WEBVTT - The Parrot Episode 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:14.480 Heart Radio Cale and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:20.480 and there's Charles W. Trills a Lot Bryant, and there's 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.959 Jerry Roland, who's bright plumage is sticking me in the 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.960 face right now. And this is that was a great part. Uh. 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.600 And this is Stuff you Should Know about parrots, which 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.040 is a surprisingly interesting topic. Chuck. Nice one, nice pick. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.680 That's good. Just do that, dude, the whole time. We're 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.800 gonna we're gonna hammer out like a means of communication, 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:48.080 just with that sound throughout this episode. Okay, oh, man'd 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.240 be kind of great. You already broke character, Chuck, I 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.720 think to the relief of every single person listening to 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.280 So you were surprised, huh yeah, I mean, I know 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.640 parents are knee or whatever, but I and I knew 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.399 that they were probably one of the smartest animals, or 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.200 some of them are. Some are just you know, dumb 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.640 as door knobs, but there are plenty that are really smart. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.399 They make up for the really dumb ones. Um. But 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.360 I just I know I didn't know that they were 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:18.960 quite this this neat and also one of my new 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.440 favorite things is like watching little happy birds run like 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:26.480 hop around and sing. And there's a lot of parrots 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.360 that do that. It's like one of their traits, Like 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:34.200 they're really cute. Uh kind of animal. I love it. 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.640 In your mid forties, you're turned onto the joy of 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.039 birds chirping and jumping around. I didn't say I was 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.720 turned on by it, turned onto it. Oh gosh, there's 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.400 a big difference between those two. Uh. Have you ever 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:54.120 had any experience with parrots or known bird people? Uh? No, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:02:00.720 so tangentially I was um UM's grandma has or had 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.800 a parrot. She passed a year or so ago, but 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.120 her parrot is still alive. Um she had a couple, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:11.480 Brutal and Brutus, and Brutal was fine, but Brutus terrorized 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.760 you me when she was growing up, I mean like 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.560 terrorized her. And they didn't see her for many years. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.200 And when I was when I visited and met her 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.440 grandma and Brutus, Brutus like at first was just kind 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.280 of like oh hum. And then he you could tell 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.400 the moment he recognized Jumie and he lunged at her. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.400 He was like, you, I remember you. After all those years, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.359 he still just did not like umi for some reason. Yeah. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.959 I mean, I've got some parrots and bird stuff that 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.720 I'll pepper throughout when it's applicable. But you know, bird folks, 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.120 I mean, if you're a bird person. My experience has 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:50.839 been bird people are just sometimes a little eccentric. Oh yeah. 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.240 Bird people are definitely a certain type, just like cat 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.520 people are a certain type and dog people are certain types. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.760 But there's a lot of people and dog people sure. Yeah, yeah, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.720 I think that's one of the things that makes bird 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.560 people seem eccentric is there's far fewer of them. But 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.480 you know, one of the things I didn't realize it 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.800 could be. That could be also like the extensive stacks 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.720 of paperback fantasy novels that just line their floors throughout 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:17.120 their house. That too. Yeah. But one of the things 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.920 that I didn't realize is that birds are the fourth 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.920 um fourth most popular pet in the United States, which 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.440 makes sense if you think about it, But I never 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.760 really thought about all mine. Mine just stops after dogs, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.240 which are number one. Yeah, I mean dogs, cats, what 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:36.640 is it? Fish? And then birds. I would expect goats 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.880 to be somewhere on there, but I think people just 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:44.560 love seeing goats and not necessarily owning them. Yes, sure, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.120 but I think a lot of people who own birds 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.280 come especially parrots, come to feel the same way after 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.560 they've bought a parrot, as we'll see. Yeah, so should 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.400 we dig into this thing I thought we already had. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.720 So there are a lot of different kinds of parrots. Uh, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.360 they are, I mean, they're close to four hundred species 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.160 of the order. And I'd look this up in a 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:15.800 couple of places. Uh, citize for mese. Mm hmm, what 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.640 did you get? Uh, yeah, I thought you were gonna 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.000 say Citi signs, but yeah, that's that's how I would 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.640 have said it, okay. Uh, And we're talking like you know, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.720 if you think of a parrot, you probably think of like, oh, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.600 it's a macaw or an African gray. But if you've 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:35.039 seen a parakeet or a lorikeet, or a cockatiel or cockatoo, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.960 those are all parrots as well. Yeah, so I love 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.360 birds as well. There's there's a lot of different kinds 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.240 of birds that are parrots, and um, some of them 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.000 just don't even really look like it. You're like, no, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.440 that's an eagle, or I think that's a kind of vulture. 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:52.640 Like they're very they're really varied um order um. But 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.960 they all have in common a couple of things that 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.800 will see, one of which is a short beak that's 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:02.000 curved usually uh, which is very very powerful. And then 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.039 they also have a certain kind of toe arrangement called 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.200 the zygodactyl toe arrangements talk more about in a little bit, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.800 but other than that, they are really kind of very 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.600 like I was saying, in size and shape and color um, 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.520 and even down to some kinds of species. They can 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.400 be varied among the male and the female so much so. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:24.080 I think there's one, Oh, I can't remember which one 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.560 it was, um, but it was a kind of parrot, 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.359 smallish parrot where the males and the females look so 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.520 totally different color wise that they were thought to be 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.920 different species for a very long time. That's right, that's 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.520 the Solomon Island electus. Thank you, show off, but thank you. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.760 So you know, like you said, they vary in size. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.680 There are some that are so big, like uh, the 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.080 Coca poa in New Zealand that can be like a 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.680 seven pounder. Did you see any videos of those guys? 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.479 They're great. They can't even fly there so big, No, 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:01.080 they don't. They don't even they bound along their wings. 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.440 They don't work for flying, but they use them for 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.479 stability because they mostly climb trees. But they're yeah, they're 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:11.480 ground dwelling. They look like little furry or feathery mammals 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.440 basically sort of. I don't know why that hasn't been 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:17.159 a Disney character yet. I don't either, because they also 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.600 seemed to be very sweet. I saw some uh New Zealand, um, 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.920 like I guess researchers who were tracking them, and I 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.320 don't even think they put this one Coca poa under 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.559 when they took a blood sample. It was just laying 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:31.920 in their lap and I think it was just like 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.159 just basically like yeah, just hanging out, you know, like 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.680 go ahead, just take the blood and let me let 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.640 me go again. So they're super super chill um. But yeah, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.560 they would make a perfect Disney character for sure. Yeah. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.800 So those are the big daddies. Um. There are ones 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.800 from New Guinea that are just a few inches, way 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.800 less than an ounce. I think the highest Innthe macaw 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:57.080 is generally the biggest just in size. Uh. They can 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.560 be three and a half feet long. Um, they can 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.600 have four with wingspans and I think the kind of 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:06.120 trademark characteristic when you think of parrots though, or the 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.840 vibrant colors. Um, you know, some are like the gray 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.640 African gray is mainly just gray that has a little 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.840 bit of red. But when you think of parrots, you 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.400 think of those really brightly colored blues and greens and 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.360 reds and little rosy cheeks and stuff like that. Yeah, which, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.200 and I mean they're obviously the reason why parrots have 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.520 very bright colors is to attract mates. Like that's basically 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.200 the reason for anything to have a bright color, unless 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.920 it's showing that it's poisonous. And as far as we've 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:38.240 ever found, parrots are not poisonous. But one of the specialties, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:45.960 do you think, right, dead by dawn? One of the 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.800 specialties of the pigments in parrots. It's apparently not found 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.920 in other birds. The chuck is that those pigments have 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.440 antibacterial properties, which I guess keep them from getting like 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:01.200 wing rot or something like that. Yeah, there's um, there's 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.760 so I think it's called citico boy, here we go. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.160 Citico Fulvin's are those pigments, and they're found only in 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.160 parts There aren't even any other birds to have these. Yeah, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.080 But I mean other birds have colors, but they don't 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.960 have that specific kind of anti bacterial agent color pigment, right, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.320 that's right. And you mentioned the toes. That is a 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.000 um you know, along with I think like owls and woodpeckers, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.360 and I think there are some other birds that hive 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:33.280 these zygodactyl feet. But that means they have the usual 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:38.160 four toes, but most birds have three in one arrangement, 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.520 like three up front, one in the back. In this case, 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.160 they have two upfront, two in the back. So Juliet 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.640 helped us put this together, and she basically points out 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.680 that like this means they have two sets of opposable thumbs. 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:51.520 So that's why they're really good climbers, and they can 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.439 hold on to a branch like it's you know, until 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:59.839 the sun comes up dead by down style exactly. And 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.120 if you've ever seen a parrot work a nut or 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.320 seed or something with the combination of the beak in 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.800 those four toes, it's pretty pretty dexterrous. Yeah. That's also 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.040 again how those coca posts can climb trees without any 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.080 ability to fly. They I mean, they can maneuver, they 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.920 can hang and believe there's an upside down hanging type 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:23.680 of parrot, which I'm not sure why it hangs upside down, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.640 maybe just to show off that it has zygodactyl toes. 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.480 But they can do a lot with those things. And yeah, 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.720 in combination with their beak there, they're really working it. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.920 Apparently their beak as well. Um, that sharp, short curved 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:42.520 beak that that all parrots have is extremely powerful. Um. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.760 They move independently of one another lower beak in the 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.160 upper beak, so it can exert a lot of force. Um. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:52.439 And and that really helps out because a lot of 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.079 their food are like really hard nuts and seeds and 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.360 things like that, but they they're nothing in the face 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:03.360 of a parrots beak. Yeah, it's if you've ever been 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.320 chopped down on by a parrot, it's rough. Yeah, they'll 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.320 take a chunk of skin out. Yeah, they were. When 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:14.800 I worked in Arizona, that restaurant in Yuma, Julianna's Patio Cafe. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:18.600 It was an outdoor cafe and they had the owner, Julia, 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:22.560 had parrots and I think they were like five of them, 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.640 just kind of behind where you eat on these stands, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:32.000 not even caged. And they were mean, the snakes, not 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.200 to her they were, but if you were not her 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:35.880 and you went up and you were like, oh, let 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.719 me give you a little ear scratch. One of those 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.880 things could just fly its little head around and chop 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.439 down on your finger and it feels like it's in 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.880 a vice. Yeah, well you're lucky. They could have taken 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:53.760 your finger clean off. Probably there's there's anecdotal stories that, um, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.839 that we are not able to verify. But this, it's 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.160 definitely worth mentioning that a large parrot could snap a 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.560 broomstick with its beak, which is, if you read it, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:06.600 it's really impressive. When you say it out loud, you 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:11.720 feel very foolish a little bit. I mean, sure, I 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:16.480 guess it depends on the broom but it's it's really old, rotted, 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:20.640 termite rotted broomstick. Yeah, let's just say it's really really 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.360 a lot of force. Um, and my finger can vouch 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.880 for that. Was that some of the peppering you alluded 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.920 to earlier, that's one one kind of pepper, one grain 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.640 of pepper. Got I had a bird that'll come up later. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.240 I can't wait for that one. Um. So Chuckie, you're 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:41.719 saying that, like, um, they wouldn't bite Julia Julianna Julianna 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.920 Julia because she was part of their flock. As we'll 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.000 see um. And it turns out that there are some 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.040 parrots get along with other species of parrots and even 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.480 other species of birds and other kinds don't so much 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.880 so that when you read like a parrot owner's guide, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.560 they're basically like, if you're gonna get you know, other 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.280 birds do not get this kind with this kind. And ironically, 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.280 love birds are famously mean to other species of birds. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.480 But if you're in their flock, then you're you're one 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.760 of them. And that's one thing that one reason why 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.840 parrots make such great pets for so many people is 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:21.120 because they imprint with humans really well, and are you're 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.880 just a member of their family and they're a member 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.640 of your family. That's just the way it is to 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.920 the parrot. If you're an outsider interloper, yeah, they'll take 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.880 your finger off like it's an old broomstick. So Yumi 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.920 was never ingratiated herself, I I guess not, which just 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.200 surprising because everybody likes you, you know, I know, like 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.040 animals flocked to her like snow white. Basically, yeah, she's 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:44.600 always she's got this lamb following around. Now. I don't 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:46.480 know where that thing came from. It is cute, it 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:51.120 is the lambing is coming soon, unfortunately for the boy. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.800 Uh well, let's take a little break there then and 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.120 we'll come back and talk a little bit about Uh, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:02.200 parrots in the wild. Want to learn about astortic how 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.920 to take the perfect, but all about fractal get Kiscon's 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:07.160 hunt the Lizzie Border murders. That they kind of all 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:27.240 runs on the plane every day. We should know. Word up, Jerry. Okay, 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.640 So Chuck, we were talking. We're going to talk about 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.400 parrots in the wild UM, which is where they used 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.679 to be um more often than not, and still are. 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:42.040 Like there's something like three hundred and about three hundred 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:47.839 and sixty known species of parrots UM. But a lot 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.320 of them are dying off really quick, as we'll talk about. 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.040 But the thing about parrots were learning is that they're 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.920 really resilient, Like they can adapt and find homes and 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.360 make homes for themselves in new climates. So you'll find 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.680 them typically in their preferred area around the tropics, around 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.120 the equator, typically in the southern hemisphere, but you're also 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.640 going to find them like living up in mountain ranges, 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:15.880 high up on rocky outcrops. Um. You'll find them in 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.440 Chicago's Hyde Park. There's a bunch of Connecticut. They're kind 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.760 of all over the place. Even though no native species 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.440 UM from the United States are are still around, there's 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.680 still plenty of like wild feral parrots that live out 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.600 in the US. Yeah. When I was in Australia, UM, 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.400 we had a couple of down days and you know, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:39.520 my buddy Scotty, our friend Scotty, came over to join us, 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.920 and um we Scotty and I went down to wine 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.880 country south of south of Melbourne, which is just some 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.240 of those beautiful land I've ever seen in my life. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:54.480 And we were at a wine winery overlooking this huge 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.240 vineyard and then like the sort of woodland jungle, and 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.160 I saw these huge white birds flying around down there, 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.560 and we were the only people there. We were there 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.360 in the off season, so everywhere we went, we were 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.880 the only two people kind of tasting. And so we got, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.720 you know, to hang out with the the winemakers, which 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.520 is cool, and they said, uh, there was a cockatoose 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.960 and I was like, I was just a naive American. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.040 I didn't know they just flew around Australia like that. 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:25.240 And I said, just so you know those like they 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:27.040 sell those in stores for a lot of money in 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.560 the United States, And I said, it's just crazy to 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.840 me that they're just flying around. Yeah, apparently there was 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.480 a time not terribly long ago where you could see 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:42.960 beautiful green cockatoos um or parakeets i'm sorry, flying around 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.560 the United States until we drove them to extinction about 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.320 a hundred or so years ago. Yeah, the Carolina went 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.040 in there, a North Carolina parakeet, the Carolina parakeet. Yep. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.480 It was just this gorgeous, green, beautiful parakeet that was 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.280 native to the United States. Um and I saw some things. So, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:05.000 you know. Passenger pigeons were also famously um uh, driven 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:10.200 to extinction. The last Carolina parakeet died in the same 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:13.680 cage that the last passenger pigeon, Martha died in at 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:16.360 the Cincinnati Zoo. So the Cincinnati Zoo had the honor 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.720 of keeping captive the last passenger pigeon and the last 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:24.440 Carolina parakeet and killing them. Right, They had this one 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.560 zookeeper who was in charge of strangling the last one 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.680 just to give it over with because they couldn't couldn't 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.560 stand the tin in any longer. You know, They're like, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.800 just get it over with. Oh, I've got a joke 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.600 that is, so I'm not going to tell because I 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.360 would upset bird lovers, So tell me later. I'll tell 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:44.160 you later. Uh So, these parents, they mainly stay up 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.480 in the trees. Obviously, they do come down if they 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.560 were going to drink something and sometimes if they need 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:51.520 to find something to eat if they can't get it 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:54.680 up there, And they generally do this kind of follow 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.440 the humans patterns of kind of hanging out and doing 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.680 the stuff during the day and sleeping at night unless 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.920 you're a coca peo or a night parrot, and they 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.040 are nocturnal, which is um. I think they're the only 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.000 two of the species. What's neat about those coca posts? 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.480 Who is um? They be from being nocturnal, the eyes 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.879 have migrated from the sides of their heads towards the 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.600 front of their face, and they've developed this kind of 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.080 puffy feathers around their eyes. So they're also known as 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.480 the owl parrot because they've started to kind of resemble 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.720 the owl, and the owl is typically nocturnal as well. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:27.600 Are you going to get a Coca peo. I think 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.159 I might. Actually, there's only a hundred and fifty left me. 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.760 I could probably be arrested, but at the very least, 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.800 I'm going to give it a shot. You know. So 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:39.840 they are omnivores and they will generally eat seeds and 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.440 nuts and plants and fruits and things and insects. But 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.600 if they need to eat, you know, a parrot's gonna 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.080 do what a parent's gonna do. This is crazy, and 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.160 this is you know, this can cause problems. I think 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.399 the African gray can feast on corn, which has caused 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:57.840 problems with corn crops in New Zealand. This is the 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:02.200 crazy part. Uh. In the kind of mid eighteen hundreds 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.879 in New Zealand, keys k e a s We're discovered 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.000 to be and this is sort of horrifying. Eating sheep 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.960 and attacking sheep in the middle of the night. Yes, well, 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:15.119 I guess it was in the middle of the night 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.480 because they're not they're not nocturnal. But in my mind, 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.040 it's a horror movie and it happens in the middle 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.760 of the night to me the most, the like the 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.720 middle of the day makes things even more horrific. Things 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:27.680 aren't bad. Things aren't supposed to happen in the middle 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:29.920 of You're supposed to happen at night in the woods, 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.480 you know, good point, not not in the middle of 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.520 a field in the day. So seeing some parrots attack 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.520 and eat a sheep in the middle of the day, 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:43.959 that's bad news. But those things, actually they look a 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.879 lot like eagles more so than parrots to me. So 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.320 you give them a pass. Yeah, that's fine. What I'd 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.320 like to see. I'd like to see them all try 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.480 to carry off a sheep together with teamwork, you know, 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.840 But I don't think that's how it goes. Well, there's 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:03.920 your cartoon that's like a ziggy cartoon. I think they 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.919 I think they put parrot repellent on because you know, 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.400 they back in the day, they would just kill them 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.920 all and let God sort of ount. That's what happened 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.359 to the Carolina parrot key. Yeah exactly. But they, you know, 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.040 eventually they were like, we can't just kill these keys, 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.440 Like we're a more evolved you know, humankind at this point, 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.920 and we got to stop this stuff. We gotta protect them. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.560 So they've looked for ways to to keep from having 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.760 to do that, and one of them is that parrot 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:35.359 repellent on the cheep's bellies, which it's probably like that 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.440 stuff you tried to use on your fingernails to keep 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.320 from biting them. I used to coat my fingers in that. 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.880 But you just slather in a sheep's belly and call 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.560 it a day. Yeah, it's very better. One thing I 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:48.040 did want to add though, when you were talking about 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.960 their range and they can end up in weird places. 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:54.359 I remember when we would do commercial shoots in Pasadena, California, 0:19:54.880 --> 0:20:00.359 and we would have the Unlucky Parrot Location, which is 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.880 basically anywhere in Pasadena. On any given day, you could 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.879 be near a bunch of parrots making a ton of 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.320 noise and you can't shoot, You know how it is 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.760 with sounds like you can't you can't pay the guy 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:17.120 to turn off his blower or his lawnmower. Yeah, but 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:22.280 you can't. Yeah, I want two and free reign at 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:26.760 the craft services table. But yeah, those uh, those Pasadena parrots, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.399 they have disrupted many film shoot so um. Yeah. So 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.560 you're like, well, wait a minute, there's not native parrots 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:34.800 in the United States. How are there a bunch of 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.719 parrots in the trees in Pasadena? Well, people let their 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.840 parents go, or people die in their parrots escape or 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.399 what have you. Um And like I was saying before, 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:48.320 it's like they're really resilient. And once they start forming 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.080 breeding pairs, even though they have like a really low 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:55.320 reproduction rate. Um as we'll see in a second, they 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.120 they can they can survive. They can make new niches 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.919 for themselves, which is pretty cool. But they're all there's 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:06.080 there's a lot in Florida, Texas, and California. I think 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:11.879 every kind of species that has a population is supported 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:15.119 in all three of those states. Right in the Connecticut 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.520 one is just a that's a very weird thing. Yeah. 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:21.280 In Chicago's Hyde Park too, it's like the roof caves 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.920 in on people's houses in the winter in Chicago. There's 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.040 so much snow and it's so cold, Like, how are 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:33.600 parrots surviving? But apparently they do. It's crazy, so they 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:35.680 live And this is this is pretty great. This is 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.200 where stuff you should know things intersect or love of uh, 0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:43.760 collections and groupings of animals, sounds of assemblage. Yeah, pandemonium 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.879 of parrots is what it's called. For good reason, like 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.600 I said, because they are super noisy and can be 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.840 aggravating in large numbers. When they're out in the wild 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.480 and they live together, they help each other out, they 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.800 feed with each other, they look out for each other, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.600 they keep track of each other, and they communicate with 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.440 each other. All those squawks and screams that you hear 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:07.399 when a bunch of when a pandemonium is gathered, is 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.560 them talking to each other. And they might be saying, 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.320 you know, film crew, or they might be saying snake 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.280 or monkey like look out. Yeah. I also have the impression, 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:21.760 from spending hours and hours of watching beautiful parrots of 0:22:21.800 --> 0:22:26.480 all types seeing and be happy um that that they're 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.440 just basically sharing how they're feeling at any given points 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.920 sometimes too, and that a lot of times it's real positive. 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.680 You know, they're talking about how great things are beautiful 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:39.560 the day is. I could be anthropomorphizing, but it really 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.000 really seems that way. They just seem like kind of 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:47.360 a happy, happy type of animal. I'm like, I want 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.800 to buy into that too. I'm with you. Just go ahead. 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.600