1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: M. What's up everybody? Welcome back to a brand new 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: episode of Wrestling with Freddie. And today's episode is story 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Time with Uncle Frederick. And this is Wrestling with Freddie 4 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: now stuffing up for the min The host of Wrestling 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: with Freddie, Freddie Brice tune. Yeah. On today's episode, we're 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna tell well, I don't know how many stories we're 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell. There's always a bunch of side quests, but 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to focus on two stories, and one 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: of which was asking me on Twitter. So if any 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: of you guys know of anything going on when I 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: worked there that you have questions about, feel free to 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: hit me up on social media. That's real fpj R. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: On Twitter. That's the best way for me to answer 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: wrestling questions. I'm not on Instagram that much, so this question, 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't remember your name, but I'm gonna 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: get good at that by season two maybe. But he 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: asked about the story of hayde Vanson. And for those 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: who there's some like hardcoes right now, they're like, no 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: freaking way. Yes I wrote this with a couple other people, 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: but yes I wrote this, and yes it died a 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: horrible death, So we're gonna get into that, and for 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: those of you who don't know, it's just a funny story. 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: And then the other story we're gonna tell it was 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: my worst day in the company. And I'm pretty sure 25 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Vince did it to me just as as a practical 26 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: joke they call it a rib was just ribbing you. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: But man, it sucked. And that was when SmackDown I 28 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: think was on. Maybe it was the c W or 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the up N. It was a long time ago, and 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: they've changed names a lot more than w W wrestler's names. 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: But they made me direct a segment for the Masked 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: Magician because he had a show on the same network 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: and they were trying to cross promote, and he was 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: going to use wrestlers as like the volunteers from the audience. 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna start with this story because for those 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: of you who don't know, I love magic. When I 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: was a little kid, I went to a magic shop 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles, California, and so like some of 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: the best magicians in the world were here, and it 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: was a place called the Magic Castle, and you could 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: go there and eat and they would perform for you. 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: And these were like top top shelf magicians. And I 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: went to a magic shop and my mom said, you 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: can get one trick, any trick you want. And I 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: looked around at everything, and I didn't look at the 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: back of any of the boxes. I just looked around. 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: And I went back to my mom and I said, 48 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to get any of 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: these tricks. And she said why not, and I said, 50 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: because I don't want to know how they work. And 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: there's a scene from a movie with Christian Bale and 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman and they're like dueling magicians and Christian Bale, 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it for you if you 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, but he's in love with this with 55 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: this woman, and he's doing a magic trick and this 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: is like the eight hundreds in England, I believe. And 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: he's doing a bullet catch, which was a spectacular trick 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: because magicians had died doing it, and his wife or 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: his girlfriend doesn't want him to do it, and he says, no, 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: it's perfectly safe. She goes, show me how to do it. 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I can't. I can't show you how 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: to do it. She goes, well, then you can't. You 63 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: can't do it. You you have more responsibilities than just yourself. 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Now you have me, we're going to have a child. 65 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: You have responsibilities that your father says, all right, if 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: I show you will you will you let me do it. 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: She says okay. He does the bullet catch, and then 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: he reveals the trick that he pulls the bullet from 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: the gun before he ever gives her the pistol to fire, 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: and so it's just watting. There is no bullet, and 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: he breaks it down. He basically says the gun is empty, 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: there is no bullet, and she looks at him and 73 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: she it's almost instead of relief, it's disappointment. And then 74 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: she says, oh, well, when you know how it's done, 75 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: it's not that special, is it. And you can see 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: his heart break the way a woman should have in 77 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: his heart, and he says, well, no, you know, it's 78 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: still it's still pretty dangerous. You know, people can die 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: doing this, and she just like shrugs it off, like yeah, okay, 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, And that to me was magic, right. I 81 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: never wanted to know how it was done. It was 82 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: why I couldn't watch wrestling for about eight months when 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: I left the company, because I knew. I knew all 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: the tricks and some of the magic had had faded away, 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until my daughter got real into it 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: that I came back sort of full circle. So I'm 87 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: the perfect guy to direct a segment for a character 88 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: whose entire gimmick is destroying magician's careers and exposing all 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: their secrets and all their trade secrets and and making 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: magic no longer magic. Like that guy that did that 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Scuzzy John was his name, John Moffatt Or no, that's 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: the character from Silence of the Lambs, the New York 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: journalist that got slapped by by Dr De David Schultz. 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: And there was a wrestler who like gave up the 95 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: secrets in order to help this story get made. Like 96 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: screw that guy, and screw the mass magician. His name 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: was like Valve Valentine or something and so and this 98 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: may sound hardcore, like wow, Freddie is really getting on 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a soapbox for magicians, but and I know it is, 100 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, but check this out. Man, Like these men 101 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and these women, their entire livelihood is on making you 102 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: guess right, how do you do it? How do you 103 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: do it? So all these YouTube videos, all these Instagram 104 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: videos and Valve Valentine who started it with his mass 105 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: magician crap, like that's that's hurting magicians. It's not getting 106 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: people more excited about magic, not anymore so than they'd 107 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: be if they saw a magician and wondered how they 108 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: could do it. No, it's just people putting a spotlight 109 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: on themselves because they don't have what it takes. They're 110 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: not the three dimensional magician. They may just be good 111 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: at slide a hand, or they may just be good 112 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: on the microphone, or maybe they're just funny, but none 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: of the other skills are up to part. And they're 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: mad about that, and they're trying to get their own 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: shine and make money in a new way. But it's 116 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: just destroyed the magic business. So now I get to 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: work with this guy, So Vince gives me Maria and 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: Maria Cannellis that is, and uh Biscuits and Gravy what 119 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: were their names? Festus became Luke Gallows and uh Gordie's kid. 120 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but anyway, they their theme music wing 121 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: Biscuits and Grave and Festus was this character played by Luke. 122 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: You guys know him. Now it's Luke Gallows. If you 123 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: watched a w or or the indie scenes, now, shout 124 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: out to my buddy Angelo who gave him that name. 125 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: And uh, his character doesn't speak. He was not mute. 126 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: He was just kind of dumb, right and just sort 127 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: of like lobotomized. And then when the bell would ring, 128 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: this is his gimmick. I'm not saying this was great, 129 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: but it made me laugh at least when the wrestling 130 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: bell would ring, he would like run, He just beat 131 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the crap out of whoever was in front of him, 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: and if the bell ring again, he would go back 133 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: into his docile, lobotomized state, which doesn't give a long 134 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: career for a character like that, because the moment someone goes, well, 135 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: maybe if I just ring the bell again in the 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: middle of the match and he'll stop, and then I 137 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: can just pin it, which happened, and then the characters 138 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: magic kind of died right them as the tag team 139 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: he Maria Canellis, and the story is supposed to be 140 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: that Festus has a crush on Maria. I'm like trying 141 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: to prevent a migraine wall explaining this this storyline to you, guys, 142 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: that's how painful this memory is, and uh, they're gonna 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: do this magic thing together, the mass magician is. It's 144 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: going to be like a date kind of. So I 145 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: wake up that morning and I feel horrible. I grabbed thermometer. 146 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: Take my temperature one degrees sick as a dog. There 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: is no there are no sick days at the w 148 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: w E. You go, You go to work unless you're dead, 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and even then they fire you. He's fired. He didn't 150 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: show up. Dude, he's dead. Well, he won't care, so 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: he wouldn't do that. So I feel like crap. I 152 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: take a ton of medicine, I get to work. I 153 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: get hit with the masked freaking magician on a segment 154 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: No one's gonna watch on a segment. No wrestling fan 155 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: wants to watch a segment I don't want to watch 156 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: or be a part of, or be associated with in 157 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. And did I mention I 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: have a hundred one to temperature. So God bless Luke. 159 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: This is Festus, and God bless Maria for galas goes Man, 160 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you look sickred and shamous because she is a solf, 161 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: white and pale. She could like see his heart beat 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: like a like a baby fish or a baby frog. 163 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: He goes, man, you look worse than shame is, which 164 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: makes me mile and laugh. But man, I'm hurting. And 165 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: then incomes sky val Valentine, and now I can't just 166 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: tell the guy I hate you. Man, you're jerk and 167 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: you're everything that's wrong with the show business. If they 168 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: can't afford a scripted shows, so they pay you peanuts 169 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: and you get an hour on TV, screw you. I 170 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: can't say that, right, So I say, hey, Vole, it's 171 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: nice to meet you. Uh, what are the tricks that 172 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: you'd like to perform for us today? So he's gonna 173 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: do the head spinning around on the box trick. Hey, 174 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: that's new and fresh and hit. At least he's not exposing, 175 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, something that's not stupid, and then that they 176 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: didn't expose on Looney Tunes. And the other is a levitation. 177 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna levitate Maria and uh, I have never seen 178 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: a levitation be performed, So now I have to watch 179 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: it because I have to let everyone know where the 180 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: cameras are going to be. Right. Well, actually he helped 181 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: with that because he has to protect his props. I 182 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: don't I'm not trying to take credit for it. So 183 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: he's like, hey, we need a camera here here, and 184 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: here's all right, I'll grab these guys. I'm writing some 185 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: diet log for Maria and Festus too, so she can 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: be his lovely assistant. Right, and uh, I'm looking at 187 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the levitation gimmick and it's so loud. It's so loud. 188 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: And he turns on. It's like and it starts to go. 189 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, how what how? How do you want 190 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: me to this? He goes, oh, well, when I perform 191 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: it on my show, there's a lot of music play, 192 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: all right, man, Well, all right, I'll put some music 193 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: in and post I guess, but right on. And so 194 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Maria comes in and and she doesn't have much dialogue. 195 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Festus, are you ready to see some magic? 196 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: It's I'm literally I don't want to be there. I'm 197 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: just trying to make this go as quickly as possible. Maria, 198 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the first trick they're gonna do is the head in 199 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: the box. I hate telling the story. So she gets 200 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: in and uh, he closes the box up, the one 201 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: that goes around her body, and then there's a little 202 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: door for the second box that's around her head, and 203 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: you can see her smiling face and h he clo. 204 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: He closes the box and he turns it degrees and 205 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: he opens the back of the box. And what should 206 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: be Maria's red hair? Is this a red wig that 207 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: is about eight inches shorter than Maria's hair when she 208 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: got in the box And not even remotely did you 209 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: can look this up on YouTube and not even remotely 210 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: the same color texture or anything. Okay, So I'm already 211 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: sitting there and the camera guy was Luise, I think 212 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: his name was Luise. He looks over to me and 213 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: he goes, how did you get stuck with this ship? 214 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: And I think I said something like I think he 215 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: knows I like magic. I was talking about magic, and 216 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: I think he just did this to like screw me 217 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: over because I think I might have said screwed the 218 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: mass magician or something like that. And he's shaking his 219 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: head and the bits over. We do one take. We 220 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: do one take, and he goes, how wasn't I go, man, 221 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: that that was great. Let's just let's get to the 222 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: next one. I'm ready to go throw up at this point. 223 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: So while they set up, I go to the bathroom. 224 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: I got like a like a wet towel that I 225 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: bring over to UH to caterine. I fill up with 226 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: ice and I go back to where we're shooting in 227 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: this like cafeteria. I lay on a table and I 228 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: just put the ice over my head. While I'm laying there. 229 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Maria is, she's so sweet. She comes up, she takes 230 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: the ice pack off my head, and she goes, Freddy. 231 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: I go, what she goes, don't sell? I said, what 232 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: she goes, don't sell? So what are you talking about? 233 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: She goes. Every single old timer that walks by here, 234 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: if they see you, every single one of them is 235 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna go tell Vince and tell him what that I'm 236 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: sick because a dog. She goes, No, They're gonna tell 237 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: me you're a little bit. Was like, oh no, all right, fair, 238 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: fair enough. No more ice bags, or at least not 239 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: in public view. So it's time for levitation. And as 240 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: the day goes on, you know how how it feels 241 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: when you have the flu, You get worse as the 242 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: day goes on. Right, So I'm feeling like garbage canny. 243 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm drinking like they're a flu by the gallon, I think, 244 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: or maybe it was just t and I'm basically hallucinating, 245 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: like I'm guys are the worst when we're sick. Girls 246 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: are tougher than guys when it comes to getting sick. Man, 247 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: I just wanted my mom. So we do levitation and 248 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: Maria lays down on the Maria lays down on this 249 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: board and uh uh. The mass magician pushes the button 250 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: and it goes, it goes up, and then one of 251 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: there's two hydraulics and one of them stops working, and 252 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: so the right one keeps going up, which means her 253 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: feet are going in the air, but her head's not. 254 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: And she starts sliding like she goes well, and he goes, 255 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, and so he has 256 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: to turn it off. And I'm shaking my head just 257 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: in shame, frustration and entertainment and joy to see this 258 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: guy get posed. And uh gets off the table and 259 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: he goes, hold on, hold on, let me fix it. 260 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I go all right, man, try to fix it. And 261 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I go up to Louise and I said, uh, look, 262 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna send it to the truck and we're just 263 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: gonna cut right before it uh, before it gets right 264 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: before the thing the gimmick breaks the rig because we 265 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: can't do that, and val Valentine goes, hey, guys, yeah, 266 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: he goes, uh my, hye, draw is completely broken. I'm 267 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do a second take. And 268 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: Luise goes, hey, man, so I think we should just 269 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: send this to the truck and just cut it right 270 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: before the thing bread And it is the single worst 271 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: segment in the history of SmackDown on any channel, whether 272 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: it was the c W, whether it was the up N, 273 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: whether it was what was it before that, what is 274 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: it now, whether it's on Fox Sports, whether any channel, 275 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: it is the worst segments. So you guys try to 276 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: give me credit for a lot of stuff and say, Freddie, 277 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: you should go back and right man, Freddy, you should 278 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: go back and save him. Is that what you want? 279 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: Is that what you really want? Because I'm the man 280 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: responsible for the mass magician, sorry to say apologize now 281 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: this is the sad one hayde Vanson. We received a 282 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: note from Vince that said Undertaker needed an opponent to 283 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: run through before the next pay per view storyline. Basically, 284 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: someone had gotten hurt I don't remember who, and before 285 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: we could get take her to edge. They wanted someone 286 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: that we could just run through. But they wanted us 287 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: to have it be someone that that could mean something, 288 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: and so they wanted us to find someone from f 289 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: c W that we could bring up a sign, a 290 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:07,239 Speaker 1: gimmick to basically smash and destroy him for the Undertaker. 291 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: So it was to Joseph it was Fasio Angelo Fazio, 292 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Krista Joseph and it was meet were called Fasio Low 293 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: faz is what we called him, And to Joseph we 294 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: just called DJ. And they just called me Freddy or 295 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: at least buy my back. I'm sure they said some else. 296 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: So the three of us sat down and we started 297 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: talking about this, and all our brains kind of went 298 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: to the same place right away, which would be like 299 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: a cult, like a cultish kind of figure worshippers of 300 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: the Undertaker things like that. We're kind of spitting ideas 301 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: around and nothing's really clicking. And I don't remember who 302 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: said it. I want to say DJ, but I don't 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: remember who brought it up. But one of us said, 304 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: what if he claimed the Undertaker was his father? Who 305 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: said that? And then somebody else said, well, I don't 306 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: think anyone will buy that, but maybe it could be 307 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: like in a like us, like a supernatural sense. And 308 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: I remember being like no, either way, like either way 309 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: he's getting killed. Anyways, he's getting smashed up, which you know, again, 310 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: we're just trying to make this work. It's yes, that 311 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: would be a father killing his son, but he's not 312 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: really killing him. I just mean like smashing in the ring. 313 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: So uh so we try working with that and we 314 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: throw it to Michael and Freebird's like, yeah, you know 315 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: that whatever, he doesn't he doesn't care. And uh, we 316 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: write this promo and this idea that's kind of kind 317 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: of good. And he's sort of hacking into the to 318 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: the network feed, which is not original by any stretch. 319 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Other wrestlers have done that before, but we thought this 320 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: was an authentic and organic way for a character like 321 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: this to come through. So he started hacking the feed 322 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: on on Front maybe as Thursday Night SmackDown back then, 323 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: and uh, they would be kind of grainy pictures. They 324 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: look kind of like eighties grainy, and uh. He would 325 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: have these messages for the Undertaker that he would come 326 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: in with and and talk about how you know, like 327 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: what everyone says, basically, his time is nearing an end, 328 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: and now it's it's going to be my time, and 329 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I have anger and love for you and all this, 330 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: and he had this. He was a British guy. His 331 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: name was Hadrian. What a great name, Hadrian. I think 332 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: it was Hadrian Howard, and uh he had this ax 333 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: undertake up and that he sounded smooth when he spoke right, 334 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: shaved head bit of a beard. I think the beard 335 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: matched the hairling. And he looked real cool, real cool. 336 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: Look smaller guy though definitely a smaller guy, smaller than me. 337 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm six one right now, and he was he was 338 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what he looked like. I'm prettyure 339 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: he's buffer than me, which isn't saying much, but he 340 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: wasn't as tall as I am. I'm telling you all 341 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: this for a reason. So he's cutting these promos and 342 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: he's doing a good job, and so we get the 343 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: story approved by Freebird, and then we get it approved 344 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 1: by Vince, and we start shooting these little segments and uh, 345 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: they're airing on television. It's an ongoing thing. And he 346 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: and he's he's not calling out the Undertaker, but he's 347 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: sort of he's speaking about the Undertaker, and you're just 348 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: waiting to figure out what the reason for it is. 349 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: It can't just be I want your spot. That would 350 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: be stupid, and it wasn't. It was this father something. 351 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: So we're building up. I think we get two weeks 352 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: of TV out of it, and then we go to Bristol, 353 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Connecticut and I'll never forget it because there's a train 354 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: station or a train track right by the arena and 355 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna shoot this segment outside on this like graffiti, 356 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: moss and algae urine stained wall. It's just real dirty 357 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: and gritty, and we have like yellow Blade to Garamo 358 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Del Torro lighting coming from one side and like blue 359 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: and Pink Ridley Scott Blade Runner lighting coming from the 360 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: other side, and we're shooting him super clothes and uh, 361 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: he busts out the pro minutes that is the best 362 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: one that he's done so far. Nothing in ring, everything 363 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: on on site and on location. So we cut it, 364 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: we show it. Everyone's excited and it's not showtime yet. 365 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: We shot this before. We shot this before the show 366 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: because this was the tape show, not the live one, 367 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: so you had more time to accomplish these goals. So 368 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: we're in the production meeting and everyone's putting their segments 369 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: through and all this and here comes our segment and 370 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: nobody said boot. No one said boot the last two weeks, 371 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: last two or even three weeks of TV that we 372 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: got out of it, not one agent, not Kevin Dunn, 373 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: not not Vince, not anybody. Sometimes we have people on 374 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: the Raw team dumping on like SmackDown ideas it was crazy, 375 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: Smagdown would catch heat and Smagdown sitting there like y'all 376 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: rewrite us the day of the show before you even 377 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: read the script, Like no one read SmackDown, nobody, no one, 378 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: Vince read it when we were in the production meeting. 379 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: That's where our production meetings for four hours long. So 380 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: we're all committed to this, or so we think, and 381 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, out of nowhere, Hunter says, are 382 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: we seriously going with this guy? And remember this is 383 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: not a pay per view match? This is not a 384 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: guy that would get any sort of offense off on 385 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: the on the Undertaker. It would be just a build 386 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: up for the Undertaker to have something to do so 387 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: he could smash this guy and then get rolling over 388 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: to edge. He says, are we really going to go 389 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: with this guy? And Vince goes, man, what's the problem, 390 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: and he says, he looks like he cuts my grass 391 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: Man and literally and Vince laughed, and literally all the 392 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: air went out of the room. Everybody just went no, no, 393 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: like you could just feel it because we because now 394 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: it's embarrassing to the company, Well at least from my perspective. 395 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: You put thing on TV for three weeks and then 396 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: you remove it with no explanation. There's no way you 397 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: can do that. Like that doesn't happen on any show. 398 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: You You could replace someone, right like first Prince of 399 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: bel Air back in the day. No, I was under 400 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: just a new mom or on the soap operas when 401 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: they'd be like the role of so and so is 402 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: no played by Michael Barnett. I don't know who Michael 403 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: Barnett is. So I'm sitting there like there's no way, 404 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: there's no way, there's no way, and Vince laughs and 405 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: then Hunter laughs, and then Kevin Dunn laughs. Boy, and 406 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean he sells for you would have thought you 407 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: that's the best joke ever. Right, So I'm like, oh man, 408 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: this is We're dead. We're dead. And Vince goes, all right, 409 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: dump it. And now it's not just your idea that's gone. 410 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: Whatever I had ideas get crushed. Now I gotta go 411 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: talk to homeboy and I gotta tell him that his 412 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: character or that he was so excited for. And imagine 413 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: you're in the minor leagues, okay, and you get called 414 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: up to the Yankees and the guy at first base 415 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: as a Hall of Famer it's Don Mattingly, and he says, hey, 416 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you the ropes, take you under my wing, 417 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be you know, you're gonna be a 418 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: part of this baseball team. And you're like, wow, this 419 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: is like, this doesn't happen to anybody. Well, it doesn't. Uh. 420 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: This guy came up from f c W. His very 421 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: first professional wrestling storyline with the company was gonna be 422 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: with the greatest. He's over the moon, and then now 423 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: he has to be told that it's not gonna happen 424 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: because he looks like the guy that cut triple H 425 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: his grass. It is such a sickening, sickening feeling, and 426 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: it's our responsibility as as the writing team to communicate 427 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: it to this guy. And so it gets broken down 428 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: to him. He's clearly disappointed. And the question from any 429 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: artists who wants to work is, well, well, what's next? 430 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: Where do we go from here and I'm not. I 431 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: can't tell the guy like, yo, that's a rap, Like 432 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: that's it's done, Like you got deaded and it's it's done. 433 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: The best thing you could do is walk away for 434 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: a year and come back. Like I, I just wasn't 435 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: in the wrestling business headspace in or did I have 436 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: the experience yet to to break it down for him. 437 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: So I just said, I honestly have no idea. I 438 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: do not know. Three months later, I think I'm already 439 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: maybe six months later, I've now left the company and 440 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: I get an email from this dude and he's left 441 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: the company and he's just wanting to act. Now. I 442 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: remember sitting there going wow, like he could he could 443 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: maybe actually do that because he his his work was good, 444 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: good looking. Do definitely could play some bad guys for sure. 445 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: He had a very like stern mean face and a 446 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: sharp nose, sharp eyes like a hawk. Just looked like 447 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: a guy that would be in a fight with the 448 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: with the protagonist in a movie, right, I call my agents. 449 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: At the time, I don't remember where I was. I 450 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: think it was I c M. I wasn't. You gotta 451 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: remember I wasn't acting then. I'd never officially like let 452 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: go of my agent, but I didn't know them very well, 453 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: and I said, uh. I emailed him and said, hey, 454 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: I know this wrestler, he's one to act. Could I 455 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: maybe just get him like a like a hip pocket 456 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: deal with you guys, Or could he send a tape 457 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: an audition for you and just see if if you 458 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: like it. Maybe there's a junior agent there that could 459 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: work with him. The email I got back was we're 460 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: not looking to work with any professional wrestlers. And I 461 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: just sat there. I was like, man, because I you 462 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: gotta understand, I love these men and women. I genuinely 463 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: love them. I'll respect the sacrifices they make. I respect 464 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: what they put their bodies through. I respect the the 465 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: the amount of stress that they're under with the travel 466 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: they have, and the commitments that the company demands you 467 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: you make. So I I've seen them work way harder 468 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: than I've had to work for less. So I got 469 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: I got a lot of love for these for these 470 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: men and women, and I don't I don't like when 471 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: this business craps on on the wrestling business because I 472 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: think they have some really talented performers. Um. I know 473 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: we've talked about some of the actors before, and I 474 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: even forgot to mention Dave Batista because I'm an idiot, 475 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: but like, look at how carefully that guy has has 476 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: built and developed his career, right, Like he's never taken 477 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: on too much too soon, and don't hit me with will. 478 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: No one offered him the looting in movies. It was 479 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: just like the muscle guy parts. That's a bunch of BS. 480 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that's BS, because I know 481 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: a movie that got offered to him where he was 482 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: the lead and the men, but he didn't feel ready yet. 483 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: He didn't want to put himself in that position with 484 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: a character that he didn't connect with, and at least 485 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: this is what was told to the producer, and so 486 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: he didn't do that movie. And you watched just sort 487 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: of grow from from a monster in a movie to 488 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: suddenly working with Jodie Foster in that weird hospital movie 489 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: where he was the orderly that kicked ass, but you 490 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: saw some vulnerability out of Dave. Then then he keeps evolving. 491 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: Now he's gonna do a romantic or not romantic comedy. Well, 492 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure he will eventually, but he did a dad 493 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: daughter kind of vibe one. He's doing a buddy cop 494 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: movie now, like he's really starting to grow and take off. 495 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: So to see Hollywood embrace wrestling now, I'm always like, man, 496 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 1: you're just trying to make money off of me and 497 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: I And granted it's show business, right, and we all 498 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: know business is the bigger word, but they blow so 499 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: much smoke man, and I've seen him do it with actors, 500 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: so I know they do it with wrestlers. And it 501 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: was one of the things that always disappointed me about 502 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: my business, so to speak, was the way it just 503 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: it's so like segregated isn't the right word. But it 504 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: was like when I was coming up, there were TV 505 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: shows that I was like, man, that because I want 506 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: to do TVs. When they Freddy, you're a film actor, 507 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: you don't do television, I was like, what, I'm just 508 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: as an actor. There's no film before it, there's not 509 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm an actor. And then Glenn Close did a show 510 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: where she played a lawyer. I think it's called Damages, 511 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: and that blasted the door wide open, and then every 512 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: film actor was suddenly a television actor, wounding Emmy's left 513 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: and right, and they loved the schedule. They loved the consistency, 514 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: They loved that they got to play one character for 515 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: a longer amount of time than just six weeks, and 516 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: really start to figure that that's exciting for an actor. 517 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, that all got mushed, 518 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: and now you see Hollywood coming in and the rock 519 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: chicks down the door. And then John Cena, instead of 520 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: slipping on ice when he walked through it, he took 521 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: the frame off so they can't build it again. And 522 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they're loving wrestlers. So I hope, 523 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: I hope the trend continues. And uh, I appreciate all 524 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: of you guys and gals listening, and I will see 525 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: you next week right here on Wrestling of Freddy. This 526 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: has been a production of I Hearts Michael to podcast Network. 527 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: For more podcasts for my Heart Radio, visit the I 528 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to 529 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: your favorite shows. M h m hmmm.