WEBVTT - Wrestling Secrets Revealed 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:07.840 M. What's up everybody? Welcome back to a brand new 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.719 episode of Wrestling with Freddie. And today's episode is story 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.680 Time with Uncle Frederick. And this is Wrestling with Freddie 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:21.000 now stuffing up for the min The host of Wrestling 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:27.560 with Freddie, Freddie Brice tune. Yeah. On today's episode, we're 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.520 gonna tell well, I don't know how many stories we're 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.600 gonna tell. There's always a bunch of side quests, but 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.040 I'm gonna try to focus on two stories, and one 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.319 of which was asking me on Twitter. So if any 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.599 of you guys know of anything going on when I 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.680 worked there that you have questions about, feel free to 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.520 hit me up on social media. That's real fpj R. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.960 On Twitter. That's the best way for me to answer 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:52.000 wrestling questions. I'm not on Instagram that much, so this question, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.760 I'm sorry, I don't remember your name, but I'm gonna 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.040 get good at that by season two maybe. But he 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.760 asked about the story of hayde Vanson. And for those 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.240 who there's some like hardcoes right now, they're like, no 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:07.039 freaking way. Yes I wrote this with a couple other people, 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.800 but yes I wrote this, and yes it died a 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.480 horrible death, So we're gonna get into that, and for 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.360 those of you who don't know, it's just a funny story. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:16.520 And then the other story we're gonna tell it was 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.319 my worst day in the company. And I'm pretty sure 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.800 Vince did it to me just as as a practical 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.360 joke they call it a rib was just ribbing you. 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.720 But man, it sucked. And that was when SmackDown I 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.520 think was on. Maybe it was the c W or 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.440 the up N. It was a long time ago, and 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:38.319 they've changed names a lot more than w W wrestler's names. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:43.560 But they made me direct a segment for the Masked 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.720 Magician because he had a show on the same network 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.800 and they were trying to cross promote, and he was 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.680 going to use wrestlers as like the volunteers from the audience. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.880 Now we're gonna start with this story because for those 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.040 of you who don't know, I love magic. When I 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.440 was a little kid, I went to a magic shop 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:06.040 here in Los Angeles, California, and so like some of 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.760 the best magicians in the world were here, and it 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.799 was a place called the Magic Castle, and you could 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.760 go there and eat and they would perform for you. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.240 And these were like top top shelf magicians. And I 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:18.560 went to a magic shop and my mom said, you 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.520 can get one trick, any trick you want. And I 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.240 looked around at everything, and I didn't look at the 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.960 back of any of the boxes. I just looked around. 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:29.440 And I went back to my mom and I said, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.960 I don't want I don't want to get any of 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.160 these tricks. And she said why not, and I said, 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.280 because I don't want to know how they work. And 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:43.480 there's a scene from a movie with Christian Bale and 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:48.919 Hugh Jackman and they're like dueling magicians and Christian Bale, 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.640 I don't want to spoil it for you if you 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.799 haven't seen it, but he's in love with this with 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:57.920 this woman, and he's doing a magic trick and this 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.280 is like the eight hundreds in England, I believe. And 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.000 he's doing a bullet catch, which was a spectacular trick 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.120 because magicians had died doing it, and his wife or 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.280 his girlfriend doesn't want him to do it, and he says, no, 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.200 it's perfectly safe. She goes, show me how to do it. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.680 He's like, no, I can't. I can't show you how 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.120 to do it. She goes, well, then you can't. You 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.720 can't do it. You you have more responsibilities than just yourself. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.880 Now you have me, we're going to have a child. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.320 You have responsibilities that your father says, all right, if 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.600 I show you will you will you let me do it. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:30.000 She says okay. He does the bullet catch, and then 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.720 he reveals the trick that he pulls the bullet from 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:36.080 the gun before he ever gives her the pistol to fire, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.920 and so it's just watting. There is no bullet, and 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.160 he breaks it down. He basically says the gun is empty, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.440 there is no bullet, and she looks at him and 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.360 she it's almost instead of relief, it's disappointment. And then 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.720 she says, oh, well, when you know how it's done, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.880 it's not that special, is it. And you can see 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.200 his heart break the way a woman should have in 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.680 his heart, and he says, well, no, you know, it's 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.080 still it's still pretty dangerous. You know, people can die 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.440 doing this, and she just like shrugs it off, like yeah, okay, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:13.280 whatever whatever, And that to me was magic, right. I 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.000 never wanted to know how it was done. It was 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.240 why I couldn't watch wrestling for about eight months when 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:23.080 I left the company, because I knew. I knew all 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.400 the tricks and some of the magic had had faded away, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.480 And it wasn't until my daughter got real into it 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:32.280 that I came back sort of full circle. So I'm 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.920 the perfect guy to direct a segment for a character 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:40.760 whose entire gimmick is destroying magician's careers and exposing all 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.400 their secrets and all their trade secrets and and making 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:47.520 magic no longer magic. Like that guy that did that 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.000 Scuzzy John was his name, John Moffatt Or no, that's 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.960 the character from Silence of the Lambs, the New York 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.080 journalist that got slapped by by Dr De David Schultz. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.520 And there was a wrestler who like gave up the 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.960 secrets in order to help this story get made. Like 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:05.920 screw that guy, and screw the mass magician. His name 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.200 was like Valve Valentine or something and so and this 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.440 may sound hardcore, like wow, Freddie is really getting on 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.080 a soapbox for magicians, but and I know it is, 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.080 it's ridiculous, but check this out. Man, Like these men 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.760 and these women, their entire livelihood is on making you 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.120 guess right, how do you do it? How do you 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.440 do it? So all these YouTube videos, all these Instagram 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.560 videos and Valve Valentine who started it with his mass 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.520 magician crap, like that's that's hurting magicians. It's not getting 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.200 people more excited about magic, not anymore so than they'd 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.240 be if they saw a magician and wondered how they 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.400 could do it. No, it's just people putting a spotlight 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.039 on themselves because they don't have what it takes. They're 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:48.320 not the three dimensional magician. They may just be good 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.320 at slide a hand, or they may just be good 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.160 on the microphone, or maybe they're just funny, but none 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.080 of the other skills are up to part. And they're 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.560 mad about that, and they're trying to get their own 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.760 shine and make money in a new way. But it's 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.520 just destroyed the magic business. So now I get to 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:09.960 work with this guy, So Vince gives me Maria and 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.120 Maria Cannellis that is, and uh Biscuits and Gravy what 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:19.480 were their names? Festus became Luke Gallows and uh Gordie's kid. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.760 I don't remember, but anyway, they their theme music wing 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:27.600 Biscuits and Grave and Festus was this character played by Luke. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.680 You guys know him. Now it's Luke Gallows. If you 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.159 watched a w or or the indie scenes, now, shout 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.080 out to my buddy Angelo who gave him that name. 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:42.160 And uh, his character doesn't speak. He was not mute. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.839 He was just kind of dumb, right and just sort 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.080 of like lobotomized. And then when the bell would ring, 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.719 this is his gimmick. I'm not saying this was great, 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.640 but it made me laugh at least when the wrestling 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.799 bell would ring, he would like run, He just beat 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.000 the crap out of whoever was in front of him, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.039 and if the bell ring again, he would go back 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.919 into his docile, lobotomized state, which doesn't give a long 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.200 career for a character like that, because the moment someone goes, well, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:10.800 maybe if I just ring the bell again in the 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:12.680 middle of the match and he'll stop, and then I 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:14.960 can just pin it, which happened, and then the characters 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:28.200 magic kind of died right them as the tag team 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.640 he Maria Canellis, and the story is supposed to be 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.880 that Festus has a crush on Maria. I'm like trying 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.360 to prevent a migraine wall explaining this this storyline to you, guys, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:42.040 that's how painful this memory is, and uh, they're gonna 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.640 do this magic thing together, the mass magician is. It's 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.800 going to be like a date kind of. So I 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:53.320 wake up that morning and I feel horrible. I grabbed thermometer. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:59.560 Take my temperature one degrees sick as a dog. There 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.400 is no there are no sick days at the w 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.560 w E. You go, You go to work unless you're dead, 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.360 and even then they fire you. He's fired. He didn't 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.240 show up. Dude, he's dead. Well, he won't care, so 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.320 he wouldn't do that. So I feel like crap. I 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.320 take a ton of medicine, I get to work. I 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.520 get hit with the masked freaking magician on a segment 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.440 No one's gonna watch on a segment. No wrestling fan 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.880 wants to watch a segment I don't want to watch 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.520 or be a part of, or be associated with in 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.800 any way, shape or form. And did I mention I 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.840 have a hundred one to temperature. So God bless Luke. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:46.520 This is Festus, and God bless Maria for galas goes Man, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.000 you look sickred and shamous because she is a solf, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.439 white and pale. She could like see his heart beat 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.160 like a like a baby fish or a baby frog. 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.520 He goes, man, you look worse than shame is, which 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:02.360 makes me mile and laugh. But man, I'm hurting. And 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.439 then incomes sky val Valentine, and now I can't just 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.360 tell the guy I hate you. Man, you're jerk and 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.199 you're everything that's wrong with the show business. If they 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.760 can't afford a scripted shows, so they pay you peanuts 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:17.760 and you get an hour on TV, screw you. I 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.480 can't say that, right, So I say, hey, Vole, it's 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.079 nice to meet you. Uh, what are the tricks that 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.960 you'd like to perform for us today? So he's gonna 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.240 do the head spinning around on the box trick. Hey, 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.320 that's new and fresh and hit. At least he's not exposing, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:35.400 you know, something that's not stupid, and then that they 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.319 didn't expose on Looney Tunes. And the other is a levitation. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:43.440 He's gonna levitate Maria and uh, I have never seen 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.640 a levitation be performed, So now I have to watch 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.160 it because I have to let everyone know where the 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.319 cameras are going to be. Right. Well, actually he helped 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.240 with that because he has to protect his props. I 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.000 don't I'm not trying to take credit for it. So 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.800 he's like, hey, we need a camera here here, and 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.720 here's all right, I'll grab these guys. I'm writing some 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.360 diet log for Maria and Festus too, so she can 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:07.280 be his lovely assistant. Right, and uh, I'm looking at 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.680 the levitation gimmick and it's so loud. It's so loud. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.120 And he turns on. It's like and it starts to go. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.719 I'm like, bro, how what how? How do you want 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.360 me to this? He goes, oh, well, when I perform 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.640 it on my show, there's a lot of music play, 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.520 all right, man, Well, all right, I'll put some music 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.800 in and post I guess, but right on. And so 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.440 Maria comes in and and she doesn't have much dialogue. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.720 It's like, hey, Festus, are you ready to see some magic? 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.080 It's I'm literally I don't want to be there. I'm 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.040 just trying to make this go as quickly as possible. Maria, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.800 the first trick they're gonna do is the head in 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.280 the box. I hate telling the story. So she gets 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:53.600 in and uh, he closes the box up, the one 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.640 that goes around her body, and then there's a little 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.520 door for the second box that's around her head, and 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:03.200 you can see her smiling face and h he clo. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:09.080 He closes the box and he turns it degrees and 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.839 he opens the back of the box. And what should 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.680 be Maria's red hair? Is this a red wig that 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:21.000 is about eight inches shorter than Maria's hair when she 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.520 got in the box And not even remotely did you 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.040 can look this up on YouTube and not even remotely 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.400 the same color texture or anything. Okay, So I'm already 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.439 sitting there and the camera guy was Luise, I think 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.120 his name was Luise. He looks over to me and 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.760 he goes, how did you get stuck with this ship? 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.040 And I think I said something like I think he 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.600 knows I like magic. I was talking about magic, and 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.440 I think he just did this to like screw me 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.559 over because I think I might have said screwed the 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.440 mass magician or something like that. And he's shaking his 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.760 head and the bits over. We do one take. We 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.719 do one take, and he goes, how wasn't I go, man, 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.960 that that was great. Let's just let's get to the 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.640 next one. I'm ready to go throw up at this point. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:06.680 So while they set up, I go to the bathroom. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.200 I got like a like a wet towel that I 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.960 bring over to UH to caterine. I fill up with 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.120 ice and I go back to where we're shooting in 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.560 this like cafeteria. I lay on a table and I 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.000 just put the ice over my head. While I'm laying there. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.240 Maria is, she's so sweet. She comes up, she takes 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.280 the ice pack off my head, and she goes, Freddy. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.360 I go, what she goes, don't sell? I said, what 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.280 she goes, don't sell? So what are you talking about? 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.640 She goes. Every single old timer that walks by here, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:37.760 if they see you, every single one of them is 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.040 gonna go tell Vince and tell him what that I'm 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.959 sick because a dog. She goes, No, They're gonna tell 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:47.160 me you're a little bit. Was like, oh no, all right, fair, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.600 fair enough. No more ice bags, or at least not 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:55.520 in public view. So it's time for levitation. And as 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.679 the day goes on, you know how how it feels 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.520 when you have the flu, You get worse as the 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:04.160 day goes on. Right, So I'm feeling like garbage canny. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.360 I'm drinking like they're a flu by the gallon, I think, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.000 or maybe it was just t and I'm basically hallucinating, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.360 like I'm guys are the worst when we're sick. Girls 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.480 are tougher than guys when it comes to getting sick. Man, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.520 I just wanted my mom. So we do levitation and 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:25.360 Maria lays down on the Maria lays down on this 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:32.400 board and uh uh. The mass magician pushes the button 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.679 and it goes, it goes up, and then one of 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.840 there's two hydraulics and one of them stops working, and 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.839 so the right one keeps going up, which means her 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.240 feet are going in the air, but her head's not. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.120 And she starts sliding like she goes well, and he goes, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.679 hold on, hold on, hold on, and so he has 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.840 to turn it off. And I'm shaking my head just 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.360 in shame, frustration and entertainment and joy to see this 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:04.240 guy get posed. And uh gets off the table and 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.920 he goes, hold on, hold on, let me fix it. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.360 I go all right, man, try to fix it. And 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.440 I go up to Louise and I said, uh, look, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.080 we're gonna send it to the truck and we're just 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.760 gonna cut right before it uh, before it gets right 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.600 before the thing the gimmick breaks the rig because we 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.200 can't do that, and val Valentine goes, hey, guys, yeah, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.440 he goes, uh my, hye, draw is completely broken. I'm 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.240 not gonna be able to do a second take. And 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.600 Luise goes, hey, man, so I think we should just 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.120 send this to the truck and just cut it right 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:41.840 before the thing bread And it is the single worst 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:46.600 segment in the history of SmackDown on any channel, whether 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.520 it was the c W, whether it was the up N, 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.000 whether it was what was it before that, what is 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.480 it now, whether it's on Fox Sports, whether any channel, 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.400 it is the worst segments. So you guys try to 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.480 give me credit for a lot of stuff and say, Freddie, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.040 you should go back and right man, Freddy, you should 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.720 go back and save him. Is that what you want? 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.280 Is that what you really want? Because I'm the man 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:24.400 responsible for the mass magician, sorry to say apologize now 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:30.480 this is the sad one hayde Vanson. We received a 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:37.800 note from Vince that said Undertaker needed an opponent to 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.480 run through before the next pay per view storyline. Basically, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.680 someone had gotten hurt I don't remember who, and before 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.800 we could get take her to edge. They wanted someone 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.880 that we could just run through. But they wanted us 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.840 to have it be someone that that could mean something, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.160 and so they wanted us to find someone from f 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.040 c W that we could bring up a sign, a 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:07.239 gimmick to basically smash and destroy him for the Undertaker. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:13.080 So it was to Joseph it was Fasio Angelo Fazio, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:18.080 Krista Joseph and it was meet were called Fasio Low 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.560 faz is what we called him, And to Joseph we 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.360 just called DJ. And they just called me Freddy or 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.840 at least buy my back. I'm sure they said some else. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.880 So the three of us sat down and we started 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.160 talking about this, and all our brains kind of went 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.880 to the same place right away, which would be like 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.320 a cult, like a cultish kind of figure worshippers of 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.640 the Undertaker things like that. We're kind of spitting ideas 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.320 around and nothing's really clicking. And I don't remember who 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.240 said it. I want to say DJ, but I don't 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.480 remember who brought it up. But one of us said, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.920 what if he claimed the Undertaker was his father? Who 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.600 said that? And then somebody else said, well, I don't 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.360 think anyone will buy that, but maybe it could be 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.800 like in a like us, like a supernatural sense. And 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:05.080 I remember being like no, either way, like either way 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:10.920 he's getting killed. Anyways, he's getting smashed up, which you know, again, 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.000 we're just trying to make this work. It's yes, that 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:14.679 would be a father killing his son, but he's not 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.879 really killing him. I just mean like smashing in the ring. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.000 So uh so we try working with that and we 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.080 throw it to Michael and Freebird's like, yeah, you know 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:28.119 that whatever, he doesn't he doesn't care. And uh, we 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.200 write this promo and this idea that's kind of kind 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.520 of good. And he's sort of hacking into the to 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.399 the network feed, which is not original by any stretch. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.800 Other wrestlers have done that before, but we thought this 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:41.399 was an authentic and organic way for a character like 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.080 this to come through. So he started hacking the feed 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.200 on on Front maybe as Thursday Night SmackDown back then, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.840 and uh, they would be kind of grainy pictures. They 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.200 look kind of like eighties grainy, and uh. He would 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.680 have these messages for the Undertaker that he would come 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.639 in with and and talk about how you know, like 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.800 what everyone says, basically, his time is nearing an end, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.680 and now it's it's going to be my time, and 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.280 I have anger and love for you and all this, 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:09.840 and he had this. He was a British guy. His 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.680 name was Hadrian. What a great name, Hadrian. I think 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:18.960 it was Hadrian Howard, and uh he had this ax 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.720 undertake up and that he sounded smooth when he spoke right, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.359 shaved head bit of a beard. I think the beard 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.200 matched the hairling. And he looked real cool, real cool. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.600 Look smaller guy though definitely a smaller guy, smaller than me. 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.080 I'm six one right now, and he was he was 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.320 I can't remember exactly what he looked like. I'm prettyure 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.439 he's buffer than me, which isn't saying much, but he 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:44.560 wasn't as tall as I am. I'm telling you all 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:49.439 this for a reason. So he's cutting these promos and 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:51.879 he's doing a good job, and so we get the 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.280 story approved by Freebird, and then we get it approved 0:18:55.280 --> 0:19:01.239 by Vince, and we start shooting these little segments and uh, 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:04.199 they're airing on television. It's an ongoing thing. And he 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.120 and he's he's not calling out the Undertaker, but he's 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.040 sort of he's speaking about the Undertaker, and you're just 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.720 waiting to figure out what the reason for it is. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.720 It can't just be I want your spot. That would 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.399 be stupid, and it wasn't. It was this father something. 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.480 So we're building up. I think we get two weeks 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:28.119 of TV out of it, and then we go to Bristol, 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.320 Connecticut and I'll never forget it because there's a train 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.480 station or a train track right by the arena and 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:40.600 we're gonna shoot this segment outside on this like graffiti, 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:47.320 moss and algae urine stained wall. It's just real dirty 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.119 and gritty, and we have like yellow Blade to Garamo 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.800 Del Torro lighting coming from one side and like blue 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.959 and Pink Ridley Scott Blade Runner lighting coming from the 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.000 other side, and we're shooting him super clothes and uh, 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.240 he busts out the pro minutes that is the best 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.880 one that he's done so far. Nothing in ring, everything 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.560 on on site and on location. So we cut it, 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.800 we show it. Everyone's excited and it's not showtime yet. 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:18.960 We shot this before. We shot this before the show 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:20.920 because this was the tape show, not the live one, 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.639 so you had more time to accomplish these goals. So 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:28.600 we're in the production meeting and everyone's putting their segments 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.720 through and all this and here comes our segment and 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.600 nobody said boot. No one said boot the last two weeks, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.520 last two or even three weeks of TV that we 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.840 got out of it, not one agent, not Kevin Dunn, 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.000 not not Vince, not anybody. Sometimes we have people on 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.800 the Raw team dumping on like SmackDown ideas it was crazy, 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.119 Smagdown would catch heat and Smagdown sitting there like y'all 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.639 rewrite us the day of the show before you even 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:57.200 read the script, Like no one read SmackDown, nobody, no one, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.640 Vince read it when we were in the production meeting. 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.200 That's where our production meetings for four hours long. So 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.800 we're all committed to this, or so we think, and 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:11.160 all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Hunter says, are 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.280 we seriously going with this guy? And remember this is 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.560 not a pay per view match? This is not a 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.919 guy that would get any sort of offense off on 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.440 the on the Undertaker. It would be just a build 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.439 up for the Undertaker to have something to do so 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.800 he could smash this guy and then get rolling over 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.159 to edge. He says, are we really going to go 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:38.080 with this guy? And Vince goes, man, what's the problem, 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.240 and he says, he looks like he cuts my grass 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:47.840 Man and literally and Vince laughed, and literally all the 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.400 air went out of the room. Everybody just went no, no, 0:21:52.920 --> 0:21:56.360 like you could just feel it because we because now 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.520 it's embarrassing to the company, Well at least from my perspective. 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:02.320 You put thing on TV for three weeks and then 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:06.000 you remove it with no explanation. There's no way you 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:10.200 can do that. Like that doesn't happen on any show. 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.520 You You could replace someone, right like first Prince of 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.720 bel Air back in the day. No, I was under 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.120 just a new mom or on the soap operas when 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:19.920