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Speaker 1: which is so unhealthy. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose,

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Speaker 1: the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: each and every single one of you who come back

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Speaker 1: every week to listen, learn and grow. Now you know

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Speaker 1: that I'm always on the lookout to speak to people

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Speaker 1: talking about none other than my three Rama Krishnan, who's

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Speaker 1: looking at what people do around us, if we listen

425
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: to understand why they're doing it, then that's going to

426
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: help us a lot more, because what people do doesn't

427
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: always equate with why we think they're doing it. And

428
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: even as an actor, as you're saying right now, like

429
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: understanding why your character wants to do something is what

430
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: makes it believable, and it's spot on, like you know

431
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: that that's exactly what makes a difference. I want to

432
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 1: ask you a bit more about that. When you talked

433
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: about acting, they obviously it started as this escape and

434
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: so you didn't have to go home and so that

435
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: you could you could be there and after school did

436
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: you have a and you said, no one in your

437
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: family has ever done this before. Did you have a

438
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: plan B from acting or was acting you were like,

439
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: I'm all in, I'm going to make this happen. This

440
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: is going to be my thing. So when I was ten,

441
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to be like a Disney animator

442
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: for Pixar. That was the dream. That was the dream

443
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 1: for the longest time, up until my last year in

444
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: high school. And then I realized drawing on other people's

445
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: time made me miserable, like I could not do it,

446
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,479
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, Like what am

447
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: I going to do now? I felt like such a

448
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: disappointment with myself because I and around school saying like, yeah,

449
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a piaus our animator. I'm gonna like

450
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: everyone knew, oh, my tree's dream job is to be

451
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: an animator. And then I like didn't do it because

452
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't. I can't, I'm gonna be miserable.

453
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: I still went through with my portfolio because I'm stubborn,

454
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: but I was not happy. And then suddenly I was like,

455
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, what am I doing with my life?

456
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: I basically just let down ten year old me. I

457
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: went to Disney World and got all the inspiration that

458
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: a ten year old could ask for. But while I

459
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: was applying to universities, my mom she was the one

460
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: that said, hey, like my three like, why don't you

461
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: toss in like an application for theater? Put her in there,

462
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: put her in the mix. And I was like, yeah,

463
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: all right, Like fine, it's extra work, but maybe I'll

464
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: regret it if I don't. Could be fun whatever. My

465
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: mom recognized my passion for a theater before I did

466
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: in high school. It was truly just a fun thing,

467
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: and it was a fun thing that I also went

468
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: into for like writing my own plays and directing my

469
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: own play, then being in a musical, multiple musicals, multiple plays.

470
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: But I was like, yeah, it's just fun times like

471
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a big actor. But then

472
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: eventually after I realized, you know, it was one of

473
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: the first times in my life I was ever proud

474
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 1: of myself. I finished my Grade twelve drama exam and

475
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: I was really proud of myself and I was like,

476
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I do have skill, Like I am

477
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 1: not a failure and that's great. So I accepted theater

478
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: and that was the plan. But the plan wasn't to

479
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: become a big actor, go work at Netflix. The plan

480
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: was we'll see what happens. Maybe community theater is cool,

481
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: which is awesome, or just in Toronto, like the local

482
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: theater scene there, that would be great. That would be

483
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: the ideal. That's beautiful. I love hearing how real that is.

484
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: That's that's awesome to hear and and also to recognize

485
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: just how beautiful that would have been if if that's

486
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: what was meant for you and you were you know,

487
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: you were prepared for that. I think so many, so

488
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: many times we hear now it's almost like, well, if

489
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: I can't do that, then I don't want to do

490
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: it right. It's like, well, if I can't do that

491
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: epitome peak moment, then I don't want to do it

492
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: at all because it's not good enough. And it's almost

493
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: like I love hearing from you. You're at the opposite

494
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, if this is all it is,

495
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: then yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah, my logicals, if I

496
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: do just theater in Toronto, that is fine because I

497
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: would have fun and I would meet cool people, and

498
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: then I would also have like the priority in my

499
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: life might be different where I'm just meeting new people

500
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: and that's where I get joy in my life. It

501
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: might not be from my career. It might be from

502
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: friends or you know, family, whatever it may be. Right, So, yeah,

503
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: how did you pluck up the courage to send that

504
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: first audition tape in? Because I feel the reason why

505
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm honing in on that moment. Is I think doing

506
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: something like like that for the first time with your

507
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: mom's camera without any like prep or plan. It's not

508
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: like you had your acting coach in the room, and

509
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like, I think that all of us struggle

510
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: with firsts, and all of us struggle with starting. Like

511
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure you speak to tons of people who say

512
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: to you like, oh man too, I'm not sure. I'm

513
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: not good enough, I'm not yes enough, I'm not smart enough,

514
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: I'm not beautiful enough. How did you block up the car?

515
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: Tell me that process, like, take us into your mind

516
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: on that day. So let me start off by saying

517
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: I was depressed. I was very depressed in my last

518
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: year of high school, which took a long while for

519
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: me to come to terms with. Like I didn't think

520
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: I was. I was, definitely And I almost took a

521
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: nap that day. Instead, my best friend texted me and

522
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: they said, hey, I saw this tweet from Mindy Kaling, like,

523
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: let's do this. I didn't even know how to use Twitter, Like,

524
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the differences between a retweet and a

525
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: like they're basically the same thing. And basically, you know,

526
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: my best friend Shahara texted me and I almost said no.

527
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: I almost said, hey, man, I'm really tired. I think

528
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a nap. And then something in

529
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: me just said, you know what, I haven't, like, I

530
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: haven't hung out with my best friend in a long bit.

531
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll go hang out with Sara is the best.

532
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, cool, we'll figure out a time

533
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: and we'll go to the community center. Because my house

534
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: is way too loud. There's no way we're going to

535
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: film a video that's like even decent in here. So

536
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: we went to the community center. We figured out after

537
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: an hour how to work my mom's camera because it

538
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: kept shutting off so annoying, and then we googled up

539
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: what a slate is. I didn't know what that was.

540
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 1: But then we were flying, we were making our tapes,

541
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: and the logic was to me, honestly, was Okay, we're

542
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna send it through this portal. Like it's not even

543
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: going out in public on the internet or whatever, but

544
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: like we're sending this through this portal, they might not

545
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: ever even look at it generally. I was like, there's

546
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: a good chance, like they'd never check it out. They'd

547
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: probably be people all around the world auditioning for this.

548
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: I have no experience. I made my acting resume on Canva,

549
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: like the free like here Canva plus I guess I

550
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: made my acting resume on Canva. My head shot was

551
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: a photo that my best friend took like outside of

552
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: my high school wall, and my eyes are squinty because

553
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: of the sun. It's so messed up, so I didn't

554
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: think people would look at it. And with all that

555
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: in mind, the fact that people all around the world

556
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: are auditioning for this, I was like, Okay, I'm probably

557
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: not gonna get this. I have literally no job experience

558
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: at all. I can't even say of like, you know,

559
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: done retail, So who cares. I'm gonna just do the

560
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: best possible job i can because why not. And it's funny.

561
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I have the text from that day with my best

562
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: friend where we literally say hey, man, like that was

563
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: really fun, thanks for hanging out with me, and they

564
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: were like, you know what, we can say we were

565
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: part of something bigger when the show takes off, we

566
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: can technically say we contributed to it. And then I said, yeah,

567
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we'll get royalties for that, like

568
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: as a joke, And then I said, but it would

569
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: be pretty sweet if you went to Hollywood, right, and

570
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: then we were like ha ha, who knows one day, man,

571
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: maybe one day, and then that was it. That's amazing.

572
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: I love that story. Thank you for sharing that with us.

573
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I know you've shared it before, but I love it. Yeah,

574
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: it's such a great story, and I have to have

575
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: you shared with our audience and community because it's it

576
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: just you know, I just love how happy you were

577
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: with what you were doing and how if it didn't

578
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: go anywhere, it wasn't a thing. It was just like,

579
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: well we tried, we put it out there into the world,

580
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: like we'll get like we did, you know, Like I

581
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: wasn't going to put out something like I didn't believe it,

582
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: because then in my mind I'd be like, uh, I

583
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: didn't give it my best shot. I'm not an athletic person,

584
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: but if I'm going to play a basketball game with someone,

585
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: you best know, oh, I'm gonna try my best. Yeah.

586
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: Will there be a lot of sweating, very much so,

587
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: probably a lot of falling knees, being skid, maybe a

588
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: bit of blood, but I will try, you know. Yeah. Yeah,

589
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: And my mom says like I'm now just living my

590
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: life purpose and she can see it. She saw it

591
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: honestly in high school when I was doing all my performances,

592
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: because she came to every single one. She saw the

593
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: joy that it gave me. And I'd have to agree.

594
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 1: I feel like acting, being in this creative industry of

595
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: film and TV, it is my life purpose. Yeah. I

596
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: love that energy. That's awesome and it and it shines

597
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: off of your face. Like even though we're not even

598
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: sitting in front of each other right now, I can

599
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: I can totally see it. It's it's so real and

600
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: your passion so true, and it's it's so authentic. I

601
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: love it. Tell me about tell me about how that

602
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: translated to then being on your first day on set,

603
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: because that's a whole nother Like that's a whole different

604
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: bowl game now because it's like you've gone from being

605
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: with your best friend to making a video to now

606
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: being on set. Where where was the set? Where was

607
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: it shot? And tell me about that experience from your perspective,

608
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: not Davy's perspective of yours. Yeah, we always shoot on

609
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: the universal lot in LA So season two actually entirely

610
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: was shot on a lot. We did no locations anywhere

611
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: else because of COVID, so we got very crafty with

612
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, spots in different sets. But the first day,

613
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: I remember the scene exactly. It was the scene where

614
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: Davy is telling Fabiola and Eleanor that she has chosen

615
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: attainable yet status enhancing boyfriends for each of us to date.

616
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: And that was the first scene we ever shot the

617
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: entire show. And I remember being so excited that we

618
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: did one take and lang Fisher says, Okay, so you

619
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: just you gotta slow down a little, just you gotta

620
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: slow down a little. And she's like, maybe you're a

621
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: little nervous, and I was like, honestly, I'm not nervous

622
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just really excited to be here. I

623
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: was introducing myself to everyone, saying like hi, I might

624
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: trade round mc christian, like it's your name, trying to

625
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: get to know everyone, and I was my mentality was

626
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: the two first things I learned like really quick was

627
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: Number one, trust everyone to do their job, and then

628
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: you stick and focus on yours. When you trust and

629
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: then respect everyone for their job, you'll be swimming because

630
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: then they will respect you to do yours and they'll

631
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: be your biggest champions. Don't worry about what the sound

632
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: guy's doing. Don't get in the business of the lighting guy.

633
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: Let them do their thing, because they're respectfully the craft,

634
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: the masters of their own craft. So when you respect

635
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: them and you take interest in a genuine, authentic way

636
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: of actually caring about what they do, they'll recognize that.

637
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: And then they're gonna light you and mike you up

638
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: and get the best angle of you that they possibly can,

639
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: because now they're on your team. Right. And then the

640
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: second thing that I like you kept in mind at

641
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: all times was stay alert and learn everything you possibly

642
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: can not many get the opportunity. You have the best

643
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: co op in the world. Learn everything. Don't be afraid

644
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: to ask questions. And now this is credit to Mindy

645
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: Kaling and Langfisher because they make such a great atmosphere

646
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: where I never felt stupid. I was the only like

647
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: cast member, number one, the youngest cast member, but also

648
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: the one that has never in their life been on

649
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: a set. And despite that, I never felt stupid for it.

650
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: Were there times where I was like, oh God, I

651
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: have to cry now. I've never cried on command before.

652
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: And Sandel is here and he's on like the flash

653
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: or something and I have to cry and this is

654
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that happened, but I never felt dumb

655
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: and I never felt dub for asking questions. I never

656
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: felt dumb for asking for help. And yeah, that's how

657
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: we got through the days. That's beautiful. That's it's so hard,

658
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: isn't it, Because that imposter syndrome so real and yeah,

659
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: and you can often just feel completely out of your depths.

660
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: But those lessons, actually I was going to ask you,

661
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: how would you deal with imposter syndrome if you felt it?

662
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: But those two piece of advice you gave us, two

663
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: lessons that you take away, actually make a lot of

664
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: sense and actually come as great pieces of insight for

665
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: anyone who's struggling with imposter syndrome. Because and I'm guessing

666
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: that's not changed. I mean, now you're on you know,

667
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: front covers of magazines, like you're invited to all these

668
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: beautiful events as you should be rightly. Have I love

669
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: that you're bringing your excitement everywhere. Has imposter syndrome ever

670
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: crept in or have you been really like yeah, tell

671
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: us about that process. One percent. It creeps in like

672
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: every so often sometimes like it's like self love, like

673
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: you got the confidence one day of like, yeah, I

674
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: deserve this, I am very proud of myself, amazing, but

675
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: then the next day it's oh god, oh no, I

676
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: messed up. I'm terrible, Like people think I'm a joke.

677
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: And that could be sparked because you see one comment

678
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: and I used to do this. I'm going to be honest.

679
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: I would scroll through comments until I found a negative one,

680
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: scroll through thousands of positive until I found a negative one.

681
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: And that would be when I would turn off my phone,

682
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: which is so unhealthy. But maybe imposter syndrome is sparked

683
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: because you heard someone say, oh, I wish she like

684
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: would enunciate more like she speaks weird, And I'm like,

685
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe maybe you're right, Maybe I should

686
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: just I should get a dialect coach for my own

687
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: voice and my own you know sound. Maybe I should

688
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: do that. But you realize that a lot of people

689
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: go through it, A lot of people go through imposter syndrome.

690
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: And then you're like, huh, I mean we can't all

691
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: be imposters, right, Like that makes sense. Some of us

692
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: have to be genuine, and some of the most genuine

693
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: people I know go through that. But I remind myself

694
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: that I have worked hard, and I used to piss

695
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: me off in season one was when people would say,

696
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're so lucky that you got picked.

697
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: You're so lucky, and I'm like, yeah, A good bit

698
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: of fame is a lot a lot about being at

699
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time, for sure. But

700
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I also worked really hard. Luck sure was getting my

701
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: audition tape scenting at the right day, at the right time,

702
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: and somehow that got landed on their screens. And you know,

703
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I did all that, But I did work really hard

704
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: during the audition process. But you know what, even if

705
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: you want to call the whole audition luck, you can't

706
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: call the season luck. Netflix comes out with so many

707
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: shows a day, but we're one of the biggest shows.

708
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: That's hard work. Yeah, you know. Yeah. When I ride

709
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: myself of that, I'm like, you know what, I'm not

710
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: that big of an imposter. I think I can relax today. Yeah,

711
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think at all. I think so.

712
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: First of all, when I first watched the season, I

713
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: would never have been able to tell whether you'd acted

714
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: before or not. Like I would never have been able

715
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: to tell like, no, no, I couldn't say. I couldn't

716
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: have watched. I been like, she doesn't look like a

717
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: real like you would never said that you were. You're

718
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: great from episode one, like you always appear completely comfortable

719
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: and I believe you as in I have to really talk.

720
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I had to prepare today by going, I am not

721
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: interviewing Davy. I'm interviewing my three like I had to

722
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: literally be like, do not think of her as Davy

723
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: like you have. I've got to as an interviewer, I

724
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: have to stop thinking you're this character because I believe

725
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: you're this character, Like I don't have any doubt that

726
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: you are Davy when you're playing Davy, and I think

727
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: that is a You know that to me is credit

728
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: to your skills. And I always say to people like

729
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: the people that have success, they should see it as

730
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: fortune and joy, but everyone else to see it as

731
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: hard work, because when you see someone else's success as luck,

732
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: you then think you're unlucky, and then it stops you

733
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: from working hard. When actually, when you see someone's success

734
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: as hard work, you go, Okay, I know what I

735
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: need to do now, and it sets you up. Does

736
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: that make sense? Ye get inspired by it. Don't let

737
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: it defeat your own goals, your own worth, your own

738
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: journey in life. Right. I feel like whenever people ask

739
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: me like how do I get into acting? Like how

740
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: do I do this? In my head, my response is always,

741
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, be on the lookout for the next tweet.

742
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: I guess, like that's all why I did it. But

743
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: reality is everything happens in different ways for people, especially

744
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: in the creative industries like music, acting, whatever. It is

745
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: so unique for everyone. So you can't get yourself discouraged

746
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: when you see someone else succeed. At this age, you know,

747
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: you can't compare yourself. You should appreciate and respect them

748
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: for their hard work that they did and then being

749
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: maybe even being inspired by it, you know, but don't

750
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: let it take down your own self worth. But I

751
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I hope talking to me, I don't

752
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: seem like Davy. It was really funny when season one

753
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: came out. It was very funny because some people would

754
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: look at my success, like you said, as luck, and

755
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: then they would take it as themselves as they're unlucky,

756
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: and then that could turn to the other way and

757
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: then become jealousy, and that was rough. But then people

758
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: just you know, would either come out of the woodwork

759
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: to be like, oh my god, my sure, I'm so

760
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: proud of you. I'm like, we have not talked in

761
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: ages what. But then some people would just start being

762
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: passive aggressive, like oh, you're too big time for us,

763
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: or just say some jokes that would just be like, hey, dude,

764
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm not like a changed person. I'm still me. Literally

765
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: the show even came out in Quarantine. I've been stuck

766
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: in the same house that you guys come over for

767
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: like my birthday parties. Man, like what? But yeah, the

768
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: best way I know of finding out, like who actually

769
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: know me is when they say like, oh my god,

770
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: I watched season one and I was asking myself, were

771
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: you even acting? You're so much like the character. And

772
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, thank you. So there's that. Yeah, yeah,

773
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: that's not what I was saying. I was saying that

774
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: because we've never met before. My only respective of you

775
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: is this character, which you play so believably, and and

776
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure today that I'm talking to

777
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: you and asking questions about you and not about Davy.

778
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: And so for me, it was more about the saying

779
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: how believably you play this character. Hence your skills as

780
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: opposed to thinking you're lucky, because if you were lucky,

781
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't believe that you were Davy in the show.

782
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: I would just be like, oh, this is this is weird,

783
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Like who's the you know, like that that would be

784
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: the whereas I don't feel that way. So and and

785
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: getting to know you today, yeah, I mean saying you're

786
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: like Davy is like really stereotyping and just I mean

787
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: there's no there's no like everyone has so much more

788
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: depth and layers. And even today, I've discovered so much

789
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: more about you that I would never have known. And

790
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm hoping my community will too. But

791
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: tell us about you know. I love everything you've been sharing.

792
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: I love the messages that you're sharing with people, especially

793
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: because it's so hard, and in our South Asian community,

794
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: it's harder because when we've been less supposed to this

795
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: happening to people around us and these opportunities being given,

796
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: so people find it harder to react. You had in

797
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: your Instagram bio respect existence or expect resistance. I wanted

798
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: to understand what inspired that statement and what you connected

799
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: to deeply in your life. Yeah, I think I saw

800
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: that like statement somewhere on the internet back when I

801
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: was in high school somewhere, and I thought, oh my god, wordplay.

802
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: That is so smart. That was my first thing. But

803
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: then I was like, yeah, you know what, that's really awesome.

804
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: And from a Grade twelve art exam, we had to

805
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: make a mural. And like, if you scroll back far

806
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: enough on my Instagram feed, now there's a picture of it,

807
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: this gigantic mural I painted by myself, of this brown

808
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: girl and you know, she's got these like rainbow hearts

809
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: all around her gold background and at the top it

810
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: says respect existence or expect resistance. And the whole idea

811
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: was like, you know, here's this brown girl rambow hearts,

812
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, symbolizing like the LGBTQI community and just the

813
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: idea of respect people, you know, and it's this woman,

814
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: you know, and I just like it as my Instagram

815
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: bio because it's it makes so much sense to me,

816
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, respect people's existence, and if you don't, get

817
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: ready for people to be upset and get ready for

818
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: that backlash, because you need to respect other people for

819
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: who they are. You need to respect the fact that

820
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: when I say there isn't enough South Asian representation and film.

821
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: Get ready and respect it, because if you're going to

822
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: resist it, you're going to be behind the curve. And suddenly,

823
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: if you're a writer that isn't willing to add true diversity,

824
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: not token diversity, to your scripts, no one's gonna want

825
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: to work with you, because the world's changing, and honestly,

826
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: it's getting with the ride of getting the car of

827
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: respecting people for who they are, treating people with respect

828
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: like the Golden rule or just get out. Yeah, I

829
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: don't have time for people with that attitude. Yeah, well s.

830
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: I love the distinction between true and token diversity. I

831
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: think that's such an important that's so huge because we

832
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: hear statements that are token diversity statements all the time.

833
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I was literally just talking to someone last week and

834
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: they were told by an agency that they wouldn't be

835
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: signing them because they already have someone who is a

836
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: brown person in that niche that they're in, And they

837
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: were like, we already have one of you, and I

838
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: was just like, and I literally that conversation happened last week,

839
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: and they were asking me what I thought about that

840
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: and how to navigate it, and I wanted to ask

841
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: you how is your view on that on diversity changed

842
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: having been someone obviously developing their career to now being

843
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: on the other side where you have a successful show,

844
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: you're in the industry, people know you, you know people.

845
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Has getting closer to the industry made you feel more

846
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: excited about what's happening or are you actually seeing more

847
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: and you're like okay, wow, like you know this team

848
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: INDI and this team's got it right, but actually there's

849
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot of work that needs to be done. I

850
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: want to know how your views changed from before and after.

851
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: Definitely the latter, like I actually realized how used to

852
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: and just you know, conditioned. I became to not seeing

853
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: people like myself South Asian women on screen until after

854
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: never have I ever season one came out. Up until

855
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: that point, I was just okay, I guess with the

856
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: fact that people like me, we're background characters, quirky best

857
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: friends that were sexually deprived because that's a lovely stereotype,

858
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: or that they're just comedic relief. They're shy, they're awkward,

859
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: they can't talk to women unless they're drunk. You know,

860
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: you get used to that. And then the show came out.

861
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: I met people in the industry, and it made me, yeah,

862
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: hopeful that things are changing. But honest, I have this

863
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: like anger in me of like this sucks. If I

864
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: didn't make it into the industry, I would have maybe

865
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: just been okay with it all this time, Like this

866
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: is not okay. And we run around and saying like diversity,

867
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: like diversity, diversity, We say it so much, but we

868
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: have to. It's like, what the other choice do we have,

869
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: Like it's become this fluff word, but it's such a

870
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: mandatory fluff word, you know, like it is very important

871
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: because it's not happening fast enough. In my opinion. Yeah,

872
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: the needle is moving inch by inch, not even inch

873
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: millimeter by millimeter. Let me go with my lovely Canadian system.

874
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: But you know, it's moving like a little bit by

875
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I get so angry sometimes where

876
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: I just want to push it, you know, because it's

877
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: not fair to expect a whole community of people to

878
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: look at Davy and feel represented. I used to think, oh, no,

879
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: like you don't feel represented by the show. But we

880
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: worked really hard on it. It's a really good show.

881
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: We do so much. But then I was like, no,

882
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: that's selfish of me. I'm falling into the trap that

883
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: reality is the white dominant. You know, industry of Hollywood,

884
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: film TV wants me to to make these people just

885
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: deal with it. But they shouldn't and I shouldn't. I

886
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to settle with Davy being my one, you know,

887
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: main character role that was truly birthed by a leader

888
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: in the industry, Mindy Kaling. I shouldn't have to settle

889
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: for that. I should be able to get all the roles,

890
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, and keep going with my career. Audiences shouldn't

891
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: have to settle for just Davy or a Nolany or

892
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: Kamala or even a Nissan in season two. They should

893
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: be able to get all the different kind of characters.

894
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: If you are so proud in your identity, if you're

895
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: so proud of it and that is how you identify,

896
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: it means it's a story worth telling, and nobody can

897
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: say otherwise. It is definitely worth screen time in some

898
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: way or another. You know, Yeah, that's so powerful. Thank

899
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: you for sharing that, my three. It's such a powerful statement.

900
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: And really, you know, it's emphatic in the way you

901
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: said it. It's it's it's strong, it's powerful, it's bold,

902
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: and that's it's the way it needs to be said.

903
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I remember when I first moved to LA, and I'm

904
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: obviously born and raised in London, hence the British accent

905
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. But when I moved

906
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: to LA, I remember going to get my hair cut

907
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: and I remember my head dress is saying to me.

908
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: They were just like, where are you from? And that's normal.

909
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I always get asked that because if how I look

910
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: at my accent and they were like they didn't know

911
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: that Indian people sounded any different or looked any different

912
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: to Apoo in the Simpsons, Like that was there, like

913
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: like their their take on you know, what Indian people are.

914
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: And so they were just like are you Indian? Are

915
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: you sure? And I was like, yeah, I'm Indian. My

916
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: parents are both Indian. Yeah I'm sure. Yeah, but we

917
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: don't sack check. I'll be right back and then you

918
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: can cut my hair. Yeah. And it was so funny

919
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: because I was just like I couldn't been. I was like,

920
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: and that's and I sat back to think about it.

921
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: I moved to LA three years ago, and I set

922
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: back to think about it, and I was like, yeah, wow,

923
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: like for a certain generation. I grew up on The

924
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Simpsons too, and I was like, yeah, anyone who watched

925
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: The Simpsons like that was the only character that they

926
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: saw being Indian, right, and so on. TV influence what

927
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: we see in the world. It is a reflection of

928
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: what our world is like, right, So yeah, it makes

929
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: sense that they're coming and thinking like that's the reality.

930
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if they ever just checked out any article

931
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: or like, you know, just maybe come sense or just

932
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: understood colonialism, you know, maybe but they only ever watched cartoons,

933
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: then that would be what they think. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

934
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: But what's beautiful is that you've not only you know,

935
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: you're not only doing things on screen. I love how

936
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: you're speaking about these things off screen and interviews and

937
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: using your platform for a higher purpose. I know that

938
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: you also did the amazing table read recently for the

939
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 1: fundraiser for India, you know, supporting that was so awesome. Well,

940
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: it was, it was. I mean, now I wish I

941
00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: asked you to be a part of that, could have

942
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: interviewed you then, But it's you know, I just thought

943
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: it was so amazing to just see just so many

944
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: people using their platform, especially you know what you and

945
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 1: the whole team did. I think it was amazing because

946
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think for so many people you are representing,

947
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: and I love your I love what you're saying, Like

948
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: what you just said was so humble and so beautiful

949
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: about how you don't want to get caught up in

950
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: the way people want you to think that it's enough

951
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: and there should be I love that. But at the

952
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: same time, you are also through the show doing an

953
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: amazing service and effort as well, Like you know, it's

954
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: important for me to say that, and I love the

955
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: way you're saying it, but I want to acknowledge that.

956
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: But then for you and the team to do that

957
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: for India, I thought that was such a beautiful offering

958
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get an understanding from you, like

959
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: you seem to constantly want to use your platform, and

960
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: you're ever growing platform for higher purpose, for you know,

961
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: fighting for the right for education, for standing up, like

962
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: you said your mom told you to always stand up.

963
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: I wanted you to tell me about something that what

964
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: was one of the first things you tried to stand

965
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: up for back in the day, or something someone that

966
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: you try to stand up for and it maybe didn't

967
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: go how you wanted or maybe you learn something interesting

968
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: from it. I mean, like, yeah, with all the activism

969
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: that does stem from how my parents raised me, like

970
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: that has always been who I am. Before the show

971
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: came out, I actually had a picture of like a

972
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: walkout that I did for public cuts to public education

973
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: on my Instagram, Like there's some photos and I had

974
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: some people ask me, are you going to take that down?

975
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, no way, That's still my stance.

976
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: Don't cut public education. Education is the cornerstone to any

977
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: thriving society. But yeah, I mean, I'm still just a

978
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: nineteen year old kid that's learning every day, and it's

979
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: very much so capable of mistakes. Whenever I talk about this,

980
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: I realized it contributes to the pedestal that I feel

981
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: like I start putting myself on, and then the farther

982
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: the fall becomes and I have to always remind myself

983
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: for just nineteen make mistakes, and when you're older, you

984
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: can still make mistakes. We all can still make mistakes.

985
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: But back to your original question. Okay, so one of

986
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: my close friends I don't actually remember this, but they

987
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: vividly do, and they love to bring it up every

988
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: single time we meet new people. And apparently so my friend,

989
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: fellow Thumble girl, she would always dress up in her

990
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: traditional clothing, have a putta like she was, you know,

991
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: braided up. That's how she came to school every day

992
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: in elementary school, and her mom was like always taking

993
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: her home for lunch, and you know, she's the best.

994
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: Shout out to Varsha, but some people would make fun

995
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: of her for that. I saw her and was like, oh, okay, cool.

996
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: Like I would wear my brother's hand me downs. That

997
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: was like how my family rolled. We weren't going to

998
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: buy new clothes for me. You just get a baggy,

999
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: you know, monster car shirt. That's cool. I don't care.

1000
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: But I'd see her and I'd be like, okay, cool.

1001
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: You basically like looked like one of my cousins, so

1002
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: that's nifty. But then these girls were picking on her.

1003
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: I saw one day they were picking on her, and

1004
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: they were like bullying her and like just making fun

1005
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: of her and like getting really up in her space,

1006
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: and I saw that she was getting anxious. Apparently, I

1007
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: keep saying apparently because I don't remember this, but apparently

1008
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: I went up to them, and it's important to mention.

1009
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: Shout out to my cousins. They all taught me lovely

1010
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: colorful language at like the age of seven. So I

1011
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: went up to them curse them out and said, just

1012
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, leave her alone and yeah. Then they got like,

1013
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, they were like, oh, are you fine? Whatever,

1014
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: Like my tree is like whatever, you're getting at mad?

1015
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: And then they walked off. And then I just apparently

1016
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: said you're good. She was like yeah, and then I'm

1017
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: like okay, and then I walked away. I wasn't like

1018
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: friends with her at the time. We became friends in

1019
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: like high school, but I was like, okay, cool, thanks,

1020
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: and then I just led. She vidly remembers this. So

1021
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: there you go. There's my time. I I love that.

1022
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: I love that, my three. It has been so much

1023
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: fun talking to you. I know you've got an extremely

1024
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: busy schedule and so many interviews are doing so it's

1025
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: so grateful you spend time with the on Purpose community.

1026
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: But I want to end with our fast five. So

1027
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: we end every interview with the Fast five round that

1028
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum,

1029
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: so no longer notice how much I talk. I loved it.

1030
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: I love that you talk. It was great. I loved

1031
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: that you two. All right, So my three rama Christian,

1032
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: and these are your fast five. The first question is

1033
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: what is the best advice you've ever received? Stick to

1034
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: your morals, don't take no for an answer. Yeah that's

1035
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: two sentences. Crap, that's fine. What is the worst advice

1036
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,319
Speaker 1: you've ever received? I don't know, bad advice. I feel

1037
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: like I would probably want to get rid of that

1038
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: out of my brain as quickly as possible. You know what,

1039
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: bad advice? Don't make a us about it, Like that's

1040
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: not even like advice, Like it's not like I even

1041
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: took it. But yeah, don't make a fuss about it, right, Yeah,

1042
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: that's a good answer, all right. Question number three, what's

1043
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: the first thing you do in the morning and the

1044
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: last thing you do at night? Oh? Really unhealthy? Go

1045
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: on my phone? What do you do on your phone? Um,

1046
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: it's either a watching cartoons or TikTok social media, but

1047
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: mainly cartoons. Amazing, I love it, all right. Question number four,

1048
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: what's the biggest lesson you've learned in the last twelve months.

1049
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: It's okay to make mistakes. You're a work in progress.

1050
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: And that's because my mom always calls me that. She

1051
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: always says whenever anyone praises me to my mom and says,

1052
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: your daughters so lovely, Oh my gosh, I love her.

1053
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: My mom just says she's a work in progress. He

1054
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: is unfazed. It could be a compliment from mindy herself,

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Speaker 1: and my mom just says work in progress. Next, next

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Speaker 1: time I see your mom, I'm gonna try the oposite.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, well, first time I see your mom,

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Speaker 1: maybe not the first time I see your mom. I

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Speaker 1: think I'll I'll be good the festive sea. I think

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Speaker 1: if I ever get to be a mother again, if

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Speaker 1: I get the wonderful fortune, I'll say I think my

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Speaker 1: three is a work in progress. I want to see

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Speaker 1: what actually react. Yeah, just spending on her. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I love that. That's beautiful and and I one of

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Speaker 1: the things I really appreciated in this conversation is how

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Speaker 1: much you kept repeating, Hey, I can make mistakes, and nineteen,

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Speaker 1: I'll make mistakes. Hey, even if you're older, you can

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Speaker 1: make mistakes. And I love that because I completely agree

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Speaker 1: with you. Like we're all doing things that we were

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Speaker 1: never trained to do, we were never sure we were

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Speaker 1: going to do, and we don't know how humans weren't

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Speaker 1: meant to be watched by millions totally. We can all

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Speaker 1: unequickly agree on the fact that in the evolution, you know,

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Speaker 1: timeline humans were never conditioned or trained or you know,

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Speaker 1: evolved to see and be viewed by millions of people.

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Speaker 1: It's just the facts. Yeah, yeah, I love that, all right.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen final question it is if you could create one

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Speaker 1: law that everyone in the world had to follow, what

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Speaker 1: would it be? If you buy ice cream, you should

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Speaker 1: buy one for your friend everyone? My three rather Christna

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Speaker 1: make sure you go and what never have I ever?

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Speaker 1: I'd also love for you to tag me and my

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Speaker 1: three on Instagram to let us know, and on Twitter

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Speaker 1: of course let us know. What were your favorite parts?

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Speaker 1: What were the things that she said that stood out,

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Speaker 1: that resonated and connected with you. I love seeing what

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Speaker 1: truly stays with you when you listen to these episodes,

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Speaker 1: and I'd love for her to see it as well.

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Speaker 1: My three, You've been amazing. I really do look forward

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Speaker 1: to meeting you. You have an open invite to my

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Speaker 1: please come over and hang out and you can. We

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Speaker 1: are older than you, so you can treat us as

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Speaker 1: you're older, whatever you want to call us, but we

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Speaker 1: truly mean that and look forward to meeting you and

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Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: This is actually really fun talk about all these things

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Speaker 1: that I haven't been able to before, so that means

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Speaker 1: that means a lot to me. I laughed a lot today,

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Speaker 1: so I'm glad. I had a lot of fun too.

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Speaker 1: I was laughing the whole time, and I meant it.

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Speaker 1: I really wanted to get to you know you today,

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Speaker 1: and I'm grateful let you let us do that. So

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