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Speaker 1: out talking baseball. We've got games back today. I know
Speaker 1: yesterday we had games too, but it was like, eh,
Speaker 1: whatever games. Now we've got a full slate of games
Speaker 1: tonight we can dive back into all of the props,
Speaker 1: which there's a lot today. We're gonna do some DFS
Speaker 1: stuff today. Lots of fun things happening in the world
Speaker 1: of baseball and Welsh. One of my favorite things this
Speaker 1: time of year for the next few weeks is when
Speaker 1: fantasy analysts pretend that they are Ken Rosenthal, When fantasy
Speaker 1: analysts on Twitter pretend that they are breaking news where
Speaker 1: they literally take news from somebody who does this for
Speaker 1: a living and then post it on their Twitter or
Speaker 1: social media things where they're like, apparently the Yankees, don't
Speaker 1: you know, uh sources tell us or tell me like, no, no,
Speaker 1: not a source. You read it in an article somewhere
Speaker 1: you're JABRONI you're not breaking this news. That is my
Speaker 1: favorite thing. I love that.
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say just the trade deadline,
Speaker 2: but you want another, anyone you want?
Speaker 1: I know, news is the best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know this.
Speaker 2: I see I see a couple of people where it's like,
Speaker 2: you'll get you know, Jeff Passing breaking news, and then
Speaker 2: three minutes later you'll get someone instead of giving that
Speaker 2: a retweet, they'll just regurgitate it in their own Johnny Roto.
Speaker 1: Johnny Roto says, uh per sources. Come on, dude, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just my favorite. I love it.
Speaker 3: It makes me I also enjoy that.
Speaker 1: It's you know, if you want to retweet and comment
Speaker 1: about it, sure, if you want to talk about what
Speaker 1: the fantasy implications of these players potentially moving or not moving,
Speaker 1: that's all great, Like that's good, that's what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. But when they live shit just like copy
Speaker 1: and paste it as though they're the ones reporting it.
Speaker 2: It just I gotta know off air, when we get
Speaker 2: off air, I gotta know who the person that comes
Speaker 2: to mind buying.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I just I just saw this
Speaker 1: Ericson just sent that to me. By this is completely
Speaker 1: a secondary thing because I just before it came on,
Speaker 1: I saw somebody post something about that, and I saw
Speaker 1: Friedman's little tweet about the other thing, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: who is that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I did see some fantasy football drama of a
Speaker 2: guy that took an article and then literally just regurgitated
Speaker 2: all the points and like he did. One thing that's
Speaker 2: beyond me, I might be getting old, is the influx
Speaker 2: of here and you know a lot of people do
Speaker 2: it that we know, but the influx of like here
Speaker 2: are the five reasons of the da da da, and
Speaker 2: then these.
Speaker 3: Thread tweets or something.
Speaker 1: Oh, the thread tweets is that's the algorithm of how
Speaker 1: you get people to follow you now apparently, which is
Speaker 1: funny because because what really they are called is articles.
Speaker 1: See you as you used to write an article. Now
Speaker 1: people write thread tweets instead because they can't, and they
Speaker 1: probably get more looks and views than some of the
Speaker 1: articles in some places. That's the tree.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe some hate looks too.
Speaker 2: I saw this guy, I don't remember who their name
Speaker 2: is in fantish football and it was bad. It was like,
Speaker 2: really really bad where they took verbatim things in a
Speaker 2: just full unwritten article, made a thread about it, and.
Speaker 3: It didn't go well. It didn't go well on the
Speaker 3: Is this.
Speaker 1: The person that we're alluding to who had the other?
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. We'll have to talk
Speaker 1: after I, like I said, I feel.
Speaker 2: Like it is because it was kind of a little
Speaker 2: Twitter controversy yesterday, more in the fantasy football world.
Speaker 3: But to the point though, there are.
Speaker 2: A whole lot of whether it's articles and other thoughts
Speaker 2: or news pieces that are then regurgitated and shared as original,
Speaker 2: it gets it gets a little up there.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Jesse's favorite thread tweet was yours about
Speaker 1: a Saw remaate?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, many years ago. I lost the most follows.
Speaker 1: Familiar I lost the most followers.
Speaker 2: I had about a sixty five thread tweet where I
Speaker 2: re there was it when the rumor of the new
Speaker 2: Saw movies were coming out with Chris Rock and I
Speaker 2: essentially wrote the script to four new Saws and I.
Speaker 3: Did about sixty five tweets. I think I lost. I
Speaker 3: lost a lot of people that night.
Speaker 1: My favorite is doctor Glenn just got very zen on us,
Speaker 1: he said, and then the articles now are mostly just
Speaker 1: embedded tweets, which is true. So articles have become embedded tweets,
Speaker 1: and tweet threads have become articles. Oh lord, let's just
Speaker 1: talk baseball. Let's start with Mookie Betts hitting the go
Speaker 1: ahead three run home run against the Giant. Sean Murphy
Speaker 1: the go dio or shlad go catcher for the AA
Speaker 1: clean days. Hey, SWAT's a three run danger against the Tigers.
Speaker 1: Frankie Montas in the game, fan five. So return for
Speaker 1: Frankie Montas very important. Thank goodness. It was the Tigers
Speaker 1: on the schedule too. The A's had to be like, oh, please,
Speaker 1: please please, let it just be the Tigers. Can we
Speaker 1: just okay, Yes, that's the first start back the Tigers,
Speaker 1: perfect five innings. Great, okay, now put him in bubble rap, right, well,
Speaker 1: she gotta put Frankie Montoss and bubble wrap in some
Speaker 1: sort of you know, I go safe space room just
Speaker 1: with I don't know, happy music playing and hope that
Speaker 1: he says hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Luis Castillo, Frankie Montas, they should just be
Speaker 2: rolled around the field.
Speaker 3: You know, just nothing can happen. You know those big
Speaker 3: like air water casts that.
Speaker 2: Happened when you break your arm or something like that.
Speaker 2: They should just put them in it now, huge full.
Speaker 3: Body, like a cocoon.
Speaker 1: He should just be in a full body.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then he'll come out of butterfly, come out,
Speaker 3: or he'll.
Speaker 1: Come out looking like Wilfrid Brimley. And if you get
Speaker 1: that reference to cocoon, then we could be friends, all right.
Speaker 1: Jordan Alvarez or Jordan Alvarez whenever you want to call him.
Speaker 1: Today he had a homer also the home run of
Speaker 1: Alex Bregman. Boom. Yeah, back on the board. Let's go
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge also in another home run. He's up to
Speaker 1: thirty four, so he has not stopped. Jacob de Grom
Speaker 1: threw five innings, sixty pitches a game. Yes, we take
Speaker 1: a deep breath for now. Starts for Jacob de Grom
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. What are we going?
Speaker 2: Let's see projections had him I think in sixty eight innings,
Speaker 2: which what would.
Speaker 3: That be relevant? Starts?
Speaker 2: Probably that's probably eleven starts, ten eleven starts.
Speaker 1: Really, that's it for sixty eight for the Grom. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's you think it's a five inning picture, now.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean six, you know, six times ten
Speaker 2: would be uh sixty and then sixty eight. You know
Speaker 2: there's another that's like eleven or twelve starts in there.
Speaker 2: So let me look, I was giving I want a
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt that he was Jacob de Grom
Speaker 2: going seven and at you know, half innings or eight innings.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he's projected at ten bat x has sixty three innings,
Speaker 2: which I think it might have dropped just a tiny
Speaker 2: bit and steamer down to fifty seven.
Speaker 3: So no need to even guess.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say eleven was probably gonna be my
Speaker 2: guest anyways, but ten eleven starts as a projection, I'm
Speaker 2: with it. He felt good. We're getting him soon. I'm
Speaker 2: staying optimistic. He ain't changing my mind regardless of all
Speaker 2: the arguments. Get him out there, put him throwing one hundred,
Speaker 2: striking out nine and all you guys are gonna shut up.
Speaker 1: This is this is me watching Jacob de gram starts
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. Yeah, if you're watching
Speaker 1: on the YouTube, I'm looking through my fingers like it
Speaker 1: kind of look in the say every time you throw
Speaker 1: like a scar movie, you're just like like saw. I
Speaker 1: mean that, actually, this is the new saw movie. It's
Speaker 1: it's making me sit in the downstairs level of my
Speaker 1: house and watch Jacob de Gram starts.
Speaker 3: That's the video pops up. He's like and then Jacob
Speaker 3: comes on and everyone's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh God, God, please, I'll give you plus one
Speaker 1: point fifty on the first five innings of Jacob de Gram.
Speaker 3: If Jacob makes it through, you get out. If Jacob
Speaker 3: de Gram gets hurt, you're done. Oh no, I.
Speaker 1: Love the peanuts and the crackers ass because now Wilfrid
Speaker 1: Burnley has become He's all over this chat. By the way,
Speaker 1: he was forty nine years old when Cocun was made.
Speaker 1: He looked like he was one hundred and forty. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's absurd that that is true. And I'm sure it
Speaker 1: is because Walkie Pengwin never gets numbers wrong. So that's
Speaker 1: just hilarious. All right, let's continue on here. Uh. It
Speaker 1: says the Mets and Astros are interested in Josh Bell,
Speaker 1: and also sources tell Joey Rodo and whoever else is
Speaker 1: out there that apparently the asking probably for soda is
Speaker 1: too much in terms of prospects for the Mets and Yankees,
Speaker 1: to which I roll my eyes and go, Okay, sure
Speaker 1: here the game is officially on. So what you know
Speaker 1: now is that the Mets and Yankees have talked with
Speaker 1: the Nats, which that tells us exactly where things are,
Speaker 1: which is where we thought it was yesterday, which is
Speaker 1: those are the teams at the end of the day
Speaker 1: that have the most to gain, the most to give,
Speaker 1: And that's what it's about. I want to spend all
Speaker 1: day on soda because we kept I will say.
Speaker 2: I'll admit though the proposed trade offers are pretty wild.
Speaker 2: It is just the entire system of all teams with
Speaker 2: a major leaguer And the only reason I don't vibe
Speaker 2: with that is the Corbin money, Like it just doesn't
Speaker 2: make it. That's where I think the disconnect is here,
Speaker 2: and I think it's it's a disadvantage unless the team
Speaker 2: is completely out.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessary.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, you know, maybe think about it, like if
Speaker 2: the Mets go out and say, hey, listen, this is
Speaker 2: way too much blah blah blah, and then when they
Speaker 2: pull a trade together knowing you know what they can
Speaker 2: do that it's not you know, to look like literally
Speaker 2: seven prospects blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Then it looks like they got.
Speaker 2: Even more of a win, I suppose, but I just
Speaker 2: don't see how the like the rumor, like the Yankee rumor,
Speaker 2: one is like Volpi and Domingas and literally every other prospect.
Speaker 2: If you're also taking on Corbyn's money and there's no gear.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the Nats are gonna try to have
Speaker 1: their cake and eat it too, and they're gonna find
Speaker 1: out in this market they can't. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: either eat the Corbin money or get better prospect Like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get both. So it's either send off
Speaker 1: Corbin along with Sodall and just you're taking one prospect
Speaker 1: and some other prospects, but you're.
Speaker 2: Getting still do it fine, You're just not gonna get
Speaker 2: seven process. You're not gonna get the seven prospects in
Speaker 2: a really good system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's gonna get traded, I'm telling you, I.
Speaker 3: Mean percentage changed at all.
Speaker 1: I still see by the deadline, I think it's still
Speaker 1: gonna before I don't think they're gonna wait that long.
Speaker 1: I think this is a bad situation and the longer
Speaker 1: they weigh's gonna get worse. And they're not gonna go
Speaker 1: to the off season.
Speaker 3: With this so next week, you think he's getting traded,
Speaker 3: is what you're.
Speaker 1: Saying, Yeah, uh huh, yes I do, or you you
Speaker 1: were at I think last week talked right. I moved I.
Speaker 3: Moved them into the sixties.
Speaker 2: When I'm starting to see the numbers, I think this
Speaker 2: is I'm kind of back to pure fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I think the off season makes the most sense with
Speaker 2: a lot of time to do it because of the
Speaker 2: ask and the extra money that's going to be added on.
Speaker 2: But all it takes is one really hyper aggressive team
Speaker 2: to jump in.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, I would love.
Speaker 2: For you know, like a hardcore you know, trade analyst
Speaker 2: in more insight of MLB to let us know like
Speaker 2: like how much of a return loss would there be
Speaker 2: in the off season, Like is there a perceived loss
Speaker 2: with a half a year and not buying out the
Speaker 2: deadline in the off season.
Speaker 3: So they should trade now? Or is it still about
Speaker 3: one to one?
Speaker 1: I think there is for I think there is, And
Speaker 1: I think the one team where it's less so is
Speaker 1: the Yankees because they've still got that Aaron Judge convert
Speaker 1: like that that's the well Aaron Judge wants too much.
Speaker 1: So we decided to go after one soda instead. That
Speaker 1: pivot I think holds water for the Yankee organization. Whereas
Speaker 1: for the Mets, it doesn't. You know, they're in it now.
Speaker 1: They haven't won enough. You know. The Dodgers, I keep
Speaker 1: telling everybody, like, the Dodgers have a lot of money
Speaker 1: invest in a lot of guys, Like I just don't
Speaker 1: think the Dodgers at the end of the day are
Speaker 1: going to be this team. But we'll see, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens there. And they've got some bad contracts to
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, let's not forget that. Speaking of the Dodgers,
Speaker 1: they're cautiously optimistic that Walker Bueller is going to return.
Speaker 1: That makes one of us because I am not cautiously
Speaker 1: optimistic about this at all. Your thoughts on the Walker
Speaker 1: Bueller news from Dodger camp, because they say, quote everything
Speaker 1: I hear from the training staff and Walker specifically, everything's
Speaker 1: treading in the right direction, says Roberts. I mean, everything
Speaker 1: just sounds fine. Everything's just fine. Friends, is just eating fajitas.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I'm not there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you could be optimistic about it,
Speaker 2: and my banking on it not necessarily. I always thought
Speaker 2: like mid to late August was the possibility, and then
Speaker 2: maybe you get them for your fantasy playoffs. So I
Speaker 2: think they want him back, to think they need him
Speaker 2: back as soon as possible. I think it hit you
Speaker 2: could theorize that his return could play a major role
Speaker 2: in what they do during the trade deadline.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The other thing though, and you have it on here,
Speaker 2: Andrew Heaney just started up a more intensive rehab assignment.
Speaker 2: He pitched five innings last night out here in Arizona
Speaker 2: in the Complex League, where he went five and he
Speaker 2: struck out eight, but he did give up a couple
Speaker 2: of homers out.
Speaker 1: I'd like to rename rehab assignments into Hemi's.
Speaker 2: I'd like to well, yeah, I Meansburg's and then rehabits Simon, you.
Speaker 1: Say Strasburg for something else that's like a catastrophic just explosive.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, like you had Chipotle in a milkshake,
Speaker 1: then they have a Strasburg after that. That's that's what
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 3: Oh it's a.
Speaker 1: Berg but yeah, he he You know what I think.
Speaker 1: And this is again maybe maybe this is me being
Speaker 1: grumpy and stuff, but I think this is classic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like Walker Buhler says everything's gonna be fine,
Speaker 1: to give them a little bit more leverage and some
Speaker 1: kind of trade discussion for somebody for a picture. I
Speaker 1: would be like, well, we still got Walker Bueler, who
Speaker 1: we think is gonna be okay, so you know, we
Speaker 1: don't really need another starter, but they do.
Speaker 2: If I were if I were a fantasy owner that
Speaker 2: was holding on to Walker Bueler with any hopes, I
Speaker 2: would take this like positive news and I would be
Speaker 2: looking to trade him. I'm just I don't have a
Speaker 2: lot of interest in him this year. He wasn't really
Speaker 2: pitching at an incredibly incredibly high level before he got
Speaker 2: injured either, So I would be moving off of and
Speaker 2: redrop if there's even the possibleity.
Speaker 1: And that's the point, right, wells like he wasn't very
Speaker 1: good before the injury, So was he not good because
Speaker 1: of the injury? And if so, what makes us think
Speaker 1: that he's gonna come back healthy and better and those
Speaker 1: everything comes back in this perfect confluence of events, which
Speaker 1: I don't think is gonna happen.
Speaker 2: There just lotstanding track records. You could go with an
Speaker 2: over four era lowess K percentage of his career. Something
Speaker 2: thing used to be a little bit worried about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I agree with you. This is the time
Speaker 1: to trade him. This is your one shot, so did
Speaker 1: not miss your chance to this opportunity comes once in
Speaker 1: a lifetime. Yo, let's talk about this John Gray six
Speaker 1: and one over his last seven starts here a one
Speaker 1: eight one era a ten point five k per nine.
Speaker 1: So how about them apples? How about how about John
Speaker 1: Gray these last few starts looking sharp again yesterday. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about this. Well, he was one of my favorite
Speaker 1: free pitchers coming into the draft this year. He was
Speaker 1: just there and I know a lot of people probably
Speaker 1: dropped him early and I always probably circulated somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But if you held on to John Gray, this has
Speaker 1: been the reward. I mean, he has been He hasn't
Speaker 1: been good, he's been excellent. I mean, this was a
Speaker 1: really start talking about this.
Speaker 2: A few more strikeouts yesterday for that prop it was
Speaker 2: at six and a half, a pretty high number.
Speaker 1: It was really really good yesterday, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He only hit five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he got pulled her on ninety four innings.
Speaker 2: He didn't get into I believe it was the seventh.
Speaker 2: They didn't let him go into a lot of ground balls,
Speaker 2: was pitching to contact, which is good. But yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: he's been phenomenal this year. He was one of those
Speaker 2: major late targets for for me and for Bogman. Almost
Speaker 2: a ten k per nine on the year so far,
Speaker 2: which is a phenomenal run. Dropped his homers a little bit,
Speaker 2: and he's got a better x FIP than his era.
Speaker 2: His ERA is just about a three and a half.
Speaker 2: He's got a three to two x FIP. So it's
Speaker 2: been a really really phenomenal run and he's becoming a
Speaker 2: more dominant strikeout pitcher. And that's kind of a that's
Speaker 2: a big key to the success with the rest of
Speaker 2: the you know, not giving up a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: runs and picking up some wins.
Speaker 3: It's a good run for John Gray. He's a huge
Speaker 3: value right now.
Speaker 1: That rotation in two years could be very good John Gray,
Speaker 1: Rocker and Lighter. That could be a really good rotation
Speaker 1: in two years. And and you know what, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you have i mean Josh Young, you know who's missing
Speaker 1: this season. You know, maybe he comes and becomes a
Speaker 1: superstar player. I mean, they've they've got you know, they've
Speaker 1: they've shown you that they're willing to spend money, and
Speaker 1: they've got a core there of at least a major
Speaker 1: league talent for a change, and I like what Texas
Speaker 1: is doing. I think they're turning a corner as an organization.
Speaker 2: I'd like them to be aggressive in a trademarket and
Speaker 2: go to the Dodgers and do The one thing I
Speaker 2: really really want in this world is to trade for
Speaker 2: Walker Bueller, so we can call them Walker Buehler Texas Range.
Speaker 1: That's all that would that would that would be heaven.
Speaker 3: I could have one thing, yeah, all right, if.
Speaker 1: I could have one thing like that great Steve Martin
Speaker 1: sketch from SNL, you know that one. If I had
Speaker 1: one wish, it would be for all the children in
Speaker 1: the world to hold hands at one time and sing
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. If I had a second wish that
Speaker 1: I just continues all these like it would be for
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars paid to me monthly for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life.
Speaker 3: God, I love Steve.
Speaker 1: If I had a third wish, well, the first wish
Speaker 1: would be the kids, The second wish would be his money.
Speaker 1: The third wish they just keep going on it up.
Speaker 1: Sources tell somebody that multiple clubs believe the Red Sox
Speaker 1: are indecisive and they could possibly be a team they
Speaker 1: knows sellers at the deadline, and honestly, with the Cursail
Speaker 1: injury now there's a part of me that wonders if
Speaker 1: this is the right move the Red Sox. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Red Sox after the Crosselle injury being sellers
Speaker 1: now at the deadline and what that might mean to
Speaker 1: somebody like Exander Bogart's who maybe he's on the move.
Speaker 2: I think the word sellers with them, this is just
Speaker 2: my opinion, is a lot smaller than what the sellers
Speaker 2: for the Nationals look like.
Speaker 3: I don't think this.
Speaker 2: Is a team that because when you hear it sellers
Speaker 2: are they like, oh they're gonna trade Bogart, They're gonna
Speaker 2: trade Devers. I don't think so. I think they would
Speaker 2: just trade serviceable pieces. Maybe they move off a couple
Speaker 2: pieces that would have helped them win. Now. I just
Speaker 2: don't see them making massive dramatic moves in any direction.
Speaker 2: It'd be great to see, you know, they've got some
Speaker 2: I think they've got a couple of guys they kind
Speaker 2: of need to figure out long term. What are you
Speaker 2: gonna do with Jeter Downs Jaron Duran, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: you could be. I think the better word in my
Speaker 2: opinion for the Red Sox is they could be more
Speaker 2: active in the market.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's.
Speaker 1: Like a big selling retooling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a good term for it. That's how I
Speaker 3: would see it.
Speaker 1: I've been called a retool many times in my career,
Speaker 1: many many, many times. Also, here's Bob Nightingale with a
Speaker 1: funny thing. Oh Bob, oh Bob. Remember the Athletics draft
Speaker 1: to Kyleer Murray with the number one overall pick in uh,
Speaker 1: with their number one pick, excuse me, in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: trying to convince him to choose baseball over the NFL.
Speaker 1: He just signed a two hundred and thirty million dollar
Speaker 1: extension with the Cardinals, will average forty six million a year,
Speaker 1: and the A's entire payroll for the season is forty
Speaker 1: eight million, which I thought was a fun tweet. I
Speaker 1: actually thought that was a fun fact. Words here, that
Speaker 1: is fun.
Speaker 3: Now, that is a super fun.
Speaker 2: I mean I would also point out, like this is fun,
Speaker 2: but you know, we can throw out some numbers for
Speaker 2: you know, like Juan Soto, like Baseball's got a little
Speaker 2: bit of money in baseball too, a little bit once
Speaker 2: won Soto gets half a billion dollars, like.
Speaker 1: Well and and then you have the guaranteed money and
Speaker 1: how long, like you know, yeah, you can also walk
Speaker 1: after baseball most of the time, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I don't get one of the mean stuff, but
Speaker 2: percent like you can like remember your family and you
Speaker 2: know you cannot have I mean, I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: they're not all have horrific thoughts, but yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, baseball is brutal.
Speaker 2: Actually, there was somebody, god I'm trying to remember who
Speaker 2: wasn't Des Bryan or some football player that was just
Speaker 2: talking about this and was like, hey, you know these guys,
Speaker 2: you got to get more guaranteed money. These quarterbacks have
Speaker 2: got to get more guaranteed money. Look at Sshan Watson
Speaker 2: who did and these guys, you know, these players, the
Speaker 2: lifespan outside of fifty is becoming a lot less. Football
Speaker 2: is a brutal, grilling sport that should be money involved,
Speaker 2: but there also should be a lot more healthy Well,
Speaker 2: the decision is rough, I think in general, on both
Speaker 2: sides of like, I think people make the argument that
Speaker 2: there's better money in football because it's the elite of
Speaker 2: the elite.
Speaker 3: In baseball, they do it. But the toll that baseball.
Speaker 2: Has on these guys is not even one iote of Well, there's.
Speaker 1: Also different you know, like you know, Kylin Murray just
Speaker 1: got paid now, right, but if he had had a
Speaker 1: more serious injury last year, he wouldn't have, right, So
Speaker 1: he missed a few games. I know we're not turning
Speaker 1: this to a football show, but it is interesting because
Speaker 1: you're going to get more of these players, these big
Speaker 1: two profile star athletes. This is not going to end.
Speaker 1: And the choice of baseball or football is an interesting
Speaker 1: one because baseball tend that more guaranteed money, tends to
Speaker 1: have a longer shelf life for the player and a
Speaker 1: better afterlife for the player. And that's what they were
Speaker 1: trying to sell Kyler Murray on. But Kyler Murray's split quarterback,
Speaker 1: and that position is a little bit different.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also if you're running back, I think you would
Speaker 1: have been an Oakland a.
Speaker 2: I think that also you're like a kind of a
Speaker 2: you know, even a good young player. Look at the
Speaker 2: arbitration deals, so what couldn't you get like one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars and I know we can break that apart.
Speaker 2: I still think it's ridiculously stupid that guys are, you know,
Speaker 2: signing ten year deals for one hundred million dollars but
Speaker 2: at the age of like twenty one to twenty two,
Speaker 2: you can make one hundred million dollars in baseball and
Speaker 2: have some type of opt outs and if you play well,
Speaker 2: you're going to get another contract. I mean, Kyler Murray's
Speaker 2: probably how many years again I'll make this football? But
Speaker 2: like how many years was that? Because is he going
Speaker 2: to get another big payday? You probably can still get
Speaker 2: two or three big pay days like the superstar of
Speaker 2: guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: It's five year starts though he'll be in his early thirties,
Speaker 1: so he probably will, don't I mean maybe physically maybe him,
Speaker 1: that's going to be tougher, but yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting art. I thought it was interesting tweet that he's
Speaker 1: going to make more this year than the whole Ace payroll.
Speaker 3: I thought, I think it's a little overplaced.
Speaker 1: Fun.
Speaker 3: It is a cool, fun fact, and it's fun.
Speaker 2: To be like, hey, look at the A's payroll and
Speaker 2: he would never get that money there, but a team
Speaker 2: like the Dodgers, would you know, probably end up paying.
Speaker 2: Look at the young the young stars are going to
Speaker 2: make hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of million dollars on
Speaker 2: their first time.
Speaker 1: Like what did Drew Jones get in the signing bonus?
Speaker 3: Do you remember what points?
Speaker 2: Eight point one eight nine, like essentially eight point two
Speaker 2: million dollars?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Look, I know there's taxes and agents and managers and
Speaker 1: all that stuff too, but it's still pretty good for
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 3: Good money.
Speaker 2: And then when you get to the majors and you
Speaker 2: are good player, they're going to buy out your arbitration
Speaker 2: or want to buy out your arbitration, and there's some
Speaker 2: serious money. Or even if you don't arbitration cases can
Speaker 2: put up some serious cash ten fifteen to twenty million
Speaker 2: dollars into arbitration going into free agency. I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's it's a fun, cool discussion, but I think it
Speaker 2: is very like blanketed by the way of people being like, hey, look,
Speaker 2: you got two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3: Isn't baseball stupid?
Speaker 2: And it's like, now, you know, I think it'd be
Speaker 2: fun if he stayed in football. Is a super talented
Speaker 2: player and he could have got paid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a question. I know the White Sox we
Speaker 1: all thought were geniuses to lock up all these guys
Speaker 1: that they did long term, very young. Do you think
Speaker 1: looking back now three years later, that it's been still
Speaker 1: working out for them? Say, you know, like they locked
Speaker 1: up Aloja Menez, they Louise Robert, Like, you know, I
Speaker 1: threw a lot of money at their young talent to
Speaker 1: stay up. Arct's gonna go crazy and they're gonna get
Speaker 1: an opportunity here to you know, at some point in time,
Speaker 1: I think be on the better end of what contracts
Speaker 1: look like for star players. But unfortunately those two star
Speaker 1: players haven't quite lived up to their expectations.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean that's the risk.
Speaker 2: But but I don't know they're still facing still still Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's still I think it's still there. They're
Speaker 2: good deals all around for all of these players. Like
Speaker 2: I said, the only thing I would truly truly say
Speaker 2: is I wish that baseball would like have more player
Speaker 2: options in it in the beginning, Like these guys that
Speaker 2: sign these ten year deals. I think there should be
Speaker 2: more mutual options on both so a team, let's say,
Speaker 2: let's just for arguments, day's like Eloyman.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work out. A team isn't.
Speaker 2: Stuck with a guy for five years, and it completely
Speaker 2: decimates the organization. Look at a team like the Nationals
Speaker 2: that are just screwed by one contract. The Diamondbacks did it.
Speaker 2: I always recall this, The stupid Diamondbacks did it with Granky,
Speaker 2: which cost him Goldschmidt. You should have more options in
Speaker 2: these contracts instead of throwing out these ten twelve year deals.
Speaker 3: I think I think those are bad for baseball.
Speaker 2: You can sign them, but they should have some more
Speaker 2: outclauses on both sides.
Speaker 3: I think it makes the game a little bit better,
Speaker 3: but you know who, You know what.
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Speaker 1: got Lucas Gilito at four and a half for the strikeouts.
Speaker 1: Give me the over on that against Cleveland. Kevin Gosman
Speaker 1: five and a half on FanDuel. I'll take the over
Speaker 1: on that one as well. We have projected Fantasy Bros.
Speaker 1: At six point eight k's Otani's at seven and a
Speaker 1: half on FanDuel. I still think he can get the over.
Speaker 1: I know then it's at plus one oh four here,
Speaker 1: so it's very tempting. Schureser is right around seven and
Speaker 1: a half. That's at plus one twenty four. I would
Speaker 1: take the over against the Padres it's not a very
Speaker 1: good lineup. And then ty Frans at one and a
Speaker 1: half total basis, you're getting plus one forty against your queedie.
Speaker 1: I believe it is today pitching four.
Speaker 3: I like that one. I love the one.
Speaker 1: Number plus one forty. You don't see that very often
Speaker 1: autodays like that.
Speaker 3: No, in ty Frans, that's a good bet. I like
Speaker 3: that one. That's just a good just throw it out there.
Speaker 2: It's great money on love the Otani one, even though
Speaker 2: it's a big number, simply because it's Atlanta.
Speaker 3: You know, this is one that he can easily get into.
Speaker 2: Two others that I highlighted, I usually don't take unders,
Speaker 2: and you know, to be Frank, I would probably say
Speaker 2: usually my understrikeout ones are are dicey, but there's a
Speaker 2: number on FanDuel eight and a half strikeouts for Charlie
Speaker 2: Morton today because because because at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the I believe it's up against the Angels. Yeah, the Angels.
Speaker 2: The Angels are number one strikeout team in baseball, So
Speaker 2: I get why that number is there. But that's a
Speaker 2: wild number for Charlie Morton. I'm not betting Charlie Morton,
Speaker 2: let alone. Am I betting a guy like Shoheyotani to
Speaker 2: go nine strikeouts. I'm gonna take the under. And that's
Speaker 2: over on FanDuel for Charlie Morton. And I like Goldie
Speaker 2: total total basis too. I think it's minus one twenty
Speaker 2: five over und DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Morton's been shaky again lately too.
Speaker 3: He had a rough starting nine strikeouts.
Speaker 1: That's tough. That's a tough selle because he's got to
Speaker 1: go you know, seven innings probably to get that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's in the cards for him right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: We shall see.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that under for sure, all right.
Speaker 1: Starting pictures tonight on DK got Gospel at nine point one.
Speaker 1: You've got Sure's are a ten point four Otania just
Speaker 1: nine K. I like that one. I like Otani and
Speaker 1: Gosman is appairing tonight. Otherwise you got to pay up
Speaker 1: for Burns and Sures or who are expensive. The cheap
Speaker 1: guy tonight is Lucas Giolito at seven point eight. There's
Speaker 1: a huge game here for the White Sox. They need to,
Speaker 1: you know, water get off the pod here in this
Speaker 1: series against Cleveland. They need to take this series. If
Speaker 1: they should get swept by Cleveland, that would just be
Speaker 1: just horrendous. Tyler Anderson is at nine K two, So look,
Speaker 1: if you want to go cheap, I wouldn't go Anderson
Speaker 1: over Gosman because Gosma's more K potential, I think, So
Speaker 1: I go Gosman at nine point one and then Lucas Giolito.
Speaker 1: If I want to pay up for Burns and Otani,
Speaker 1: you can go down to Giolito at seven eight or
Speaker 1: Zach Gallon at seven to six and still do pretty well.
Speaker 1: But Otani Gosman with Gioledo, that combination of those two
Speaker 1: big nine K arms with the seven point eight guy,
Speaker 1: that's how I'd like to attack the pitchers tonight over
Speaker 1: on the FanDuel side, Kevin Gosman ten point one, burns
Speaker 1: all the way up at eleven point three. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity against the Colorado Rockies in their
Speaker 1: own building in Milwaukee, but it is very expensive. So
Speaker 1: I'll pivot to Gosman or even Geelito at nine to
Speaker 1: one in tournaments, or Tyler Anderson just eight point seven
Speaker 1: in a tournament on a fandule that I feel much
Speaker 1: better about too. That lets you get in everything you want,
Speaker 1: including Houston, the Yankees, and the Cardinals looking at them too.
Speaker 1: And I had Bregman go yard yesterday, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: roll with Bregman for the weekend. Just give me all
Speaker 1: the pregnant Let's go Welsh. Where are you gonna go
Speaker 1: for your home run call? Today? And what do you
Speaker 1: think about this matchup? We've got the Seattle Mariners and
Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. This is important now because Seattle, you know,
Speaker 1: beat up the Rangers, beat up this team. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go play Houston now. I think we really
Speaker 1: gonna see who Seattle is. Right.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's go time, Like you said, it is go time.
Speaker 2: They've got You're coming out the streak. You can't give
Speaker 2: any excuses. You can't drop us a big series to
Speaker 2: the Astros and embarrassing fashion. I think it'll be very,
Speaker 2: very telling the future of the decisions they make. But
Speaker 2: my home run call, I'm gonna go Paul gold Schmidt.
Speaker 2: I went with my total base numbers coming off that
Speaker 2: All Star Game. Let's get a big fly for Paul
Speaker 2: Goldschmidt and get going here.
Speaker 1: You have it all right, everybody, have a great weekend,
Speaker 1: enjoy your baseball. We'll be back again Monday to do
Speaker 1: it all again. That'll do it for us, But the
Speaker 1: story of the game goes on for the Welsh. I'm
Speaker 1: Joey p. We'll see you next time. Kids at the