1 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: on your war room for insider news and draft analysis 3 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the 4 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Elliott and now your 5 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 6 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: you do have the Draft show, and we're taking it outside. 7 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Rare for us, rare for us to get out here. 8 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: It is beautiful out here. It's nice to see a 9 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: lot of folks standing outside here and at the various 10 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: restaurants on the balcony. We're at the entertainment district here 11 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: the Star at on Cowboy Way. I'm excited about this. 12 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: It's kind of nice. It's nice to get outside because 13 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the draft will be here, and how much the draft 14 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: will be now we'll be here at the Star and 15 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the activity be over at at and T. 16 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: But man, it's nice to kind of do something a 17 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: little different. It's one of the big reasons the draft 18 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: is so great because it brings spring back, you know, 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: the warm weather, and it's one of the reasons the 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: draft so much fun. That is that is an angle 21 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: I had not thought of because I'm not from Ohio. 22 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: You know where I'm from, it's warm most of the 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: year instead of like climbing out of the single digits 24 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: around April. Yeah, it is well, very happy to be 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: out here. We're on the same stage where Pat Green, 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Texas Legend will be performing to night in front of 27 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: the crowd at seven thirty to night. And this is 28 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: a all weekend event too, So this is the first 29 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: night and this thing will go all the way through 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: April first, so make sure you come out and check out. 31 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we we eat these restaurants quite a bit 32 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: and enjoy all the food and entertainment and stuff that 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: the Star has to offer. But speaking of being entertained, 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Dane Burgler, David Hellman and I hit a couple of 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: Pro days this week. We got to go to the 36 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: University of Texas and then to Texas A and M. 37 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: With the two that we did, I put him in 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: reversal order there, but the two big pro days there, 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: and it was it was interesting to see these players 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: live the workouts, and you know, we've always talked about 41 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: how important Pro days were, and you know, we came 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: away with I mean I know I did, and I 43 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: was trying to figure out something about with Connor Williams, 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, and at the University of Texas. And I'll 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: get to Christian Kirk because that was the one that 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: Texas A and M because he I've got questions about 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: him too, though, But I'm trying to figure out where 48 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: teams would see Connor Williams. I mean, you know your 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: evaluations that you have. You know he's a tackle. Can 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: he play guard? I'll tell you what. Yesterday the Saints 51 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: worked him as a center, So I mean it was 52 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: just and David loves it when I make that. Yet 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: make this, hey, nobody, you got excited about it wrong 54 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: when nobody loves the workout more than me. When you 55 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 1: see what these coaches do with these guys, But where 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: do you see Connor Williams has kind of become a 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a forgotten guy when we start talking 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: about some of the other tackles, guards and stuff in 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: this draft. And we talked about right before. You watched 60 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: the two and sixteen tape his sophomore year in All 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: American season for the Longhorns, you saw a future left 62 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: tackle in the NFL. You watched this year, all of 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, you have some reservations. You think about maybe 64 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: inside and guard. It's gonna be split among the We 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: talk to different people around the league, so we're gonna 66 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: see a guard, so we're gonna see a tackle. Thirty 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: three inch arms. That's kind of the cutoff right for 68 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of teams in terms of of arm length 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: for the outside the edges playing tackle position. You talked 70 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: to different teams, You're gonna get different answers, and I'm 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: glad to see that he worked out at center. If 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: you gonna show your versatile it's only gonna help your 73 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: cause on draft day. So I think Connor Williams has 74 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: a chance to go in the first round, depending on 75 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: what the team is looking for, if they want to 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: guard a tackle, how they view him. But the more 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: he can do, the better. So good to see that 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: he worked out across the different positions. At the Prode 79 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: David and the Posts workout interview, he kind of offered 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: that he's visiting with the Cowboys. Yeah, which this is 81 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: It's always a funny line to try to designate with 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: these local guys. Malik Jefferson and Connor Williams both they 83 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: both plan on visiting with the Cowboys, but they're both 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: local kids, right, So I think Connor said his visual 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: his visit was official, but it doesn't seem like it 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense to have to bring a 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: guy from Capelle in on an official visit. To me, 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: when you, I mean he can come up here whenever 89 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: he wants to, since he's from the metropolitan area. That's 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: what Malik Jefferson said. He's got a thirty visit planned 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: with another team on Dallas Day, which is the local 92 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: prospect right here in a week, so he's going to 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: set something else up because again, he can come whenever 94 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: he wants. So I'm not one hundred percent confident that 95 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: those guys fall on the thirty list, but I am 96 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: confident that they will both be up here meeting with 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: the staff, you know, between now and the draft. I 98 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: think the thing that I was driving at here is 99 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: is this team looking at Connor Williams to potentially be 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: a pick at nineteen. I think if you're turning over 101 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: every stone, you'd be dumb not to look. And I 102 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: haven't watched all this tape. I'm not the experts that 103 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: y'all are, but look at him yesterday. I was very impressed, 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: and I said this while we were you know, we 105 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: were working on a video that we're doing our staff here, 106 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: not comparing their level of play. I'm not saying he's 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: an all pro, but Connor Williams reminded me of Tyrn 108 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Smith in terms of his build. His build he looks. Yeah, 109 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: he looks you know you think of like a big, 110 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: sloppy offensive line. Yeah, this is not that guy. This 111 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: is a streamlined athlete. Like doesn't look like there's an 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: ounce of fat on him. He's fluid, he's quick, he's athletic. Like, 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he could play all five positions on the line, 114 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know if Tyrant could do that. But 115 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: like I said, like, I just was so impressed by 116 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: his workout and and how athletic and quick he looked. 117 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I he's a bendy guy. Yeah, I mean you want Yeah. 118 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: The first thing they did was they got him down 119 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: into like almost like a catcher stance where you put 120 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: your heels flat and then you bend your back, keep 121 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: your back straight and ben straight down from the knees, 122 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: and the ones that can't do it end up getting 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: caught forward and easy. It's like the coach said, Okay, 124 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: just try and put your rear on the floor and 125 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: he went straight down and then he sat there and 126 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: you're like going, my gosh, and in his hips too, 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: like why he's opening his hips and showing how well 128 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: he like the same thing. Yeah, that's the first line 129 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: of my report. Flexible knees joins the sit in his 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: stance and maintain balance. And that's the biggest thing for 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: offensive lineman because the guys that can't sync their hips 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: right and dropped their hips to anchor, they're gonna have 133 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: a tough time versus NFL pass rushers. And I only 134 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: Connor Williams has a problem with that. My biggest issue 135 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: with him is opening his chest to defenders getting inside. 136 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: So he needs him work on the technique with his 137 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: hands right. But from an athletic standpoint, it's all there. Yeah. 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to derail you, Brian, But can I 139 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: can I lead us in a thought exercise real quick? 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: If we're investigating and educating and if the point of 141 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: the draft is to have an open mind. Talked a 142 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: lot about maybe Lyle Collins moving to guard something they 143 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: see fit. All right, you look at what are some 144 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: tackles you could draft in the first round. I think McGlinchey. Yeah, 145 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: maybe you draft Connor Williams. Maybe you draft him with 146 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: an eye on being a developmental swing tackle in his 147 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: rookie year, and he could be a tackle of the future. 148 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: If you move Lyle to guard, you could have him 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: ease into the right tackle role or maybe even play 150 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: left tackle if he's up to it, if you know, 151 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: depending on what the future holds for Tyrant Smith. So 152 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: if you're telling me they're looking at tackles, I'm not 153 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: super surprised, then I'm not gonna say I would love it, 154 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: but I could at least understand why they might be 155 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: interested in Connor Williams in that range. Yeah. Am I 156 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: crazy for thinking that? No? I don't think so. I 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: mean we've kind of talked about that. I know Dane 158 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: would not entertain draft in a car. We know how 159 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Dane feels, Dan, Dan, would you feel different if it 160 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: was drafted as a tackle? Um, you know, it's it's 161 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: tough discussion because you're not drafting necessarily a starter unless 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna move lay all inside, right, So there's some 163 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: debate going on there about what's the best move about 164 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: the best five on the field. Sure, I'd be open 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: to it, but I want a defensive playmaker. And yeah, 166 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I agree with Dane, but again, in the in the 167 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: in the interesting, you can't rule it out open mind. 168 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: And well not only that, but sure you talking about 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: drafting a Roquan Smith to not necessarily be a starter, 170 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: but to supplement your linebacker corps him and Jalen working 171 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: together or what happened to Like I said, you could 172 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: move Violet a guard and not even start Connor Williams. 173 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: You could start Cam Fleming for a year and then 174 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: you've got four more years of Connor Williams as a 175 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: starter in the future, if that's the way he decided 176 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: to go. Regardless about the tackle guard debate and all that, 177 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: is Connor Williams worth a nineteenth pick in your opinion, Ryan, 178 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: I think that he is. I do, I mean, I 179 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: do think that Connor Williams is a guy that I 180 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: look at him, and after that workout yesterday I kind 181 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: of had you know, I'm with you on the twenty 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: sixteen tape. The seventeen tape was a nightmare for him. 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking I'm sitting here thinking, man, this guy 184 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: was a productive high school player, he was a productive 185 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: college player. Everything kind of lines up for him is 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: coming in here and having success, much like or with 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: any team. I'm not just talking the cow was sure, 188 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: but yeah, the nineteen yes, much like much like Harold 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Landry up at Boston College. Though what injury had a 190 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: big part to do with connor Ways struggles in twenty seven, 191 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: It's not like he forgot how to play. Yeah. I 192 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: think that last time we met and had the show, 193 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: Dane was talking about throwing names at nineteen. I guess 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: that's what I'm doing. I'm throwing a name at nineteen 195 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: that we we really haven't talked a whole lot about 196 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: Connor Williams being a name at nineteen, which do we 197 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: know was weight from yesterday to wants to play at 198 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: three oh five. He wants to play at three oh five. 199 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: That's his ideal. But Dave's right, man. Physically, he just 200 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: looks and you think about what he could do in 201 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: this scheme where it is about movement, it's about second 202 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: level blocks, it's about getting outside, you know. I just 203 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things. So I'm like, I'm glad 204 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: that you guys said, Okay, look again, I'm all about 205 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: trying to get this thing to how many names can 206 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: we get at nineteen? How many different options can we get? 207 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: And I think the way that the Cowboys are going 208 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: to these workouts, they're trying to get as many names 209 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: as they can, and they're gonna narrow this thing down 210 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: when they start their draft meetings on April ninth. That's 211 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: when they're gonna that's when the board, the stack, all 212 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: that stuff is going to be set. And that's and 213 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: as many names as they've got to go with. I 214 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: think you want options there, and they it might even 215 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: allow them to say, well, heck, we could trade back 216 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: two or three spots. That's a great point. But that's 217 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: what That's what I was asking you guys last week. 218 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: Where's the range for Roquan Smith? You guys gave me 219 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: great answers on that. Where's the range on Derwin James? 220 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: Great answers on that? And I think the range on 221 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Yeah, probably eighteen to thirty two? Yeah, I 222 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: mean I think that maybe maybe twenty four. The Saints 223 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: worked him out and there are twenty seven, I believe 224 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: is what they're at now. So you know, twenty seven 225 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: twenties somewhere right there, suit to me. And they lost 226 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: the right tackle, by the way, the ram check Yeah 227 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: but he but yeah, but ram check left tackle. This 228 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: guy put him at the right tackle. Yeah yeah, but okay, 229 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: don't no, don't don't know. But no, you're right, Dane, 230 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: You're right there. But I just kind of I'm just 231 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: trying to think of I'm looking at range, I'm looking 232 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: right if everyone needs more offensive line helps, So yeah, 233 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: what if what if someone? If it was somebody? What 234 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: if one of the quarterbacks is still there at nineteen 235 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: lamar jack? What if it? Now you're talking about somebody 236 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: trading up from the back end? Okay, who are you 237 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: comfortable going down? Now? I mean I always yell at 238 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: you guys about Dave. Don't give me more. I don't. 239 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. But maybe maybe when 240 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: you're looking at guys like Connor Williams, down for Connor Williams, 241 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: you could probably go down for DJ Moore. Yeah. Colton 242 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: Miller is gonna be in that discussion too, whether we 243 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: agree with that or not. Yeah, point that is, Yeah, 244 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: the Colton Miller. That's a good point there as well. 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: To Dane's point, I would not love that pick. That's 246 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: not a knock on Connor Williams. It's just a knock 247 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: on what this team needs. Yeah, but he looked like 248 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: a first round player to me just watching him go 249 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: through his workout. I think the top two tackles in 250 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: this draft Mike McGlinchey from Notre Dame Honor Williams from Texas. 251 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: I think mcglinchey's the safer pick, right, Williams has the 252 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: higher upside, and I think I agree with you there. 253 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: I agree with there. O'Neil was a guy initially from 254 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: pitt that kind of got my attention, and I think 255 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: there's a drop off between that. I mean, I'm McGlinchey 256 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Williams and then Okay, there's gonna be some drop off 257 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: there him Brown from Oklahoma. I mean, you're gonna you know, 258 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: I talked to a team the other day that's at 259 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: the back of the draft that's interested in so, I mean, 260 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. And a lot of people said, oh, 261 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: terrible combine, will never be picked and all that. I 262 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: got a team that said, yeah, no, no, hey, we're 263 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: okay with this guy. Yeah, you're okay. Hey, you gotta 264 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: trust the tape on him. Okay, we're gonna take a break, 265 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break, and then we're gonna come 266 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: back after this. I want to do some Twitter on 267 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: the twenty. 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This team, Okay, I want 335 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: to get back into what we were talking about earlier. 336 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: This I want to flip it nowt to Christian Kirk 337 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: and that you know, the position drills only for Christian Kirk. 338 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel threw him the football and hey, he couldn't 339 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: have had a guy that put more on him. You know. 340 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: Johnny did a really nice job with that. But David 341 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: talk about a little bit of the what, well, let 342 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: me do this. I'll do what I did. I kind 343 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: of I kind of said it. I'm gonna set it 344 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: for you here, all right. Dane talk about people think 345 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: about him slot receiver, right and they worked him outside 346 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: quite a bit though. Talk about okay, transition where are 347 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: you on Christian Kurt Not so much the round or 348 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: anything like that, but where are you on playing ability? 349 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: And what could he have to show you in a 350 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: workout in order to kind of maybe uh check boxes 351 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: for you or make you get a little bit more concerned. Oh, 352 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: he's a finally tuned athlete. I don't know that he's 353 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: necessarily as explosive as very quick, very very fair, but 354 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: he's actually does an actually job of handling his throttle, 355 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: you know what, meaning he can get in and out 356 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: of his route breaks very efficiently, create his own space. 357 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: And that's why he's so dangerous in the slot. The 358 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: big question on the outside can't he beat press? What 359 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: is he gonna do against big, physical defensive backs in 360 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: the NFL who make contact strup the timing? Can he recover, 361 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: get open, separate? I think he's best in space, That's 362 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: why he's best in the slot. Now, how did he 363 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: do during the workout when he did go on the outside? Yeah, 364 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: I think that we saw the routes were good. I 365 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: like the you know, the slant stuff might be a 366 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: little if he was playing against somebody in his face, 367 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: might be a little more difficult for him, you know. 368 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: I think the further you remove him from the ball, 369 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: maybe the more trouble that he might have. Because again 370 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: there was stuff that he was trying to break on 371 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: inside and I was thinking, like get it to him, now, 372 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: get it, you know, because the further way was is 373 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: But then Manziel hits him on a deep ball, vertical 374 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: nine and stuff. So yeah, I see exactly what you 375 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: talk about. I'm worried about him against the press. That's 376 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: where you can't simulate that in approach you can't. And 377 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: then I think that you know, the Cowboys and Calvalaro there, 378 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: we've talked about that. Calvalaro is probably gonna stand over 379 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: him and just bang him all day and try and 380 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: let him release into these routes and see if he 381 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 1: can do it. But I thought he caught the football 382 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: very well. Yeah, I think I could say Manziell put 383 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: some good put some good ones on him and the people. 384 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, he's got a couple of visits, he said. 385 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: He talked about Arizona being one of them. That's his 386 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,239 Speaker 1: home state. And then and he's also got Seattle, and 387 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: these are two teams ahead of the Cowboys, you know, 388 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: that are that are interested in in bringing him in 389 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: So I man, I have a hard time with him 390 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: as a first round player, I really really do. But 391 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, I could see somebody, I mean, we laugh 392 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: about New England at thirty one? Is could that be 393 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: your slot player that you know that that that's that's 394 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: their guy, that type of a productive player. This uh. 395 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: And this isn't a knock on him as an athlete 396 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: or as a football player, but Christian Kirk just scares me. 397 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: And that I mean certainly at nineteen and even at fifty, 398 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: just because you know, and it's ironic because I was 399 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: just talking about Connor Williams as at least an intriguing 400 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: option as like a project player. You wouldn't You wouldn't 401 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: consider that at nineteen, would you. Well, I'm just I'm 402 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: not drafting a wide receiver to be a project for 403 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: this team. Right. If you're drafting an offensive lineman, you're 404 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: drafting him onto the strongest unit on your team, and 405 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: you can probably get away with giving him time to develop, 406 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: especially as much as you love D G. J. Moore. 407 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: Right If I'm well, just I love a lot of 408 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: the receivers in this and if I'm drafting one of them, 409 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I want results right away, right, and I mean, obviously 410 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: that's never a guarantee, but I want to give myself 411 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: the best possible bet. It scares me that Christian Kirk 412 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: didn't play a lot outside. It scares me. His dimensions 413 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: indicate that he might have a problem against the press, 414 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: all that type of stuff like It just it scares 415 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: me to think that he might not blossom into what 416 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: you want until year two or three. And that's not 417 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: why this team's drafting a wide receiver, because if you 418 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: spend a big time asset on a receiver, we were 419 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: pretty sure that means there's some changes coming to your 420 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: receiver corps right well. And part of the appeal of 421 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Kirk is special teams. What do you can do is 422 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 1: return man? Yea. And they worked on the Cowboys. They 423 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: were down there working him out. Though they worked him out, 424 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: set the special teams coach down there to watch him 425 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: catch butts. I'm not suggesting Ryan, there's an all pro. 426 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: But they have a return man, they have two capable 427 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: slot receivers. It just it doesn't fit for me. And 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: if he can if he can become more than that, 429 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: if he can become a dynamic receiver on the outside, 430 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: too awesome for him, but I don't trust that it's 431 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: going to happen as quickly as I wanted to for 432 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: this team, and like something about him just puts me 433 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: off and that maybe that's more on me than him, 434 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: but that's just how I feel about it. I think 435 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is a great player. I just think he 436 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: has a low ceiling as an NFL player. I don't 437 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: and I think he has a high floor too, meaning 438 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: he's not going to be a bust, right, I feel 439 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: confident in saying that, But I don't think he's going 440 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: to be an all pro either. I don't think he 441 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: has that type of potential where he's going to be 442 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: a number one or he might not even be a 443 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: number two for your team, and that might be his 444 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: best role as that slot that underneath target and playing 445 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: the YU. It's where does where's the value of a 446 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: guy like that? In the draft? Right? In my ranking 447 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: sees number six among the wide receivers. Sure, so you 448 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: know a guy like Corton Sutton who doesn't necessarily have 449 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: the production or uh not as polished in some areas, 450 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: but he has high upside to be a number one 451 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: where Kirk doesn't have that. Did you hear what he 452 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: ran today? Did he run or did he stay stay 453 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: on four? Five? Five? I didn't see it. I didn't see. 454 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to kind of and I ran into coach. 455 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: I ran into Coach Garrett and he was walking around. 456 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Uh you know, Rocky was running for governor here. He 457 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: was talking everybody but me, But yeah, I was I 458 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: was kind of thinking that. You know, he rand four 459 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: or five five at the combine and I wondered he 460 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: stayed on that time or they try to get him outdoors, 461 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, with the wind a little bit and maybe 462 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: get a little bit pick up some speed like that. 463 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's focus a little bit on the defensive 464 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: players that you know where we talked about Dave for 465 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: the University of Texas. You know the guys where you 466 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: know we Jefferson before. I struggle with him a little 467 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: bit though the way, and I just give me a 468 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: thumbnail on him, Dane and kind of how you you 469 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: see him in this in this draft. It's a fantastic athlete. Uh, 470 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: he's physical, contact driven, high character guy. The big worry 471 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: with Malik Jefferson, it's just the natural instincts. Yeah, he's 472 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: he's a guessers reacts first, then he thinks, and that'll 473 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: get him in trouble sometimes. So if you can simplify 474 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: his reads, I think he's gonna be a quality player 475 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: for you. But again, he's very young in mind in 476 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: terms of what he sees and diagnosing it and reacting 477 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: in time, So you do worry about that because of that. 478 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be our first round player. 479 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: I think he'll be somewhere on day two. But he 480 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: didn't run or he didn't do the forty right, No, 481 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: he did not stayed on his time which started four 482 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: or five, five two as well or something like that. 483 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: But yeah, he just kind of but the workout. It's 484 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: funny the Saints and the Bengals put him through the workout, 485 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: and I was kind of thinking that I saw a 486 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: little bit he smut an athlete, though. I saw a 487 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: guy with a little stiffness to him. Though you know 488 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: with some of the movement you can when he when 489 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: he was lateral, it was a little bit like, come on, man, 490 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I've seen you. I've seen you go, I've seen you, 491 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: he mean, and it was like he was it was 492 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: like he was fighting himself a little bit yesterday and 493 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: that that was kind of a that was troubling to me. 494 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: I was shuttles. He did shuttles, but it was like 495 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I think the time he didn't do him at the 496 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: combine and I was watching him do the shuttles. I'll 497 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: tell you the drill that it got me was the 498 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: they put him through the bags. We had to move laterally, 499 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: and you know, he was he was It was like 500 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: he was trying to run and he was just it 501 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: was not as smooth as I've say. I mean, because 502 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: you've seen him make plays where he's kind of seen 503 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: it and gone and been lateral and all that, and 504 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: then but those drills, I mean, I was like coach Nolan, 505 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan did a great job of trying to move 506 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 1: him around to make you and then they ran him 507 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: on a wheel route and he looked like he was 508 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: okay doing that in the coverage aspect of it, but man, 509 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: it was just kind of up and down at yeah. 510 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: And I was a good athlete and I was like, going, 511 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: come on, man, I just I wanted to see more 512 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: of that athletic ability from him. I just didn't see 513 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: it though. Talk about though, as well, Okay, Elliot, the 514 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: safety we've him Okay, watch another guy. We saw it. 515 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: I mean we saw a couple of safeties at A 516 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: and M. I think it's funny that. I mean we 517 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: saw Elliott and or Watson. Elliott on back to back days, 518 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: by the way, or Watts he with the two ten. Yeah, 519 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: his his weight is. It's it's funny. He's going from 520 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: one ninety one Senior Senior Bowl to two ten and 521 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't know two two two And I don't know 522 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: if somebody's telling him strong safety, bulk up, you know, 523 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: I just don't know where that direction is going. But 524 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: it's hurting how he's moving. I don't see. I didn't 525 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: see a guy that was really athletic. And when he 526 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: when you watch him on tape, you know the things 527 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: he could do. Who'll come forward, I'll hit you. We've 528 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: talked about him a bunch, but I worry about him 529 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: putting on so much weight. Did he can't move at all? 530 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: Stands out to you the most about Elliott. He talks 531 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: all the time. He does talk a lot. He's a 532 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: very encouraging guy. He's a he's a raw rock kind 533 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: of guy. He's very raw, raw. His teammates kind of 534 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: like they look at him. And they kind of move away. 535 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: Oh but he's a he's he's one of these interesting 536 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: discrepancy players, not unlike Malik Jefferson in my opinion, because 537 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: depending on you know, some people are like, oh, this 538 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: guy's gone by pick sixty, and some people are like, 539 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: and you can get this guy in the fifth round. 540 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, usually you hear more, uh, you hear 541 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: more agreement more often than not, like most people kind 542 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: of have the same idea, but you get some polarizing 543 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: opinions about this guy. Would you be surprised if Sean 544 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Elliott was taken on day two? Yeah, I would so, 545 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: because what's happened when you watch what game was that 546 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: they ran right by him. I mean it was I'm 547 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: trying to remember Picky, I know. Yeah, see that's what 548 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That turned the deep speaks. He is a 549 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: stiff athlete, but I mean he almost ran me over. 550 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: I got in the way on one of the drills 551 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: that it was kind of I was a little too 552 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: close to the drill. He had six picks, like I 553 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: got to get the intrigue. I get what I do. 554 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: And but ball, because he does have ball skills. I 555 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: mean when he catches the ball he's got. You see 556 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: the hands, I could see the hands, but man, the 557 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: movement is just and then and then you're talking about 558 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: the burst and all, I'm like, I don't see it. 559 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: And well, and most of his interceptions were not overthrows, 560 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: they were not him creating. No, he deserves credit. He 561 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: made the pick, he created, or he finished eternal. You 562 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: gotta give a guy a credit for finishing. Oh no, no, no, hey, 563 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: hey if the ball is going to him, hey, maybe 564 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: the balls gravitates tour. Maybe that's his bit. Yeah, right, 565 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, but I would be surprised if he's picked 566 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: in day two. I really would be surprised. Fourth, fifth round, 567 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: I think that. I'll tell you somebod I wouldn't be 568 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 1: surprised it's picking day two. That Poonaford. Yeah, that guy 569 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: right there. Five. Yeah, you were on him very early 570 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: about that. It's hard. It's hard not to with as 571 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: good as he was him sounding the wide receiver. He's 572 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: found one and two combine snubs this year. You guys 573 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: sound like Rod Marinelli. It's like the orphan, like, oh, 574 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: nobody wants him, we'll take him. Well, they see five 575 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: eleven and they he's not for everybody. Yeah, but when 576 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: you're when you're a three hundred and twenty pound man, 577 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: you take your shirt off and you do care and 578 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: you're out there doing the drills. You're a self confident player. 579 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: You identified with that, and you're like, that's what I 580 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: would look like. I was wanting to be him. I 581 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: was like, you know, I feel like taking off my 582 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: shirt scouting him, you know what I mean. But it 583 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: would have been a bad idea. Glad you didn't do that. 584 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: But no, I mean he I'll tell you what. The power, 585 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: the explosiveness. I mean, I'm watching him go through those 586 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: bags and I'm cheerleading for the guy. I mean, he's 587 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: slapping it those bags. Got that heavy bass to him. 588 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: He's knocking the bags all over the place, and I'm like, going, 589 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: get it big, Villa, just keep getting it big. But 590 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of those. There's some those guys in 591 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: this draft that way, those one technique short daddy players. 592 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Stack him, stack him now, do it. Don't just say 593 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: South Florida. South Florida is my favorite short daddy guy. No, 594 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: where's poona poona? I got him. I got him in 595 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: the third, third round. I got him the third round 596 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: Dans laughing at me right now, I think, no, Dane's 597 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: probably got him the fourth fifth, I got three to four. Yeah, okay, 598 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: who I feel a little bit better about that he's 599 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: having the three. It's I think I had him in 600 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: the third coming out and not even I mean before 601 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I went into the workout. I had him there. So 602 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: I just just it's one of those interesting conversations because 603 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: we all agree you should trust the tape, but like 604 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: then it comes to a point where where can you 605 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: just not ignore the measurables? I mean, are you're really 606 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: going to draft a five ten and a half five 607 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: eleven d tackle in the top one hundred, Yeah, if 608 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: you could attack the gap the way though. I never 609 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: understood the height, you know, not drafting player because he's shorter. 610 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Like if anything you're creating, you have a low natural 611 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: leverage the kid from South Florida, right, I don't understand 612 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: he's a lower guy as being a weakness. Yeah, you know, 613 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean I understand in length, I understand maybe not 614 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: being a wide body for an interior player, but for 615 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: being short. You know, I know Aaron Donald, He's not 616 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Right. When you have that natural leverage, you 617 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: get underneath blocks, play load of the ground. You're not 618 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: gonna get moved out one guy. Yeah, you have some mobility. 619 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, Cincinnati they worked him out. That's my team. 620 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: You're so jealous, you know me? I yeah, I need 621 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: to work for the Bengals. I'd say it every year. 622 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: I got your boy lawsons, I got your boy mixing 623 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: or we're trying to get Dane a job and I 624 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: gotta get him. I gotta get to Cincinnati so I 625 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: can get him a job. That's why. That's why. Butts 626 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: my team right there. They don't care. They don't care. 627 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: They draft, They don't look at measurable. They's draft good players. 628 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: That's all they do. That's all they do. You don't 629 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: think they have like, they don't have like a measurement. 630 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: They don't care. They don't care. I mean, Dane is 631 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: Dane would be on their staff. Give him logic and 632 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: then I'd be able to shut up Dane. We're gonna 633 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: draft this punaform. Speaking of players that Bengals probably like, Yeah, 634 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: Holton Hill, Uh, there's another one. No. No, First of all, 635 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: I think it's his workout one very good Dane. First 636 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: of all, I think it's a good sign that he 637 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: was able to work out of Texas. Yeah, he was 638 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: suspended and definitely towards the end of the season, he's 639 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: got him off field stuff. Just the fact that he 640 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: was invited there and worked out. He said at his 641 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: interview after it was over that you know, it's all good. 642 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: He's got a great relationship with Herman and all the 643 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: guys down there. So yeah, I mean that's encouraging, you 644 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: know what. I was watching him work out, and I 645 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: was expecting him more of a more athlete because on 646 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: the tape he will knock you out. He can tackling corner. 647 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: In this draft, that's that's a very first statement. I 648 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't want to talk about holding 649 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Hill because I want him to be sitting there like 650 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: pick one thirty seven, you know, like I like and 651 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: I think they would take him. I don't know, I 652 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: since Bengals, would you write me would damn right? They would? 653 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: I I don't know, they might not. I mean, you 654 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: know that's been a that's been a non starter for 655 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: them in the past. Do you think about Marcus Peters 656 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: for a big difference between a guy with problems like 657 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: that at sixteen and a guy with problems like that 658 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: at one thirty seven, So I would do it just 659 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I mean, his his tapes awesome, and yeah, whatever his 660 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: workout was lackluster, I don't care. His tapes awesome. Yeah. 661 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: It was kind of funny, Dame to watch him move 662 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: because on tape, you know, you do see a guy 663 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: that's got that range, the ability to turn run open. 664 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: And when they were doing stuff individually with him, he 665 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: wasn't as smooth. It wasn't as it was a little 666 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: bit clunky the way he was trying to drive, and 667 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, I mean I was like, I was like, 668 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: come on, man, your tape, your team's good. Keep you know, 669 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: getting cheerleading over there for the kids, almost getting hit 670 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: in the couple of drills because I was too close. Yeah. 671 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: They there are people on site at these pro days 672 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: that tell you where you're supposed to stand, and Brian 673 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: just ignores him. And he's like, oh, I'm fine, I'm fine, 674 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: thank you. I need to go here and scout, thank you. 675 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: I know what I mean. That's the way nobody else 676 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: is within twenty yards of these workouts. And Brian's like 677 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: standing next to Jim has it like, yeah, Jim, make 678 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: him going around the back of Hey, Mike, Mike, turn 679 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: him a little bit this way, turn them to the left. 680 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: I want to see him. I want to see him. 681 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: I want to seven explode off that foot. I'll tell 682 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you what. No pro days are good. I'm glad we 683 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: got to go. Speaking of pro days, as we get 684 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: through Cowboys, we saw Rod Marinelli leading a pro day Florida. 685 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: They are active, aren't they. How about my guy Tevin 686 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: Bryan right there? Is that at nineteen. There is that 687 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: we're throwing that name in there at nineteen and then 688 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: then let's that's where're gonna have to draft him if 689 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: you want them. Yeah, he's talking to be there at 690 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: fifty year. We both okay, trade back, right we talk 691 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: about if we go back maybe at the end of 692 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: the draft my mock draft right now, I haven't going 693 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: twenty to the Lions. So you're not trading back if 694 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: you want them. Just killed the dream of Tevin Bryan 695 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: right there. If you trade back and you can take 696 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: him at nineteen, yeah, you know, I don't there's a 697 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be taking ahead of you 698 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: at nineteen, but he'll be there him or hearst rss 699 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: rated higher. But you know obviously, right, that's yeah. Again, 700 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interpreted differently by thirty two different teams, right, 701 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: That's what I worry what their medical staffs tell them, 702 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: the you know, input they're getting from the just different 703 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: medical opinions about the heart. Is it something long term 704 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: you worry about. It's it's something we can't really answer 705 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: because it's gonna be different from team to team. He's 706 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: a first round talent, there's no question, but we're still 707 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: kind of you know, TBA on him. If I told 708 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: you they would take pain from Alabama at nineteen, what 709 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: would you say to that? I would just okay, that 710 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: would be okay, okay, very taco like no, no, I 711 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: liked and I even like taco. I'll wear that badge. 712 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: I like taco more than y'all did. That's the way 713 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: great sport code today. Thank you that I look like 714 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm a starget Pepper's Lonely Hearts cut band, a plate 715 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: of tacos, So you look good man. Um, I wouldn't 716 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: hate that pick like I kind of break it down 717 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: into like hate it wouldn't hate it, love it, like 718 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: if they drafted pain and be like, all right, let 719 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: me hit him one more time with this one. Dane 720 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: Banderish or pain Pain And how about you, young man? 721 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: Uh getting the linebacker? I like Painting And they're both 722 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: I think they're closely rated on my board. Uh, they're 723 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 1: both like in that late twenties range on my overall board. 724 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: I actually, well, and how about Brian or Vanderish? Still 725 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: probably Brian, just just just for and it's really more 726 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: about what that. Yeah, it's you know, you're playing of 727 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: the snaps, you're getting after the passer. Like I again, ideally, 728 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: ideally this linebacker that you're talking about drafting won't be 729 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 1: on the field that much hopefully. Yeah, that's the that's 730 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: the stated goals. So I'd much rather have Josie Jewel 731 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: at fifty, who can play a role but not necessarily 732 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: be the guy. And yeah, give me a guy who 733 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: can bulk up my past rush at nineteen. Dank I 734 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: get Juliet fifty, I think so, Yeah, I think that 735 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: he'll be somewhere in that second round range. He's gonna 736 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: be that second tier of linebackers. So when we get 737 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: into day two and we start talking guys left on 738 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: our board, Josie Jewel will be a guy up on 739 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: that board. I think band Rush won't be I think 740 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: he'll be taken in the first round and then I 741 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: think we reset the board the top linebackers. You're looking 742 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: at Josie Jewel, Uh, Fred Warner from b Y Yeah, 743 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: Lee Jefferson Texas, Fred Warner. Give me one of these three. Yeah. 744 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: Fred Warner got a visit from from our boys. I mean, like, 745 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: like I said there, I mean it's pro Day. They 746 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: are active. I mean they went down. The whole staff 747 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: went down to Obama. Cavalaro went to an M to c. Kirk, 748 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: they were at at Provo. They went to see Marcus 749 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: daven Park, they went to see Taven Bryant. Like they're everywhere. Yeah, 750 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: so that's not like act like these guys aren't scouting. 751 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah No, everybody's like, oh, they're sitting at home doing nothing. 752 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: There Definitely they're scouting Fred Warner in the second round 753 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: or you might even be there in the third. I 754 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: don't know, but it wouldn't be a bad pick. Say 755 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: say that Josie Jewel or a Warner at fifty. It 756 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: depends what you want. I mean Fred Warner is more 757 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: of an outside guy. Yeah, he could cover Jewels more 758 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: of your middle linebacker's Yeah, it depends what you want. 759 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: But I have warrener rated just ahead of Jewel on 760 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: my board. Give me give me a day two linebacker 761 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: who can be an understudy and contribute to the cause, 762 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: but preferably not start, and let me address something that 763 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: really needs boosting more so at pick nineteen if I can. 764 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: And if if if Sean Evans or Layton vander esh 765 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: is the pick, certainly if Roquan Smith is the pick, Yeah, 766 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But there's things you could address 767 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: before linebacker that I think you can get away with it. 768 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: All right, great job, guys, A nice segment. I appreciate that. Okay, 769 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: I kind of went in past Twitter on the twenty. Well, 770 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: we'll pick it up now. We're gonna go to our 771 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: final break here. When we come back, I promise you 772 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: David Hellman has got some of your questions and we 773 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: will get to him to close this show. We are 774 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: at the entertainment district here at the Stars, So if 775 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: you're in the Eric Combine, say hello, David will take 776 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: a picture of with you. 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David, I 827 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: want to ask you about Tommy john I bet you 828 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: were some of your Tommy john this trip. While we 829 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: were down in Central Texas, I absolutely was wearing my 830 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: Tommy john because I wanted to be comfortable. I had 831 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: enough other stuff on my mind. We were scouting, we 832 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: were in the car all day, we were meeting people. 833 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to have to worry about it. 834 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: And that's the rest. The best thing about Tommy Johnson. 835 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't ride up on you. You never have to 836 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: worry about it. You're never uncomfortable. That is It's outstanding. 837 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: The Draft Weekend dot Com absolutely get you some of 838 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: Tommy John, Tyler Tyler Potts, if you're listening, if you're 839 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: anywhere in the area, get us some more of Tommy John. Yeah, 840 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: we need John dot com forwards, last Cow and a 841 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: couple more little items. To Dane Burglar of The Beast 842 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: is coming out. You're on the final stages of that, 843 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: right Yeah, it's gonna be the final stretch right here, 844 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: next three days, finishing up, polishing it up. It's gonna 845 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: be ready Monday. Uh, follow my Twitter at DP Burglar 846 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: and to get your get the link and get your copy. Yeah, 847 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: you need you, you need you that The Beast. And 848 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: also we got the Star magazine. We're in the final 849 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: stages of putting that all together. That will all be available. 850 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, get your Star magazine, get the Beast, get 851 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: you some Tommy John, and get you some Twitter. On 852 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: the twenty David Twitter, We're gonna start with a with 853 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: a just a question from our buddy right here. Yeah, 854 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: I didn't catch your name. I'm sorry about that, but 855 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're coming out to watch us, we 856 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: should at least answer your question. Absolutely shoul answer that question. 857 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: So he wanted to hear about Justin Reid right, the 858 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: Stanford safety, which is that right? We wanted to talk 859 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: about Justin Reid, right, so we want to see about 860 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: we talked about I mean, and he kind of reminds 861 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: me of de Sean Elliott, which I think that was 862 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: another part of that question, which is asked ten different 863 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: people how you feel about him, You'll get ten different answers. 864 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: Because I've certainly seen him mocked in the first round. 865 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: I know YouTube gentlemen are not particularly high on his game, 866 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: So like, help me boil this thing down, Like what 867 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: are we actually talking about here with Justin Reid. Justin 868 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: Reid for me, was one of those go back and 869 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: watch type of guys. Yeah, because four fourth to combine, right, 870 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: I tested really well? Yeah, I mean I didn't change 871 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 1: my mind too much. But I think he minimizes mistakes 872 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: more than Elliott does. He's not stiff like Deshan Elliott is. 873 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: He doesn't labor when he's asked to turn and run. 874 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: He can do that. He has some range. He was 875 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: productive like Deshan Elliott was five picks this year. Right, 876 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: So I feel better much better by Justin Reid than 877 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: I do Elliott. It reads to me, I don't see 878 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: a first round. Guy. I see a guy's gonna be 879 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: go somewhere on day two and he's not gonna be 880 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: a big time playmaker round, but I think he could 881 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: be a solid starter in this league. Yeah, I thought 882 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: at times, and Dane's got him nail. I thought at 883 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: times he struggled with his eyes. I didn't know if 884 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: he if he always saw everything the right way. But 885 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: the ball does gravitate towards him, you know, whether it's tipped, 886 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: intercept man, whatever, the ball tends to go to him. 887 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: And I kind of liked him. I did. I thought 888 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: the athletic ability, moves well, the wrap up tackling works 889 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: to cut this guy off when he's covering. Stuff like that. 890 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: I didn't really know in the film. It didn't like 891 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: he had closing speed, but his time speed was the 892 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: four to four. Oh, and I'm kind of like that, 893 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: and that's where I think Dane was talking about. You 894 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: had to go back and say, wait a minute, now, 895 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: he didn't. I didn't. I had a note like no 896 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: closing speed, and then he runs four to four and 897 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: you're thinking, Okay, did he train to run four four 898 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: or is he that type of a player. So yeah, 899 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,439 Speaker 1: y'all wouldn't take him in the first round, But would 900 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: you be shocked if he goes in the first round. Yeah, no, no, 901 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: because of safety, not a strong safety group. Yeah, especially 902 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: a guy I think he's a free myself. Well, that's right. 903 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of like three technique, Like, yeah, find ones 904 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: like Dron Payne and some of these other guys. But 905 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 1: if you want a three technique, you better grab Taven 906 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: Bryan pretty quickly. Right with the free safety Derman James, 907 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: he can do a little bit of everything. But once 908 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: he's gone, I mean, who's the next free safety off 909 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: the boards? Maybe I'm trying to try. I'm trying. Yeah. 910 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, if you want a free safety, if you 911 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: have that need, you better get your guy early because 912 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get him later. My impression of read 913 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: is that nineteen is too rich. But I bet he's 914 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: not there at fifty. I think that's fair, certainly possible. Fair, 915 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: really good question from Perry. I mean, going back to 916 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 1: last year, we mentioned our guy Taco. Uh, you know, 917 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: the the prevailing logic coming out of last year was 918 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: that they drafted Taco because they felt better about getting 919 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,959 Speaker 1: defensive backs later in the draft. You know, they wanted 920 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 1: to get there in that of the way. They didn't 921 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: want to have to try to find one at pick sixty. 922 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: What position is that this year? You know, like where 923 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: they're I mean, by the time you get to fifty, 924 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: there's just not a lot of options. We you just 925 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,359 Speaker 1: might have mentioned this just the safety and I would 926 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: say mentioned three technique. Yeah, Maurice Hurst is a top guy. 927 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: Tavin Ban Yeah, and then and after Tavin Bryan. I mean, 928 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: who you looking? I totally agree with you because I 929 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: was looking, I mean Shepherd. Maybe do you have Shepherd 930 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: as a one? I think he's interchangeable. Yah know, he 931 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: see I have him as a three. I mean I'm 932 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: looking at I'm talking about you know, Hurst and Shepherd 933 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: and and Brian and those guys. Yeah, that's it. It's 934 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: a big, big drop off, maybe even the drop off 935 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: at tackle offensive tackle. It might be another one too, 936 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: because we we hammered early in our show about mcclinchey 937 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame, about Connor Williams and now where is it? 938 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: Is it O'Neill? Is it Colton Miller? That's fine? Yeah, 939 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: I just swallowed real hard when he said that. But no, 940 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: at Hey, but that's you know, hey, one of the 941 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: three technique. I want to mention to Sean hand Alabama. Alabama. Yeah, 942 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: worked out, He's I'm not I'm being talked about enough. 943 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: He's kind of that big defensive ent. Move him inside 944 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: the three TECHNI yeah. Someon his good production from the 945 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: You're to Go on day two and I think he's 946 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: gonna have We're gonna hear about him his rookie year. 947 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: I like it all right. I mean, Texas better be 948 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,959 Speaker 1: sending us a check for all the pub we're giving 949 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: them on this show. They were very nice to us. 950 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: They were, They really were. This is a question from 951 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: Adam which I want to know the answer to too, 952 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: because I got to look at this guy yesterday. Why 953 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 1: isn't anybody talking about Chris Warren. You know, it's funny. 954 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: I had a scout from a team. I was kind 955 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: of making a joke. I was standing there trying to 956 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: get in the way again, and I was writing next 957 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: to a couple of scouts, and I asked this one guy, 958 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: I gotta go go, I go, who are these backs 959 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: you watching? He goes that big one right there. For 960 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: anybody that does Texas, it's hiss. Yeah, exactly Cowboys. So 961 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and I'm going I'm going, you know what, 962 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: I go really and he goes, yeah, you need to 963 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: watch this guy. Go watch twenty sixteen. Yeah, yeah, that's that. 964 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: This past season was pretty much a disaster for him. Yeah, 965 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: but still I don't know what he he he is 966 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: so thick. I mean you I mean, he is huge. 967 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean when he walked by me, I'm like, going, mind, 968 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: he looks like a big tight end. Looks like a 969 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: tight end. He does. Mean, he looks like a big 970 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: tight end. I'm thinking, like, I'm like, well, where does 971 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: this guy play? But you're saying it maybe an h 972 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 1: I do, Maybe he's a guy I need to look 973 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,919 Speaker 1: at because but he caught the ball. Well, he's got 974 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: the body type. But I don't know, like an every 975 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: down back, you know. I mean, I don't mean, I 976 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: mean in a way you want to just keep handing it. 977 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if he gets better or he gets worse, 978 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: but the body type is surely there. It is one 979 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: hundred percent there. He's a little bit of a different 980 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: guy too. He Uh. When he was deciding where to 981 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: go after high school, he literally flipped a coin between 982 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: Texas and Washington Live, and he was ready to go 983 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: either way and pick Texas and that's where he ended out. 984 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: All I know is I watched him run rough shot 985 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: over Texas Tech a couple of years ago. I mean 986 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: like two hundred and something. Yeah, he's a he's an 987 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: impressive physically how he looks. Like again, I need to 988 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: go back because when he does get picked, I don't 989 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: want to be embarrassed of not being able to say, well, 990 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: this is what he did on take because the workout 991 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: wasn't terrible. But he's a prancer for a big guy 992 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: when he runs. Remember he was running the forty day. 993 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we were kind of timing him and he and 994 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: then it's like he was coming down at you. He 995 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 1: kind of looked like a big old Clydesdale running at 996 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 1: chat here. You know. Yeah, he's a traditional one cutback. 997 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: He has versatility as an h back and that's going 998 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,760 Speaker 1: to be appealing. So he gets a shot to get drafted. 999 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: I think he hasn't been able to stay healthy and 1000 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: that's been a big boat. If it comes up on 1001 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: the clock, I'll give you the team. If he comes up, 1002 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: I'll give you the team that told me like no, 1003 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: you need to watch this guy. There you go, you 1004 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: need to watch that guy. Uh. Fun fun thing about 1005 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: our show. I mean there's so many ways, there's so 1006 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: many outlets you can you can go to for draft coverage, right, 1007 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: thank you for coming to us. But I mean, like 1008 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: so many people with so many diferent opinions. And one 1009 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: of the most interesting thing about this year's draft cycle, 1010 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: and I know why because we're afraid of the big receivers. 1011 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: But we don't really talk about Courtland Sutton. We haven't. 1012 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: We like we do. I mean we've covered him, we 1013 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: covered him at the Combine four or five, five, but 1014 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: so many people talk about him in the mix for 1015 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: pick nineteen or maybe a first round pick. We don't 1016 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: talk about him that way. So it was his pro 1017 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: day today. Jason Garrett was there, Sanjay Law the receivers coach, 1018 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: also Hall, Chris Hall was there. So let's just revisit Courtland. 1019 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: I think the last time we talked about him was 1020 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: probably when he ran at the combine And just how 1021 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,959 Speaker 1: are we feeling about this guy, big physical power forward 1022 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: on the football field and you are encouraged by what 1023 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: he did the combine and you love his upside. Yeah, 1024 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 1: I do. He's my number four receiver and a big 1025 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 1: reason for that is because he's one of the few 1026 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: receivers in this draft that can actually be has potential 1027 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: to be a number one in this league. Calvin Ridley, 1028 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: as much as I love him, I think he's a 1029 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: high end number two. Same thing with DJ Moore, which 1030 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: those guys that are one as starters on my team. 1031 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 1: But if you're talking about that Julio Jones and AJ Green, 1032 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: that big number one receiver. Two guys in this draft 1033 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: stand out is having that type of potential. They're not 1034 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: there yet. But the dunder name kid Equiminia Saint Brown 1035 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 1: and then Courtland Sutton and what he did at the 1036 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: combine gives you optimism that he's going to get better 1037 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: because he's a very He's a one speed route runner, 1038 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: and that's the biggest worry, is canny separate at the 1039 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: top of routes. He can win fifty fifty balls. We 1040 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: know that, but you still have to be able to 1041 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: separate and at the NFL level, and his shuttles, his 1042 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: short area agility times we're outstanding at the combine, so 1043 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: you think he can do it. He's capable, physically capable 1044 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: he just it's going to come down to muscle memory 1045 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: and working on those finer points of the position. Just 1046 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: please let him go somewhere where they can teach him 1047 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: how to run routes. Yeah, just don't. Don't just throw 1048 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: him in the deep end of the pool and say 1049 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 1: go run routes. Because his program, he came from, his scheme, 1050 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: We talked, did him no favors about running routes. We 1051 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 1: talk all the time about how that's the strength of 1052 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: san Jay Laws. Yeah, that's absolutely can work. Absolutely. If 1053 00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna contribute in the NFL as a rookie wide receiver, 1054 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: you better have one of two things. You either be 1055 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,479 Speaker 1: a polished route runner like Michael Thomas from Ohio State 1056 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: to the Saints. He's a polished route runner, or used 1057 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: to be a physical marvel like Odell Beckham when he 1058 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: came into the league to the Giants. You have to 1059 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: be one of those two things if you're really going 1060 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,800 Speaker 1: to contribute as a rookie. And that's why for a 1061 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,719 Speaker 1: lot of these receivers we've seen Laquon Treadwell, Corey Coleman, Yeah, 1062 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have struggled. Just Daxon, we've 1063 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: seen these guys struggle early on because they're not one 1064 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,080 Speaker 1: of those two things, and it's just gonna take some 1065 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: time before they're ready to face bigger NFL defensive backs 1066 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: face press, gained chemistry with the offense, and I guess 1067 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,360 Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating to me. We'll see who's right. But 1068 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: our show, I think we look at Cortland and Sutton 1069 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: more is like pick forty to sixty ish, that's sounding fair, Yeah, 1070 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: I think yeah. I think I consider thirty maybe higher 1071 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: than that. Thirty to forty is what I would say, okay, 1072 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like other outlets consider me even higher 1073 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: than that. I mean, he is a popular pick at 1074 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: nineteen for the Cowboys. I'm fascinated to see whose opinion 1075 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: kind of turns out to be more correct. Well, and 1076 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: not sure where to go. I think opinions on him 1077 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: are pretty similar. Just the value that's kind of hard 1078 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,839 Speaker 1: to pinpoint, because again we're talking about upside a guy 1079 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,719 Speaker 1: who has to learn how to run routes and maybe 1080 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 1: he can do it, maybe he can't. We won't really 1081 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: know until he gets into an NFL training camp. I mean, 1082 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: look at Laquon Treadwell. You know he has had a 1083 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: tough time adjusting to everything it takes from a mental 1084 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: standpoint at the NFL. Maybe we're just a now. I 1085 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: think Dane has got him right. Yeah, I think that 1086 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,359 Speaker 1: Dane has him right. And where he's gonna go. I 1087 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: think he's got him in his ability to right. I 1088 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: just to me, I just want to I just hope 1089 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: he goes to a place where they can work with 1090 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: him as a out room where they can because he 1091 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: has the ability. I mean you can see for his 1092 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: height he moves well. Yeah, and the shuttles basketball. Yeah, 1093 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: you know this. This the film will show you that 1094 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: he can move well. He really really can't. I've got 1095 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: a great outside the box question from Yeah, this is 1096 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: the last one if we could, because we got a 1097 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: transfer over here. But we got to answer this because 1098 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. But we just talked about 1099 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: safety kind of thin. Don't love your prospects after you 1100 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: know one or two guys go off the board. Would 1101 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,280 Speaker 1: you consider drafting a top tier cornerback with the thought 1102 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: process of mooding moving Cheeto Woozier to safety? Is that 1103 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: that sounds I don't like the idea of moving you 1104 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: as you took Byron Jones from safety and made him 1105 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: corner this team, this team has not been great at that. 1106 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: That's been a little bit of a problement. Exception of 1107 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: maybe Keith and Rob forty eight games in with Byron 1108 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: Jones and now you're trying to play it. You think 1109 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: teams think about stuff like that, is like, well, sure, absolutely, 1110 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure they do. And where did the Woozier start? 1111 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: But he got hurt the first time he was in 1112 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: the Green Bay game playing safety. But the thing with 1113 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: the Woozier is we saw him in Colorado absolutely, we 1114 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: saw him absolutely hybrid linebacker absolutely. So that's the biggest 1115 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: difference between some of these corners. I'm looking down these 1116 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 1: the corner list, a guy like Isaiah Oliver, could he 1117 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: do that? Probably? Probably? So, yeah, we've never seen him 1118 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: do something like that. And it's a hard thing to 1119 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: take a guy top twenty overall and play them in 1120 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,000 Speaker 1: a position you've never seen him. A little different. We're 1121 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: talking about moving Zach Martin to guard. That's much different 1122 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 1: than talking about moving a corner to safety. It's just 1123 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: it's a much different position and we've never seen him 1124 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: do it. All right, So what can I sell you 1125 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 1: on Mike Cues at nineteen. I love I love my cues. 1126 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a big Mike Cues. I don't 1127 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: think Dane's as big a fan of Mike Cues as 1128 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: I am, though I haven't top twenty five in my book. Yeah, 1129 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: I love my cues. Any of these corners, if they're 1130 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 1: available at nineteen, would you move? That's what I'm saying. 1131 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: We think about doing that. I don't. I might do Hughes. 1132 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like to move, but 1133 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 1: I might do Hughes. I know I'm not gonna get ward. 1134 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: I know I'm not just and just get Hey, yeah, 1135 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: give me the best player and yeah out we're trade 1136 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: up from trade up, trade up. All right, Hey, that's 1137 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: all the time that we do have for the Draft show. 1138 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: We don't want to thank everybody out there. I want 1139 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: to thank all the the camera folks, all the people 1140 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: with We also got so Chris Beam working with us 1141 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: here outside. Were appreciating keeping today. Coming up next, our 1142 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: boots are made for talking. We got Robin and Jessica. 1143 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,919 Speaker 1: They're going to join the stage here. We've already seen 1144 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: him taking some pictures. We're gonna be with you won't 1145 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: have a draft show for you Monday. Why is that, Brian, 1146 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: Because I'm out on assignment. Brian's going to the Masters, everybody, 1147 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see a Mary Jealous. I'm going for 1148 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: practice round. So but we'll be back Thursday and we'll 1149 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: get you all things caught up on NFL drafts from 1150 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: my guys here, Dame Brigler, David Helmet, I'm Brian Bross, 1151 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: and keep watching that tape. We'll see you something. 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