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Speaker 1: Oh, commit everybody. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now. It's the week

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Speaker 1: before Christmas, and all through the land, not a liberal

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Speaker 1: is stirring as if they don't have a plan. Clay,

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Democrats are in recession, in remission

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Speaker 1: a lot of stories to discuss though, in the news

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Speaker 1: cycle in general, not that many fake news narratives to

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Speaker 1: swat down, something we normally do here, because fake news

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Speaker 1: just hoping they don't get pink slips for Christmas. I

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Speaker 1: think that's kind of where they are. Can't even watch

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Speaker 1: My Beloved no longer Beloved Morning Joe anymore. Once the

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Speaker 1: hysteria has gone, the thrill is gone. But some other

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Speaker 1: news stories to dive into, for example, the drones over

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Speaker 1: New Jersey thing. This is just out of hint. We've

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Speaker 1: got to We've got to get a definitive answer here,

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Speaker 1: and Clay, my apologies for you and for the millions listening.

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Speaker 1: If you hear any whining in the background, Ginger has

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Speaker 1: snuck into the studio and has decided that she is

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Speaker 1: begging to play fetch with her new Christmas toy, so

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Speaker 1: at least we are Christmas themed. It's like a little

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Speaker 1: chewable elf that makes a squeak. So just some a

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Speaker 1: programming note or a technical note. Apologies if you hear.

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Speaker 1: I'll take care of her in the next break with

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Speaker 1: some chicken jerky. But we have the drones over New

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Speaker 1: Jersey story, we have the still the aftermath of Biden

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Speaker 1: Harris and just what a disaster it is Trump cabinet picks.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing Clay these commercials. I've never seen this before.

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Speaker 1: Commercials on Fox News for Pete Hegsett's role as Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Defense. So Maga has decided to go all in

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Speaker 1: behind our friend Pete. And the decision was made that Okay,

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Speaker 1: they got you know, they they made a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, best of luck to him, and I hope

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Speaker 1: everything goes great. But he stepped aside. They thought they'd

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Speaker 1: been made very clear. So a little more on the

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Speaker 1: Trump cabinet picks, that we can get to a horrific

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Speaker 1: shooting yesterday and we didn't have many details when it happened,

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Speaker 1: when it broke and we're on the air in Madison, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: The thing that's getting the most attention about other than

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Speaker 1: obviously it's horrific school shooting. Two people killed, one member

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Speaker 1: shooter committed suicide. It's a female shooter, right this is

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Speaker 1: And there's all this conversation that was happening online about well,

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Speaker 1: know the gender. Whether they're reporting it accurately or not,

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Speaker 1: it's a different thing. But we live in the real world,

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Speaker 1: gender is. So so far the reports are a teenage

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Speaker 1: mail engaged in that shooting, and there's a manifesto. We

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Speaker 1: might talk to you a bit more about that. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Biden wants gun control. Fascinating clay gun control for this,

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Speaker 1: but no gun control talk. After the assassination of the

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Speaker 1: United Healthcare CEO, and I had alluded to this before.

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Speaker 1: I believe the United Healthcare CEO is someone who, according

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Speaker 1: people in the business, recognize the problems of the business,

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Speaker 1: recognize United's reputation was taking hits for wanted to improve it.

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Speaker 1: This is coming from people inside the industry all over

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Speaker 1: the place that this was, that this guy was a

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Speaker 1: really good guy. Yeah, he worked in the healthcare industry.

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Speaker 1: So do hundreds of thousands of other people. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the whole narrative on this. Very happy to see Trump

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Speaker 1: any support for this is completely outrageous. You know, any

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Speaker 1: us know clay. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is considering resigning.

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Speaker 1: it's fine to write it. Now, where was the numbers

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Speaker 1: seeing Maga hats in the gym. Yeah, Clay, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: a New York City gym for the last eight years,

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Speaker 1: which occurred before Trump were president or is it the

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Speaker 1: actual payment which occurred after Trump were president. This is

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Speaker 1: the kind of thing, buck, that lawyers sit around debating.

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Speaker 1: And if that sounds intriguing to you, and you are

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Speaker 1: sixteen years old listening to us right now, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: love law school, young man or young woman. If that

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Speaker 1: makes your eyeballs roll back into your head and you

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Speaker 1: think to yourself, oh my goodness, that debate sounds awful,

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Speaker 1: then the law might not be for you. And regardless,

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Speaker 1: you're probably going to spend a bunch of time doing

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Speaker 1: docker view if you're a young lawyer anyway, most of

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Speaker 1: the time. But does that make sense to you that

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Speaker 1: it actually to me is kind of a really fascinating

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Speaker 1: application of this decision from the Supreme Court, which doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a clear cut answer. I think this case is

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Speaker 1: going to get tossed on appeal eventually. I think the

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Speaker 1: case in Georgia that Fanny Willis brought is total garbage

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Speaker 1: and directly implicates presidential powers. I'm not sure exactly whether

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Speaker 1: that's the Lynchpin to get it tossed out. This is

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Speaker 1: me being a legal nerd trying to analyze this, and

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Speaker 1: that's really what the appeal is going to be, I believe,

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Speaker 1: focused on as it pertains to presidential powers. So you're

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Speaker 1: not worried about it, though, No you don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Trump really is. I just think he wants the

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Speaker 1: vindication of the case being dismissed because I think he

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Speaker 1: sees it for what it is, which is total and

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Speaker 1: really they're telling you it's total bs because they're now

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Speaker 1: not going to have the sentencing until twenty twenty nine

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Speaker 1: at the earliest, and they'll just push it off to

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Speaker 1: the side. Once Trump's no longer president. Nobody's gonna care

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Speaker 1: about this. You know, I was asked it was on

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Speaker 1: her podcast, so I can say it wasn't like offline,

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Speaker 1: you know, I try to keep confidence. Is Kim Strassel

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. I did her podcast, and you

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Speaker 1: know the Wall Street Journal is obviously very establishment, right

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Speaker 1: of center, establishment Republican. It's a great paper. Kim is

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Speaker 1: a fantastic editorial commonist. But she asked me about this,

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Speaker 1: this fear of a vindictive Trump or this fear that

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Speaker 1: there will be retribution from Trump. And to this, it's

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Speaker 1: funny because I don't just dismiss out of hand that

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Speaker 1: there should there need to actually be consequences for people

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Speaker 1: who have done some of these things. So I would

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Speaker 1: I didn't sit there and say, oh, no, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Trump is I think he's gonna let bygones be

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Speaker 1: bygones with everybody and everything is fine.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I believe that would be unjust. I think that would

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Speaker 1: actually be wrong. I think to be personally vindictive and

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Speaker 1: to be unconstitutional or unlawful in your approach to any

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Speaker 1: American is wrong. But if people broke the law, they

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Speaker 1: should pay the price. And you know that's their approach

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Speaker 1: to Trump. I bring it up, Clay, just because I

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Speaker 1: don't see a way that through the law anything can

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Speaker 1: be done about what's going on here in New York

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Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. But there need to at least be

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Speaker 1: political consequences for it. I mean, there has to be.

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Speaker 1: What they've done is so atrocious that it cannot be

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Speaker 1: forgotten and forgiven. Do you know that that's my take

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Speaker 1: on it? Well, I think again, the Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 1: is going to severely curtail what they did to Trump,

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Speaker 1: because so much of what a president does is arguably

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Speaker 1: within the purview of presidential powers. Investigating the outcome of

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Speaker 1: an election is definitely within the purview of presidential powers.

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Speaker 1: Telling your Department of Justice to undertake an investigation is

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Speaker 1: certainly within presidential powers. Calling individual in my opinion, calling

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Speaker 1: individual state attorney generals and elections officials and inquiring about

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Speaker 1: the legitimacy of their vote count, to me, is clearly

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Speaker 1: within the purview of a president. And so I think

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Speaker 1: they've made it going forward. The Supreme Court, to their credit,

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Speaker 1: has made it much more difficult to bring these kind

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Speaker 1: of charges going forward. And I think you would agree,

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Speaker 1: and I think most of our audience would agree. The

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Speaker 1: president's not above the law. But if you're going to

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Speaker 1: charge the president with a crime, it needs to be

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Speaker 1: a crime that doesn't have anything at all to do

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Speaker 1: with the execution of his duties as president of the

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Speaker 1: United States. If the president got super drunk, I don't

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Speaker 1: care who he is, and he got in a car

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Speaker 1: and you know, he mowed down three people because he

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Speaker 1: was at a you know, a point two oh or

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Speaker 1: something on the you know, yeah, I know that you

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Speaker 1: actually have you've You've committed real quick with real victims,

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Speaker 1: and you need to pay the price for that. I

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Speaker 1: don't care who the president is or what the situation

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Speaker 1: is around the politics of it. A business records case

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Speaker 1: against the president is this is absurd. It's absurd. There's

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Speaker 1: no other way to say it. And look, I'll give

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Speaker 1: you an example of something that would clearly not be

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Speaker 1: within presidential powers that has been a scandal in recent history,

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky, even though it occurred

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Speaker 1: in the Oval office, much of the activity surrounding it.

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Speaker 1: If he had engaged in some sort of criminal act

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Speaker 1: and she had charged him with some sort of criminal

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Speaker 1: acts sexual assault, rape, whatever it would have been, that

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Speaker 1: could have been investigated and pursued against the president of

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Speaker 1: the United States. To your point, the president is protected

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Speaker 1: from a lot of criminal acts because he doesn't do

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that could be criminal in nature.

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Speaker 1: For instance, the president can drive a car, so it

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Speaker 1: would be really difficult for the president to get a

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Speaker 1: dui and hit anybody. And to my knowledge, you know

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Speaker 1: better than me, Buck, I don't imagine they let the

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Speaker 1: president have access to guns, right, I wouldn't think the

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Speaker 1: Secret Service would allow the president to like have a

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Speaker 1: handgun around him. I could be wrong. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's funny, that's a funny que I mean,

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Speaker 1: who was the last president to be strapped? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean while they're president, don't tell me. Teddy Roosevelt

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Speaker 1: was the military. And I get it, But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: could you even do it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like if if Donald Trump loved guns and he was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I want to carry a firearm on me at all times,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they would let him do it because

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Speaker 1: of the danger that he might shoot himself. Again, have

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Speaker 1: you ever heard this discussed. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a fascinating question, but it kind of gets into

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Speaker 1: because they protect him from the ability to do that.

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Speaker 1: But we're talking about weapons protecting yourself, and you may

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: is from Axios and I tease this for a little while,

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Speaker 1: but I found this to be really interesting. Men who

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Speaker 1: own cats or dogs buck mostly voted for Trump. That is,

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Speaker 1: if you are a guy and you have a dog,

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Speaker 1: probably doesn't surprise you voted Trump. Men who have dogs

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Speaker 1: voted Trump nearly sixty forty kind of like, would you

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Speaker 1: expect that to be true? Oh? Absolutely, but I would

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Speaker 1: all throw in there. If you broke the dogs down

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Speaker 1: by breed, Oh, let's see, you would see substantial patterns

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Speaker 1: of what kind of you know, I think if bigger

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Speaker 1: the dogs, you're like, bigger the dog, more likely you

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Speaker 1: voted for Trump. You know, my brother has a Pomeranian

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Speaker 1: and one of our jokes is that the Pomeranian case

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Speaker 1: that he carries as an elderly Pomeranian and very elderly now,

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Speaker 1: and the case that he's carried around in also doubles

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Speaker 1: as a fantastic concealed carry bag. So there's there's you know,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect it with the pomp, But yes, I

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Speaker 1: think labrador. If you're a labrador owner, a Golden Retriever owners.

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Speaker 1: As I'm talking about John Shepherd, German Shepherd, you're you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be I think even higher. Like, I bet that's

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Speaker 1: eighty twenty Trump versus Biden voters. I bet you're right.

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Speaker 1: But even men with cats, even men who only had cats,

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Speaker 1: voted Trump fifty two forty six. Okay, what about women?

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Speaker 1: This is again, this is vindication for JD. Vance. If

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Speaker 1: you are a woman who has a cat, you voted

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Speaker 1: sixty forty for Kamala Harris. So men with dogs and

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Speaker 1: women with cats almost completely flipped how they vote. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of fascinating to me. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: intuitively a lot of you would guess it. Men with

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Speaker 1: dogs sixty forty Trump, women with cats sixty forty for Kamala.

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Speaker 1: And this is interesting, buck, If you are a woman

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Speaker 1: with a dog, you voted for Trump by five. So again,

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Speaker 1: women with dog owners pretty substantially voting Trump over Kamala

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Speaker 1: cat owners at least when it comes to women. So JD.

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Speaker 1: Vance's cat owners like single women with cats, that is

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Speaker 1: the base potentially of the Democrat party. He was actually correct.

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Speaker 1: And before anybody gets a little you know, it's the

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Speaker 1: Christmas season, Christmas spirit whatever, to feel loved and happy.

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Speaker 1: Clay is a cat owner, well this is so, this

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Speaker 1: is not something that I am a cat owner. So

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Speaker 1: don't think that you know, we understand there are some

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Speaker 1: there's always exceptions to the rule, and cat is not.

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Speaker 1: I mean Clay has more than one cat. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I have seen them scurrying around the house. It's an

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Speaker 1: awful decision the family made. By the way, if you

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Speaker 1: have dogs and cats, you voted Trump pretty substantially as well.

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Speaker 1: So it's just I am the exception here. I am.

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Speaker 1: And for those who don't know, during COVID, when all

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Speaker 1: the schools were shut down and everybody was getting pets,

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Speaker 1: I have steadfastly refused to get cats. My wife has

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Speaker 1: wanted to get cats in the house for a long time.

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Speaker 1: She had the three boys give a persuasive speech because

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Speaker 1: they were out of school, so she assigned them to

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Speaker 1: each have to do a persuasive speech on why we

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Speaker 1: should get a cat. And that is how we ended

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Speaker 1: up with two cats inside of the house. So that

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Speaker 1: in and of itself is kind of a I think

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Speaker 1: it fulfills a lot of the expectations that would be

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Speaker 1: out there. But I did find it kind of staggering

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Speaker 1: just how true it was women with cats. Now, this

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Speaker 1: isn't broken down married versus single, so to be fair,

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Speaker 1: married couples tended to vote Trump over Kamala regardless, But

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Speaker 1: it is kind of interesting that the stereotype completely fills there.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you have bet buck that dog owning men would

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly vote Trump and that cat owning women would be

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Speaker 1: more likely to vote Kamala. I mean, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a mirror image of how amazing that is. This is

646
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Speaker 1: the stereotype that's already out there, and stereotypes sometimes exists

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Speaker 1: based on a snapshot of perception, which is based on

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Speaker 1: a snapshot of day. So yeah, it's not a not

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Speaker 1: a shock at all. I do wish that we had

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Speaker 1: breed breakdown because I think that would be fascinating. I

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Speaker 1: would guess, I don't know, I would guess pit bull

652
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Speaker 1: ownership probably fifty to fifty Democrat and Republican. I would get,

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Speaker 1: you know, you get into some of these. I think

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Speaker 1: that some of these, well some some pit bulls are

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Speaker 1: owned by minority groups. Is that what you're kind of

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Speaker 1: getting at with the disproportioned pit bulls disproportionately. Again, this

657
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Speaker 1: is very generally speaking, but disproportionally, pit bulls tend to

658
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Speaker 1: have minority owners, which is also part of why sometimes

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Speaker 1: the discussion about pit bulls get so heated because people

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Speaker 1: feel very heated about their positions about you know, whether

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Speaker 1: these dogs are more of a public safety risk than

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Speaker 1: other dogs. So yeah, you know, because people feel like

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Speaker 1: they're being singled out or they're being called out for

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Speaker 1: their dog choice. I think, you know, doodles, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I fund my producer Alli jumped in, totally true. No,

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Speaker 1: no guy, no like sing No guys walking around with

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Speaker 1: his doodle who's single. There's always a girlfriend or a

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Speaker 1: or you know, or a husband whatever. But there's always

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Speaker 1: another partner in the mix for a guy walking in doodle.

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Speaker 1: And then you get into the more exotic pets, where

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Speaker 1: I think that would be a tougher one to like

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Speaker 1: if you happen to own more. You know, ferret is

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Speaker 1: a very popular pet, Like a large percentage of the

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Speaker 1: people that don't have a dog or a cat, Ferret,

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Speaker 1: I think for a mammal is number number three or

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Speaker 1: number four most common pet. I've actually done some research

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Speaker 1: into this because I kind of wanted to get a

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Speaker 1: pet fox for a while, but I've since found out

679
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: they stink and they like they actually scent everything, and

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Speaker 1: they want to dig through your living room floor, so

681
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Speaker 1: that's not good. But yeah, a lot of people have ferrets.

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Speaker 1: Do you know there's more tigers in Texas than in

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Speaker 1: the wild. We're turning into the kid from Jeremy, but

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Speaker 1: you know that you would head weighs eight pounds. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about this is a this is a stat

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Speaker 1: that is accurate as stats should be. There are more

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Speaker 1: tigers in captivity in Texas than tigers that live in

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Speaker 1: the wild. That's a pretty that's a pretty wild stat. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he ties in because your point on, I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about how many mammals are actually pets, right, obviously dogs, cats.

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Speaker 1: I would have not guessed that ferret is on the

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Speaker 1: top of any of these lists. I wonder how ferret

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Speaker 1: voters would What do you think snake owners snake Ownerala.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we have a couple of wonderful patriotic snake

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Speaker 1: owners listening. I think snake owners break for Democrat eight.

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Speaker 1: So I actually I don't know that I disagree, but

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think through do you think male? The

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Speaker 1: only thing that I would push back on there is

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Speaker 1: potentially I tend to think men have more snakes than

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Speaker 1: more snakes than women do. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that. If I've ever been on a date and

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Speaker 1: the woman and said I have a pet snake at home,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, if there's a second data,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't date. I wouldn't date a woman who was

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Speaker 1: at a pet snake. I've said this before, like she

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Speaker 1: would have to be so incredibly hot in order for

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Speaker 1: me to even be willing to I wouldn't be able

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Speaker 1: to sleep at night. If you the snakes always get

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Speaker 1: out this is They're always like hey, I never would

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Speaker 1: have thought, you know, how did this? Everyone who has

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Speaker 1: a snake, the snake escapes the cage, the the the

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Speaker 1: captivity at some point and is just loose. And I had,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had a nightmare the other night buck

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Speaker 1: woke up screaming, woke my wife up, wife up because

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Speaker 1: I was dreaming that I was about to be struck

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Speaker 1: by a rattlesnake. I'm very anti snake. I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of nightmares about snakes. I don't like them. They

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Speaker 1: make me uncomfortable even thinking about them. So the idea

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Speaker 1: that someone would have a snake and I would be

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Speaker 1: in that house, I couldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't stand it. I would cancel that

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Speaker 1: relationship immediately. This is how comfortable we are with this audience.

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Speaker 1: Clay is now sharing his dreams about snakes with all true.

724
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Speaker 1: I woke my wife up screaming that I was about

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Speaker 1: to be eaten by a about to be struck by

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Speaker 1: Ali points out, Ali's always producer. Alley's always got your back.

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Speaker 1: She points out right away that you know the weakness,

728
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Speaker 1: the the kryptonite of Indiana Jones if you will. That's true.

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Speaker 1: So you're in good company with that one. You're in

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Speaker 1: good company either more. I've seen and been around alligators.

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Speaker 1: By the way, alligators don't but I think alligators are

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Speaker 1: kind of cool. I've seen a fair amount of alligators

733
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Speaker 1: now since I moved to Florida. Snakes, though, still freak

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Speaker 1: me out a little bit. And they're an invasive species

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Speaker 1: down here. The Burmese python big problem. So people have

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Speaker 1: to go. Do you see the megaviral clip of the

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Speaker 1: alligator carrying the insanely large python. I think it was

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Speaker 1: in the Everglades. Yes, yeah, that concept of this is

739
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: like when kids sit around and one day we'll be

740
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: having these conversations with your soon to be son a lot.

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00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: I've had them a lot over the year years. Boys

742
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: in particular like to just sit around and think about

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Speaker 1: which animal would win if two animals fight. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is a never ending concept that they did that.

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Speaker 1: On the Joe Rogan Show. Joe Rogan started talk. I

746
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: saw this was he's like a gorilla or a bear,

747
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: you know. They had this old conversation. So, but the

748
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Speaker 1: but the video of the alligator carrying the huge python,

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Speaker 1: I don't wreck. I don't know that we have seen

750
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Speaker 1: an invasive species like the python in modern American history.

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Speaker 1: It's taken over in the Everglades. I mean that there

752
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: are tens of big problems for native now, for native species, yeah, uh,

753
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: you know the elit you know, a lot of the

754
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: bird bird eggs. The problem for alligators actually, so they'll uh,

755
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: they'll constrict and then and then eat smaller alligators. Let's

756
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Speaker 1: get into the Christmas stuff here in the mailbag for

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Speaker 1: a second. We've got our VIPs Clayandbuck dot Com to

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Speaker 1: become a VI p It's a great gift to yourself

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00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: this Christmas holiday. Paul writes in Vip Paul best action

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Speaker 1: movie True Lies. I like True Lies. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Paul it breaks the top ten for me, but you know,

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Speaker 1: to each his own, I mean, taste his taste, and

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Speaker 1: you know you're allowed to be a huge True Lies fan.

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Speaker 1: I don't even think True Lies is like top fifteen

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Speaker 1: or twenty. I take it up with Vip Paul. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's gonna feel a little, a little, a little

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Speaker 1: burned right now by this one. I don't know. True

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Speaker 1: Lies doesn't make the top the top list for me.

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Speaker 1: I will say it was the only thing I've ever

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Speaker 1: seen Roseanne's ex husband in where I thought he was good.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know what I mean? What's that guy's name?

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00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: Tom Arnold? Tom Arnold, Tom Allen? Whoam Allen? Yes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jack writes in I thumb up, I thump sorry. I

774
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Speaker 1: give a thumbs up to Bill O'Reilly's comment on the

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00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Alistair sim version being the best. Have watched it annually

776
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: for decades, still brings a smile at the end. I'm

777
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Speaker 1: adding this to my list Clay. I think a great

778
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: version of a Christmas Carol would be a lot of fun.

779
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: This this is a good one, and I should have

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00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: thought of it. Mark writes in Best Action Movie, hands Down, Braveheart,

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00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: Mel Gibson, this is I consider that his your that's

782
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: my favorite movie of all time. But I consider that

783
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: historical historical epic, not an action movie as too much

784
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: others a lot of story, there's history, there's yeah, yeah,

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00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: so that's the yeah. Gladiator, Yeah, I think Gladiators historical

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00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: epic because it's really I mean, some of these movies

787
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: we're talking about, like if you watch Commando or Predator,

788
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: some of the Stallone and Schwarzenegger stuff, the whole movie

789
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 1: is just an excuse for action, Like there's no real

790
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: plot or dialogue worthy of the name. So I think

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00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: those other movies in Braveheart won Best Picture, Gladiator won

792
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: Best Picture, So to me, those are historical epics. Now,

793
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: Rambo wasn't nominated for Best Picture, even as fine of

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00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: a film as it was. Yes, and neither was Commando.

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Speaker 1: Even though you can watch that movie one hundred times,

796
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Speaker 1: it never gets old. Having Merry Christmas, everybody, We'll be

797
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: talking to you more obviously tomorrow. Rest of this week

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Speaker 1: plays Action, Got you solo on Friday, but send us

799
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: Christmas thoughts, Christmas cheer, all the above, talk back on

800
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: the iHeart app if you want to do that, and Yeah,

801
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go hid to Ginger check them. So it's

802
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. It's been breaking down everything in the

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Speaker 1: world of the upcoming Trump administration, and we are joined

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Speaker 1: now by our good friend Bill O'Reilly. He's got a

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Speaker 1: brand new column out, got a brand new book on

806
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: the New York Times bestseller list, a lot going on

807
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: in his world. And Bill, let's start with this. You've

808
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: known Trump for a while. It seems like Trump right

809
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: now is maybe the most confident, comfortable version of Trump

810
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Speaker 1: that we have ever seen. All of the big tech

811
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: CEOs are lining up, all the big CEOs in general

812
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: are lining up to come to mar A Lago. There

813
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: seems to be very limited resistance to him. How would

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00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: you assess Trump as a leader compared to how you

815
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: have seen him in the past? And do you agree

816
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: three that he feels incredibly comfortable as he prepares to

817
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Speaker 1: step into the role of president again next month.

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Speaker 2: Well, he won and it's all about winning. So he

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Speaker 2: not only did he did Kamala Harris, he defeated the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party, he defeated the corrupt media. He defeated the

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Speaker 2: midgets overseas. Are you allowed to say midgets?

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Speaker 1: The word we're bringing it back. We're bringing it back

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Speaker 1: to be fair. Bill, You got to be careful. It's

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Speaker 1: a guy who's like six ' nine. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what qualifies, but keep going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying mental midgets, but the word midget, you

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Speaker 2: don't hear it anymore.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be offensive, you know me, I'd

830
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Speaker 2: like everybody to be woke. But he won across the board.

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Speaker 2: That he ran the table, as they say in billiards.

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Speaker 2: And so the surprise is that he's not gloating person say,

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Speaker 2: and I have to amend that by saying, I've known

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Speaker 2: him for thirty five years. Can you imagine that thirty

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Speaker 2: five years?

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Speaker 1: And when he was with me, like going to.

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Speaker 2: The nickname and the matter of Yankee games, I never

838
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: saw him bloat ever. But he wasn't in politics. Then

839
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Speaker 2: he's a business guy. But he has a tendency to

840
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Speaker 2: do two things. Get angry and react emotionally from the anger,

841
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Speaker 2: and then when things go his way, he gets a

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Speaker 2: little houghty and you did not You're absolutely crept in

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Speaker 2: a press conference, Yestery, you did not see that. And

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Speaker 2: I believe it's two reasons. And I can't tell you

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Speaker 2: anymore because they can't violate confidences. But I know this

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Speaker 2: to be true. He's looking to his legacy now. He

847
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Speaker 2: wants to do the best job he could ever do,

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Speaker 2: so he goes down in history alongside people like Reagan, Teddy, Roosevelt,

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Speaker 2: Mine and presidents who succeeded and so whether or not

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Speaker 2: that does a date that is affecting him day to day,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not around him, but I know

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Speaker 2: that the ultimate goal of Donald Trump now is to

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Speaker 2: have a very successful four years and conduct himself in

854
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Speaker 2: a way that catapults him into the history books.

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Speaker 1: Bill, you nailed what was going to happen in advance.

856
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: I think Clay might have been out that day, But

857
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Speaker 1: when we talked about Daniel Penny and the verdict coming,

858
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Speaker 1: I was concerned. You were sanguine about the fact that

859
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Speaker 1: this jury was going to see through it. There was

860
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Speaker 1: no wavering in your assessment. So I wanted to give

861
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Speaker 1: you full credit on that but it seems that this

862
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: is clearly a turning of the tide in some way

863
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: when it comes to the way New Yorkers feel about

864
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Speaker 1: crime and criminal justice. Donald Trump invited Penny, as we

865
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Speaker 1: know Daniel Penny, to attend the Army Navy game with him.

866
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Speaker 1: So this is a national level conversation that's happening. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that it is symbolic of a new direction

868
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Speaker 1: perhaps for New York City? And do you think Eric Adams,

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Speaker 1: the Mayor of New York may play a role in this,

870
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Speaker 1: because he's been saying some interesting stuff now and we

871
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: know he's got the FEDS after him and Trump might

872
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Speaker 1: help him.

873
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: Eric Adams is done in New York. He's not going

874
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Speaker 2: to be the next mayor. There's a variety of reasons why.

875
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a bad man, but he could

876
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: not reverse the horrible policies of build the blasiom, and

877
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: things actually got worse in the city under Adams' tenure.

878
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Speaker 2: Is New York changing a little bit? Manhattan is changing

879
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: a little bit, not as much as the suburbs and

880
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: the countryside and upstate New York. They're going red, but

881
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: the city is dominated by the demoocratic machine all the

882
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 2: way back to Boss Tweed, and I think he had

883
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Speaker 2: a show on wor Boss Tweed did anyway in about

884
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Speaker 2: thirty five years ago. Anyway, you know your New York history.

885
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: He ran the city and Chester. Arthur became president because

886
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Speaker 2: of Tweed, and the machine still prevails in the five boroughs,

887
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Speaker 2: with the exceptions Staten Island. This that island is kind

888
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: of independent. Anyway, there's a long winded answer to say, no,

889
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: the culture has not changed. The far left culture that

890
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: dominates Albany and Manhattan is still in place. They are

891
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: on the run because things are so bad.

892
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: Bill so Buck and I were just talking an hour

893
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: one that the Trump resistance appears to have collapsed. Even

894
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: if you go back to twenty sixteen when he got elected,

895
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: there was almost immediately this idea of, oh, we're going

896
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: to oppose him. We'll do the Women's March. Yeah, resistance

897
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: was a big thing. I just saw where AOC lost

898
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: her bid to be elevated in the Democrat pantheon of leadership.

899
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: There doesn't even seem to be Yeah, Nancy Pelosi got

900
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: to win, even though I think she's in a hospital

901
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: in Europe right now. There doesn't seem to be really

902
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: even an adversary that is anywhere near on the level

903
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: of Trump in the Democrat Party right now, how much

904
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: can Trump get done and how quickly? And how much

905
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: different are we looking at the situation in twenty twenty

906
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: five compared to twenty seventeen.

907
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh huge. In seventeen. Donald Trump didn't know what he

908
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: was doing, and he'll admit it. And he brought in

909
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: people like Rex to Lissen to me Secretary of State,

910
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: who couldn't possibly do the job. And what's his name

911
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 2: is Attorney General Sessions? Yeah, ridiculous. They were ridiculous. Now

912
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 2: and this is fascinating. And you ask a very good question.

913
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: The way that the Trump administration is going to run

914
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: for at least two years, and I say too, because

915
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: it depends how successful they are, is exactly the way

916
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran his administrations. And when I said

917
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: that to Trump himself, I don't think he knew that.

918
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 2: And I said, look, he need to read Confronting the Presidents.

919
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 2: I know you don't read too many books. He saw

920
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 2: the documentary on News Nation Trump then when we discussed

921
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: it extensively, but he read the book. And I said,

922
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: when Roosevelt came in. The depression was just hammering everybody

923
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: in the country, and Herbert Ruver was one of the

924
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 2: biggest failed presidents of all timing guy had no clothe

925
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Speaker 2: So what Roosevelt did was he hired his buddies from

926
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Speaker 2: Harvard and Columbia Universities. They had a little cabinet in

927
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Speaker 2: the White House. They didn't even have offices. These guys.

928
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 2: They just showed up at the White House. They made

929
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: all the decisions, and then the decisions came out from

930
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 2: the White House into the departments, and the department has

931
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: executed those decisions. It's exactly what this is going to

932
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 2: happen now. But it didn't happen four years ago. There

933
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: there were fiefdoms that were making crazy decisions. And Trump

934
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: was consulted, but he was so overwhelmed by the whole

935
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: scenario as any human being would be with no political

936
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: background whatsoever. Wasn't even an intern for any political person.

937
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: But Roosevelt ran that government for four terms. Remember he's

938
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: on four terms basically by himself with his guys, and

939
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: they said do this, and the people did it. And

940
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen now, which is why Trump

941
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: nominated all of these loyalists to him, because they're not

942
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: going to have any power at all, none.

943
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Speaker 1: Bill Uh. I'm also wondering if you could tell us

944
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: what you think if you had a ninety day and

945
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: maybe the kind of ninety second version of the nine plan,

946
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: if you will, a ninety day plan for Trump, because

947
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: it does feel like right now the opening. He's got

948
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: the pieces lined up around him, and the opening is

949
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: bigger than it has been. The mandate is more definitive

950
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: than it has been ever before for Trump to do

951
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: big things and get things done. What does the first

952
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: ninety days have to look like for the right tone,

953
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: the right accomplishments to be set.

954
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: Another good question, Zori. A deal in place for ceasefire

955
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: in Ukraine. I understand it's a backdoor deal. He's got

956
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: to get the hostages out. And Biden did not help

957
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: him Friday by allowing ten billion dollars to flow into

958
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: the Mulla's hands, because the Mullas are the key to

959
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: get those hostages out. And Biden is such an idiot,

960
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be disrespectful, but he

961
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: is an idiot that he undermined the hostage released by

962
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: giving those savages in Ron that money. But anyway, Trump

963
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: is going to be able to tamp it down into Ukraine.

964
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: Don't know what's going to happen in the Middle East.

965
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: He's going to be able to seal up the border

966
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 2: very quickly. And if Claudia Schanbaum, the new President Mexico,

967
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: doesn't cooperate, Trump can break her economy in two weeks

968
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 2: two weeks. That's why Justin Trudeau I tailed it down

969
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 2: to Marlago because he doesn't want that to happen in Canada,

970
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 2: so the border will be solidified. Then they've had to

971
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: back hoe into all Right, how are we going to

972
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: track down these criminal aliens? And my commentary is, if

973
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: anyone does not cooperate with you, a mister president, you

974
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 2: arrest them your pan BONDI put the head of the FBI,

975
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: which will probably be Cash Bettel, on a plane, lands

976
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: in California, puts the handcuffs on the governor if necessary,

977
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: of that state, and you charge and indict him. You

978
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: do that one and that whole sanctuary city collapses, Everything collapses.

979
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 2: They're going to have to do that, maybe to wool

980
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: in Boston, maybe to the San Diego people, maybe to

981
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: the la people. But that's what you do. And so

982
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: I think that he's got a feel to play that

983
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: can be very, very successful, very quickly. But he has

984
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: to be disciplined and he has to tell the American

985
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: people what he's doing and why he's doing it.

986
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Speaker 1: Bill, what do you think we should be aware of

987
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: that maybe we're not contemplating as we get closer to

988
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: the inauguration. Is there anything that you think is a

989
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: dirty trick that Democrats are going to play, anything that

990
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: you think Trump should be leery of, because again we're

991
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that they really haven't been able

992
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: to create any sort of obstacle to him. Is there

993
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: anything you're expecting them to attempt early on that he

994
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: should be really on top of it.

995
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: There's no leadership in the Democratic Party at all, none.

996
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: There's no one in charge. So that's a huge advantage.

997
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has to watch Robert Kennedy Junior. I don't

998
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: think he's gonna make it okay. So I'm sure he's

999
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: got a backup for Kennedy because he had a backup

1000
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 2: for Gates. I knew right away the Gates wasn't gonna

1001
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: make it, And I said, man, Pam BONDI will be

1002
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: And all of my commentary, by the way, is on

1003
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly dot com. That's where we live, and you

1004
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: know we're ninety percent accurate. So r K. Junior's not

1005
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna get down. I don't know about Higgsmith.

1006
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's other stuff are swirling around there,

1007
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: but he hasn't got a fair shot in the media.

1008
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Hagg said he's gonna have to sell himself in to

1009
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: the Senator's Republican senators. It's a tough sell. He has

1010
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 2: no experience, and the Pentagon's the largest corporation in the world.

1011
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: Tough sell. So Trump that's where his deficis, if you

1012
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: want to call him that lie. But the Democratic Party

1013
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: they got nothing right now. They're on the run. They're collapsing.

1014
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: And if Trump is successful, JD. Vanis is gonna walk

1015
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: in in four years.

1016
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, go to Bill. One more for you,

1017
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Speaker 1: quick one before you go. If you have to tell

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Speaker 1: us what your favorite Christmas movie is, no hedging, What

1019
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Speaker 1: is your favorite Christmas movie?

1020
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Speaker 2: A Christmas Carol? Alice Stair sim s I am the

1021
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: second one in the series by far the best.

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Speaker 1: I'm adding into the list, wife, and I gonna watch

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