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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast doesn't know what a Matten code is.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Serious XM. My name is Dan hands As

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Speaker 1: I am joined and he re filled with heroes Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What is up, boys? Hey? Dan,

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Speaker 1: You've been plummixed by the Internet and the Madden code

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Speaker 1: craze sweeping across Twitter right now. Uh tell us why

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Speaker 1: it is that the codes confuse you so well? Growing up,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have codes for vine. I assumed it was

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Speaker 1: the Springsteen music for this. I assumed it was something

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Speaker 1: that like major players stronger or better. Instead, it's just

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Speaker 1: a way to download the actual game, which I should

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Speaker 1: have deduced, but I didn't. It's like back in my day,

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Speaker 1: we used to have to go up hills both ways,

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Speaker 1: go up up, up, down down b A B A

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Speaker 1: start start to make our players better. We did like

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Speaker 1: when you guys, the four of you get together to

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Speaker 1: talk about video games, which games do you talk about?

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Speaker 1: And I had to bring it to them. This is

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Speaker 1: not exactly not actually a gamer quartet if we've ever

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Speaker 1: done that when I talked about sure, but I don't appreciate,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I understand the money tag isn't allowed

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Speaker 1: to go on and on and clarify and be nuanced.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be clipped and you're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: the point. But it makes us all look like we

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Speaker 1: don't understand that. I'm I understand how how the codes

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Speaker 1: were here? This Mark Sessler is with me, Well, he's hip.

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Speaker 1: It's the Friday Show. Get excited a little bit of drama.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday Thursday, Ricky came after our own listeners on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: demanding that they stopped sending money tags, which you know,

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Speaker 1: I that rubbed me a little wrong way. I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: because the listeners are by we asked them to do that,

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Speaker 1: and Erica had no problem on the show saying yes,

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Speaker 1: send them to at Erica, tamp post the NFL whatever,

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Speaker 1: tamp post the NFL. And then you're telling the listeners

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Speaker 1: don't dare send me any more money tags. What's where's

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Speaker 1: the breakdown here? Okay? First of all, you just said

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Speaker 1: send them to me and said up, let's make a

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Speaker 1: thread or anything. I've had people continue to send more

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Speaker 1: and more. I mean sending that out. It's only asking

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Speaker 1: for more, So send money hashtag money tags to Erica

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Speaker 1: team post No, send them all to Greg Rosenthal. Help

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Speaker 1: mute you all like you already are? Who is there?

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Speaker 1: All right? Maybe what where the breakdown is? Here? Is?

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Speaker 1: You know? Is there a different handle to send it to?

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Speaker 1: How can we make this better for you? Because I

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Speaker 1: was snapping at the listeners not the right way to

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Speaker 1: go about this. What can we do snapping at the listeners?

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of a bit though. It's like, hey, engagement,

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Speaker 1: You actually know that, like forty people are going to

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Speaker 1: respond to them when you do that, so it's all

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Speaker 1: like fun in games. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know how you get mad about like two tweets about

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Speaker 1: something on the show, Imagine hundreds and hundreds of them separately.

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Speaker 1: My phone is going off saying around the nf BO

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Speaker 1: like lakes hot peppers, I've gotten that four hundredfications. By

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Speaker 1: the way, where you clear? He actually I had a suggestion.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't the hashtag eliminate the need for anybody to send

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Speaker 1: it to you? You can just click on the hashtag, right,

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Speaker 1: But they're tagging me, they're sending them to me. I

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Speaker 1: think he showed great documents how this could be improved,

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Speaker 1: and I should. Here was the tweet sent nineteen hours.

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Speaker 1: Back in my day, we didn't have hashtags. We just wrote.

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Speaker 1: We just wrote on other people's backs. That's a tic

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Speaker 1: tac toe symbol. Actually at Tampos, the NFL stop tweeting

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Speaker 1: money text to me. I am not in the mood.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a little bit. It had been a

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Speaker 1: wanted and no offense. They're all really terrible, bad. I

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Speaker 1: saw a couple of good ones. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You're you're savvy enough that you literally know that sending

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Speaker 1: off too. I'm just telling it's constant. All right. Well,

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Speaker 1: so I think what I think Wes's idea is a

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Speaker 1: have any ran. This was a rant. They're terrible stop Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have literally people being like oh man Mark Susler

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Speaker 1: word he go, hashtag money, tag like times like be creative,

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Speaker 1: no offense. So you're frustration if I'm getting let me

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Speaker 1: see if I got this right. Your frustration isn't so

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Speaker 1: by the content creators in this case. Right, you just

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Speaker 1: want people to be better, be better, and also tag

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Speaker 1: all the guys too. Let's see how you how you

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Speaker 1: like negative on the second part of that. But she's

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Speaker 1: not wrong. Oh, you don't want to be tagged in it.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to get all those notifications. But I

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Speaker 1: think it seems really annoying. You've got a clear channel

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Speaker 1: when it's going through one. Right, some of these are

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Speaker 1: NFL podcast, the Dan Hands, this vanity project. That's that's funny.

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Speaker 1: like that one. It's funny. It's funny, all right, Ricky.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to see you upset, but I'm actually surprised.

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Speaker 1: I kind of bringing up kind of as a joke

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Speaker 1: Erica's apartment on fire Ranty Hollywood. It's called a solid

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Speaker 1: ranty Thank you, Mark. I mean, I could imagine just

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Speaker 1: from I think we all know that you tweet something

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Speaker 1: actually gotten into you become a real cinephile, Mark, I'm

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Speaker 1: not becoming like I know you, like you know what

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Speaker 1: I gotta fill I gotta fill the time with something.

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Speaker 1: But it's like that is like eight people every time,

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Speaker 1: and it's like blow me up. Is as the Browns

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Speaker 1: always been on your radar. Um as as I've said

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Speaker 1: good football movies exist. People are now lifting that up

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Speaker 1: the most scenes with Costner and the capologist Jennifer Garner,

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Speaker 1: and tell me if that's a good movie. Let me

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Speaker 1: show already. Uh oh, we're bringing it back. We did

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Speaker 1: it last summer, and yes, with training camp in full

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Speaker 1: the idea of the doghouse. Well, you want to hear

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Speaker 1: what these conversations are behind closed doors. So how about

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Speaker 1: NFL teams. But before that, oh, also, um our buddy,

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Speaker 1: uh Gil Brandt Dallas Cowboys. Great is going into the

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Speaker 1: serious exam. Let's do some news. Ricky deep jam came

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Speaker 1: detacking Detacking Deecher vox by Jason Zammal. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say that sounded like all out that we do. Why

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Speaker 1: geme deep choom. It hasn't been picked up yet, Jason.

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Speaker 1: harder when the former first round pick washes out. Let's

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Speaker 1: start the news by talking about the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 1: ahead of time. And it didn't feel like there was

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Speaker 1: an outline by the time I was going to best Wes.

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Speaker 1: What good did it do you? In the end, I

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Speaker 1: got well, I took a pot shot from Dan on

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Speaker 1: Trey Boston, which you know what, that's what friends do.

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Speaker 1: You know what I would have called a pot shot.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Trey Boston, he watched out with the Chargers

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Speaker 1: and Cardinals. Hell, he washed out with the Panthers, but

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Speaker 1: now he's back. I thought it was interesting based on

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Speaker 1: the Dante Jackson factor from UM All or Nothing, where

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Speaker 1: Mike Adams and UM captain Munterland were in his face

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Speaker 1: quite often, basically telling him he needs to be a

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Speaker 1: better player, He needed to stop making excuses for himself,

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Speaker 1: he need to stop coasting on his defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Month award and now bring in a different kind

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Speaker 1: of leadership. So we'll see what how Trey Boston UM

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Speaker 1: relationship with Dante Jackson goes. Good luck to you, Trey.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, Melvin Gordon holdout Chargers no end in sight.

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Speaker 1: ESPN is Josina Anderson reports Gordon's agent requested a trade

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Speaker 1: last week and here's a deal. I mean once ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Well, that's what the Charger charges

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Speaker 1: on ten million dollars a year. Chargers, you know that's

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Speaker 1: what they think he's worth. He thinks he's worth Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley Zike Zike Elliot type money. Well, that's quite an impass.

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Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen here? I think this could go

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Speaker 1: into the season. I I wrote an article, not a banger,

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Speaker 1: an article for Friday, just like ranking like which players

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Speaker 1: had the most leverage of all these backs, of all

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Speaker 1: these holdouts, and Gordon was has the least leverage just about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not really counting Jadev and Clowney is

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Speaker 1: unsigned because I don't. I think the just think they

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Speaker 1: can win without him With Justin Jackson, Austin Ekeler. He's

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Speaker 1: in the fifth year of his contract, so that means

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Speaker 1: he has to show up eventually. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna trade him because I don't think there would

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Speaker 1: be a good enough market for him. And this is

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Speaker 1: the only hold out that I think is maybe fifty

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Speaker 1: fifth or grader to go into the regular season. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the most one sided holdouts I've ever seen. Right,

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Speaker 1: he and his agent keep releasing these statements and quotes

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Speaker 1: and the charge it just pat him on the head

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Speaker 1: and say that's nice. Worth four, Fine, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting though, like he's friends with Levy on Bell.

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Speaker 1: He he believes in like the higher purpose of that

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Speaker 1: running but he says the running back for the second

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Speaker 1: are the second most valuable position in sports. And then

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Speaker 1: I'm not showing up unless he and I just think

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Speaker 1: I don't know where the middle ground is because I

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Speaker 1: don't think they'll trade him. If someone comes to them

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Speaker 1: and says we'll give you, like a bad team says

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a second round pick for him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they do it, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: And you pointed out well in your article, did he

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Speaker 1: he if he's taking a page out of the Levy

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Speaker 1: on Bell best selling book from last season, that it's

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Speaker 1: not the same thing, because you don't you're not moving

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Speaker 1: into free agency after this. He's not on his second

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Speaker 1: straight franchise, nag. It's totally different and he's not. And

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Speaker 1: more importantly, he's not Levian Bell. If he was Levian Bell,

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Speaker 1: they would just give him Todd Gurley money. Reality. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine a world? And I like Melvin Gordon with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers where like it's they're very offensive. They're all

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Speaker 1: an offensive powerhouse today with all these pieces are on

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Speaker 1: the field. But let's say Melvin Gordon is not there

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Speaker 1: a year from now, and yes, like the depth of

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Speaker 1: running back, but Melvin Gordon is a good player. And

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Speaker 1: then Philip Rivers walks away, You're suddenly a team based

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Speaker 1: around a strong defense and not your offense. If they

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Speaker 1: have leverage, if if they think they have leverage, that's

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Speaker 1: it is that this is a win now team that

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Speaker 1: needs him. But he'll be back at some point. I

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Speaker 1: think they they're calling his bluff. April I wrote an

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Speaker 1: article on Melvin Gordon quotes and the title of the

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Speaker 1: article is Saved the running Back. I'm coming into the

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Speaker 1: league to make sure running backs get paid by running

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Speaker 1: back so hung up on being the heroes that will

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Speaker 1: get all the other running backs paid. It's like their

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Speaker 1: version of being the deal the wide receivers or divas

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Speaker 1: in their own way. The dB, they're like the podcasters

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Speaker 1: of the NFL media group. They're like, we do not

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Speaker 1: get paid, are you know like the rest of the

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Speaker 1: quote unquote you know talent, Let's let's stand up, Like

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Speaker 1: I like i'like them though, they like they have more

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Speaker 1: of a backbone than us, though, rage against the dying

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Speaker 1: of They don't want to become fullbacks. They don't want

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Speaker 1: to become extinct. Now they're like getting towards endangered species status.

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Speaker 1: You know, the running backs that are gonna disappear, They

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Speaker 1: just not gonna get paid. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 1: the running game is always gonna be impartant. Well, every

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Speaker 1: year they run less and less and and um, there

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Speaker 1: are fewer and fewer workhorse backs. There are a fewer

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Speaker 1: and fewer backs who are worthy of huge contracts because

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Speaker 1: you could just pick anyone undrafted guys late late draft picked,

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Speaker 1: throw them in and have a good rushing. Evan Silva's

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00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: gonna officially take out any coach that runs on first

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Speaker 1: or second down. So you know things are heading in

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Speaker 1: the wrong direction. Uh. Moving on, Yahoo Sports put out

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Speaker 1: a piece entitled most Tortured NFL fan Bases, and it

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Speaker 1: was sent to me by quite a few people on

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Speaker 1: Twitter who like a Dan this guy's you know, biting

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Speaker 1: off your bit and yes, when the pain rankings were released,

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Speaker 1: that was a fairly unique piece of content in the

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Speaker 1: NFL sphere. I wouldn't say this man stole my idea.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a fun topic. Anybody can get into it.

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Speaker 1: What I do have an issue with is the actual rankings.

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Speaker 1: J bust absurd. Let's go through it real quick. Number

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Speaker 1: ten the Raiders, nine the Packers and come on down there,

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear this is this is how you get the clicks. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you have greater expectations, it hurts even more. Now,

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Speaker 1: how about just sucking forever and never having quarterback? That's worse.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Vikings seven forty niners, one of the most

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Speaker 1: successful franchises in his three of the NFL UH six

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, five the Detroit Lions for the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 1: three the Washington Redskins to the New York Jets, and

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Speaker 1: the number one most tortured NFL fan base, the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. The New York Giants four times Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 1: one of the most highly regarded NFL franchises in the

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Speaker 1: history of professional football. They have the most tortured fan base.

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Speaker 1: Come back to us, come back to us. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even it doesn't even deserve a comment that the Browns

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Speaker 1: aren't in here because they have had won seven win season,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the last twenties something years. Okay, but

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Speaker 1: is this I need to clarify or know what this

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Speaker 1: is about. Is this what's fans that are tortured over

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Speaker 1: the last three or four months like days? Is that

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Speaker 1: qualify as torture? That's I mean, you've got to best that.

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00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of both lived in the moment and then

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Speaker 1: it has teams that has none of us read the

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Speaker 1: article and uh well, I mean I'm just looking at

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Speaker 1: the list. I'm just looking at the list. I did

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Speaker 1: read the article. Was there a logic to that, yes,

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Speaker 1: it would just based on this offseason or something. No,

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Speaker 1: it was. I can't tell you it was based on

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Speaker 1: good logic. It's just I mean, I'm I'm not really

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Speaker 1: arguing with that. It's an insane It just kind of

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Speaker 1: blew my mind to see the Giants. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you grew up in the New York, New Jersey area

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Speaker 1: and you think the Giants have a more painful history

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Speaker 1: than the Jets, does it bother you that the Browns

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Speaker 1: are not on in the top ten of this They

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Speaker 1: probably should be. I mean, you know, why because no

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Speaker 1: teams is hyped. I mean, who wants to be I mean,

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Speaker 1: who's lucked into more Super Bowls than the Giants. They're

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Speaker 1: the opposite. They're like, you know, sprinkled with good fortune.

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Speaker 1: Here's a nine win team winning a Super Bowl. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, overall, I agree. I don't think the author

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Speaker 1: understands what the word tortured means. Go through, go through it,

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Speaker 1: and then write the article. Um, all right, let's hit

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Speaker 1: some eight o'clock to light Oh Mark, sorry, bro. Phil

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00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: Dawson announced his retirement after twenty years, an inaugural member

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Speaker 1: of the Dog Pound when it was revived. Kind of

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Speaker 1: hoping he would come back to the Browns, maybe this

578
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: one final season. But the one kick if his will

579
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Speaker 1: never forget, was this insane snow game against the Bills.

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Speaker 1: They beat Buffalo eight nothing to move to nine and

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Speaker 1: five back in two thousand and seven, and Phil Dawson

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Speaker 1: hit this kick in the middle of a blinding snowstorm.

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Speaker 1: I love the guy. The most famous blizzard kick of

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Speaker 1: that decade, I say. Moving on. Tom Brady th h

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Speaker 1: i C C. Patriots quarterback bolt up to two pounds

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Speaker 1: this offseason, turning forty two next week. Twenty years in

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Speaker 1: the league and that boy Vick Mark Yep, why not

588
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Baron Winner? But you know, I think it's supervent those injuries.

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00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: A lot of sense of Really Brady has played with

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00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: little stuff that you never even hear about. Uh. Brady

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Speaker 1: can make you a lot slower too. I would think

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Speaker 1: you want to be nibble. Where are we just told?

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Speaker 1: For the best seven years of Tom Brady. He's been

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Speaker 1: able to extend his career because he's so limber for

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Speaker 1: this with his body seems to have mastered that open

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Speaker 1: the brandic scenario. Antonio Callaway consistently been part of the

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Speaker 1: second team in training camp for the Browns. According to

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Plane Plane Dealer at a shape West Callaway

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00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: he showed flashes last year, but he's got to get

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Speaker 1: it together. This feels like a message being sent. I

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Speaker 1: think Richard Higgins has running ahead of him with the

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Speaker 1: starters and three wide receiver sets. Antonio Callaway is way

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00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: more talented than Richard Higgins. I expect to see Callaway

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Speaker 1: eventually get back in the starting lineup. This doesn't sound good.

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Speaker 1: Greg Rossetal. Speaking Thursday, Pete Carroll, Seahawks coach, said that

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Speaker 1: first round. That's a been LJ. Collier's ankle spraying is

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00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: quote rare. It's not a garden variety sprain at all.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge problem. He was already running with the

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Speaker 1: third team. Zigianza hasn't practiced. Jarn Reed is suspended, and

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Speaker 1: they have a bunch of guys who have barely produced

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Speaker 1: at the NFL level starting up and down their defensive line.

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Speaker 1: More bad news for rookies. Jaguars third round linebacker Quincy

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Speaker 1: william he's done four to six weeks, has a slight

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Speaker 1: tear in his meniscus. This is just killer West. When

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Speaker 1: a rookie goes down, it's your boy, Quinnin Williams. Brother,

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Speaker 1: what yeah, brother? And he the coaches have said that

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Speaker 1: Quincy Williams, we don't want to offend any of you

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, but this is the fastest player on the

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Speaker 1: field for the jam he was starting, He was their starter.

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Speaker 1: He was gonna step in and take over for Telvin Smith. Finally,

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Speaker 1: free agent wider super Brandon Marshall working out for the

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Speaker 1: Cults up Friday. Last chance to get in the playoffs. Marked.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I thought the guy wanted to get on television.

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Speaker 1: Good job, eight o'clock to light. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: finish that point? You really didn't have much more to say.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was in eight o'clock to light,

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Speaker 1: so I was glad to hear the music stopping. It.

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Speaker 1: Did a great job by Erica. Brandon Marshall. He has

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Speaker 1: never been to the playoffs. The Colts. They're playing in

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Speaker 1: January West. If I was trying to get on a

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Speaker 1: team and I was Brandon Marshall, the Colts would rank

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Speaker 1: near the bottom. Considering they already have They're already gonna

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Speaker 1: have tough cuts at wide receiver without Brandon Marshall. One

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Speaker 1: of the best interviews we ever had on our podcast.

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Speaker 1: I don't know thou bringing in Brandon Marshall is a

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Speaker 1: sign that they're maybe not too happy with their No,

637
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: it's not was it the was it the other Brandon Marshalls. No,

638
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: it's not. It's wide receiver. Brandon Marshall. We had a

639
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: lot of shows, a lot of shows, um before we

640
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: get to fly on the wall. Congratulations in order for

641
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: NFL media colleague Gil Brandt, who will be inducted into

642
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and Canton the Pro Football Hall

643
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: of Fame. This Weekend. Gil has been really for a

644
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: decade with NFL Network and NFL dot Com is um,

645
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, uh, one of our lead scouts and kind

646
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: of a senior writer type position. But if you are

647
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: not aware of what Gil was all about before that, um,

648
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: he was a architect of those Dallas Cowboy great teams

649
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies along with Tom Landry. Um he

650
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: was the guy. He was the guy behind the scenes

651
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: for twenty nine years. He was their personnel guru, working

652
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: with Landry and Tex Shram Uh their GM as the

653
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: organization built itself up from uh Nowheresville. They didn't even

654
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: win a game in their expansion year and they became

655
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: America's team. And that was all Gil Gerald. Jones came

656
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: on board and swept everybody out, including Gil. So consider

657
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: it someone ironic that is Jerry Jones that is inducting

658
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: Gil brand into the Hall of Fame. But you know

659
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: how the Cowboys are West. The Cowboys are a big family.

660
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: They love their guys who are the legendary figures. They

661
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: take care of the So that's kind of a nice

662
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: way to close the book. Uh, not close the book,

663
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: but to put him into canon. Andy thoughts about gil

664
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: as a historian, west Well, I think one of the

665
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: most valuable aspects of learning history is seeing that everything

666
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: isn't a new idea just because it's happening now, so

667
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: that not everything is a revolution that gil Brandt was

668
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: a draft nick uh in nineteen nineteen fifties, when gms

669
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: are still selecting players out of street in Smith magazine

670
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: that he had he and tex Stram developed a huge

671
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: network of informants and they had computerized scouting analytics. In

672
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: the early sixties. Basically, the Cowboys refined the art and

673
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: science of scouting as we know it today. They were

674
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: doing things in the sixties like um the trend towards

675
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: basketball playing tight ends. They were looking for basketball players

676
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: who were tweeners, not tall enough to play forward but

677
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: a little too tall to play guard, and seeing if

678
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: they could turn them into football players. In the nineteen seventies,

679
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: gil Brandt said, had I wish there was a way

680
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: to stick a needle in a guy's arm and find

681
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: out whether he wants to play football or not. That

682
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: will be the next breakthrough and scouting. And you've seen

683
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: just in the last five years that that that's been.

684
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jeremiah has said, you know, twenty years

685
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: ago the off field stuff, the human element was of scouting,

686
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: and now it's seventy percent of scouting. Gil Brandt saw

687
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: that in the nineteen seventies. I thought the piece that

688
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Andy Fenelon wrote on him shows another side too, and

689
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: that one of the reasons that Jerry Jones is introing

690
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: Gil brand at the Hall of Fame is because it

691
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been unusual for gil Brandt, who worked closely

692
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: with Hollywood Henderson of Cowboys Great when he was going

693
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: through really tough stuff in life too and had so

694
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: many friends um as players, to pick a player to

695
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: intro him. But he had so many close friends and

696
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: it would have annoyed or agitated anyone he didn't pick.

697
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 1: So Jerry Jones became the guy. But we have known

698
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: Gil Brandt by working here for a decade, and there's

699
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: one thing about him. Every time he sees you, he

700
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: it's not a you know these days everyone's all about themselves.

701
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: He stops, he sits down, he wants to talk. He

702
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: must asked about your family. He'll drop a major NFL

703
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: nugget on you that kind of leaves you devastated. And

704
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: then he'll go on his way. I mean he's gotten,

705
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: he's got no end of the stories. But I just

706
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: think that he's one of these guys that always made

707
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: the personal connection with the player. It wasn't just about

708
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: the football player, it was the person. And that's that

709
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: is increasingly rare with a lot of front office types

710
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: in general. Yeah, the PC Andy rote is uh NFL

711
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: dot com slash Scout's honor vanity you r l And

712
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean he showed some tough love with Hollywood Henderson,

713
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: who is who is a great Cowboys running back who

714
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: ran into the drug and legal problems. And I think

715
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: his relationship with these guys was unique because he found

716
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: them in strange places. That's what the computer kind of did.

717
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: And Gil talked about it with Michelle Defoya during the

718
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game. He found Bob Hayes at Florida

719
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: and m he found Rayfield right at Fort Valley State.

720
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: You found Cliff Harris, watch it, watch it a Baptist,

721
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: uh ed two Tall Jones at Tennessee State. These are

722
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: all these guys that are Pro Bowlers or Hall of

723
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: Famers and other teams were not kind of beating down

724
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: the doors at these really small schools or historically black schools,

725
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: or D two, D three schools, and Gil, who had

726
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: kind of revolutionized the scouting game with that computer, was

727
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: trust in it and and that's where they found these guys.

728
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: And I mean he has seen the NFL from a

729
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: unique manage point about is as much as anyone living.

730
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: And you can always get like a great story from

731
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: him because of that. I mean, he's seen it when

732
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: the NFL was was an afterthought as a professional league.

733
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: I have a friend who's a doctor, and he told

734
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: me once that when you save someone's life, you they

735
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: become like family to you, like kids, because you gave

736
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: them an opportunity to do something, and it makes up

737
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: for the ones you lost. So when they take advantage

738
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: of that opportunity, you're giving them time that they wouldn't

739
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: have had. And in the quote from from Gil where

740
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: he says, as much as Thomas Henderson did wrong, I

741
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: never lost faith in him. I still consider him like

742
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: one of my children because I scouted him, I drafted him,

743
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: I signed him. He was and still is part of

744
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: my family. You gave that guy the opportunity, and when

745
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: you give somebody an opportunity, you want to see them

746
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: make the most out of it. Gil eighty six years

747
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: old now by the way, but still got the motor.

748
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: We see him at every big event. He's always up

749
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: and around, moving around talking to people. Uh he did

750
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: a seven city training camp tour. That's insane. It's incredible.

751
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm marking our early days in NFL dot com. One

752
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: of our jobs would be to talk to Gil as

753
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: he went through hundreds of you know players that he

754
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: was scouting and helping put together the pieces uh Gil

755
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: scouting reports and NFL dot Com. That was one of

756
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 1: the first jobs we had. Um. So it's it's fun

757
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: to now see that same guy and be able to

758
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: talk to on the phone at his house in Texas

759
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: and now he's in the hall and knew it. And

760
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: to be honest that it's not the easiest process because

761
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Gil would call you up with a bundle of verbal information,

762
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: so you are typing as fast as you can. And

763
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Dan and I were we were we were came in

764
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: from other jobs and started the NFL is three day

765
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: a week or is trying we had we were married,

766
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to just get by. So you're working your butt

767
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: off to show that you're better than the clown next

768
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: to you. And the problem with those guil things was

769
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: we got a little too good at them and like us,

770
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I want Dan, I want that guy mock like that.

771
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: He didn't want it. It's like another one of these

772
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: hour and a half like pro days from East western

773
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: Texas state. Well he also he also this is how

774
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: he submitted it. When he would write some stuff out,

775
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: he would write it in longhand and then facts the longhand.

776
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: That is alright, So Gilbert Brand, congratulations, well deserved. All right,

777
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: so let's move on. Everybody wants to be a fly

778
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: on the wall sometimes, and what we're gonna do is

779
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: turn into not human flies. I remember there was little

780
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: uh disconnect their confusion last year. I want to make

781
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: this abundantly clear. This is not a Jeff Goldblum situation.

782
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: We're not turning into hideous monsters. You're actually going to

783
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: be and you won't have the brain of a fly. Okay.

784
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: I just want you to understand you're the size of

785
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: a customary house fly. Uh. And it gives you access

786
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: that you can then I guess turned back into human

787
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: and then share the info. Are there any questions in

788
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: this room before we go on? Yeah? I have a few,

789
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: but I like, I just I'd love to see someone

790
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: else try first, because I completely missed the assignment. Okay,

791
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you think that the metaphor you don't

792
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: need to think about, like do I have like a

793
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: fly wife? Now? No, I mean, just let's he did.

794
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: It was I'm very afraid how the segment is going

795
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: to go now. I thought it's pretty clear. I think

796
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: going once around the horse, I would like to be

797
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: a fly in the wall in Carolina, in the coaches room,

798
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: in the quarterbacks room, and to hear the conversations that

799
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: are going on between Cam Newton and his coaches and

800
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: between the coaches talking about Cam Newton, because I think

801
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: right now and and yeah, there were cameras there last year,

802
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of where I feel like you

803
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: have a little better sense of the way that Cam

804
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: Newton is a leader and the kind of just the

805
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: atmosphere he creates yea with all his chat and all

806
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: his talking, and some of that seems to be gone

807
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: right now, and he seems to be a little down,

808
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: and he has missed three of the first seven practices.

809
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: He is saying he is getting used to a new

810
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: normal that he realizes he may never be a hundred

811
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: percent again, and he's not chirping as much on the

812
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: practice yield. Uh And when he spoke like on Thursday,

813
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: it it raised some alarms for me. Uh if I

814
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: was a Panthers fan just about how mortal and how

815
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: down he felt right now. In fact, I would be

816
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: very interested to be that fly on that wall to see.

817
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: Is is that behind the scenes too? And are the

818
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: coaches thinking, Okay, we're gonna adapt some things to this

819
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: new Cam Newton. That's fair, It's a good question. That's fair.

820
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: You you wonder that, I think Peter King wrote about

821
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: it this week that you know Cam Newton is putting

822
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: away his cape? Is it? Is it? Obviously Christian McCaffrey

823
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: took on a bigger role that offense last year. Is

824
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: that essentially the new normal now? But that team and

825
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: if you watched All or Nothing, that one thing with

826
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 1: the All or Nothing, Amazon needs to an NFL Films

827
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: needs to get it right with the release date. They

828
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: released it during the draft last year, which got snowed under,

829
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: and then it was a little too close to training

830
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: camps this year, So I don't know if and once

831
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: training camp starts every he turns the page from what

832
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: happens in especially if the team featured had a depressing end.

833
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: You know. So I don't know how many people saw

834
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: all or nothing. I still think it's well worth it.

835
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: I really, I really enjoyed it um and the things

836
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: that I took out of it. It's interesting is they're

837
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: coming up in the show. Ryan Khalil came out, came

838
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: off to me as a great leader and a guy

839
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: that you would want in an offensive Lineman meeting room.

840
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton came off to me as a different dude,

841
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: an eccentric guy, a guy that some people too. Yeah,

842
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: I thought he came off well, and I was surprised by,

843
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: you know, kind of he's a little bit out there

844
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: and and but he's so carefree and you see the

845
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: way he operated in practice. If if he's not like

846
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: that now, maybe it's just a matter of time. It's

847
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: still early. It is, it is still early. But the

848
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: the quote that really struck me too was I don't

849
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: want people out there to just think that Cam is back.

850
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm that that etha and I'm not back, and and

851
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: and the reporters saying that it's so much quieter there,

852
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: and he said, it's partly because I don't have Thomas

853
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: Davis or Josh Norman honking at me. So I'm not

854
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: honking at them, but they're just saying it's just been

855
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: a different it's been a different m O and the

856
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: fact that he's not really practicing that much now just

857
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: is worth I think monitoring. We saw that, We've seen

858
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: this with quarterbacks coming off shoulder injuries. Yeah, it feels

859
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: a lot like Andrew Luck last year. Uh, let us

860
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: go to Seattle. Let's let's let's fly on into the

861
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: Seahawks facility. Let's get on Jamie Graham's plane. What's that?

862
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: Remember when Jimmy Graham used to fly to practice on

863
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: his plane. Yeah, he was at best. By the way,

864
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: this is the forty year anniversary of therm events and

865
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: the Yankee Great Catcher's plane crash. I would always be

866
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: spooked if my favorite player friend was flying around in

867
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: a little prop plane. We've lost a lot of athletes

868
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: to musicians. Corey Littel, Harrison Ford has crashed twice and

869
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: lived twice. YEA, let's calm down, Indy, get out of

870
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: the plane. He cat He crashed on a golf course,

871
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: right next to Andrews Siciliano, who was Santa Monica. Santa Monica.

872
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: He just went in an autograph. Anyway, the fly has

873
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: now proceeded to Seahawks. Uh, the Seahawks facility and listen,

874
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: this is great. I mean, if you're if you trust

875
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: the evaluation talents of John Schneider, Pete Carre all the

876
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: people in that building, there's no reason not to. That's

877
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: been a very that's been a highly functional, high functioning

878
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: organization for years. Now. Um, you feel good about the

879
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: positive news around DK Metcalf there, Uh, second round pick

880
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver, it's it's glowing. I mean, he was drafted

881
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: sixty four overall. This is a guy who was thought

882
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: to be um a first round pick, but then there

883
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: was some red flags. People got a little worked up

884
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: over his inability to stay on the field, maybe some

885
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: questioning his ability in terms of, you know, his hands.

886
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: So he almost falls out of the second round. The

887
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks get him, and all through so far spring and summer,

888
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: we we are hearing raves about Metcalf, who was working

889
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: with the first team, and they it seems like they

890
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: want to install him right off the bat as the

891
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: guy and I just wonder, uh, if behind the scenes,

892
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: if it's as glowing as it is on the outside,

893
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: if they really want this guy to step in and

894
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: immediately be a pro and a playmaker and a guy

895
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: that can give you what you need from a number

896
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: two wide receiver for a contender, which is you know,

897
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: close to a thousand yards. You want a guy that's

898
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: get finding the end zone, that's making an instant impact.

899
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: So Tyler Lockett with Doug Baldwin gone, that's gonna be

900
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: he has to step up and you're gonna need an

901
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: immediate impact from Metcalf. So I'm interested how that's gonna

902
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: play out. You have David Moore there, Geron Brown, you

903
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: can get excited. I guess about some other guys. I

904
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, you guys tell me, but I feel like

905
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: a lot the eggs in the Metcalf basket are vast,

906
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: and you hope it works out. You trust that organization,

907
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,479
Speaker 1: but I'd like to know what's going on by the scenes,

908
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: if they really believe they've found something special here. Deep

909
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: in the second round, there were some bizarre reports whispers

910
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: coming out of that camp that he was starting to

911
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: annoy people by his behavior on the field. He was

912
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: having the wide receivers line up and pose according to height,

913
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: and he was doing other things on the field that

914
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: was like taking away from the concentration on football. It

915
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: was it was a bizarre, bizarre report. It does seem

916
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: like a team that would be content to run the

917
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: ball seventy one times a game, but that's you can't

918
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: just dictate that you're gonna do that. It's a huge question.

919
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: And the four guys you mentioned, I think you know,

920
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: David Moore, John Brown, DK Metcalf behind Locke. It seems

921
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: like that's kind of lot. That is their top four

922
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: um and Metcalf is a huge factor, and I think

923
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: they're gonna they think they're running game is in a

924
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: better shape than it's been in a few years with

925
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: Carson and Rashad Penny. But it's a weird time in

926
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: Seattle because man, this defensive rock I know they can magic,

927
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: but it looks worse than it did a year ago.

928
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: And they're an offense first team now, which is really strange.

929
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean, their offense was better than their defensive year ago,

930
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna have to be even better

931
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: this year because the defense, I think it's just they

932
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: I don't have the players, so they need guys like

933
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: mccaff It's a weird situation because Russell Wilson is a

934
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame talent who just seems to get better

935
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: every year. Um, so you want him to be throwing

936
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: the ball as much as possible because he's that good.

937
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: But then you have the offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, who

938
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to love to throw the ball a lot.

939
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: And then you have the skill position players, which maybe

940
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: it makes more sense to have the running game a

941
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: little heavier than so it's they're kind of caught in

942
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: between a little bit. I'm really interesting to see how

943
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: the this offense looks this season, and it's a little

944
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: bit distracting. I think the fly would you know probably

945
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: here this just like how much everyone is just talking

946
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: about the Geno Smith Paxson Lynch competition. It's just like

947
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: everyone can't you know, Okay, let's focus on the starters here.

948
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: You know, that's only the rampant topic. Shout out to

949
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: Gino Smith's agent Greg Rosithal, because if you want to

950
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: land a backup job, go to Seattle where you're definitely

951
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: not gonna play, so you get to keep your body Clean.

952
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: You make three million dollars, You're a winner. You're a winner.

953
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: You could get a ring for Christ's sake. And all

954
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: you have to beat out is one of the worst

955
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: first round picks at quarterback of this decade in Paxton Lynch.

956
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: So I like your odds and I like your spot

957
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: of you know, buying buying that house. All right, the

958
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: fly now moves where it was East Rutherford, New Jersey. Okay,

959
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: flying up there. You ever watch a nature documentary and

960
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: you can't wait for like the waterhole scene, That's where

961
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: all the drama happens. That's where that's where the power

962
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,959
Speaker 1: played dynamics. Well, the the water hole and giants camp

963
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: is filled with kool aid. It's a kool aid hole,

964
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: and I want to see how the animals. I want

965
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: to study the behavior of the animals as they go

966
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: up to the kool aid hole. It's like hot kool aid. Yeah,

967
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: it's like the wide receivers. You can see that they're

968
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: like the gazelles. They kind of tiptoe up with twitchy

969
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: ears and nervous eyes. They slowly bend over and take

970
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: a little sip out of the kool aid, and they

971
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: explode supposed they exposed their blindside a little in the

972
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: room at the Giants complex. This is in the room.

973
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: The outside, I guess it applies outside. Okay, did you

974
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: see the wide receivers are like the gazelles and then

975
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: you see this procession. It's like a Depression era baptism

976
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: in backwoods Mississippi. It's just the media slowly wading into

977
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: the waters to get their baptism in the kool aid.

978
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: That's the scene I want to see in training camp.

979
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: The kool aid drinking at Giants camp. Wow. I mean,

980
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: I knew it would be negative. It was just a

981
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: matter of which direction it was going. It's like Gentleman's

982
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: the hippo in there controlling the whole thing. Hippos are

983
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: bad tempers. Hippos are the most danger gets a new swimsuit,

984
00:52:55,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: beach chair watching the whole thing chuckling. That's I have

985
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: to say it. So you just want to see I

986
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: want to see the giants exactly who is drinking the

987
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: kool aid and how are they drinking. The wide receivers

988
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: are just sipping it because they're not sure what's going on.

989
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: They're not sure if this is good for their careers.

990
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: They don't know what's going on, but the media they're

991
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: going in and they're getting baptized in that kool aid.

992
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: I want to see all of that, all right. I

993
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: don't know where else to take that. I still I

994
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: am not completely sure what we're talking about. I want

995
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: to see why everybody buys into Doin, buys into everything

996
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: the Giants say. There's some sort of metaphysics. You do

997
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: understand that they don't want to drink and he wants

998
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: to drink something different exactly. I want to see if

999
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: there's anybody there who refuses to drink the component Jordan

1000
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: rain On, the ESPN guy who covers the Giants, he

1001
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: seems he'd never seen. He always seems very critical. You know,

1002
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: there's a critical component to the New York media of

1003
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: this Giants offseason, right. They've been getting slaughtered all offseason,

1004
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: the local New York media. They have been killed, not Ralph.

1005
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: I know that. I would like to see the descending

1006
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: voice forget the media inside the building too, If if, when, when?

1007
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: If you're Patch Shermer, do you say, excuse me, I

1008
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: want to start the quarterback. I want we don't know,

1009
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: We'll find out, all right, close it out marks. All right,

1010
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: this little fly is gonna this is a long arm

1011
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: all the way down. You know, you know you have

1012
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: to take the highways of the roads. You can fly straight,

1013
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: but all the way down to Miami, Florida jumping in

1014
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: the fish tank. I am jumping in the fish tank.

1015
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: And it's no surprise that Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh Rosen

1016
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: are they one of the only real quarterback battles out there.

1017
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: But this is a team that we thought was unified

1018
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: a few months ago with the organic fish tanking of

1019
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: blow up the season and do what you can to

1020
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: cut costs and get in position to get our quarterback

1021
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: in the next draft. Get draft capital, dooever it takes

1022
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: to get our Sam Donald are Baker Mayfield. This team

1023
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: has not had one for a long time. Let's get

1024
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 1: it done. So you now go out and get Josh Rosen.

1025
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: What I'd like to be on that little with that

1026
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: fly and you can fly into this little Miami Dolphins compound.

1027
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: I think I'd sit on like a cinnamon bun or

1028
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: something like a little sweetness under me while I listened

1029
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: into this conversation. They're not paying attention to the cinnamon

1030
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: bun because there might be some descending voices in this room,

1031
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: because you've got Brian flora is the first year coach.

1032
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: Who does he want to roll into the season with

1033
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: and start and go into this journey with and not

1034
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't Coaches don't want to be oh and eight

1035
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: or one in seven and look like they they're the

1036
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: next guy that comes from and comes from New England

1037
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: and can't do what Belichick did. You've got Chris Greer

1038
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: that might have a completely different game plan on how

1039
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: he wants the season to play out, and he has

1040
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: got to see Josh Rosen. He can't wait till week seventeen. Oh,

1041
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: then we'll give Josh Rosen one start and then we'll

1042
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: build our evaluation off of some our outrageous you know,

1043
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: sixteen passes against the Bills in week seventeen. You gotta

1044
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: see him earlier. You gotta see a real body of

1045
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: work when the games matter against teams that aren't beaten

1046
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: up late in the year. And what about Steven Ross,

1047
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: who might say this is my product. I'm paying all

1048
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: this money, and I kind of believe in this plan

1049
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: and the tanking, but I don't like me on my

1050
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: name being attached to that. He was with Blockbuster, Right,

1051
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? That thing tanked? But maybe it wasn't him.

1052
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: But anyways that that wasn't Steven Ross was well, He's like,

1053
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it the way the last

1054
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: guy did it with Blockbusters, So I'm gonna do business

1055
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: my way. The Dolphins aren't going away of that hideous

1056
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: video store. So all these different voices, what's the conversation.

1057
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: I'd want to fly out of there knowing I know

1058
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: next time I hear about quarterback A or B is

1059
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: is thriving? Or the coach says this or the GM

1060
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: says this. When he has once in a while a

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00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: press conference, what's in their heads? What do they really

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00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 1: want to accomplish? When we get to florest the show?

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Speaker 1: And that's why I would be Ryan Fitzpatrick's show. Yeah,

1064
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: for a few weeks maybe, but you have to eventually

1065
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: see what you have In Josh Rosen, I think you

1066
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: have them too soon. I would start him even if

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00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: he lost the quarterback competition. What are the Dolphins trying to?

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00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: What do they need to do this year? I guess

1069
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Flora that though he's they're out there, they're working as hard,

1070
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: of course, but they're working as hard as they can

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00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: to go to win games, and they're not gonna if

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick's way better. It just sets a strange message. I

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00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: found it interesting. He's gonna play the best players. Like

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Speaker 1: we're out there in NFL Network interviewing Keiko Alonso. It's

1075
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: like Kiko Alonso make the team. It wouldn't surprise me

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00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: at all if he gets cut in. Some guys like

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00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: that don't even make Brian Flores's team. He's gonna turn

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00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: this roster over. Do you you have a quick one,

1079
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: Greg before we go? I do. Uh. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall when Matt Patricia and

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00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: Bobby Quinn are talking in Detroit and hearing what they

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00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: really think about Matthew Stafford a couple of geniuses whether

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00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: he is. I wish I had gone with that first

1084
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: that though we had to with two around just what

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00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: what they think about Matthew behind his strengths weaknesses, because

1086
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna evaluate him. Honestly, he hasn't had his starters

1087
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: out there really next to him. It's a new offense

1088
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: with Darryl Bevil. It's it's a tough situation for Stafford.

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: And then but you know that it's got, it's it's blank,

1090
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: or get off the pot time. I think, well, you

1091
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: heard what Golden Tate said, Matthew Stafford's the best quarterback

1092
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: he's played with. Maybe it's that simple. I would that's

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00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the thing. I was like, I would like to hear

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00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: Patrician Quinn talking about man this guy, if we can

1095
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: just get the right pieces around him, he is our guy.

1096
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: But I'd be interested. I don't know, so, I really

1097
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: don't know. He believes Stafford to be superior to Russell Wilson.

1098
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't interesting. Well, there's a lot going on personally.

1099
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Golden Tate has had a lot of just fairness. He

1100
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: hasn't played with Eli Manning yet. He's that that's just beginning. Well,

1101
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: so Rustle is about to fall to the bronze medal potentially.

1102
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Goldy Harvin involved in one of the most

1103
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: weirdly almost underreported scandals in Super Bowl history. What a

1104
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: great it all we I don't know if we can

1105
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: really dig into because it's all kind of hearsay, But

1106
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: google it, baby, it's worth of Google might have impacted

1107
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: his answer on the quarterback rankings his personal quarterback, right,

1108
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: do do we think that there's a chance that Matt

1109
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Stafford's played his last season in Detroit. I mean they

1110
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: talked about maybe drafting a quarterback this last right, but

1111
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: like that playing for a different team next year. I

1112
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: could see it. I think there's a chance, yes, yeah,

1113
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: not a huge one, but I think there's a chance

1114
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: because you could certainly he could certainly be someone that

1115
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: you would be attractive in a trade. What a market

1116
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: that would be, right, So that's the thing. They're going

1117
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: to coldly evaluate it. And if they think it's time,

1118
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be on the Patriots, you know, if they

1119
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: trade out. Now, I don't think that. You now I'm

1120
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: doing the thing. Dan's already scared. You connect the start

1121
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: of the Patriots immediately because Tom Brady now he's on

1122
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: a yo yo diet. You know, it's just you know

1123
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: that is not what he's on. It's gonna go thirteen

1124
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: and three. He's his bird day today, Happy birthday, forty

1125
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: three years old, right, forty two? Today's birth that's this

1126
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: outrageous congratulations Tommy, Yeah, it is today. It is they

1127
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: were sitting you know, would be my birthday gift to him.

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: It's actually tomorrow, August three. You think you should walk

1129
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: away now, just no one to walk away, you know,

1130
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: go out high. You know, why are they singing it

1131
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: to today? Maybe they don't have practice tomorrow. You can

1132
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: they're celebrating right now. Retire a hero or live long

1133
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: enough to be a washed up bump. I mean you

1134
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: can take a two runs at least. It's a very

1135
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: fresh theme from you, Dan, I mean, I'm this is

1136
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: one where we find common ground on the Patriots that

1137
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I I would have totally been down with Tom Brady

1138
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: and Gronks just going out on top with that title.

1139
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: It just that's what you said, like two Super Bowl

1140
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: wins ago though, right Like Patriots fans are glad you're

1141
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: not getting your way on this front. Tom's children, by

1142
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: the way, he end's got a cat a plane, Vivian

1143
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: Lake Brady, Benjamin Brady, that's a great name, Ben Brady,

1144
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: and John Edward Thomas moynihan. Little nugget on the eve

1145
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: of his kid's last name is yeah, that's a middle name.

1146
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: I think let's not get into that either way. Worth

1147
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: a google easily find a bill on the internet. All right,

1148
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: before we go, I'll be out Monday, by the way,

1149
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: heading back east doing the weekend thing with the family.

1150
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get Steve weishback in, get step in here.

1151
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: He did such a great job last time in your absence.

1152
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: He was just sensational. He was now he was. He's

1153
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: always great. He's great, he's great. I just like to

1154
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: put Dan on that airplane with a little bit of hesitation.

1155
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: He certainly will not. Uh, good luck to you. I

1156
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: won't be here on Monday, but I'll be back on

1157
01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Wednesday before we go um mark, speaking of familiar themes

1158
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 1: of meditation, a little weekend meditation. Here we are once

1159
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: again at the end of another busy week, maybe a

1160
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: week in which you barely even thought about your own needs.

1161
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: So now making yourself comfortable, take a deep breath in,

1162
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: and as you breathe out, close your eyes and begin

1163
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: to relax. As you continue to breathe, imagine yourself walking

1164
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: through a beautiful midnight garden, the stars shining above, the

1165
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: moon's light illuminating the soft grass below your feet. As

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: you wander the garden, you can smell a scent of

1167
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: rose bushes swaying in the night breeze, So peaceful, so

1168
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: far away from all your stresses, and at the edge

1169
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: of the garden, you reach an elegant patio that peers

1170
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: down into a lush valley. In the middle of the

1171
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: valley you see a tennis court, and down the court

1172
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: a young man dressed in white shorts, white socks, white sneakers,

1173
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: a white polo, and a white headband. It is Greg

1174
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: frozen Thal, working tirelessly against one of those little robot

1175
01:03:48,400 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: ball machines in the middle of the night. Forehand, backhand, forehand, MHM, backhand, forehand, backhand, forehand, backhand, forehead, backhand, forehand, backhand, forehand,

1176
01:04:26,680 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: back end, forehand, backhand, forehand, backhand, sea crest out a