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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's going on? Bet Simon's Temple car? Here we go?

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Speaker 2: Sh what's something? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: How we doing?

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Speaker 2: Who's here for the Pittsburgh Stealer? Who's gonna win the

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Speaker 2: game tomorrow? Here we go, Stealers? Here we go, Here

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Speaker 2: we go, Stealers, Here we go. West Schuler and Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: Wes mculer and Matt o' williamson with you here at

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Speaker 2: the Temple Fitzsimon's bar. You haven't headset issues you okay,

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Speaker 2: a little bit? Okay, we're figuring this out. We're doing

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Speaker 2: it live. We're on location here, the people are taking

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Speaker 2: care of us, and we have got a full day

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Speaker 2: planned today. Myself and Matt will be here for the

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Speaker 2: next few hours. We've got the DVE Morning Show coming

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Speaker 2: up with a special Saturday broadcast after us. Matt, this

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Speaker 2: has been incredible.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's been awesome. It really has. It's been overwhelming.

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Speaker 4: Every day is better than the next. I can't wait.

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Speaker 3: And tomorrow is gonna be crazy crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. Thursday it was wild, Yesterday it

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Speaker 2: was ramped up a notch again, and then today Saturday weekend,

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Speaker 2: it is pouring down rain.

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Speaker 4: Like even just uber and over here it was like

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Speaker 4: Crassy and their Steeter fans walking the streets everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere, And it's pouring down rain here today, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of finally like some proper Irish weather, if you yeah,

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Speaker 3: We've been short changed the waiting gett rain.

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Speaker 2: But it has not dampened anyone's spirits, that is for sure.

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Speaker 2: It is packed here. It is the I guess early

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Speaker 2: afternoon on a Saturday. Is Matt and I get going

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Speaker 2: here today now local uh doubling time, and we are

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Speaker 2: just a little under twenty four hours away from kickoff.

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Speaker 2: This place is ready black and gold to the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: The pines are porn. The food looks delicious. Some smells

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Speaker 2: really really good. I think that soup over there that

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Speaker 2: at some point. But Matt, it is a Saturday afternoon here.

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Speaker 2: We are ready to rock and roll. We're gonna do

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Speaker 2: some of the typical stuff that we would do on

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Speaker 2: a Friday show, kind of get ready for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Is this is our last show before of course, Steelers

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Speaker 2: and Vikings two thirty local time here tomorrow nine to

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Speaker 2: thirty back on the East coast, back in Pennsylvania time. Matt,

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Speaker 2: I want to get right into it. These people want

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Speaker 2: to talk some football. These people are ready. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: You and I like to do a little thing called

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Speaker 2: five Star Fridays that we typically do on Friday.

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Speaker 3: But right we're like a Friday.

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Speaker 2: We're going to treat this like a Friday show, kind

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Speaker 2: of the last show before kickoff, if you will, typically,

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it. Five Star Friday. It's a

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Speaker 2: simple concept. We look at each side of the football

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers and what the biggest matchups are against

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Speaker 2: their coming opponents. Which side of the ball you want

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Speaker 2: to start on you pick, doesn't matter, man. Well let's

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Speaker 2: start with the Steelers defense against the Vikings offense. Because

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Speaker 2: there are some stars and some superstars wearing purple for.

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Speaker 4: The Vikings, no doubt, and I feel like we have

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Speaker 4: to start with Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: I mean, frankly, he's one of the best receivers that's

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Speaker 4: He averages more receiving yards per game than anyone that's

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Speaker 4: so him and himself is a real challenge. And Jefferson

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Speaker 4: But Addison returns and that adds another layer to covering Jefferson.

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Speaker 4: It's going to make life harder on the Steelers for sure.

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Speaker 4: They picked up Adam Thielen to fill in the blanks

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Speaker 4: And then with Wentz back in the mix and a

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Speaker 3: So their weaponry is real impressive.

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Speaker 4: And I want to start with Jefferson, but the Mason

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Speaker 3: He's not much a receiver. He's not a well rounded guy.

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Speaker 4: But their skill position players right now are about his

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Speaker 2: As a complete group that you can hope for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's the wrong time to

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Speaker 4: So I'm curious what their strategies will be. Are they

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Speaker 4: not a Steeler fixture at all, to try to take

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Speaker 4: I would assume that you play a lot more man coverage.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Mike Tomlins said this, we haven't seen a

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Speaker 3: Well, this is the week you see it.

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Speaker 2: I would think I would absolutely, especially if Joey Porter

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Speaker 2: because I mean him and Jamar Chase. And it's ironic

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Speaker 2: They certainly have. But those two, like is it? Is it?

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Speaker 4: And both have had to overcome some quarterback stuff and

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Speaker 4: And unlike the Chase situation, Jefferson's gone through a lot

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about the Vikings offensive line. They're getting

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a really interesting group because for the last

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Speaker 3: They've been really good at the tackle spots.

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Speaker 3: The only team would even employ him because he was horrendous.

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Speaker 4: So that really derailed them too. So in a way,

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Speaker 4: they've been really weak on the interior of the O

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Speaker 4: they go get two dudes from the Colts. They get

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Speaker 3: And he's been phenomenal. He's not going to play in this.

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Speaker 4: That's like the only good news I've had since we

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Speaker 4: O line minus Jackson looks better than ever. But that

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Speaker 3: So that's important to me, you know.

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Speaker 4: But this is a challenge because I mean O'Connell is

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean that's a rare That's a rare tier

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Speaker 2: Oh, it absolutely is. It absolutely is plenty more that

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Speaker 2: I want to dig into you with as it relates

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit more about Mason in the

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Speaker 2: run game. Yeah, is this the week? I do think

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Speaker 2: I've been encouraged. They're still not where they need to

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Cam Hayward there, rounding into form. I think

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Speaker 2: Is this the real test though, this week with a

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Speaker 4: I mean Week one had such a different test because

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Speaker 4: who's taking the ball to. I mean, that could be

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Speaker 4: a little more aggressive keying on Mason as opposed to

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Speaker 4: he might just keep it and.

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Speaker 3: Run around me. You know.

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Speaker 4: Now week two this sounds crazy. I think the run

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Speaker 4: many splash plays. I mean they had eight carries or so,

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Speaker 2: They sure do, they sure do. That is certainly something

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Speaker 2: Back high atop the rooftop here at Fitzsimon's Temple Bar

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Speaker 3: I've been doing it for twenty some years and this

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Speaker 2: This is unbelievable. I'll probably be saying the same thing

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Speaker 2: All right, So who's going to the game on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: been over his head. I mean, the game has looked

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Speaker 4: too big for him in ninety percent of his snaps

438
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Speaker 4: and that's not uncommon. That doesn't mean he's terrible or

439
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Speaker 4: anything like that.

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Speaker 2: First and second started life.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was drafted the year before, but didn't

442
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Speaker 4: play at all. He sat in the quarterback meeting rooms,

443
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Speaker 4: but that's not the same, and he looked very overwhelmed

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Speaker 4: with just the procedural stuff, getting them in and out

445
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Speaker 4: of the huddle, recognizing blitzes, checking off, getting into the

446
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Speaker 4: right plays, let alone being comfortable in the pocket and

447
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Speaker 4: feeling the rush and doing the football stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I would rather play against McCarthy. But Wentz is

449
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Speaker 3: a really tough evow right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, gone are the days of him almost winning

451
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Speaker 4: the MVP favor of the Eagles. I mean, because he's

452
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Speaker 4: been This is unprecedented NFL history, this is he is now. Yes,

453
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 4: last week started six times. It started for six different

454
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Speaker 4: teams in six different years, which isn't really a compliment

455
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Speaker 4: because if they loved you, they keep you around. But

456
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Speaker 4: it is enough of a compliment that the next team says,

457
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Speaker 4: will take a chance and you could be our backup.

458
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Speaker 4: And last week against the Bengals, he made two or

459
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Speaker 4: three really nice drugs and he certainly can still let

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Speaker 4: the ball go. He's a second pick in the draft.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's ability there. But frankly, their defense won

462
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Speaker 4: that game so single handedly that every drop back Wentz

463
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Speaker 4: could have taken the ball and spiked it right in

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Speaker 4: the ground and they still would have won. I mean

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Speaker 4: they truly would have. I mean it was that bad

466
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Speaker 4: by the Bengals, who are a disaster right now. So

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Speaker 4: Wentz is a tough evow. You have to think that

468
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Speaker 4: he's way ahead of McCarthy in terms.

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Speaker 2: Of just processing.

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Speaker 3: All the processing and the in and out of the

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Speaker 3: huddle stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is played in a lot of different offense.

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Speaker 4: It's played a lot of different offenses to some degree

474
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Speaker 4: of success. Some it's hard to even evaluate him because

475
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Speaker 4: like some of those starts are Week eighteen with the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs when my homes is shortened or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But he isn't real mobile.

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Speaker 4: I would think you he won't elude the Steeler rush

479
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Speaker 4: like some of these other guys, including May and even Darnold.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's the least.

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Speaker 4: Mobile guy they're faced so far, let alone fields. What

482
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Speaker 4: scares me a little the most actually is O'Connell. I

483
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Speaker 4: think you're really when we get the other side of

484
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Speaker 4: the ball too, you're really doing battle against these two

485
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Speaker 4: play callers as much as you are. They're players against

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Speaker 4: this specific team because they're both so well coached on

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Speaker 4: each side of the ball. And if you watch the

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Speaker 4: McCarthy tape, O'Connell was basically newter. He's he's calling players

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Speaker 4: with one hand behind his bash, you know, like there's

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Speaker 4: so many.

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Speaker 2: One quarterback who's only playing in a second NFL.

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Speaker 3: Game, Right, he can't handle everything I'm given.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't need an Irish breakfast match. He just needs

494
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Speaker 2: like egg bacon.

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Speaker 4: Right, that's all he can handle. You know, he's he's

496
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Speaker 4: on drinking, you know, a Guinness at this time of

497
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Speaker 4: the day. Yeah, quiet, he's not old enough for that,

498
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Speaker 4: you know, so Wentz at least I think opens all

499
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Speaker 4: the chapters. Although he's still new to the team too.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't there all through camp. He was a late addition.

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Speaker 4: So again he's a tough evow. But I just think

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Speaker 4: his experience makes it tougher to.

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Speaker 3: Play against the Vikings. You know, I was called the nest.

504
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Speaker 4: That that nest is tremendous around him, led by Justin Jefferson,

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Speaker 4: And I just think O'Connell's going, who, I can kind

506
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Speaker 4: of do my stuff now, you.

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Speaker 2: Can do a little bit more. Actually that I don't

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Speaker 2: have the guy who's had less than five NFL starts

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Speaker 2: in his.

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Speaker 3: Career one thousand percent.

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Speaker 4: And if Wentz plays well against the Steelers and then

512
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Speaker 4: they host the Browns just here in London, I mean,

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Speaker 4: kind of across situation, real clothes for them. I wonder

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Speaker 4: if they rush McCarthy back or not. You know, like

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Speaker 4: it might be like this guy's given us more to

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Speaker 4: go off of just because I can do more.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't need it. This offense doesn't need

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Speaker 3: a ton from their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't. As you mentioned, they've got a great nest. Yeah,

520
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: they've got perhaps the best collection of skilled players from

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Speaker 2: top to bottom in the NFL trong, certainly in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: And they are they are well coached. Do They won

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Speaker 2: fourteen games last year? That was not an accident. They're

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Speaker 2: off to a strong start again this year as well too.

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Speaker 2: That to me is kind of the biggest you know,

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Speaker 2: every every game you play has the kind of cliched

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Speaker 2: X factor, right, Yeah, Yeah, of which way does this go?

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Speaker 2: There's some unknown there haven't seen much of it. Like,

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Speaker 2: is Carson Wentz the easy X factor for tomorrow? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I would say so on this side of the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I have some Steeler ones, you know, for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would imagine amazing.

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Speaker 2: Again, with everybody else, you kind of know what you're getting.

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Speaker 4: You kind of know what you're getting. I'm kind of

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Speaker 4: also looking at Porter's availability could be an X factor.

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Speaker 4: I mean I would I would think the Steelers probably

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Speaker 4: know the answer if he's playing or not, and have

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Speaker 4: probably practiced and prepared accordingly. There's no reason to tell

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Speaker 4: O'Connell that yet, but I would think they have two

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Speaker 4: different setups with or without Porter. I'm also really interested

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Speaker 4: in what Peppers does now in his second real game

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Speaker 4: with the team. The first game he didn't play at all.

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Speaker 4: This past game he played a lot. I think he's

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Speaker 4: really quickly going past Chuck Clark and may even go

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Speaker 4: past Thornhill. That you might see a lot of Peppers

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Speaker 4: and Elliott, which they're both strong safety types, but they're

547
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Speaker 4: better players than what the Steelers have been playing at safety,

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Speaker 4: and I like Thornhill Clark I could do without, to

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Speaker 4: be honest with you, I just doesn't run that well now.

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Speaker 4: So I think Pepper's usage is somewhat of an X

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Speaker 4: factor too. D line rotation, but yeah, I would say

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Speaker 4: Wentz is definitely the biggest X factor on that side

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Speaker 4: of ball.

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Speaker 2: Do you see any matchups from a Steelers defensive perspective

555
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Speaker 2: where you kind of circle it, highlight it, and say,

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Speaker 2: this guy should be able to feast. This guy should

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Speaker 2: be Hayward for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with the Jackson injury a left guard, I would

559
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Speaker 4: think Hayward is going to cause a lot of problems.

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Speaker 4: I wonder how much blitz they will employ. I hope

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Speaker 4: a lot. I mean I would like to say, see

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Speaker 4: more man coverage, more blitz. The whole offseason has been

563
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Speaker 4: primed for. We got better corners. Now we can blitz more.

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Speaker 4: We can create more sacks and get more and more

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Speaker 4: than create more sacks, create more one on one matchups.

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Speaker 4: If I'm blitzing heavier, it's harder to double watch. Sure

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Speaker 4: O'Neill's will really good right tackle, but if I have

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Speaker 4: to leave them on what ten plays more than I

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Speaker 4: would have due to blitz, you might get home plack

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Speaker 4: for sure, right right, and you're gonna make Wentz process quickly.

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Speaker 4: You know he's not gonna buy a lot of time.

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Speaker 4: So I would expect a much more aggressive defensive game

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Speaker 4: plan than we have seen. It rubs me the wrong

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Speaker 4: way a little bit that they're so static and single high.

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Speaker 4: They play a lot of cover on, a lot of

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Speaker 4: Cover three, and they have ramped up blitz a lot

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Speaker 4: this year, but they haven't followed it up with a

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Speaker 4: lot of like pressman coverage. You know, they're doing it

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Speaker 4: with off coverage and people are finding the quick hitters

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Speaker 4: in the middle of the field has been exposed a

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Speaker 4: little bit too. So I would say, you know, throw

582
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Speaker 4: caution in the wind a little bit here, you know,

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Speaker 4: And if it means leaving Jefferson one on one with

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Speaker 4: Ramsey once in a while, it might sting you.

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Speaker 3: But you know, such as life, I tell it. League works, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, certainly, and maybe maybe you know, you catch Carson

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Speaker 2: Wentz getting a little too aggressive. Maybe Jalen Ramsey's the

588
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Speaker 2: one who makes a play. We've seen him do that

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Speaker 2: a couple times already this season.

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Speaker 3: And went will turn the ball over. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: not a caretaker type. Yes, he's been a risky guy

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Speaker 3: over his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no doubt correct correct. Will we come back

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Speaker 2: here in a couple of minutes, We're going to spin

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Speaker 2: the block to the other side of the football. But

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Speaker 2: I got to learn something from all these people out here. First,

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Speaker 2: all right, who out here, traveled the furthest to get

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Speaker 2: here to Dublin, Ireland. Who's Who's where'd you come from? Texas?

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Speaker 2: Can anybody beat Texas? Anybody come any further than Texas?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to give it nod to Texas on

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Speaker 4: that one again.

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Speaker 3: Florida.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a couple. Florida's couple, Texas, New Jersey

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Speaker 2: now and Springstea. I think it's Texas. It's got to

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Speaker 2: be Texas. Can anybody beat Texas? South Carolina?

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Speaker 3: That's good?

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Speaker 2: Jem, Texas, Texas is a jam going once, going twice.

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Speaker 2: Hook em hook them Junior Jersey over there all the

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Speaker 2: way from Texas to Dublin, Ireland. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: Wes Yuler Matt Williamson will continue the game preview as

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Speaker 2: we roll along here, you are listening to a special

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Speaker 2: edition of The Drive live from Fitzsimon's Temple Bar in Dublin, Ireland.

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Speaker 2: This says Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Rolling along here at fitz Simon's Temple Bar in downtown

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Speaker 2: Dublin in the Temple Bar District ain't happening place here.

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Speaker 2: It's wet, it's rainy, it's proper Irish weather today. But

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Speaker 2: the people, their spirits are not damp in that. In fact,

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Speaker 2: this is probably we.

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Speaker 4: Got changed if we didn't get a little rain. Last

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Speaker 4: two days were just way too sunny and night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the sky was like painted the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: It was like high sixties and sunny. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: But this is what we're expecting. Hope you brought your

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Speaker 2: rank coats and are uh and are ready.

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Speaker 3: To rock and roll here tomor be similar, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's supposed to be quite as bad tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: but it is supposed to rain on and off. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well we'll see. Fortunately there is. That's maybe another thing

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Speaker 2: that I should have painted the picture about Croke Park.

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Speaker 2: It's not there's no dome, but there's like a massive

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Speaker 2: overhang above the sections because of how much rain get here.

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Speaker 2: That's a common thing across Ireland in the UK that

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Speaker 2: you'll see. You know, they're not dome stadiums, but they

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Speaker 2: have hyper extended roofs to kind of kind of cover

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Speaker 2: you from from the.

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Speaker 3: Majority, almost like the Cowboys stadium, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, exactly right, exactly right. If people have seen kind

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Speaker 2: of the layout of the new Buffalo Bills Stadium that's

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Speaker 2: going to open next year, and it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: similar thing.

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Speaker 3: For snow reasons, yeah them, but makes sense.

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Speaker 2: You know, to not completely shield you from the elements,

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Speaker 2: but certainly protect you from some particip some precipitation part

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Speaker 2: in me.

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Speaker 4: So, Matt, I am a little concern whether a different pitch.

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Speaker 4: You know, the pitch was not designed for a bunch

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Speaker 4: of three hundred pound monsters running up the middle of

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Speaker 4: the field as.

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Speaker 2: An X factor. Yeah, for tomorrow's game.

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Speaker 4: Curious, all these any international game, I pay attention to

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Speaker 4: the grass a little bit more the field surface.

654
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes sense. You know, they obviously rugby

655
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: and Gaelic football and soccer and all those things. There's

656
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: a lot of cutting, there's a lot of moving, there's

657
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, they're wearing cleats, all that

658
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: same stuff. But it's not three hundred plus pound guys

659
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: in a in a kind of singular location on the

660
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: field between the hash marks.

661
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: And with all the respect of those sports, which I'm

662
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: sure are wonderful, they're not no offense world class athlete.

663
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: I mean that the top one percent and the size

664
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: speed combination is unmatched in the NFL. That's you know,

665
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. You know, let alone the big people

666
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: up the middle of the field.

667
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of Max starks is walking around

668
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: now in Ireland.

669
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: One one.

670
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: There's only one Max Starks, that's for sure. Matt. Let's

671
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: continue our five Star Friday conversation here and spin the

672
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: block Steelers offense against this Vikings defense. I mentioned Minnesota.

673
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: They've got some stars and superstars on that offense, household names.

674
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: The defense maybe not quite to that extent. That doesn't

675
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: mean that they're still not very talented. No, and it

676
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: sounds like Van Gaegele's not gonna play.

677
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: He's been rolled out.

678
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't think he's a superstar, but he was like

679
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: fifth and defensive Player of the Year voting last year

680
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 4: because he does everything well. And that's exactly what this

681
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: defense is looking for. They really want position with football.

682
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: They want highly versatile, smart, interchangeable, somewhat in a Belichickian manner,

683
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: you know, like Belichick wanted a lot of do your

684
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 4: job smart guys. I'm gonna ask a ton of you.

685
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 4: I can't have you out of position, physical, tough, So

686
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: we talked about let's start here and maybe we even

687
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: finished out to say one with this and then.

688
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: Come back or whatever.

689
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: But much like the offensive line, they rebuilt all their

690
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: big people on the defensive line. You know, they went

691
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 4: out and got three starters at guard center guard, really

692
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 4: aggressive move, hard to do, and they did the same

693
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: thing on defense. They got two new starters in Hargrave.

694
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Familiar name, yeah, formerly of this parish.

695
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: And Jonathan Allen, who's highly accomplished. Both these guys have

696
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: been around the block, and you know, they went out

697
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 4: and spent money on their biggest people, and the guys

698
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: behind them aren't household names, but they've played great in

699
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 4: a reserve role too, because they don't want Allen and

700
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: Hargrave playing every snap. It's kind of a Hayward situation.

701
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 4: We're gonna use them in the right times.

702
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: We're not going to overweark it at all those times.

703
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

704
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: Absolutely, So this defense, it's much different than the other

705
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: ones we've broken down in that I'm not looking at

706
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: this player or this player as much as Flores. I mean,

707
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: he is unlike any defensive coordinator in the league, and

708
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: he's frightening as could be.

709
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, you.

710
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Know he certainly is. Yeah, and that might be Matt

711
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: in a bigger picture sense, could you argue that the

712
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: biggest matchup for the Steelers offense is Aaron Rodgers and

713
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: what he's going to be able to do and diagnose

714
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: with the line of scrimmage against that Brian Flores manipulation.

715
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: Will Yeah, And so this will sound negative towards the Steelers,

716
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: but all you folks that are going to the game tomorrow,

717
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: I urge you to just to watch the defensive movement

718
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: when the Steelers are out there pre snap and especially

719
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: at the snap versus what Minnesota's doing pre snap and

720
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: at the snap. They do Paula Malou things like when

721
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: Troy would come down to the to the line of

722
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: scrimmage and then just take off into the third level

723
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 4: as a cover two player. Like you'll see that stuff

724
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: all the time. They'll have corners asked to do safety stuff.

725
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: They'll have linebackers asked to do corner stuff. Slot players

726
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: will blitz. I mean, they play a ton of zone,

727
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: but it's not like everyone just drops to their spot

728
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 4: and you know where they're gonna be. So yes, it's zone,

729
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: but it's a lot of zone that turns in demand.

730
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 4: It's a lot of unpredictability. I joke the other day

731
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: that it feels like Flores just takes a dice and

732
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 4: just rolls it into the thing and says, Okay, I'm

733
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 4: gonna call that because there's not a tendencies like most guys.

734
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 4: And now you can sting it because some stuff they

735
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: do is not technically sound or orthodox. It's just making

736
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 4: people double think. Tap the ball in the pocket a

737
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: little more. I thought he was gonna be there, and

738
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 4: he's not, and before you know it, Blitz is coming heavy.

739
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: Since Floras took over, they're the blitz heaviest defense in

740
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: the entire league. They're number one. And you would think

741
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: that that would be a lot of man but it's not.

742
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: I mean, everything's just against the rules, to be honest

743
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: with you. So I think Rogers, who is an absolute

744
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: microprocessor in the product pocket, one.

745
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: Of the best ever to do it.

746
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: I think he can handle that stuff better than anyone mentally,

747
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: but he may end he still doesn't extend plays well though.

748
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's not nearly.

749
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: I mean he's forty one years older.

750
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 3: Right, r Right, he used to be right right right.

751
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: I mean he he moves better than I thought he

752
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: would at this stage, but he's still not Josh Allen

753
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: or Mahomes or Lamar or those type of guys where

754
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: if there's a if there's if things go wrong, he's

755
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 4: not going to avoid or just shrug someone off like

756
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 4: Ben or you know, he's not going to extend the

757
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 4: play when disaster happens, because disaster is going to happen

758
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 4: a few times in Escape, but always does Flores. And

759
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 4: what we're also worries me is rogers could be one

760
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 4: thousand percent right boom. I know exactly what they're doing.

761
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: I am the microprocessor. But if one of the other

762
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: ten isn't, he's going to be doing this and saying

763
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: grabbing him by the face mask type of thing like that.

764
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 4: You're supposed to cut this on Thursday, right right, right right,

765
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: So he can be perfect, but some young guy isn't.

766
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

767
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 4: The floor is really causes a lot of problems. It's

768
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: not so much that my checkers are better than yours.

769
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 4: It's just I'm gonna get guys in spots to make

770
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 4: plays and make you hold the ball more than.

771
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: You want and if you make one mistake, if one

772
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: of your eleven is not on his game, we're gonna

773
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: blow the whole thing up.

774
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: Chances are totally especially with a quarterback that's not going

775
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: to expend, extend things for four seconds or whatever.

776
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: You right, right, doesn't have the mobility or the you know,

777
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 2: the kind of body frame at this at this point

778
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: in his career. I gotta think, then, Matt right, then

779
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: the next kind of you know logic in that to

780
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: me is and we know this is going to be

781
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: important for the Steelers offense every week, but especially this week,

782
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: is the best way in the gate that by running

783
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: the football.

784
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: Thousand per I mean, Bengals couldn't do it at all.

785
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: Bengals couldn't do it at all. No, I think Chase

786
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: Brown had three yards on ten carries.

787
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: Something miser I like, it's.

788
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: Just absolutely absolutely dreadful. To me, the best way to

789
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: keep them honest, to limit the creativity that they have

790
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: on that defense is just by running the football right

791
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 2: at him thousand. But we haven't seen that from the

792
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: Steelers yet this year, and we know Jalen Warren is

793
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: dealing with a n E issue now and is listed

794
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: as questionable for tomorrow.

795
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: Which would be a huge deal and it's a massive loss.

796
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: Right.

797
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the biggest X factor from a Steelers standpoint

798
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: is Jalen Warren's health.

799
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: Originally I just thought, you know, they're keeping him out

800
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 4: of practice yor being prohibitive that way. But it sounded

801
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: like talking to Chris Halleck and who's there. It's like, oh, no,

802
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: there's something really going on here, you know. I mean,

803
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 4: this is not just keeping him in bubble wrap situation.

804
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: Now he might be fine, who knows, but this backfield

805
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: is not equipped to not handle Warren, who's a vastly

806
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: underrated player in all aspects. He's been really featured to

807
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: this point. Gainwell can't be featured. I mean, he's really

808
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 4: a five to six type of situational situational guy. And

809
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 4: are you ready to go to sermon or Johnson? Now

810
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: times have happened many times in the NFL, someone like

811
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: a Caleb.

812
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: Johnson's how it starts. For that's how you start.

813
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: You know, like, Hey, I know you screwed up and

814
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 4: you messed up a kickoff and your confidence down, but

815
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: we need you and we're gonna give you the ball.

816
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: That's why we drafted you, we loved you coming out

817
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: of Iowa. Show us what you can do, and maybe

818
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: it's his breakout party. Who knows, but.

819
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 3: Stranger that's what I mean. That's not the craziest story.

820
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: Guy going from the low point like he had in

821
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: the home opener against the Seahawks to suddenly two weeks

822
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: later being the hero.

823
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 4: Right that would not you didn't get less talented in

824
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: the last two weeks or since the draft.

825
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you're dealing with some mental struggles, things

826
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: aren't going the way that you plan. You've got a

827
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: much lesser role on the team. You're kind of scapegoaded

828
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 2: in one of the games. Sometimes I think even getting

829
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: thrown right into the fire is the best way to

830
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: get over that. Like you've got no other option than

831
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: to forget about that, yeah, and focus on the task

832
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: at hand.

833
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: And a thousand percent, And especially with this guy, because

834
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: I feel for him a little bit, because if you

835
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: watch Iowa, he's.

836
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: A volume back. You know, give me twenty, give me somebody.

837
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: Some nausey, yeah, similarities in that regard gets better.

838
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: As the game goes on, really gets a feel for

839
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: the defense, starts to set up his blocks and tacklers

840
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: better as the game goes on, doesn't lose burst or

841
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: long speed goes on. And in the preseason you can't

842
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 4: do that with the guy, sure and behind its.

843
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: Number three to zero one gonna beat him up.

844
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 4: You're just gonna beat him up, and you really haven't

845
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 4: been able to do what you drafted him to do. Now,

846
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: I'd much rather have Warren and not experiment with that

847
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: right now. But someday that day's coming, you know, absolutely,

848
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 4: and he'll either sink or swim, you know, and you

849
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: hope he swims.

850
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: You sure do. And like I said, there there is

851
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: sometimes I think a weird just I don't know if

852
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: motivational moment is the right way to put it. But

853
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: when you are thrown into the deep end, yeah, you

854
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: have to sink or swim.

855
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

856
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: And if Jalen Warren isn't able to go on Sunday,

857
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: I think that would be about as close as that

858
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: as you could get. For Caleb Johnson shortly in the

859
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: season for an environment coming off of again we can two,

860
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: you're kind of the scapegoat week three, you don't even play. Yeah,

861
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: I mean that is a ultimate sinker swim type situation.

862
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 2: And sometimes guys respawn really well in those Yeah, yeah, interesting.

863
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: I mean, they did all the background and they'd love

864
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 4: his character and all those things. And you know, they

865
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't have draft them where they did if they had

866
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: those concerns. But you just never have it, You've never

867
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 4: seen it. Sure, sure, you'd prefer not to go down

868
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: that road.

869
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: I did want to pick your brain just a little

870
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Speaker 2: bit more. You mentioned the overhaul of the Vikings defensive

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Speaker 2: line interior, that offensive line from Minnesota, and of course

872
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Speaker 2: the defensive line as well too. How does that match

873
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Speaker 2: up against the Steelers offensive line this week? I, again,

874
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: I do think that there has been some there to

875
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Speaker 2: be concerned or to be encouraged by. With the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: it has not been the progression that we've hoped for

877
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Speaker 2: through three weeks, but they have also faced some very

878
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Speaker 2: talented defensive fronts, including Seattle, who might be the best

879
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Speaker 2: in the NFL in that regard by the time the

880
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Speaker 2: season ends.

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Speaker 4: The three they've faced are way better than most people think,

882
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Speaker 4: so I think that's kind of promising too. I think

883
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Speaker 4: Seattle's as exceptional. As you mentioned, the Patriots were leading

884
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 4: the league in sacks when they played them, and Barmore

885
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 4: and Williams are really good.

886
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Speaker 3: One of the more underrated, and the Jets have two.

887
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: Really good edge rushers and one of the absolute best

888
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 4: defensive tackles in the league in Quinn Williams. So, I mean,

889
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: these fronts they faced are not a joke, even though

890
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 4: they don't have Bosa, Garrett Parsonalusehold, Yeah, yeah, yeah. You

891
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: know pro bowlers everywhere just looking at it, man on man,

892
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Speaker 4: they're not that scary. I mean, it's not boy. This

893
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 4: dude is an unbelievable Hall of Fame special player, even

894
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Speaker 4: Hargraven Allen at this point.

895
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Speaker 2: It's not Miles Garrett.

896
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Speaker 3: Last year.

897
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Speaker 4: If this guy could wreck the game like Watt has

898
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Speaker 4: so many times in his career, I don't see that

899
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Speaker 4: from any of their individual players. But there's always a

900
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Speaker 4: butt with Flores too. I'm sure he's gonna overload. I'm

901
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Speaker 4: sure he's gonna attack Roderick Jones, and I'm sure that

902
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Speaker 4: he's gonna put him in conflict with overload blitzes to

903
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Speaker 4: his side. You know, just make him show that he's

904
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Speaker 4: NFL quality and that you know, in the first week

905
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Speaker 4: he wasn't. Last two weeks, he's played pretty well, but

906
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Speaker 4: I would be attacking that left tackle spot like crazy.

907
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Speaker 4: And I'm sure Flora as well too. And don't forget,

908
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Speaker 4: I don't know if this works. The Steelers favor with

909
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Speaker 4: Flora is his favor. He was a linebacker coach here

910
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Speaker 4: a couple of years.

911
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: He sure was, you know what I mean, not that

912
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Speaker 2: long ago, right right right.

913
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Speaker 4: I would think that works to Tomlin's favor more than

914
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Speaker 4: Flores because so many pieces of change.

915
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Speaker 3: Rogers wasn't here, ifal Ton who wasn't.

916
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Speaker 4: Here, you know, I would think Tomlin knows how Flores thinks.

917
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Speaker 3: But we'll see. I mean that's the next factor too,

918
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Speaker 3: you know, the coaches knowledge of one another.

919
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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. Two guys that are familiar with

920
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: each other have been on same staffs together, coached against

921
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Speaker 2: each other as head coaches and coordinators. You mentioned Troy

922
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Speaker 2: FALTONU there. That's the last guy that I wanted to

923
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Speaker 2: get some thoughts on you from. I think the tape

924
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: hasn't been great through three games, ok, great, but I

925
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Speaker 2: also think it's a lot of teachable, correctable things as

926
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Speaker 2: well too. It's technique.

927
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Speaker 3: Games is the key there.

928
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Speaker 2: Through three games is absolutely the key there. It's a

929
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Speaker 2: lot of hand placement and leverage stuff. It's a lot

930
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Speaker 2: of having your head in the right place and not

931
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Speaker 2: ducking down. I think we're all we're all still really

932
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Speaker 2: high on him, and maybe this is the that you

933
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Speaker 2: start to see that progression.

934
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think so.

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Speaker 4: I mean again, I'm sure they'll challenge both tackles because

936
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Speaker 4: of the lack of experience, but talent wise, I think Falton.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be a really, really good right tackle.

938
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Speaker 4: So it we shouldn't be discouraged that he hasn't excelled yet,

939
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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm with you on that. I certainly am.

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Speaker 2: So that's a little five Star Friday for you here

942
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Speaker 2: the first hour of the show, as we kind of

943
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Speaker 2: set the scene the matchups between the Steelers and the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty more to get to. Everybody who knows

945
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Speaker 2: Matt knows he does a fantastic stats packet compilation every

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Speaker 2: single week. We will get into some of those numbers

947
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Speaker 2: as we return. We're also expecting some guests here today

948
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Speaker 2: throughout the show. Brian Backo, the pittsburghostcazec Ca and join us.

949
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Speaker 2: We're hopeful to get Mike Persuda from the DVE Morning

950
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Speaker 2: Show on as well too. Of course, the DVE Morning

951
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Speaker 2: Show will be following us up here at Fitzsimon's Temple

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Speaker 2: they are ready to rock and roll, and we have

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Speaker 2: got plenty more to bring you west Uler Matt Williamson,

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