1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: And this show that. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: We are going to do tonight is one that I 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: hope you will really pay attention to and help us 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: explain to the rest of the world what is about 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: to happen. And it deals with nine to eleven in 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: a shock that came out and it was just a 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Pentagon email or a letter that went to the families 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: from nine to eleven who lost loved ones during that attack, 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: and the suspected mastermind of nine to eleven attacks, as 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: well as four other defendants. Apparently they could all escape 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: the death penalty under a quote new plea deal where 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: they would plead guilty and then it would save their 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: lives literally. Now there are a lot of people that 16 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: have direct connection nine to eleven that are beyond furious 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 2: over this. Khalid Sheik Mohammad is the mastermind behind nine 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: to eleven. He was the CEO of this nine to 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: eleven at attack. He was the one that came up 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: with it with Osama bin Laden. He had in his 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: writings before we caught him and had said publicly that 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: his goal was to kill as many Americans as possible. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: And he wanted to have mass casualties not just on 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, but after nine to eleven. He also 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: was planning other attacks as well. That suspected mastermind now 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: would be in essence given a deal. 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Now Centater. 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: The I think the pullback that the curtain here you 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: and I talked about this is the fact that this 30 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: seems to be the Department of the Pentagon and the 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: Biden administration saying no one wants these people. They're two dangerous. 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: He's five men, including the mastermind of nine to eleven. 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: So we want to close down GITMO. And the way 34 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: we could close it down is giving these five defendants 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: a plea deal so we can wrap up Guantanamobay and say, look, 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: we close this thing down, aren't we great people? That 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: is the most I think disgusting part of this deal 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: is it's yes for a political purpose for them. 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: This story is absolutely outrageous, and I think everyone hearing 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: it should be shocked and should be furious. On September eleventh, 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: deranged radical Islamic terrorists carried out the worst terrorist attack 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: in the history of the United States of America. They 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: murdered two thousand, nine hundred and seventy seven innocent people. 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: It was horrific. It was an act of war. It 45 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: was an active war that was planned and executed to 46 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: attempt to cripple the United States. Every one of us 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: who was alive and an adult at the time remembers 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: where they were on September eleventh, remembers where they were 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: when they saw the image of the first plane hit 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: the first tower in New York City, and then the 51 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 3: second planes hitting the second tower in New York City. 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: You remember where you were when the plane flew into 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: the Pentagon, and you remember where they were when the 54 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: brave heroes took the plane down over that hallowed field 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: in Pennsylvania. Yesterday, the Biden administration sent letters to the 56 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: families of the victims of the nearly three thousand people 57 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: murdered that day, saying, by the way, the guy who 58 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: planned it, the guy who was the mastermind behind it, 59 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: the guy who plotted it, Khalid Shaik Muhammad, and four 60 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: others who were active participants in the worst act of 61 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: terrorism in US history, We may not seek the death 62 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: penalty for them. If you don't seek the death penalty 63 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: for murdering nearly three thousand people in an act of war, 64 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: then what the hell do you seek the death penalty for. 65 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: It is outrageous and it's infuriating. 66 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: You look at these charges and I go to just 67 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: to remind people of Kleete Sheik Muhammad. This is an 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: individual that worked Tannahan with asamban Lad in al Qaeda. 69 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: He was the leader of al Qaida's propaganda operations, and 70 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: that was really recruitment. 71 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: He needed to recruit soldiers for jihad. 72 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: He was in charge and was incredibly successful at the 73 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: propaganda that brought people in especially in the Middle East, 74 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: from different countries into al Qaeda. He did that so 75 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: well from nineteen nine nine to two thousand and one 76 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: that some described him as the number one recruiter of 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: terrorists in the world. When we captured him. Just so 78 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: people remember in two thousand and three, there were several 79 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: countries that wanted him because they wanted to kill him. 80 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: And what we did is we wanted intel of him 81 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: because he knew about the entire operations and he could 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: lead us to Osama bin Laden. When we interrogated him 83 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: in March two thousand and seven, he finally confessed to 84 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: say to what we already knew. He was the mastermind 85 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: of the nine to eleven attacks, that Richard Reid shoe bombing, 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: attempt to blow up an airliner. He was also the 87 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: mastermind of that, the Bali nightclub bombing in Indonesia. He 88 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: was involved in that, the nineteen ninety three World Trade 89 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: Center bombings, the murder of Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street 90 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: Journal reporter, and various other foiled attacks, as well as 91 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: numerous other crimes he was involved with. It wasn't just 92 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, and that's why clearly he deserves a 93 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: death penalty. What he was charged was with first degree 94 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: murder two nine hundred and seventy seven counts for everyone 95 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: that died on nine to eleven attacking civilians. He was 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: charged without attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing suin serious bodily injury, 97 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: murder in the violation of law of war, destruction of 98 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: property and violation of law war, hijacking or hazarding a 99 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: vessel or aircraft. Then he was charged with multiple counts 100 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: of terrorism, and then all of the other things I 101 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: just listed. Why would anyone at the Pentagon unless it's 102 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: political pressure from this White House, Because the White House, 103 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: to be clear, center could stop this right they could 104 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: step in here and say no, you're not going to 105 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: do this right, You're not going to let this guy 106 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: live and let him plead guilty. 107 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: So I think it's two things. One. 108 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: I think when it comes to criminal law, this administration 109 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: is populated by left wing ideologues. And in the entire 110 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: time Joe Biden has been president, the Department of Justice 111 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: has not authorized a single new death penalty prosecution. Under 112 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland, they've halted death penalty prosecutions. And in fact, 113 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: Joe Biden campaigned on ending the federal death penalty. His 114 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: criminal justice platform included a pledge laid out on his 115 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: campaign website that said, quote to work to pass legislation 116 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: to eliminate the death penalty at the federal level and 117 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: incentivized states to follow the federal government's example. And he 118 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: said those convicted of the most egregious federal crimes quote 119 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: should serve should instead serve life sentences without probation or. 120 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: Parole. 121 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: And since Merrick Garland took office, he has not sought 122 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: the death penalty. And by the way, that includes the 123 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 3: deranged murderer in al Paso that went into the walmart 124 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: seeking to murder Hispanics on a blatant racist hate crime, 125 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: and the Biden Department of Justice did not seek the 126 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: death penalty there. Instead, he was sentenced to ninety life sentences. 127 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: He might be executed by the State of Texas, and 128 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: in fact, I have every confidence that the State of 129 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: Texas is going to prosecute that monster and carry out 130 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: capital punishment autumn. But the Feds, the Feds, you commit 131 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 3: a horrible racist hate crime and mass murder, the Biden 132 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: DOJ they won't consider the death penalty. And when you're 133 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: talking about terrorism, it is this is the worst act 134 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: of terrorism in US history, and yet these left wing 135 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: ideologues they don't want to hold the mastermind of murdering 136 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: nearly three thousand Americans accountable. It is so profoundly disrespectful, 137 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: not just to the families of the victims, not just 138 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: to the Americans who were murdered that day, but to 139 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 3: everyone in this country. This was an act of war 140 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: against America, and these bastards don't give a damn. 141 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: The other part that I think is so shocking about this, Senators, 142 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: the fact that you have a man like Khalie Chik Mohammad. 143 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: We know for a fact he traveled the Philippines back 144 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four. We were trying to, by the way, 145 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 2: get him. After this, the United States government was he 146 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: worked with his nephew, another terrorist that you'll know his name, 147 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Romsey Yusuf, on a massive plot to destroy twelve commercial 148 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: airliners flying routes between the United States of America, East Asia, 149 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: and Southeast Asia. The nine to eleven Commissary report says 150 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: this marked the first time that KSM that's what he's 151 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: known as Cleeechek Mohammad took part in the actual planning 152 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: of a terrorist operation. 153 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: This was back in nineteen ninety four. 154 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: The United States nine to eleven Commission also said, by 155 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: his own accounts, Khalid Sheik Muhammad his animus towards the 156 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: United States stemmed not from his experiences because he was smart, 157 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: he came to the US as a student, but rather, 158 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: they said his violent disagreement with US foreign policy favoring Israel. 159 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: So this this is a man that wanted Israel to burn. 160 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: This is a man that started being a terrorist in 161 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, And this is a man who America 162 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: had been trying to track down in at least by 163 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 2: ninety five and ninety six. In fact, Muhammed returned to 164 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: Afghanistan to avoid captured by US authorities in his fight 165 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: for his flight from Katar because he was told or 166 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: tipped off that America was coming to get him. 167 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: That was in the nineteen nineties. 168 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: So he wanted Israel to burn. He succeeded in causing 169 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: America to burn in New York City and Washington, d c. 170 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: And Pennsylvania, murdering nearly three thousand Americans. And I mentioned 171 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: it was a couple of things. One, it is the 172 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: radical ideologues in the Biden administration who won't seek the 173 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: death penalty for anybody. But two, this Biden White House 174 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: and this president consistently systematically puts partisan political objectives above 175 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: justice and above protecting US national security. It is ironic 176 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: that we find this news out within a week of 177 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: the two year anniversary of Joe Biden surrendering the Taliban, 178 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: abandoning Afghanistan, abandoning Kabble, leaving Americans behind to die, abandoning 179 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: thirteen servicemen and women who were murdered in Kabble, And 180 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: we discussed on this podcast. We played the testimony of 181 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,479 Speaker 3: a heroic marine who explained that they had the intelligence 182 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: about the bomber, and the higher ups would not allow 183 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: them to take him out before he murdered thirteen servicemen 184 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: and women. Why because this White House values politics above 185 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: national security? Now, why did they have such a disastrous 186 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: withdrawal from Afghanistan? Because the President wanted to have an 187 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: announcement on nine to eleven, on the anniversary of nine 188 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: to eleven, we are out of Afghanistan. 189 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: That was a political objective. 190 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: And the fact that it would cause people to die, 191 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: The fact that it would abandon people who had risk 192 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: their lives to save us, the fact that it would 193 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: empower terrorists to want to murder us, none of that matter. 194 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: The fact that it would result in chaos and catastrophe. 195 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: And remember those images of the people grasping the wheels 196 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: of planes as they were taking off as Biden cut 197 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: and run for them. Politics was more important. You alluded 198 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: when you open this podcast to a major reason why 199 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: they're doing this, which is Joe Biden wants to announce 200 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: we have closed Guantanamo. Why because that's a partisan political 201 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: objective they want that. They want to dance around and 202 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 3: trumpet that fact with a left wing activist who never 203 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: liked that GITMO was there in the first place. They 204 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: never liked that we were fighting against the terrorists, and 205 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: they want to say we closed GETMO. Now the problem 206 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: is you have terrorists there and colleide Shake Muhammad. There 207 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: are four others in this group, but but but ksm 208 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: Is is by far the worst of them. He's the 209 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: principal person other than Osama bin Laden, who was behind 210 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: the September eleventh attack. They can't close Guantanamo because they 211 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 3: can't move them to the United States and put them 212 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 3: in a US present prison unless they reach some outcome. 213 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: That's why they want a plea deal so they could 214 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: get their political victory of closing GITBO and and do 215 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 3: so at the expense of US national security. And let's 216 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: be clear, if they cut a plea deal with this terrorist, 217 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: that will only encourage subsequent terrorists. Mind you, this is 218 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: right on the wake of Joe Biden sending six billion 219 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 3: dollars to Iran. The Ayahtola in Iran is the leading 220 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: state sponsor of terrorism on Earth, paying enormous sums of 221 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 3: money to murder Israelis and to murder Americans. 222 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: Iran, to remind people, ran killed more American soldiers dismembered 223 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: more American soldiers without firing a shot, because they were 224 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: the ones supplying the roadside bombs and the advanced bombs 225 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: to the terrorists, whether they were the insurgents or ISIS, 226 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: al Qaeda, etc. And they were funneling them and giving 227 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: them safe haven, and we just sent them billions of 228 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: dollars to then fund more terrorism. 229 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: Six billion dollars for five hostages, American hostages released, So 230 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: now they've set the price of an American hostage at 231 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: over a billion dollars apiece. 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After nine to eleven, 277 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: I was in DC working in the Bush administration, and 278 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: I learned a ton of information about these people that 279 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: planned nine to eleven. I remember watching it. I was 280 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: in college at the time. And I also have become 281 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: friends with one of the guys that actually pulled Kalique 282 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: shake Mohammad in the capture and having those two perspectives, 283 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: the amount of reading I put into him but is 284 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: probably more than the other subject in the world and 285 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: how they planned nine to eleven because I wanted to 286 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: understand our enemy and why they hated us so much. 287 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: And Khaleage shake Mohammad not only did he help plan 288 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: other airliner attacks, but he actually worked to divide the 289 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: scheme where five men in a single day, and this 290 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: was back in the nineties, would board twelve flights, two 291 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: each to three of the men on each plane. They 292 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: would then put bombs on those planes and their plan 293 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: was to exit the planes, leaving timers to ignite those bombs. 294 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: They did a dry I run on this on Philippine 295 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Airlines four point thirty four and they use an explosive 296 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: and it went off. Then they were planning on doing this, 297 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: but then they realized something with Asama bin Laden, this 298 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: statistic individual said no, no, that's not enough. We need 299 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: to hijack the planes with Jihadis who are willing to 300 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: blow themselves up right in the explosion, and not just 301 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: kill everybody in the plane, but hit targets to make 302 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: America be fearful of us and change the course of 303 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: the world. That's why they picked the Twin Towers, That's 304 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: why they picked the Pentagon, That's why that other plane 305 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: that crashed in that field apparently was headed towards the 306 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: White House, that was its intended target. From what we understand, 307 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: they understood that these planes with the right men, and 308 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: they found those men, and they trained those men, and 309 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: they took care of their families afterwards. All of this 310 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: was from Muhammed said no, no, it's not enough just 311 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: to blow a plane up. We have to hit American 312 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: targets that the American people will be come to their 313 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: knees when it happens, and we can change the course 314 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 2: of the future of the world. 315 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: That is the guy that now. 316 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: And imagine if you had a family member on any 317 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: one of these planes or that was killed in the 318 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: Twin Towers or at the Pentagon, et cetera, and all 319 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: these other tearis texts I mentioned earlier that he was 320 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: involved in. You get a letter in the mail that says, 321 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: we just want to wrap this up. How does anybody 322 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: have faith in America's government if we do this? 323 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 3: Look, Bennett, it is shocking. Now I want to do something. 324 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: A lot of the folks that listen to Verdict are young. 325 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 3: We have a lot of college kids who listen. We 326 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: have a lot of high school kids who listen. We 327 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: have a lot of young professionals who listen. We have 328 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 3: a lot of people who are regular listeners to Verdict 329 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: who were not alive on September eleventh, and so for them, 330 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 3: September eleventh is sort of like what Pearl Harbor is 331 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: to you and me. It is a a thing about 332 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: we know about in history. We know that it was 333 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: a horrific attack on America, but it's not something for 334 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: many of our listeners that is part of their lived experience. 335 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: And for both you and I, September eleventh is indelibly 336 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: marked in our minds. I was in Washington, d C. 337 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: On September eleventh. I remember it acutely. Where were you 338 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: to tell me where you were and how you experienced 339 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 3: September eleventh. 340 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: I was in my dorm room in Ole, miss and 341 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: I was sitting there studying for a big test, and 342 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: I was about to leave in my phone ring This 343 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 2: was almost like cell phones weren't really big yet. It 344 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: was I remember my dorm room phone ringing, and it 345 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: was a producer that I had worked with at Fox News. 346 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 2: Because I was commentating at the time. He said, turn 347 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 2: your TV right now and hung up on me, and 348 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: I remember turning the TV on Fox. It wasn't even 349 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 2: on yet, and then I went to NBC and I 350 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: remember watching as they thought that it was a small 351 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: plane that have hit the building. 352 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: And then I watched in real time live. 353 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: That second plane hit the second tower, and I remember 354 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: that whole day, the entire campus, it was like the 355 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: zombie apocalypse. No one knew what to do, no one 356 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: everybody was calling their mom and dad. 357 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: Everybody was parents. 358 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: I remember showing up an hour later taking kids away 359 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: from the campus because they were so afraid that this 360 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: could happen on college campuses. There were rumors going around 361 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: and I called my dad, who was in law enforcement. 362 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: I was like, what do I do? And he was like, hey, 363 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: I want you to get out of your dorm. I 364 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: remember him telling me that I want you to get 365 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: out of your dorm room. Go get in your car, 366 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: get out of the dorm room. And then we decided 367 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: that I was going to come to Memphis, and everyone 368 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: laughed because no one knew what was going to happen next. 369 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 2: And then I remember, you know, you hear that a 370 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: bomb had gone off. There was a reporter bomb went 371 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: off by the White House. And then I remember watching 372 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: those journalists live feeds where they're running down the street 373 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: and that they called it the trail of the heels 374 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: because everybody was kicking their shoes off, running for their lives. 375 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: And then the Pentagon got hit and then we heard 376 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 2: there was multiple other planes. It was the scariest day 377 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: of my life from a you felt like nowhere was 378 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: safe in that moment. And that's exactly what these hijackers 379 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: had planned. It was their entire the decision making in 380 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: Khalid shake Mohammad, who could get a deal. He's the 381 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: guy that picked the target. A lot of people thought 382 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: it was Asam bin Laden. 383 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: It was not. 384 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 2: Bin Lada had rejected some targets that were suggested by Mohammed, 385 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: for example, the US Bank Tower in Los Angeles. They 386 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: it was one of the targets. He said, no, no, 387 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: I want to simplify. That's too hard to fly there 388 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: quickly and you can't get there from takeoff, so he 389 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: said no to that one. But it was Khalid shak 390 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: Muhammad that came up with that list, and it was 391 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: Khalid shak muhammad Is that went out there and picked 392 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: every single nine to eleven hijacker. Osama bin Laden didn't 393 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: do any of that work. That was Muhammad who went 394 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: out there and proceeded to organize the plot, met with 395 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: the people, got them the training, taught them how to 396 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: fly the planes, got them the flight training in America. 397 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: And bin Laden, yes, he provided the financial support. But 398 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: this is the guy who's still alive and the people 399 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: that risked their lives again, and there were several times 400 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: that Americans died by the way on bad intel trying 401 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 2: to get Khali Chik Muhammad, and there are people that 402 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: gave the ultimate sacrifice just trying to capture him alive 403 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: because we didn't want to blow him up. We had chances, 404 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 2: from what I understand, to blow him up, and we 405 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: weren't able to do that. 406 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: We didn't want to do it. 407 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: We were told no, no, we want to capture him 408 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: because we thought he had more intel or as much 409 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: intail as Osama bin Laden, And that's why we took 410 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: him alive instead of trying to kill him. 411 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: So I remember that morning. 412 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 3: It was obviously September eleventh of two thousand and one, 413 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: and it was the beginning of the Bush administration, and 414 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: Heidi and I were newlyweds. We had gotten married in 415 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: May of two thousand and one. We were both working 416 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 3: in the Bush administration. The two of us had met 417 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: on the George W. Bush presidential campaign the year before. 418 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: Heidi was working in the White House. She was in 419 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: the US Trade Representative's Office, which is a part of 420 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: the White House complex. I was working at the Federal 421 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: Trade Commission. The first plane hit the First World Trade 422 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: Center tower at eight forty six am, and within a 423 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: minute or two Heidi was already at the office. She 424 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: called me at home and I was walking out the 425 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: front door. Our apartment was in northern Virginia. It was 426 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 3: less than a mile from the Pentagon. It was just 427 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 3: south of the Pentagon. And Heidi called me as I 428 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: was walking out the front door, and she said, stop 429 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: where you are, turn on the TV and watch what happened. 430 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: So I stopped. 431 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: I didn't leave the apartment, and I turned on the 432 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: TV and I saw a plane had hit one of. 433 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: The twin towers. 434 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: Now, when the first plane hit, nobody knew what it was, 435 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: and initially you couldn't tell that it was an airliner. 436 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: There was a lot of speculation that maybe it was 437 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: a cesta, it was a smaller plane, maybe some pilot 438 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 3: had gotten horrifically confused, maybe a pilot had had a 439 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: heart attack, that it could have been an accident. As 440 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 3: you were first watching it, people weren't sure what happened. 441 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: And then at nine oh three am, the second plane 442 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: flew into the second tower, and at that instant, everyone 443 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: watching it knew what it was. We knew that it 444 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: was terrorism. And the second plane they had on video 445 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 3: you could see that it was a full airliner that 446 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 3: crashed in. It was United Airlines Flight one seventy five 447 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: that crashed into the World Trade Center South Tower. The 448 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: North Tower had been hit by American Airlines Flight eleven, 449 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: and when it crashed, you knew you were watching hundreds 450 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 3: of people die. In an instant, everyone on that plane 451 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: was incinerated. Everyone in the towers where the airliner crashed 452 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: into was incinerated. Heidi was, as I said, at the 453 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 3: White House at the time. And when the first plane hit, 454 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: the Secret Service came through the halls of the White 455 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: House and they told everyone, stay where you are. We 456 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: don't know what's happened, but just stay where you are. 457 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: When the second plane hit, they realized, like everyone did, 458 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: that America was under attack, and the Secret Service agents 459 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: ran down the hallways, and they were yelling at people 460 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: get out, get out now. They said, run, do not walk. Run, 461 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 3: get out of the building, get out of here. So 462 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: Heidi got up and ran. Her car was parked at 463 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: a parking garage and she was not able to get 464 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 3: her car out because they were not letting anyone get 465 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: their cars out. So you were mentioning people walking walking 466 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: in bare feet. Well, one of those people was Heidi 467 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: Suzanne Cruz who walked across Memorial Bridge. She pulled off 468 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: her high heels and walked in bare feet from the 469 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 3: White House to Northern Virginia. And I'm watching this in 470 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: horror as it plays out, and the cell phone coverage 471 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: was terrible, so I was having a really hard time 472 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: getting in touch with Heidi because the towers were overloaded. 473 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 3: Then at nine thirty seven am, a third flight crashed 474 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: into the Pentagon. American Airlines Flight seventy seven crashed into 475 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: the Pentagon at nine thirty seven am. When that happened, 476 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: one of the news networks, I think it was ABC News, 477 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: reported that a plane had hit the White House because 478 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 3: from the angle of the cameras, it looked like there 479 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: was smoke coming up from the White House. You couldn't 480 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: quite tell it was the Pentagon. I'm sitting there looking 481 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: at going, holy crap, Heidi's in the White House, like 482 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: you want to talk about, freaking you out. Seeing on 483 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: the news that a plane is just hit where your 484 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: wife is scares the hell out of you. I connected 485 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: with Heidi shortly thereafter and realized she was okay. But 486 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: I found out later that on that plane on American 487 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 3: Airlines Flight seventy seven was a good friend of mine 488 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: and a good friend of Heide's. 489 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: Barbara Olsen. 490 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: Barbara Olsen was an amazing lawyer. She was married to 491 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: Ted Olsen, who was the guy the US Solicitor General 492 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: at the time, someone I've known for twenty five years. 493 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 3: He's an incredibly talented Supreme Court lawyer. And Barbara called 494 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 3: Ted from the plane and her cell phone connected, and 495 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 3: Ted answered the phone, and she said, what do I 496 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: do now? I want you to imagine you're sitting there 497 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: and you get a phone call from your wife, and 498 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: you are the number three official at the Department of Justice. 499 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: You are watching intently what's unfolding. You've seen two planes 500 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: fly directly into the World Trade Center towers, and you're 501 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: talking to your wife, who knows, you know, is on 502 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: a plane, who had actually stayed over an extra day 503 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: to celebrate Ted's birthday. And her question, Barbara was indomitable. 504 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: She was a fighter, she was ferocious. I loved Barbara 505 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 3: Olson and her question to Ted when she called Ted, 506 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: Ted knew what the hijackers intended. He knew it was 507 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: not look prior to September eleventh, if a plane is hijacked, 508 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: people assumed, Okay, do what the hijackers want, and you know, 509 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: maybe they'll fly to Cuba, maybe they'll go land somewhere 510 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: and demand a ransom. People didn't think the idea of 511 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: flying a jet airliner into a bill and murdering thousands 512 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: of people, that was not something anyone had ever done. 513 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: It's not something anyone had ever thought of. But Ted 514 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: is on the phone with his wife and she's saying, 515 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: what do I do? And that's the last word he heard, 516 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: what do I do? How do we stop them? And 517 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: the line goes dead. Now after that happens an hour 518 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: and forty one minutes after the planes hit the World 519 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: Trade Center towers. The towers collapsed, and I have to 520 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: say the image everyone who was watching. 521 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: The television. 522 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: In the hour and forty one minutes that led up 523 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: to it, you saw the flames going up and up 524 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: and up the building as the jet fuel burned hotter 525 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: and hotter and hotter. You saw an image that they 526 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: no longer show on the news, but we saw over 527 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: and over and over again that day, which is people 528 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: in the upper floors jumping to their and you could 529 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: see bodies. When the first one went, you're like, what 530 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: is that? And you'd see person jump. You know, you're 531 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: at the window, you've got flames. You have a choice 532 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: between being burned to death, you're about to be incinerated, 533 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: or jumping to your death. And we saw person after 534 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 3: person after person jumping off from the upper floors of 535 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: those towers. And an hour and forty one minutes later, 536 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: the two collapse, and every person, I think everyone said 537 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: the same words as you watch that, oh. 538 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: My god, yeah. 539 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 3: Like it didn't. As you're watching it, you did not 540 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: believe the towers could collapse, And as you saw them 541 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: come down, you realize there are thousands of people. 542 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: Being murdered all at once. 543 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: And the brave men that were going up there taking 544 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: the stairs because the elevators had locked down and. 545 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: They firefighters who ran in and ran in, and ran 546 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: in and ran towards the flame, and who died and 547 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: knew they were risking death. 548 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: They did it, and they did it because they thought 549 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 2: they were going to save people's lives. And I go 550 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: back to if you've never been to the nine to 551 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: eleven Museum memorial, you should go. And I will never 552 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: forget picking up. They have these phones that you can 553 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: pick up and listen to the final messages and the 554 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 2: phone calls that people left that died on those planes. 555 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: And if you've never listened to them, you should. A 556 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: lot of them are actually on YouTube. I would encourage 557 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: you to go and listen to those and you tell 558 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 2: me if these men deserve to live, and they don't. 559 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: And the White House could stop this, but they're not 560 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: trying to stop this. They're wanting this to happen because 561 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: they want to close GITMO for political reasons. The same 562 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: way they don't care about anyone that was left behind 563 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: that died in Afghanistan after we pulled out on the 564 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: anniversary nine to eleven. They don't care about any of 565 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: the people that risk their lives for literally over a decade, 566 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: many of the translators and others that ate and abedded 567 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: American soldiers and our allies from around the world that 568 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: were left there to be tortured and brutalized and murdered 569 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: and raped because they didn't have an adequate plan to 570 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: get people out. 571 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: We still are to this day and center. I know 572 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: you know this. There are still men that serve this country. 573 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: I was in Fort Bragg a week and a half ago, 574 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: and there are still people there that are trying to 575 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: get their translators and others that helped Americans and by 576 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: the way, save their American soldiers' lives, and when bombs 577 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: went off, they risked their lives and were taking fire 578 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: to help drag a man off the battlefielder from a 579 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: humvee that's on fire, that has been blown up with 580 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: a roadside bomb. And they're still in Afghanistan trying to 581 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: get them out because the Tabiban has that list and 582 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: they are hunting them down now and have hunted down 583 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 2: many already. And this president says, no, no, we don't care 584 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 2: about that. We're going to have a celebration that we 585 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 2: got out of Afghanistan, ended America's longest war, and that'll 586 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: make people love us the same way they think, well, 587 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: git Mo's a terrible place because people were waterboarded there. 588 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: We want to close that down as well. 589 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: And if you are a family member and you receive 590 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: this letter, I cannot imagine that you would ever have 591 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: any faith in the United States of America ever again 592 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: on any level. If we allow this to happen. The 593 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: only way we stop it is pressure. 594 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? 595 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 3: There has to be public outcry that that is the 596 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: only thing conceivably that can change it. And I got 597 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: to say one of the shocking and shameful things is 598 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: the national media isn't covering this. Ask yourself, did you 599 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 3: see this on the news tonight? Was it on the 600 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: six o'clock news? Was it on the national news? Have 601 00:34:54,600 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: you read it in the newspaper? Is an exception which 602 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: at least one station in New York City, and kudos 603 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 3: to them covered it. And then we had to play 604 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: what they covered because it's I appreciate at least one 605 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 3: station covering it. 606 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, in New York City, CBS Channel two, they did 607 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 2: cover this from a local standpoint. 608 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: This was international. 609 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: This was local CBS News in New York City, And 610 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: I want you to hear what they had to say 611 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: about this. 612 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: The suspected mastermind of the September eleventh terror attacks, along 613 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 4: with four other defendants, could escape the death penalty under 614 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: a plea agreement being considered. CBS Tuesday, Brennan is hearing 615 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 4: from family members who are now outraged, Dick. 616 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: Indeed, they are Christine. 617 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 5: The prosecution of the nine to eleven defendants at Guantanamo 618 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 5: Bay has been delayed for years, but military prosecutors and 619 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 5: defense lawyers had begun exploring a negotiated resolution to the case. 620 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 5: But a potential deal that's being floated has infurior aid 621 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 5: some nine to eleven family members. 622 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 6: Generally, I just think that the consensus is that it's 623 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 6: a bad deal. 624 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 5: Daniel Bilardinelli lost his uncle, William Cashman, on Flight ninety three, 625 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 5: which crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, on September eleventh. He says 626 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: the five defendants, including the suspected mastermind, Kalichek Muhammad, deserved 627 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 5: no mercy. 628 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 6: I'm personally a very forgiving person, as is my family, 629 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 6: but their actions are unforgivable. 630 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 5: But the Pentagon sent this letter to nine to eleven 631 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 5: families revealing plead deals are being considered in which the 632 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 5: five men would accept criminal responsibility for their actions and 633 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 5: plead guilty in exchange for not receiving the death penalty. 634 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: It's more heartbroken. 635 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 5: Kristen Breitweiser's husband Ron died in the World Trade Center, 636 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 5: and she can't understand why a deal would be offered. 637 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: I thought I lived in the United States of America. 638 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 5: I thought we were a nation based upon the rule 639 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 5: of law, and obviously that's turned out not to be 640 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 5: the case. The five men have been at Guantanamo in 641 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 5: a kind of legal limbo, with delays and disputes that 642 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 5: have grinded the wheels of justice to a practical halt, 643 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 5: in part because the CIA interrogations of the suspects that 644 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 5: critics called torture. A lawyer for one of the defendants 645 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 5: said last year a plea deal within the impasse. 646 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 6: He is willing to plead guilty, serve a long sentence 647 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 6: at Guantanamo in exchange for medical care for his torture 648 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 6: and taking the death penalty off the table. 649 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 5: But that's not enough for Daniel Billard Neelly when he 650 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 5: thinks about the horror of Flight ninety three. 651 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 6: I was supposed to be on the flight I canceled, 652 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 6: and I saw the photo of the field and just 653 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 6: made me think like, oh my god, that's where I 654 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 6: could have died. They're taking the death bones off the 655 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 6: table for someone that committed a heinous crime beyond him. 656 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 6: These are awful. They're not even human what they did. 657 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: They're not even human what they did. 658 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: Senator, I rarely did a show make me angry. 659 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: Are frustrated. 660 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 2: I would challenge everyone to go and to google the 661 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 2: mastermind of nine to eleven, Cleavee Chate Muhammad, Read his history, 662 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: Read who he is? Read how long you've been doing this? 663 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: Look at the other four. Ramsey is another one who 664 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 2: is a horrific human being. These people are involved, by 665 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 2: the Way in beheadings Daniel Pearl and other beheadings. These 666 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 2: are not human beings. These are sadistic people that do 667 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 2: not deserve to live, and they are the worst people 668 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 2: in the world, and not a single country wants them. 669 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: I think that's part of what people don't understand about 670 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: the reason why they want this PLEADEO is we've tried to. 671 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 3: By the Way again. Daniel Pearl again. Some of our 672 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 3: younger listeners may not remember this. They beheaded him live 673 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 3: on the internet. They held his head and with like 674 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: a sword, a giant knife. They severed his neck and 675 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 3: cut his head off his body, and they broadcast it 676 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 3: to the world. 677 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: And use it to recruit people on top. 678 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, it's how they brought in other religious 679 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 3: fanatics and psychopaths who wanted to murder Americans. And this 680 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: administration does not take fighting that evil seriously. 681 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: And you know, let me ask this, what can we do? 682 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 2: I mean, is this where we say, hey, if you're 683 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: a listener, and there are hundreds of thousands of you 684 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: that will hear this, do they need to all call 685 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: their congress centers and say, hey, you need to send 686 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: up for these the victims of nine to eleven and 687 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 2: say no to this plea? 688 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 5: Do you? 689 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: And yes, pressure on the way, how we need to 690 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: speak out? 691 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 3: If you care about the heroes of nine to eleven, 692 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: if you care about the firefighters and the police officers 693 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 3: who rushed into those towers, who rushed into the Pentagon 694 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: to pull soldiers burning soldiers out of harm's way, who 695 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 3: lost their lives, if you care about that, speak out 696 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 3: and demand justice. And by the way, I'm going to 697 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: make a prediction as well, which is that these are 698 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: not the only mass murderers that I think this administration 699 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 3: is going to refuse to follow federal law and impose 700 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: the death ben I'm going to make a prediction right now, 701 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: which is Joe Biden, before he leaves the White House, 702 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 3: will commute the sentence of every federal prisoner on death row. 703 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 3: That he will do it for every one of them. 704 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 3: And that includes It includes the white supremacist and Nazi 705 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: who murdered nine African Americans at the Mother Emmanuel Ame 706 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: Church in Charleston, South Carolina, in a horrific hate crime. 707 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: He's on federal death row. 708 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 3: It includes the Boston bomber who murdered innocent people by 709 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: exploding a bomb at the Boston Marathon. One of the 710 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: two brothers is still alive. He's on death row. And 711 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: my prediction right now is Joe Biden tends to spare 712 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 3: every one of these mass murderers, every one of them. 713 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: Many of them are racist, bigoted, homicidal lunatics, and I 714 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 3: think we're going to see him commute all of their 715 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: sentences before he leaves the White House. 716 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, if you won't, if you won't take out the 717 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 2: mastermind of nine to eleven, and you won't give him 718 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: the death penalty is there anyone that you'll give it to. 719 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't it doesn't get any worse than this. 720 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 2: And the number of people that he killed, and the 721 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: number of people killed before nine to eleven, and the 722 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: number of people he killed after nine eleven, and the 723 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: number of people that he recruited to kill men. It's 724 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: not just nine eleven that Khalid chik Muhamed these. 725 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: Other four did. 726 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: It was what they did after nine eleven, when we 727 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 2: showed up in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the recruitment that 728 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 2: they did online to bring in the Jihadis to come 729 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 2: after and kill American soldiers in our allies. The number 730 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: of people who died is in the thousands and thousands 731 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: because of their actions before nine to eleven that day 732 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: and after nine eleven, when they and their words they 733 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 2: were just getting started. They wanted that catalyst, that was 734 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 2: the firework to ignite the war with the United States 735 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 2: of America. They wanted that war and that was their goal. 736 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: And now to give them a plea deal I think 737 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: may be the worst thing that Joe Biden has ever 738 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: done to if he allows us to happen. Clearly it's 739 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: coming from his directive. I hope everybody that's listening. I 740 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 2: just I don't we Look, we have commercials that we do, folks, 741 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 2: and I'm just not going to do them anymore night. 742 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to do them. 743 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: I think this is more important and I just don't 744 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 2: feel comfortable doing that. We'll get back to what we 745 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: have to do for the show, but I'm just going 746 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: to say now, it's more important that you guys share 747 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 2: this with your family and friends, shared on social media. 748 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: No one is covering this, and we need to make 749 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: sure that everybody hears about this before Monday or Tuesday 750 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 2: of next week, so that there is total outrage at 751 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: this administration and anyone that supports this. Call your congressman, 752 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: call your senator, wherever you live. Let them know that 753 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 2: this is something as an American you're not okay with. 754 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 2: Please put this episode up where other people see it, 755 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: and be activists on social media yourself right now. 756 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Demand that the media cover this. 757 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 3: Demand that the media actually cover the news instead of 758 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 3: just being partisan propagandists. 759 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I couldn't agree more, Senator. 760 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: This is when I do I hate this story, but 761 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 2: I love that we have this show to do this. 762 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 2: Please share it with all your family and friends, and 763 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: we will see you back here in a couple of days.