drive, and

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I was like, I was like,

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, your tape, your team's good. Keep you know,

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>getting cheerleading over there for the kids, almost getting hit

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in the couple of drills because I was too close. Yeah.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>They there are people on site at these pro days

0:32:09.000 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>that tell you where you're supposed to stand, and Brian

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>just ignores him. And he's like, oh, I'm fine, I'm fine,

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>thank you. I need to go here and scout, thank you.

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I know what I mean. That's the way nobody else

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>is within twenty yards of these workouts. And Brian's like

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>standing next to Jim has it like, yeah, Jim, make

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>him going around the back of Hey, Mike, Mike, turn

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>him a little bit this way, turn them to the left.

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to see him. I want to see him.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to seven explode off that foot. I'll tell

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you what. No pro days are good. I'm glad we

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>got to go. Speaking of pro days, as we get

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>through Cowboys, we saw Rod Marinelli leading a pro day Florida.

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>They are active, aren't they. How about my guy Tevin

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Bryan right there? Is that at nineteen. There is that

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>we're throwing that name in there at nineteen and then

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>then let's that's where're gonna have to draft him if

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 1>you want them. Yeah, he's talking to be there at

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>fifty year. We both okay, trade back, right we talk

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>about if we go back maybe at the end of

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the draft my mock draft right now, I haven't going

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:58.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty to the Lions. So you're not trading back if

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you want them. Just killed the dream of Tevin Bryan

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>right there. If you trade back and you can take

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>him at nineteen, yeah, you know, I don't there's a

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's gonna be taking ahead of you

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at nineteen, but he'll be there him or hearst rss

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>rated higher. But you know obviously, right, that's yeah. Again,

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be interpreted differently by thirty two different teams, right,

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>That's what I worry what their medical staffs tell them,

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the you know, input they're getting from the just different

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>medical opinions about the heart. Is it something long term

0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you worry about. It's it's something we can't really answer

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna be different from team to team. He's

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>a first round talent, there's no question, but we're still

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, TBA on him. If I told

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you they would take pain from Alabama at nineteen, what

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>would you say to that? I would just okay, that

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>would be okay, okay, very taco like no, no, I

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>liked and I even like taco. I'll wear that badge.

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I like taco more than y'all did. That's the way

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>great sport code today. Thank you that I look like

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a starget Pepper's Lonely Hearts cut band, a plate

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of tacos, So you look good man. Um, I wouldn't

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>hate that pick like I kind of break it down

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>into like hate it wouldn't hate it, love it, like

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>if they drafted pain and be like, all right, let

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>me hit him one more time with this one. Dane

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Banderish or pain Pain And how about you, young man?

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh getting the linebacker? I like Painting And they're both

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>I think they're closely rated on my board. Uh, they're

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:32.959
<v Speaker 1>both like in that late twenties range on my overall board.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I actually, well, and how about Brian or Vanderish? Still

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>probably Brian, just just just for and it's really more

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>about what that. Yeah, it's you know, you're playing of

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>the snaps, you're getting after the passer. Like I again, ideally,

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>ideally this linebacker that you're talking about drafting won't be

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 1>on the field that much hopefully. Yeah, that's the that's

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>the stated goals. So I'd much rather have Josie Jewel

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>at fifty, who can play a role but not necessarily

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>be the guy. And yeah, give me a guy who

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>can bulk up my past rush at nineteen. Dank I

0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>get Juliet fifty, I think so, Yeah, I think that

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>he'll be somewhere in that second round range. He's gonna

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 1>be that second tier of linebackers. So when we get

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>into day two and we start talking guys left on

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>our board, Josie Jewel will be a guy up on

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that board. I think band Rush won't be I think

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>he'll be taken in the first round and then I

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>think we reset the board the top linebackers. You're looking

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>at Josie Jewel, Uh, Fred Warner from b Y Yeah,

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Lee Jefferson Texas, Fred Warner. Give me one of these three. Yeah.

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Fred Warner got a visit from from our boys. I mean, like,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>like I said there, I mean it's pro Day. They

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>are active. I mean they went down. The whole staff

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>went down to Obama. Cavalaro went to an M to c. Kirk,

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>they were at at Provo. They went to see Marcus

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 1>daven Park, they went to see Taven Bryant. Like they're everywhere. Yeah,

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.320
<v Speaker 1>so that's not like act like these guys aren't scouting.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah No, everybody's like, oh, they're sitting at home doing nothing.

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>There Definitely they're scouting Fred Warner in the second round

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>or you might even be there in the third. I

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but it wouldn't be a bad pick. Say

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 1>say that Josie Jewel or a Warner at fifty. It

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>depends what you want. I mean Fred Warner is more

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of an outside guy. Yeah, he could cover Jewels more

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.319
<v Speaker 1>of your middle linebacker's Yeah, it depends what you want.

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>But I have warrener rated just ahead of Jewel on

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>my board. Give me give me a day two linebacker

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>who can be an understudy and contribute to the cause,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>but preferably not start, and let me address something that

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>really needs boosting more so at pick nineteen if I can.

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And if if if Sean Evans or Layton vander esh

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>is the pick, certainly if Roquan Smith is the pick, Yeah,

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with that. But there's things you could address

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>before linebacker that I think you can get away with it.

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, great job, guys, A nice segment. I appreciate that. Okay,

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I kind of went in past Twitter on the twenty. Well,

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.040
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0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.799
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0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.920
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0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:57.319
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<v Speaker 1>the twenty David Twitter, We're gonna start with a with

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<v Speaker 1>a just a question from our buddy right here. Yeah,

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't catch your name. I'm sorry about that, but

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're coming out to watch us, we

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>should at least answer your question. Absolutely shoul answer that question.

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<v Speaker 1>So he wanted to hear about Justin Reid right, the

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Stanford safety, which is that right? We wanted to talk

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>about Justin Reid, right, so we want to see about

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we talked about I mean, and he kind of reminds

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 1>me of de Sean Elliott, which I think that was

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>another part of that question, which is asked ten different

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>people how you feel about him, You'll get ten different answers.

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I've certainly seen him mocked in the first round.

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I know YouTube gentlemen are not particularly high on his game,

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.359
<v Speaker 1>So like, help me boil this thing down, Like what

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:22.760
<v Speaker 1>are we actually talking about here with Justin Reid. Justin

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Reid for me, was one of those go back and

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>watch type of guys. Yeah, because four fourth to combine, right,

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.799
<v Speaker 1>I tested really well? Yeah, I mean I didn't change

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:35.320
<v Speaker 1>my mind too much. But I think he minimizes mistakes

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>more than Elliott does. He's not stiff like Deshan Elliott is.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't labor when he's asked to turn and run.

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 1>He can do that. He has some range. He was

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.319
<v Speaker 1>productive like Deshan Elliott was five picks this year. Right,

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>So I feel better much better by Justin Reid than

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I do Elliott. It reads to me, I don't see

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a first round. Guy. I see a guy's gonna be

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 1>go somewhere on day two and he's not gonna be

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>a big time playmaker round, but I think he could

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>be a solid starter in this league. Yeah, I thought

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 1>at times, and Dane's got him nail. I thought at

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>times he struggled with his eyes. I didn't know if

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>he if he always saw everything the right way. But

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>the ball does gravitate towards him, you know, whether it's tipped,

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>intercept man, whatever, the ball tends to go to him.

0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>And I kind of liked him. I did. I thought

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the athletic ability, moves well, the wrap up tackling works

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to cut this guy off when he's covering. Stuff like that.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know in the film. It didn't like

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>he had closing speed, but his time speed was the

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>four to four. Oh, and I'm kind of like that,

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's where I think Dane was talking about. You

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>had to go back and say, wait a minute, now,

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>he didn't. I didn't. I had a note like no

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>closing speed, and then he runs four to four and

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, Okay, did he train to run four four

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>or is he that type of a player. So yeah,

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:49.439
<v Speaker 1>y'all wouldn't take him in the first round, But would

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you be shocked if he goes in the first round. Yeah, no, no,

0:42:53.160 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>because of safety, not a strong safety group. Yeah, especially

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a guy I think he's a free myself. Well, that's right.

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like three technique, Like, yeah, find ones

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.719
<v Speaker 1>like Dron Payne and some of these other guys. But

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>if you want a three technique, you better grab Taven

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Bryan pretty quickly. Right with the free safety Derman James,

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>he can do a little bit of everything. But once

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>he's gone, I mean, who's the next free safety off

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the boards? Maybe I'm trying to try. I'm trying. Yeah.

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if you want a free safety, if you

0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 1>have that need, you better get your guy early because

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get him later. My impression of read

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>is that nineteen is too rich. But I bet he's

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>not there at fifty. I think that's fair, certainly possible. Fair,

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>really good question from Perry. I mean, going back to

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 1>last year, we mentioned our guy Taco. Uh, you know,

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the the prevailing logic coming out of last year was

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that they drafted Taco because they felt better about getting

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.959
<v Speaker 1>defensive backs later in the draft. You know, they wanted

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 1>to get there in that of the way. They didn't

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>want to have to try to find one at pick sixty.

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>What position is that this year? You know, like where

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>they're I mean, by the time you get to fifty,

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.200
<v Speaker 1>there's just not a lot of options. We you just

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 1>might have mentioned this just the safety and I would

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>say mentioned three technique. Yeah, Maurice Hurst is a top guy.

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Tavin Ban Yeah, and then and after Tavin Bryan. I mean,

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>who you looking? I totally agree with you because I

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>was looking, I mean Shepherd. Maybe do you have Shepherd

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>as a one? I think he's interchangeable. Yah know, he

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 1>see I have him as a three. I mean I'm

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at I'm talking about you know, Hurst and Shepherd

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>and and Brian and those guys. Yeah, that's it. It's

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a big, big drop off, maybe even the drop off

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>at tackle offensive tackle. It might be another one too,

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>because we we hammered early in our show about mcclinchey

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.919
<v Speaker 1>from Notre Dame, about Connor Williams and now where is it?

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it O'Neill? Is it Colton Miller? That's fine? Yeah,

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I just swallowed real hard when he said that. But no,

0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 1>at Hey, but that's you know, hey, one of the

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>three technique. I want to mention to Sean hand Alabama. Alabama. Yeah,

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>worked out, He's I'm not I'm being talked about enough.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of that big defensive ent. Move him inside

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the three TECHNI yeah. Someon his good production from the

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:08.640
<v Speaker 1>You're to Go on day two and I think he's

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna have We're gonna hear about him his rookie year.

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I like it all right. I mean, Texas better be

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:15.959
<v Speaker 1>sending us a check for all the pub we're giving

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.640
<v Speaker 1>them on this show. They were very nice to us.

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>They were, They really were. This is a question from

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Adam which I want to know the answer to too,

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>because I got to look at this guy yesterday. Why

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't anybody talking about Chris Warren. You know, it's funny.

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I had a scout from a team. I was kind

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:32.320
<v Speaker 1>of making a joke. I was standing there trying to

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>get in the way again, and I was writing next

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to a couple of scouts, and I asked this one guy,

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go go, I go, who are these backs

0:45:39.440 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you watching? He goes that big one right there. For

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>anybody that does Texas, it's hiss. Yeah, exactly Cowboys. So

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting here and I'm going I'm going, you know what,

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>I go really and he goes, yeah, you need to

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>watch this guy. Go watch twenty sixteen. Yeah, yeah, that's that.

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>This past season was pretty much a disaster for him. Yeah,

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:09.360
<v Speaker 1>but still I don't know what he he he is

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>so thick. I mean you I mean, he is huge.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean when he walked by me, I'm like, going, mind,

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>he looks like a big tight end. Looks like a

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.200
<v Speaker 1>tight end. He does. Mean, he looks like a big

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>tight end. I'm thinking, like, I'm like, well, where does

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:25.240
<v Speaker 1>this guy play? But you're saying it maybe an h

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.439
<v Speaker 1>I do, Maybe he's a guy I need to look

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:31.919
<v Speaker 1>at because but he caught the ball. Well, he's got

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the body type. But I don't know, like an every

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 1>down back, you know. I mean, I don't mean, I

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>mean in a way you want to just keep handing it.

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he gets better or he gets worse,

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but the body type is surely there. It is one

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent there. He's a little bit of a different

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>guy too. He Uh. When he was deciding where to

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 1>go after high school, he literally flipped a coin between

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Texas and Washington Live, and he was ready to go

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 1>either way and pick Texas and that's where he ended out.

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 1>All I know is I watched him run rough shot

0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>over Texas Tech a couple of years ago. I mean

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like two hundred and something. Yeah, he's a he's an

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>impressive physically how he looks. Like again, I need to

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>go back because when he does get picked, I don't

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.120
<v Speaker 1>want to be embarrassed of not being able to say, well,

0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>this is what he did on take because the workout

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't terrible. But he's a prancer for a big guy

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>when he runs. Remember he was running the forty day.

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we were kind of timing him and he and

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>then it's like he was coming down at you. He

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of looked like a big old Clydesdale running at

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.239
<v Speaker 1>chat here. You know. Yeah, he's a traditional one cutback.

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 1>He has versatility as an h back and that's going

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.760
<v Speaker 1>to be appealing. So he gets a shot to get drafted.

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I think he hasn't been able to stay healthy and

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that's been a big boat. If it comes up on

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the clock, I'll give you the team. If he comes up,

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the team that told me like no,

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you need to watch this guy. There you go, you

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 1>need to watch that guy. Uh. Fun fun thing about

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:53.759
<v Speaker 1>our show. I mean there's so many ways, there's so

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 1>many outlets you can you can go to for draft coverage, right,

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:58.359
<v Speaker 1>thank you for coming to us. But I mean, like

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:00.799
<v Speaker 1>so many people with so many diferent opinions. And one

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 1>of the most interesting thing about this year's draft cycle,

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and I know why because we're afraid of the big receivers.

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But we don't really talk about Courtland Sutton. We haven't.

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 1>We like we do. I mean we've covered him, we

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:15.000
<v Speaker 1>covered him at the Combine four or five, five, but

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.520
<v Speaker 1>so many people talk about him in the mix for

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>pick nineteen or maybe a first round pick. We don't

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>talk about him that way. So it was his pro

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>day today. Jason Garrett was there, Sanjay Law the receivers coach,

0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>also Hall, Chris Hall was there. So let's just revisit Courtland.

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the last time we talked about him was

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 1>probably when he ran at the combine And just how

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.959
<v Speaker 1>are we feeling about this guy, big physical power forward

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 1>on the football field and you are encouraged by what

0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>he did the combine and you love his upside. Yeah,

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I do. He's my number four receiver and a big

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:47.399
<v Speaker 1>reason for that is because he's one of the few

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>receivers in this draft that can actually be has potential

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a number one in this league. Calvin Ridley,

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>as much as I love him, I think he's a

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.239
<v Speaker 1>high end number two. Same thing with DJ Moore, which

0:48:57.760 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>those guys that are one as starters on my team.

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 1>But if you're talking about that Julio Jones and AJ Green,

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that big number one receiver. Two guys in this draft

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>stand out is having that type of potential. They're not

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>there yet. But the dunder name kid Equiminia Saint Brown

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and then Courtland Sutton and what he did at the

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>combine gives you optimism that he's going to get better

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:18.080
<v Speaker 1>because he's a very He's a one speed route runner,

0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's the biggest worry, is canny separate at the

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 1>top of routes. He can win fifty fifty balls. We

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:24.440
<v Speaker 1>know that, but you still have to be able to

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>separate and at the NFL level, and his shuttles, his

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>short area agility times we're outstanding at the combine, so

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you think he can do it. He's capable, physically capable

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:36.160
<v Speaker 1>he just it's going to come down to muscle memory

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and working on those finer points of the position. Just

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>please let him go somewhere where they can teach him

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>how to run routes. Yeah, just don't. Don't just throw

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>him in the deep end of the pool and say

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:49.240
<v Speaker 1>go run routes. Because his program, he came from, his scheme,

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.840
<v Speaker 1>We talked, did him no favors about running routes. We

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:53.799
<v Speaker 1>talk all the time about how that's the strength of

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 1>san Jay Laws. Yeah, that's absolutely can work. Absolutely. If

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna contribute in the NFL as a rookie wide receiver,

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you better have one of two things. You either be

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:07.479
<v Speaker 1>a polished route runner like Michael Thomas from Ohio State

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>to the Saints. He's a polished route runner, or used

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to be a physical marvel like Odell Beckham when he

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>came into the league to the Giants. You have to

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 1>be one of those two things if you're really going

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 1>to contribute as a rookie. And that's why for a

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of these receivers we've seen Laquon Treadwell, Corey Coleman, Yeah,

0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys have struggled. Just Daxon, we've

0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>seen these guys struggle early on because they're not one

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of those two things, and it's just gonna take some

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:32.640
<v Speaker 1>time before they're ready to face bigger NFL defensive backs

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.560
<v Speaker 1>face press, gained chemistry with the offense, and I guess

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's fascinating to me. We'll see who's right. But

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>our show, I think we look at Cortland and Sutton

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 1>more is like pick forty to sixty ish, that's sounding fair, Yeah,

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I think yeah. I think I consider thirty maybe higher

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.640
<v Speaker 1>than that. Thirty to forty is what I would say, okay,

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like other outlets consider me even higher

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 1>than that. I mean, he is a popular pick at

0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen for the Cowboys. I'm fascinated to see whose opinion

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:03.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of turns out to be more correct. Well, and

0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>not sure where to go. I think opinions on him

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 1>are pretty similar. Just the value that's kind of hard

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>to pinpoint, because again we're talking about upside a guy

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.719
<v Speaker 1>who has to learn how to run routes and maybe

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:16.560
<v Speaker 1>he can do it, maybe he can't. We won't really

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>know until he gets into an NFL training camp. I mean,

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.520
<v Speaker 1>look at Laquon Treadwell. You know he has had a

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.800
<v Speaker 1>tough time adjusting to everything it takes from a mental

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 1>standpoint at the NFL. Maybe we're just a now. I

0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 1>think Dane has got him right. Yeah, I think that

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Dane has him right. And where he's gonna go. I

0:51:35.400 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>think he's got him in his ability to right. I

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.520
<v Speaker 1>just to me, I just want to I just hope

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>he goes to a place where they can work with

0:51:43.600 --> 0:51:45.359
<v Speaker 1>him as a out room where they can because he

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 1>has the ability. I mean you can see for his

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>height he moves well. Yeah, and the shuttles basketball. Yeah,

0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:54.520
<v Speaker 1>you know this. This the film will show you that

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.839
<v Speaker 1>he can move well. He really really can't. I've got

0:51:56.880 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 1>a great outside the box question from Yeah, this is

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the last one if we could, because we got a

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>transfer over here. But we got to answer this because

0:52:02.880 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I like it a lot. But we just talked about

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>safety kind of thin. Don't love your prospects after you

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>know one or two guys go off the board. Would

0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you consider drafting a top tier cornerback with the thought

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 1>process of mooding moving Cheeto Woozier to safety? Is that

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that sounds I don't like the idea of moving you

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 1>as you took Byron Jones from safety and made him

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:28.759
<v Speaker 1>corner this team, this team has not been great at that.

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 1>That's been a little bit of a problement. Exception of

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe Keith and Rob forty eight games in with Byron

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Jones and now you're trying to play it. You think

0:52:35.360 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>teams think about stuff like that, is like, well, sure, absolutely,

0:52:38.120 --> 0:52:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they do. And where did the Woozier start?

0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:41.880
<v Speaker 1>But he got hurt the first time he was in

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<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay game playing safety. But the thing with

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<v Speaker 1>the Woozier is we saw him in Colorado absolutely, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw him absolutely hybrid linebacker absolutely. So that's the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>difference between some of these corners. I'm looking down these

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<v Speaker 1>the corner list, a guy like Isaiah Oliver, could he

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Probably? Probably? So, yeah, we've never seen him

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<v Speaker 1>do something like that. And it's a hard thing to

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<v Speaker 1>take a guy top twenty overall and play them in

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<v Speaker 1>a position you've never seen him. A little different. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about moving Zach Martin to guard. That's much different

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<v Speaker 1>than talking about moving a corner to safety. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a much different position and we've never seen him

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<v Speaker 1>do it. All right, So what can I sell you

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<v Speaker 1>on Mike Cues at nineteen. I love I love my cues.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm a big Mike Cues. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Dane's as big a fan of Mike Cues as

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<v Speaker 1>I am, though I haven't top twenty five in my book. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love my cues. Any of these corners, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>available at nineteen, would you move? That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>We think about doing that. I don't. I might do Hughes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. I don't like to move, but

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<v Speaker 1>I might do Hughes. I know I'm not gonna get ward.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm not just and just get Hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>give me the best player and yeah out we're trade

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<v Speaker 1>up from trade up, trade up. All right, Hey, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all the time that we do have for the Draft show.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to thank everybody out there. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank all the the camera folks, all the people

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<v Speaker 1>with We also got so Chris Beam working with us

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<v Speaker 1>here outside. Were appreciating keeping today. Coming up next, our

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<v Speaker 1>boots are made for talking. We got Robin and Jessica.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to join the stage here. We've already seen

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<v Speaker 1>him taking some pictures. We're gonna be with you won't

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<v Speaker 1>have a draft show for you Monday. Why is that, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm out on assignment. Brian's going to the Masters, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go see a Mary Jealous. I'm going for

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<v Speaker 1>practice round. So but we'll be back Thursday and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get you all things caught up on NFL drafts from

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<v Speaker 1>my guys here, Dame Brigler, David Helmet, I'm Brian Bross,

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