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Speaker 1: It was a tale of two halves in the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: home opener Sunday against the Giant's Cardinals. At one point,

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Speaker 1: we're up twenty nothing at the half. However, they fall

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Speaker 1: thirty one twenty eight in the final score. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about it all a full breakdown here on

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Speaker 1: Morning Scramble, presented by Verizon, alongside Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman.

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Speaker 1: I'm Danny Surrek. Thanks so much for joining us. Those

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Speaker 1: of you who are on the live stream with us.

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Speaker 1: Got a nice little setup this year.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's pretty fancy. I will catch it. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 3: we stepped up from the desk. Now we got two helmets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to have us helmets.

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Speaker 2: Last week.

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Speaker 1: No wow, Jody, you joined us this week. Now you're

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Speaker 1: back for the season. We had to step up our games.

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Speaker 4: This is what happens. Craig does not write down we

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Speaker 4: saw title. He writes down an opinion, and we boot him.

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Speaker 5: Really adamant about not giving out a song title.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting.

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Speaker 1: The bar is losing, Jody. We'll get to that later

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Speaker 1: on in the show. Let's go ahead and start with

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Speaker 1: how the game started, because it was fantastic, especially on offense.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals three touchdowns, which is three more than Week

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Speaker 1: one in Washington. They controlled the game. They had a

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Speaker 1: great run game. With the exception of that missed field

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Speaker 1: goal the first drive, Cardinals scored on every other drive. Jody,

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Speaker 1: how did the offense control the first half so seamlessly?

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was fantastic the whole first half of

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Speaker 5: football from the Cardinals. But if you're asking me Danny

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Speaker 5: offensively specifically, what's interesting is the first few throws were

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Speaker 5: a couple overthrows, right. I feel like Josh Dobbs was

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Speaker 5: feeling his way, but that quickly changed to him being

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Speaker 5: right on the money and he got Zach Ertz involved

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Speaker 2: Really.

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Speaker 5: Ertz was targeted a lot early on Hollywood Brown, Trey

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Speaker 5: McBride and the pass to Michael Wilson, which was a

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Speaker 5: big play in that first half. I mean, I was

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Speaker 5: very impressed with Josh Dobbs, his accuracy, his ability to

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Speaker 5: have poise under a little bit of pressure. Sure, but honestly,

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Speaker 5: and I think that that, you know, Danny, is a big.

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Speaker 2: Key to why he was successful.

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Speaker 5: Also, but the few times that he did have someone

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Speaker 4: He took a couple hits as well in the pocket

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Speaker 4: and still threw the ball right on the money most

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Speaker 4: which we did not see as much in the first

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Speaker 4: game against Washington. He spoke on Wednesday before the game

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Speaker 4: and said, it's a night and day difference between Week

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Speaker 4: one and week two. It was clearly on full display yesterday.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a true difference. Let's take a closer look

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Speaker 1: at Josh Dobbs's stats from that game. Twenty one of

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Speaker 1: thirty one, a passing and a rushing touchdown, and that

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Speaker 1: we heard from head coach Jonathan Gannon. What this staff

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Speaker 1: That's what we can assume led to the decision of

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Speaker 1: on display. That was nice to see. It's not Kyler

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, what Josh Dobbs did there was completely unexpected.

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Speaker 5: You do not see that every day. You do not

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Speaker 5: And I wouldn't call it a stealmate because he definitely

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Speaker 5: Kyler obviously a different player. He can usually run around people.

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Speaker 5: But from Josh Dobbs, it fed into the energy that

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Speaker 2: Talking about the first half, and that's just why.

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Speaker 4: And it's the ability to know that you have a

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a difference in jobs using his legs.

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Speaker 1: He was having quicker releases, which was an issue Week

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Speaker 4: Difference definitely was evident and to the relationship as well.

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Speaker 4: In that first game against Washington, it seemed like zach

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Speaker 4: against the Giants, he was swinging the ball around. Trey

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just the offense that dominated in the first half.

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Speaker 1: The defense showed up as well for Arizona, holding the

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Speaker 1: That was without your leader, Buddha Baker, who was suffering

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Speaker 5: I mean to me, a lot of guys did in

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Speaker 5: you can't replace that leadership, you can't replace the player.

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Speaker 2: But I liked what.

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Speaker 5: Sassary Andre Sascheray did in this game. Jalen Thompson did

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Speaker 5: but I don't know that anyone is underrating Jalen Thompson anymore,

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Speaker 5: so I won't go there with him. But he was

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Speaker 5: the first half, they were making it really hard in

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Speaker 5: a pass that Jones completed to a receiver. Two guys

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Speaker 5: again that was what was there in that first half,

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Speaker 2: So, you know, with Buddha, hopefully.

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Speaker 2: But he's the.

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Speaker 5: Only question I have Danny and Zach is what would

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Speaker 4: You know what you're gonna get out of your captain,

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Speaker 3: But when I was talking with Kaizer Woods post.

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Speaker 3: You get a little bit complecent.

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Speaker 4: It's natural instinct to look at the scoreboard and say,

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Speaker 4: win the big games. And the Cardinals unfortunately did not

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Speaker 5: I'm want to tell you those comments kind of surprised me.

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Speaker 5: Did they surprise you? I mean, because this is a veteran,

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Speaker 5: and I mean I think anyone, I mean, twenty to

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Speaker 2: The effort was there.

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Speaker 5: It's just if there was any level of comfort, you know,

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Speaker 4: The effort I think was there, and I know you

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Speaker 4: the very end. But the fatigue definitely could say it

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, did crumble tail of two halves? Because New

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Speaker 2: Gosh back in eighteen.

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Speaker 2: But so what switched?

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Speaker 2: It just didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: Kavon Wallace also spoke about postgame it said that it's

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Speaker 4: That's all he could do for himself personally. But he

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Speaker 1: You talk about fatigue. Final few possessions for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: Again looking back, you had eight fifty one left the

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Speaker 2: A lot of noise. You had the two Falstar penalties.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they weren't getting the blocking, they weren't running

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Speaker 2: In that second half. Zach, and I mean for you,

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Speaker 5: If the offense is able to sustain, you know, drive,

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Speaker 2: So Drew pets and Nkraalis, they're both looking today.

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Speaker 5: At what could have been different, because there's culpability everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Over the last two games, the Cardinals have been outscored

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Speaker 3: That's what they need to focus on. That's the next

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Speaker 4: And they got a tough opponent and the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: There is a little bit of hope since you could

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Speaker 5: You think both of these games were so close point wise,

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Speaker 2: So that's what's the killer.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at the positives. We've talked about a lot

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Speaker 4: Now, Okay, they make a return, they make the return,

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Speaker 2: This is a test of the hand.

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Speaker 1: Ready, Zach, You're ready, so you go first on who

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Speaker 4: I think as much he had a great game as well,

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Speaker 3: He did do well.

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Speaker 4: He did not have those drops that he'd had in

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Speaker 3: You're hopeful for what these next couple weeks are going

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Speaker 1: Dobbs Arth's connection was much stronger. Dobbs inches away on

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Speaker 2: And this is another connection for.

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Speaker 1: You've got beautiful handwriting, Jody, I do.

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Speaker 2: I said, no one ever, but yeah, it's great trying

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Speaker 1: this game. Zach, what was your turning point for the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and their thirty one to twenty eight loss to.

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Speaker 4: The Giant Sunday, Yes, sir, we'll see where go down

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Speaker 4: to the unfortunate stuff and the cough starts coming out.

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Speaker 4: I would have to say it was a mix of

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Speaker 4: two and I was deciding between one, and we were

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Speaker 4: talking about a little bit here in studio before we

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Speaker 4: went live on the stream. The first play in that

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Speaker 4: third quarter, you start off strong for the New York Giants,

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Speaker 4: fifty eight yard deep ball to Jalen Hyatt, his first

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Speaker 4: catch in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: As well, might as well add.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals did bounce back and that was the start

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Speaker 4: of a seventy five yard drive for the Giants, and

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Speaker 4: they were able to get that first score on the

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones rushing touchdown. They were able to bounce back

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Speaker 4: though on offense and that was the past to Hollywood

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Speaker 4: Brown that the Cardinals were able to put up on

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Speaker 4: the board.

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Speaker 3: But going to the next.

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Speaker 4: Drive, Kaiser White takes down Daniel Jones would have been

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Speaker 4: the second sack of the game and stripped away because

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Speaker 4: of a penalty by rookie Dante Stills. I know the

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Speaker 4: excitement from Dante Stills is going in for the tackle.

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Speaker 4: Was searching for his first tackle in the NFL in

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Speaker 4: his first game was a scratch against Washington Commanders and

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Speaker 4: he gets hit with the penalty and I fell. From

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Speaker 4: that moment, you could see everyone kind of throw their

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Speaker 4: arms up. Kaizer White had his hands on his head,

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Speaker 4: Chris Barnes had his hands to the side. You could

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Speaker 4: say that you could tell that the energy was starting

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Speaker 4: to shift, and that's what the team is spoken about about,

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Speaker 4: the energy lowering a little bit. It was those careless

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Speaker 4: penalties that that hurt the Cardinals in Week one against

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Speaker 4: the Commanders and kind of came to bite them one

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Speaker 4: more time against the Giants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting turning point of the game. That's one

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Speaker 5: of them, for sure. I look in general, and I

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Speaker 5: say again, a lot of moments in that fourth quarter

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Speaker 5: where you could have just converted on one play, either

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Speaker 5: on offense or defense.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: But you know, since we're talking about a call, what

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Speaker 5: about I had this note on the Hollywood Brown.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Hollywood Brown, but.

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Speaker 5: Adaie Jackson was called for PI and then it was overturned.

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Speaker 5: And so that was one moment that I thought was interesting.

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Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown was called for a block in the back.

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Speaker 5: There were just the series of calls where you're like

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Speaker 5: the game got out of rhythm a little bit. But

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Speaker 5: I can't remember Jackson was holding Brown or now, but

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Speaker 5: I believe he was. He was actually holding him and

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Speaker 5: they overturned it. Anyway, So I'm not really sure what

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Speaker 5: happened there. Next thing, you know, that was at the

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Speaker 5: start of the fourth quarter. Next thing, you know, the

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Speaker 5: Giants go down and score a thirteenth play drive. That

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Speaker 5: to me was the killer, that drive at the start

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Speaker 5: of that fourth quarter, and.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones started to use his legs more.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, Dante still's that was an unfortunate

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Speaker 5: penalty for sure, He'll learn from that. Oh yeah, that

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Speaker 5: was a big improvement, by the way, let's get a

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Speaker 5: positive in there. Where big improvement from last week. I

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Speaker 5: know you guys both talked on all of your shows

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Speaker 5: about cleaning up some of the penalties that were a

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Speaker 5: result of being overly aggressive. So I think they're making

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Speaker 5: some strides there. These calls are also sometimes a little

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Speaker 5: bit ticky.

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Speaker 2: Tack either way.

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Speaker 5: You see it sometimes especially on the quarterback. So gosh,

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Speaker 5: I mean again, Daniel Jones using his legs and them

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Speaker 5: not being able to contain him in certain moments. It's

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Speaker 5: not a turning point, but it's also for me kind

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Speaker 5: of just a a big part of why they were

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Speaker 5: able to continue.

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Speaker 1: Drives last week. Nine penalties one hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 1: yards for the Cardinals this week eight penalties for fifty seven.

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Speaker 1: So while the yardage is significantly better, those penalties, as

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Speaker 1: you both were just talking about, are still significant moments

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Speaker 1: that changed the game. That Dante Still's penalty, Giants went

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Speaker 1: on to score that drive, That Hollywood Brown penalty negated

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Speaker 1: a really nice pass and play that Trey McBride made

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Speaker 1: look really good, and that's worth The frustrating part is

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Speaker 1: while we're not seeing those personal fouls the way we

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Speaker 1: did in Week one, it doesn't seem as aggressive. The

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Speaker 1: penalties are still happening at really opportune times, and the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are just shooting themselves in the foot. Think about

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Speaker 1: the final drive, multiple false starts. You shouldn't be having

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Speaker 1: pre snat penalties.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, another false start like Elijah Wilkinson was called for

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Speaker 5: two in a row, which was really really it out

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Speaker 5: on the last one, But even before that, the drive

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Speaker 5: before that, Yell Defroholt was called on a false start. Again,

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Speaker 5: that was a drive that was key these late.

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Speaker 2: I think again, it is a young team.

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Speaker 5: Some are young age wise, others are young experience in

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Speaker 5: the NFL wise, and then other you know, and then frankly,

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Speaker 5: a lot of these guys are playing together for the

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Speaker 5: first time, so I think what we didn't in the

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Speaker 5: first half when everything seemed so much more scripted and

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Speaker 5: so much we had the momentum rolling in your favor.

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Speaker 5: Second half, when you had to bounce back and you

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Speaker 5: had to come off of some adversity, it got a

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Speaker 5: lot harder, but you're right, some key penalties again. I

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Speaker 5: think that'll get better. But it is also game to game.

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Speaker 5: Next week, they're gonna come out extremely physical. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: that'll be a focus against the Cowboys and you'll see,

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Speaker 5: you know, where is that fine line and how can

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Speaker 5: they kind of control that and yet play well.

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Speaker 1: We finally have a segment title for this final segment.

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Speaker 3: Shout out Chadburns.

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Speaker 1: Chadburns our lovely illustrator. So we're gonna write down on

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Speaker 1: the whiteboard a song that's how we're feeling after the game,

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Speaker 1: and this segment is now called Songbirds, which is very clever.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, Chad.

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Speaker 5: Now you have to it had a lot of songs

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Speaker 5: in my head, by the way, did you Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: had to narrow it down good or bad? Well, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean a lot of like heartbreak related.

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Speaker 2: Draw another picture, give this shot the artist Danny Artist.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, this might be worse than my cowboy hat

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Speaker 1: for Zam and Collins last.

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Speaker 5: Week, Like nineties rap is going to come out here.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's see what you saw.

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Speaker 5: Well, a couple came to mind, and they both were

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Speaker 5: by Rob Bass.

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Speaker 2: And this is so. The one is joy and pain.

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Speaker 5: Because I felt so much joy in the first half

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Speaker 5: and so much pain after the game. And it's funny

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Speaker 5: because actually they had a concert at State Farm in

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Speaker 5: January that's at the end of the twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Season.

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Speaker 5: And the other one, but again raw Base was it

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Speaker 5: takes two because it takes two halves, Rob Base, you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be good at this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So joy and pain that was my That's a

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Speaker 2: good emotion.

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Speaker 3: So I also had two in mind. One is Whoa

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Speaker 3: by Kyle h.

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Speaker 4: Whoa because my eraser just fell off, but Whoa because

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Speaker 4: it was I think after the first half we were

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Speaker 4: all saying, whoa.

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Speaker 3: This offense is looking really good.

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Speaker 4: This defense is looking even better, and then after the

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Speaker 4: second half we said, whoa, what just happened? So I

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Speaker 4: would have to say it'd be Whoa. The other song

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Speaker 4: that came to mind. I'm not sure if you guys

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Speaker 4: know this or not. Kevin Hart, the rapper, has a

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Speaker 4: rap album and one of the songs and it's called

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Speaker 4: All Falls Down, and that's kind of how I felt

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Speaker 4: symbolized the game, and all kind of fell down towards

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Speaker 4: the last quarter, the last snap, and obviously the result

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Speaker 4: of not going the Cardinals way.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at songs about New York. However, all

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Speaker 1: the songs were positive things about York, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: really feel appropriate to choose one of the songs, so

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Speaker 1: I actually went with one Foot by walkd the Moon.

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Speaker 1: And that is a drawing of a foot and might

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Speaker 1: not look like it, it does look like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna take her ound again because our producer Jacob

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Speaker 1: is literally like, who's holding his hands?

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Speaker 2: That person needs to probably see a foot something, But

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Speaker 2: is okay?

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Speaker 1: Moving on from my lovely drawing, I love because it

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Speaker 1: seems truly like the Cardinals are putting one foot in

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Speaker 1: front of the ottom. We saw improvements from week one

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Speaker 1: to week two. I'm hoping we see improvements moving forward.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot more good to take away from

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Speaker 1: this week, which is a good sign that the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: are on the right track. Whoever, you do have a

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Speaker 1: really difficult month in opponents ahead of you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go ahead and to erase this my.

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Speaker 3: Reaction to seeing Danny's one foot.

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Speaker 5: I like that Danny feels like she can really illustrate

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Speaker 5: on this show, and she.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't anymore.

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Speaker 2: Jenny, I'm horrible at drawing things that I will not

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Speaker 2: subject to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to get our illustrator Chad Burns, who named that

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Speaker 1: segment out here, to draw on my boards for me,

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Speaker 1: that would be a great segment. Cardinals get another chance

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Speaker 1: for to get a home win back to back home games.

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Speaker 1: Next one is against the two and no Cowboys Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's a one to twenty five kickoff. It's a gnarly defense.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to see the offense that we saw

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Speaker 1: in the first half against New York. We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to see that for two halves against Dallas.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be really interesting. This team's gonna do a

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Speaker 5: lot of soul searching this week. But look, it's a

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Speaker 5: home game, and I know it went south in the

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Speaker 5: second half, but you know, hopefully it's a great effort

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Speaker 5: by this team and the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, it's it's ugly.

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Speaker 5: When you see what they did against the two New

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Speaker 5: York teams, the Giants and the Jets, outscoring them seventy

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Speaker 5: to ten, it's it's it's a little bit. You don't

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Speaker 5: see that a lot in the NFL, right and you know,

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Speaker 5: the Giants have come off the mat and the Jets

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Speaker 5: are in disarray based on what happened Aaron Rodgers, and

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Speaker 5: so maybe that's not as surprising, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm excited to see this team evolve.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to be a heck of a

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Speaker 5: lot better in a few weeks than what we're seeing

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 2: They're learning, so it's going to be exciting.

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Speaker 4: The Cardinals had to limit say Kwon Barkley and Dale Jones.

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Speaker 4: Now the offense, it's their turn to limit the Cowboys defense,

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Speaker 4: especially Micah Parsons, who's arguably one of the best defensive

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Speaker 4: players in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: game against the Giants. Looking ahead to the Cowboys. Jody

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Zachar Fishman. I'm Danni Sreg. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us on Morningsgram. But we'll see all right

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Speaker 1: here next week