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Speaker 1: Alright. I guess hi everyone. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: It is the fifteenth of July twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 1: it is time for episode eighty one of my live chat.

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Speaker 1: If you'd be so kind, please give it a thumbs

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Speaker 1: up hit subscribe if you are new here. If you've

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Speaker 1: already subscribed, and this is sort of a new MK

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Speaker 1: experience too. I do these most Thursdays. I don't only

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Speaker 1: do these when I'm Thursdays on the road, because it's

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Speaker 1: a little too hard to do them, but certainly when

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Speaker 1: I'm at home, which is the overwhelming majority of the

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Speaker 1: time we do these. I put up a thread on

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Speaker 1: the community section of the YouTube channel right here, usually

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Speaker 1: the day before on Wednesday. They people will fill it

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Speaker 1: up and then we go to answer it. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think I have it up here, Yes I do so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, let's get this party started, all right,

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Speaker 1: and there we have it. Okay. I just want to

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Speaker 1: say thanks to everyone who you know, we said it

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Speaker 1: on Monday and whatever, but I just want to say

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Speaker 1: thanks again to everyone who made last week such a

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Speaker 1: grand success. It was a big deal for the brand

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Speaker 1: and even the showtime folks who weren't really out with

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Speaker 1: us because that was a sort of a CBS sports operation.

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Speaker 1: My job is weird. I sort of serve a couple

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Speaker 1: of masters, but yet only one. It's I don't know

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Speaker 1: how explained it, but most of the showtime folks, there

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Speaker 1: was only there was only two of them out there,

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Speaker 1: and they were just sort of serving in a ancillary

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Speaker 1: production role. It was important, but it wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a Showtime thing. It was a CBS Sports thing. Even

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Speaker 1: they were reaching out and being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it was so great. So couldn't happen without you, folks.

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Speaker 1: And we're really appreciative, super appreciative. Okay, so like the

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Speaker 1: I will go for an hour and change today. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll turn this off. Okay, all right, first

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Speaker 1: question with the desk a little ower too, Jesus, here

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Speaker 1: we go. Look, what did you make of John Kavanaugh's

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Speaker 1: comment that he saw nothing in conrecgregor's performance that concerned

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Speaker 1: him and felt that McGregor was, before the injury occurred,

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Speaker 1: well placed to either finish dust in the next round

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Speaker 1: or go on to secure a victory. This was made

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Speaker 1: when talking to Laura Sanko the day after the fight.

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of times people ask me to

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Speaker 1: come on here and parse like what a teammate said

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Speaker 1: or what a coach said, as like, hey, do you

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Speaker 1: think this is accurate? When what they might be doing

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Speaker 1: is they might be saying how they feel at least

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Speaker 1: in some part, but they're probably leaving out some things

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Speaker 1: that they noticed. They're probably if you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what. I don't know that Connor McGregor's like Deontay Wilder,

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Speaker 1: maybe probably not. Dante's pretty special in that way, in

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Speaker 1: the sense that like he's incredibly sensitive, but like, you know,

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Speaker 1: how long do you keep a job working for someone

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Speaker 1: famous and powerful by criticizing them? So you know, I listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to say that the entire thing he

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Speaker 1: said was disingenuous. What I'm pointing out is whether it

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Speaker 1: independent of that, because I can't accuse a man of

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Speaker 1: being disingenuous when I don't know that he is. But

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Speaker 1: to except to say, I've seen this movie before, where

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Speaker 1: you know, years later people like, oh, yes, of course

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Speaker 1: at the time. Could that be here? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But let me just say this that before the injury occurred,

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Speaker 1: Connor was well placed to either finish Dustin in the

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Speaker 1: know what anyone could have seen that would have told

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Speaker 1: him that. Now, let me explain what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: It's not to say that I thought Connor was completely

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was ten eight. I saw it again.

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Speaker 1: And I did see a big skilled difference on the ground.

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Speaker 1: hard to know. I was very critical of Connor in

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Speaker 1: he had a really terrible knee injury, so like, you

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Speaker 1: appears that he's pretty fresh. He's been kicked by every

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Speaker 1: probably in part because of those. Probably so he was

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Speaker 1: was entirely plausible that that could have happened. But like,

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Speaker 1: But he was losing, and you could make a case

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Speaker 1: may have played a role in his injury. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that whole injury thing is interesting with Connor, isn't it,

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Speaker 1: Like these new revelations. We're gonna get to this tomorrow

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's Deontay Wilder bad. Connor makes a

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Speaker 1: all right, that's one thing. And you know, Habib takes

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, man, he was able to overcome so

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Speaker 1: it didn't even stop him in those cases. And then

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Speaker 1: the other part is it's like, dude, do you not

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Speaker 1: That's the game. The game is having the most about

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Speaker 1: Is it time for Connor to acquire the services of

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Speaker 1: Joshua Fabia? No? No, I don't think so, honestly, guys.

426
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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you could, you know, send a different

427
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Speaker 1: trainer over to Connor or whatever. I tend to think

428
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: that like whatever issues he's having, whether he's like, you know,

429
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 1: he's got some durability issues and whatever else, I don't know. Yeah,

430
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: maybe a different trainer might be a little bit different.

431
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: But like, honestly, I think the and this is a guess,

432
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: My guess is that what's really a bit of a

433
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: bigger issue for him is that I think the game's

434
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: caught up a little bit. I think the game's caught

435
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: up a lot actually, And I don't know that he.

436
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: I have this nagging suspicion and it's nothing more than

437
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: that a suspicion. Take that for what it is worth.

438
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: But I have a suspicion that, like I don't think

439
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: he wants this exactly the way that he used to.

440
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe it's too much to say at all,

441
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: but you know, I feel like he's trying to will

442
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: himself through these moments a little bit, and that he

443
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: might still be able to win doing that, but that

444
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: it's leading him to these various problems of trouble that

445
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: he has got himself into. And and you know, you

446
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: could change the trading and blah blah blah, but like internally,

447
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 1: if you don't have that same exact drive, you know,

448
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: bad things will happen. And like, dude, you know I

449
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: said it on Saturday's postfight show. Dude, that guy already won. Man,

450
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: he won big, he won huge. You know, he beat

451
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: the game basically, you know, he beat the game so

452
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: to speak. Where where you come in and just make

453
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: all the money in the world and have fame and

454
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: any you land in and generational wealth and first person

455
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: to hold too UFC title simultaneously. I mean, like, dude,

456
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: what a career if it ended today? What a career

457
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: granted if he can come back and get a huge

458
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: win and be I mean, let's put it this way,

459
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: put it become champion again. I mean that would be

460
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: just absolutely I mean, he's already a legend, but that

461
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: would just be you know, true fucking herculean stuff. But

462
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't, you know, like he already he

463
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: already won, he already won. And I have a sneaking suspicion,

464
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: a suspicion, nothing more than that, I have a sneaking

465
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: suspicion that deep inside he feels that way like I

466
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of already won. But we'll see, we'll see what

467
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: interview that you fumbled? Do you wish you could redo

468
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: I interview? I had one moment where my brain just

469
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Speaker 1: short circuit once I was trying to interview. You guys

470
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: probably never even saw it. I don't even know if

471
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: we posted it. I did one with Lucas Matisse when

472
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: he was on I think I think Lucas Matisse for

473
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: a time. You guys might not know this, but he

474
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: was an Argentinian boxer. He might be retired now. I

475
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: think he had like a horrible showing against Pakia a

476
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: few years ago. But who did he fight on that card?

477
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: He was on the Mayweather either Mayweather McGregor or I

478
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: think it was Mayweather, Uh not mean whethergether Mayweather Pacia

479
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: or Mayweather Canelo. I think it was the Mayweather Canelo

480
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: card I have a double check, but Matisa fought on that,

481
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I just couldn't get going. I just they

482
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: were like, they were like, we're gonna walk off if

483
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: you can't ask this question. I was like, just I

484
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: just for some reason, I couldn't form words coherently. It

485
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: was one of those moments when my brain truly wasn't working.

486
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: I eventually before they walked off, I got out, like,

487
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, five or six questions and it was fine.

488
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: But that was Jesus, that was terrible. And so that

489
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: was one another one that I fumbled. Probably had a

490
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: few of those. I mean, in general, I kind of

491
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: do my homework. I mean, some have been better than others.

492
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 1: I'm no, that's probably the worst one. Again. I've had

493
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: interviews that may have been boring or you know, but

494
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: like they weren't. They weren't like calamities. That was a

495
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: near catastrophe that I avoided. Uh Luke, what happened? When

496
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: was the Latina Boody that walked by when you were

497
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: about to ask Ryan Hall a question of the prefight scrum?

498
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: Really so good? At made you lose what you were

499
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: going to say. No, I got a phone call from

500
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: my wife and uh, we had a rough week last week.

501
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: I haven't told anybody this. I'll just tell you guys now.

502
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: The day that I went to Vegas, we had to

503
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: put our cat down. In fact, so you know, it

504
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: was two days later I think at that point, and

505
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: there was just my wife was dealing with a lot

506
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: and it was bad, and it was bad. So when

507
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: as soon as I saw the phone light up, I

508
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: was like, no, I gotta take this. I had to

509
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: take it. So I took it. But I ended up

510
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: asking when I wanted anyway. So yeah, sorry about that, Luke.

511
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: You said this week, then, no one is a bigger

512
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: fan of Elder Abuse than Brian. Have you forgotten about

513
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: Kelly Folks? I mean, I know Kelly was an assistant

514
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: producer on my radio show. At the time she was

515
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: on the show, she was like twenty one, and we

516
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: were doing all these like tests or challenges to see

517
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: what she knew about anything other than her own generation

518
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: in terms of popularity or cultural So, for example, she

519
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: did not know who Harrison Ford was. Harrison Ford, of course,

520
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: played in many roles, not least of Witches. In Star

521
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: Wars he played Han solo, but you know, there's a

522
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff he's been in. Obviously she had

523
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: no idea who he was none. I don't think she.

524
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: I think she had heard the name the Wu Tang

525
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: clan and could not name anyone in it. You know,

526
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: it was one of those moments where I realized, like,

527
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: whoa dude. Coolness. You can get people like Snoop who

528
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: can be like cool over the course of generations, but

529
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: for most people, coolness is a function of youth, you know,

530
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: whatever the youth is listening to. Like I'll get on

531
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: I check YouTube trending every day and I'll look on

532
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: these videos and it's like pooh shite, Like, who's on

533
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: right now? Is it? Pooh shisty? Who the fuck is there?

534
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: Let's see Doja Cat. It's like, you think, I don't

535
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: know who the fuck Doja Cat is? All right, here's

536
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: b l x T Chosen featuring Tay Dalla Sign and Tay.

537
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, it was Big Tiga who

538
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: was in the basement and my friend. He did a

539
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: DJ show for like my friend's high school at the

540
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: times years ago, and everyone knew he was big tigga yall,

541
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: y'all might not know that. And my friend went up

542
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: to him. He's like, so you're a big tigger. Huh.

543
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, it's tig uh. He's like, oh, yeah,

544
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: you mean like from We need the Pooh Tigger. He's like, no,

545
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't know who tiger is. Let's see Polo g.

546
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I've seen him on here. I've seen him on here.

547
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't know who he is. Let's see who else

548
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: they got up here. DDG Lakiah Murray and Cooy Larras

549
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one X double XL Freshman Cipher. I bet

550
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: that's terrible. Ariana Grande, I've heard of hers. She's not

551
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: really a rapper. But you know twenty one Savage, I've

552
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: heard of him. He had the whole immigration thing of

553
00:29:53,400 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: memory serves. What else? What else do we have here? Bunch?

554
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh two s don't know him. Here's somebody called quad Decca.

555
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Don't know the NBA, young boy, I do know Tyler

556
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: the Creator. Okay, but you get my point, like you, eventually,

557
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: this will happen to all of you. If it hasn't already,

558
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: I have terrible news for you. You imagine your life

559
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: and your understanding of trends and coolness and everything is like, oh,

560
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I just know it as part of my daily operation

561
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: of living. Right, that will cease to exist, and it

562
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: will get further and further and further from you, and

563
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: to a point where one you'll realize the gap is

564
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: so big you can no longer cross it. And two

565
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: you'll look at what's across the gap and you'll realize,

566
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't even want that shit anymore. That's that is

567
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: the elderly position at which I have arrived, Luke. I

568
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: loved the live show you guys did last week. Any

569
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: chance of taking that type of show on the road, well,

570
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was on the road. I know what

571
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: you mean, though other places? If yes, can you come

572
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: to Toronto so I can see it live? Yeah? This

573
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: is this is why I try to explain to you guys.

574
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: It's like, and you already know the deal, but anytime

575
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: that we do something like that, you know, we need

576
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: the kind of support that shows the execs that there's

577
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: something worth investing in, that there's something worth doing more of.

578
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: And that was about That was a bottom of the

579
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: ninth Grand Slam. I mean, you know, that's about what

580
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: that was that was extremely well received at CBS. I

581
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: can't you guys know how I felt about what happened

582
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: in Miami. I mean in a stupid fight, but like,

583
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, what Showtime was trying to do for us

584
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: there and how we were able to handle those various tasks.

585
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: I think that they loved all of that on the

586
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: CBS side, which were the ones who made that desk

587
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: and everything else and made the arrangements and blah blah blah. Yeah, man,

588
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: like they they loved it. They loved it so Toronto.

589
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, especially with immigration and all

590
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: the COVID stuff. I don't know, but yeah, I think

591
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna see plenty more of that. Very

592
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: happy to see you treated well with Showtime in CBS.

593
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: But why did you decide to do MK under the

594
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Showtime banner today? It seems easy for anyone to start

595
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: a podcast and some of them become successful, I asked,

596
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: because you've mentioned a paranoia about being fired, and you've

597
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: got equipment to do independent content as well as a

598
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: decent amount of technical savvy, So it would make sense

599
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: that you would want your dream MK, with lots of

600
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: potential to be yours. Was it because your vision for

601
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: MK is beyond the scope of just doing a podcast, Yes,

602
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: and partnering with Showtime CBS would better help you achieve

603
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: those things, yes, Or maybe the terms of the contract

604
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: were good and no compromises on your end, so why

605
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: not do under Showtime correct? Also, if you're able to specify,

606
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: if you happen to part ways with Showtime CBS, what

607
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: would you be able to continue to show independently and

608
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: would it be with or without BC. Well, here's the

609
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: funny thing. I don't have any designs on not working

610
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: with BC anytime soon. In fact, to that point, imagine

611
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: we did get fired for saying something on Room Service

612
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: Diaries or something. Dude like the MK is me and

613
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: BC like, if you subbed me out, BC's entertaining, But

614
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be the same. And conversely,

615
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: if it was just me trying to do MK, I

616
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: don't think it would work. Now understand, I think BC

617
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: could thrive if you wanted to with a different vision

618
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: without me, and I think if push came to show

619
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I could find a way forward as well. But like, obviously,

620
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: uniting our strengths is big, and I think everyone knows

621
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: at this point, the brand is me and him. You

622
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: can't substitute that. You want m K. There's one way

623
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: to get it. It's me and it's him. So like,

624
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, I think the bosses upstairs understand that. But also,

625
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: like you know, the thing you mentioned was, now I've

626
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: said this before, you know I was living a life

627
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: pre pandemic. I think a lot of you were like this,

628
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: where I was just trying to do as much as

629
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: possible and then everything hit and you were forced to

630
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: take a reset. And then some of those things you

631
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: have to get back to, but some of them you don't,

632
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you know what, I don't have

633
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: to get back to that. I don't want to get

634
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: back to that. So that's been a bit of a

635
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: challenge for me. But the other part is that like

636
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: number one first of all, CBS Sports came to me

637
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: with like an offer that no one else had ever

638
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: come to me before. I already knew someone on the inside,

639
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, who was like, dude, I think this could

640
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: be really really good, like here's the lay of the land,

641
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then because Showtime had

642
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 1: such a senior role, in it, and I really knew

643
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: and trusted them. Plus to your point, MK is not

644
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: just me and Brian doing the podcast. That's a big

645
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: part of it. But you know again, it's me and Brian.

646
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: It's when we host Wayans, It's when we host media days,

647
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: It's when we get to go do stuff at a desk,

648
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: It's when we get to go do sometimes he gets

649
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: to do stuff independent of me, where he gets to

650
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: go and fill in for Jim Gray or And believe me,

651
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: there's been some offers thrown my way as well too.

652
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's I could could we do MK

653
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: without CBS A showtime? Yeah, I guess you could in theory,

654
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: But the level of investment, like what you don't want

655
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: to be is in a place where you have a

656
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: project that you believe in, that you know is good.

657
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: That's not getting investment. Or if it's really important to

658
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: you to never have any corporate influence whatsoever, Okay, that's

659
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: the thing you can do. But if you're going to

660
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: go to the independent route, it's a lot more work

661
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: on your own to make things happen. You're right, I

662
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: do have the resources to in theory potentially pull it off.

663
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: But I think that the things Show Time and CBS,

664
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, does it not look like to you

665
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: that they're all in? I mean, dude, just from all

666
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: the social assets we don't put. We don't do any

667
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: of those. We don't make any of the graphics, we

668
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: don't make any of those videos. Nothing back where you know,

669
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: other jobs you had to make, Like, dude, for the

670
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: lot to this live chat, the previous iteration, the promotional practice,

671
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: live chat. Understand something. I took a shot at vox

672
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: Media two weeks ago. I'm happy to take another one

673
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: on now. Dude. They never like they gave me the

674
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: opportunity to like, hey, you can have the site on

675
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: whatever days it was Wednesdays at one I remember to

676
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: do the live chat, but they never lifted a finger.

677
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: They never even did a logo for the show. Nothing

678
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: like that logo I had. That was the black and

679
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: yellow logo A user made that that podcast feed I established,

680
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: it's actually in my name. In fact, to the point

681
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: when I left the site and they made the successor

682
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: to it. I remember Sean Ol'shotty and Mark RAMONDI great guys.

683
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: I saw Mark in Vegas do well no beef with them,

684
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: but they hit me up and they were like, hey,

685
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: we need the log in for the podcast feed, and

686
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, gents, I got bad news for you. That's mine,

687
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: that's mine. I made it in my name because Foxer's

688
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: fuck wasn't gonna do anything about it, you know what

689
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean? And listen, the live chat itself probably has

690
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: a limited ceiling. I think, I think even you guys

691
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: understand that. But the point being is like nothing was done, nothing,

692
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: zero investment, never cost him a dollar. I don't think

693
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: they gave me one time a black Magic card that

694
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: I could use to take on the road to plug

695
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: in a camcorder that I bought so that I could

696
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: do it from the road or whatever, and I could

697
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: plug it into my computer so I didn't have to

698
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: use the webcam. I could use like a independent camera here.

699
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's fucking it. That is it.

700
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: That is it? So you compare that with like, what's

701
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: happening now, dude, it's not even The whole reason I

702
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: ended up where I ended up is because I was like,

703
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm only going to go to a place that has

704
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: decided to make a bet on me every time I

705
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: have not every time but in general, in general, when

706
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: I have bet on myself to win and to do

707
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: better and to get what I want, I have been

708
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: in general successful. So what I wanted was a hand.

709
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: I wanted someone, some entity to invest to say we're

710
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 1: betting on you. That's what I wanted, And they came

711
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: with that exact offer, in that exact language. So to me,

712
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, sure, listen, if things fall apart,

713
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: I always have a plan. B all this stuff I've purchased,

714
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: all the you can't even see all the stuff here,

715
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: all everything. If everything falls apart, I'm okay. I'm okay.

716
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: But I wanted a chance to be at a place

717
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: that cared that I was there, that thought that I

718
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: could deliver value, especially if they put money in it

719
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: would deliver even more value. On the other end, Welcome

720
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: to Showtime, Welcome to CBS. Any chance you can get

721
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Brad Riddell back on the show, would love to. Haven't

722
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: talked to him in a while, But yeah, Brad's a very,

723
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: very very smart guy. If Dana is Batman, okay, and

724
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: Ariel is his joker, I don't think that's quite right

725
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: in the analogy, but okay, let's run with it. Who

726
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: does that make you? In bc BC? It would make

727
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't think, based on conversations I had in Las Vegas,

728
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: I don't think UFC dislikes BC at all. And I'll

729
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: say this again. I said it on Monday Show. I'll

730
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: repeat it. Boy, I gotta tell you that UFC media staff,

731
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: they are pros. Man, they are pros They're honest with you,

732
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: to me, to me, they are extremely fair, reliable. You know.

733
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: So we you're asking about Dana. That would make me,

734
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, a little Harvey dent ish to face,

735
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: and it would make I'm not familiar enough with like

736
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: DC villains to know exactly who's who. That's funny. I'm

737
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: not sure penguin. Would it make VC the penguin. I

738
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: don't know what is actually your favorite discontinued food, motherfucker.

739
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know any discontinued foods. What the kind

740
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: of Chipotle with a lettuce that had rhinovirus in it?

741
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: You know? I mean, is that a favorite discontinued food item? Like?

742
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: Does anyone really miss crystal pepsi tab? I mean, if

743
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: it's discontinued, that's just discontinued for a reason. This is

744
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: way too long of a question. Could you break down

745
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: how UFC contracts work? I mean, there's a lot to that, Jesus.

746
00:40:54,400 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Jonathan Snowden has a big article he did for Bleacher Report.

747
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: I'll tweet it out. Okay, here we go, the Business

748
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: of fighting, a look inside the UFC's top secret fighter contract.

749
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: And he got a contract expert to go through piece

750
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: by piece, this dude, this labor law professor, Zev Eigen

751
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: or somebody else to go through all the different pieces

752
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: so you can see what they are demanding. Because that's

753
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: way too long of a question for this one, But

754
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: I'll tweet that out at El Thomas News when this

755
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: is all over. Josh Thompson says a fighter's contract has

756
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: extended six months every time they turn on a fight. Yeah,

757
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: that's true, or it may be three months. I've double

758
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: checked that, but it could be six. But yes, it

759
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: does get extended. If they offer you a fight and

760
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: you say no, the contract gets extended. Are you surprised

761
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: by the backlash Connor got for insulting Dustin's wife? Considering

762
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: Adasganya has mocked John Jones's dead parent, He mocked her.

763
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I didn't hear him mock his mom I heard him

764
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: bring up his mom. I didn't hear him. And again

765
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not true. I did not see that.

766
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: I saw him bring her up, and even that gave

767
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: me the hebgb's. But no, I don't think he mocked

768
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: or did he and fighters have always insulted each other's families. Well,

769
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Connor's going to pull into an audience. Remember,

770
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: what's the biggest audience in combat sports numbers wise, what's

771
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: the biggest one? Casuals. They're not there all the time,

772
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: but when they're there, they're there in the largest amount

773
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: of numbers. Connor's going to pull into an audience that

774
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: is not as fight fight world savvy, or maybe even

775
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: fight world numb as you or as I. So I

776
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: think part of what might be driving that is you've

777
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: got Stephen A Smith, who you know, has a large

778
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: audience and has a large audience of people who are

779
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: not probably died in the wol of fight fans. And

780
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: so when he goes out there and says this was

781
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: disrespectful and blah blah blah, it's gonna it's going to

782
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: hit a little bit different. For those reasons. I think

783
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: that's probably a big part of it. That's probably the

784
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: biggest part of it. But the other thing is to

785
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: considers like you and I know the reality here. I

786
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: don't recall John Jones' mother being mocked by out assign

787
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: I'll look that up if I've got that wrong. I've

788
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: got that wrong, but I don't think that's quite right.

789
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: But you guys do know the reality here. I mean,

790
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: I remember when Ricardo Mariorga, I bring this one up

791
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: all the time, he told Dala Hoya to his face

792
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: he was gonna drink his wife's breast milk. I mean,

793
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, he said fucked up things, and not just

794
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: in that fight and a bunch of them, you know,

795
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: Chill there was a moment there where Chill Son and

796
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: people like, oh, you see the greatest trash talker in

797
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: the game and I and for a while he was

798
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: obviously making a great, a great run at it with

799
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: what he was doing, but what he was doing was

800
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: a little bit like PG. Thirteen two majorgas are R

801
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: rated or even X rated shit, And so you know,

802
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: there was this categorical difference. Like I guess the point

803
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: I would make is that if you're if you're used

804
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: to the fight game. You know, Dana White does have

805
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good point about it, which is, like, dude,

806
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: people are gonna say fucked up shit. I think for me,

807
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: the moment that like intervention is warranted is well one

808
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: as a company, you have to decide what you want

809
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: to allow. So, for example, you know what would UFC

810
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: do if one fighter, what a male fighter was like

811
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: openly gay with a boyfriend the whole nine yards and

812
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: his opponent was calling him the six letter F word?

813
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Would they do something about that? Would they retreat to

814
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: while people are just saying mean things in the fight game,

815
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: I think you have to figure that part out. But

816
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: absent those particular hot spots, they're just, you know, generally

817
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: if quite meanly disparaging. I think you and I both

818
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: know you just gotta lot of rock. That's just the

819
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: way the fight game goes. Uh. Look, your energy for

820
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: MK last Friday was epic. Reminded me of you'r Donald

821
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: Trump junior goober video. Y'all ever seen Donald Trump trying

822
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: to do that masculine fucking deadlift thing, Jesus christ Man. Okay,

823
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: Like there's this weird thing'll y'all know which way Eileen? Politically,

824
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm not here to restate it exactly, but there is

825
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: this weird thing where you're like watching like Tom Cotton

826
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: do these like super fucking shitty push ups, you know,

827
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do performative masculinity. It's dude, you're gonna

828
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: be performative masculinity. You need to perform masculinity like you

829
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: do in these half assed push ups and getting the

830
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: job done. Don Junior had a deadlift that was so

831
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: fucking horrendous. I mean he had the worst backbend ever.

832
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe his spine didn't pop out

833
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: of his back. It was so fucking bad. And the

834
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: reality is if you, if you at all were being

835
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 1: fair about good and bad deadlifts, there is no way,

836
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: there's no way you could say anything other than it

837
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: was a horrible deadlift, not just bad, really bad, like

838
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: what you would show to someone as bad as Tony

839
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Ferguson's first deadlift that was the that one took the cake,

840
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: but a shade under that is Don Junior's deadlift. And

841
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: I saw people being like, oh, yeah, it's not so bad.

842
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're fucking so disingenuous. Because if that

843
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: was anyone who I don't know, Chris A's or whatever,

844
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden or some shit. And they were turning in

845
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: deadlifts like that, and you were trying to just call

846
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: down the middle. You could never say anything positive about it.

847
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: But they were defending this guy because they loved him.

848
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: And I made a long video of being like, dude,

849
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: his fucking deadlift is terrible, terrible, terrible, Dude. If you're

850
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna record, mean people like, why don'd you record your shit?

851
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like impress none of all or

852
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: anything like. I'm like, I live in ordinary life. I

853
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: have an extraordinary job. But for the most part, I

854
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: live in an ordinary life. I'm not. I don't do

855
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: feats of strength. I can't wrap, I don't know how

856
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: to cook, I can't sing, I don't really know how

857
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: to dance basically at all. What is it you want

858
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: me to record? You know? And so the rule is

859
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: if you don't record, people could say whatever you do,

860
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, oh you're a coward. You should record it.

861
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: You ain't came what you want. I'm not recording it

862
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: for me. The rule is, if you record it and

863
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: you post it, it's no longer yours, doesn't Man whatever

864
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: it is. If you post it and record it and

865
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: you give it to the internet, they are going to

866
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: have their say about it. And you know, anyway, you're

867
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: asking about last Friday. Yeah, last Friday was fucking great,

868
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: is what it was. But that godlye worst deadlift I've

869
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: ever seen, not world Okay, it's not true again, Tony's

870
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: was worse, but bad. It was bad. Scariest moment of

871
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: your life when my mom found out I had forged

872
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: your signatures on some things. That was but that was

873
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: a long and awkward car ride home. I remember in

874
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: eighth grade I had gone to so I went to

875
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: my life's been a complete mess. I went to, let's see,

876
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: one to three different elementary schools. I went to three

877
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: different middle schools, and I went to two different high schools.

878
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: And the third of the middle schools that I had

879
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: attended was a private school. The only the only year

880
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: of my life ever went to private school, and my

881
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: mom got divorced the next year, so it was like

882
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: this whole thing. But I remember, you know, I did

883
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: well in high school eventually, but there was one semester

884
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: in eighth grade where I did not, and I had

885
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: another student sign like it wasn't the report, It wasn't

886
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: the final report card. It was like the halfway through

887
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: mark kind of thing, and you have to show your

888
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: grades to your parents, have to sign off, and it

889
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: was like two classes. I was just like kind of

890
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: just totally gaffing off, and I had someone else sign it,

891
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: and she was the teacher was none the wiser. And

892
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: then like fast forward like six months, maybe close to

893
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: the end of the year, even there was a PTA

894
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: meeting and my mom went, and it was supposed to

895
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: be just totally routine. Well, somehow they got to talking

896
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: and it came up that like somehow, you know, my

897
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: mom didn't know that earlier in the year, I'd had

898
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: like some bad grades. I had worked it all out

899
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: by this point anyway, and that I had forged her signature,

900
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: and my teacher at the time had kept the copies

901
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: of that interim report and then showed my mom, and

902
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, my mom had a very unique signature, and

903
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: the guy who signed it, the teacher is not going

904
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: to know because how could they possibly know what my

905
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: mom's signature looks like, So she didn't realize it. But

906
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: when they showed to my mom, she obviously recognized, like

907
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: I'd never seen these, and that's not my signature, and

908
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: I will never forget. I was waiting the car like

909
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: a dumb ass, being like it was taking my mom

910
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: so long, and I'll never forget. She got in the car,

911
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: didn't say a word, and then took copies of the

912
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: old interim report that I had forged or signature on

913
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: and just put them on my lap just like that,

914
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: didn't say anything, and pulled out of the of the

915
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: of the drive world, the heights, the schools, you know,

916
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: parking lot basically, and didn't say anything for forty five

917
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: minutes on the ride home. That was about the scariest

918
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: forty five minutes of my life. I thought she was

919
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 1: going to beat the absolute. I thought I was about

920
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: to get that Shane Carwin versus brock Lesnar ground of

921
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: pound boy. I thought I was about to get worked over.

922
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: My mom was a code of Hammer Robbie type. Man.

923
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hit my daughter. I don't really

924
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: believe in spanking. I don't think the evidence really suggests

925
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: it works, and it does a lot of problems. It

926
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: causes a lot of problems. My mom did not share

927
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: that attitude. She came from Beroot Lebanon ladies and gentlemen.

928
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: And you know, she was a strong advocate of corporal punishment.

929
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: And I think I actually did get absolutely demolished on

930
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: the way home, but all right once I got home,

931
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: but not nearly as bad as I thought I was

932
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna get. So that was bad. Been to a couple

933
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: of car accidents that were a little bit unnerving, you know,

934
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: But that that forty five minutes of just total silence,

935
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: and you knew when you got home it was gonna

936
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: be a death sentence. That's a long forty five. Man,

937
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: it's a long forty five. You know. It's funny. You

938
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: notice I don't bring up like like I've had knives

939
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: pulled on me a couple of times. For some reason,

940
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't view those as scary. Well, I mean, okay,

941
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: they're scary, but like when I think about what internally

942
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: caused me dread those, don't My forty five minutes of

943
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: my mom's silence was infinitely more frightening than a couple

944
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: of times people pulling knives on me. I even had

945
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: a gun pulled on me one time, well, me and

946
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: three other guys. That was scary. Okay, maybe I'll add

947
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: that one to the list. They start pulling the firearms out,

948
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: and you're you know, dude, this was one time. This

949
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: didn't involve me. Maybe I've told a story before. I

950
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: was getting lunch with my wife one time, maybe eight

951
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: or nine years ago, something like that. And it was

952
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: on K Street, close to Foggy Bottom, not too close

953
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: to like K and twentieth somewhere around there and northwest

954
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: in the city of You guys know, if anybody here

955
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: knows what that means. It's a nice business area, you know,

956
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: banks and law firms and steakhouses and that kind of thing.

957
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: And this dude hit this black guy. And I bring

958
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: this up because they immediately made it racial between them,

959
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: and the other guy was but not quite you could

960
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: tell something was off about him, and uh fuck. So

961
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: they start they start jawing, and then they start punching

962
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: each other, and I think the guy, based on his accent,

963
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: was like Turkish or something, and he took the black guy,

964
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: and he was much bigger than him. He took him

965
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: and then he threw him to the ground and tried

966
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: to go back to his car just to like, well,

967
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: maybe flee the scene of an accident. And I don't

968
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: really know what he was trying to do. But he wasn't.

969
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: He threw the guy away, and it looked like he

970
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: was trying to like get away from it, sort of

971
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 1: again leaving the scene of a fucking hour. Maybe he wasn't,

972
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: Maybe he was doing something else. I don't know. What

973
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: I do know is the other guy got up, and

974
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: I remember I was watching this being like he didn't

975
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: immediately get up and go to the other dude, Like

976
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna get over there and like

977
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: try to open the door, like punch him through the

978
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: door or something like that. But no, that's not what happened.

979
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: He went to the he went behind and went to

980
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: his own trunk and popped the trunk. And I, I'll

981
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: never forget I took my wife by the collar like

982
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: I was a bouncer chucking her out of the bar,

983
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: and there was like this, There was like this, these

984
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: two half walls and there was a set of stairs

985
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: between them, like hun and I threw her and me

986
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: behind this wall because I thought, for sure, for sure

987
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: he was about to have a moment where it was

988
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: a bone it was about to have a bone crusher

989
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: moment outside of the club. And you think I'm up punk, right,

990
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: so I go get my loaded Tech nine nuts off

991
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: in the trunk. I thought it was about to be

992
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: one of those moments, and maybe it was, but this

993
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: was the funny part. Then the dude in the front

994
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: car gets out and now he's jawing. He's like, oh,

995
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: you want to go to your You want to go

996
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: to your trunk, Go to your trunk, Go to your trunk,

997
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: Go to your trunk. Like he's just egging him on,

998
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: egging him on, egging him on. And the guy cracked

999
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: it open and lifted it, didn't look down, didn't grab anything,

1000
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: then just shut it, got back in the car and

1001
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: drove off. That was a frightening moment. I was like,

1002
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm about to watch somebody just get bucked in broad

1003
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: daylight in a nice part of town. But it didn't happen. Dude.

1004
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: Some of these guys I told you guys about the

1005
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: taxi driver. I won't tell the whole story, but when

1006
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: the guy was banging on the thing and he looked

1007
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: up and my taxi driver, they don't fuck with me, motherfucker.

1008
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm third world, you know. Some of those guys who

1009
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: come from those parts of the world, Man, they're not

1010
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: about your bone crusher games or your threats. All right,

1011
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: Brian Shaw has placed first, second, or third in ten

1012
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: of the last thirteen World Strongest Man competitions. Is he

1013
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: one of America's greatest athletes? Yes? And he got second

1014
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: this time. And you know, Brian Shaw's older. I think

1015
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: he's like thirty six or so something like that. He's

1016
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: one World Strongest Man four times. He's looking for his fifth.

1017
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: Fifth would tie him, I believe with Poujinowski, who by

1018
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: the way, has fought him, made a bunch of times.

1019
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: But you know, he was a strong man and it

1020
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: was him and Tom Staltman down to the last event,

1021
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: the Atlas Stones. Who ever won Atlas Stones won the

1022
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: whole thing, and he beat Brian Shaw. But for Brian

1023
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: to be this competitive, this long, this consistently a high achiever,

1024
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: many bronzes and many silvers along the way to many

1025
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: golds as well, dude, he is a perennially consistently excellent athlete. Man.

1026
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: He is just always a high level performer. I really

1027
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: thought this year might have been his year, especially when

1028
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: Novakov didn't make the top ten. I was shocked to

1029
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: see that. There's a couple of other like bigger names

1030
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: who did not make the top ten. I was a

1031
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: bunch the Stoltman I don't know, both Stiltman brothers made

1032
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: obviously Tom made it, but it was it was a

1033
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: slightly i won't say underwhelming field, but a lot of

1034
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: new names, a lot of new names except for the

1035
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: og himself, Brian Shaw, and he was down to the

1036
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: last event. But you know what, Tom Staltman didn't make

1037
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: it close. He won that event Farrence Square and God

1038
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: bless him. He's a hell of a competitor and it

1039
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: was it was his time. It was his time to win.

1040
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: So I do want to see Brianshaw get that fifth.

1041
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: I really would like to see him get that fifth,

1042
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: especially because he's come so close and he's had to

1043
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: eat disappointment a lot. When he was dominating and he

1044
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: was on they couldn't touch him. But the you know,

1045
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: between Thor doing well and between Eddie Hall doing well,

1046
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: and then you had Martinez Liss and you had Nova

1047
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: Call and I'm probably skiving somebody else, but yeah, he's

1048
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: a beast. He's a freaking beast. He's like six '

1049
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: nine four twenty or something. I mean, he's just you know,

1050
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 1: giant human best war of attrition that I've seen. God,

1051
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: he Ward is gonna be up there. I'm gonna put

1052
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: condit Lawlor, condit Lawler because both those guys are still fighting,

1053
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: but they're not the same anymore. And obviously you don't

1054
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: want to you don't want to overly state the importance

1055
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: of one fight over many, many years of competing. But yeah,

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00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: that was a big one. That was a turning point

1057
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: in both of their careers. Illustrious ones, but a turning

1058
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: point just the same. Can you share which are most

1059
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: and least popular based on YouTube's algorithm of audience retention?

1060
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: From UFC, other MMA boxing dms from donks? Have you

1061
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: seen this shit tip to tip fans submissions wheel of Death? Well, look,

1062
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: not everything is designed as an algorithm play like we

1063
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: don't do Wheel of Death or have you seen this shit?

1064
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: As like oh this will do well later? Same with

1065
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: dms from donks and everything else. So those are just

1066
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: show elements that by themselves are just designed to make

1067
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: the show better. Okay, if you're asking about UFC and

1068
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: other MMA, there's no real competition. I mean, I hate

1069
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: to put it this way, but like we could only

1070
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: talk UFC, it's not quite true, It's not quite true.

1071
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Generally speaking, if we only talk to UFC, the audience

1072
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: might not like that, or the hardcore, but I like that,

1073
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: and we would not be fair to other promoters or

1074
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: fighters who are just as good in terms of skill

1075
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: or you know, propotion of putting on good shows. But like,

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00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: if we just talked to UFC and nothing else, I

1077
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: don't think we'd feel a hit in our in our numbers.

1078
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: We'd have to adjust some things. But that's how dominant

1079
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: a force that they are. Now. Obviously that's a little

1080
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: bit different. When you've got a Mayweather competing or a

1081
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Logan Paul or something like that, your routine boxing is

1082
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: really not going to be on par This is not

1083
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: the case that it used to folks. This is so funny.

1084
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: When I was, you know, two thousand and seven, two

1085
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, dude boxing was

1086
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: way more popular than MMA, way more popular. And on

1087
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: top of that, you know, you had two guys at

1088
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: that time, Patyon Mayweather, who could both themselves do two

1089
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: million or put right at it pay per view buys,

1090
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: you know, just massive appeal at the time. You know,

1091
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: UFC didn't have anyone even close to that. At that

1092
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: time you had Brock, but even Brock couldn't really hang

1093
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: like that, and boxing was just way more popular than

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01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: m Dude, mma is more popular than boxing now. I'm

1095
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: pretty confident in saying that what did not used to

1096
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: be that way. So if you're just getting into fights

1097
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: now and you're like, wow, is more popular than boxing, Dude,

1098
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: in my own career lifespan, that's it's been the reverse.

1099
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: So listen, some things you cover as an algorithm play.

1100
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: Of course, some things you cover out of just duty

1101
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: to that fighter or in fairness to that promoter or whatever.

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: But it's basically like UFC content and then everything else

1103
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: after that, honestly. And then you know, big name boxing

1104
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: like one of Dravante Davis fights, we get we get

1105
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: we get a pull from that, Floyd or something like that.

1106
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: When Pacchiao fights, we'll get a pull from that. But

1107
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: or Fury and Wilder, right that that kind of a

1108
01:00:51,640 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: thing I heard about MK after is the out of

1109
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: Sonya shared some clips on his ig page. I was

1110
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: wondering if there are any even other moments in particular

1111
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: that boosted the show's popularity. The one of the first

1112
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: interviews I did with Dustin pourrierate on MK hit Big,

1113
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: A lot of the dissectives were good for that. Yeah,

1114
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that's really the way to do

1115
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: it right is to get fighters who are famous to

1116
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: talk about your stuff. That's really the best way to

1117
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: get attention, right. You have Connor on your show or something,

1118
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: and then he says nice things about you, and you know,

1119
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: he promotes he's gonna be on your show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm stating something in theoretical here that

1121
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 1: will blow your show up pretty quickly. But like we

1122
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: made a pretty Brian has a lot of interviews, although

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01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: not many recently if you've not noticed. But like on

1124
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: MK itself, I don't we don't put fighters on there, Like,

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01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: that's not what we do. Like we're gonna make or

1126
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: break based on me and him. Yeah, we'll do a

1127
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: YouTube play, We'll do some you know, we'll play the

1128
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: game a little bit that we have to. But I

1129
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: think in general, whether we succeed or whether we fail,

1130
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: and so far, so good, it's been because of me

1131
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: and him. Like we invited a couple of fighters. There's

1132
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: a story for you. We invited a couple of fighters

1133
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: to come out on Friday show and they turned us

1134
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: down and we didn't miss them at all, you know

1135
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I even told Brian we don't

1136
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: need them, and Brian was like, at least try, so

1137
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'll try, and you know, one had

1138
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: a scheduling conflict and then one said yes and then

1139
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: said no at the last minute because whatever whatever. You know,

1140
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: But like it didn't didn't hurt us at all. Wouldn't

1141
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: it have helped to have one of them there maybe

1142
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: a little bit? Maybe, you see what I mean? Like

1143
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: I wanted a vision where there's so many of these

1144
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: media folks who and they're good folks, but like they've

1145
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: just got this lamp ray mentality where it's like I

1146
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: got to attach myself to these individual fighters and then

1147
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: use whatever trickle down effect that they have to boost popularity.

1148
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: It's like I don't want to do that. I don't

1149
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: want to do that. What's the endgame for Morning Combat?

1150
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't thought about the endgame. By

1151
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: the way, some of the things that we have thought about,

1152
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: like as like being four or five years down the road,

1153
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: have been laid at our lapse here already. I don't

1154
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: know that we're in a position to take some of

1155
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: those stuff yet. But like, dude, we're doing good. I'm

1156
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: telling you internally, internally like what we have shown them,

1157
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: they're very happy with and I think it will lead

1158
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: to a lot of opportunities. But the reality is this, man,

1159
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: NBC and I have had a discussion about this in particular, like,

1160
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to take any job where I can't

1161
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: make MK what it is. Where to start at the

1162
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: beginning of the show, where you know, oh, well look

1163
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: we need you to not say stuff like that, Well okay,

1164
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: well then go fuck yourself because I'm out. Like, if

1165
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, if any outside MK might get it might

1166
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: do in certain capacities that other opportunities come around because

1167
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: of it, Right, But I don't want to take those

1168
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: opportunities if what it means is that in order to

1169
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: take that, Yes, doing the MK stuff raised my visibility

1170
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: and made me a leading candidate for a potential other

1171
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: thing I could do. But if I take that, it

1172
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: requires me potentially, not not in every case, but in

1173
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: some cases it might require me to be something I'm not,

1174
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: and then that will then affect MK. That's what I'm

1175
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: not gonna do, so asked by the end game. I'm

1176
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: not entirely certain because I don't know exactly what's coming.

1177
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: All this is to say is if if you build

1178
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: something big enough, I'm not too worried about it. And

1179
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: we've got long way before we've done that. I mean,

1180
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: we're not in any position to declare victory. But you know, again,

1181
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: steady as she goes Kobe Commentent has not really developed

1182
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: a ground and pound game or a submission threat. He

1183
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: uses his wrestling to drain opponents. Do you think he

1184
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: needs to develop one of these in order to beat usman? Yes, yes,

1185
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: if the majority of what you do is control, which

1186
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: is that is what he does. He has obviously volume

1187
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: punching on the feet, and he has some ground and pound,

1188
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: but really what he likes to do is just hold

1189
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: people through a series of positions in order to get

1190
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: them to just sort of have to constantly answer for

1191
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: the speed chests that he's playing with the positional game

1192
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: without a whole lot of ground and pound. I mean,

1193
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: what was the last top Maybe the Demian Maya fight.

1194
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: I guess some of the Tyrant Woodley fight too, but

1195
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: in general, go to like the Lawlor fight. There's hardly

1196
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: any ground pound on that and the submission attempts are

1197
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: pretty weak, but I think they're weak by design. I

1198
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: don't think he was trying to like, I'm gonna submit

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01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: this guy now. Yeah, I think to beat usman, you're

1200
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to add add something like that. Yeah. H

1201
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: Have you had any more contact with Rogan? We text

1202
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: now and again. On your appearance, Joe mentioned the idea

1203
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: of having you debate in the subject of peds in sport. Yeah. Yeah,

1204
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 1: I've not heard anything about that. I don't know if

1205
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: anyone really wants to do that, but we've not talked

1206
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: about that. We've just talked about like when we text,

1207
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: like hey, you see this thing in the news or

1208
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: or something. But no, like we're not like I don't

1209
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: want to undersell it and say, like I don't know

1210
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: who the fuck Worldan is. Like I know who he is.

1211
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: I was on his podcast. He's cool. I consider ours,

1212
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: I consider us friendly, but we're not like friends in

1213
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: that way. I think they'd be overstating the case a

1214
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: little bit. Look, do you have any insight as to

1215
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: why the UFC stopped doing the Fight for the Troops events?

1216
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: The cards themselves were offering pretty lackluster on paper, but

1217
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: I remember them raising a hell of a lot of

1218
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: money for the fallen heroes. Fine, that's a great question.

1219
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: I do not know. And there was some good fights

1220
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: on there, Jorge Santiago and or Hey Santiago and not

1221
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: Tim Kennedy, but the guy with the Johnny Cash tattoo

1222
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: who beat whosomr pel haras Alan Belcher. There's been some

1223
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: good fights on there. How about the first Durando me

1224
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: and a man in Nunez was a fight for the

1225
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: troops card. What do you think of Raphael Phisiah? I

1226
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: think he is a fucking animal. Do you think his

1227
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: exceptional striking but apparent lack of wrestling will be enough

1228
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: to get him the gold? I don't know if his

1229
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: wrestling is all that bad. I do know though that

1230
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of conversations with his manager, one

1231
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: of the few managers I have a good relationship with,

1232
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: and boy, they can't get this guy fights. I think

1233
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: there might also be some issues about getting him to

1234
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: the US, some beece of issues maybe, But you'd be

1235
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: surprised who's turning down fights with him. They don't want

1236
01:07:51,600 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: they don't want any part of that guy. Which fighter

1237
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: has the most liable, nervous tick or mannerism that could

1238
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: get them in trouble in a fight. For example, Dustin

1239
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: wiping his hands on his shorts and hair, Whittaker wiping

1240
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: his foot on the back of his leg cheers from

1241
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 1: down under. You know what, Let me give a shout

1242
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: out to a guy who I guess I found him

1243
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. He has coached UFC fighters before. I

1244
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: think before Dan Hooker ended up at CKB, he was

1245
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: with this guy, and I think he mostly trains boxers.

1246
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: Barry Robinson. He has a page called Get Great at

1247
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: Boxing on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you

1248
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: could see that or not. It's a little washed out

1249
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: because of the lighting. Sorry, Get Great at Boxing on Instagram.

1250
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: His name is Barry Robinson. I don't want to make

1251
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: a claim that I fully understand his his views and

1252
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: all the different things that he teaches. I'm not making

1253
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: a claim about that, which it might all be great.

1254
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: But the one thing that he has really opened my

1255
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: eyes to is something that he has dubbed It's okay.

1256
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: It's something he has called the rhythm step basically, and

1257
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 1: it's this idea is taught. I've seen it taught in

1258
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: other places, but he has homed in on something that

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Speaker 1: I find very interesting. It's two concepts. One is this

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Speaker 1: concept I've talked about it before, of engagement. If you

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Speaker 1: and I are a part, there is a skill to

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Speaker 1: be developed where I can control you and I can

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Speaker 1: control the terms under which we actually engage one another.

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Speaker 1: We will have to engage other on some point, but

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Speaker 1: I can control those factors through a lot of different things,

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Speaker 1: lateral movements, fans and whatnot. But I want to make

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Speaker 1: it in my mind a concept that I'm going to

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Speaker 1: control engagement. And once you do that, there's a series

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Speaker 1: of skills you can build behind it so that folks

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Speaker 1: understand and that you can do a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: to control your opposition without ever actually striking them. Then

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Speaker 1: what happens now the second part that is something he

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Speaker 1: is called the rhythm step. Where you'll see a lot

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Speaker 1: of people physically reset their feet in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a fight, and they do it all the time, and

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Speaker 1: in fact, it's extraordinarily widespread. And what you find is

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Speaker 1: that a lot of fighters get in trouble off of

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Speaker 1: a rhythm step. Now what's kind of funny is I've

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Speaker 1: actually gone to different fighters where their opponent has been

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Speaker 1: attacked off of a rhythm step where they're bringing their

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Speaker 1: excuse me, they're bringing their feet together. They're doing this,

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Speaker 1: then they back up and they're like, okay, let me,

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Speaker 1: let me start over. And then they get kind of

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Speaker 1: back into it. And it may be that big, it

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Speaker 1: may not mean that dramatic. It may just step back

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Speaker 1: a little bit, bring their feet to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit and then go back, you know, just kind of

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Speaker 1: like a momentary attempt to reset, and then they get

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Speaker 1: laid out for it. Because remember you're if you're resetting constantly,

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Speaker 1: and it's easy to read because you're bringing your feet together,

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Speaker 1: you can get timed off of that. You can get

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Speaker 1: timed off of that, and much more. You can get

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Speaker 1: more than just timed. You can get a lot of

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Speaker 1: bad things can happen to you by virtue of that. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of times it goes undetected. What's funnily enough,

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Speaker 1: is I forget who which which fighter it was. I

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Speaker 1: remember Barry had found a case of a fire getting rhythmstepped,

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Speaker 1: and then the opponent knocked him out. God, who was that?

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Speaker 1: I asked the fighter who it was? Or no, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: I asked the fighter, did you see them do this?

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Speaker 1: And they said in real time no, but that something

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Speaker 1: instinctively called upon them to throw the punch when they did,

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Speaker 1: by virtue of their of their the repetitive motion of

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Speaker 1: their action, of the way in which they were able

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Speaker 1: to tell that then that little window they were disarmed.

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Speaker 1: And so it's sort of like proof of concept to

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Speaker 1: think of what Barry has talked about, which is, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you can pick up on these like

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Speaker 1: tendencies that it's not just one or two fighters have.

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Speaker 1: Like dude, like most fighters rhythm step, most elite fighters

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Speaker 1: rhythm step at least a little bit. Now, if you're

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Speaker 1: way far away, I guess it doesn't really you have

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Speaker 1: to ask Barry, but it doesn't seem like it's all

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Speaker 1: that consequential. But a lot of times guys will do

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Speaker 1: it in close quarters and they get laid the fuck

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Speaker 1: out for it, and not because they're all students of

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Speaker 1: Barry's game, but because they can tell that there's these

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Speaker 1: little windows where people have disarmed themselves because they need to.

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Speaker 1: They need some kind of mental and physical crutch to

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Speaker 1: lean on to then restart the engagement process. Right, I

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Speaker 1: missed a punch. Let me circle out, bring my feet

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Speaker 1: together a little bit. Let's restart the closing of the distance.

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Speaker 1: And so if you can get closer to that, if

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Speaker 1: you can force them into these rhythm steps, if you

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Speaker 1: can do other things, you can get a lot going

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Speaker 1: with it. Now again, I've seen other teachers teach about,

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Speaker 1: you know, not bringing your feet together, timing off of tendencies.

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Speaker 1: So they've picked up pieces of what Barry has done,

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Speaker 1: or they got some of the underlying ideas right. But

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Speaker 1: he's the first I've ever seen to like kind of

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Speaker 1: put it all together in a name and a concept

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Speaker 1: better than anyone else I've ever seen. Now again, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say that I've explained this all correctly,

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Speaker 1: like I'm an acolyte of Barry Robinson. I'm not a

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Speaker 1: trained Barry Robinson professional teacher. I'm just telling you what

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Speaker 1: I picked up on from I think what I think

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Speaker 1: I've picked up on based on the things he said.

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Speaker 1: But like, now that you've heard me say this, go

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Speaker 1: to one more time. What is his get great at boxing?

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Speaker 1: Get great at boxing on Instagram. Go check that out,

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Speaker 1: Go check that out, and then watch how often he

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Speaker 1: finds folks doing shit like this and other stuff. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: who's the guy that Montielle that the other Charlotte brother fought.

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Speaker 1: He would constantly just touch his legs. He wasn't rhythm stepping,

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Speaker 1: he would just touch his legs and bring his hands up. Well, folks,

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Speaker 1: if I know you're gonna constantly touch your legs when

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Speaker 1: your hands go down, and you're an elite boxer, you

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Speaker 1: should be able to fucking crack that guy, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you see stuff like that the more you begin

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Speaker 1: to pay attention to it, Dude, fighting is all about

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Speaker 1: patterns at the highest level anyway, the bar fights, no,

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Speaker 1: But at the highest level, they're all about patterns what

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Speaker 1: someone does over and over and over. And you knew

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Speaker 1: that from dissected or technical difficulties, whatever you want to

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Speaker 1: call it, I've sown you that. Like in a five

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Speaker 1: round fight. It's something that usually someone sets up early

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Speaker 1: and just able to continue the process with over the

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Speaker 1: course of time, minor adjustments here or there. It's all

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Speaker 1: about patterns, and those patterns can be good or those

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Speaker 1: patterns can be bad. Those patterns can be quick or

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Speaker 1: they can be short, and they can be constantly repeating

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Speaker 1: or just repeating a little bit enough, but they're there.

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Speaker 1: They're constantly there in one form or another. And rhythm

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Speaker 1: stepping where you're bringing your feet together to restart the

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Speaker 1: engagement process as a form of reset. Dude, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: if a fighter really wants to hurt you for that,

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Speaker 1: they can and they do. All right, With that in mind,

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Speaker 1: let's call it a day on this. First things first,

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Speaker 1: like the video Subscribe show tomorrow eleven am in the

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Speaker 1: East me BC and you be there also, I think

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Speaker 1: on two pm, one pm something like that. BC and

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Speaker 1: I will be hosting digitally anyway, the charlo Versus castagno

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Speaker 1: Way in Charlo by the way, trying to become the

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Speaker 1: first guy I one fifty four to hold all four

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Speaker 1: belts at the same time. Pretty big deal. All right,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for watching. If you want

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Speaker 1: to email me Luke Thomas news at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: And until next time May I'll tell you