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<v Speaker 2>way tire buying should be. Hell yeah, on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about it. Got my mouth surgery yesterday. It

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<v Speaker 2>was emergency surgery. Wait, what my tooth is the tooth

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<v Speaker 2>with the iron mask? You know, like like the movie

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<v Speaker 2>they put iron in there. They said, dude, like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the frick? Like, we didn't make it to the crown.

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<v Speaker 3>You destroyed your dentist as surfer. No, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, bro, is like, Bro, you jacked your tooth

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<v Speaker 3>totally up while we were waiting for your permanent crown.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we got to order you a whole, an entirely

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<v Speaker 3>different crown for your tooth. You know that isn't how

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<v Speaker 3>he talks though he's super cool dude, but he had

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<v Speaker 3>to really do some work because I fractured my tooth.

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<v Speaker 4>This is gonna come off as sound like a d bag,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm gonna go ahead and do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very ignorant when it comes.

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<v Speaker 4>To teeth, despite the fact that my father in law

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<v Speaker 4>is orthodonists. But I never asked questions about it, mostly

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<v Speaker 4>because I really don't care. But but like, what so

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<v Speaker 4>the crowns for a while, if you have a cavity or.

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<v Speaker 3>Something, I had to get a root canal. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>they had, So you get a root canal. When again,

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<v Speaker 3>a cavity, you have to yeah something. No, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>remove it. They just like drill to the the nerve

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<v Speaker 3>and then like yeah to the root. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they like killed the nerve and then they let it heal,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they put a crown on it, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like nothing ever happened, you know. But I had a

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<v Speaker 3>temporary crown on because I'm getting a gold and I

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<v Speaker 3>hear maybe that's the moral of the story. I was,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting a matching goal. A goal, yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>in the back. It's in the back.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would okay, hold on, this is great, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>break the style. Why would you want to get a

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<v Speaker 4>gold tooth and that no one's going to see in

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<v Speaker 4>the back?

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<v Speaker 2>Gods, I can, right, but no one's ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>see it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do you like? I smile pretty big, que

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<v Speaker 3>and I gotta I already have one gold. Have you

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<v Speaker 3>ever saw a gold tooth in my in my mouth?

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I smile, smile enough around, shut up? Some

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<v Speaker 3>people might see it, you know, almost cursed on looking

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<v Speaker 3>deep back in there. That's correct, that's correct. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you see it, if you see it, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>because she was really in my mouth. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get another one on the opposite side of matching one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was waiting on it. And while I was

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<v Speaker 3>waiting on it, I guess, I was. I was sitting around.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I know, I'm not supposed to chew nuts,

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<v Speaker 3>but I wouldn't as I was chewing on nut clusters

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<v Speaker 3>and then I fractured my tue.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but which one can't be a cashew? Cashews too?

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was a cluster, so it was almonds,

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<v Speaker 3>it was cashws, it was sunflower seeds, and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>put together and like dar kind of like that. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're like they're keto. They're Keto though, so they're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, yes, And I was just sitting there and

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<v Speaker 3>I was chewing and I bit and I felt it boom,

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<v Speaker 3>like I fractured it too. I didn't even know you

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<v Speaker 3>could fracture too. I just thought you break it, which

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<v Speaker 3>a fracture is a break, I guess, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'd never heard that terminology use. And

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<v Speaker 3>it scared me, you know. I was sitting there and

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<v Speaker 3>they were like, man, they were going through the language

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<v Speaker 3>of it and taking the X rays and then they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, yeah, da da, there's such and such a

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<v Speaker 3>bicuspics and that one is fractured. I was like, fractured.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, it's ridiculous. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My dadd has told me said, listen, nuts will get

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<v Speaker 2>you every time. He said, I just relax. He said

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<v Speaker 2>that a trick is you can take almonds and you

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<v Speaker 2>soak them in water to make them some if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, uh, if you still want to get your

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<v Speaker 2>your almend fixed. All right, this is the part of

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<v Speaker 2>conversation where I have the jump and well, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>the sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, man, we were good until we started get

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<v Speaker 4>into the nuts conversations.

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<v Speaker 3>Too much nuts is not good for you. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, some would say that the Jets organization

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<v Speaker 2>is nuts. Some would say they've been nuts for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes like a nut.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently it was a nutty situation and departure for

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers, who spoke yesterday on the Pat McAfee show

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<v Speaker 2>starring AJ Hawk and Rogers decided to air out the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Jets and describe what the final meeting was

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<v Speaker 2>with Aaron Glenn with Aaron Moogie. This is entire situation debacle,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will. Here was Rogers breaking it all down.

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<v Speaker 5>I figured they went. I flew across country on my

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<v Speaker 5>own dime, but there was going to be a conversation,

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<v Speaker 5>and twenty seconds in he goes, I mean literally, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>talking to the GM about something and he leans to

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<v Speaker 5>the to a sheet and goes, should you want to

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<v Speaker 5>play football? And I was like, yeah, I'm interested, and

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<v Speaker 5>he said we're going a different direction in quarterback and

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<v Speaker 5>I was kind of shocked. Now, not shocked because I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't think that was a possibility. Listen, of course they

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<v Speaker 5>want to move on. That's totally fine, but shocked because

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<v Speaker 5>I just flew across the country. You could have told

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<v Speaker 5>me this on the phone. So I said huh, and

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<v Speaker 5>he goes, we just want to know how you want

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<v Speaker 5>it released the messaging and I said why And then

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<v Speaker 5>he said, I don't want to be up in front

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<v Speaker 5>of the room saying something and have guys looking back.

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<v Speaker 3>At you interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, what does that even mean? Are you

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<v Speaker 5>assuming that I would be in the back of the

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<v Speaker 5>room during the team meeting undermining what you're saying. I said,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't know me, and he said you don't know me,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I said exactly, which is why I flew

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<v Speaker 5>across the country to have a face to face meeting

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<v Speaker 5>with you to talk about my experience with the Jets.

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<v Speaker 5>What I thought was going to be a couple hour

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<v Speaker 5>meeting turned into like a fifteen minute meeting, and I

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<v Speaker 5>walked out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's your your final moments with the New York Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>And was that a beef? You don't know me, homie. Look, man,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>This has to look terrible for the Jets, right, Oh gosh, yeah, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because here's the reality of it.

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<v Speaker 4>If if that's how you're willing to deal with the

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<v Speaker 4>guy wh's gonna be a first Battle Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 4>how do you feel like they're gonna deal with guys

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<v Speaker 4>who are on the back end of the roster? I

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<v Speaker 4>mean as a player, and I'm not saying that like

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<v Speaker 4>all players like Aaron Rodgers or all players even relate

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<v Speaker 4>to Aaron Rodgers. He seems to have a good rapport

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<v Speaker 4>with his teammates. But you sit there and go, this

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<v Speaker 4>is how this, this is how the team's handling this

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<v Speaker 4>guy like he Now, mind you, he probably flew private

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<v Speaker 4>like his on his own dime.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like the team's flying him there on his

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<v Speaker 4>jet to get there, which is a pretty petty if

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<v Speaker 4>you're coming from California to New York and back. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I would estimate, I don't know. Someone who's in the

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<v Speaker 4>industry would would probably correct me, tell me I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Minimum eighty thousand dollars on hudred thousand just for that trip.

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<v Speaker 3>There and back.

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<v Speaker 4>Minimum, that's probably what he's spent doing it. And to

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<v Speaker 4>not at least want to hear from a guy who's

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<v Speaker 4>won or Super Bowl won what four MVPs seems to

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<v Speaker 4>have a different perspective on the league, but could give

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<v Speaker 4>some insight to Aaron Glenn who's stepping into his first

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<v Speaker 4>opportunity as a head coach and doesn't know this organization,

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<v Speaker 4>regardless of what anyone wants to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't note as well as Aaron Rodgers. He's been there

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<v Speaker 3>the last two years.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got a much better feel for the pulse of

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<v Speaker 4>Woody Johnson how things have operated the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of years than Aaron Glenn does.

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<v Speaker 4>And he didn't want to take the time just to

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<v Speaker 4>pick his brand and talk to him, even if he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to see him as his quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of goes back to like the Bill Belichick

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<v Speaker 4>not getting more interviews, like teams didn't even want to

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<v Speaker 4>take the opportunity when you had a legitimate chance to

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<v Speaker 4>take the opportunity to pick one of the greatest football

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<v Speaker 4>minds mind in an interview, even if you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to hire him, just bring him into at least interview

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<v Speaker 4>him and see what we can get from him, right knowledge,

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<v Speaker 4>he'll be willing to give up and maybe pour into you,

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<v Speaker 4>your organization, your leaders, whoever. And so for Aaron Glenn,

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't even want to do that. You're just gonna

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<v Speaker 4>jump right to the point. And I guess I understand

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<v Speaker 4>to a degree he doesn't want to waste his time.

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<v Speaker 4>But then to Aaron Rodgers' point, just give them a

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<v Speaker 4>phone call, Like if it's over like that, just give

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<v Speaker 4>him a phone call. This makes it look like the Jets,

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<v Speaker 4>and LaVar has said it all along, our dysfunction, but

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<v Speaker 4>also now it looks even more like a clown show,

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<v Speaker 4>and it feels like you've got a head coach who, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe he has an idea of what he's trying to build,

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<v Speaker 4>but it almost makes it look even worse to how

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<v Speaker 4>this year is gonna go with Justin Fields as their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>If things don't go well, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A disaster because you had a guy you could have

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<v Speaker 4>brought back who's a first ballot Hall of Famer, And

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<v Speaker 4>so if he goes somewhere else and plays well and

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<v Speaker 4>not team's in the hunt, or if that and even

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<v Speaker 4>then like forget that, that might be even separate from

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<v Speaker 4>if the Jets just fall apart become a dumpster fire.

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<v Speaker 3>He could be a one and done.

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<v Speaker 4>Like these are some of the things that start to

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<v Speaker 4>come out in the media where it puts more and

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<v Speaker 4>more pressure and makes everyone question, is this guy maybe

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<v Speaker 4>there's a reason why it took him so long to

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<v Speaker 4>become a head coach. He's been a great decordinator, he's

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<v Speaker 4>had a great reputation, but then you watch how he

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<v Speaker 4>handles this instance, this situation, I don't know, man, dysfunction,

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<v Speaker 4>clown show, whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the right back of the Jets are again. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a theory, and the theory is he is acting

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<v Speaker 3>off of off of the feelings of ownership. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen this happen before. I've been I've been a party

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<v Speaker 3>to Joe Gibbs falling victim to doing the same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was the leader of a team, I was the

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<v Speaker 3>face of a of a team of a franchise of

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<v Speaker 3>the town and due to a vendetta that was apparently

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't really even aware of it, but due to

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<v Speaker 3>a vendetta of the owner and how he turned his

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<v Speaker 3>feelings on how he felt about me, he tasked someone else,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's a coward. He tasked someone else to be

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<v Speaker 3>his henchman, and Joe Gibbs went for it. He took

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<v Speaker 3>the cheese, and his coward ass did the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>like head behind, you know, things he shot in the

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<v Speaker 3>head behind, and the conversations that he and I were having,

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<v Speaker 3>which was interesting because if media was where it was

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<v Speaker 3>at right now, I'd have probably did the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>that Aaron Rodgers did and had the conversation about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we probably be having the same conversation about how

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<v Speaker 3>you have a dysfunctional organization. I tend to believe that

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Glenn and handling Aaron Rodgers was totally doing with

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<v Speaker 3>the influence of what he had already had got from

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<v Speaker 3>and communicated with Woody Johnson in terms of how they

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<v Speaker 3>made him feel, in terms of what they think took

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<v Speaker 3>place with Aaron Rodgers in New York, and Aaron Glenn

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<v Speaker 3>was executing what his feelings were towards the situation with

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers, and did that under the influences and the

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<v Speaker 3>pretenses of what was fed to him once he came

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<v Speaker 3>to the New York Jets as their head coach. So

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<v Speaker 3>in a way, while we'll say, okay, maybe, as a

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<v Speaker 3>head coach, you don't allow for an owner or corporate

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<v Speaker 3>to dictate how you handle a situation. Keep your emotions

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<v Speaker 3>out of it. You are the head coach of this team.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to manage the relationships with these players differently.

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<v Speaker 3>But that could be also tongue in cheek, because we

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<v Speaker 3>all know this is the man that hires you. This

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<v Speaker 3>could be the man that fires you, whether it's a year,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it's two years, whatever it may be. And he's

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<v Speaker 3>already showing signs of trying to pacify dysfunction. That's my theory.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that Aaron Glenn would have wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>take the stance he took with Aaron Rodgers. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing Aaron Glenn, I would assume he would want the

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<v Speaker 3>best players on his team. I don't think he had

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<v Speaker 3>a choice. I don't think he had a choice in

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<v Speaker 3>the matter of keeping Aaron Rodgers on that roster based

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<v Speaker 3>upon the feelings that were going towards Aaron Rodgers and

0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Glenn was tasked to make that one of the

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<v Speaker 3>first things that he handled once taking the job.

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<v Speaker 2>So then Woody Johnson is still meddling in decisions, got it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the influence. I think the only way you

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<v Speaker 3>take because let's be clear, as former players, whether you're

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<v Speaker 3>a coach now, whether we just you know, whatever you're

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<v Speaker 3>doing in your life. When we see one another, we

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<v Speaker 3>greet each other a certain type of way. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to like, come out, You're not going to come

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<v Speaker 3>out a guy, hold on, And what type of way

0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:11.120
<v Speaker 3>is that? It's different than anybody else? Right you say, hey,

0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I come in. I kind of couple you. We greet

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<v Speaker 3>each other very differently than everybody else. But everybody else

0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.640
<v Speaker 3>to us, aren't us. I mean that's I if that,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm letting the fan base and people in on

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<v Speaker 3>a secret, I'm sorry to do that. It's not that

0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.680
<v Speaker 3>we think any less of you. It's just that we

0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.880
<v Speaker 3>don't think of you the same way we think of

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<v Speaker 3>one another. That's all. That's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry you if you.

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<v Speaker 4>Could give me the difference between you and Jonas kind

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<v Speaker 4>of seeing each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, somewhere on the street or whatever. Then and you

0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and I see one another, all right. If I saw Gentinus,

0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I'd be like, somebody, what's going on? Brah? If I

0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:59.280
<v Speaker 3>saw you, I'd be like you, what's up? Damn? How

0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.920
<v Speaker 3>your body feel? Kids? Is good? Everything? Good? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 3>All right? Man, I was good. I was gonna you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you always say it's good to see you, like

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<v Speaker 3>three four times when you see somebody that played, you'd

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<v Speaker 3>be like, man, it's good to see you, bro, man,

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<v Speaker 3>so good to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna point out like a racial component, but

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<v Speaker 2>you really buckled my knees when you went to.

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<v Speaker 3>Brady on that. Yeah, there's no real quick real quest.

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<v Speaker 3>Is great Jonas, that it exceeds race. Did you see

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<v Speaker 3>me on the street? Why do we greet each other?

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<v Speaker 3>Say again, how would that would me on the street?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey hey Brady, little top gun, Hey hey little up

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<v Speaker 3>top Jonas, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Hoss?

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<v Speaker 3>That's football? That's football talk though you can't use hosts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's you know, that's like maybe high school. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're really trying hard to be a meathead. Yeah you're Yeah,

0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.280
<v Speaker 3>that is sometimes cats like you try to overcompensate because

0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:54.760
<v Speaker 3>I want to be greeted that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the same thing if I see LeVar. If

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<v Speaker 2>I see LeVar, I'd be like, so.

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<v Speaker 6>That, you know, what's every time I see Jonas and

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<v Speaker 6>every time we walk together from like the set during

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<v Speaker 6>Radio rodor in Super Bowl, I always am like, Man,

0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.640
<v Speaker 6>if I had an oil can, I would try to

0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.400
<v Speaker 6>like just inject some oil into Jonas's joints just to

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<v Speaker 6>make him look a little smoother.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just please, it's very rigid. It's a very rigid, stiff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's vampire joints. That's not true.

0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.280
<v Speaker 4>There's zero there's like zero skip, zero limbs.

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<v Speaker 3>Zero anything. Because you get to where we go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm floating. All I've got in my body is blood

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<v Speaker 3>and it ain't mine.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know the vampire life. You know what we

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<v Speaker 2>go through.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's what's so funny about the Rogers discussion. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing yesterday people are you know, laying in like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, of course it's everybody else's fault. And he's

0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.520
<v Speaker 2>this and that and he's pointing fingers and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say, we're not talking about like

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<v Speaker 2>a high functioning, well respected history of great decisions and

0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>great moves and great we're talking about the Jets. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's plausible that the meeting happened exactly how it happened.

0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.280
<v Speaker 2>It's not like Rogers has been known to just lie. Okay,

0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.919
<v Speaker 2>people could put, oh, well, you know the COVID stuff

0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.679
<v Speaker 2>and all. No, you just he found a loophole in

0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.879
<v Speaker 2>his messaging and that's why people are still bitter about it.

0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.439
<v Speaker 2>But it's not like we're talking about oh well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just this is an organization that is pristine and

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<v Speaker 2>all they know is success him saying it about them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're the one guy who's got a problem with

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they handle things. There, No, we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>this for decades. It's the same story for decades. Insert quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a disaster, drafted, signed head coach. So like, when

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<v Speaker 2>I hear the pushback on things he's said, look, is

0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:10.720
<v Speaker 2>he a little bit arrogant?

0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he a little bit aloof at times? Does he

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<v Speaker 2>want to control the messaging? Does he like the attention

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<v Speaker 2>but claim that he does? Probably, But it still doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>admonish the Jets from being palpable in this whole situation

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<v Speaker 2>whatever I'm trying to say, palpable in this whole situation,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're a disaster and they've been a disaster for years.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've brought this point up before on our show

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<v Speaker 2>when the first couple of moves and couple of signs

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<v Speaker 2>are hey, we don't want any part of this. We're

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells saying no, we're good here.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was before we had any sort of intel

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<v Speaker 2>or information on what Woody Johnson's era with the Jets

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 2>was going to be. That should have been the indicator. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's something wrong here. So the pushback on Roger

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get because it's the Jets. They've done this

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<v Speaker 2>for decades and.

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<v Speaker 7>They didn't even play that bad. It's to me, he's

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 7>better than Justin Fields last year. He's better than Justin Fields.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I point out for one instance.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't point out though, where I think a lot of

0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.120
<v Speaker 4>people have dug their feet in and it's over as

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<v Speaker 4>far as how they feel.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the whole vaccination thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that was such a polarizing issue that there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of people who maybe they're football.

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<v Speaker 3>Fans, maybe they're not.

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:40.040
<v Speaker 4>But whenever you talk about politics, religion, things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and obviously the whole vaccination deal it was polit a

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<v Speaker 4>size and that's why it became so polarizing. But the

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<v Speaker 4>way he messaged the immunized comment and how people took

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<v Speaker 4>that and how this people drew a line in the

0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:02.480
<v Speaker 4>sand back then, and they've never been willing to concede

0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.439
<v Speaker 4>on any of that. I mean, this is like outside

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.240
<v Speaker 4>of a sports conversation, Like the people who believed in

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 4>the people who didn't.

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 3>They drew a line and they're not ever willing to

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 3>cross that.

0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Like no one's even like even right now, regardless of

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.760
<v Speaker 4>whatever report comes out, whatever side you were on, they're

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:18.560
<v Speaker 4>sticking to that. They're like, there's no way you're going

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:22.879
<v Speaker 4>to convince them otherwise. And unfortunately, like he put himself rightfully,

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.879
<v Speaker 4>so he put himself in the middle of that with

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<v Speaker 4>how he handled that, and I think that actually might

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.320
<v Speaker 4>be the most polarizing thing that has still followed him

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.439
<v Speaker 4>to this day, outside of even how he's handled things

0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 4>with being so open and honest about, you know, things

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.640
<v Speaker 4>in Green Bay and how the drafting of Jordan Love went,

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.480
<v Speaker 4>or even his time with Brett Favre and everything else

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 4>up there, and now with the New York Jets and

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 4>everything else in his personal life that's become public, which

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 4>with the documentary. So to me, as much as he

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:55.880
<v Speaker 4>is very unique as an athlete or as a quarterback

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.840
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL, there's also an element of like that

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.639
<v Speaker 4>singular thing, to me created the biggest divide for the

0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.640
<v Speaker 4>people who are either for Aaron Rodgers or like Aaron

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.399
<v Speaker 4>Rodgers or against them. And it's kind of crazy when

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 4>you think about it, and people can say that's not true,

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.920
<v Speaker 4>but you're lying, Like I see it. To this day,

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.120
<v Speaker 4>there's people who still have like ruined friendships on as

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:20.480
<v Speaker 4>close with their family. There's all sorts of issues from

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.600
<v Speaker 4>that singular moment in time with the way people kind

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.439
<v Speaker 4>of drew a line in the sand, and they're not

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 4>ever willing to cross it and they're not ever willing

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<v Speaker 4>to go back on whatever happened back then.

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<v Speaker 3>He never breaks character either though. That's I think that

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.919
<v Speaker 3>that really irritates a lot of people. And if I

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:38.320
<v Speaker 3>were a betting man, I would say the way Aaron

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Rodgers conducts himself is an irritant to people. Like a

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Woody Johnson, he does not break character. Oh yeah, and

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.800
<v Speaker 3>he answers questions, especially almost as if it's like a riddle,

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.080
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like he doesn't break character.

0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 3>He stays in that same well you know. And and

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 3>all I wanted to say was yep, I can't you

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.439
<v Speaker 3>could have done at this by the phone. Well you

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:03.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know me. Well you're right. And and that's why

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't like the witty comments that the comebacks. It's

0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 3>not it doesn't help. It doesn't help, Like show me

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.240
<v Speaker 3>some emotion, like I'll beat your assed like what oh

0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 3>whoa Aaron Rodgers said what you know what I mean?

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Like it is it is funny how we they don't

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>break character. It is funny how we pick and choose

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.040
<v Speaker 2>you know who. We're still gonna punish for things that

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 2>were done and said five years ago during COVID.

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 3>A long time ago. Yeah. Well, Woody Johnson ain't thinking

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.800
<v Speaker 3>about the immunization. He's thinking about how Aaron rod tried

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 3>to ruin him. He tried to ruin me. No, he's

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 3>got there. You better get him. Someone say he's got

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 3>a vested interest, and somebody getting I can't do it myself,

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:49.920
<v Speaker 3>you guys handling.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have an up on the fan that was

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<v Speaker 2>hit by a golf ball by Billy Horschel yesterday at

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<v Speaker 2>that tournament whatever the tournament was, because thatth looked grotesque?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see that, Brady? The guy shin who took

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<v Speaker 2>a golf ball while in the gallery and horn shot Horse.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always a big fan though, I'm always a big

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<v Speaker 4>fan of those who are sticking it out, able to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of tough it out through it and basically providing

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<v Speaker 4>a backboard for professional golfers just in case they sprayed

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit outside of the fairway. There's always a

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<v Speaker 4>nice fan in there to help bounce it right back

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<v Speaker 4>in or at least stop.

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<v Speaker 3>It right there in the rough. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He So this guy got a golf ball straight in

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<v Speaker 2>the shin and horseall went over. I think he outlined

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<v Speaker 2>it and then autographed his leg afterwards, and it is revolting.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully hopefully that that gentleman is okay and can

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<v Speaker 2>continue on and join the tournament, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 2>Gallery there whatever whatever tournament that was not named the Masters.

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<v Speaker 2>better get Maco. The Cleveland Browns are holding the number

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<v Speaker 2>two pick in the draft. The betting odds have indicated

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<v Speaker 2>that Travis Hunter will be the pick at number two,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on if the Browns are picking there or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows, but that is the expectation that as far

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<v Speaker 2>as the gambling odds go, that it could be the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns taking Travis Hunter. And so the GM of the

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry, spoke about Travis Hunter's skill set

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<v Speaker 2>and also compared him to one of the all time

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<v Speaker 2>great talents that we are currently watching.

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<v Speaker 1>That number two pick is that's kind of how he's viewed,

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy that can do ball versus.

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<v Speaker 3>Just his one side of the other.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I don't see it that way. I think it's

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<v Speaker 9>and I'm going to use a crossburn now, it's a

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<v Speaker 9>little bit like Otani, right, where you know, when he's

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<v Speaker 9>playing one side, he's an outstanding player. If he's a pitcher,

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<v Speaker 9>he's a hitter, he's an outstanding player. You obviously get

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<v Speaker 9>a unicorn if you use them both ways.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So he's getting the Otani comp. He hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>played in.

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<v Speaker 3>The that's not a good yes, not a good comp.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because what is otan? What does Otani play when

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<v Speaker 3>he's not being a picture? Well? Well done? Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>was more so his he doesn't need interpret that's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that sneaky shot. They're like, why do you go down?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you all? Is right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Brady with an undercut? You know, just a little something,

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<v Speaker 2>a little under underneath.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'll say, is his normal position is

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<v Speaker 3>not picture correct? Doesn't he pay like shortstop or something? No? Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a d H d H picture. You know he's

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<v Speaker 3>not a picture all the time. Well, he's not a picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't be miss miss like leading.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's why, you know, if you want to say it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a fair comp. First of all, because Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't done anything in the league yet, But also don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. No, I'm just saying no, I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>is that we have no idea if it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>work out, And if it's the Browns, who.

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<v Speaker 3>Knows, well, that's even more true.

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<v Speaker 2>But Otani he's working to come back. He is hoping

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<v Speaker 2>to pitch at some point this year, and he's a

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<v Speaker 2>great hitter. And so the.

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball players play both sides. They NBA or you know, basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>they play both sides, right, like you play offense and

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<v Speaker 3>you play defense.

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<v Speaker 2>We've never seen anybody be able to pitch and hit

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<v Speaker 2>the way Otani has.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they go both ways. They do both. Well. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that's you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 3>the defense. Yeah, it's not require for you to do

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<v Speaker 3>both in football. So that's why I say it's a

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<v Speaker 3>poor comp But I mean, I get what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 4>You're basically saying, like, for example, if we're counting pitching

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<v Speaker 4>his defense right in baseball, which it would be correct,

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<v Speaker 4>it'd be like him playing pitcher and like, and then

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<v Speaker 4>Travis Hunter playing cornerback and d end right like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>in essence what you're saying. I'm saying, you play both

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<v Speaker 4>quarter and also a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Quarterback. D n White, Dane I mean, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 3>the equivalent of show Hey, yeah, but I would.

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<v Speaker 8>That.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I just think that with with Travis Hunter, you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting a unicorn. If he can play at a high

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<v Speaker 3>level and play here here, here's the thing, right, If

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<v Speaker 3>you play on that cornerback and he can become an

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<v Speaker 3>All Pro, that is phenomenal in itself. Period. If he

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<v Speaker 3>plays receiver and can become an All Pro, that is

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenal period. You know, some of the greatest players who

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<v Speaker 3>have ever played this game only have like like a

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<v Speaker 3>handful or less than a handful of first team All

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<v Speaker 3>Pro bids. Right, So if you're good enough to be

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<v Speaker 3>an All Pro player and on that list at your position,

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<v Speaker 3>that's phenomenal. Now, if you have that type of talent,

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<v Speaker 3>are we are we adjusting our scope? Are we saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he should be an All Pro corner but just be

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<v Speaker 3>a serviceable receiver, or should he be an All Pro

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<v Speaker 3>receiver and be a serviceable cornerback? Like what are we looking?

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<v Speaker 3>How are we? Because again the conversation that we had

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<v Speaker 3>the other day when we were debating, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>you said, you know his status, we looked up his

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<v Speaker 3>stat lines or you looked up his stat lines Q

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<v Speaker 3>and made the point because I think t mac is

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<v Speaker 3>is a guy that is special at the receiver's position.

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<v Speaker 3>But the point is is that if you believe that

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<v Speaker 3>he can be an elite playmaking receiver where he goes

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<v Speaker 3>number two overall in the draft, are you expecting him

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<v Speaker 3>to do that at both positions or is it just one?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I think that plays a major part in all

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<v Speaker 3>of this. Is it both ways or is it just

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<v Speaker 3>one and serviceable to the other. Well, here's what I'd

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<v Speaker 3>say is right if we look at the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>And people always say, oh, you get a fifty percent

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<v Speaker 4>chance of getting a hit on a guy in the

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<v Speaker 4>first round, right, people will say that, well, technically, if

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 4>he plays two positions, gotta get fifty percent chance at

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<v Speaker 4>either one. And so I think the position versatility or

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<v Speaker 4>flexibility is where the value comes in. Is if you

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<v Speaker 4>think he can be like he was in college, a

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<v Speaker 4>top wide receiver and or a top cornerback, then it

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<v Speaker 4>increases your odds of hitting on that pick, of getting

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that is maybe a gold jacket guy at

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<v Speaker 4>one of those two positions. Now, if it ends up

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<v Speaker 4>being both, great, but from just a pure odds betting standpoint,

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a betting man and you're saying, I can

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<v Speaker 4>increase my odds of this player being an impactful players starter,

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 4>pro bowler, All Pro, Hall of Famer at one of

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<v Speaker 4>two positions, it takes some pressure off of you, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you could play him a wide receiver if

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<v Speaker 4>things aren't going as well, put him at cornerback. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I think, I have a hard time believing that one

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<v Speaker 4>of those two isn't gonna stick for him, at least

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<v Speaker 4>based on what I've seen on tape. Again, I keep

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<v Speaker 4>going back to I think his natural fit for me,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is just more of watching him play both.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, don't get me wrong, he's got natural instincts

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<v Speaker 4>as far as a ball catcher, a great hand, eye coordination, suddenness,

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<v Speaker 4>and his route running.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's still very raw with.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 4>His route running and that's something that takes time to

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<v Speaker 4>develop whether you're Travis Hunt or any other wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>But as a cornerback, he just has a feel for

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<v Speaker 4>the game and how he sees the game and how

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<v Speaker 4>he sees the quarterback and how that you know, and

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 4>different route combinations. I just I feel like that position

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 4>comes to him more naturally and So all I'm saying

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<v Speaker 4>is if you could take someone who proves your chances

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<v Speaker 4>of it being a hit as a general manager, that

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<v Speaker 4>goes on your resume to showcase to the owner and

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 4>everyone else that hey, this is you know, this was

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<v Speaker 4>a hit. This was another another hit, another one that

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<v Speaker 4>worked out for me as a general manager, You're gonna

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 4>take that guy. So I don't know which will end

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<v Speaker 4>up playing on. Maybe the Browns will do both, like

0:32:19.400 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 4>maybe that'll be part of the intrigue for twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 4>If this is a team that's still at the bottom

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<v Speaker 4>of the AFC North because of the quarterback situation, at

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 4>least you're selling one of those dynamic players we've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 4>potentially in his rookie season trying to play both ways.

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<v Speaker 4>There's something to be said for that.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's listed as both ways, how are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to pay him?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you have to worry about You don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to worry about that for at least three more years,

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<v Speaker 4>But but how do you do you pay him for

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<v Speaker 4>both positions?

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Because that's a roster he's if he is a full

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:56.440
<v Speaker 3>time receiver and he's a full time corner, your your CBA,

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>the draft and the rookie draft, Sellar pool slotted, so

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really have anything to do with you know now, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>where where he'll get a bonus is his play snap percentage.

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.479
<v Speaker 3>So remember, because even when he's paid as a rookie,

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 3>he'll get a huge bonus at the end of the

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 3>year if he's playing both ways because of the amount

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 3>of snaps. He's playing on both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where he'll be able to.

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<v Speaker 4>Cash in on that. And that's where the eno. You know,

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.560
<v Speaker 4>NFLP has done a good job and trying to reward

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 4>guys who aren't being paid as much, and especially as rookies,

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 4>but they're playing a lot, so it's at least covering

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<v Speaker 4>a Porsche of that gap. And I understand what you're saying,

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 4>but that's three years away. That's that's the first opportunity.

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>That man became an All pro on both sides of

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>the ball as a receiver and as a corner, which

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>we've never seen that happen ever before. How are you

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 3>going to pay that man?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you, because I think it's along the

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 2>lines of what you were thinking, LeVar, but I'll kind

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of throw it at you. Guys if he was just

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<v Speaker 2>a wide receiver, Is he in consideration for the number

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>two pick?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, if he just there's no receiver being considered, right.

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>So if he was just a corner, would be would

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<v Speaker 2>he be in consideration for the number two pick.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's a good way of putting, because I would

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 4>say yes, though I would say yes.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 3>In that regard. I say, he's not a top five

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 3>pick at corner. I think he's more like Will Howard.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Is a Will Howard who the corner out of Mill Johnson,

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.919
<v Speaker 3>Will Johns, Will Johnson. I say he's more like that,

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 3>He's more in that that category. Then again, no, I

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 3>take that back. I take I take that back. I

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 3>take that back because I'm thinking about Champ Bailey or

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 3>he's on the level of I mean, actually, yeah, he's

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 3>on the level of a Charles Woodson more so than

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 3>even a Chant Bailey. I mean he's in that category

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 3>of players. So yes, yes, he would. So I'll put

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:41.879
<v Speaker 3>it this way.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 4>I think I think he's the best corner and I

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 4>do think in a class that by the way, it's

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 4>not a great wide receiver class. So between t mac

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Luther Burden, you know, Matthew Gold's got a lot of

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 4>buzz in Texas because he's so fast, you know, I

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 4>don't know that you go and watch the tape and say, like,

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 4>can he come in and be immediate number one? And

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 4>that's what you're usually drafting him to be. So it's

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 4>kind of interesting. But I think he's one of the best,

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 4>if not the best, in the wide receiver class too,

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 4>So it all depends on how you view him. But

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 4>I think as a cornerback without a doubt. As a

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver, it might be partially due to the wide

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:16.719
<v Speaker 4>receiver class though too.

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a top he's a top five pick. He's

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 3>a top five pick at cornerback. I'm not going to

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.360
<v Speaker 3>go I'm not going to go that far at receiver. Cornerback.

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 3>He's tough, fat pick. Yeah.

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's well, it looks like it'll be in Cleveland,

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.000
<v Speaker 2>So it would behoove them to try and maximize his abilities,

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Like if you've got that sort of talent, would it?

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.959
<v Speaker 2>All right? Ethertherwise, you know, am I losing sooner?

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:51.000
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0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.200
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0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So we mentioned now what the Cleveland Browns might do

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.959
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback or excuse me, at the number two pick,

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>and the feeling is they're going to go with Travis Hunter.

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 2>That's at least what the speculation is. And the question

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 2>then becomes, what's the long term planet quarterback? Well, listen,

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Berry, the GM there says it's a little too

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 2>early to tell whether or not Deshaun Watson can play

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five. I'd like to offer this up.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Some would argue it's debatable whether or not he's played

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 2>yet for the organization based on what has happened, suspensions, performance, etc.

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:29.359
<v Speaker 3>Etc.

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, now they've got a quarterback room that's got

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett. Joe Flacco was brought back

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 2>he wont comeback Player of the Year a couple of

0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and so the discussion was being had with

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the fan in Cleveland. He was talking with Ken Carmon

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and Anthony Lima about the development of quarterbacks in the

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 2>NFL and had this to.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 10>Say, I do think it's important for young quarterbacks to

0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 10>be able to learn. You don't want to put a

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 10>young quarterback in a football game before he's actually ready,

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 10>because you know, there's just so many things in the

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 10>cycle in this league these days is just so quick.

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 10>You want these guys to be ready. And I do

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 10>think there's huge advantages to being able to sit back

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 10>and make sure you get and gain that confidence and

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 10>and really really learn the game and get the team

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 10>surrounded in a good way so that you can go

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 10>out there and have success. And I think that stuff

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 10>happens naturally through like competition in different rooms. And you know,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 10>like the more competition you have and the more people

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 10>you have competing, the more conversations come up and the

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 10>more people learn. I think that's true in not just

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 10>in sports, but in every environment. You want good people

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 10>in a room together that can push each other and

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 10>then you'll get the most out of everybody.

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>So that was Joe Flacco talking with the fan in

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland about the development of quarterbacks there.

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean, well, yeah, he's you know, forty years old now,

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 4>or you know, that's that's what it sounds like. I mean,

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 4>when you played for as long as he has seventeen years,

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 4>it's gonna come off that way. And I think, look,

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 4>going back to his experience, he was a guy who started,

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:14.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, as a rookie, and you know, they had

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 4>a lot of team success. He was good as a rookie.

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 4>He continually got better and better and better. But you know,

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 4>when you go back and look at the course of

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 4>his career, he had continually developed into the position after

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 4>his first couple of years to really be a guy

0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 4>that they could rely on, in particular in the clutch.

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.160
<v Speaker 4>And I think what he probably learned from his looking

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 4>back at his rookie ear and even just playing for

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 4>as long as he played, is you know, and this

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 4>is kind of happens. I think to all of us

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 4>as fathers, like you look at your child or you

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 4>look at younger generations and you're like, oh, I remember

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 4>going through that, Like this is probably what they don't

0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 4>know or this is what they need to know in

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 4>order to be able to do this the right way

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 4>or be successful. And now again, playing as long as

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 4>he has, he's seeing all that in real time as

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 4>he's you know, had to kind of come in and

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 4>pinch hit, if you will, for a lot of you know,

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 4>younger guys his Stinton Cleveland back in twenty twenty three,

0:39:16.880 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 4>a couple of years ago, and even last year for

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Anthony Richardson, and I think he's very aware of how

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 4>different things are now. You know, for quarterbacks coming to

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 4>the league, where they draft them, they play them, and

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 4>they rinse them out right, they don't get any time

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 4>to really sit, watch and learn unless you're a part

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 4>of an organization that tries to do a right or

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 4>if you've got a Hall of Fame guy sitting there

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 4>in front of him, or at least a Pro Bowl

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 4>caliber guy like an Alex Smith or in the case

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 4>of Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love, so

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 4>that that's really few and far between, right, most teams

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 4>are hoping they could find a guy that's gonna be

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 4>a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback, let alone a Hall of Famer.

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 4>And so I think is you know, his words are

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 4>wise in the sense of probably everything he's experience as

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 4>a starter, as a backup, as a guy who look

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 4>at he's made a ton of money at this point

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 4>in time in his career, He's won a Super Bowl,

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 4>he's he's continually been able to prove that he can

0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 4>still do.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 3>It, and so he does a need to.

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 4>I think there's a desire of one two and at

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 4>the same time being able to be a guy who's

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 4>he's got five kids. You know, he's he's a family man,

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 4>So he probably sees it from a lot different perspective,

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 4>uh than a lot of guys who played the position,

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 4>especially a lot of the young guys. Dang kids. He

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 4>can sling that pill. Huh. He's a quarterback on and I.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Think I think he also said he was, uh it

0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>was kind of nice to get away from his kids

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 2>for a little bit.

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>He was kind of half joking, but I think he

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:41.839
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to break.

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a I think it's a wise move

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>to bring in Flaco for one reason and one reason alone.

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.800
<v Speaker 3>We could work from there. In my estimation, it's because

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>you have someone that can stabilize an unstable environment as

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>as the quarterback. I think the Deshaun Watson conversation has

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.560
<v Speaker 3>created so much, so much confusion, so much you know

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of you know, is a conflict of how you

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 3>want to feel about the situation, is it you know,

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 3>what's next for the situation. There's so much surrounding Deshaun

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Watson that has been a an agent of deterioration for

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:31.440
<v Speaker 3>the Cleveland Browns. To bring a rookie into that equation,

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 3>whether they're prepared for mentally, emotionally, physically to be able

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 3>to handle it or not. It's really an unfair task

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>and wait to put on the shoulders of a newly acquired,

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 3>a newly hired talent for that position for your team

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 3>and knowing that that that element is still there, like

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 3>whoever goes in has to accept the fact that Deshaun

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Watson still has to be a part of the conversation

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 3>in terms of whose team is this at that position.

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 3>That would be the first thing that I would say

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 3>would be the wisest move in bringing in a quarterback

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 3>would be to bring in a guy like Joe Flacco

0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 3>who things like that are not going to bother him.

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 3>He's already clearly shown you that it's not going to

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 3>bother him. He's on borrowed time anyway, He's at the

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 3>end of his career, and anything that he gets from

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.359
<v Speaker 3>this moment on is he's playing with house money. So

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 3>he's going to go in there. He's familiar with the

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 3>front office, he's familiar with guys that are in the

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>locker room, and he's going to be a positive force

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 3>to the players that are in there and the other

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 3>people that are around, including the fan base. He's a

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 3>positive asset to add to your team and to add

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 3>to your room. And hey, if Picket proves out then

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 3>and is able to learn some things from Flacco during

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 3>this time, and you get get a bonus and Picket developing.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 3>If you take a draft pick somewhere, they got a few.

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:17.760
<v Speaker 3>They they got the thirty third pick in the second round.

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's that's a pretty pretty, uh pretty good position

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>to be in to either be able to move up

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 3>maybe a little bit in the second round or sit

0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 3>there and somebody's going to possibly fall to you at

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 3>that thirty third pick. I think that for what it's worth,

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 3>and you may not hear me say this often, I

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 3>think Cleveland played this particular situation the right way in

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 3>terms of a quarterback that can handle what's going on

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 3>right now in Cleveland.

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>When he talks about like developing young quarterbacks and you

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 2>know how to how teams go about or how they

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>should go about it, it still blows my mind that

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>And I know it's not an exact science and every

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>players different and all that, but it still blows my

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>mind that you draft a guy as almost he's an investment,

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know a whole hell of a lot

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 2>about investing, but I do know that it does take

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>some time, and you don't want to, like, you know,

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.839
<v Speaker 2>manipulate your investment too soon, because you got to let

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>it grow a little bit.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 3>You gotta let it.

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And Joe Flacco's point was like, man, I think we

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>got to be a little bit more patient, But nowadays

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>they're just not. They want to know now, all right,

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 2>can you play now?

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Who the hell knows? Like it could be situation, it

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.240
<v Speaker 2>could be time, it could be another scenario altogether. Alex

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Smith took years before he developed. He went through like

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 2>seven coaches or offensive coordinators, whatever it was, and finally

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>he found something. Had they pulled the rugout early on,

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 2>he would have never developed into a guy that, you know,

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 2>brought Kansas City to where they were before Patrick Mahomes

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 2>took over and got him over the hump. You look

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>at Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield. Man, if you would have

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 2>talked to the Brown's back then the book was written

0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>on Baker Mayfield. And yet for some reason it just

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 2>feels like, no, we got to know. Now we need

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 2>an answer. Now it's an investment. But no, no, no, we

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 2>got to have some answers, We've got to have some returns.

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Now, I feel like Baker Mayfield might have done something,

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 3>they flirted with the wrong person or something man, And.

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought, look, I think I think Rogers.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 3>In person, somebody's hey, he upsets somebody.

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 2>I think Rogers, you know, has kind of made this

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>point before to where like, man, there's there's got to

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>be some trust, like some hey, look, we are trusting

0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>You're making the decision, and we're trusting this pick at

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>this time, and let's let it grow. Instead it's like,

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>now he can't play, he's got to go like and

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 2>there's so many examples of that, And I don't get

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 2>why in a in a business like the NFL, where

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you are dependent on everybody around you to be successful,

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 2>why it all comes down to, now that guy can't

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 2>play well, No, Like, you've got to produce the environment

0:45:59.920 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>for him to play. And that seems to be lost

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>in so many situations.

0:46:04.120 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 4>So I keep going back to, too, how different the

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 4>game is at the NFL level from the college level.

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 4>And I hope people understand this that RPOs they're not

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 4>as capable or impactful of the NFL level because the

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 4>rule that you could only have an eligible lineman, for example,

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 4>downfield only a yard.

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 3>In college and high school.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 4>It's three and honestly it's more like three and a

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 4>half because it's so hard for officials to be able

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 4>to see it at that point in the play. I

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 4>mean when when you picture or think about an offensive

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:44.759
<v Speaker 4>lineman moving three yards downfield, that's a couple seconds into

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 4>the play, right, he's moving through a gigantic human being

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 4>across from Even if he's uncovered moving up to the

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 4>next level, he's still trying to get a sense for

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 4>what that linebacker is going to be because don't get

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 4>a twisted it is a run play, all right. There's

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 4>different types of passprotex is. There's pass pro, there's run

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:04.799
<v Speaker 4>action pro. Where it's a pass play. The linemen know

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 4>not to go downfield, but they are doing their best

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 4>to block it like it's a run and so their

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 4>responsibilities in regards to pressure are off. They don't adjust

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 4>anything they're doing. They are relying on the fake then

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 4>a run action pass protection to be able to take

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<v Speaker 4>care of whatever is going on and pre snap. If

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 4>the quarterback sees something that he's like, this is a disaster,

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 4>you get out of it right, you audible out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's entirely different with an RPO, it is a

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 4>run play. That quarterback has the opportunity to hand that

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 4>football off high school, college level, even at the NFL level,

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 4>the way it's taught, and then you're triggering or you're

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:46.719
<v Speaker 4>reading off one player on defense, and so the game

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.240
<v Speaker 4>has become so simplified at the high school to college

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.439
<v Speaker 4>level to where you have one of two choices. You're

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<v Speaker 4>either keeping it and you're gonna throw, depending on what

0:47:56.360 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 4>that defender does, if he steps up to stop the run,

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 4>or if we still back in coverage, you're gonna hand

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 4>the football off. And honestly, RPOs have replaced what used

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 4>to be quick game, the three step game, where even

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.240
<v Speaker 4>in three step drop it sounds somewhat simple right one, two.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, you're throwing the football.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not really able to hitch up in the pocket

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.880
<v Speaker 4>because you're not getting any depth. You still had to

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 4>read coverage. Even in a three step game, you had

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<v Speaker 4>a one high or two high look, meaning if there's

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 4>one safety in middle of the field, you're working to

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 4>your left. If there's two high safeties right, a split

0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:30.879
<v Speaker 4>safety look, you're working to your right, or there could

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<v Speaker 4>be a three by one set where you're checking your

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<v Speaker 4>backside singled up route.

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<v Speaker 3>If you like it, you take it. If not, you're

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<v Speaker 3>probably working a quick progression to the other side.

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<v Speaker 4>So that used to be like the simplest form of

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 4>passing back when I was young, back when a lot

0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 4>of quarterbacks were growing up through an era and a

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 4>time where you used to play under center a little

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:48.600
<v Speaker 4>bit more, or even if you were in shotgun.

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 3>That was part of the quick game. The RPO game has.

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<v Speaker 4>Essentially replaced that because you get the ability to put

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:01.040
<v Speaker 4>the defense in conflict much more. There's that run pass

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 4>conflict of reading that overhang defender or whoever whatever defender

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 4>it is to decide if you want to throw or

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 4>run the football. And if you think about what three

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 4>step passing game was, it was like a glorified handoff.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a higher percentage pass that you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>able to to complete and not get a big gain,

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 4>but move the sticks or at least get enough of

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<v Speaker 4>a game where it puts you in third and manageable,

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 4>or you're back on track if you happen to take

0:49:26.960 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 4>a loss on first down and so you're back in

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 4>third and manageable, right, you know, in those instances. So

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<v Speaker 4>to me, the subtle difference is in how the game

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<v Speaker 4>is taught at high school to college and now to

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL. Is one of those things that it takes

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 4>time and then you're making these decisions in seconds. One

0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 4>one thousand and two, one thousand balls got to be out,

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 4>and you've got all these other things you have to.

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Be worried about.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not really that way at a lot of the colleges,

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 4>even with some of the NFO. You know, coaches that

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:03.359
<v Speaker 4>are down at that level or even what they're asking him,

0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what they're doing. And it's why the NFL

0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 4>has had to adapt a lot of their offensive scheme

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<v Speaker 4>to what these quarterbacks are accustomed to doing because they

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 4>don't have the time to develop and no one has

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 4>the patience anymore to see if they can develop into

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.200
<v Speaker 4>being that guy. They have to be able to show

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 4>it in their rookie year otherwise everyone throws them the wayside.

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<v Speaker 3>That's weird, man.

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<v Speaker 2>It's unfortunate for these guys that just get lumped in

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<v Speaker 2>like n Think about Kenny Pickett, what's he on his

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:29.280
<v Speaker 2>third team?

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Third team? He just got drafted and he just got traded.

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 2>He's traded twice, so this third team like he just

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 2>got into the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Like not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>We were at that draft in Vegas when he was

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<v Speaker 2>when he was selected, and just the books apparently already

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<v Speaker 2>written