1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian. There's no car out there that can't be fixed. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: It just takes some four cars. Every little thing you do, 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, where the boots open and the grease 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: is contaminated, and all that grits already rode grits inside 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: the joint, you know the damage is done. Welcome to 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 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Today, we 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: are welcome a new affiliate to the Car Doctor family 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: before we kick off this area. That's right, we just 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: keep growing. I don't know, the sky's the limit FI 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: w PSL Point St. Lucy Port St. Lucy, Florida. Um, 32 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: they have wanted us to come down there and do 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: a live remote, but I said, now, Tom Ray in 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: a bathing suit probably really wouldn't be a great thing. 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: So I turned them down. I said, there's no way 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: we're doing that. I've seen Tom's legs before. I'm a 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: chick magnet. Well yeah, you're a chick magnet. Alright. They 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: see you and they repel. They just the other direction. 39 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: It's you know, poll polarization in the other direction. But anyway, 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: we welcome w PSL Port St. Lucy, Florida. We thank 41 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: them for taking the show and helping us spread the cause, 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: and we'll do our best. We absolutely well, let's kick 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: the garage doors open. Let's get over to well, let's 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: go to Melvine in Baltimore and see what's going on 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: here in Melvine? Oh three Honda Civic overheated? Was that 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: you on the side of the road Sunday, Memorial Day 47 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: weekend that I saw by the out by the White 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: Marshall Highway, White marshamall it just check it? Yeah, but 49 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: I having a having a problem. No, uh, my cooling 50 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: is going over to the deserve, but it's not coming back. 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: And observed is stilling not? But everything works, the heat work, 52 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Adword, do the cooling fans 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: come on Melvine? Yeah? One time eighth when it comes on? 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Um uh and when I guess you know saying when 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: ANTI get up the temperature, they kicks on for you know, 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: on the a few seconds and then it goes off. 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: So give me this scenario. Is it you still are 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: it out first thing in the morning, you're driving down 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: the road cold? Is it that you know after ten 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes it just starts to boil over and overheat? 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: Do you physically see steam? Does the gauge pin? Give 62 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: me the give me the you know exactly? How do 63 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: you know it's overheating because attempting gays go up to 64 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: stop going up towards the um. Okay, so the temperature 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: gauge does go up when you when you know, And 66 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't want you to lift the hood when it's hot. 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: I always have a concern about lifting a hot hood 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: on a hot car that's overheating. We already know it's overheating. 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: But if you were have you have you felt the 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: upper and lower radiator hos? Is one hot? One cold? Uh? 71 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: The other one that you usually the hot is? Okay? 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: How hot? Is hot? Uncomfortable to hold? Yeah? What's up? Yeah? 73 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: What's up? Preaking my hand on it? I see you 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: going up. Yeah, it's uncomfortable to hold. But um, lower 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: one is not my alcohol? Okay? And right, the lower 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: one you can hold. It's it's cool or warm to 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: the touch. What what sort of repairs have been tried already? 78 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: I tried? I changed the thermostay, Yeah, that's about it. 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the sense of right next to thermostay? Well, yeah, right? 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: That the the the you know, the cooling fan tempt 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: switch on the thermostat housing is a common failure. Also, 82 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: all right, we know the cooling fan runs. What you 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: could try? All right, we could do this a couple 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: of ways. Do you have access to a scam tool 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: of any kind? No? Alright, so let's let's let's do 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: this old school simple. If you just let the car 87 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: sit there in idle, when the temperature gauge gets roughly 88 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: halfway up the scale, does the fan come on and 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: stay on by itself without air conditioning? For get air 90 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: conditioning for a minute. No, so so you don't see 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: the fans run unless you turn on the A C. No. Uh, 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: I see the fans run. You know what I mean? 93 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Because uh, turn the car on and the idols like 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: you said, idols. You know what I'm saying. That click on, 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for a couple of uh, 96 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, probably for about half a minute or so 97 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: or less, and then they cut off. But if you 98 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: usually I could drive it for I could dive for 99 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: like almost two hours before anything started happening, because, like 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: I said, the coolness going into the reserve, but it's 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: not going back through the system. Right. But you can 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: hear me out of second Melvine. If you let the 103 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: car if you start the car up and let it idle. Well, well, 104 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: will the car overheats sitting there? Will the temperature gauge 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: go up and overheat sitting there? Uh? Probably about that? 106 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: If I let it run like that for um, for 107 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: probably like the hour hour and a half. Just let 108 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: it run in like that in that hour, in that 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: hour time period. Does the cooling fan come on? Yes? Uh? 110 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: It clicks on? Does it? Does it come on? Does 111 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: it come on and stay on? When the temperature gage 112 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: gets over half scale? Does the cooling fan come on 113 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: and stay on? Okay? So the so the first problem 114 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: is you're seeing the fans cycle, but you're not seeing 115 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: them stay on when you need it the most, when 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: the engine is hot, right, okay, when when it overheats, 117 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: even with the new thermostat, is one hose hot and 118 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: the other hose cold? I haven't you know what I mean, 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: because like I have really been driving me, you know what. 120 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: I'm right? But but so here's what you gotta do. 121 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Then let's then let's baseline this. Alright, let's let's baseline 122 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: this all right. Step one start the cart well, Step one, 123 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: take the radiator cap off. When the engine is called 124 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: make sure it's got enough coolingt in it, all right. 125 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: I want to just mention that there is a near 126 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: bleed procedure for that engine when you do a thermostat, 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: and you need to do that. If you haven't done 128 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: so already, you'll find it in a service manual. There's 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a bleeder on the engine. There's would be, or you're 130 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: gonna use a cooling overflow funnel and burp it that way. 131 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: That's number one, Number two, proper coolant level. Number three, 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: run the car until the car warms up. Temperature gauge 133 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: gets to half or or slightly two thirds scale. That's 134 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: approximately where the fans gonna come on when the engine's warm. 135 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: If you've got good circulation, if the stats open, it's 136 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: not air bound. A proposal be hot or painful to 137 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: the touch. One of them is gonna be hot to 138 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: the touch, the other one is gonna be cold. It's 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: usually the upper is the upper is the warm one. 140 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: All right, as long as you've got good circulation, we 141 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: can eliminate a radiator as a potential issue. And the 142 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: fact that this happened sitting there at idle and we 143 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: don't get proper it sounds like we're not getting proper 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: fan operation. Let's go chase the cooling fan, unplug the 145 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: cooling temperature switch on the thermostat housing, put a jumper 146 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: between the green wire on the switch and the black 147 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: ground wire. The fans should run. If the fan runs, 148 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: then you want to try and figure out. You've got 149 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: to sort of make sure as the radio are not restricted, 150 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: and where is engine temperature? This is where you're gonna 151 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 1: need to scan tool or some way to measure tempt. 152 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: The tempt sensor has to be a hundred and ninety 153 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: four degrees and that's when it turns the fan on. 154 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: So at that point, if you have no tools, maybe 155 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: the cheapest guests is attempt switch. Best guests, make sure 156 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: you buy a good quality part. Make sure you get 157 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: it from a reliable source. You've got an O'Reilly oto 158 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: parts by you stick your head in the door and say, hey, 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: here's what I got, here's what I need. What do 160 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: you have that works? And you can probably find more 161 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: information out online at orillyoto dot com. Do it that 162 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: way and then at least we're going in a logical order. 163 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: But be careful how you think of this. Don't think well, 164 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: it's two hours in the cooling flows this way and 165 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: that way. No, no, no, no no, Let's get the 166 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: fan to work. The fans should be able to control 167 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: that temperature unless a the fans bed or be the 168 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: thermostats an issue. And this is on the assumption we 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: don't have other cooling system problems such as a head gasket. 170 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: But uh, I want to get through the fans cycling first, 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: one step at a time, before we have to get 172 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: into the hardcore stuff. Do that this week, call me 173 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: back next week and we can talk about it and 174 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: go from there. Eight five five zero nine zero zero. 175 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: The car doctor is coming right back. Don't go away. 176 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: I've got number, got good time right on the wall, 177 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: so you don't forget to call for car advice. Done right? 178 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero nine zero zero. Now back 179 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: to Ron. Let's go over to Steve Cook, my brother 180 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: from another mother out in Cincinnati. Steve, how are you today? 181 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: All right? How are you doing right? Alright? Sir? What's 182 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: going on? Oh? Not much? I guess can probably give 183 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: you a call. Um. You've probably noticed this, and I've 184 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: been noticing a whole lot of round here. You you're 185 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: driving down the road and you look over the person 186 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: next year, and what do you see in the passenger 187 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: department compartment there is in the in the passenger's side, 188 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: you see someone kick back with their feet up on 189 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: the dash or you see them hanging outside the window, 190 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: or you and the driver with your feet hanging outside 191 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: the window. You know, and uh, I guess want to 192 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: let people know that's a really really really bad idea. Well, 193 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: and it's it's been on a lot of fronts, right, Steve. 194 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: If if it's an air bad car, you're gonna blow 195 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: your You're gonna blow your ankles off if you get 196 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: into a collision, if if you're not wearing your knees 197 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: in your eye sockets, and if it's not any bad car, 198 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna be wearing your knees in your eye sockets anyway, 199 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: because you know, it's not how they intend you to 200 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: ride in a seat right right. What I was gonna 201 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: say is is, as you mentioned, you know, when the 202 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: engineered restraint systems on these vehicles there was they're designed 203 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: to work with you sitting in a certain position. If 204 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: you require that front seat and you got your feet 205 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: up on that dashboard and you're involved in an accident, 206 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: your body is gonna try it's gonna try to slide 207 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: underneath that seat thought number one. So if you've got 208 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: a shoulder strap on you, you're probably gonna start hanging 209 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: yourself and answers sliding underneath it said. That airbag goes off, 210 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna shove your legs right back into your face 211 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and it's gonna hurt you big time. Oh yeah, if 212 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't kill you. Yeah, we've we've seen a couple 213 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: of accidents around here like that and it is really 214 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: really not pretty. It's just it's just not a good 215 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: idea to do it. No, I agree. I agree. You know, 216 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: years ago, and I've told this story before on air, 217 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: so I'll tell it quickly. Is I intended a state 218 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: police traffic safety function and they had this this this 219 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: trailer like device that they towed around from event to event. 220 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: It was called the Believer. If I remember right, this 221 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: is a what is thirty years ago, years ago, and 222 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: you sat in this chair on a slight incline and 223 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 1: they strapped you in and a dupel catered the an 224 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: impact in a vehicle and I think seven or ten 225 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: miles an hour the amount of force that you display 226 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: onto those seatbelt straps at ten miles an hour is 227 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: I actually had a little black and blue marks that 228 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: that formed the next day. So they said, now, imagine 229 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: that at fifty and sixty miles an hour, and imagine 230 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: if you weren't strapped in where you would end up. 231 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: And that's what the seat belt is supposed to do. 232 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: So they designed cars. You're absolutely right. They designed the 233 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: safety element of cars to one specific direction. This is 234 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: how it's supposed to work. And when it doesn't, Um, 235 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a real big issue. So but yeah, absolutely, 236 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: Steve Um absolutely appreciate your input. So hey, let me 237 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: ask you real quick before I let you go, how 238 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: how are book sales going? You know, I should tell 239 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: everybody who this is. This is Steve Cook, author of 240 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: O B D two Diagnostics Made Easy. How how are 241 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: book sales doing? Stephen? Uh, they're doing okay, they could 242 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: probably be a little bit better. But it's how long 243 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: did it How long did it take it a write 244 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: that book? About two years? And how about two years? Well, 245 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was thinking it took you how 246 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: long you are as as a technician and now an instructor? Right, 247 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: how many years you you're in the field. Oh, that's 248 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: that's thirty years, right, so you know the book really 249 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: took thirty years to write, just to to put it 250 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: on paper. You gotta you gotta think of it like that. 251 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good information in that book, there 252 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: really is. Um you know, it's it's it's just amazing. 253 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: I think he did a great job and your doughter 254 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: did a wonderful job illustrating it. That's up online, right, Steve. Amazon. Yeah, 255 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: it's on Amazon. It's also you can get it on 256 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: eBay as well, you know, either place. So but you know, 257 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: I I appreciate you giving some thoset copies away to 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: your listeners and stuff. You know what. They gobbled it 259 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: up like a sponge and water and h you know, 260 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: it's clear because it's it's the it's the quality of 261 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: the information. Brother. We're always glad to help the cause. 262 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: So maybe can go ahead and get a few more 263 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: to you some time in the future. Yeah, you should. 264 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: We should actually do an interview, which is what we 265 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: really wanted to do. So you should really talk to Tom. 266 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: We could talk a little bit about the book, maybe 267 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: take some chapters and excerpts and cover it. But we're 268 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: always glad, you know, Steve. We're always glad to help 269 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: extend the education of the motoring public and the technicians 270 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: that are out there. Um, because we learned from them 271 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: and they learned from us. It's it's it's it's always 272 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: an equal exchange of information. So by all means, listen, 273 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: let me go on. Phones are backed up, but it's 274 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: always good to hear from your brother and whatever we 275 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: can do to help you, let us know. All right, 276 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: all right, sounds good. You take care now you too, 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: By bye. Let's go over to Wayne and Delaware. Wayne 278 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: running any in the car doctorate your service? Sir? How 279 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: can I help? Yes, sir, this is Wayne from Millsware, Delaware. 280 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I have a question. I have a two thousand five 281 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: cross Fire cross A cross Fire purchased a couple of 282 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: months ago. Took it in for front an element. Both 283 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: front coal springs the last four inches on both sides 284 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: of the spring were broken off. Was there a recall 285 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: on any of the coil springs on the cross Fires? Um, 286 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: there was on some of the Chryslers. I don't recall 287 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: the cross Fires off hand, but then they weren't such 288 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: a mass produced car that I don't know that it 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: would generate a recall on its own. What you could 290 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: do is you could take the VIN. You can take 291 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: the serial number, the seventeen digit serial number found on 292 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle registration and go out, go out to NITZE 293 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: and ht S A dot gov National High Traffic Safety 294 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: Authority dot govn and they have a section there where 295 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: you can plug in your seventeen digit VIN and it 296 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: will tell you any open recalls on the vehicle, any 297 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: ending investigations, and so on. The government has actually stepped 298 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: up its game in the last two years and made 299 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: it very consumer oriented in the sense that they're trying 300 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: to get the word out before it becomes a bigger issue. Uh. 301 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, after the Toyota acceleration to Bacle, after some 302 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: of the other recalls, the air bag that the Kada 303 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: air bag re call that's gone on in recent years. 304 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: That's why if you go back and I forget the numbers, 305 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: but I think it was and I'm gonna guess here, 306 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly three thousand dollars a vehicle for 307 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: a recall fine to the car companies. It's now thirty thousand. 308 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: It's some they they they you know, exceeded the find 309 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: or raised the fine level by ten times whatever the 310 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: number was. So now it's very, very very costly for 311 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: car companies to get recalls or to get fined for 312 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: a recall that should have happened. And they've really set 313 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: up their game. Um, but Nitza they because they tell 314 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: me that there was no recalls on the two thousand 315 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: five and but it's just it's amazing. Get both am 316 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: broke the same increments on each side and it was unbelievable. Well, 317 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: and keep in mind part of the reason why that 318 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, you know, across fires a low volume car, right, 319 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: they didn't didn't sell that many of them, and and 320 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: the issue there becomes that depending upon how many sold. 321 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a numbers game. Um, you know, 322 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: it's a numbers game. How many do they sell? How 323 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: many will they sell? And you know it's listen, the 324 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: other thing you have to think about what that car is. 325 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Be glad you can still get parts for it. It's 326 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: now fifteen years old, and you know that becomes an issue. 327 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: So you know, but um, that's part of the problem too. 328 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: On buying a low production car like that. Keep an 329 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: eye on Nitza Wayne. You never know when that might 330 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: appear and if everyone else out there, if you're like 331 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: Wayne from Delaware, keep in mind you've got an older car, 332 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: you're looking for parts, You've got a newer car. 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Wrong? 349 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I had my mechanic at work brought in its two 350 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: thousand seven two point four, and while he had an 351 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: idoling he knew the time and change because it through 352 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: the code for the camp sensor and it it quit 353 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: while I was idle. So he went ahead. He's really good. 354 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 1: McCay went ahead and put the time and chain on 355 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: and found out that idling in the bay it bent 356 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: the valves. So now I have bought the car from 357 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: the employee of ours, and I'm wondering if I can 358 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: take the head off without taking the time and cover off, 359 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, take the gears off the cams. I know 360 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: I gotta slide him ahead and take the cams out. 361 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: There's one bolt that goes to the UH chain guide 362 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: dine get at. I'm just wondering if I can get that. 363 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: What you want to do is you want to pull 364 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: the head the way we used to old school, pull 365 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: some of the old for duel overhead cam motors and 366 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: where we where we wired the changed the Cobalt the Chevy, 367 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: take the head off that four cylinder without because I 368 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: know he did the the guys, really he did the 369 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: time and change correct. Everything's right, just it was just 370 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: a coincidence that it bent them down. Valves sitting there idling, Yeah, 371 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I bought all the new vowels, got everything 372 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: I need to do the deal, and I'm just wondering 373 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: because he goes, I don't know, I just flew that on. 374 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: You might have the all of the time getting that 375 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: time cover off. You're gonna try it. How are you 376 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: gonna how are you gonna lock the tension or in place? Douglas. 377 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: There's a access hole in the front cover where I 378 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: can pull it back and put a pin in there. 379 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I could take the take the take the 380 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: two cams off and pull him out of the DearS 381 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: because I know the variable timing cam sticks out quite 382 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: a way. So I get the cams out, and then 383 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: the only thing is to get that seal off that 384 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: goes to the variable and right. And here's what you 385 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: have to think of. You have to think of it 386 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: like this. The car has already broken. You can't break 387 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: it any more than it is, brother, So just just 388 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: common sense, just you know, tie the sprockets to the chains, 389 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: lock the tension, or get everything up out of the way. 390 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: You know, once you open up that cover, if you 391 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: can somehow stuff a rag or a clean shop towel 392 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: underneath this sprockets, so nothing falls down into the motor right, 393 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: just from the sounds of it, you've been doing this, 394 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm talking about. But for everyone 395 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: else's benefit that yeah, why not. I I can't say 396 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: I've ever seen it done that way, but I get 397 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: why you would want to, and it makes sense to me. 398 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: You know, as long as you know that he's a 399 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: trusted source, and I mean listen, you can also just 400 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: for giggles before you go through all this, just you know, 401 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: line up the cam marks, make sure everything is on correctly, um, 402 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: not doubting your mechanic, not doubting. You know, he could 403 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: be in the he could be party Jones. But you 404 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: know everybody makes it's a it's a new system. So 405 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: it has them colored gears. I can put on the marks, 406 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: put it on the marks and see if everything linds up. 407 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: If it does, color done, the chain have had it. 408 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: You know, I've I've listened to you for quite a 409 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 1: while and I'm trying to get him to listen to you. 410 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm six years old and he might 411 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: want to work on a car, bretor they come to me, whatever. 412 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: But this guy is a college educated uh, check dude. 413 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: And he's been with us for probably six or seven years, 414 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: and I'm really impressed with him, and I want him 415 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: to start listening to you because he doesn't just put 416 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: on with the engine code tells you to put on. 417 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: He makes sure that it is what it is. And 418 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: I'm proud of the guy. But my life has been 419 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: alignments on semis and cars and trucks. And it's like 420 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: today out evolve over the feathered one drive act on 421 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: one way, feathered the other drive actually the other way, 422 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: feathered the steer tires in inside and out. It took 423 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: me two hours, but I had to crack the rear. 424 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: It was like a foot and a half off on 425 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: the rear ends. And you know, you get something like that, 426 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: you get in it to drive it into your bay 427 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: and it runs a run into the curb within five 428 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: ft and you get that thing done and drive straight 429 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: as an narrow I mean, there's no nothing more pleasurable 430 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: than that. Yeah. Oh well, listen, that's listen man, that's 431 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's the career of working on cars, right. 432 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: I was talking to Dominic yesterday. Dominic's a regular customer 433 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: at the shop and he owns an OH seven Subaru 434 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: and he purchased this car used Unfortunately, he's had a 435 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: bad run of luck. He had Subaru that was going 436 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: through a court of oil every five or six hundred miles. 437 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: He got rid of that. He purchased this OH seven 438 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Subaru that now goes through a quart of oil every 439 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: four miles. Where he goes through three courts and three 440 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Whichever way it comes out the big depends 441 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: on the day of the week, he said. And in 442 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: the conversation with Dominic, we were talking about working on 443 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: cars and I'm not sure what exactly. He doesn't think 444 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: he's a medical technician or a medical technician repair person, 445 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: something along those lines. And if you're listening, dom high um. 446 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: But he brought up a point. He says, it must 447 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: be so exciting to work with your hands every day. 448 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: And I said, you know, absolutely so. I said, there's 449 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: something really rewarding, even after forty something years, that you 450 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: get to work with your hands and fix something that 451 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: nobody else can fix, or nobody else wants to fix, 452 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: or just you get the opportunity to do it. Dominic 453 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: Suber Group had a hundred and forty thousand miles on 454 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: and it needed for an NT work. They sold it 455 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: to him as a used car and needed for an ntwork. 456 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: But to get everything apart, I had to carefully heat 457 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: everything so as not to ruin the cast and then 458 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: re threat and tap and you know, quite a little 459 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: bit of tedious work. And um, you know what, at 460 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's nothing like fixing a 461 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: car to make yourself feel good. And I would much 462 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: rather take that. And I just had this conversation with 463 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: my wife that I'd still I still like fixing cars 464 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: and I couldn't take sitting at a desk. Man. Um, 465 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I'd just go out of my mind. I appreciate the 466 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: called Douglas and by all means, give it a shot. 467 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: Try it that way, and uh, let us know how 468 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: you work out. And um, you know, we'll we'll. We're 469 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: glad to talk to you. And if there anything else 470 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: we can do for you in the future, you let 471 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: us know. Hey. This segment of The Car Doctor was 472 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: brought to you by the Professional Service Network by the 473 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: folks over for the Ford. 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Let's go over and 493 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: talk to Holly in Michigan. Holly, Welcome to the Car Doctor. Hi, 494 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: my name is Holly. I'm from shot, Michigan. I have 495 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: a two thousand eight Honda Accord. It's only got six 496 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. Um, it has an issue where 497 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: the oil smells like gas, and I have two questions, 498 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: One is there a fix for this? And then too, 499 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: could this ever cause an oil drain plug to fall out? 500 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: I can't cause an oil drain plug to fall out. 501 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: The only way an oil drain plug is going to 502 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: fall out as if it's not tightened properly. So has 503 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: the old drain plug fallen out? Is my question? Yes, 504 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: I was driving and I had gotten this car. I 505 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: never gotten an oil change done on it, so it 506 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: must have been done before I got it. I went 507 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: four thousand miles for the dream plug fell out? Okay, 508 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: So well I would have to look back at the 509 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: person that did the last oil change. That that's uh, 510 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, for it to just loosen up like that. Um, 511 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: when did you what did you buy the car with 512 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: like what two thousand miles on it? Holly? Yeah all right, 513 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: and buy it from a dealership. Yeah, it was like 514 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: one of the lower cars. So I've got to think 515 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: I've got to go back to the guy that did 516 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: the oil change. I mean, if it's if it's torque 517 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: to spec, drain plugs just don't fall out liquid? Is 518 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, think of think of it like this liquid 519 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: is liquid. Not that I would recommend anybody do this, 520 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: but if you fill the crank case with water, you know, 521 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: just because there's a different liquid in there, it's not 522 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: going to make the drain plug fall out. It's gonna 523 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: obviously cause engine damage, but it's not going to make 524 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: the drain plug fall out. So when the drain plug 525 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: fell out where they able to thread a new one in, 526 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: you know, as far as you know, the threads in 527 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: the oil pan weren't destroyed or hurt. It was just 528 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: something just unthreaded. Yeah, they were able to put it 529 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: back in and it was fine. So and obviously a 530 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: new drain plug because the old one got lost on 531 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: the highway somewhere. Yeah, that had to be quite a mess, 532 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure, just out of curiosity. How did you know 533 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: the drain plug fell out when the red light came 534 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: on for the engine or did you notice notice the 535 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: road to stay on the road you were leaving behind. 536 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: I got an emergency warning that the oil pressure was low, 537 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: and so I just stopped the engine and then I 538 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: checked the oil. There was like no oil ouch. Okay, 539 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: well good, I'm glad you listened to the to the dashboard. 540 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: So back to the first question, gas in the oil. 541 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: What makes you think there's gas in the oil? Well, 542 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: when I put the dipstick in there and I take 543 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: it out, you know, it smells like gas. And even 544 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: just not even doing that, but just opening it up 545 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: the cap, it smells like gas. Doesn't smell just like oil. 546 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: How can I explain it? Um on a feedback engine? 547 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: All engines anything with an oxygen sensor. So engines over 548 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: the last thirty years they have the ability to control 549 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, computers have the ability to control the air 550 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: fuel mixture, right, so they they use something called an 551 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: oxygen sensor, and in simpler terms, there's other terms for it, 552 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: but an oxygen sensor. It sniffs the content, the amount 553 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: of oxygen content and the exhaust and they had just 554 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: fuel trim accordingly. They just had to change the mixture accordingly. 555 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Fuel in the crank case would skew that. Oh, two 556 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: censor reading it would change it, and it would change 557 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: it to the point that the computer could no longer 558 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: accurately and correctly control fuel trim. So if there truly 559 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: was excess fuel or fuel in the crank case period, 560 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: in theory on paper, you would get a check engine light. 561 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: You would see, you would see fault codes and you 562 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: would see so guards is of what it smells like. 563 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: You know, if you really believe there's fuel in the 564 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: crank case, and I'm not saying it's impossible, the only 565 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: way it could happen is poor combustion. I'm sorry. The 566 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: piston rings aren't ceiling properly in the engine and they're 567 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: allowing fuel charge to blow down and contaminate the oil. 568 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: But you know, does the new oil still smell like 569 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: fuel or was that the old oil? Or you don't 570 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: smell anymore? You still do? I still do you smell 571 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: the gas? Okay? Cars under warranty is all right? Here's 572 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: what here's here's what I want you to tell the 573 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: service right on Monday, all right, I want you to 574 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: take it in. And you know is this this is 575 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: a Honda dealer you bought the car from, right, Okay, 576 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: So you know you're gonna take it in and you're 577 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: gonna tell him listen, remember me, I'm the oil drain 578 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: plug lady. The drain plug fell out. And he'll go, yep, 579 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: I remember in You'll have a good laugh about it 580 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: and say, listen, I'm being a little sensitive to this, 581 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: and I just need you to look at this. You know, 582 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: I check the oil and the oil smells like gas, 583 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: and I'd like somebody to check it all right now, 584 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: whether they send a mechanic out. And you kind of 585 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: wanted in writing all right, you don't want this to 586 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: be done off the cuff, all right, you you you 587 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: want to ask them to, you know, do a work 588 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: order so that they physically check it. Um what you 589 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: want to tell HIMSI your fuel your fuel mileages down, 590 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: all right, and you're smelling fuel in the oil when 591 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: you check the oil level, all right, that's your generator 592 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,959 Speaker 1: repair order. Let them do a repair order. Let them 593 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: check it. They're probably gonna come back and say there's 594 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the car. That's fine. But you know 595 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: what we just did. We documented it, and now it's 596 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: on file because if for some reason, this is in 597 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: the early stages of fuel contaminating the oil and five 598 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: thousand miles from now the engine fails, it's still under warranty. 599 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: But if if anything else happens on down the road, 600 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: you've you've notified Honda. Honda has been you know, here's 601 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: what it is. You've got it. In writing don't lose 602 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: that piece of paper, all right, But because there's not 603 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: a lot of ways for that to get fuel foul 604 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: or oil contaminated, you know, gasoline contaminated oil. There's not 605 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: a lot of ways for that to happen, um short 606 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: of cataclysmic or pending cataclysmic engine damage. All right, do that, 607 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: and I think that I'll get you what you need, 608 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: all right, kiddoh, okay, thank you so much. You're very welcome, 609 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: holly good to have you today. I'm any in the 610 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: car doctor. We're back right after this ronan car doctor, 611 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: back at your service, real quick story before we go 612 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: this hour, you know, the the insanity of utter repair, right, 613 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: I just I just question what it's about sometimes. How 614 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: a Toyota Prius come into the shop this week. Check 615 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: engine light was on, check engine lights but on for 616 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: a while. And I always find it interesting when a Prius, 617 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: right the planet saving car, the you know, it doesn't 618 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: run as much on gasoline as it could are, has 619 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: a check engine light on that's been on for a while, 620 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: because you know, let's face it, it's it's a typical 621 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: Prius owner is somebody that's into saving the environment. And 622 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: I get that, and I respect that. And listen, I'm 623 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: into the environment too. I'm not saying i'm not, but 624 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: to me, you know, driving a Prius kind of puts 625 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: the bull's eye on your back. You're saying, hey, um 626 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: into saving the planet, um into saving gas and my 627 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: carbon footprint and so on. And they've got bumper stickers 628 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: on the back of the car. You know, um uh, 629 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: you know the environment matters. Women's rights matter, you know, 630 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: black lives matter, blue lives matter, everybody's lives matter. And 631 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: I agree with all that. You know, a real spiritual, 632 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: good karma kind of bumper sticker, okay. And you look 633 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: at a car like that and you say, wow, here's 634 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: somebody that you know they do recycling and it's clean 635 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: air and windmills and all the other possible choices. Check 636 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: engine lights on. And I get in the car, check 637 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: engine lights on, and there's a piece of black electrical 638 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: tape over the light next to it, which is for 639 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: the tire pressure system. I'm scratching my head and well, 640 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: we don't want to fix that. That's too expensive, okay. 641 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: And the right we retired, by the way, because they 642 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: think the t PMS system is broken, by the way, 643 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: the right retire has sixteen pounds of air in it. 644 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: So they've been driving around for for he said, three 645 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: four months with losing air slowly, they just got tired. 646 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: They put a piece of tape over So I diagnosed 647 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: the check engine light. God's honest truth. I come back 648 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: to me. I say, look, it needs X, Y and Z. 649 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: It's twelve to fift. What do you want to do? Oh, 650 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to spend that kind of money on 651 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: the car. He says, you can just put another piece 652 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: of tape over a light. And you know, I don't 653 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: get it. Are we what's the point in trying to 654 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: save the planet if we're not doing it on seven basis? 655 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: And and that's the point of this, all right, Listen, 656 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: it's a mindset. Check engine lights on. I don't care 657 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: what you're driving, Get it fixed, don't put tape over it. 658 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: It's not legal, it's not right, it's not moral, and 659 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't do the planet a whole lot of good. 660 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm not on any in the car. Doctor. Mechanics aren't expensive. 661 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: Their priceless. Everyone she goes to