WEBVTT - Draft Show: Final Senior Bowl Thoughts 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:06.880 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.320 war room for in center news and draft analysis from 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.840 deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:19.439 in Frisco, Dallas Cowboys like C. D. Lamb and now 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:25.400 your hosts Dane Brugler, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:31.120 Yeoman's It's a wonderful Thursday edition of the Draft Show, 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.040 presented by Miller Lite from the SWBC Mortgage Studios here 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.600 from the Star in Frisco, as we continue to get 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:41.160 you ready for the NFL Draft, as it is now 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.360 just eighty one days away. April twenty ninth is when 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.040 things kick off in Cleveland, Ohio, and it's starting to 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.760 get to be crunch time because well the Senior Bowl 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:52.680 is in the rear view mirror. The heat is starting 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.080 to get turned up on these front offices, and the 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.360 same thing goes for the Draft Show. Jeff Kavanaugh, We've 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.480 got Kevin kat Turner, Dane Brugler from the Athletic. I'm 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.800 Kyle Yelman's just trying to drive the bus as always 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.959 here on this show. And gentlemen, the like I said, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.679 Senior Bowl in the rear view mirror, we talked about 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.280 it a little bit on Tuesday with Bucky Brooks. Brian 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.400 brought us and David Hellman and had a great conversation 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.880 about kind of the Cowboys feel with it. I kind 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.120 of want to get in to some of the prospects today. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.640 We're gonna talk a lot about the quarterback position. We're 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.520 gonna talk about the corners as well. In that secondary 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.880 we can the Cowboys find their type of corner, and 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.680 by type of corner, Jeff Kavanaugh has a different idea 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.760 of what type of corner he potentially wants to see 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.280 as a Dallas Cowboy. But Dane start us off by 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.920 kind of giving us your final general thoughts in terms 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.520 of the Senior Bowl. What you took from the week 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.600 down in Mobile. It was definitely weird. It was definitely different, 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:53.080 and you know, that's different than what we're used to. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.400 But at the same time, I'm very thankful that we 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:57.520 had it. You know, all the credit the Jim Nage 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.560 and his staff for we're being able to pull it 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:04.560 off um and a safe environment and gave the team's 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.960 opportunity to look at these guys even more, and it 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.200 also gave a lot of these players the opportunity to 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.840 help themselves and we are we touched on it, you know, 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.920 last week a little bit just you know, some of 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.359 the risers guys that helped themselves. But some of these players, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:20.120 you know, we we're gonna look at them totally different 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.440 now compared to uh, you know, a week ago because 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.440 of what they were able to do. Quinn Miners from Wisconsin, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.359 Whitewater being you know, one of the biggest risers, a 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.560 guy like Richie Grant who I had a third round 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.239 grade on him, loved them coming into the week after 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.440 seeing him live and up close like that, he's going 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.520 in the top fifty. That's you know, you gained a 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.200 different bandage point. I think seeing these guys live, at 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.360 least for me, and that's you know, my process and 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.600 the way I look at these guys. Um, you know, 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.720 but a lot of other players helped themselves. D Escridge 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.120 from Western Michigan. Um, you know, it's just it's a 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.240 loaded group of slot receivers in that second to fourth 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.200 round range. How were these guys guys gonna really shake 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:00.960 out in terms of how they're gonna be stacked? And 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:05.160 you know, Dskridge and Marie Rogers and Shy Smith. The 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.600 guys that were down there, Kaye Johnson, they were able 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.239 to make, you know, kind of a statement like why 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.919 they should be a little bit higher. So just a 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.280 really productive week and I think we have a better 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.640 feel for these players now than we did before the 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.920 Senior Bowl. Katie. Yeah, I would say my thoughts, and 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:25.560 I don't want to be a jerk, but if I 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.600 was a cornerback, I would not go to the Senior 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.800 Bowl ever again because all the wide receivers are really good. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.240 And I'm kind of kidding, I'm sort of kidding a 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.160 little bit, but it was amazing how you know, you 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.680 go into the week with an eye on cornerbacks and 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.200 you just get distracted by all of the wide receiver talent. 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.240 And I'm in this world right now. I don't know 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.480 how you guys look on your boards. And I know 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.480 on the Thursday incarnation of the Draft Show, we haven't 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.520 done a lot of wide receiver talk yet, partially because 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.320 the Cowboys are kind of set there. But I'm sitting 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.520 there going, Okay, am I really gonna have fifteen? Am 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.480 I really gonna have twenty wide receivers in the top 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.120 three rounds? Like there's a lot of separation on the 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.360 draft board. I'm gonna have to figure out because I've 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:14.720 as I continue to work through the wide receivers, I'm going, okay, well, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.520 there's enough about him that I like that I would 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.760 consider him a top one hundred pick. And I end 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.400 up going, oh my god. And then meanwhile I can wait, 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.040 going okay, well, what cornerbacks really impressed me? Keith Taylor 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.480 was great in the game on Saturday. Keith Taylor, the 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.200 cornerback from Washington. I'm not sure I loved his tape. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.640 In fact, I can tell you that I didn't really 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.760 like his tape. But he was moving a little better 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.240 at the Senior Bowl, and you're asking yourself, Okay, how 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:43.039 do you balance that out? Did he just improve? Like 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.560 what happened? So I'm more confused at quarterback maybe than 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.520 ever based on the guys who were at the Senior Bowl. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.760 But man, that wide receiver position, I'm in love. I 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.599 would never sign a wide receiver again. I think I'll 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.800 just continue to draft him. They're incredible. That's a good 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.200 point point because I thought throughout the week it was 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.400 impressive for some of those corners that ended up playing 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.680 decently well. I mean, you mentioned Keith Taylor. I thought 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.000 he had a poor week to practice, and I'm right 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.920 there with you, Katsie. I don't like his tape that much. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.239 I mean I had like a late third round grade 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.520 on him in terms of his tape. But he played 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.280 really well in the Senior Bowl. I mean there were 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:23.400 guys like, oh man, I'm blanking on their names. Oh, 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.240 Trey Norwood and Trey Brown, both out of Oklahoma. I 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.120 thought they had decent weeks of practice, and then I 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.720 don't think they played very well. So overall, I think 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.920 you're looking at the cornerback position as something that is 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:36.920 kind of wishy. Watch you when you go up against 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.839 those receivers that are as talented as the wide receiver 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:42.800 group was down in Mobile. Now, Jeff, what were your 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:44.920 kind of thoughts on the week. Did you agree in 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.360 the fact that some of these corners just didn't show 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.680 out the way that you thought they would well. I 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.560 think I would think that NFL teams no going into 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.120 this that it's really hard because in the real world, 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.640 it's not all that often that you're legitimately going to 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.640 be you guy all by yourself, and he can run 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.760 a drag all the way across the field five yards 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.560 and it's like, oh, good luck. So I think NFL 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.320 teams know that it's advantage wide receiver in the one 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.120 on one drills. But I think guys like um melifon 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.680 Wu from Syracuse, Aaron Robinson, Central Florida, I think there 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:21.080 were dbs that that helped themselves throughout the Senior Bowl practices. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.320 So I wouldn't I wouldn't be terrified to go there 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.760 if I was a dB, I would just know that 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.080 you're gonna go there and it's gonna be what you're 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.520 used to in practice settings. One on one is hard 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.320 and you gotta you gotta really believe in yourself and 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:38.159 go ball out. But there's there's there's opportunities to make plays. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.120 And I thought some of those guys, did Dan, do 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.080 you agree? Yeah? I thought Trey Brown was one of 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:49.160 those guys who he's five ft ten on a good day, 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.440 but his competitiveness that he played with was awesome to 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.599 watch during practice. Really impressed with what he did. Yeah, 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.400 I mean, I agree with Jeff, and it's I think 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.080 that it's you're as a corner, You're expected that you're 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.159 probably gonna have a tough time, You're gonna get beat. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.000 So if you do make a play, teams, you're gonna 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.560 remember that. And so I think you take your chances 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.760 and you go there and compete. And you know, we 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.920 saw it, you know this year where the guy like 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:16.560 like like I said, with Trey Brown, I thought helped 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.239 himself as a he projects probably as more of a nickel, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.480 but a guy that coming out of Senior Bowl week, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.520 teams maybe have a little bit better opinion of what 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.560 did you think of MVP or offensive MVP of the 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.080 Senior Bowl Kellen Mond. And I know a lot of 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.480 fans around here want to hear about Kellen Mond because 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.800 they just grew up Aggie fans. I mean there's a 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.840 lot of Texas and Maggie's around this state. And I 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.320 know with Kellen Mond, there's been kind of wishy washy 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:47.880 whenever it comes to his thought process, the whenever it 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.520 comes to his draft rating. I mean, the inconsistency is 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.000 on the field and off the field with him in 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.400 terms of the grading of him and the scouting of him. Dan, 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.520 what did you think about him throughout the week? And 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:02.800 ultimately Coleman in that MVP outing during the game. But 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.360 I kind of want to just hear about what he 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:09.200 did at the Senior Bowl. I think it mirrored what 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.240 we saw on tape for his career at A and M. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.760 And the thing that just bothers me the most with 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.400 hitting with Mind is I could show you a clip 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.080 from or a game from his sophomore year and then 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.440 show you a game from a senior year and it 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.880 looks like it was, you know, the same same guy. Yeah, 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.600 I just I think the same level of inconsistency. He's 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.439 clearly talented. Clearly he's got, you know, a good arm, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.240 he can move around a little bit, He'll make some 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:39.040 really impressive throws. His highlights are as impressive as anybody's. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.480 But when you talk about the full scope, the body 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.640 of work, I just see the same player that we 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.560 saw as a sophomore that we're seeing as a senior. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.800 And we saw during practice up and down with his 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.760 decision making, up and down with his placement down the field. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.000 So it's easy to look at his highlight tape and say, Okay, yeah, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.040 this guy can play. But when you look at the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.440 full body of work, it's just it's just a back 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.800 and so I find it really hard to get excited 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.840 about any of these senior quarterbacks. Uh, there's not a 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.480 there's not a single senior quarterback that I'm really overly 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.400 excited about. And you know, Man's kind of in that 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.080 mix with with Jamie Newman and you know the rest 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.760 of that group that probably gonna go somewhere on day three. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.680 It's just, uh, you know, hard to guess exactly where. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.640 It's just gonna come down to teams and their preference 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.839 and exactly what they're looking for. You're still not very 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:30.880 excited about mac Jones either. Well, I don't consider he's 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:35.080 not a senior, so you know, he's all the underclassmen 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.440 I can I can get there, even Davis mills from Stanford. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.400 I there's something there. And I you know, I think 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.840 that there's a little bit of optimism for a Davis 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.160 mills Um. You know, I think he's got a good 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.960 chance to be drafted ahead of Kyle trask Um and 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.920 because he's got starter potential. So and mac Jones, he 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.880 I thought he helped himself by being there. I think 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.280 the obvious connection now is going to be with the Panthers. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.440 Matt Rule couldn't help but rave about mac Jones, the 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:06.240 way he handled himself during practice behind the scenes, his leadership, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:09.120 the way guys follow him. It's going to be interesting 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.360 to see how that might play out on draft day 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.960 with the Panthers having a lot more intimate knowledge of 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.560 mac Jones and how he's wired compared to some of 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.800 these other teams that are looking at quarterbacks in the draft. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:24.040 So's it's a really interesting group of quarterbacks this year 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.280 where the first six drafted might all be underclassmen than 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:31.600 the other you know, three or four drafted could be seniors, Jeff, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.920 whenever it comes to the quarterback position, I mean, we're 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.280 talking about these senior quarterbacks, but I mean it's a 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.200 it's a very heavy field. Whenever you look at Trevor Lawrence, Justine, 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.080 Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, all of which that will probably 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.400 go inside the top ten. And now there's been rumblings 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.080 around Dak Prescott and of course we're coming down to 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.520 the wire. I mean, the transition tag period starts in 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.200 nineteen days and it ends a couple weeks after that 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.040 or three weeks after that, So ultimately your clock is 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.199 running out on Dak Prescott if you're the Cowboys right now. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.200 And Brian broad Us has said this previously on the 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.360 Tuesday show that once that time starts clicking and it 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.520 starts taking a little bit further down, and you have 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.240 to franchise Dak Prescott, you're gonna have to start talking 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.960 about one of these quarterbacks. But which quarterback would you 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:20.120 want to talk about? If you were the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.719 I would like to quote the great Kevin Turner if 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.600 I could, let you know. He's pretty good at this stuff. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:32.839 I hate, I hate quarterbacks. So if you are the Cowboys, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:37.000 what you should do is sign your top eight quarterback 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.120 in the NFL. You should have done that two years ago, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.199 one year ago, and then you should do it again. Now. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.640 Now if because you are the Cowboys front office, you've 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:49.760 screwed this up so royally that now it's gonna be really, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.360 really hard because Dak's like, well, I'm on the doorstep 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:54.360 to free agency, so you're gonna have to blow me away. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.640 And Jerry's still like, hey, you signed what we offer 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.800 you and that's it. And yeah, you may have to 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:03.680 look at a guy because you have a top ten pick. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:08.440 And I think realistically you're gonna be talking about either 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:13.120 Justin Fields, Trey Lance, or Mac Jones because just going 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.040 off of what we hear and what we're seeing. I 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.320 would imagine that Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are gone, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.760 and then it's kind of the wild card what is 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.800 the order and how quickly do they all go? Because 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.320 I could totally see a scenario where five quarterbacks are 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.199 gone when the Cowboys pick. I could see that, yeah, 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.480 But I think we also have to acknowledge it's possible 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.800 that two quarterbacks are gone when the Cowboys pick. It's 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.559 the weirdest top of a draft that I've seen in 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:42.200 the seven years that I've been doing this, because I 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.280 don't know if you're like, if you're not sold, there's 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.800 teams in the top five or in the top eight 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.520 that there's at least four or five of them that 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.760 I think should take quarterbacks. But if you don't believe 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.240 in the guys that are available this year, then you're 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.320 not going to because all of these teams have other 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.480 options they could roll with. So if you're the Cowboys 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.200 and it's Hey, which guy are you keeping an eye on? 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.559 I guess the most likely answer would probably be Trey 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:10.600 Lance North Dakota State, And that would be wild to me. 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.360 If the Cowboys were like, Hey, we're gonna move on 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.160 from a top eight quarterback in the league because this 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.200 guy's got a big harmonies athletic and maybe you could 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.680 be good one day. So Cowboys, sign your quarterback. Come 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.400 on the magical mystery ride with me real quick. I'm 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.160 coming to you now as half myself, Kevin Turner and 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.520 half the Dallas Cowboys. And the fact that we're even 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.360 talking about this already tells you that the Cowboys are 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.880 pretty comfortable being lucy goosey at the quarterback position, because 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.520 otherwise the deal would have already been done, like it 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:41.880 just would have been done. And I don't want to 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.520 hear the stuff about Dak's side and what they're demanding. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.160 There's a market value. The deal could have been done 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.880 and should have been done, all right, And that's the 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:54.160 end of that. That being said, after taking a full dive, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.640 I carved out some special time to really go through 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.480 all few of the games that we have of North 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:04.280 Dakotas day. My quarterback too this year is Trey Lance, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.000 and I am so comfortable with that. I'm kind of 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.080 I'm kind of in love with the guy again. I'm 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.480 willing to be loosey goosey at the quarterback position, I 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.240 guess right, because I mean, I think Dak should be 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:20.440 your quarterback. But if we're gonna get to this point, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.000 this hypothetical area that we're talking about, which would even 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.800 have us talking about a quarterback, that I'm doing whatever 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.000 it takes to get Trey Lance on my team. If 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.440 I'm the Dallas Cowboys, he would have an ideal one 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.960 year to sit while Dak is on the tag and 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.520 then we are ready to go. I think his ball 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:39.760 placement and armed talent is just as good as as 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.640 Zach Wilson's better than Zach Wilson personally. I think the 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.720 way that he has he feels pressure in the pocket, 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.920 like anyone can play when the pocket's clean, right, but 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.480 when he can fill it in the pocket, And that's 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.880 something that I didn't always see with Justin Fields. A 0:14:56.920 --> 0:15:00.000 little escapability. Yeah, I can kind of kind of move around. 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.720 I didn't always feel it. Trey Lance feels it. And 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.320 for a nineteen year old to have that season he had, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.560 he looked pretty advanced. He didn't look like a nineteen 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.440 year old. And I understand Division two, I get all 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:14.800 that stuff, But if we're if we're rolling dice anyway 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.320 at the position. That's my guy, because there's a whole 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:21.360 other dynamic. He adds. Watch the James Madison game from 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.840 twenty nineteen, which he only throws the ball like fifteen 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.880 times that game. He runs the ball thirty times in 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.800 that game. Is the new GM that game an entire 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.760 other to the game? Yeah, twenty nineteen, he would be 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:37.000 in that game, right, Trey versus the news, that's that's 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:43.640 that's fascinating. Uh, is your guy? No, it's very boord. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.160 I mean, you talk about a guy, and I like 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.240 Trey Lance, but I mean we have to recognize just 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.760 how unprecedented of an evaluation this is. The guy has 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.120 seventeen career starts, all versus FCS competition. Uh. You look 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.560 at his college resume and the stats just on paper 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.880 look great eight but you know many times he trailed 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.080 in the second half of a game in his career once. Like, 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.360 there's so much about him we don't know. There are 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.160 so many one read and then run type of plays 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.680 on his film where he's not making full read or 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.640 full field reads. He's not going through progressions things like that. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.840 You know last year, this this great season that he 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.560 had which was statistically great sixteen to those season national 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.920 title fcs. He averaged in his career eighteen point six 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.600 pass attempts per game. Meanwhile the running game, they averaged 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.320 forty five rush attempts per game. At the North Dakota State, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.400 they leaned on that rush, that run game. That's that's 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.920 what their offense is based off of, and then they would, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.360 you know, uh, pass off of that. So I love 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.840 the traits. I think that the poise that he shows 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.520 is really impressive. You know, the competitive nature that he has. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.680 I like, but there's just there's so much about him 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.600 as a quarterback that we don't know. And maybe he'll 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.760 get there, but I mean we have to recognize just 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.280 how big of a risk that it is, not not 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.399 just you know, moving on from dak and going to 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.880 a new quarterback, but moving on to a new quarterback 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:12.280 that is so we just there's so many unknown variables 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.200 right now. I mean, for me, I'm a Zach Wilson guy. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:18.520 I wrote about it back in October. I took a 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.919 lot of heat when I said he's, you know, right 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.920 there in the mix to be quarterback too, behind Trevor 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.879 Lawrence UM. But I think more people are catching on 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:29.199 that Zach Wilson is he's legit and I think, you know, 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.040 when I quarterback, it's such a hard position to evaluate, 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.000 and you know, I've had plenty of misses doing this, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:39.719 so you know, don't. I am not like the final 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.000 voice on on these quarterback prospects. But something that I 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:47.560 really look for is the ability to make the great 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.640 spontaneous decision. That's a that's an old Bill Walsh thing. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.760 You want guys that can make that spontaneous decision and 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.280 create and to me, that's Zach Wilson. His ability, his 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.480 feel for throwing off platform, his field, for ball placement 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.120 down the field, He's naturally accurate. He's got a whip 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.520 of an arm. I wish you were a little bit bigger. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.040 There's some durability concerns there, uh, you know, just that narrow, 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.080 narrow frame. But you know, and sometimes he'll play an overdrive, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.159 he'll you know, bail the pocket before he needs to. 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.000 Mechanics get a little wild that that that's part of 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.240 his game. But he has a natural ball placement to 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.080 him down the field. I think there's a lot you 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.440 can do with Zach Wilson. I think he's the clear 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.679 number two quarterback in this draft, but it's it's just 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.640 a really intriguing group of pastors because they're all really 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.159 really talented, and you know, they could all end up 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.679 being starters in this league. Just to play Devil's advocate here, Dane, 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:44.240 and you were talking about with Trey Lance and his 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.400 competition and the unknowns, and there certainly are a ton 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.760 of unknowns coming from an FCS level regardless. But with 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.360 Zach Wilson, are there not still a ton of unknowns? 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.800 Because he had one good season? I mean, yeah, yeah, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.360 the decent year twenty nineteen, but I mean his completion 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.560 percentage went from sixty two to seventy three in one 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:04.240 year and then all of a sudden, he's a top 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.679 two quarterback in this draft, behind Trevor Lawrence. But he 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.280 also played kind of lesser competition than the guys like 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.520 a Justin Fields and a Trevor Lawrence and a Kyle 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.680 Trask and a Mac Jones. Because you look at by 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:22.560 US competition, Troy Navy Louisiana Attack UTSA, Texas State, North 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:27.000 Alabama Coastal Carolina was their toughest game. I think overall, 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.359 there's still a lot of question marks around Zach Wilson. 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.000 White is Zach Wilson more of a lock than a 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:37.240 maybe a Trey Lance. Well, I just think we know 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.560 more about Wilson, and I mean, you're absolutely right in 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.359 terms of the level of competition, But I also think 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:46.360 there's a pretty big gap from you know, talking about 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:51.000 Troy compared to the Missouri Valley Conference. Yes, yes, level, 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.000 And you know that's just the facts. Nothing against that 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.119 level of camp. It's just there's there's a different competition 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.000 level in terms of talent. So, you know, Zach Wilson 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.119 and I think, you know, he also benefited from a 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.119 strong run game. A strong run game, reliable targets to 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.520 throw to a good offensive line. So yeah, absolutely, I don't. 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.800 I don't think Zach Wilson's a sure thing by any means. 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.760 I just I'm a more believer, more of a believer 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.280 in his talent um. I think we've seen more, we 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.679 know more about him compared to uh, Trey Lance. And 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.880 then you know, let's just throw Justin Fields into the mix, 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:23.600 you know, so we can you know, talk about him 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.919 as well. I think that there's a lot to like 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.960 about him from a physical perspective. Uh, you know, he's 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:30.879