1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Jason Smith 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Show with Mike Harmen podcast. Be sure to catch us 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: live every weeknight from ten pm to two am Eastern 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: seven to eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: your local station for The Jason Smith Show with Mike 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: Harmon at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: live every night on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: Oh that is us, That is us. Good evening, everybody. 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: Aaron Torres, Arnie Span, You're in for the guys tonight 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 4: Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon right here 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: The bonus hour of the show. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 4: You want to be part of the show, real simple, 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: Aaron underscore Torres at Twitter. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm its Thinking Genius one. 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 4: Like Corey said, maybe Torres can sove an age old riddle? 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: Why does Thinking Genius refer to our four as the 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: bonus hour when Jason and Mike always do a four 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: hour show. Well, I don't do a four hour show. 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 4: I do a three hour show. So my fourth hour 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 4: is the bonus hour? 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: What do they call it? 25 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Man? 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: What are they just well fourth hour? 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 5: They all seused to be a three hour show too. 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know that. 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, back, wow, look at that back when I started 30 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 6: now eight years ago in a day. Because it's on 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 6: the East coast, it's uh, I guess it's July fifth, but. 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 4: Yes, today was Aaron Torres's anniversary at Fox Sports Radio. HM, 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: so congratulations to you. I didn't think you'd make it 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 4: this long to be Do. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 6: You want to talk Gordon Hayward signing with the Celtics? 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 6: That was the big topic July fourth, twenty eighteen, I mean, 37 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 6: are twenty seventeen. I remember I was like nervous all day, 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 6: like what are we gonna to And you know, Mike, 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 6: Mike Harmon did a great job of just sending over 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 6: you know, hey, these are the eight nine stories that 41 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 6: we might talk about, and it's like I got pages 42 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 6: of notes. 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: Like oh, this like quirky Wimbledon story. 44 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 6: Of whatever, and I'm like, oh, you know, you know, 45 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 6: first that first show, you know you're over prepared, and 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: then probably like an hour before he went on air, 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 6: Gordon Hayward signed with the Celtics, and uh kind of 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 6: blew up the rundown. But it gave us something to 49 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 6: talk about, and uh, it's been smooth sale ever since then. 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 4: Which co host that you've worked with has taught you 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 4: the most? 52 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 3: Has really? 53 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: You know, said, Wow, this guy is fantastic. I could 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: learn from him. Probably somebody that went to University of Arizona. 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: I'm guessing that lives in Vermont. 56 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: But you you could. 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 6: You said about him, you said, the coast that's taught 58 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 6: me the least. 59 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh wow, Wow, you're so mean. I try to 60 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: be so nice to you, and this is what I got. 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: Mean Mike. Even Mary says you're so mean to me. 62 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 5: Mike caught me fat on air two days No, I. 63 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: Just said you. 64 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: I just said, it looks like you're a little bloated, 65 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: and it looks like you've been eating salt sandwiches. 66 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 5: Yes, that was the exact quote for paid him. 67 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: You ever had a salt sandwich? I'm sure you have. 68 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 5: No, I don't think I've ever had a just a 69 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: salt sandwich. 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: No, that doesn't that's not on your menu. 71 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 6: No, I'm trying to eat healthier. I'm about to be forty, 72 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: so I gotta. 73 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: Get out of here. 74 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: How did you get so old? 75 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 5: I know that's how it works. This is also the 76 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 5: youngest that I'll ever be right now, I gotta take advantage. 77 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: All right, we got a lot to get to. 78 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: Like I said, we did start off by talking about 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: the Nathan's Hot Dog. 80 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 3: I think people are kind of burnt out about it. 81 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: I thought people be excited this year. Joey just up 82 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 4: returning from a two year hiatus. I thought like, oh yeah, 83 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: it was great to see Joey and he wanted and 84 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: blew away the competition. I think people are getting a 85 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: little burnt out about this and something has to be done, 86 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: something new. 87 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: Maybe they'll put Steven A. Smith on the broadcast. 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, something has got to be newer. Is this the 89 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: best it's going to be? 90 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: In? 91 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: We'll just do it every year? What do you think erin? Yeah? 92 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 6: I mean personally, and I know I'm not supposed to 93 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: say this, but the event just doesn't do anything for 94 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 6: me because I find it disgusting. But I mean, you know, 95 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 6: it's what we talked about last hour is it's almost 96 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 6: like the you know, the old Yukon women's basketball that 97 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 6: was the thing, Like, is Yukon bad for women's basketball 98 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 6: because they went too much? And I will say it 99 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 6: just it does feel like, you know, Joey Chestnut has 100 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: kind of taken the suspense out of the hot dog 101 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 6: eating contest. So, like I said last hour, I said, 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 6: I don't know if it's a Tyreek Hill. We got 103 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 6: to have them, uh, you know, eat against an animal 104 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 6: or what we have to do. You know, Tyreek Hill. 105 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 6: Obviously once upon a time raced to Cheetah. I don't 106 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 6: know if we have to do something like that, but uh, there's. 107 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: People that race the horse too, a race horse really yeah, 108 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: wide receipt. I can't remember who it is off it No, No, 109 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: many years, yeah, yeah, many many many moons ago. 110 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: I cant way. 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 5: I haven't even asked you. Did you have a good 112 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 5: July fourth? Did you do anything? I don't mean to 113 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 5: cut cut into the conversation. 114 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 4: No, No, mine was good. Do a whole heck of 115 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 4: a lot. You know, family is in town. But uh, 116 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: just kind of chilled. I ate two hot dogs after 117 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: the hot dog get he comes rrect. Thought you were tired. Yes, 118 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: I'm like I can down two of them. That's not 119 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: a problem. 120 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 5: It's like you know when you I don't know, I 121 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 5: can't think of a good analogy. 122 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little spicy mustard a little sour kraut. Yeah, 123 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: relish on that. So there you go. Okay, finish that 124 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: thing off, all right. I want to get to Lebron 125 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: and the Lakers, my friend. Do let me ask you 126 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: this before we get to Lebron's coming back and all that. 127 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: What did you make of him in the Cavalier facility? 128 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: I know he says he works out there every summer. 129 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: And what do you think about the hat? What do 130 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: you want to play golf? That said welcome home? Was 131 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: he trying to send the message or is he just 132 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 4: playing games on social media? 133 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: What do you think is going on? 134 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 6: Listen, everything Lebron does is tactical and by design. Yes, 135 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: I agree, yes, and so I don't think any of 136 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 6: this is by accident. By the way, I was filling 137 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 6: in for Plank last week and we talked about the 138 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 6: the quote unquote leaked Instagram video from dinner where he said, Oh, Savannah, 139 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 6: who's his wife, wants me to retire after this year. 140 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 6: It's like, right, Oh, someone just so happened to be 141 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 6: recording at that exact moment and posted it and no 142 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 6: one realized it. Okay, cool, Lebron whatever. So yeah, no, 143 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 6: I mean Listen. I don't think it's by accident. I 144 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 6: do think he wants to go to Cleveland. Listen, he 145 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 6: has always gone to It's it's amazing to me because 146 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 6: he's always blown up every situation that he's had. You know, 147 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 6: he puts so much pressure on whatever organization he's in 148 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 6: to win, win, win, win win, and then you get 149 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 6: to a point where they've they've given up all their 150 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 6: draft capital, all their young assets, all their this, all 151 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 6: there that, and all of a sudden he looks up 152 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 6: and he can't win. And so listen, I think Cleveland 153 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 6: right now is probably closer to an NBA finals, especially 154 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 6: given the fact that they're in this East, which is 155 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 6: kind of a mess right now with all the injuries. 156 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: So I don't know. I don't think it's accidental. 157 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 6: I maybe he's worked out at the Cleveland facility every offseason. 158 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 6: He's never posted about it when he's been on the 159 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 6: Lakers until this. 160 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I had no idea he worked out that the 161 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: facility every summer. 162 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 6: What I think is the more interesting question is would 163 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 6: Cleveland actually want him, because again, you know, you just 164 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 6: don't know what they would have to give up. I mean, 165 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 6: I've seen some Jared Allen stuff. I've seen some Darius 166 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: Garland stuff, but you know you're gonna have to give 167 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 6: up a lot for a forty one year old Lebron. 168 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 6: I just I think this is what I would say, 169 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 6: is this. I think this is the first time in 170 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 6: his life. I don't think he's really wanted in a 171 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 6: lot of places, which is kind of crazy to think about. 172 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: No, do you think I was gonna say, do you 173 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: think waker fans if you took a poll, what percentage 174 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: would want him back? 175 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: What percentage would want him gone? 176 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 6: I think the percentage that would not want him back 177 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 6: is signific figantly bigger than I think the average fan 178 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: would realize, like, oh wow. 179 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: I think it's like seventy five to eighty percent. Because 180 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 5: here's the other thing too. 181 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 6: You got to remember they have Luca now right, Like 182 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 6: it'd be one thing if you still you know, if 183 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 6: you had Anthony Davis, he's on the other side of thirty. 184 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 5: He can't stay healthy. 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 6: You have a twenty five year old just now entering 186 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 6: his prime right in Luka Doncic, and so I think 187 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 6: everybody's just ready to build around him and be as 188 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 6: it may. And I think the other thing too, and 189 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: it goes back to what we talked about earlier. But 190 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 6: you know, Lebron signs that or I guess you would 191 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 6: say he agreed, he opted into the contract, and he 192 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 6: immediately is like, well, you know, I want to build 193 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 6: a championship team. And it's like, Lebron, we're not trading 194 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 6: future draft picks to get some dude that you want 195 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 6: it Like this ain't five years ago, man, Like this 196 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 6: ain't what it was, and. 197 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 5: Yeah it is now. 198 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 4: The Lakers had fifty wins last year, but so did 199 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: Denver and the Clippers, min Soda and the Warriors had 200 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: forty eight, as well as Memphis. So even though the 201 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: Lakers were the three seed, they could have easily been 202 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: the eight seed. They were always separated by two games. 203 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: My question is this Lakers won fifty games. Tough question 204 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 4: because the Lakers are gonna trade. If they trade Lebron, 205 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: they're gonna get obviously something in return. How many games 206 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: do the Lakers win without Lebron on the team for 207 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: next year? They won fifty this year, how many do 208 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: they win next year with no Lebron? 209 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: And let's say one piece to the puzzle. 210 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 6: Do you think do you think they would take assuming 211 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 6: Lucas relatively healthy, do you think they would take a 212 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 6: significant step back? 213 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 4: I mean you mean like five hundred Is that what 214 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: you're saying? 215 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 6: Like, I still think they're a playoff team with a 216 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 6: core led by Luca, don't you. 217 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, absolutely not. 218 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if they win fifty games, but I 219 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: have to see what piece they get back in a 220 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: Lebron trade. Probably nothing great or anything like that. 221 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: You know the other thing I was gonna say, and 222 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 6: I wanted to bring this up to you. I might 223 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 6: be the minority. You might think I'm crazy for saying this. 224 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 6: I think the league kind of needs Lebron to move on. 225 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 6: Like I was watching the playoffs this year. Obviously the 226 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 6: Lakers get eliminated early. And I know when we were 227 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 6: just talking about Joey Chestnutt doesn't really have a personality, 228 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 6: and I understand Shaye doesn't have a personality, and Jalen 229 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 6: Bronson really doesn't say much. But it just feels like 230 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 6: there are a lot of great young stars in this 231 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 6: sport and they are just completely overshadowed by Lebron when 232 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 6: Lebron does listen to us. Right now, we're talking about 233 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 6: Lebron wearing a hat Lebron working out And by the way, 234 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that you picked the wrong topics or 235 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 6: we picked the wrong that's the right thing to talk about. 236 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 6: Lebron is still the biggest story. But it's like, I 237 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 6: don't think you can win a championship if he's your 238 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 6: best player. He sucks the oxygen out of the room. 239 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 6: And it's hard. It's it's hard to like highlight these 240 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 6: new young stars when you still have this guy around. Like, 241 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 6: you know, J Martin and I talk about it all 242 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 6: the time, but I go back to this past year. 243 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 6: How many times were the Lakers on national TV? And yes, 244 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: I'm sure part of it was because of Lebron, but 245 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 6: it's like, or because they're the Lakers, excuse me not, 246 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 6: and it had nothing to do with them having a 247 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: Lebron But it's like, you know, J mar and I 248 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 6: were on the Saturday between the AFC NFC Championship game 249 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 6: and the Super Bowl, and that was the first Saturday 250 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 6: without football forever, first weekend. 251 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 5: Without football forever. 252 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 6: Okay, And I only bring it up because the game 253 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 6: they had on TV was Lakers Warriors, and it's like, 254 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 6: at some point this league has to get off of 255 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 6: Steph and Lebron right right, right, And I just I 256 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 6: don't know. I know I'm rambling, but I think the 257 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 6: NBA would be in a better because I just think 258 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 6: there's a lot of negativity around him. I know I'm 259 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 6: going a long Let me ask you this. 260 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 4: When he does or if he does leave the Lakers, 261 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: do they retire number twenty three? 262 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 6: We talked about this earlier. I thought it was a 263 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 6: great topic about the statue. Listen, it feels like I'm 264 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 6: being a hater. I don't think they should. We talked. 265 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 6: By the way, somebody brought up a great point in 266 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 6: the comments, which is, think about the fact that we 267 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 6: talked about and were right about Lebron is not a 268 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 6: top five all time Laker, but he's a top five 269 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: all time NBA player. 270 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 5: Isn't that kind of funny? 271 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: Right? It's crazy. That's why I said, did they retire 272 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: his number? Or do they put a banner in for him? 273 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 4: Do they have a statue for him? 274 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you do you think he should 275 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 5: get a statue? I shared my thoughts. 276 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: Do you think he should not get a statue? As 277 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: you mentioned earlier, is not one of the top five 278 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: all time Lakers of all time, So forget about that. 279 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: Maybe they retire his number. I don't think i'd get 280 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 4: too upset with that. I mean, like I said, he's 281 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 4: one of the top two best players in the history 282 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: of the game. 283 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: So maybe you show him a little respect. 284 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: That way he did win you an NBA championship, or 285 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: you put a banner in the rafters for him, something 286 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 4: like that. 287 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: What do you think? 288 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just, you know, hate to brag. I thought 289 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 5: I brought up a great point, though. 290 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 6: I mean, you go through guys that have had impact 291 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 6: on this organization as Lakers. I mean not he's not 292 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 6: a top five all time Laker, but if you're talking 293 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 6: about actual impact, like we were talking about earlier, Robert 294 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 6: or has had more impactful moments that led to championships 295 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 6: than Lebron did. Derek Fisher did you know? James Worthy did, 296 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 6: Byron Scott did. And you know, I'm not being sarcastic 297 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 6: when I say this, you know more about the eighties 298 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 6: Lakers than I do. Was a little bit before my time, 299 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 6: but I watched the early and mid two thousands. Paw 300 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 6: Gasol had more of an impact like and I think 301 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: you could actually say like as an actual Laker like 302 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 6: I think there's no doubt you could argue Pawgosol had 303 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 6: a more impactful career. 304 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: So I don't know what they will do. Probably they 305 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: they wont I. 306 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: Think he's gone. 307 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna play for the Lakers this year. 308 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: I think they'll get rid of him before the year starts. 309 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: But when Cleveland, I think he'll be gone. 310 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I just I don't. If you're Cleveland, 311 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: I don't know. 312 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: I don't think he's wanted in Los Angeles anymore. I 313 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: think the Laker fans, as you mentioned, has turned on him. 314 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: I think if you took Au Pollard, be seventy thirty, 315 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: we want Lebron traded. And you're talking about the second 316 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: best player, maybe in the history of the game, maybe 317 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 4: the best player, if you think he's better than Michael Jordan. 318 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 4: There is a negative stereotype with him. I don't know 319 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: if it's because of stuff like we see in the 320 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: social media where he wears a hat that says welcome back, 321 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: or post pictures of him in Cleveland, and always, you know, 322 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: doing the little subtle digs like that. But there's a 323 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: reason why Laker fans want him gone. I really can't 324 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: quite put my finger on it. You know. 325 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question. 326 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: Do you think if the Calves come back as constituted, 327 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 6: so the team that they basically had, or the Calves 328 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 6: minus two or three key pieces? 329 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: But with Lebron, let's just say. 330 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 3: Not give you two or three. I mean, don't take it. 331 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: I mean you have to match salary though, that's the thing. 332 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: But I brought this up earlier. You could pull shenatigans. 333 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: The new owners of the Lakers, the Walter Group, they 334 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: know how to pull Shenet against like they did with 335 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 4: the Dodgers. They can figure something out when it comes 336 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: to salary. They you can't just destroy a team and 337 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: decimate them for Lebron. 338 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: You can't do that. 339 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 6: By the way, one other last Laker slash Lebron question. 340 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 6: Does DeAndre Aen actually move the needle for you at all? 341 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 6: And let me just say this really quick, JMR and 342 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 6: I joke all the time about you know, this past 343 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 6: year with the Lakers, it was like they. 344 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 5: Got Luca, they are the favorites. 345 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 6: And it's like, h they don't really play defense and 346 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 6: they don't have a rim protector and their best player, 347 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 6: you know their two best players is an out of shape, 348 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 6: you know player in his prime and a forty year 349 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 6: old that is very much out of his prime. 350 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 5: So like I have heard a lot of I have 351 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: heard a lot of. 352 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 6: Aggressive DeAndre Ayton takes this week where it's like, oh yeah, 353 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 6: I mean, well, now look at him down and it's 354 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 6: like we all watch the same DeAndre Ayton right right 355 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 6: right kind of. 356 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: If he stays, if he stays healthy, I believe he's 357 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: more of a plus to the hindrance. If he's th Jasky, 358 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: the Lakers are a desperate way to get a center. 359 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: Let's be honest, Yes, but he needed somebody like. 360 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: That to your point earlier. 361 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 6: If if the Lakers They're gonna obviously add some stuff. 362 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 6: But if this is the core of their team in 363 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 6: Lebron stays, are they significantly closer to Okay, see Denver, 364 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 6: whoever else you can? Like? Like, if they had DeAndre 365 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 6: Ayton last year, I still think they lose to the 366 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 6: Minnesota Timberwolves. 367 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 5: In Round one. 368 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 6: I'm not in five, but I think it would have 369 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 6: been in Round one. And I don't think this really 370 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 6: gets them any closer to Denver or Okay. 371 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: So well, they can't get Yannis because you got to 372 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: make a trade to get jan It's not like Jannis 373 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: is a free agent. But if Lebron wasn't gonna be around, 374 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: I'd love to get Jannis on the Lakers, you know 375 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: what I mean? Sure, see if they could work that out. 376 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: And what's gonna happen to Dame Lollard? Where's he going 377 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: to end up? Is it gonna be Golden State? 378 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: I mean, who knows? Is it Boston? What's he gonna do? 379 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 6: I'm a little confused on this. So you're signing him, 380 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 6: and you're paying him, and you're letting him rehab on 381 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 6: your dime for a year from now basically, So basically 382 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: it's like you're signing him to get him for twenty 383 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 6: twenty six, twenty twenty sex. 384 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't have to give him any real 385 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: money because that's all coming from the Bucks from Milwaukee. Okay, 386 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 4: So you're getting him on like the bargain basement money 387 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: there is what you're doing. 388 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't The Warriors does not make any sense 389 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 6: to me, small guard. He's already they're already old enough 390 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 6: that one would not make sense to me. 391 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 4: Who retires first, Steph Curry or Lebron. 392 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: Who's gonna recall it quits. 393 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 5: First good question. I think Lebron. I mean, I think 394 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 5: Lebron's it won't be the same year. 395 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: I promise you that that's not gonna What about. 396 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 5: Kad You think KD moves the needle anymore? 397 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. 398 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's another guy, another guy to bring 399 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: in to try to win the championship. I'm not sure 400 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: that it's going to make a difference down there in Houston. 401 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 4: They're obviously better. I just don't think it's going to 402 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: have and he's just another guy chasing a ring, now, 403 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 4: you know. 404 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 5: Okay, So let me ask you this. 405 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 6: Uh, the Houston Rockets were what the three seed this year? 406 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 5: The two seats, two seed? 407 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: They were the two seeds. 408 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 6: Do you think like like Lakers with DeAndre a in 409 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 6: and no major changes, but they do bring back Lebron 410 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 6: or the Rockets with Kevin Durant, which. 411 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: Probably the Rockets with Kevin Durant. 412 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: I mean, they had a better record to begin with anyway, 413 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: but nobody's better than Oklahoma City. They're still the best 414 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 4: team in the conferences in the league. 415 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: I mean, they did just win the championship, so can't 416 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 5: say that they're not. 417 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 4: And the and the Eastern Conference is pretty much already done. 418 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: You just think it's uh, it's the Nicks in Cleveland. 419 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 4: That's it, I hope. So Indiana's done, they you know, 420 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: with the injury the hollow Burton. The Celtics are done 421 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 4: with their injury to Tatum. So there's nobody who left. 422 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: It's Cleveland and the Knicks. 423 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: Are We gonna talk about Mike Brown before the end 424 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 5: of the show. 425 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: I gotta yeah, you know what, I want to come back. 426 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 4: We'll talk a little bit about that. We'll touch on 427 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: that a little bit. That's coming up next. 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I know you like to 448 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: go to some of the NBA Summer Got there in Vegas? 449 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 4: You have any plans of going or what not? 450 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 5: This year? To start? What starts his Friday? 451 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 4: It starts, Yeah, no, it starts tomorrow. But they don't play. Yeah, 452 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: they don't play until the tenth I believe. 453 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 6: Oh I think the Vegas one doesn't start till yeah, 454 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 6: probably the tenth. Yeah, they do, like the Utah one 455 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 6: or San Francisco or whatever. 456 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 5: I saw, like Ace Bailey debuts in his hot seconds. 457 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: So I'm dying to see Cooper Flag. I want to 458 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: see what he's gonna do. Any expectations or what. 459 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's gonna be really good, you know, 460 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: I think. 461 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: Oh, gee, wait to go out on the limb there, 462 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: really good. 463 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 5: I think he'll be. I think he'll do. I think 464 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 5: he'll be a solid and now I think he'll be 465 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 5: really good. 466 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 6: I just think that he's just so different than the 467 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 6: normal prospect because he's not a guy that just goes 468 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 6: out and gets forty. 469 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 8: You know. 470 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 6: It's like he again, is a great defender, he's a 471 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 6: great playmaker and so but I think that's the right 472 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 6: team for him. I mean, I think, you know, listen, 473 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 6: I still stand by. I'll just be real. I think 474 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 6: the lottery was rigged. But wow, independent of that, I 475 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 6: think that it is a good landing spot for him 476 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 6: because he's not a guy that just is going to 477 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 6: take over games offensively, and that's obviously not a place 478 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: where he'll have to do that. 479 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: I expect him to average eighteen to twenty points a game. 480 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be something like we have 481 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: never seen in a long long time. I hope, I 482 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: hope he can carry the team a little bit, but 483 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: I'm not sure it's going to help him down there, 484 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: we'll see how good they're gonna be. 485 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 3: I expect the world from him. 486 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that this kid is going to 487 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: be great, and I'll be curious to see how many 488 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: points he's going to be able to put up in 489 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: how many shots he's going to be able to get 490 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 4: his first year, if he's going to, you know, take 491 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: it easy a little bit, you know, back off a 492 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 4: little bit until he feels the game or what's gonna happen. 493 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: But I just love this kid. I'm dying to see 494 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: him play. I can't wait till he plays in the 495 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: Summer League. I'm looking forward to it. 496 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: Now, I think, and I think it'll be fun when 497 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: you know, again, it's hard because the MAVs probably aren't 498 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,199 Speaker 6: going to have their real roster at any point this 499 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 6: year with Kyrie Irving. But I will say, you know, 500 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 6: we were just talking about, you know, Katie with the Rockets. 501 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 6: If Lebron stays with the Lakers, like how many contenders 502 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 6: are there really and where do they all stack up. 503 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: It's like, again, I know Kyrie is not going to 504 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 6: be back this year realistically, at least not anytime early, 505 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 6: but like, if that team is healthy and again You're 506 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: asking Kyrie off a major injury, plus Anthony Davis to 507 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 6: stay healthy. 508 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 5: That team is in the conversation. 509 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 6: I mean Kyrie healthy, Anthony Davis healthy, Daniel Gafford, Cooper fly. 510 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 6: That's a really good team again on the rare instance 511 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 6: when all their parts are healthy. 512 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: You asked me what I thought about Mike Brown being 513 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 4: the head coach of the New York Knicks. 514 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: Isn't it crazy? 515 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: All that build up to, like what the Knicks are 516 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 4: going to do, and they want to get permission now 517 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 4: this team and this coach, and they get denied here. 518 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: I think they were denied five times, unbelievable by five 519 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: different teams out there. They finally hire a coach, they 520 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: get Mike Brown, and. 521 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: Then everything stops. It's like, okay, they got a coach now. 522 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: I said, it's not really that big of a deal 523 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: because the Knicks were still the second favorite to go 524 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: to win the East without a coach. 525 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: Seriously, so how much. 526 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: Of a differences are really going to make? I think 527 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: Mike Brown's going to be a good coach. I think 528 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: he'll do is just as good as a job as Thibodeau did. 529 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: Look no disrespect to Thibodeau and the back to back 530 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: fifty win seasons are tremendous. Should have been in the 531 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 4: NBA Finals this year. But I like Mike Brown nothing. 532 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: He won't move the needles or anything like that, you know, 533 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: even though he learned under Steve Kerr. Also, he's not 534 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 4: Steve Kerr or Phil Jackson. 535 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 3: But I think he's gonna be good. I think it 536 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: was a good higher for the Knicks. 537 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's not a bad like, it's not 538 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 6: a bad hire, but it's just I don't know, man. 539 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 6: I guess it's weird because we've I think you and 540 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: I talked about this last week. But like when they 541 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 6: fired Tips, I was cool with it because I assumed 542 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 6: that there was an obvious you know, that there was 543 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 6: a plan. 544 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: We're gonna go get Mike Malone. 545 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 6: I thought they were gonna go get Dan Hurley to 546 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 6: be perfectly honest, or you know whoever, Jay Wright, and 547 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 6: I guess my only issue is that there was clearly 548 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 6: no plan. 549 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 5: But I also don't think that Mike Brown. 550 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 6: I do think there's like a little bit of revisionist 551 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 6: history on Mike Brown is. Like I think maybe it's 552 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 6: because there's so many Knicks fans and they want it 553 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 6: to work. But people, you know, oh, Mike Brown did 554 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 6: Mike Brown made the finals. Mike Brown made the finals? 555 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 6: What at this point eighteen years ago? Like, come on, 556 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 6: it was two thousand and seven, that's eighteen years ago. Like, 557 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 6: can we chill out with Mike Brown made the finals. Oh, 558 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: he's got to this much win percentage, just like yeah, 559 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 6: it's because he coached Lebron for four years when they 560 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 6: were winning fifty to sixty games every year. It's you know, 561 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 6: it's just it's just frustrating. 562 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 4: You brought you brought up Danny Hurley's name. Sure, do 563 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: you think Danny Hurley would have taken the job had 564 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: he known it was going to be Luka on the team, 565 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: that Lebron was going to be his way forced out 566 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 4: and that was going to be new owners. 567 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 6: So my personal opinion, and I truly believe this, is 568 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 6: that Dan Hurley was never taking the job. 569 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 5: I've said it from. 570 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 4: The Jason was a money grave thing for him. 571 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 6: No, it was, it was twofold. It was a money 572 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 6: grab for him. His deal wasn't getting done the way 573 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 6: that he wanted. And I believe and this goes back 574 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 6: to the Lebron stuff with the Lakers. I think the 575 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 6: Lakers were getting real pushback that they were very clearly 576 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: going to give the job to JJ Redick, And I 577 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: go back to that moment in time, people could say, 578 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 6: what are you talking about, and it's like, you got 579 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 6: to remember the Lakers were about to draft Bronni, Lebron's son. 580 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 6: They fired Darvin Ham after the opening round of the playoffs. 581 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: JJ Redick was asked about the job before the NBA Finals. 582 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 6: He said, I'll address my future after the finals. Well, 583 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 6: if you don't already have the job, there's nothing to address. 584 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 6: And so I think the Lakers were getting real push 585 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 6: they were getting real negative pushback of like, so you 586 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 6: fired this guy two months ago, you clearly are just 587 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 6: gonna hire Lebron's buddy was zero experience, and so I 588 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 6: think it was a scenario where both parties benefited by 589 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 6: going through the interview process. But I don't I don't 590 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 6: believe that he was ever seriously a candidate, and because 591 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: of it, I I don't I don't think he was 592 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 6: ever taking the job. But I don't think he was 593 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 6: ever taking the job because I don't think he was 594 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 6: ever a serious candidate. 595 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: It's too bapis I think he'd given real consideration now 596 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: he should. 597 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 3: How do you know it was going to be Luca 598 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: and no Lebron out there? 599 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: Right? 600 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 601 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 6: I mean listen, you know, I listen. I love Dan Hurley. 602 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 6: I'm a Yukon guy. If you have a chance to 603 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: coach Luca in his prime, if you have aspirations to 604 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 6: coach in the NBA, it's harder to find a scenario 605 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 6: better than taking Luca in the heart of his prime. 606 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 5: But I mean that happened. 607 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: No, it didn't happen, But I thought it was gonna 608 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 4: be close. I I gave it a little bit more 609 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 4: credence than you did, to be honest. 610 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 6: Well, the other thing too, and again, you know Hurley 611 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 6: always talks about, you know, we recruit family, you know, 612 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 6: kind of like what Derek Shelby was saying, we recruit 613 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 6: families with this, with that, And it's like, so you're 614 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 6: gonna come to LA to deal with Lebron and Bronny 615 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 6: and I. And that's the other thing is like, I 616 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 6: I don't think the job remember this was pre Luca, obviously, 617 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 6: I don't think the job was that desirable. For that reason, 618 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 6: you have a forty one, forty years you know, soon 619 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: to be forty year old Lebron at the time. Right, 620 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 6: you have to draft his son, you have to coach 621 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 6: his son as if he's a real NBA player, even 622 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 6: though none of we all know. 623 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 5: That he isn't. And I that's why I think it 624 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: was always gonna be Reddick. Yah. 625 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: I think it was done once. Is Redick in trouble 626 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: with the new owners. Now with new owners, they're I mean, 627 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 4: you're paying a lot of money for the team. You're 628 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 4: gonna want to hire the coach that you want. 629 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 5: And he was handpicked by Lebron. 630 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 6: So it's like if, if, what, Whether you're right that 631 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 6: Lebron isn't there by the end of the by the 632 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 6: start of the season or not, we'll find out. But 633 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: he's Lebron's guy, there's no And here's the other thing. 634 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 6: Don't forget he threw Luca under the bus after the 635 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 6: season ended. Remember that, Oh, we need to get in 636 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 6: championship shape. 637 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 638 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 6: Wow, So it had nothing to do with you playing 639 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 6: the starters the entire second half. It had nothing to 640 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 6: do with you not playing Jackson Hayes Like, it's just like, 641 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 6: I think that's an interesting byproduct of that whole situation 642 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 6: with the Lakers is if Lebron were to leave, JJ 643 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 6: was his guy. I don't think he's Mark Walter's guy 644 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 6: to your pointer, whoever's going to be in charge going forward? 645 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: Oh, I agree with your one hundred percent. Aaron Torres, 646 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 4: Orny Spaniard. We're in for the guys tonight. Let's get 647 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 4: a final check of what's happening out there. We check 648 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 4: it with Steve the saga one final time. 649 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 3: What's going on? The saga? 650 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 5: Hello again? 651 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 9: And you guys are correct that the NBA Vegas Summer 652 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 9: League doesn't start till next week. WNBA was off tonight. 653 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 9: Caitlin Clark will miss a fifth straight game Saturday with 654 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 9: the groin, Andrew with. 655 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 5: By the WNBA, by the way, not playing. 656 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like I said this earlier, like 657 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 6: why was there no National TV baseball game today? Like 658 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 6: Dodgers Astro should have been on national TV. But then also, WNBA, 659 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 6: it's not MLB network. 660 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 9: You're talking about something that people. 661 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 6: Have Fox, ESPN. Yeah, exactly so, and it's the same 662 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: with the WNBA. Everybody's at home. You know, I was 663 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 6: looking for something to watch before I came in in 664 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 6: studio here. 665 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 5: So whatever, I. 666 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 9: Agree to all that in the day I become mission commissioner. 667 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 9: Not only everybody's playing every holiday Memorial Day, July fourth, 668 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 9: but absolutely there's wall to wall TV baseball. 669 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: You know what everybody's watching now is the Savannah Bananas. 670 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 9: That's correct, they'll be on again this weekend. 671 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: Did they saw at football stadiums like eighty thousand football? 672 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: They saw that? 673 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 9: Well, the Clemson Stateium when they're there at Angel Stadium 674 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 9: served for baseball. 675 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: Back to your point on MLB, because I heard this 676 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 6: day it's like, well, everyone's outside for the holiday. It's like, 677 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 6: first of all, people are home by ten pm. But 678 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: now like this is gonna sound like first world situation, 679 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 6: but it's like TV's are so cheap. I know a 680 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 6: lot of people that have TVs on their deck, TVs 681 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 6: on their patio, Like I was obviously not hosting for 682 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 6: Fourth of July. 683 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 5: But you're outside, even not tied to one room. 684 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 6: A yeah, now you have a TV setup while everybody's 685 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 6: outside barbecue. 686 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 9: And by the watch live games on the phone, which 687 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 9: of course great carrying around. 688 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I what you said wal to wall Baseball, 689 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 6: I said it earlier today on my my Twitter feed, 690 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 6: I was like NBA or NFL owns Thanksgiving. Christmas Day 691 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 6: obviously is now split between. But it's like college football. 692 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 9: Already. 693 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, but July fourth America America's pastime. 694 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 9: Baseball apple pie? 695 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 5: Yes, why are they not games on Walt Wall when 696 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: you're commissioner, Steve to sing. 697 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 9: And also the Sunday night baseball ratings have been quite good, 698 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 9: like the best in years this year. 699 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: This would have been in just punting on that book. 700 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 9: You know, theoretically they're getting back to talking that they 701 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 9: haven't actually said a follow goodbye because MLB hasn't signed 702 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 9: up anybody else to take over the games that ESPN. 703 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 4: Nobody else wanted it exactly, not. 704 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 5: At that price. 705 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 9: They didn't back down because they thought, my goodness, why 706 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 9: are we paying this so much? When Roku is paying 707 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 9: for Sunday mornings this much or Apple on Friday nights 708 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 9: that much? And so ESPN you can't again, when I 709 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 9: would be a commissioner, you can't say no to a 710 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 9: widespread network like that for your sport. Because the NHL 711 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 9: disappeared in most parts of the country when they got 712 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 9: off that channel. Well, Wimbledon will continue for the weekend, 713 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 9: and Carlos Alcarez is still alive. He advanced to the 714 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 9: fourth round today, as did number five Taylor Fritz of 715 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 9: the US women's number one Arena Sablenca one. A reminder, 716 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 9: US men's soccer plays the Gold Cup Finals Sunday against 717 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 9: Mexico on Fox TV from Houston at the FIFA Club 718 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 9: World Cup Quarterfinals. Saturday's matchups include Paris and German against 719 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 9: Bayern Munich. Tonight in Philadelphia, Chelsea was a two to 720 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 9: one winner over Brazil's Palmierras on an own goal late, 721 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 9: and Fox has the Women's Euros Germany shut out Poland 722 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 9: too nothing today. This Championships tournament started Wednesday Saturday on 723 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 9: Fox TV at the Women's Euros England against France. To baseball, 724 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 9: Houston won eighteen to one in LA for the Dodgers 725 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 9: biggest blowout loss ever at Dodgers Stadium. But they just 726 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 9: left the pitchers that you've never heard under way in 727 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 9: there and therefore eighteen to one and relief. Noah Davis, 728 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 9: for example, allowed ten runs in the six. Kansas City's 729 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 9: Vinnie Pasquentino with two homer six RBIs in a nine 730 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 9: to three win at Arizona. A's beat the Giants eleven 731 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 9: to two in Sacramento. The loss to Justin Verlander o 732 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 9: and six Detroit st Cleveland to an eight straight loss 733 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 9: two to one. Baltimore won three to two at Atlanta 734 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 9: behind Charlie Morton. White Sox at Colorado all weekend. I'll pause, 735 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 9: Well you say I'm not going three to two? The 736 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 9: White Sox were winners tonight, losing pitcher Antonio Senzatela is 737 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 9: three and twelve. Yankees have lost five straight, beaten by 738 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 9: the Mets six five today, Cubs eleven three over Saint Louis. 739 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 9: Eight home runs for the Cubs at Wrigley today a 740 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 9: franchise record in fact, all told, in the majors, there 741 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 9: were forty eight home runs today, the second most on 742 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 9: any single July the fourth Wow. Two of those long 743 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 9: balls from Seattle's cal Rawley in a six nothing win 744 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 9: against Pittsburgh. Cal Rawley has thirty five home runs this season. 745 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: Back to you, all. 746 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: Right, thank you, Steve, Have a good night. 747 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: My friend will see you tomorrow. You're gonna work tomorrow? 748 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: What sir? 749 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 5: All right? 750 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: I knew I scheduled yourself. It sounds like you did. 751 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will see you tomorrow. Let's get to some Twitter. 752 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: This is what you said, Aaron Jason b diving rights, 753 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: Bob Manford and MLB could own July fourth, But why 754 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: would you want to do that when you could have 755 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 4: the dog diving? It was literally what was on and 756 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: the hot dog eating contest. Because I have the world problems, 757 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: I understand, but frustrating. 758 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 6: So because somebody said they were like because somebody tweeted 759 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 6: at me, because I tweeted out like why is mlbnine? 760 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 6: Somebody is like, no one's in front of the TV 761 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 6: July fourth, And I'm like, I guarantee what and oh, 762 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 6: Baseball's on Nashable and I go, I guarantee whatever game 763 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 6: they put on would do it better rating than the 764 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 6: dog Olympics that were on. 765 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 4: So they had Wimbledon on, where people watching Wimbledon at all? 766 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: I think I'm decent. 767 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 5: I just know. Seventh, I was sitting at home. 768 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 6: I got home from what I was doing today seven 769 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 6: thirty eastern The Dog Dogs Jumping into Water was on 770 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 6: ESPN and ESPN two had some like documentary series about 771 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 6: Alabama football, and it's like, right, I knew they had. 772 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 6: Can we just can we get that Dodgers Astros game on. 773 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying it because I live in LA, 774 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 6: but yeah, give us that. 775 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean, not even one game. You thought they'd have 776 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 4: at least one game. They everything was on MLB or 777 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 4: Apple TV or something like that. 778 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and that was the other people like, well it's MLB, 779 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 6: they have games on MLBtv. 780 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 5: Well guess what. I don't have MLBtv. So does mean 781 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:46,959 Speaker 5: no good? 782 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: You don't have MLB TV. 783 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 6: You know, I cut back the cable package for the summer. 784 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 6: I regret it. I'll get well, you know, once we 785 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 6: get a get closer to football, when I need red zone, 786 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 6: I'll ramp back up. 787 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 4: So, yeah, you gotta every day you have to have 788 00:34:59,440 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: red zone. 789 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: It's impossible. 790 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't watch football without the red zone. 791 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 5: There's no king else. Crazy huh. 792 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: All right, we'll come back. We'll wrap things up. 793 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 4: One final segment to go before we took it over 794 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 4: to Chris Plank. That's coming up next right here on 795 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: Fox Sports or Radio. 796 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 797 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 798 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 799 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 3: Everybody Hates Me? 800 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 4: Tarees Why everybody's Plank's mad at me because I was 801 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: texting him earlier today, going, hey, did you hear our interview? 802 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 4: You better use a cut or two. He goes, I'm 803 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: taking a nap and I just kept and I just 804 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: kept I just kept tweeting him, and he goes, oh, 805 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 4: I could see you disregarded my part of I'm taking 806 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: a nap and I just kept tweeting him. So he's 807 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 4: and Mary's mad at me. Mary, Yeah, because I complimented 808 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 4: her or something. 809 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 5: He's a damn line. He's lying really bad. 810 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: I just said, I go, you're going to club Bounce afterwards? 811 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 3: Never in my life. Yeah, because cub Bounce. 812 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 4: I just asked her if she was going, and she's 813 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 4: got all that club it's for plus size women. 814 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 815 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 4: But I didn't mean she was plus size. I meant 816 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: something else. 817 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 3: Oh, I could agree there. 818 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 5: It is Mary Mackett, if it makes you feel better. 819 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 6: Literally last episode, he's like, yeah, Tours, you've really put 820 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 6: on some weight since the that since I started working 821 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 6: with you. 822 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 5: Like, if I put on weight. 823 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: What are you? 824 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Dude? 825 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: I look good? 826 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: I look good. 827 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 7: I I It took everything in me to restrain myself 828 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 7: from asking him out you. 829 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 5: Should have cursed him out. 830 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 4: I was being nice, barely, barely. This This is the 831 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: best I can do, all right. I want to get 832 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: to a couple of things before we do get out 833 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 4: of here. Uh sixty sixty eight? Try eighty six years ago? 834 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, eighty six years ago, wa wasting radio? 835 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 4: When I was hosting radio July fourth, Right, July fourth, 836 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty nine, one of the most famous speeches in 837 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 4: all of Major League Baseball was on that date. 838 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 3: Here it is right now, by Lou Garrick. 839 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 8: For the past two weeks, you've been reading about a 840 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 8: bad break today. I consider myself the luckiest man on 841 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 8: the face of the earth. That i might have been 842 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 8: given a bad break, but I've got an awful lot 843 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 8: to live for, thank you. 844 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: How many still resonates to this day? 845 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: Does it matter what aeron? 846 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely? How many years ago do you say? 847 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: It was eighty six years ago today and we. 848 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 5: Still haven't found a cure for lu Gerrig's disease? 849 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: Kind of se Nope, nope, we have not. 850 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 4: Eighty six years ago, July fourth, nineteen thirty nine, and 851 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 4: he never did play again after that after that speech. 852 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 5: Now died shortly thereafter. I believe right. 853 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,280 Speaker 3: Right, right, So sad. I'm very sad. 854 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 4: So I just figure had to play that because it 855 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 4: was on this day, so many, so many. 856 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: Years ago, years old. Wow. 857 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 4: Usually we don't talk about the ninth best player in 858 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: the w NBA or just be the ninth best player 859 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 4: in her position. What did you think of that when 860 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: you saw Caitlyn Clark and I heard people trying to 861 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 4: make excuses, Well, they only did the top four and 862 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: after the top four, blah blah blah. 863 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 3: The whole thing is ridiculous. 864 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 4: I still can't believe the hatred and the vitriol toward 865 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 4: Caate and Clark. It's it's mind boggling, to be honest 866 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 4: with you. 867 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 6: It is what I find interesting. We talked about it 868 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 6: with Dan Byer yesterday. Sophie Cunningham just by literally being 869 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 6: nice to Caitlin Clark is now the second most popular player. 870 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 8: I know. 871 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: That's awesome. I love that. 872 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 6: It's like all it took was somebody just being like, oh, 873 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 6: she's kind of cool, I'm gonna have her back, like 874 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 6: and you know, like I'm not trying to do like 875 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 6: the guy girl thing. 876 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 5: But you know, we all know, like you know, Michael. 877 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 6: Jordan had Charles Oakley, and you know Steph has Draymond 878 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 6: and it's like no one, like literally, no one stood 879 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 6: up for her for eighteen months, not a coach, not 880 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 6: a teammate, not the league. 881 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 5: It's a disaster. By the way, did you see Kaylyn 882 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 5: Clark call out the commissioner the other night by name? 883 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 5: Did you see that? 884 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 4: No? 885 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 3: I did not see that. 886 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 5: So I'll try to make this as quick as I 887 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 5: can't go. 888 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 6: They have something called like the WNBA Cup or the 889 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 6: Commissioner's Cup or something like that. It's like the n 890 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 6: season tournament for them. Indiana won it. 891 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 5: They were doing a live stream from the locker room afterward, 892 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 5: and apparently they make more money somehow from winning this 893 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 5: event than they do their whole salary combined or something. 894 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 5: And Kayln Clark was just like, how do we make 895 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 5: more money from this than the whole season? 896 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 6: And she literally goes Kathy. The commissioner's name is Kathy Engelberg. Kathy, 897 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 6: can you help us out or Kathy do something? And 898 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 6: I was like, I think Kayler Clark just called out 899 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 6: the commissioner. Like I think Kayler Clark is bigger than 900 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 6: the commissioner. I think she's she's trying to get the 901 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 6: commissioner booted. 902 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 4: But that's I'm a little sick and tired of the 903 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 4: whole Can we get more money? 904 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 5: All right? 905 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 4: For a league that's lost millions over the last twenty 906 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: five years. 907 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 3: Enough is enough? 908 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 5: Oh and you know what else? 909 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 6: We don't need another meme of uh Cooper flag salary 910 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 6: compared to the first pick. 911 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 5: Yes, because one league makes money and one league doesn't. 912 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 5: That is why one makes all. 913 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 4: We gotta wrap things up. I want to thank you 914 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 4: for show. First of all, great show, real quick. Thanks 915 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 4: to Mary doing a great job. Share our producer Ian 916 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 4: was in for the first half that people didn't think 917 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 4: I knew that. Thanks to the Sager. Thanks to Jason 918 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: and Mike for letting this fill in. Thanks to you 919 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 4: Torres always appreciated. Chris Plank coming up next. He'll probably 920 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 4: be a little cranky. That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.