1 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, September sixteenth, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: episode number twenty two. Welcome to the latest edition of 9 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At 10 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: the start, we got so much to talk about today. 11 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys got big news. It ain't great. We're gonna talk 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: about what it means to the team. We're also gonna 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: get into too in the second segment, the Cowboys offense 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: versus the Charger defense. Well book Bucky Brooks joining us 15 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: as usual on a Thursday, and then we'll talk a 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: little bit more about that matchup and some interesting things 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: that were said earlier in the week that might affect 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: the matchup from the defense and special teams part of 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: this team. Let's start first with the news to Marcus Lawrence. 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: We find out yesterday afternoon that he has broken his foot, 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: and I guess at this point the first question is 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: what are we expecting as far as timeline on when 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: you can maybe expect him to be back two months yep, 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks. But I mean there's no wig. 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Is this one of those things where was it a 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: sixth d eight week? Because sometimes before the coach says it, 27 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: like there's just the speculations. You know, you have the 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: people out there that are sports doctors on Twitter that say, hey, 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: this is typically sixth eight or is this like, hey, 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: pretty much that it was a sixty eight. The thing 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: about broken bones from and certainly not a doctor, and 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: I stayed at home last night, so I don't know anything. 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this, like broken bones are good 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: and bad for the same reason. I mean, it's like 35 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: it's a broken bone. It's it's not gonna probably be 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: a lot less than that. It's not going to be 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: for oh, that he actually healed. I mean something. Bones 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: do heal differently, but for the most part, it's a 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: broken bone. Now it's also a broken bone, and it's 40 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: and it's like it'll heal, and when it heals, you 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: should be ready to go. So it's kind of I 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: think these are the timetables that are typically spot on, 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, six to eight wiggle ruin, but nothing that 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: should linger too much. It's also it's a bone in 45 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: the probably the worst place, just because of how much 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: you need your foot. I mean, obviously you put weight 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: on it, but playing defensive end is so much about 48 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: bend and kind of torquing, and you flex your foot 49 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: and put your foot in weird positions. The reason I 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: said two months is just everything we've heard is that 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: this is very similar to the injury he suffered when 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: he was a rookie way back when, and that happened 53 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: in August and he didn't play until November. Second, which 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: it's a little different, I will acknowledge, because you got 55 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: to remember the rules were vastly different back then. Like 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: if you go on IR to return, that's eight it 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: was eight weeks. It was eight weeks minimum. So part 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: of that was that he was already on part of that, right, 59 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: So if it's a three week I are maybe he 60 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: can come back a little sooner than that. But this 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: is this is a six to eight week injury. And 62 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: when you think about your foot like this isn't your 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: hand where you can wrap that in some gauze and 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: go play and fight through the pain like you need. 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: You need your foot to play anything in football, but 66 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: defensive end for sure. So I leaned toward the longer 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: end of the timeline just because it's not something that 68 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: you want to rush back and reinjure. When you get 69 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: out there and start ian, you think about leveraging against 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: guys and putting weight on your foot and how much 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: that plays into it. So, I mean, even we need 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: two returns after six to eight weeks, my assumptions it's 73 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: going to take a little while for him to get 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: built back up again to be able to play coming 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: off a foot injury like that. Right, It's it's a 76 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: brutal lost. There's no way around it. Our pets heads 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: are fallen off. So what what What is the thing 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: that this team misses the most? Without DeMarcus Lawrence, they 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: don't have of proven past rusher, slash, disruptive defensive end. 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: They definitely don't have one right now because Randy Gregory's 81 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: on the COVID list. But and we all love Randy 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: and it's a great story, but even he does not 83 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: have the resume of DeMarcus Lawrence. He's got ten career sacksum. 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: He's not as dynamic as a weird word, but he's 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: not as awesome in the run game. He's good. Like 86 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory is a good player. DeMarcus Lawrence is a 87 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: great player. They do not have another. Yeah, they don't 88 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: have another. That's harsh to say. A good player like 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence is the best that they've got. 90 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: They already didn't have Neville Gallimore and they lost him 91 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: in August. Like they got a bunch of journeymen and 92 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: unproven young players all over their defensive line, and they 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: just it's it's a tough blow to when you think 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: about it. The four guys that I think most of 95 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: us would have penciled in as their starters going before 96 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: we got to training camp, all four of them will 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: miss this game. You would think about Lawrence Gregory at 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: that ends, you would think probably Tristan Hill was a 99 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: guy that we would think. It was probably gonna be 100 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: about Galimore you thought was going to be a starter. 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: So all four of the guys you thought would be 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: the starter back in the off season, all four of 103 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: them will be out this game, and you think, like 104 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: training camp, it was easy to say, like, oh, like 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of depth on the defensive line, 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: and that was true in the sense of bodies, but 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: their depth in the sense of guys that you felt 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: excited about was Randy, DeMarcus Neville Gallimore. They're not gonna 109 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: have any of the three of them probably for this game, 110 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: and obviously it's going to be a bit of a 111 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: weight on Gallimore and DeMarcus Nick. Do you think that, Sorry, 112 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: I was just I mean, I'm reluctant to just completely 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: rule out Gregory. It's fair, but after what we heard 114 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: from Zack Martin, and I know they have different symptoms 115 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: and all that, but like Zach Martin basically said yesterday 116 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: that he was never going to play and it was 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: never even close that he was going to play. He 118 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: kind of he like dismissed it as kind of crazy talk, really, 119 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's he did that on a couple of 120 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: things he did. Now he there's been some talk a 121 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: little bit about, oh, he doesn't want to play right tackle, 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: he only will play right guard. He said he'll do 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is that the team wants, which is why 124 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: I kind of thought the situation right ahead, But he 125 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: also made it clear he's a right guard and that's 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: where he wants to be, and why not. There's nothing 127 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: wrong with that. If I'm if I'm an elite at 128 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: one thing, if I did one thing at the best 129 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: of anyone's ever done it, I don't want to do 130 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: something else right, And I think that's kind of how 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: the team is approaching it. It's going to require the 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: wheels falling off with Terrence Steele or tie in Secy 133 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: at right tackle before they make that kind of move, 134 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: which and he said that as well. He's like last 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: year was a completely different circumstance. We were down six 136 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: tackles instead of one. And you know what, I get it. 137 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: I get it, and well let's you know, there's work. 138 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like we're gonna be without Lyle for a while. 139 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Like you know, that's a murky situation all on its own, 140 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: but you can adjust as this goes along. But try 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: it out. You got you can try them both. You 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: can give them help and we we've done this before. 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I know it was brutal last year, but like we've 144 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: had games where we didn't have these guys since the 145 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Chazz Green game and it's been okay, so it's you 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: know that I'm coming to terms. I'm coming. I'm making 147 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: peace with that situation as we go through the week. 148 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking of as I was 149 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: driving today, and Dave helped me with math. Here, no, no, no, 150 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: I think you can do this before me. Okay. So 151 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: here we are, second game of the season, and and 152 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: you've got Gallop gonna miss let's say four games, three 153 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: to five. Let's just say he misses four games. We've 154 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: got Tank now it's gonna miss six games. Okay, so 155 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: we're at ten, and then now you've got who else 156 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: is Za Zach Lyle. That's five games. Zach missed the game, 157 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Gregory probably gonna miss a game. So we've got seventeen eighteen, 158 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: six sixteen, okay, sixteen games here in the first you know, 159 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: early part of the season. Have we seen any of 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: the injuries? I mean, we haven't seen one thing that 161 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: happened that led to all this. Now, when Dak went down, 162 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: everyone unfortunately saw that. It was nasty and terrible. When 163 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: you saw it and you're like, this is terrible. I 164 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: don't know if anyone saw great. Mean, I didn't see 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: Gallup go off. I mean just all of a sudden, 166 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: he's hurt. No one saw other than the people on 167 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: the field. No one saw Tank, you know, no one 168 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: saw these things. You don't see, of course, you don't 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: see failed tests or anything like that. Next thing, you know, 170 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: you just look it up, it's like, oh, he's gone. 171 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: You know. I'm not saying it makes it better or worse, 172 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: but it's just kind of weird when you're like, um, 173 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: this is not happening. You know, you didn't see it, 174 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: but trust me, he's got a broken foot, or he 175 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: failed his test, or he's got COVID, you know, whatever 176 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: it is. It's like dang. I mean, at least you'd 177 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: like to kind of see it for yourself and say, oh, 178 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: that's why he's out. Tristan Hill last year, Yeah, that's 179 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: why he's out. No, it's just kind of behind closed doors, 180 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: like these things are happening that are derailing this team early. 181 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: So you look at what's happening right now with the 182 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: loss of Gregory, you got guys like Role Basham and Armstrong. 183 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: Darn's Armstrong. That will probably be the guys that will 184 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: have to pick up the slack. Do you think either 185 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: one of those guys is capable of getting into that 186 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: five to eight sacks on the year type role. Do 187 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: you think they could provide that or do you think 188 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: this is just a situation where if Gregory isn't getting 189 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: the sacks, everybody else is gonna be down that two 190 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: to three range and you're basically gonna have to manufacture 191 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: sacks by blitzing and doing that kind of thing. Five 192 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: to eight is not I mean, that's okay, but I 193 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: mean I think about I can think of two players 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: that had in that range in the last ten years, 195 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: like Mensi and Selvy and necessarily in the role right 196 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: And and that's that's with the expectation by the way 197 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: that greg we're on the other side, is going to 198 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: be your guy, Like that's the guy that's going to 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: get the bulk of your sacks. Can this guy play 200 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: the complimentary role and getting that five to eight sack range? 201 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is was it this show where we 202 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: were saying, you know, there's even the worst offense in 203 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: the league has got to have a go to receiver. 204 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, the stats have to come from somewhere. You're 205 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: gonna probably have twenty five to thirty five whatever the 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: number of Sacks is so just from a statistical standpoint, 207 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: I guess so, But no, no, I don't really well, 208 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't see either one of those guys becoming like 209 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: a complimentary player that you feel good about, I guess, 210 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: And I mean, if I'm the Cowboys, I need to 211 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: go do something. And I'm I'm not saying they need 212 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: to move having an earth like an Amari Cooper type 213 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: of situation, but like they need an edge rusher who's 214 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: not on this team right now. Can I paint a 215 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: picture for you, guys, you look at a guy like 216 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong. I'm not any way suggesting he's at the 217 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: level of either of the guys that are parting, But 218 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the one thing you can say about Dare's Armstrong is 219 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: from the time that he's gotten here, it seems like 220 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: every year he gets a little bit better and a 221 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: little bit better. And this last year during camp, I 222 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: think he was as good as we've ever seen him. 223 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: Even last week he makes a play that that could 224 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: have turned down, like he got quite there. But you're 225 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: like you saw a flash, right. Is he a guy 226 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: that maybe is at that point where he may turn 227 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: into a complimentary type pass rusher he's good against the run. 228 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: So is this maybe the guy that might end up 229 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: being your guy that maybe has an opportunity here to 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: step up and maybe fill that role show me. Yeah, 231 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: that's all fair, Yeah, absolutely fair. But I'm saying, like 232 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: before you go, before you to take the step of 233 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: going out and getting someone else, would you like to 234 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: at least see what maybe he can do in that 235 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: type of situation. No, because you need you probably need 236 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: four anyway, and they don't. They won't have that until 237 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: Tank comes back. I think I think Durrance is the 238 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: reason why you don't think you need to get two guys, 239 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: you know. I think I think you need to get someone. 240 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: You need to get some experienced help if you can. 241 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: And we all know if there's a pass rusher that's 242 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: not not playing a lot or out on the street, 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: and there's other reasons why people. I mean, I get 244 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: that the market, the market's not amazing. I don't know 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: that you're gonna find a lot better talent just sitting 246 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: on this show. I think I heard a few names 247 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: and one of them was drafted here right. Yeah, Yeah, 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: that that ain't I know, I can't see that happening. 249 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: You stick with what you get. I mean, i'd move 250 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: Urban out before I do that. I don't know his 251 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: sit talking about Taco Charles, Yeah, yeah, I don't know 252 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: his situation. But Olivier Vernon is available. It makes me 253 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: wonder if he's dealing with an injury. You need to 254 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: look into that. But yeah, he played well for the 255 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Browns last year. Tell me what's the issue with um? 256 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: What's the guys? Was he with the Falcons first round pick? No, 257 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm missing oh Vic Beasley? Yeah, what's his deal? I'm 258 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think he might he might be washed, 259 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: just in terms of he wasn't playing well anymore well 260 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: and and he was with Atlanta, right, Yeah, well he 261 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: was with Atlanta that they cut him like Atlanta was 262 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: like thank you for your services. So that that's one 263 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: of those things again where people try to connect the 264 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: dots and say, oh, this guy was just talking about 265 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: the other day. It might be like, yeah, we're okay, yeah, 266 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: we're good here. Um, Olivia Vernon tore his achilles in 267 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs, that's right. So I don't know where he is. 268 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't know where he is in his recovery from that. No, 269 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: it's nine months that age achilles I'm good, like, I 270 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I think that's better 271 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: than what you got it? Have you need Bradley and 272 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: I to step up? Or if I'm saying this, but 273 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Kamara Okay, Okay, I mean, well, some somebody has to Okay, 274 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: I mean, would they consider making Urban a defensive end? 275 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: You know what I would do? Honestly, I'm I'm I'm 276 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: rushing Jalen Smith off the edge. I certainly would not 277 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: every play, not every snap, but um, I'd rather rush 278 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Parsons off the edge. Well, but you can't just know 279 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I 280 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: would use him in that role, and maybe we have 281 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: Jalen playing a little more linebacker when they're in the middle. 282 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Like That's the way I would look at it, because 283 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I think Parsons is a better I know, but I 284 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: think Parsons is a better pass rusher than Jalen is. 285 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I think blitzing is gonna need to be a larger 286 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: part of this game. I agree. That's what I don't 287 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm sending safeties and corners. I'm I'm sending all kinds 288 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: of stuff. Think the thing about Jalen is that. I mean, 289 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: he he's a physical presence. I mean him, he's got 290 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: the stature, he's he's taller, he's bigger. I'm not saying 291 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be great at it, but he's when he's 292 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: going north, he's he's not terrible when he I agree 293 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: with you, and that's if you want to blitz him 294 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: through the A gap, go for it. But I'm imagining, like, 295 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: what's Jalen's issue. He's not explosive. What do you need 296 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: to be to get around the corner on an NFL 297 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: offensive tackle? Explosive? And I just don't know how that's 298 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: gonna go for it. And the other thing to notice 299 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: about Jalen is when he actually is blitzing, He's not 300 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the guy that has moves. If you get on him, 301 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: he's not getting off. If you're gonna rush him from 302 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: the outside, he better have some moves. And I don't 303 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: expect that he does. So I don't know that I 304 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: would use him all. I gotta play him somewhere, So 305 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you don't. Yeah, you only had sixteen 306 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: snaps last week, so I don't know. I mean you 307 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to. You know, you said it before. 308 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: If Jay Layton is the guy that maybe needs to 309 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: get more snaps. So if you're gonna do that, I 310 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: would say maybe you use Layton a little bit more 311 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: in the middle. And if you want to take a 312 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: couple of snaps where you put Parsons on the edge 313 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: and let him rush from the edge, I think maybe 314 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: that's something worth saying. Jordan Lewis is going to be 315 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: rushing from the edge, hear that, I mean from the slot, 316 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: from the you know, we've seen that he's he's pretty 317 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: good at it, you know, like corner blitz is and 318 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: all that. So it's like we said yesterday, it's a 319 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: little bit of everything. And I trust this is where 320 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: this is where you you get dan Quinn to do 321 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: do his job. I mean, like it's not easy, but 322 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to figure it out and and he'll 323 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: he'll come up with an exotic plan. That's that's what 324 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: you hope. I would take my fifth round pick and 325 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: go find somebody else's to al Basham and that's I mean, 326 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: that's not sexy. I get it. He's not going to 327 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: completely revitalize this thing. But I just think if you 328 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: can find somebody with a track record, because Basham is 329 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: really I mean, Doran's Armstrong is a good player, but 330 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: he's got two and a half career sacks. Basham is 331 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: he's got seven and a half of the ten sacks 332 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: that are left on the roster right now. We would 333 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: you be a little I'll take it a step further. 334 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: I'll I mean, and it may be the same, but 335 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: I would take something. I'll try to get somebody's Dorn's Armstrong. 336 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: And I mean that you're saying the same we are, 337 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know about Basham's contract. But a lot 338 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: of times when you're trading, you're training for contract and 339 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well, some team would be like because 340 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: if someone called, maybe not this week, but if they 341 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: would have called before and offered a fourth or fifth 342 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: round pick for Doran's Armstrong, you do it. He's gonna 343 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: be a free agent next year. And you're like, well, 344 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's probably the comp pick we would get 345 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: in two years, so you'd probably do it because he's 346 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: contracts though, but you know that team needs him now. 347 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: So there's probably another guy like that in Basham Armstrong, 348 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: same type of thing. But there's a team probably out 349 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: there that's like, this guy's been Okay, he's probably we're 350 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: not We're gonna probably resign on next year, so we'll 351 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: take something for him. Yeah. The only thing I wonder 352 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: about there is just the quality of the guy that 353 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: you're going to get in that kind of scenario. I 354 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: don't know if it's better than than what you got 355 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: to just kind of. I mean, this is a one 356 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: week problem to some degree, because if you get if 357 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: you get Gregory back, then you still have those other 358 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: three and now you got your four man rotation if 359 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: you're including an eye in that. So I think though, 360 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: with the world we're in, you have to always expect 361 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: which guy's gonna get COVID this week and be out true, 362 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: So you have to go a little bit deeper. And 363 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: I just think and I and Kamara, I mean they're 364 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: they're not. I don't think that they're there yet. I'm 365 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: with Dave, and I has played eighteen snaps of defense 366 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: to this point in his career and Kamara has played none. 367 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: So I'm not okay, I won't throw names out. I 368 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: want to get us in trouble, But if there was 369 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: certain if there was a player that the Cowboys have 370 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: had like three times here and he's on another team's 371 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: practice squad. But he's been here all of camp, and 372 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: he was here all of camp last year. Would you 373 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: go get him? I wouldn't pay too much for that, 374 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: But you don't have to pay a lot he's on 375 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: the practice squad or just poach him. Yeah, that's fine 376 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: with me. He's been on he's been in the last 377 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: two training camps. If you're going to somebody else's practice squad, 378 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: because then you don't have to worry about giving them 379 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: picks or anything else, Like you can just go get 380 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: a guy out someone's practice squad. So yeah, I think 381 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: that actually makes a lot more sense. That's better than 382 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: going to free agency and trying to find somebody that's 383 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: not on the team at all. Right, So so yeah, 384 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's more for depth purposes in my opinion. 385 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: That's more for I just need more bodies right now. 386 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: But I just I feel like, right now, if they're 387 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: gonna be able to survive this, it's really going to 388 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: be about those top, those relatively relative top guys bash 389 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: him Armstrong and their ability to step up, because whatever 390 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna get from somebody else's practice squad is not 391 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: going to be better than those guys. You really need 392 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: to figure out how if those guys can step up 393 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: and give you some pass rush. 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Back to the Break whether 436 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: you're watching from home or cheering in the stands Esler 437 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: lenses is what you'll need for every exciting play book. 438 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: An appointment that your local Esseler experts and find the 439 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: perfect lens for you. See more, Do more. Welcome back, 440 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: second segment of The Break Life from the s WBC 441 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: Mortgage studios. At the start, we got joining us right now, 442 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks from NFL Network. We got a lot to 443 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: talk about. We're going to talk about the Dallas offense 444 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: versus the Chargers defense. But before we get to that, Buck, 445 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: I need you to give us a little insight on 446 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: what you think the Cowboys can and will do now 447 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: that they are going to be without DeMarcus Larne for 448 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: presumably six to eight weeks. Yeah. I think dan Quinn 449 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys kind of anticipated maybe losing some people 450 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: along the front line, which is why they kept all 451 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: the linebackers with many of us speculated that one of 452 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: those guys may be out James Smith or Labe Bends 453 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: and the life and so because of the I would say, 454 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: the flexibility and the versatility that they have in the core, 455 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: I think you'll see those four guys on the field 456 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neill, Michael Parkson's, James Smith, Lady Vanders because what 457 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: it does is it actually makes it more difficult for 458 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: the offense to figure out which one of those guys 459 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: could come because all of them have unique skill sets. 460 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: And so if you're Dan Quinn, you dig a little 461 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: deeper into the blitz bag. You bring some creative things 462 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 1: and you try to heat them up using pressure as 463 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: opposed to using your standard traditional for man rush. He's 464 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: typically not a big blitz guy, but I think he 465 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: certainly hasn't in the playbook. They may have to lean 466 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: on that and really trust on the guys on the 467 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: outside to be able to hold up in coverage. All right, 468 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: that's a good feedback actually, And we did get a 469 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: chance to see some of that during training camp because 470 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: Mark Slarrence was out during training camp and we saw 471 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: a lot of situations where those linebackers were on the field. 472 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: A lot of them were on the field together. Let's 473 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: now flip and talk about the Cowboys offense versus the 474 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: Chargers defense. Tell me, when you look at this Chargers team, 475 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: particularly their defense, what are they better at? Are they 476 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: better at protecting against the run or better in past defense? Well, 477 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Brandon said, this is really good defensive mind. And even 478 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: though he's not the coordinated, it's going to be his defense. 479 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: And so you can see a lot of creative things 480 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: that are built around the players. The two players that 481 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: you have to keep an eye on. One will be 482 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. The second will be Darrowyn James. And he 483 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: is trying to remake this defense in the same image 484 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: that he made the Rams defense, where you had the 485 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: one guy who was able to do all the things 486 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: at the front line, and then you have a star 487 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: player that the versatile players that can do a bunch 488 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: of things in the back end. And so because of that, 489 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: what they're going to do is the first thing he's 490 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: gonna start, you gotta take away to run because they're 491 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: going to want the Cowboys to throw the ball all 492 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: over the art like they did versus the Tampa Bay 493 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: Bucaneers because in their mind, more negative things are going 494 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: to happen when the Cowboys have to throw, because if 495 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: they can let the Cowboys run, then the Cowboys can 496 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: control the tempo, shrink the game, and keep the Chargers 497 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: offense on the sideline. So gold number one has to 498 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: be to take ze Kelly away and put the game 499 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: on Dak shoulders and make Kellen Moore and those guys 500 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: call fifty plus passes like they did on Thursday night. Obviously, 501 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Joey Bossa's an outstanding pass rusher, and it looks like 502 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: he's a little bit more of a speed rusher than 503 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: he is power. I'm not saying he's not strong, but 504 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: it seems like he's more of a speed guy. Would 505 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: you put steal on him or insecting if you were 506 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: making the call, I don't think it really matters because 507 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: the favorite goals to the Charges in that matchup. You 508 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: have to play with somebody, Yeah, you have to. It's 509 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: like if you put if you put steal on there, 510 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: because the Feelers played and those things like, you better 511 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: be able to pay attention to both and make sure 512 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: that you have a plan to either chip him, fly 513 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: to him, roll away from him because he's going to 514 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: be a problem and even if you try and hide 515 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: a week link on the line of scrimmage, they're going 516 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: to move both around to give him the favorable matchup. 517 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: So this has to be a plan where Kevin Moore says, Okay, 518 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: if we're getting if we're having problems, if they're heating 519 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: us up, we got to move. We have to move 520 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: the parking around. We have to do some creative things 521 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: and be able to get the ball out of our hands. So, 522 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: going back to your point, Bucky about them committing to 523 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: the run, I'm curious and please correct me if I'm wrong, 524 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: But Brandon Staley seems to have a preference for playing 525 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: too high and limiting what you can do in the 526 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: passing game, which makes me wonder do they have the 527 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: personnel to stop Zeke without really committing to it. And 528 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: between Kenneth Murray, I think lyn Vaal Joseph is a 529 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: really underrated player. I mean, how how well can they 530 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: do that without really committing to putting a bunch of 531 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 1: guys in the box. So they're funny because they're one 532 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: of the teams that when he's in the wrongs, they 533 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: played great defense with set package on the field, little 534 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: guys finding a way to plug up the holes. What 535 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: he would do if he'll show that two high look, well, 536 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: they're moving up front line stops in games to put 537 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: those guys in their gaps once it's post snapped. And 538 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: so Linville Joseph was a huge pickup because what he 539 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: can do. He can eat up blockers and allow those 540 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: little linebackers to run and play in space. But it 541 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: will be a game early well they will see if 542 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: they can defend it with a light box. But they're 543 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: going to make sure that they take twenty two, twenty 544 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: one out again. They got to say zepa and out again. 545 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: You were talking about them committing to the run, and 546 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about that. Against Washington. They 547 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: allowed one hundred and twenty six rushing yards a four 548 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: point seven yards per attempt, which is pretty good. What 549 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: did Washington to do that allowed them to be successful? 550 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Because I think I would assume, especially as that game 551 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: wore on and they didn't have their starting quarterback anymore, 552 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: I would assume their game plan probably was we need 553 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to stop the run first and foremost and put the 554 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: game on Heinekes shoulders. What did they do and can 555 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: Dallas replicate that? Well? I mean, I think the difference 556 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: is like when you look at Washington's personnel. Gibson is 557 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: a good player. I don't think he's a great player. 558 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 1: So sometimes what defenses will do is they will say, hey, man, 559 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: he can have as many as he can because he 560 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: can't impact the game in a negative way. Their scariest 561 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: personnel is Terry McLaurin and maybe Logan Thomas. So let's 562 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: take those guys away. What they did versus Washington, they 563 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: will not do versus Dallas because the respect fact that 564 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: that they have for the running game is going to 565 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: be greater than what it was for the Washington football 566 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: teams running game. And so that game plan that we 567 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: saw is probably not going to be what say features. 568 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: He's going to make sure that they kind of get 569 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: around the box. They mix in some double coverage tactic 570 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: to maybe take away a Maury Cooper and Ceedee Lamb 571 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: randomly and then try and play that guessing game with 572 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: and more to see what Killer Moore wants to do. 573 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: And Killer Moore's comments he talked about and I saw 574 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: Dave like this and gotta pointed out on Twitter he 575 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: said he all yards are the same, and it's not 576 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: because if the Cowboys are passing a lot, they can't 577 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: necessarily control the game within completion if they give it 578 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: to him. Yes, they got to be efficient, but they 579 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: still got to run the ball because this needs to 580 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: be a game where time of possession is in the 581 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: thirty one thirty two range for the Cowboys. Who do 582 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: you think's the biggest guy that that's going to replace Gallop? 583 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying in his spot, which will 584 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: probably be Cedric Wilson, but who's that next? Is it 585 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 1: the tight end or do they lean on him? Did 586 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: they lean on Pollard more I mean, who do you 587 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: think is the next player? Kind of in that progression, 588 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: I think they try and flirt with the tightens a 589 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: little bit, but I think Tony Poller would certainly move 590 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: up in the pecking order a little bit. But it 591 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: might be an opportunity to all right, well we don't 592 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: have Gallop on the field. Well, that need more balls 593 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: for CD Lamb and maybe more balls Ford Morey. Cool. 594 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: So rather than get keyed and trying to figure out 595 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: what other guys that could bring in, maybe they're saying 596 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: our guys have been than your guys that we're gonna 597 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: see the tig Okay, he's been hurt for most of 598 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: the last two years, it feels like. But and it's 599 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: one game to go on. But how what does Derwin 600 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: James look like with Brandon Staley, Because I mean, he 601 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: was able to do so much fun stuff with Jalen 602 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: Ramsey last year, and I think Derwin James has a 603 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: comparable amount of talent. Obviously different position, but I'm just 604 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: curious what do you see from him and how they 605 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: might try to use him one and the same really, 606 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: because like the funny thing about Derwyn James and Jalen 607 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Ramsey going all the way back to Florida State, they've 608 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: always kind of followed in each other's footsteps. I think 609 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: Derwyn James has considered Jalen Ramsey's little brother because of 610 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: the intail that Brandon was able to get from Jalen Ramsey. 611 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: He knows exactly how to use Derwyn James. So you 612 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: will see Derwin James occupied what they call the star 613 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: position instead nickel corner high did linebacker do it all 614 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: playmate position. I think you also will eventually see him 615 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: utilize more as a pass rusher during his all Pro season. 616 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: He was coming off the edge and doing a bunch 617 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: of creative things. Stayers will put him in a situation 618 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: where he plays to his strength, and his strength are 619 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: big around the football and creating cabs. All right, So 620 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: what happens this weekend? Give us your prediction? Well, I mean, 621 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: I think this is really like a month's win game 622 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, so I think they gotta be at 623 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: the best. It's gonna be tough on the road. I 624 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: think a lot of it depends on Dak Prescott's ability 625 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: to come out and see if the Cowboys can play 626 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: from in front. If the Cowboys even jump out to 627 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: a seven to ten point lead early and play downhill, 628 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: I expect him to win. But if they had any 629 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: issues stopping them early and they fall from behind, I 630 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: just don't think it plays in their favor because the 631 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: lack of pass rush could be an issue if they 632 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: can't dictate the terms. All right, we appreciate you joining us, Buck, 633 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna take our final break when we come back. 634 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: We got a few more things we're gonna break down 635 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: about about the Cowboys matchup, particularly the Cowboys offense versus 636 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Chargers defensive. When come right, back. This is Dallas Cowboys 637 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: dot Com Radio. 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I want to take 681 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: talk to you guys a little bit about the strategy. 682 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: We were talking about what the Cowboys do with the 683 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: loss of DeMarcus Lawrence. I think one of the interesting 684 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: things that Bucky brought up was we did see this 685 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: during training camp when DeMarcus was out. We saw them 686 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: using the linebackers quite a bit. It makes me wonder, 687 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: is this team now without a DeMarcus Lawrence, are they 688 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: better suited to be a three four type defense? Now 689 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: they're going to be a Nickel a ton, but having 690 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: three down linement as opposed to four and standing up 691 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: those outside guys, let's say Randy standing up. They say 692 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: that Parsons is standing up on the outside allows you 693 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: do some things with Brent Urban now as a defensive 694 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: end in a three four with a three man front. 695 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: So do you think that that may be what we 696 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: tend to see a little bit more now without Gregory. Yeah, 697 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, one option, and you know's maybe 698 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: I got to look at who who's on their practice squad, 699 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: but they could, you know, maybe elevate a defensive tackle 700 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: from the practice squad and move a guy over Hamilton. 701 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: Is he on it? I mean he is, right, Okay, 702 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: that's who I was thinking. But then I thought, well, 703 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: maybe he wasn't on. I mean, it's hard to keep 704 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: up with who's on that's practice squad these days. But yeah, 705 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: I mean that might be an option there because he's 706 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: got some experience, he's got some beef, and you can 707 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: maybe slide a guy to the outside. I just worry, 708 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: and I was. I've been saying since the night they 709 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: drafted him that Mica needs to have a pass rushing 710 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: role to maximize the value of the pick. But I 711 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: don't want him doing that exclusively. I mean, if he's 712 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: up the field every play, either getting to the quarterback 713 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: or not being part of the play, I think you're 714 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: losing some of what he brings in the sense of 715 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: sideline to sideline playmaking ability. We've seen that he's got 716 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: a nose for the football. He's not making interceptions of 717 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: forcing fumbles or getting tackles if he's doing that as 718 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: often at least, But what we did see during camp 719 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: is when they did have a lot moils onbackers on 720 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: the field, they were still moving him around like some 721 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: place and that's some place on that side. So that's yeah, 722 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I just wouldn't want to just throw 723 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: him over there and have him do that exclusively. I 724 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: think that you don't want to turn him into defensive 725 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: in no right, Yeah, you still want to let him 726 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: do different things. I mean, I said that on the 727 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: radio this morning. It's unfair to be like, you know, 728 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: week two of your rookie season, we need you doing 729 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: all of this. But yeah, the NFL is not fair. 730 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: So we did have a couple other injury things we 731 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: needed to catch up on. Donovan Wilson also misspractice yesterday 732 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: with a groin injury. What do we stand with his status? 733 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: Reaggravated it. That's a classic case of we'll see how 734 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: he goes. You know, we'll keep an eye on the 735 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: Thursday Friday injury report. But reaggravating a groins not good. 736 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't gives me a feeling like maybe not this week. 737 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: And when you when you think about the safeties that 738 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: were up last week and the ones that will be down. 739 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Darren Thompson was on the practice squad but 740 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: they elevated him. They could do it again, but he 741 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 1: got hurt, so he's probably not coming back. I would 742 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, you could go mquamu. But 743 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: the thing about it is is that you get fifty 744 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: three on the roster, you can get it to fifty 745 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: five if you move to practice squad guys up. But 746 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean mcquamo could could take that spot 747 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: because he's already on the team. Molly Cooker will be elevated, 748 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: that's what we're hearing, but maybe for Wilson. So it's 749 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see how it 750 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: all kind of shakes out. I'm not as worried about it, 751 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: only because I feel like the top four or five 752 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: safeties are all the same. If you pulled anyone to 753 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: say who are your ranked the safeties, you get all 754 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: kinds of order. So I'm not saying Donald Wilson's not 755 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: a good player. I mean, and I hope, I hope 756 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: he plays, but I don't think it's a huge difference. 757 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: And if you had to play more Jron Curse or 758 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: you played because he which he got banged up a 759 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: little bit yesterday from what we saw, but I think 760 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: he'll He wasn't on the president on the practice report, 761 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: So I just I just wonder again, I've talked about 762 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: it a lot. Is Demante Casey and Malie Cooker are 763 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: very similar players? Donovan Wilson is a scud missile, like 764 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: he'll go down there and get in the trash and 765 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: he's a hard tackler. Do they have that guy or well, 766 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: they have bodies. It's just is it Malie Cooker, is 767 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: it j Ron Curse? Is it? I doubt it's Israel Mukuamu. 768 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: But he's there too, right, That's exactly the question is 769 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: who plays Donovan Wilson's role, Like, I don't know if 770 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: they who's the other person? I mean, jay Ron Curse 771 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: has the body where you'd think he should be able 772 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: to get down there and play a little closer to 773 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot of scrimmage, but I don't know if that's 774 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: his game. Well, I'll say this, I mean no disrespect 775 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: to the guys that are playing for the Chargers. But 776 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was the third receiver, I guess you want 777 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: to say that, and the third charger. He's a guy 778 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: that that was the Cowboys cut like three years ago, right, 779 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: Jalen guyton Yep. I mean he can run. He certainly 780 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean and and and what 781 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: a great job for him, you know, to to kind 782 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: of keep his career going. I really thought, I really 783 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: thought he was going to make the practice squad. I mean, 784 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: when you get an eighty yard touchdown in the last 785 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 1: preseason game usually lands to a spot on the practice squad. 786 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: Jesse Holly as that point, he had five hundred yards 787 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: last year. G Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's a 788 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: good story. It's a great story. I'm scared about my 789 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: mentions if he makes a big play in this game, 790 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: because everybody knows where he started. Yeah, and who played 791 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: in front of him, I mean, who did they keep 792 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: for him? I mean I'm trying to think the guys 793 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: that are here right now. Yeah, I mean, Noah Brown, 794 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know that kind of stuff. All Right, 795 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: we'll appreciate you guys, join us we'll be back on tomorrow. 796 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap up the weekend you guys. Let you 797 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: guys know, huh back, I just wanted to say a 798 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: name other than in the show on Noah Brown, great 799 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: say Dek Prescott, the diaper as werena say see here, Yeah, 800 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: Friday will be in a better mood Friday exactly. This 801 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: was a This was a downer show, and I'm sorry 802 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: to uplift you guys. Started he was like some news, 803 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: it ain't great. Well, you know, if Derek had tried 804 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: to spend it as great news, I would have made 805 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: fun of him. So I wasn't gonna you could have 806 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: spen this. I mean, what's the episode show twenty two. 807 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: We couldn't even do that. I was so I just 808 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: I've ever said yesterday when I heard this news, I've 809 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: been kind of on a downer, but you know, it 810 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: is what it is. It is. Well, we'll be back tomorrow. 811 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: We'll wrap up the week for you guys. Let you 812 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: guys know. We thing's gonna happen on Sunday till then. 813 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: For Nick Eatman, Dave Helman, I am Derek Eagelston. 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