WEBVTT - Confronting Cop City at the Ballot Box 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:05.480 What's up. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:06.960 Family, it's your girl to Mika d. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.920 Mallory and it's your boy, my son and general. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.360 We are your host of street politicians, the place where 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:15.120 the streets and politics me. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:16.320 What's something nice? 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:16.919 How you doing it? 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.320 Oh, I'm blessed? How you favored on this blessed Tuesday. 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.520 I haven't made a few of latest today. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:26.680 Yes you are latest. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:32.520 My apologies, my apologies. Well, it is a blessed day. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:35.400 Every day is a blessed day. 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.400 I'll tell you so much stuff that's happening in the 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:41.279 world that every day you have to acknowledge that you 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:42.040 are still. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.800 Here because because you could not be. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.680 There's a lot of things going on, I tell you. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:53.360 But we got a I'm late, and we have a 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.760 good show, good guests coming up who I'm sure wants 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:03.600 to get into some very specific conversation around the politics 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:05.800 and our nation. And you know, I think you know 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.640 one of the things that's important on Sundays. We have 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.200 started obviously you weren't able to do it on this 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.360 past Sunday, but we've started a new thing where were 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:19.080 going live to cover different issues and give people opportunity 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.840 to talk about stuff happening in their communities, things they 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.880 care about. Issues that's happening because on the show, we 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.679 generally get, you know, just the one guest in and 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.600 maybe we can talk about some issues, but due to timing, 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.800 as we know, it always sort of you know, and 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.520 also the final edits and all of that stuff, people 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.160 get to hear just a portion of what we've discussed 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.000 and or we only present a portion. And so I 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:50.360 think the Lives that we are now doing on Sundays 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.080 is going to help us to give more space to 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.920 more people, a wide array of folks to come on 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.720 and talk from different perspectives. And the reason why I 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.400 thought of that as it relates to our guests today 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.400 is because sometimes we don't agree, or we often have 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.840 you know, we have different perspectives. I wouldn't say we 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:13.760 don't agree, because we agree on a lot of things, 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.040 but we have different perspectives. And on the Live this week, 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.400 I had Tony lindsay on, who's one of my Facebook 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.680 friends who's now become our guide that comes to our 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.160 events and whatnot. And Tony and I often have debates 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.200 about a lot of different issues. And I think what's 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.799 important is that so many people think we only talk 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.920 to folks that we know you only talk to people 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.960 who say yes, yes, man, and it's not true. Every 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.400 day we're in conversation with people, including you and I, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.720 debating issues back and forth. So I'm excited to hear 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.799 what will happen and therefore we will have to move along. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:52.760 You know, I definitely I am excited to hear what 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.119 the guest has to say. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.560 You know, it's so much going on, like you said 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.000 over the weekend, you know, I want to say Hapy birthday. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.040 It's two of my close friends, my boy HARRYO and 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.960 my boy Shelby, you know, Virbal and my sister. We 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.960 make sure I don't forget that birthday September tenth, so 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.359 you know, went and celebrated him. And then you know, 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.760 when you when you're just around family and friends, it 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.000 just reflects, like you said, we got to be happy 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.160 that we're still here because everybody didn't make it here, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.200 you know. So it's so many different things that go 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.640 on in our community, so many different you know, fights, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.760 and we can't have all the fights. I tell people 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.560 all the time, I can't be involved in every flight. 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.760 I come to my page, I go to Instagram and 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.400 oh you ain't talking about this. I don't even know 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.800 about that. I didn't choose not to talk about it. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.080 Sometimes I just don't know, you know, So I just 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:43.840 I just advise. 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.480 It's okay to say I don't even I don't. I 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.600 don't want to talk about this. It might even be triggering. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.400 You could actually say this that I can't handle. 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.840 A pick and choose shit, is correct. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.760 I do pick, and I picked and choose things that 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.480 I'm passionate about. I pick and choose things that I 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.800 feel that I know about, you know. I choose things 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:04.640 that I want. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:06.960 To fight for. I don't have to fight or speak 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:09.120 on things that you want me to speak on. I'm 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.040 not a puppet. You don't got your hand in the 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:11.960 back going like this, Yo. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.360 You need to talk about this, and why you I 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.839 talk about the things that I feel best suited to 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.440 talk about things I fight for, things that I know 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.719 that I'm willing to fight to from tooth to nail 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:27.480 about you. So, if I don't think that that's something 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.159 that I'm going to get on and really fight for it, 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:31.720 and I'm just doing it because you know. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.640 The people say to do it, then I'm not going. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.080 To do it. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.120 And people, well, but you know, I think it's a 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.120 way that the people can come to you. One of 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.480 the things that happened in the live is that I 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:47.000 posted I'm going live. You can disagree, you can disagree, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.000 but you can't come here being rude and disrespectful, right, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.440 And so I think that's one of the problems. It's 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.839 not to say from my perspective that just because someone 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.200 asked me to get involved in something or they tell 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.120 me to look at it, that I'm not going to 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.120 do it, or I don't want to do it or whatever. 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.839 It's more so that I know what I have the 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.760 capacity to handle. And when I was younger in this movement, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.760 I tried to do everything, and then a lot of 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.800 stuff either was undone and or you know, I wasn't 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.000 necessarily proud of the effort that I was able to 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.480 put into it. That's just the way it is. And 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.640 oftentimes there are things that's going on in the background 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.640 that people have no idea about. So there are people 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.880 who are like, well, why didn't you come to the 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.480 aid of so and so person or do such such thing, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.800 or why are you not saying anything about that? And 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.640 they have no idea that perhaps we've already talked to 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.240 those people. We already know them, We've engaged with them, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.800 could have decided with them. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.080 That you're going to stay away from it. 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.080 Maybe people don't even like you, maybe you don't like them, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:47.279 Maybe there's conflict. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.200 You don't know all the time. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.599 And because of the fact that we're not trying to 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.120 be messy and there's so much other. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.400 Work going on, then we may not explain it. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:57.600 Yeah, pretty much. Man. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:02.720 It's so many underling facts that go into the work 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.440 that we do. And you know, and then I understand that, 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.600 like you said, there are no leaders who are above critique, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.200 and I understand that, but you know, disrespect and critique 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:16.039 and assumption is so so different. People just think that 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.640 because you have a public profile that they can just 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.560 say whatever they want to you, and that I'm not. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.000 I don't believe in that. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:26.720 So you're gonna have to deal with me with a 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.240 level of respect. It's like you said, we can have 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.320 we can have discourse, we can disagree, but we ain't 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:33.360 gonna have disrespect. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:35.119 This is true. 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.320 So speaking of disrespect, I feel that the people of 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.920 Atlanta are being disrespected, which is why we're wearing our 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.960 stop Coop City shirts today, you know, for folks who 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.479 don't understand or don't know, because I did see some 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.760 people in the comments yesterday who were like, excuse me, 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.800 I want to support the cause, but I don't know 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.920 what it is, and I was posting a lot about it. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.680 Of course, a lot of people were so in Atlanta, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:03.280 Georgia and Fulton County, which is which happens to be 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:07.160 the same district I don't know what they call it, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.280 in the same area where Fanny Williams, the same woman 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.280 who has both young Thug and a bunch of other 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:20.080 folks under Rico charges and Donald Trump charged with under. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.040 Rico the Rico law. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:29.480 So Fanny also has the Arico charges against protesters in Atlanta, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.800 Georgia for their efforts to stop cop City from being 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:39.440 built in Fulton County. Now, as we know, Fulton County 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:44.680 is primarily a black county, right primarily at least it 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.400 was the foundation. I'm sure gentrification continues, other people are 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.120 moving in, but Fulton County is a place. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.120 That is well known to the black community. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:58.440 Now, we all understand very clearly that we've been fighting 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:04.520 against additional police budgets for training and whatever because we 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:08.160 do not believe that the current system can just be 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:13.120 trained better. It has to be torn apart and rebuilt, 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.800 because we believe. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:17.880 That whatever money you're already given them, it should be 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.360 allocated to that. If you're going to do it, then 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.240 allocate that to it. Don't give more money away from 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.600 resources from the community. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:29.080 Absolutely, I know I've said this many times. When I 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.280 am in Georgia. In Atlanta, you know, we go around 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.640 our people. That's what we love. We go to the hood, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.280 We eat the restaurants in the hood. We always as 0:08:37.280 --> 0:08:38.920 soon as we get to a city, we like take 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.920 us to where the community stuff is. We want whatever 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.480 the If it's rigs, we want, Well you don't want 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.079 the ribs, but I will. If it's rigs, we want 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:47.800 to go to the ribs. 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:48.880 By this fish. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.680 We want to go to the local seafood spot. That's 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.280 what we do. But I can say that when I 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.000 am in Atlanta and I am there, often I feel 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.960 a little more uncomfortable with some of the folks in 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:06.880 the unhoused community that are absolutely suffering with severe mental 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:13.440 mental health issues. Right because it is very clear. So 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.800 when you have a budget of multi multi, multi, multi, multi, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.360 millions of dollars. Now they claim they found some more 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.880 money that's going towards this project that they didn't know 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:28.280 in the city council that that had been allocated. All 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:33.240 of this money going to building a police facility or 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.920 a facility that will train police officers. And then they'll say, yeah, no, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:41.319 it's not just police officers, other essential workers too, sure, firefighters, 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:47.440 the police and others. Right, other first responders will be 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:52.679 trained in this facility they're building this place. And again 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.440 they say they try to make it that it's a 0:09:55.559 --> 0:10:00.960 very balanced atmosphere. We're training for all these these different groups. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.640 But what they don't like to talk about often, and 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.240 which you have to read define print to find out, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:12.440 is that one of the training pieces for police is 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.440 one that cops will be coming from all over the 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.520 country and they will be trained by the. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.400 Israel Defense Military. The Israel Defense Military. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.080 Now, these are the people, the same people that we 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.880 as American tax face as folks be like, why should 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.599 I care about that. I ain't stutting the people in Palestine. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.320 I'm worried about folks that's on my block. I don't 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:36.040 agree with that. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.000 But even if you take that position, your tax payer 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:41.480 dollars is going to it. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:46.560 The ten billion dollars that we send to Palestine, which 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.120 is our tax pay I mean, excuse me, to Israel, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:56.079 which to Israel, for Israel to fight against the Palestinians, 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.840 and in my judgment, for there to be some. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.880 Peopleeople who are there, not all Jews, not all. 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.320 We're talking about the state of Israel to be there 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:11.480 and oppress the Palestinian people, and we paid for it. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.360 It's already a slap in the face. And we were 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.400 there and saw with our own eyes what the Israeli 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.800 defense military does. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.720 We saw it, We know what they do. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.880 They wouldn't even let us walk around in the communities 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:30.800 without showing our identification to prove that we were Americans, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.760 because in different places, the Palestinians on their own land 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:41.040 are unable to move around free. And at many different 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.520 times any given day you'll see Palestinian groups. 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:45.319 And other allies. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.560 Sean King, of course, Lindas saw a posting that the 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.800 military there has killed a number of people, including children. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.120 They will be running some of the training at this 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.920 facility in Georgia. Why we need that, I don't know. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.600 So the organizers in Georgia, we don't need it. We 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.600 don't need more money going to training because officers are 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:14.319 trained and their budgets are the most exploded budget budgets 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:18.920 of most agencies in any city, so they have money. So, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.439 like you said, reallocate the resources if you feel that 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.320 the current resources, if you feel they need some additional training. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.880 But their training works in other communities. They're training generally 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.480 keeps them from being hostile and killing unarmed and or 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.560 people in other communities who are even dangerous. They know 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.400 how to do that, and they do it very well. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.000 When they come into our communities, it is a total 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.400 different attitude. And I know for sure that the current 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.320 mayor of Atlanta and others have acknowledged the level of 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.559 police abuse. So their thing is, oh, well, we're going 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:00.960 to train them. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.679 We don't need training. What we need is the unhoused 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:04.840 people off the streets. 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.200 We need more to get rid of food deserts so 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.280 people have actual healthy food that they can eat in 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.280 their communities. We need housing that people can afford. We 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.320 need education. That's what we need. Because the better the 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.920 community is doing, the least you will need police officers 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.800 in those communities. And so that's our position and we 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.120 definitely don't need an outside military agency coming into our 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.559 country training police officers who are already too militarized, who 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.720 are already using too much force when dealing with our people, 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:38.839 and it's going to be. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.600 Located in the community where our people live. It's too much. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.400 So so the Stock Cops City campaign shout out to 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.360 Queen and Nasaha and a number of other folks, Attorney 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.800 Jail Griggs from the NAACP, and a number of others 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.840 who are there on the ground and have been working 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.960 for Oh now, it's been going on a long time. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.200 I don't know exactly the date. To stop this from happening. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.440 They have reco charges against protesters who went into the area. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:12.040 They're mainly environmental protesters who went into the area where 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.920 this facility will be built, that is in the forest. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.560 They'll have to cut down trees. It's all types of 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:22.640 environmental implications. And for people who have an issue in 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.480 saying things like oh, well that's white folks, that's not 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.160 black folks. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.840 It's called intersectionality. 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:30.240 That's what it's called. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.040 So there's so much happening. We want you guys to 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:34.680 check it out. 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.280 All the people want is for a referendum to be 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.680 on the ballot so they can have the people of Georgia, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.600 the people of Atlanta vote on whether they want this 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.560 facility in their community, and the city is doing everything 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.200 they can to stop and block those individuals from being 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.120 able to get that referendum. 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.080 On the ballot. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:57.960 Crazy, it's really it's mom biggling to me how you 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.760 know how, I don't know? 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.400 Why is my boggling? Because they get it. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.760 They realize that over policing doesn't work, you know, they 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.720 realize that that in the communities where crime is less, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.240 poverty is less. Right, they realize what actually can stop 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.160 crime and cut down. 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.160 The need for police. But they won't do that. 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:22.240 They'll continue to fund, you know, the response instead of 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.480 being proactive. Right, your response, because the police are not 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.200 stopping crimes in communities, they're arresting people who commit the crimes. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:29.840 So if you. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:32.360 Really want to stop something, you want to make community safer, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.640 then you would make the community flourish. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.000 Right, you would give the resources in the community. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.640 You would make sure that the millions of dollars that 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.360 you want to keep alakan to build the new cities, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.520 build some new you know, playgrounds and communities build some 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.960 you know, community centers in the communities where the violences happen, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.400 and build the resources and and you know, have courses 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.560 and have educational things that the kids actually want to learn, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:16:00.000 that that it's culturally relevant, that they can figure out 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.400 how they can keep themselves out of trouble and they 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:06.320 can actually be financially stable and create create generational wealth. 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:07.640 They don't want to create those things. 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.480 They just want to keep giving communities of color and 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:15.720 you know, disenfranchised community police instead of enfranchising those communities. So, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.120 you know, I was saying, it's mind blogging, but I 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.920 get it. That's a part of capitalism, right, It's what 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:25.520 capitalism needs. In order for capitalism to continue to function properly, 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:30.720 there has to be a class where criminality and you know, violencing, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.080 all those things happen because you have to feed in 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.080 order for the top two and five percent to continue 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:39.080 to get rich, you need the bottom people that you 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.360 feed off. Right, these are the people that you continue 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.960 to make your money off. So you know, I understand 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:45.880 that they're gonna invest in prisons, They're going to invest 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.360 in the police to do this. They're gonna invest in 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.800 every stock possible that's going to show that our communities 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.480 are the worse and continue to invest in those things. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.120 And that's why they're going to continue to make. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.200 Sure that our communities look like they do so they 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.360 can have some that invested in. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:02.760 And get rich off. Yeah. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.160 And the thing is, I'm sure that they are black 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.359 elected officials because the entire city, not the entire city council, 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:11.800 but many of the black electors. There are some who 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.000 are speaking out against it, but many of the black 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.000 elected officials and a lot of the influences, whether they 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.200 be pastors, whether they be celebrities or whatever, have either 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.719 said nothing or who have actually been a part of this. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.280 They would argue with you that what are you talking about. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.439 I don't want to keep my community down. I'm sure 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.040 the current mayor would say, I don't want to keep 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.280 my community down. What do you mean, I'm here to 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.119 empower my community. No, but what you're doing is you 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:41.000 are being used as a tool of white supremacy. We're 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:44.240 not saying that you're the one that has designed this 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.199 to keep our people down. What we're saying is that 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.560 whatever they offered you, or whatever you think you gain 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:54.119 by working with the other side or working with the 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:58.639 current governor who has racist tendencies as well. He is 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:03.119 he actually he actually is like Governor Kemp is like 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:08.359 a quiet Ron DeSantis. It's not as blatant. And sometimes 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:12.240 he makes moves that you don't really know whether or 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.040 you can look at it and say, well, that was good, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:15.840 Like the thing he did with the Trump piece the 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.600 other week when he was like, nah, I ain't getting 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.800 in that there's gonna be a trial here and I'm 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:27.159 not doing anything to stop it from happening or to 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.920 get involved in obstructing justice. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:30.720 That was good. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.240 That makes some people go, oh, okay, yeah, it's a 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.000 good move. And because he's actually very strategic, but it 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.919 doesn't mean that he's not also putting forth racist policies 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.440 in the State of Georgia. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:46.119 And this is one of those policies. 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.840 And there are black people who are being used as 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.320 a tool to help get it done. And so it 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.840 is really really really really really sad. Now let's move 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.840 on to and we're gonna be with our people basically 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.480 on this issue period on to the wheels fall off. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.360 We're gonna be with our people. They got their petition signed. 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.040 Now there's a fight to get the petitions validated. And counting, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.800 so there's always gonna be something. But the people, regardless 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.520 of whether they had help from the top celebrities. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:15.320 A shout out to. 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.240 Ernie's King, Doctor Vernie's King, because she certainly has been 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.800 saying since the beginning to stop cop City, and so, 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.880 you know, and and whoever else didn't help them doesn't matter, because. 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.480 The people are learning that they must hope themselves. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.480 But speaking of other things, that's sad, and it's you know, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.639 a little I guess. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.040 I guess because of the fact. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.400 That today we are, you know, getting ready to bring 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.639 on our guests out kind to weave it into my 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:44.560 thought of the day. 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:49.359 But I think people are pretty miserable that they even 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:49.879 care to know. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:55.560 Like, there is literally no one's life that I care 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.560 about so much that I want to go unless there 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:04.760 is some type of physical harm, like physical harm, or 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:09.920 some type of implication for the work that we are 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:15.639 doing in terms of racial justice. Other than that, I 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:20.719 do not really care about what is happening in people's lives. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.880 I might see something and laugh about it and say 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.240 something to my best friends and talk to he he, 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.160 But to go and try to make a platform of 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:34.600 exposing people and this and that I just don't to me, 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:39.080 I don't get it. It says something about you as 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.760 a human. I think if that's where you focus your time. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.640 And I think this situation with Steve Harvey and his family, 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:49.680 Marjorie Harvey and all of it is pretty sad. 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:51.000 It really is. 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:57.560 One not so much because of the blogs and these 0:20:57.600 --> 0:21:00.480 gossipers talking about his marriage, because I I guess one 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:02.520 would say, when you put yourself out there is this 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:03.639 fabulous couple. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.320 Whatever, people are going to inquire. 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:08.720 I still don't think they should inquire to the point 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.320 where they want to drag you up and down and 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.520 put out things. And some of the shit don't even 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.840 be true. That's the part that's really crazy, like making 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:22.760 up things. But I thought that the Strawberry Miss Strawberry, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.879 and that situation that came out in the last couple 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:32.520 of days, it's pretty sad because one everybody that works 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.240 with somebody, I don't care who you are, you could 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:40.000 be the people who are the best, the closest of friends. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:45.520 Look at us, me, you, Angelo and Linda are Angelo, you, Angelo, Linda, 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:46.119 You and me. 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:46.840 There we go. 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.840 We all are super tight. We are a family. 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.600 But nobody here can say the four of us would 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:57.480 be lying if we said that in talking to our 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:01.359 significant other and or our best see or whomever. We 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.119 don't say Mashan gets on my nerves. He's all he never, 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.560 you know, reads the text messages. You know, he asks 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.640 like we beneath him that he don't have to read 0:22:10.680 --> 0:22:11.360 text messages. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.680 And I'm not gonna keep on telling them such and such. 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:16.240 No, you can't sit there and tell me that Linda 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.480 hasn't said, oh my God to Meika's calling me, she's 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.040 calling me. She could do this herself, like she's always 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:23.240 asking me to do. You know, this is what we 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:27.879 do right as humans. You go today, you might have 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.760 had a terrible day at work and you got some 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.080 shit to say, and you might really feel like, oh, 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:33.680 so and so. 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.560 Husband don't really like me or whatever. 0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:40.000 Before that shit, the conversations with her husband to be 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:43.240 leaked for somebody to make some money off of, like 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:47.000 taking their personal business. You are a miserable son of 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.040 a bitch, Like seriously, no, for real, And. 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.080 That's what we are. We people love to enjoy somebody 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.159 else's misery. Like you know what I'm saying. People are 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.199 they wallow in it? 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.240 You know, they They love to see somebody else going 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:02.600 through some bullshit. 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:03.840 And they want to enjoy it. 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.679 They want to say, this's good for you, this and 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.720 that negativity is at an all time high, you know. 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.520 Like you said, those conversations that that women had with 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:16.119 her husband, those are personal conversations. The the miserable, motherfucking 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:19.919 person in that jail though, who was who was getting paid? 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.199 Just think about it. There's somebody who's being paid in 0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:27.240 a jail, you know, to probably because all of those 0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.000 calls are monitored. They're monitoring to make sure there's no 0:23:30.080 --> 0:23:34.080 criminal activity going on in those calls, and keeping those calls, 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.440 you know, on a record just in case they need 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.679 to be pulled up for something that proclaimed to justice 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:43.800 and you know the law. But for somebody who's in 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:48.800 the position of that to violate somebody's personal you know, 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.320 conversation and leak it to the world, like how the 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.399 fuck do y'all, how do y'all be okay for a 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:54.320 couple of dollars? 0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.040 Like it's crazy, It is really crazy. 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.960 That's that we put people in those traditions, And based 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.359 on that call and based on the way it was leaked, 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.000 there has to be more provisions to protect someone else's 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:09.040 you know, privacy, and in prison, even though you are prisoner, 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.280 you still have rights a human being rights, you know 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:14.240 what I'm saying people should not violate if you if 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.600 you are not outside, once you're being incarcerated and you're 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.359 in prison, you are serving your sensors from the crime 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.080 you did, right, and you are serving your senses and 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.719 within that crime, people can't commit crimes against you and 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:28.440 justify them just because at. 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.720 Time within that time with that crime. 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:34.840 Yeah, within that crime you with that time, within that time. 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:38.600 Yeah, because you keep saying within that crime, people can't 0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:39.920 commit crimes against you. 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:41.200 But I think what you're saying. 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.720 While you're serving the time for that crime, right, people 0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:47.040 against you. And it's just like that and that's a crime. 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.080 And I really think that people need to look into 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.040 that this situation. People need to find out exactly what 0:24:53.119 --> 0:24:56.040 it is to trace who was on that call, who 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.840 take that call, you know, who had access to that call, 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.520 and everybody had any access to that call needs to 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.960 be held responsible until we find out what happened. 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.320 Because this ship is fucked up. It's really. 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.480 He's a family like you know, you could just tell 0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.679 that I was listening to her statement, and you know 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:14.199 I heard us. 0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:15.720 She was like, you know, I said what I said, 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.040 but you know it was no way to harm. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:21.159 I didn't think the conversation, but you know that's how 0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.919 I felt, you know, and I love Steve and and 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.320 you know I have respect for their family, but I 0:25:27.320 --> 0:25:29.240 felt like that at the time. And I never thought 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.200 that that conversation is just so ugly because now these 0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:36.320 people were working together in a family structure, right. 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.800 And it's worse because the world has it right. 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.359 It's not like it's an internal situation like he was 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.399 saying that we used to dealing with our situation in 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.199 turn that we don't go out and talk with the 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:48.640 world has said it, you know. 0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:51.359 So now the weight of the. 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:55.439 World's opinions exactly, you know, constantly weigh on you. So 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.160 and I hope they're able to weather the storm as 0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.000 just a family because you know, those people who work together, 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:06.560 knowing Steve and being around Steve and knowing this his team, 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:09.840 you know, they're real tight knit and there's a family 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:10.719 structure over there. 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.040 So I hope, you know. 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.800 That this doesn't completely damage and they're able to salvage 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.520 that and be able to move on because you know, 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.120 it's just a messed up situation. 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.120 Everything that people think about you, you don't need to know. 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:27.640 Sometimes you just don't need to know that your mother 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.159 is like, I can't stand that, damn little girl. Sometimes 0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.359 like you just don't need to hear that, which is 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:35.439 why she might say it to your father in the 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.040 car when you close the door. But she's not gonna 0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.800 say it while you're standing right there. You're not gonna 0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.520 hear your cousin talking to your other cousin about how 0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:47.199 to chick thinks she all that every time she come 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:48.680 around here, she's talking about what she had. 0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.400 It's not necessary. You don't need to know. 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.879 Everything about people's opinions about you. And like you said, 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:59.040 when the world gets involved, it starts to impact your ego, 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.920 because that's all it is, it's your ego. Because even 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:06.280 if you felt like, even if Marjorie Harvey felt like, 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:09.920 I don't think sister Strawberry, I can't even I don't 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:10.560 even know her name. 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.000 I'm sorry, I can't. It slipped me right now. 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:16.080 But even if you thought she don't really like me, 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.680 I don't, we don't, we're not really vibing, you might 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.760 feel the same way she might have told Steve yesterday 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.040 they should be funny. 0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.600 I don't know why they act like such and such because. 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:29.280 People have come to you, people have gone to you 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.720 as my son and said Tamika is like, I don't 0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:34.720 think I could joke with her, like she seems like 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.280 she's and you like, what are you talking about? Talk 0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.720 to Tamika like she's fine? How many people have contacted 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.560 you and said they didn't know if they could call 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:44.920 me to ask me to sign a letter for them, 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.760 or to do a thing, or to come to their event, 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.760 And you like, no, like she's actually fine, Like just 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:53.240 ask her and then they get to know me. But 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.600 sometimes we have up walls because of things. 0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.320 People and crew. 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.560 Your mind is on some other shit. 0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:04.520 When people catch you at the wrong moment and you 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.080 might get a reaction, you're not focused on it, and 0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.040 people like that person don't like me, and you like 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.640 don't like you. I don't even you know what I'm saying. 0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:13.880 So there are she might not like her. 0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.960 It's like I'm saying, like trying to make excuses. She 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.040 might not like her, right, and it might be wrong. 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.399 It might do It's fine because you don't got to 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:24.159 like everybody. 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:25.119 But she said. 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.680 Her specific thing was that she treats. She thinks we're 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:32.200 the help, right, so that that would make somebody feel uncomfortable. 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.120 And I get it, I get it. I understand. All 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:39.120 I'm saying is there was no reason you yes, And 0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:40.880 there will be people will say, well, that's why you know. 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.840 Of course you shouldn't be talking to jail phone. Cool. 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:44.280 That's fine, I get it. 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:46.880 It's just like saying, when you write a character letter 0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.600 for people what's his name, Ashton Kutcher and the other 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.440 one in the Azalea, when you write a character letter 0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.000 for people you need to know. But it is different 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.680 because your phone call is supposed to be only like 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.160 you said, it's supposed to be private unless you're talking 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.880 about illegal activity. However, you want to imagine if there's 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:09.040 third parties that are reading and or seeing anything that 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.400 it might be to the public, right, they might be 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.880 released to the public, may be publicly known. However, you 0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:21.920 should still no other person should want to be the 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.840 person to try to destroy people's families. And to what 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:28.720 Steve said, and also Miss Strawberry, what she said is 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.480 that because of what's going on right now with all 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.840 of these blogs trying to pick apart whether Marjorie did this, 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.160 whether this did that, and whether Steve is this and 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:40.200 that and the third. Because they're so focused on it. 0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.160 For those takes to be leaked, it's almost like it 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.960 was done on purpose. It's almost like somebody knew, well, 0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:49.400 damn you know the two of them was I got 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.680 these tastes, but like, did you go back and get them? 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.360 Like what type of person are you? And it's just 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.560 some people in this world, This is my thought of 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:56.920 the day. 0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:57.840 There are some. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.480 People in this world who are just really bottom feeders. 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.360 Like that's literally what they are. It's not that everybody 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.160 is perfect. I certainly am not perfect. You're not perfect. 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.240 None of us are. We've made mistakes, we've hurt people, 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.080 we've done wrong or whatever. But being a bottom feet 0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.440 of means that you are intentionally, like you sitting around 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.479 looking at things that you could go and do to 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.920 try to hurt people. And it's just really crazy to me. 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.760 It's really crazy. It's really the fact that those tapes 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.800 will lead is like really bottom feet of shit right there, 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:31.320 for real. 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:37.520 It is, man, It's very very terrible, very very terrible. 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.000 It's real because I understanding it, thinking. 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.240 Like you can't even have a thought no more, and 0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.560 share your thoughts with your most intimate person without the 0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.200 world trying to expose your thoughts, because everybody thoughts about 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.640 everybody is not gonna always be positive all the time. 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.160 And sometimes you share those thoughts with the people that 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.120 you trust, and when those thoughts get out, it's like damn, 0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.960 like you just it's we just in a very strange time, 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.800 you know, in this culture and the internet and technology. 0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.160 Has made it that much stage excuse. 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.080 Me, so you know, I'm just saying, man, be careful 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.280 on the phone, man, jail phone, any phone, because you 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:12.600 don't know. 0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:13.240 What's going on. 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.160 You don't know what's going on no more. 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.800 You gotta you gotta whisper like you know when you 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.320 watch the sports that they put the tower over their 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.640 mouth when they talk. You gotta you gotta go through 0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:24.600 all types of shit. 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.600 Man, crazy, even in your own house, you could be 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.360 being reported like you know, even in your own house. 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.320 I mean shit, they was listening to doctor King's conversations 0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.760 in his hotel room right like everywhere you go, and 0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.880 it's and I mean whatever, it is the life you live, 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:43.440 and it is what it is. These are celebrities these 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.160 are people connected to celebrities that work with celebrities, and 0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:50.200 so I get it, but I just feel like, I 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.840 just feel I have a deep like. 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:54.920 I don't want to know. 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.880 I don't want to know everything that's being said about 0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.080 me by people that I work with or talk to 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.840 or see i'm around. I don't even care what people 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.480 who I don't deal with have to say. But the 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:08.800 people who are around me, I don't want to know 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.320 what their worst thoughts of me are in the moments 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.880 when they're either upset with me or going through their 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:19.280 own shit or having their own insecurities. And the only 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.160 time I want to know is when I've done something 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.000 to them that they need to come to me and 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:23.640 talk about. 0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:24.160 That's it. 0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.560 Other than that whatever they thought that they told their 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:31.000 husband or their wife, that's crazy. 0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:31.920 It's just it's. 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:35.640 Definitely bottom feeder, Like it's terrible that that happen, and 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.360 I feel bad to see because you could see by 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.600 the way, like you said, we've been around Steve, Steve 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:42.440 is out here trying. Steve ain't trying to be a 0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:47.160 no mess period. He ain't trying to be a no mess. Okay, 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:50.640 he don't want no mess, you know, He just trying 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:57.280 to help people, give his entertainment, give resources to kids, and. 0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:58.800 That's it, and deal with his family. 0:32:58.880 --> 0:32:59.239 That's it. 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.760 He want to say, sail on out on his time, 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:04.520 his last few whatever shakes in this earth. 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:07.280 On the way like. 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.160 Come on, and then here we are and here you 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.200 got people that are in. It's like they see you 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.680 happy and then it's like break. 0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.640 It away, break it you ain't gonna be happy. You're 0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:19.959 gonna chip this bitch away. 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:27.040 Yeah, marg margin, whatever margin may. Whatever Margie did or 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:31.240 didn't do, how she got what she had, where she was, 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.000 how does it impact your life? 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:38.080 How? And more over her husband loves her? That's it? 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:43.160 But dirty drugs man, sitting and wasting your time, bro, 0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:45.960 So it certains you, like he said, we all right, 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.040 you waste this other ship you have to be doing 0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:48.600 with your. 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:54.000 Time, bro, You wasting your time telling you find you 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:54.800 something else to do. 0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:58.240 That man is a season that is an elderly seasoned 0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.600 man to understands. 0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.840 Elderly gonna think Steve would be like, oh my god, 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:03.320 you think I'm elderly. 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:03.600 Not elderly. 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:08.000 He's an older, mature man, A mature mature man even 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.640 have been around that's shit y'all doing. 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.960 You gotta do that with the kids, and she don't 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.200 work with grown grown groom for that. Ain't just a 0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:17.640 grown that's a grown grown man is sick? 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:22.840 Does we are. 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.920 Are bringing on our guests who's actually another one. 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:26.440 Of our friends. 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:31.319 The big thing around UH Street politicians is that we 0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.040 always have our friends on and that's because our friends 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:36.879 are doing amazing things. And guess what, just because we're 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.719 friends doesn't mean that we don't have debate about issues 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.160 all the time. But this sister is our dear friend. 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:46.759 And we have traveled miles on roads back roads to 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:50.600 see about families who have been harmed, and police violence 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:56.520 issues and issues in our community, violence within our communities, 0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:00.920 fighting for black women, standing up for black family, supporting 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:06.280 black men because we are major despite what people may think, 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.400 we are major supporters of black men. Of course we 0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:14.920 support you, my son, Attorney Ben Krump, Attorney Angelo Pinto, 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:19.000 Trade of Truth, like we are are a group of 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.399 women who really are behind our men, and our men 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:25.279 are behind us. And I am so excited that our 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.680 sister is joining us today. She sent me a text 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.080 message which I'll tell you all about shortly. My personal 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:33.160 thing that I have always said, and I know you 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:38.200 and I share this feeling, is that she's literally brilliant, 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:44.040 like literally a brilliant mind, the way in which she 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:49.239 thinks and can articulate better than many people that I know. 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.720 We've watched her for years on Roland Martin Show, given 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:56.000 commentary on Fox News. 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:59.160 Not afraid to go to any platform, it's all Fox 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.000 News whoever. 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:05.400 She's there representing the people, and a lot of people 0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.879 know her from her time being an attorney. That's when 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:12.840 I first learned of her being an attorney for Bill Cosby, 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.560 and then she's just gone on to do so many 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.560 other things since then. I know it's a long introduction, 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:19.160 but I want to make sure people know who my 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:19.879 sister is. 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.680 Right, big Mo, Big big Mo. 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:23.200 Right. 0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:30.520 Monique Presley, a legal analyst and a legal mind, a 0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:34.040 leader in a legal space who is helping us to 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.840 really put together an amazing legal strategy around some of 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.319 these social justice cases that we're fighting. So thank you, 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.160 Monie presently for joining Street Politicians. 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.960 Well, thank you so much for having me and for 0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.800 that generous introduction, and thank you for all the things 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:51.080 you left out of the introduction that you could have 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.680 put in God bless you. And yes, I did have 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.759 to kind of invite my own self on here, but 0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:58.080 I was just tired of waiting. 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.759 I'm just saying no, here and you you and we 0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:05.399 need that. See, that's what we're talking about. That is 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:12.520 called friendship support. And it's also just it's just mature 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:15.640 that you might be thinking, Okay, well I need to 0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.160 be all because I got some stuff to say. 0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:21.600 But it's the first time. I didn't know that. 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:22.799 I didn't realize that. 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.480 But you know, well, why do I feel like you 0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:26.560 was only like three times? 0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.960 I guess because we are on your platform and we together, 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:33.840 so you automatically assume, wow, okay, this is definitely what 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:34.279 we do. 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:35.520 Okay, I do. 0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.680 But there are other people, I'm sure who feel the 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.600 same way because sometimes you just don't think about. 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:40.920 It or whatever. 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.040 And the maturity is, hey, I need to come on 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.680 and talk about this issue rather than these days don't 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.040 like me. I don't know why they treat me like that, 0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.880 not like, oh my god. The nineteen Keys post is 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:58.560 something the other day that said, stop complaining about people 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.920 who are doing things that you ain't gonna do. 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:04.880 And help, like help get involved, find a way to 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.200 get involved. He's complainer. 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.479 Complaining is the language of suckers or something, and I said, 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:13.480 it's my final vocals. 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:14.480 Yea. 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.840 Anyway, so the text message you sent me, I said 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.960 last two weeks ago in my thought of the day 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.440 that I want people to just stop talking about Trump 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.200 because it is making its given me anxiety. I said, 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.719 if we're not gonna put him in jail, lead a 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:35.600 man alone, because he is actually becoming bigger than what 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:38.320 he was. He was able to raise seven million dollars 0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.600 after that mugshot photo, and it's just you know, And 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.160 of course I want Trump to be prosecuted. Of course, 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.799 I definitely want him to be prosecuted. But I want 0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:49.160 him to be prosecuted and I want him to go 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.360 to jail. I don't want him to somehow have a 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:55.680 Jedi mind trick with our people that he was able 0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:58.680 to get out of this and then have folks either 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.520 because I'm seeing some praise stuff online from some black 0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.759 men that I actually know very well, who were like, yeah, 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.759 they're doing the same thing the Trump that they did 0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:11.000 the Pooky, So you know, and I also have issues 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.240 with Fanny. And so then you send me a message 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.120 and said yikes, Can I come on to talk about this? 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:19.680 And I said, absolutely, So here we are, So why 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:23.480 don't you just get us started in this conversation and 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:24.960 then we'll kind of jump in. 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.000 Well, look, a lot of people have a lot of 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.239 things to say about some of the laws that are 0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:36.160 being used, and I understand that. But the place that 0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:40.919 my yikes came from was the comment you made about 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.920 unless we know, unless we know that we're going to 0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.359 get him, let's leave him alone. Because to me, that 0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:52.160 is the opposite of that is that's what's been wrong 0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:57.520 for centuries with our justice system and with the way 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:04.080 prosecutions are handled in the United States. We give prosecutors, 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:09.399 whether it's local prosecutors, whether it's state ags, whether it's 0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:17.279 district attorneys, US attorneys, the the US Attorney General, broad discretion. 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.719 They have the right in their own office. They ain't 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.080 got to ask nobody about nothing. They have the right 0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.400 in their own own office to decide whether a prosecution 0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.760 is going to go forward or not. And it's supposed 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.880 to be based upon whether they believe, based on the 0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:36.600 facts that they've done, based on their investigation, whether they 0:40:36.680 --> 0:40:41.880 have enough to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt so, 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.480 at the point that they go to a grand jury, 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.920 or in jurisdictions where they don't even have to go 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.839 to a green jury, at the point that they bring 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:54.480 charges they're supposed to from their office perspective be locked 0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.320 in and knowing, yeah, we got the goods on this person. 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:04.439 And so for centuries we have watched black men after 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.720 black man, after black men, after black women, after brown 0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:13.120 man after brown woman be prosecuted relentlessly, whether there was 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:18.080 enough information or not, squeezing on people who were turned 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.319 over to give states evidence. We call them in our 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:25.080 circle snitches, doing everything necessary in order to bring down 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:30.000 people for lesser offenses. While they're these other people, largely 0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:36.120 white men over sixty with money, who were thought to 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.480 be beyond the law, and their companies are thought to 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:43.920 be beyond the law. So prosecutors, whether through fear, through intimidation, 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.080 through being bought off through that's the way it goes. 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.279 When you white in America, everything belongs to you, have 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:55.920 refrained from prosecuting them. And I never wanted to be 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.319 a prosecutor, ain't never been prosecutor, never will be. I'm 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:03.759 defense minded. But the prosecutors, especially the progressive ones, serve 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.719 an important job. So for me, the same way we're 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.000 willing to like pick up, I know you guys are 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:12.799 willing to do it, and they're doing it again and 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:16.560 get the day the Camerons of the world for not 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:21.680 doing their job when prosecutors buck the tide, buck the system, 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.360 and are willing to do their job when they have 0:42:24.560 --> 0:42:27.520 the goods on somebody, especially a former president of the 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:28.280 United States. 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:31.480 To me, that is important, and I definitely agree with 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:32.280 that sentiment. 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.560 But I also agree with the kind of understand where 0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.160 to me is coming from, right, because you know, being 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:44.799 somebody who understands, who is knowledgeable enough to understand the 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.760 dangers of Trump, a Trump administration, just Trump in general 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.680 and what he represents, and knowledgeable enough to see that 0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.359 we have to really also think about our people who 0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:56.960 are not as knowledgeable. 0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:57.399 Right. 0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:01.839 I've had conversations with people who said, well, Trump let 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:02.760 my man out of jail. 0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.520 It was more money in the hood than any when 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:06.880 Trump was in office. 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.600 And they have these conversations and they view him much 0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.520 as you do, like the mafia leader that they. 0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.319 Vote for in the movies right there, and he plays 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:17.920 on that understanding. 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.880 He understands that our communities idolize, you know, that type 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.680 of infamous figure based on just the realities that we're 0:43:25.719 --> 0:43:28.040 dealing with in this culture that some of them have 0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.440 dealt with. They see him as someone who's going against 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:33.040 the system. Trump is not a politician. Trump is just 0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:34.960 somebody who figured out the politician. 0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:35.560 He got in law. 0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.640 He like me and you, And so when we when 0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:41.960 we indict Trump on these things, there has to be 0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:45.920 in my opinion and understanding, Tamika, there has to be 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:51.160 a clear and a clear understanding and a clear path 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:55.760 to actual victory or else you actually within this culture 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.560 and what we're dealing with now, especially within the culture 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:02.160 of the young black you know, thrown away black man 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.560 who's been locked up, his uncle's been locked up for 0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.160 the things he didn't do, or just somebody who's trying 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.040 to beat the system that they felt already beating us up. 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.480 We have to understand how Trump understands that and he 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:17.799 utilized his marketing and promotion to benefit him. So we 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.200 have to understand that every time that something happens and 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.279 it doesn't go our way and Trump gets away, it's 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.239 not like me and me and Jojo that get locked 0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:29.400 up and we get prosecuted and if. 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:31.080 We beat it, you know, one or two people going 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:31.839 to say you did good. 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.319 No, he empowers the mind state, right, he gets more 0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:42.560 power from watched you know, on prosecutions or things that 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.080 they bring forward to him, and he's able to wiggle 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:47.920 his way out of I don't think. I don't know 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:51.040 if it really benefits, if it's not really being prosecuted 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.640 and he's actually being held accountable in consequences. 0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.080 Yeah, but I don't know what you're talking about, Mice. 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:57.799 I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, he's 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:01.120 never been charged with a criminal action and gotten away 0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:04.160 with it. There's never been a criminal action brought against 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:10.280 him and it be dismissed. These prosecutors are career prosecutors. 0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:15.080 And for me, I take personal exception because I'm a 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.880 black lawyer in America. You know, I've been on the 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:21.840 government side. I do civil rights now, I crisis manage 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:25.280 instead of trying cases. But Alvin Bragg ain't no damn fool. 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:29.160 He's not bringing a case against a former president that 0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.359 he doesn't have the goods on. He's not built that way. 0:45:32.520 --> 0:45:36.080 He's not putting himself in danger, his family in danger. 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:40.719 He's walking around with secret service twenty four hours a day. 0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:43.759 His children have to leave school in order to bring 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.320 a case that he can't win. Fannie Willis, for whatever 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:48.840 people think about her, She's good at her job. She 0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.640 brings cases against you. Yours is going to jail. I 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:57.879 don't know if we cuss here forgive me, but you know, 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:02.719 I mean this black woman layer Howard lawyer. These are 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.719 Howard lawyers. I'm mentioning, say, you know, I'm gonna get 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:09.600 real extra. I'm gonna be real extra about this. Letitia 0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:14.520 James in the civil court. These are people who have 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:18.000 spent their lives doing this job, and they know how 0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:22.000 to do this job. And this one man has all 0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:26.160 these cases and all these different jurisdictions because he used 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.600 his presidency as a criminal enterprise. Just like my son 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:33.120 said this, he ran it like he's a mob boss. 0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:37.560 So for me, the issue can't be whether they should 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:39.440 bring the case or not. They got the goods. You 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.759 can look at these cases and see it's evidence up 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.440 one side down another. Can we control juris in the 0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:48.120 United States? No, I believe in jury's we can't control 0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:51.560 them judges. Can we control whether a judge can get 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:55.440 bought off, get paid for. No, we can't control those things. 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.080 But that doesn't mean that the prosecutor doesn't have to 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.919 do their job. They have to do their part. Then 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.640 we have to educate our people with platforms. You guys 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:09.000 have gigantic, ginormous platforms that you utilize for good. Which 0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.799 is why I said, please let me come, because I 0:47:11.840 --> 0:47:15.160 want our people to know polk in them. 0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:15.880 Yeah. 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.279 They they always gonna get prosecuted. Don't you want to 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:20.799 say the other side? No? 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.839 And I greet listen again, we want Trump to be prosecuted. 0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.600 Alvin Bragg I know him well. I trust him, Tish, 0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:34.600 my sister trust her, excuse me, Attorney General Lytitia James. 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:35.560 And that's the one. 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:38.000 You know. 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.640 I I know these people are trying to do the 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:43.640 right thing. I know they are right. 0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:44.080 Fanny. 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:45.879 I do have issues with her because I don't see 0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:48.520 her prosecuting police officers the way that I think that 0:47:48.600 --> 0:47:51.640 she should be in the state of in Georgia. And 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.759 then these reco charges now for protesters who are out 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.800 there trying to stop this cop city from being built. 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.120 That for me is howl. 0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:02.239 That's not hers. 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.120 I thought it was. I thought people tell. 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.640 Me that it is. Well, we should find that out. 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:08.640 We should, we should. 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.680 Yes, that's an important thing for us to know, because 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:15.480 people who are there in Georgia have specifically named her 0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.320 at edis in her office. 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:22.879 Yeah, no, it's it's in the State AG's office. Okay, cool, 0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:25.279 I appreciate you for educating me on that. 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.080 But the come with the goods. 0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.240 Which that's another thing that happens to Meka, like it'll 0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.359 be a law now any black man, No, when they 0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.160 when they throw rico at you, your defense lawyer gets depressed. 0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.280 You throw your hands up and start cussing. I mean, 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:47.520 the reason it's so serious is because it can be used. 0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:50.359 I agree. It can be used to grab the man 0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:53.600 who is tearing the milk cart when when the criminal 0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:56.479 got a cart and the milk before he went into 0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.879 the bank. It gets like that, But it matters who 0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.520 using it and whether they're using it for the right 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.719 purposes or not. So if the law is on the books, 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.200 I want Fannie Willis to use that lot to get 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:09.239 Trump and all his end. 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.640 I agree with it, I agree, But I have seen 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.760 I have been a part of the conversations recently where 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:20.040 people are saying something that I think is true that one, 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:24.120 for instance, one of the reasons why we are veheminently 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:29.120 against the death penalty, even though white supremacists and others 0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.120 who have done heinous acts, who will committed heinous acts 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:37.360 against us light going in and shooting up the Dollar 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:43.000 General in Jacksonville or the supermarket in Buffalo, Do I 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:46.239 believe that those people are worthless, that they should not 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.680 be here with us, and that if the death penalty 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:53.319 was being applied fairly, that they were good candidates for it. Absolutely, 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:58.920 But because that the death penalty is also in Daniel 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:03.160 Cameron's twelve point planned where he says he wants drug 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.520 dealers to receive the death penalty, and we know to 0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:09.640 Massan's point that he keeps making is that they will 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:13.120 never give the death penalty to the drug dealers in 0:50:13.200 --> 0:50:18.120 the pharmaceutical companies that are really killing mass, mass mass. 0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:18.880 Millions of people. 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:22.800 They will give it though, to Pooky who's selling whatever 0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:27.040 on a street corner in Alabama. And so therefore, when 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.879 we have these laws, it's or these yeah, these, these yeah, 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.520 these laws, it makes us nervous because they are often 0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:38.239 applied to unfairly and imbalance, and. 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:39.920 Our communities are harmed. 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:40.840 So what I'm. 0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:42.919 Saying is that even though people may not be able 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.640 to articulate everything that they're feeling, that is one of 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.239 the thoughts that's coming to mind where folks are like, yeah, 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.200 I don't know about that rego charge, because now you 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.600 hear of it coming up with the protesters, who are 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:56.080 people who are literally putting their lives on the line 0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.920 because they know. We don't need more training facilities for 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:04.319 police officers in communities. We need resources going to communities, 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:05.279 right and. 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:08.560 So so it's a scary. And so I get you. 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.840 I get what you're saying that these individuals who. 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:17.200 Are now prosecuting or attempted, who have bought cases and 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:21.040 charges against Donald Trump, they are doing the right thing. 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:25.400 I'm with that we don't we agree. What I'm saying 0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:29.600 is that as I sit with the chatter of our people, 0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:32.600 like all our you know, and of course we know 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.319 we talk to folks the. 0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.319 Ray Rays, the Keisha's, TT's. 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:40.719 The Lee Lee's, and our people, we are in a 0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:46.959 space where folks are feeling very unsure and I think 0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:50.640 the Internet needs to be defunded, as I saw Charlemagne 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.920 Stay the other day, because people are getting like a little. 0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:58.720 Confused and disillusion and a lot of things that happen, 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:02.520 and emotionally they're getting detached. It's a lot happening. 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:05.840 So when they see Trump on TV and it's like, 0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.080 we're gonna hit him with these charges and then the 0:52:08.080 --> 0:52:11.239 next thing, you know, for some reason is dismissed. 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.080 Or they don't win. I just don't know how that's 0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:14.120 gonna impact us. 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:17.640 So I guess you're saying be responsible in the way 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.800 that I speak, because I'm over here making this statement, 0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:22.760 leave him alone if we're not gonna do anything. 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:23.920 But I think I was. 0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:27.480 It was real layman for me that I'm just saying 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.080 as a regular citizen, not as an activist, not as 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:34.440 somebody who is friends with brilliant people like yourself and others. 0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:38.120 I'm just feeling very nervous about the. 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.040 Signal that's being sent that it seems that he just 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.080 keeps on doing stuff and going to court and then 0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.400 this doesn't happen, and that doesn't happen, and he's just 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:49.840 kind of like still free and still running for president 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:54.239 of the United States with all of these charges against him. 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.000 So that's what I that was, And I know you 0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.960 know that that's the point that I'm making. I feel, 0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:02.880 really I'm worried about us, believe I'm being I'm so, 0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.680 I'm really concerned about what's happened in this country because 0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.840 I'm watching people decide if you can't beat them, just 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.799 join them, freak it. We just fuck it, hey, And 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:14.959 we can't be that way. 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:21.080 No, we can't be that way. And I wonder I 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:25.200 am concerned like you, and I've been spending a lot 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:31.440 of nights wondering where the where the connectivity gap is, 0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:36.880 Like why I can't get some brothers and sisters whom 0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:45.520 I respect, who lead organizations, who who are leaders in community, 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:51.239 to see it's not lesser of two evils. It's not 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:55.319 all politicians are the same. It's not oh so what 0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.799 he just made a phone call. It's not like we have. 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:05.320 We've gone so far away from the breaks that would 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.440 keep us in line, that would keep us from just 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:13.879 running away with ourselves until now everything is acceptable. If 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.000 Bishop Jakes was on right now, he'd started talking about 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.200 how it's the last days, because that's one of the 0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:22.600 signals of it. When we are just at the end 0:54:22.640 --> 0:54:27.719 of times and nobody gives a damn about lawlessness or 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.439 lack of lawlessness, about the way we treat ourselves, about 0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:33.200 the way we treat our children when everything has just 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:37.760 run away from us. And so I don't think that means, though, 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:42.680 that we don't dig in. I think it means we 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:45.839 dig in further and we're more creative about the way 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:47.560 that we do it. Because I got to tell you 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:52.319 to began. My kids, who are teens, they get all 0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:56.839 of it. They are looking at us adults like we 0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:01.480 are dumb with two heads. Like when Trump was elected 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.719 the first time, my daughter and her school, of course, 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.640 they had had their straw pool vote. Hillary Clinton won 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:11.360 by landslide, and my daughter was you know, she was 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:13.759 a young team then, but she walked in and she's like, 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:17.080 so Mom, Like the women just voted to sell their 0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.480 uteruses to the men. I mean, they just didn't care, 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:23.440 Like it was real plain. It was so plain to 0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:26.960 the teens, like they deal with the racism, and their 0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:31.520 thought is you elected a grand dragon of the Klan, 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.560 and you're wondering why there's more racism, Like it's real 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:38.319 clear to them. So I'm just trying to figure out 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:42.040 how we can stop gap until it's not up to 0:55:42.120 --> 0:55:44.839 us anymore and not really mess them up so they 0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:47.560 can come behind us. I mean, we see young state 0:55:47.640 --> 0:55:52.680 representatives and leaders who were coming who to me, have 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.640 their head on straight and are ready to fight the 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.040 way that we used to fight when we knew. Yet 0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:01.040 the man's always got it rigged for him that that's 0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:04.120 a given, that's not a surprise. We have to dig 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.279 in though, and do our part. 0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.960 And I think I think what Tamika said about what 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:12.759 Sheelman said, it's the exact opposite, right, And I think 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:19.200 it's not so much as misinformation, it is intentional spreading 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:21.399 of false information, right. 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:24.960 I think we have to and that's one of my strategies. 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:28.040 Like I've realized that social media and media is such 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.239 a big thing and a lot of people don't a 0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:32.440 lot of people don't focus on it as much of 0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:36.000 it is. But it's it's programming. It's constant programming. Like 0:56:36.040 --> 0:56:37.200 a lot of these cases. 0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:41.359 You know, I literally watched somebody have Misinformation. 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:43.879 Is a rape case that came up by a god 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:47.239 that's in this culture who was being you know, promoted 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.960 as one of these top black leaders and he supposedly, 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:57.560 you know, molested a young girl, his girl's daughter, and 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.759 his conversation the mis information that he came out right, 0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:05.440 you know the law, so he said, you know, they 0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:06.080 was pleading. 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:07.240 They gave him a plea. 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.160 Bargain and they said, all right, if you don't the 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:12.920 two molestation cases will drop them if you take the 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:14.600 aggravated child abuse cases. 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:16.400 The mother didn't want to go to put a daughter 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:18.360 to the child. She didn't want her to have to 0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:20.520 testify and do that, so they. 0:57:20.920 --> 0:57:26.720 Offered him this, and in his attempt to miss interpret 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:30.360 and give people for his information, he came and said 0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.800 that the prosecution and the mother agreed to. 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:34.680 Drop the charges. 0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:38.200 Right, So when you don't know the law, when you 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:40.640 don't know that, somebody pleads to a different thing doesn't 0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.200 mean no charges to drop. It means if you take this, 0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:45.400 then we won't prosecute you. And it's the means that 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.720 we dropping the charges. But you have to accept the 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.400 plea boggin. You pleaded to lesser charges, they didn't drop anything. 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.880 If you don't take the plea boggain, then we still 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.320 prosecuting you on the top two charges. But when somebody 0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.200 comes to the internet and said, well those causes was 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:02.320 dropped sexual assault, all of the sexual cases would drop. 0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:04.400 The prosecution agreed to drop something. 0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:08.600 It misinforms people, and people take that information and they say, look, 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.160 he wasn't accused of that. He took something else because 0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:13.080 he wasn't accused of the set. And when we start 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:16.200 hearing information like that in different places, like when we 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.000 with Trump and you had people intentionally saying, well, Trump 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:21.040 didn't do this, and Trump did that, and the real 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:25.680 people who know aren't as loud, aren't on the same platforms, 0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:29.640 aren't utilizing the platforms to spread the real information the. 0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:30.240 People take it. 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.480 When we look at Torrey LANs case, he utilized the 0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.760 whole social media just to put out false information every 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.080 day and let the little minions and trolls say she 0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:40.680 launched and it was a whole people just called the 0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:43.160 lady a liar that never even knew what happened. Right, 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:45.959 So by the time the actual facts of that case 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:49.320 would presented, it was even people like Tamika was like, well, 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:50.720 I don't know, I don't know what it's going to 0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:51.040 go on. 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.400 I'm confused, And I'm like, what do you mean you confused? 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.520 Because but she's no, no, no. 0:58:55.720 --> 0:58:57.680 I was never confused about the facts. 0:58:57.800 --> 0:58:58.400 No, you wasn't. 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:00.960 You was confused about the reality of what was going 0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:03.560 what was going to happen in I was. 0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:07.680 I was worried about the outcome basically on the shell 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:09.720 game that I saw had what I'm. 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:12.200 Saying, I'm not saying. You didn't think the facts, so 0:59:12.240 --> 0:59:14.600 you knew what the fast was and you was like, well, damn, 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.840 based on what they presented and based on what they're 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.479 saying is happening in there, and it was so far 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:20.480 from the reality. 0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:22.720 When she actually went there and seeing she's like, damn, 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:26.840 that's not what's going on. I seen something went exactly. 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.960 I went to court to see for myself because I 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.600 was very I was like, I don't I don't you know, 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:37.360 I believe I know what happened. I'm damned, like you 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:41.280 know one hundred percent in my mind, but this over here, 0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:44.880 what they're trying to say sounds like something else. And 0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:47.200 I went to hear and see for myself, and I 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:48.720 learned exactly. 0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:50.000 And that's what I'm trying to say. 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.360 If we are not utilizing these platforms and we don't 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:56.760 have the proper voices like yourself to come and snatch 0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:57.480 us back. 0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:00.000 In and be like, no, we got to prosecute. 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.320 This man has a Rico, he did, and you when 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:04.000 we look at you and I'm looking at you and 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:06.080 I'm like, Okay, no know what the fuck you're talking about. 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:08.880 But I'm over here getting a thousand people that's telling 1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:12.240 me some bullshit and they controlling the ears and the 1:00:12.960 --> 1:00:16.160 eyes of the masses. We have to be intentional, Monique. 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:17.200 We like, we can't. 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:20.720 We just can't leave it up because when you lose, 1:00:20.840 --> 1:00:23.160 even when you lose in the court and you win 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:26.240 in the court of public, the pion, it's millions of people, right. 1:00:26.280 --> 1:00:30.480 It's why we have fucking January sixth, because the the 1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:33.919 misinformation and the intentional mispreading and some shit got people 1:00:33.960 --> 1:00:36.520 saying fuck that. And they literally were sitting there like, well, 1:00:36.560 --> 1:00:38.640 Trump told us we could do it. We just was 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:41.000 doing what the President said, were taking back to white 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:44.080 and they thought they were, They really thought. So it's 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:46.880 a cult like understanding of what I'm trying to say. 1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:49.440 And if we don't get somebody to intervene in that 1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:52.919 colt and have a counter narrative on these same platforms 1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:55.760 that they spreading this bullshit, then we're gonna we our 1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:59.120 people are gonna continue to keep telling the educated people 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:02.520 that you're talking about because they're getting their education. Even 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:05.720 though they're educating in certain ways, social media and media 1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:09.200 has another level of education, right, and they hearing people 1:01:09.240 --> 1:01:12.360 that they respect come with count with narratives that are 1:01:12.360 --> 1:01:14.919 false and words are the false. And when they don't 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.840 all the way know everything, they take that and they 1:01:17.880 --> 1:01:19.160 come to you and they say, well, this. 1:01:19.240 --> 1:01:21.480 Is facts, and they come to you factually. And I've 1:01:21.480 --> 1:01:22.520 had people that I. 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:24.840 Just say, yo, bro, you just need to calm down. 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.240 These are the fac Just look into it. You just 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:30.520 calmed down to do a little extra work and look 1:01:30.560 --> 1:01:32.240 into something and you'll see, just like what I was 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:33.880 talking about the rape. They and God came back and say, 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:36.800 you know what, you was right. I apologize after two 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:39.960 days telling me that I was spreading false information. 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:41.240 I was lying on the guy. 1:01:41.560 --> 1:01:44.240 He wasn't having no sex charges and he wasn't gonna 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:46.360 be in a sex offender program and he wasn't this, 1:01:46.440 --> 1:01:46.960 and I'm. 1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:49.800 Like, by the information, this is a lot. I went 1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:51.479 to the web and I'm like, Broy, you just need 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:52.360 to take your time. 1:01:52.800 --> 1:01:54.920 And that's what our people are dealing one morning, so 1:01:55.280 --> 1:01:58.600 I think, what are we gonna do to change that? 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:04.360 And to utilize these platforms that they're utilizing to mis 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.280 to mis inform us, to give us the proper information. 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.400 Well, so a couple of things. First, the guy who 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:14.160 said that those charges were draped, I don't know that story, 1:02:14.200 --> 1:02:17.520 so I don't know who you're talking about. But saying 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:21.439 that charges were dropped when they were is correct. That's 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:25.880 correct if you're or offered a plea bargain and the state. 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:28.200 This is why I talk about prosecutors and all their 1:02:28.240 --> 1:02:32.200 power decides when they could bring a murder charge, to 1:02:32.280 --> 1:02:36.560 bring an assault charge instead, to bring a manslaughter charge instead, 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:40.320 to bring you know, and accept defensive others or whatever 1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:43.160 the defense may be. What that means is that you 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:47.360 were not convicted of, nor did you stand trial for 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:50.720 whatever those higher charges were. So you can keep saying 1:02:50.880 --> 1:02:53.960 any day you want to say that it was dismissed 1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:57.840 and the context. Then it's up to the other people 1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:02.200 who know the information to include the context of yes, 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:05.240 this was part of a plea bargain. We don't know 1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:07.520 what would have happened in court. We don't know if 1:03:07.560 --> 1:03:09.720 it would have been found guilty of the higher charges 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:12.200 or not. Because this decision was made by the government 1:03:12.240 --> 1:03:16.320 that's one two. The court of public opinion. And my 1:03:16.440 --> 1:03:19.360 dear friend Ben Crump and I who I know is 1:03:19.400 --> 1:03:21.640 y'all's dear friend and brother as well. We just agree 1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:25.320 about this all the time because he utilizes it just 1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:28.240 as much as the bad guys. Right, He utilizes it 1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:30.560 the minute, the minute that there's a case and the 1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:33.360 minute that he knows that he needs to get out 1:03:33.400 --> 1:03:36.520 in the public and inform the public. And you're going 1:03:36.560 --> 1:03:38.600 to see the press conference, you're going to see the 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:41.040 news blitz, and you're going to see everything to get 1:03:41.040 --> 1:03:44.960 ahead of the story. Because that pressure is what creates 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:48.840 the good result for the client. And that's his only responsibility. 1:03:49.040 --> 1:03:51.320 His responsibility is not whether it ends up in a 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:54.439 criminal trial or not. He's supposed to win his civil case. 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:57.560 He's supposed to get the best resolution he can for 1:03:57.720 --> 1:04:02.160 the injured parties that he represents. He utilizes public pressure 1:04:02.200 --> 1:04:05.440 to do so. But that same public pressure can be 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:11.400 utilized to destroy lives before they ever reach a courtroom. 1:04:11.880 --> 1:04:14.520 So we have black folk on black folks on black folk, 1:04:15.520 --> 1:04:17.800 a few white folk here and there too. But again, 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:20.360 I'm a criminal defense attorney. I never back away from it. 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:23.240 And I'll say if you ever been found guilty of 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:25.120 a crime, I don't care how many crimes you've been 1:04:25.120 --> 1:04:29.760 accused of us you're not guilty. And the way this 1:04:30.160 --> 1:04:33.560 country is supposed to work is that you are innocent 1:04:34.200 --> 1:04:37.920 until you are proven guilty. People can decide if they 1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:39.600 want to. They don't want to do business with you. 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:41.560 They don't want to take your shows and put them 1:04:41.560 --> 1:04:43.360 on TV anymore, they don't want to let you go 1:04:43.400 --> 1:04:45.400 on tour anymore. They don't want to do business with 1:04:45.480 --> 1:04:48.960 your company anymore. All those things can happen. But to me, 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:51.000 my soign, if that happened to you as a black 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:54.160 man in America, because that's what happens to nothing would 1:04:54.160 --> 1:04:59.680 piss me off more. Because now you're fighting Boogeyman, you're 1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:01.840 fighting snuffle of it, because back when nobody could see 1:05:01.880 --> 1:05:07.080 him but big Bird, you're fighting shadows and mirror tricks. 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:11.800 Because any newspaper can decide, Daily Mail can get up 1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:15.160 tomorrow and decide, let's tear down to Nika, let's tear 1:05:15.200 --> 1:05:17.600 down my son, let's tear down on Linda, let's tear 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:23.480 down Angelope and do it based on rumors, based on rumors, 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:25.640 and it'll never make it to a court, not a 1:05:25.680 --> 1:05:28.439 civil court, not a criminal court, and to me that 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:31.240 is unjust. So that's why I fight. 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:32.240 Whether I think. 1:05:32.120 --> 1:05:34.640 Somebody did something or didn't, I'm like, prove it. And 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:36.360 if you're not gonna prove it, shut up about it, 1:05:36.880 --> 1:05:39.920 because we have to be able to What is the point. 1:05:40.480 --> 1:05:42.440 By the time you get to court, you get a 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:45.480 really good criminal defense attorney and you're found not guilty, 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:48.560 You've lost your whole life. Everybody left you, including your dog. 1:05:49.280 --> 1:05:50.440 What's the point? 1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:55.720 So I think happened to Brian Benjamin, the lieutenant governor 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:56.320 in New York. 1:05:56.840 --> 1:06:01.040 They said he did something to quick quote. 1:06:00.840 --> 1:06:04.840 Quot and he lost his job, He had to suspend 1:06:04.920 --> 1:06:09.320 his campaign, all of that lost friends, people start. We 1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:13.520 were at my birthday party and I won't they names, 1:06:13.600 --> 1:06:15.320 but there were people there who was like, he can't 1:06:15.320 --> 1:06:15.800 be in the picture. 1:06:15.800 --> 1:06:17.400 You got him, get him over, he can't be because 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:17.640 I can't. 1:06:18.360 --> 1:06:20.800 You had staffers running around like, hey, you got to 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:23.400 back you know, and we still we like Brian is 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:27.320 our people because until proven guilty, which, by the way, 1:06:27.920 --> 1:06:30.240 to your point about context, I get your point. What 1:06:30.360 --> 1:06:33.440 you said about the charges being dropped are the charges 1:06:33.480 --> 1:06:36.320 being dropped, But when people have contexts that helps to 1:06:36.360 --> 1:06:40.920 provide more information that gives a full view of what 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:43.680 you're looking at. You might see charges drop, but there's 1:06:43.720 --> 1:06:48.440 a reason why. And a lot of times these prosecutors 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:51.560 are looking for ways to easily shut stuff down, Like 1:06:51.640 --> 1:06:54.560 you know, they don't have the resources or the time 1:06:54.600 --> 1:06:58.240 that they just don't care enough maybe to even go 1:06:58.320 --> 1:07:01.800 through a whole long drawn now three four years process 1:07:01.960 --> 1:07:04.880 or a year or whatever however the length is, and 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:07.920 so you know they're looking for ways to cut down 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:09.880 down on time. So anyway, there's a lot of different 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:15.800 reasons why that might happen. But within Brian's situation, then 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:19.040 they the judge said, will show us the quick profault. 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:22.600 I judge said, I'm all four defans of bringing a 1:07:22.640 --> 1:07:23.760 case against this man. 1:07:24.520 --> 1:07:28.440 I'm with it. Show me where the. 1:07:28.480 --> 1:07:31.920 Specific like what did he gain he gave him and 1:07:31.960 --> 1:07:33.000 then he gave him more. 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:34.480 Show it to me. 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:35.320 Where is it? 1:07:35.680 --> 1:07:39.440 They couldn't prove it, so they threw it. But to 1:07:39.520 --> 1:07:42.280 your point, they threw it out. But he still is 1:07:42.320 --> 1:07:46.680 not lieutenant governor. His campaign was still suspended, he still 1:07:46.720 --> 1:07:50.160 spent a million dollars on legal defense, and he still 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:53.640 has another charge that is lingering that you need the 1:07:53.680 --> 1:07:55.000 first charge to prove the. 1:07:55.000 --> 1:07:58.040 Second, but doesn't matter because they didn't throw it out yet. 1:07:58.360 --> 1:08:01.040 So you're you're I mean, what you're saying is one 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:03.680 hundred percent right, and I think my saying same thing. 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:06.800 Who should be Plorida governor right now? Same thing. They 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:12.600 didn't attack that man relentlessly, relentlessly, relentlessly, and every single 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:15.560 time he's come out of it clean. Same thing. Justin 1:08:15.600 --> 1:08:20.919 Fairfax was lieutenant governor, should be governor of Virginia came. 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:25.160 Out cleaning important point. Andrew Gillen. 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:29.200 They just dismissed Kate charges again to him Jesse a 1:08:29.240 --> 1:08:34.160 few months ago. Now, these people had the biggest scandoever. 1:08:35.479 --> 1:08:39.200 Notwithstanding who he slept with, what he may have done 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:42.080 to his wife, what issues he may have had with 1:08:42.200 --> 1:08:43.439 drug use, and all of that. 1:08:43.760 --> 1:08:45.040 I'm not all of that. 1:08:45.040 --> 1:08:46.840 That's your personal judgment of him. 1:08:47.280 --> 1:08:50.559 My life ain't clean enough to judge demand for who 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:52.920 he slept with and whether or not he used drugs 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:55.080 because I was in rehab at the same time. He 1:08:55.160 --> 1:08:58.959 and I learned on his podcast and we both literally 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:03.320 shed tears what we learned that we both went to rehab. 1:09:03.600 --> 1:09:06.160 Right my situation may have been a little different, but 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:07.840 I don't have the right to judge him on that. 1:09:07.960 --> 1:09:09.880 But if that's what you choose to do, that's fine. 1:09:10.000 --> 1:09:10.639 Win Telmant. 1:09:10.720 --> 1:09:15.400 They say he broke the law, he was lying, and 1:09:15.439 --> 1:09:17.920 that he was a conspiracy. 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:19.760 I mean, they had him on so many charges I 1:09:19.760 --> 1:09:21.559 don't remember and they dismissed it. 1:09:21.600 --> 1:09:25.679 But his life is, his political career is he would 1:09:25.760 --> 1:09:29.240 have to build like Brian from the bottom all the 1:09:29.280 --> 1:09:33.200 way up again to restore the faith in people. But 1:09:33.240 --> 1:09:35.400 I tell you what, I think they should do it 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:41.120 because Marion Barry Shaw did the group's great. 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:47.320 Yeah, but when you talk about brilliant, there was none 1:09:47.400 --> 1:09:53.840 as brilliant as him, as brilliant or as beloved. And 1:09:53.920 --> 1:09:58.080 I think that that is the combination when people really 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:01.719 know that you are for them. Back in that day 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:06.280 it didn't matter. But now, as you said that, with 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:09.160 your birthday party and things like that, what they do 1:10:09.320 --> 1:10:11.439 now is like you don't even have to be the 1:10:11.479 --> 1:10:15.519 person who's accused of doing something. If you support the 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:18.479 person who is accused of doing something, if you speak 1:10:18.520 --> 1:10:21.479 well on their behalf, if you refuse to speak ill 1:10:21.560 --> 1:10:24.599 of them, they want to kill you too. They want 1:10:24.640 --> 1:10:26.720 you just as dead as the person. But here's the 1:10:26.800 --> 1:10:30.360 question though, and we gotta wrap up. 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:36.360 But when I think about asking Couture and Milo or whatever. 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:39.439 Her name, right, is there a line? 1:10:39.920 --> 1:10:40.000 Now? 1:10:40.040 --> 1:10:42.519 I'm not talking about they said something that you don't like, 1:10:43.160 --> 1:10:45.720 or they you know whatever, But I'm talking about a 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:50.400 man who is now convicted of rape and you're writing 1:10:50.479 --> 1:10:52.040 character let us on his behalf? 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:53.960 Do we think is there a line? 1:10:54.120 --> 1:10:57.240 Because what you're saying sounds real good and it's true, 1:10:57.400 --> 1:10:59.840 and it works for my relationship with Pooky because Pooky 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.400 did some crazy shit, and I know he did some 1:11:02.520 --> 1:11:06.559 crazy shit, but I still know that he deserves redemption. 1:11:07.479 --> 1:11:10.160 But if I know POOKI was convicted of rape, I 1:11:10.600 --> 1:11:13.240 can promise you I'm not signing anything on his behalf. 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:16.240 And that brings me to another conversation. We already had 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:20.000 all of us, the Carlie Russell thing right the way 1:11:20.040 --> 1:11:22.880 I was able to back some people because people were 1:11:22.880 --> 1:11:27.320 calling me they wanted they wanted literal blood. They wanted 1:11:27.800 --> 1:11:32.240 physical blood draining from her body, out of her eyes. 1:11:32.520 --> 1:11:35.080 Okay, that's how they were calling me, like, no, no, 1:11:35.160 --> 1:11:35.559 she did. 1:11:35.720 --> 1:11:36.320 And I get it. 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:39.640 They're emotional because they got emotionally connected, so they emotionally 1:11:39.640 --> 1:11:43.400 connected to the end result. But what I kept saying was, 1:11:43.880 --> 1:11:46.479 but you the same person that called me and asked 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:48.439 me to write a letter on behalf of your nephew, 1:11:48.520 --> 1:11:54.599 who you know, robbed mama, saying in the projects, but 1:11:54.640 --> 1:11:58.599 you want me to understand that he was a trouble kid, 1:11:58.760 --> 1:11:59.879 and he went some things. 1:12:00.080 --> 1:12:00.840 He was da da da dad. 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:04.840 So we can help Poky ray ray t t and 1:12:04.920 --> 1:12:08.559 we should. But you're ready to kill Carly Russell. So 1:12:08.640 --> 1:12:10.960 the question becomes, where's the line? 1:12:11.840 --> 1:12:14.719 Yeah, yeah, I mean, and the preacher in me would 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:17.240 always have to say, there's no greater or lesser sin. 1:12:18.000 --> 1:12:20.559 So it's not that there's one track for the murderer. 1:12:20.640 --> 1:12:24.200 There's another track for the rapist, there's another track for 1:12:24.280 --> 1:12:28.639 the white collar embezzler. All have sinned and fallen short. 1:12:29.160 --> 1:12:33.160 And the decision then becomes whether we believe that there 1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:37.519 is rehabilitation in the law or not, and whether we 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:40.880 believe that people should have the opportunity for it or not. 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:43.439 I can tell you I've known you long enough. I 1:12:43.479 --> 1:12:46.640 believe strongly enough in you and your character, in the 1:12:46.680 --> 1:12:48.960 good works that you do in the community, in your 1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:54.040 heart that no matter what came tomorrow, Like tomorrow, we 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:56.400 could find out you a terrorist, or you could be 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:59.320 accused of being one. You could be convicted of being 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:02.479 one at your letter. And I'm gonna tell them what 1:13:02.720 --> 1:13:07.360 I know. I'm not gonna say. Listen, she if she 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:10.040 did that one, I'm you're gonna have to convince me 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:12.479 she wasn't. Not in her mind because she needs help. 1:13:12.560 --> 1:13:15.640 She doesn't need a prison if she did whatever it is, 1:13:15.800 --> 1:13:18.600 y'all say she did second because I'm down like that. 1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:22.920 I'm like and she's still my girl, because it would 1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:25.680 the person I know. I'm fighting for that person to 1:13:25.720 --> 1:13:28.080 come back, and that may still end up being with 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:28.800 prison time. 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:30.879 Then they still end up being with whatever. 1:13:31.280 --> 1:13:33.920 But the way the system is working now, people don't 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:36.439 even seem to want to judge to have anything to balance. 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:42.160 You're gonna have fifteen victim statements, impact statements, but they 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:47.160 want the criminal, the convicted criminal, to just start wherever 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:51.080 the crime started. Nothing else they did in life mattered 1:13:51.320 --> 1:13:54.679 until they stole that one million dollars. Come on, now, 1:13:55.200 --> 1:13:58.040 in what world is that true for anybody? So I 1:13:58.040 --> 1:14:02.240 don't blame people for wanting to write and saying this 1:14:02.320 --> 1:14:04.960 is who we knew, and this is what they did 1:14:05.000 --> 1:14:07.479 in the community, or this is what they did in work, 1:14:07.760 --> 1:14:10.040 or this is the good value they offer to society, 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:13.240 because those are things that judges should be able to consider. 1:14:13.600 --> 1:14:17.200 Will it balance it such that you can walk for rape? No, 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:21.760 you already convicted. That's not happening. But it doesn't make 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:25.760 the people who are willing to say something about the 1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:29.000 person they knew, it doesn't make them bad people for that. 1:14:29.479 --> 1:14:33.160 Now the letter is also saying something ridiculous like, oh 1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:36.160 and they asked for it, well not some bullshit. You 1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:40.880 can't say that. So there are limits, but there are 1:14:40.920 --> 1:14:44.600 to be safety and protection, in my opinion, such that 1:14:44.800 --> 1:14:48.200 I can write a letter to Judge chuck In just 1:14:48.240 --> 1:14:49.960 even that for an example, because I just like bringing 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:51.600 up her name. I'll to be able to write a 1:14:51.640 --> 1:14:54.200 letter to Judge chuck In and say, listen my says 1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:56.400 to Meka. I don't know what happened on that third 1:14:56.439 --> 1:14:57.080 day in June. 1:14:57.200 --> 1:14:57.600 I don't know. 1:14:57.960 --> 1:15:01.240 It was a very bad day. But here's who she's 1:15:01.280 --> 1:15:04.280 been for the past twenty years. We got to be 1:15:04.320 --> 1:15:06.760 able to get to do that. That's that's my last tie. 1:15:06.960 --> 1:15:09.000 You know what that's a dope perspective, and I agree. 1:15:09.160 --> 1:15:12.320 I agree, we got we gotta give people enough grace 1:15:12.640 --> 1:15:16.040 because you don't know everybody's relationship with someone else, you know, 1:15:16.160 --> 1:15:19.080 and and when people love somebody, you got to stay 1:15:19.080 --> 1:15:21.000 if you can't say that you love somebody and don't 1:15:21.000 --> 1:15:23.360 want to stand with them in their hardest times to 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:26.280 some certain degree, So. 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:28.320 I support that, and I thank you. 1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:32.519 I'm just telling you my line. I have a line 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:37.200 at certain types of abuse against women and children. 1:15:37.400 --> 1:15:38.560 I have a line. 1:15:38.640 --> 1:15:41.720 Absolutely, and I would say even with men, because if 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:45.040 I found out that my that's someone I know, and 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:46.880 you would have to be damn close for me to 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:49.760 decide I don't care, not I don't care, but that 1:15:49.840 --> 1:15:52.519 I'm gonna still put myself out there. 1:15:53.160 --> 1:15:56.360 But my line is it's definitely. 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:58.200 Around women and children. Let me just put it that way. 1:15:58.640 --> 1:16:01.160 If I know that you have done something to really 1:16:01.280 --> 1:16:06.760 harm a woman and or a child, I'm going to 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:13.040 be much more careful. And I'm also considering, as I'm 1:16:13.080 --> 1:16:16.599 mulling this over, that if you took the life of 1:16:16.640 --> 1:16:21.960 somebody else's child, they son, daughter, or whomever, I. 1:16:21.920 --> 1:16:24.360 Don't know, I don't know. I agree with you. 1:16:24.760 --> 1:16:26.080 I agree with you. 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:28.880 You know, if you stole something, I'm with you because 1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:30.719 I get it, you know, and I know it's wrong, 1:16:30.800 --> 1:16:33.800 and I will tell you all of that. I'm with 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:36.200 you if you did you know some of these things. 1:16:36.280 --> 1:16:38.120 But when you start talking about. 1:16:37.800 --> 1:16:42.400 People's children, I get real sensitive around that area. 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:44.519 And so that's something I need to work through. And 1:16:44.520 --> 1:16:47.880 I think all of us have the right to decide 1:16:48.400 --> 1:16:52.040 what you are willing to stand behind. Because my name 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:54.840 is all I have. So when I put my name 1:16:54.920 --> 1:16:58.120 on something, and by the way, by the way, I 1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:01.200 have to accept the fact because to my son's point, 1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:03.360 if I choose, then I'm gonna stand with you. I 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:05.599 know you may have killed somebody, you did something, and 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:08.639 now it's been twenty years or fifteen years or five years, 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:10.600 and I see the growth and you know whatever, and 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:11.600 I want to stand by you. 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:12.600 Pool I'm with that. 1:17:12.640 --> 1:17:16.799 I've done it many times for many brothers, especially many brothers, 1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:20.960 trying to support them in their journey towards redemption. But 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.200 I need to be prepared to put that shit on 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:24.680 my own social media. 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:27.960 I don't need to be like, oh I didn't know that. 1:17:28.040 --> 1:17:31.760 The judge will oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you gotta 1:17:31.800 --> 1:17:34.240 be willing to stand ten toes down on whatever you say, 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:36.479 because your name is your name, and if you write 1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:40.160 your name on something, then you are saying I am 1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:43.479 with whatever this person, not what they did for who 1:17:43.520 --> 1:17:43.880 they are. 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:47.080 That's right, that's right, And the crisis manager and me 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:49.240 will offer that free tip if you are in public 1:17:49.280 --> 1:17:52.000 life at all, any single thing you do, be prepared 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.120 for that thing to be on the front page of 1:17:54.240 --> 1:17:57.120 everything the next day. And if you're still okay with 1:17:57.280 --> 1:18:01.600 doing it, proceed otherwise. Govern yourself accordingly. 1:18:03.240 --> 1:18:06.160 Well, we love you, mo, and you know, as usual, 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:11.000 you've given us perspectives, brilliant perspectives, and we're gonna mulle 1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:14.080 it over, you know, and take it and hopefully we 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:16.920 our people will get it, you know, because when we 1:18:16.960 --> 1:18:18.960 go through we did, like we're dealing with times right, 1:18:19.080 --> 1:18:22.519 like a lot of there's a lot of just black people, 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.240 leaders and everything who are scared right now, Like we 1:18:25.320 --> 1:18:28.040 got a we got a person who's got forty something 1:18:28.400 --> 1:18:31.559 fucking federal charges that could actually get voted than this president, 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:34.200 like it has an opportunity like this, this is some 1:18:34.280 --> 1:18:35.720 shit that's never been heard of. 1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:38.120 So what is it we're looking at what does that 1:18:38.160 --> 1:18:41.839 actually mean? Like, what does that actually mean for our future? 1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:45.200 So, you know, I'm hoping that people take, you know, 1:18:45.400 --> 1:18:47.800 pay a lot more attention, listen to things you're saying. 1:18:48.120 --> 1:18:52.000 We start utilizing these same platforms to properly educate our 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:55.840 people about what's going on, you know, and give the 1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:59.080 voices to those who actually know, you know, give them 1:18:59.120 --> 1:19:01.800 platforms and a voice to those who actually know to 1:19:01.920 --> 1:19:03.400 spread words, you know. 1:19:03.520 --> 1:19:06.280 And that's why it's so important that money goes on 1:19:06.960 --> 1:19:09.439 like Fox News, because I've had friends tell me I'm 1:19:09.439 --> 1:19:10.880 not doing Fox News. 1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:13.080 Nah, but a lot of times. And I used to 1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:14.120 do Fox News all the time. 1:19:14.160 --> 1:19:16.519 By the way, when I used to work at National 1:19:16.600 --> 1:19:18.719 Action Network, I was on all the time. They don't 1:19:18.720 --> 1:19:21.120 invite me anymore. And I'm not going to like go 1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:24.599 pitch myself if they call, though I don't. I wouldn't. 1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:28.040 But it has become a gotcha space. When I used 1:19:28.040 --> 1:19:32.479 to on years ago, fifteen years ago, you could actually 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:37.040 have a conversation with Sean Hannity. Nowadays, it's now like 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:41.040 you know, they you know, it's a different environment. So 1:19:41.120 --> 1:19:43.599 I get why people are saying they don't mess with it. 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:48.800 But I think to my son's point, right, you need 1:19:48.840 --> 1:19:51.640 to be in the same places where the misinformation is 1:19:51.640 --> 1:19:52.280 being spread. 1:19:53.160 --> 1:19:54.960 Yeah, and we need to support our people who are 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:57.800 trying to put the right information out there too, which 1:19:57.880 --> 1:20:00.759 shameless plug. We do this every day day through Friday 1:20:01.000 --> 1:20:03.760 noon on Make It Make Sense. Please join me on 1:20:03.800 --> 1:20:05.920 IG and on YouTube and I'm going to leave and 1:20:05.960 --> 1:20:09.439 actually go do a recording now with an administration official. 1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:12.599 But black media is working hard to try to get 1:20:12.600 --> 1:20:14.320 the right message out there, and I agree with you. 1:20:14.360 --> 1:20:16.360 We need to be in those other spaces too, as 1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:18.639 long as they're not just pimping us, because that's why 1:20:18.680 --> 1:20:21.400 I stopped, because they were just trying to They were 1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:24.320 using me for clicks and then by the time you know, 1:20:24.400 --> 1:20:27.160 it actually comes out, it's like a SoundBite. I ain't 1:20:27.200 --> 1:20:27.880 doing that no more. 1:20:29.400 --> 1:20:32.880 Got Well, we love you, We appreciate you. Continue to 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:33.400 be great. 1:20:33.880 --> 1:20:38.440 Make It Make Sense with Money Presley on Instagram and YouTube, 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:40.120 tell them what you where to. 1:20:40.120 --> 1:20:44.759 Follow you a moment at Money Presley Everywhere, Monique Presley 1:20:44.800 --> 1:20:53.599 TV on YouTube. Got You I amis. 1:20:56.120 --> 1:21:00.720 Shout out to Monique Presley man always coming with word, 1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:05.640 educated and formed, strong, passionate, you know, and she know 1:21:05.760 --> 1:21:08.599 her shit. You know, she know what she'd be talking about, 1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:10.439 So shout out to her. Make sure y'all follow her, 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:15.280 follow her show on YouTube and on Instagram at Monique 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:19.040 Presley on all forms of media. 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:23.960 So we've come to my I don't get it. 1:21:29.280 --> 1:21:33.280 Last week, like during the weekend, I posted about a 1:21:33.320 --> 1:21:36.680 young lady who allegedly. 1:21:36.280 --> 1:21:39.200 Was hit with the brick in the face. She posted 1:21:39.200 --> 1:21:40.120 a video first. 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:42.920 The first video I saw was from a hospital room 1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:45.880 and she was explaining how she was hitting the face 1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:48.160 of the brick because she didn't want to give a 1:21:48.200 --> 1:21:51.040 guy a number. She was hysterical, she was crying and 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:56.559 face was swollen, so obviously I assumed that this had happened. 1:21:57.400 --> 1:22:01.040 Then I seen another video, actually from the scene of 1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:04.240 where it happened, her taking a video of herself talking 1:22:04.240 --> 1:22:06.360 to a man saying, I was hitting the face of 1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:09.760 the brick and these black men just stood around and 1:22:09.800 --> 1:22:12.280 did nothing. And in the background you can hear the 1:22:12.320 --> 1:22:14.559 black men saying, well, what were. 1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:15.280 We supposed to do? 1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:15.920 Like? 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:18.120 What are we supposed to do? Like? You know, and then 1:22:18.160 --> 1:22:19.680 she was like, you're supposed to be a man, You're 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:22.400 supposed to be a man. So that was sound by 1:22:22.439 --> 1:22:25.639 a guy. And then after that there was another man. 1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:29.200 Who said that he was actually physically there, you know, 1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:33.160 and his point was he was trying to justify why 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:35.680 he did nothing. You know, he said, yeah, she was 1:22:35.760 --> 1:22:38.679 hit with the brick, but you know she was asking 1:22:38.800 --> 1:22:39.200 for it. 1:22:39.479 --> 1:22:40.280 She was loud. 1:22:40.640 --> 1:22:42.519 You know, if you go to Instagram, you see her 1:22:42.720 --> 1:22:45.400 always talking this and that. You know, I'm not protecting, 1:22:45.479 --> 1:22:47.960 I'm not getting involved in none of that. You know, 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:51.920 she pretty much brought it or herself, you know. And 1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:56.040 my response to the whole situation in general was, you know, 1:22:56.160 --> 1:22:58.920 as a black man, I was ashamed that black men 1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:02.719 would either participate by hitting the woman with the brick 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:08.080 in the face before not talking to us, and then 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:10.599 you know, try to justify it, or sit there and 1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:13.240 watch and not try to intervene, or try, you know, 1:23:13.600 --> 1:23:17.920 even to just interject and try to stop her from 1:23:17.920 --> 1:23:20.160 being hit. I'm not saying everybody's supposed to fight. We 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:23.240 don't be the toughest person, don't risk your life, don't 1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:25.800 go out and fight and shoot someone. I'm not saying 1:23:25.800 --> 1:23:28.040 none of that. I'm saying, as a man of good 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:32.000 moral content, if you've seen a woman about the conscious, 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:35.120 my fault good and moral conscious. If you've seen a 1:23:35.200 --> 1:23:39.840 man about to hit a woman in the brick something innately, 1:23:39.920 --> 1:23:42.599 and you should say, hey, calm down, brother, let's stop. 1:23:42.640 --> 1:23:45.120 You just just think about it, relaxed. I know you frustrated, 1:23:45.439 --> 1:23:47.880 but just to try to de escalate the situation. 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:48.200 You know. 1:23:48.800 --> 1:23:52.479 So I say, any man who wouldn't do that, it's 1:23:52.520 --> 1:23:54.759 a conrad. And any man who would hit a woman 1:23:54.880 --> 1:23:58.080 in the face with a brick is a cow, you know. So, 1:23:58.600 --> 1:24:02.920 as of late, there's there's been some discoveries on different 1:24:02.920 --> 1:24:07.560 YouTube pages that shows that there's a possibility, strong possibility, 1:24:07.920 --> 1:24:11.320 that this woman created a whole hoax in order to 1:24:11.520 --> 1:24:14.760 raise money for a go fundme. Her go fund me 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:18.800 is now up to about forty thousand dallars. She has 1:24:18.840 --> 1:24:23.240 two different go Fundme pages now up to about forty 1:24:23.280 --> 1:24:28.400 thousand dollars. And there's been different people supposedly quote unquote 1:24:28.400 --> 1:24:30.479 because now you don't know who's what, supposedly one of 1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:32.960 her friends, you know, who would supporting her. They have 1:24:33.600 --> 1:24:36.879 showed that she's in pictures with her, they hang out together. 1:24:37.320 --> 1:24:39.240 It's saying that you know, this is probably about the 1:24:39.240 --> 1:24:41.240 third or fourth time she's done this, and she didn't 1:24:41.240 --> 1:24:43.479 want to say anything because she didn't want people to 1:24:43.520 --> 1:24:46.360 come at her, So she figured people would eventually find 1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:48.679 out their pictures with her. 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:54.120 With similar a similar swollen. 1:24:53.680 --> 1:25:00.320 Face and it's supposedly attributed to allergic reaction and that 1:25:00.360 --> 1:25:03.559 she's had. They also have a picture of her moments 1:25:03.600 --> 1:25:07.360 before inside of the club with a full mask on 1:25:07.400 --> 1:25:09.080 her face in black mass all you can see is 1:25:09.080 --> 1:25:13.280 her eyes or they show her that I think it 1:25:13.320 --> 1:25:17.599 comes from her page these that she actually has tape 1:25:17.680 --> 1:25:18.880 or took videos herself. 1:25:19.680 --> 1:25:21.720 Then they interviewed a. 1:25:21.640 --> 1:25:24.360 Couple of the guys who you see in the video 1:25:24.479 --> 1:25:26.760 in the background where she's saying that they were watching her, 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:30.080 and they saying they actually never seen her get hit 1:25:30.120 --> 1:25:32.680 with her break. They just seen her come and they 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:34.200 was trying to help her, like yo. They were trying 1:25:34.200 --> 1:25:36.040 to get the police. She didn't want to make a 1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:39.559 police report, and she drove off before when they went 1:25:39.640 --> 1:25:40.320 to get the police. 1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:42.400 She left before the police got there. 1:25:42.720 --> 1:25:45.760 Then they're saying that she went to a clinic, and 1:25:46.200 --> 1:25:49.000 the clinic the people at the clinic stated that she 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:51.880 never came there for injuries that she said it was 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:56.799 either allergic reaction or she had celine. She puts saline 1:25:56.840 --> 1:25:59.800 into this. So there's so many different things that lead 1:25:59.880 --> 1:26:03.320 and then you know she's just pretty much disappeared. 1:26:03.800 --> 1:26:07.680 And you see that she's asked for money on. 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:12.160 Numerous occasions for medical you know, bills, she never identified, 1:26:12.160 --> 1:26:14.519 the god didn't make the police support the people at 1:26:14.520 --> 1:26:16.400 the clinic say, she never said that she was here. 1:26:16.439 --> 1:26:19.160 There's all types of things that leads to us to 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:22.880 believe that there's a strong possibility that she might have 1:26:22.920 --> 1:26:28.320 did this hoax to raise money. What I don't get, right, 1:26:28.840 --> 1:26:31.400 the point of me that I don't get is people 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:34.760 telling me that I should apologize, And first of all, 1:26:34.800 --> 1:26:37.679 I would like to know who and what I should 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:41.160 apologize for. First, who should I apologize too? And what 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:42.360 should I apologize for? 1:26:42.840 --> 1:26:45.160 Right? And I should hold women accountable. 1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:47.639 First of all, I'm not a woman, right, but if 1:26:47.640 --> 1:26:51.519 this woman did something and she scammed people, she should 1:26:51.520 --> 1:26:52.400 be held accountable. 1:26:52.800 --> 1:26:54.160 You know, it's wrong we're dealing with. 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:58.040 We're in a time when black women are always being abused. 1:26:58.320 --> 1:27:01.360 There are so many just like the Carlie Russell. 1:27:01.640 --> 1:27:04.599 I do not condone any woman that will utilize their 1:27:04.640 --> 1:27:08.439 platform with voice to you know, to lie to get 1:27:08.439 --> 1:27:11.400 gone attention. I do not support any woman who would 1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:14.240 lie on black men, you know, especially in times when 1:27:14.240 --> 1:27:16.559 we're trying to be united, lie on black men and 1:27:16.600 --> 1:27:19.040 cause some level of division and make it seem as 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:22.280 black men did something to Harmer. I do not condone that, 1:27:22.840 --> 1:27:25.800 you know, and never will you know. And I think 1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:28.439 she should be held accountable. I think everybody who gave 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:31.639 her money, you know, if it's found out that she lied, 1:27:31.880 --> 1:27:34.240 and we should figure out what is the process to 1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:37.360 get your money back first of all, and then prevent 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:38.080 things like this. 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:42.080 From happening again. But I will not apologize for. 1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:45.439 Being a man and stating that a woman should not 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:47.920 be hitting the face of the brick. I will not 1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:51.759 apologize for being a man and stating that any man 1:27:51.880 --> 1:27:53.880 that would sit around and watch a woman hitting the 1:27:53.920 --> 1:27:58.280 face of the brick and not do anything verbally, physically, 1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:02.280 anything to try to stop or try to, you know, 1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:08.160 disengage that situation from happening, is a coward. I will 1:28:08.240 --> 1:28:10.400 not apologize for those states. 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:11.240 I will not. 1:28:11.200 --> 1:28:15.479 Apologize for me standing up for women. I'm not gonna 1:28:15.479 --> 1:28:18.439 be I'm not gonna apologize. I will continue to be 1:28:18.680 --> 1:28:21.320 quote unquote as simple whatever y'all want to call me, 1:28:21.400 --> 1:28:24.080 I'll take on that, but I have no reason to 1:28:24.160 --> 1:28:25.960 apologize for that stance. 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:28.120 And the main arguments that I. 1:28:28.120 --> 1:28:30.920 Had with people were not that people that came to 1:28:31.080 --> 1:28:33.559 nobody came to my package said Yo, she's lying, this 1:28:33.560 --> 1:28:36.240 didn't happen, and me and that person got into an argument, 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.840 and I called him a coward because he didn't believe 1:28:38.880 --> 1:28:39.439 it happened. 1:28:39.640 --> 1:28:42.479 Those people were and people are engaged. The people are engaged. 1:28:42.520 --> 1:28:44.879 Were the people who told me that, well, she shouldn't 1:28:44.880 --> 1:28:47.360 have said this, or she shouldn't have did this, or 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:49.080 you know, I looked at her page and she talked 1:28:49.080 --> 1:28:50.840 too much. She don't need a black man, so no 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:54.760 man should protect him. I will not apologize for saying 1:28:54.760 --> 1:28:57.840 if any man that had that position to me was 1:28:58.200 --> 1:28:59.439 had a cowardy position. 1:29:00.000 --> 1:29:03.720 You understand I'm saying. I did not discredit any man. 1:29:03.920 --> 1:29:07.360 Who didn't believe that the situation happened because that's his perspective. 1:29:07.840 --> 1:29:10.200 But I think as men in our society, especially as 1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:14.080 black men, we should never be okay with watching other 1:29:14.160 --> 1:29:17.200 men beat on black women. And I'm not gonna apologize 1:29:17.200 --> 1:29:19.720 for that. So if somebody's looking for apology for me, 1:29:19.840 --> 1:29:22.280 for that, then they are looking for the wrong thing 1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:26.160 from the wrong person. What I will say is we 1:29:26.320 --> 1:29:29.800 need to be careful, right black men, black women, But 1:29:29.880 --> 1:29:32.439 in this case, black women, we have to be careful. 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:33.080 Right. 1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:36.560 We have to be careful because you wanted to utilize 1:29:37.000 --> 1:29:43.080 this platform and utilize your voice to cause false alarms. Right, 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:45.120 they are really black women are being harmed out here. 1:29:45.120 --> 1:29:47.360 They are really Black women who are being beat and 1:29:47.400 --> 1:29:51.920 destroyed and harmed and physically beat and abused. And every 1:29:51.960 --> 1:29:54.920 time that you do this, it's harder for us, the 1:29:54.960 --> 1:29:58.960 ones who want to protect you to fight. And we 1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:02.120 already fighting agains the Black women's already the most disrespected 1:30:02.120 --> 1:30:06.400 and unprotected being on this earth. It makes it harder. 1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:09.720 I'm not going to stop standing up, but I want 1:30:09.720 --> 1:30:13.000 you to understand that you give you give some level 1:30:13.080 --> 1:30:16.320 of credence to voices who want to discredit the Black 1:30:16.360 --> 1:30:20.320 women's clean You give credence to those you know. So 1:30:20.680 --> 1:30:23.600 I'm I'm not against anyone who's calling this woman now. 1:30:23.680 --> 1:30:26.519 I'm not against anyone who's telling us how damage that 1:30:26.600 --> 1:30:28.120 she is or utilizing their platform. 1:30:28.120 --> 1:30:30.639 I'm not against any of that. But my job as a. 1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:33.000 Black man is to pull up black men and call 1:30:33.080 --> 1:30:35.080 out black men and tell black men what we should 1:30:35.080 --> 1:30:38.360 be doing. You know, I believe that situations like that 1:30:38.560 --> 1:30:41.280 it's harder for them to happen when we standing on 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:43.680 our square as we're supposed to, you know. But when 1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:46.200 you got a million men in my inside of my 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:50.439 my my comments saying well, she deserves it, and only 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:52.840 only certain type of women is supposed to be protected, 1:30:53.120 --> 1:30:55.880 and if she ain't moving a certain way, then you know, 1:30:56.000 --> 1:30:58.920 fuck it. I ain't stopping nobody. That's not my business. 1:30:59.000 --> 1:31:02.400 I gotta worry about my own, you know. When I 1:31:02.439 --> 1:31:05.320 see those type of things inside of my comments, you know, 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:07.479 that's where the problem is for me. 1:31:08.000 --> 1:31:08.240 You know. 1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:11.240 And when and when women, when women see that, they 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:14.000 feel like, damn, look how many men actually feel that way? 1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:16.840 Look coming? And this ain't have This has very little 1:31:16.880 --> 1:31:19.559 to do with this one incident, right. It has to 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:23.040 do with an overall mind state, because before you knew 1:31:23.479 --> 1:31:27.400 or believe that this woman came up with false allegations 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:30.280 for money, you believe that she got hit, but you 1:31:30.360 --> 1:31:32.519 tried to figure out the reason why it made sense 1:31:32.560 --> 1:31:34.760 that she got hit. And that's what we have to 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:36.559 point out. Let's not point on this war. 1:31:36.640 --> 1:31:40.560 Let's not use this isolated situation, you know, to completely 1:31:40.840 --> 1:31:43.840 come up with the total hypothesis of what we're dealing 1:31:43.880 --> 1:31:47.200 with as black in America, women, black women, and black 1:31:47.280 --> 1:31:50.400 men are dealing with. So once again, I don't understand 1:31:50.439 --> 1:31:52.760 what y'all want me to apologize for. I'm never going 1:31:52.800 --> 1:31:55.919 to apologize for saying that black women need to be protected. 1:31:56.240 --> 1:31:59.719 I'm not condoning anything this woman did. I don't condone 1:31:59.720 --> 1:32:01.800 nothing that Cary Russell did. I think they need to 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:05.320 deal with the consequences of those actions, with those actions 1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:08.679 that they did on them, I'm talking about black women 1:32:08.880 --> 1:32:12.320 and black men as a whole being united and taking care. 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:12.760 Of each other. 1:32:15.000 --> 1:32:19.080 I mean, I think, yeah, certainly, when there are these 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:25.679 types of incidents, they certainly furthers the lack of protection 1:32:25.800 --> 1:32:29.280 that we as black women feel. But by the way, 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:31.559 a lot of people, regardless of whether she was telling 1:32:31.600 --> 1:32:33.679 the truth or ling, they still ain't gonna do nothing. 1:32:34.720 --> 1:32:36.000 And in fact, some of them. 1:32:35.880 --> 1:32:39.400 Are the abuses, which is why they really don't want 1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:42.880 to why they really spend a lot of time behind 1:32:43.000 --> 1:32:45.240 fake profiles trying to make the case. 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:47.120 Of why a women deserve x y Z. 1:32:47.400 --> 1:32:51.880 So that's one thing I think also though, that when 1:32:51.920 --> 1:32:58.200 you are a trying to be a voice and you're 1:32:58.280 --> 1:33:02.200 trying to work in certain areas, you have passion, and 1:33:02.280 --> 1:33:05.360 you have a public profile, and you're speaking on whatever 1:33:05.560 --> 1:33:08.479 different issues, you're not always going to be right. 1:33:08.960 --> 1:33:10.800 That's just life like. 1:33:11.160 --> 1:33:14.599 There's going to be a percentage of cases that we 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:17.839 work on that we learn details as we go along 1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:20.760 that if we had known in the beginning, we might 1:33:20.800 --> 1:33:23.000 not have continued to engage. We may have done it 1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:27.920 with more caution, We may have said different things. We 1:33:28.000 --> 1:33:32.400 may have even wanted those those issues to come forward 1:33:32.560 --> 1:33:34.719 early so that they wouldn't come later. And I always 1:33:34.760 --> 1:33:39.360 say to people, more you tell me about whatever details 1:33:39.400 --> 1:33:42.719 has happening that night, when it's shooting took place or whatever. 1:33:42.880 --> 1:33:44.200 It's helpful because we could get. 1:33:44.120 --> 1:33:48.840 In front of people later on saying that we you know, 1:33:49.160 --> 1:33:53.120 we tried to hide things or suppress information for the 1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:56.320 good of our case, or you know, to talk bad 1:33:56.320 --> 1:33:59.599 about police or whatever. They say a lot of different things, 1:34:00.120 --> 1:34:03.519 So that is just what it is. It's not going 1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:06.800 to be one hundred proof. You're going to have instances 1:34:06.840 --> 1:34:10.800 in scenarios where you find out. But the thing is 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:15.559 even if and I'm just using this as an example 1:34:15.600 --> 1:34:19.479 because or two things as an example, right, two things 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:23.000 I can use as an example. Even if George Floyd 1:34:23.280 --> 1:34:26.360 did take a drug, had nothing to do with that 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:32.160 officer choking him to death. Even if Breonna Taylor's old 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:36.559 boyfriend was involved in a legal drug activity, had nothing 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:38.200 to do with them lying on the warrant to go 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:40.120 to a house and shooting them up in the middle 1:34:40.160 --> 1:34:42.839 of the night, or shooting her up and putting Kenny's 1:34:42.840 --> 1:34:44.880 life in danger in the middle of the night, had 1:34:44.880 --> 1:34:48.160 nothing to do with that, right, And so you can 1:34:48.280 --> 1:34:52.000 still support, as you said, your premise. Your premise can 1:34:52.080 --> 1:34:55.880 still be strong, it can be as it has made, 1:34:56.000 --> 1:34:56.800 as it has been. 1:34:57.479 --> 1:34:58.360 But then you can. 1:34:58.400 --> 1:35:02.960 Also make room for additional things that come into play, 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:09.719 as you know more. That's just life, what I will say, 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:12.439 as my one and I've been we talk about this 1:35:12.520 --> 1:35:16.080 all the time, and I notice it, and I also 1:35:16.160 --> 1:35:20.280 have many conversations with lately, I've been talking with Charlemagne 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:26.920 and Teslin in our personal group chat about this as well. 1:35:27.040 --> 1:35:31.200 The Internet is a very dangerous place. It's a very 1:35:31.320 --> 1:35:35.840 dangerous place. It lacks information, sometimes it lacks context. We 1:35:36.000 --> 1:35:39.680 just finished talking with Monique about how the way that 1:35:39.720 --> 1:35:45.320 people interpret stories, because I've seen I've literally watched people 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:47.960 tell stories about me or my life or what I'm 1:35:48.000 --> 1:35:52.720 doing or whatever, and it's completely not in line with 1:35:52.840 --> 1:35:55.280 who I really am or even what was going on 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:59.360 in that moment. But because they are loud, they get 1:35:59.400 --> 1:36:02.640 to tell their story and it's spread. So what I 1:36:02.680 --> 1:36:06.120 am now learning and what I have been focused on, 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:09.639 is that while there is a lot happening on the Internet, 1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:11.599 and it is a place that we all us go 1:36:12.040 --> 1:36:16.360 and know what the energy is, and this is where 1:36:16.400 --> 1:36:18.519 you learn about a lot of cases and people get 1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:21.960 to contact you and what have you, you really have 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:24.200 to be careful with how much of it you consume 1:36:24.760 --> 1:36:30.280 and how quick we are to respond to what we're seeing. Right, 1:36:30.600 --> 1:36:34.000 So I am in a lot of ways because we 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:38.640 have so much other work that's happening every day. And 1:36:38.120 --> 1:36:41.080 you obviously have so much other work. You got books, 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:43.599 I got books. It's all kinds of things going on. 1:36:44.160 --> 1:36:49.600 I am finding myself beginning to pull back from the 1:36:49.680 --> 1:36:55.840 Internet a lot more. I'm beginning to be less engaged with. 1:36:57.760 --> 1:37:01.920 Trying to quickly respond to things that I see. 1:37:02.600 --> 1:37:06.000 It's okay for me to let three or four days 1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:10.000 pass of a story until I'm able to watch the 1:37:10.200 --> 1:37:14.960 unpacking of it and then decide what I want to say, 1:37:15.240 --> 1:37:19.800 but more importantly, what I want to do right. And 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:23.720 so that's my suggestion to you is that you have 1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:26.840 to You're never going to be a hundred proof, hundred 1:37:26.960 --> 1:37:29.519 proof with any of these things. I'm not talking about 1:37:29.520 --> 1:37:31.559 an apology or whatever that's on you how you feel 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:33.479 you want to deal with it, but you're never going 1:37:33.560 --> 1:37:35.640 to be a hundred proof. But you do have to 1:37:35.720 --> 1:37:40.960 build guardrails because what you are, what you are experiencing 1:37:41.000 --> 1:37:45.120 in this moment right which you don't need a woman 1:37:45.160 --> 1:37:47.799 with a brick, whether she lying or telling the truth, 1:37:47.880 --> 1:37:51.000 to make the case about the protection of black women. 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:51.559 I get it. 1:37:52.200 --> 1:37:57.240 People learn more with imagery and examples that make them emotional, 1:37:57.280 --> 1:37:59.880 and then we have emotional connection to these issues because 1:37:59.880 --> 1:38:03.320 we believe if I see somebody being abused by a 1:38:03.320 --> 1:38:05.880 police officer, I saw a woman being choked to death 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:09.920 by a man in a beauty supply store, Oh that 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:12.599 makes me I get emotionally charged. That's the only way 1:38:12.600 --> 1:38:16.960 I can continue to do this work right. But I 1:38:17.000 --> 1:38:22.000 am in my as I grow in this movement. I'm 1:38:22.080 --> 1:38:25.679 realizing that it's okay to put a few days between 1:38:26.880 --> 1:38:29.240 me speaking on it. I don't have anything. I'm not 1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:31.960 in a rush because the problem is not going to 1:38:32.080 --> 1:38:35.760 just go away. And yeah, it's true that if you 1:38:35.880 --> 1:38:39.000 try to enter the chat three days later, people are like, 1:38:39.000 --> 1:38:41.200 what the hell you talking about? We've moved on, But 1:38:41.520 --> 1:38:43.519 more than likely folks are not going to move on 1:38:43.560 --> 1:38:45.240 from a woman being hit in the face by a 1:38:45.280 --> 1:38:49.120 brick or these other issues. So my thing, and I've 1:38:49.120 --> 1:38:51.400 been saying it. I've said it to myself, I've said 1:38:51.400 --> 1:38:54.080 it to you, and I will continue to say that 1:38:54.240 --> 1:38:57.360 the Internet is not the same place that it once was. 1:38:57.720 --> 1:39:00.360 And I know that a part of what we believe 1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:01.360 is like, well. 1:39:01.120 --> 1:39:02.679 We have to be the balance. 1:39:03.200 --> 1:39:07.320 But the thing is, you are one person that does 1:39:07.400 --> 1:39:12.080 not have the resources to send somebody to interview the people, 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:15.080 to go talk to the lady. You don't have that 1:39:15.240 --> 1:39:18.240 type of the resources to do that, so you have 1:39:18.360 --> 1:39:23.919 to use discernment. And the discernment, unfortunately, is if something 1:39:24.400 --> 1:39:28.560 this is what I have found, if something. 1:39:30.000 --> 1:39:31.360 Is serious enough. 1:39:31.920 --> 1:39:34.599 It'll find this way to you and give you an 1:39:34.640 --> 1:39:37.040 opportunity to do what you think needs to be done 1:39:37.040 --> 1:39:37.360 on it. 1:39:38.000 --> 1:39:41.839 But I am removing. 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:45.559 Myself as much as possible from and not to say 1:39:45.600 --> 1:39:47.800 I don't won't do it sometimes or whatever, but I'm 1:39:47.880 --> 1:39:53.320 removing myself as much as possible from the need to 1:39:53.479 --> 1:39:57.559 respond quickly to everything that I see, or to even 1:39:57.600 --> 1:39:59.599 some of the things that I see. And now I'm 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.200 beginning to take the time to listen, learn, read, and 1:40:03.400 --> 1:40:08.400 understand more so that I can slow down or reduce 1:40:08.880 --> 1:40:15.120 the number of mistakes and or false representations or whatever, Carli. 1:40:15.479 --> 1:40:21.600 But then again to the point Carl Russell, right, you 1:40:21.680 --> 1:40:24.200 only got seventy two hours when somebody's missing, so you 1:40:24.240 --> 1:40:27.679 can't wait three days. But I even still waited twenty 1:40:27.680 --> 1:40:30.280 four hours, and then I could still be wrong, you 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:31.080 see what I'm saying. 1:40:31.120 --> 1:40:32.439 So I could still. 1:40:32.280 --> 1:40:34.080 Be wrong, or not so much that I was wrong, 1:40:34.080 --> 1:40:36.200 because I wasn't wrong at all. It's nobody like you said, 1:40:36.200 --> 1:40:39.200 this is nobody apologized to because that's on Carly. 1:40:39.479 --> 1:40:40.240 It's not on me. 1:40:40.800 --> 1:40:43.479 I did what I thought was right based upon the 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:47.320 information that I had, and it's a short window to 1:40:47.439 --> 1:40:50.000 make the statement. But I think that there has to 1:40:50.040 --> 1:40:53.800 be a balance, and one of the balances is recognizing 1:40:53.840 --> 1:40:56.080 that the Internet has become such successful. 1:40:56.760 --> 1:40:57.719 We got it. 1:40:57.840 --> 1:41:01.080 By the time I spoke on Carli Russell. It wasn't 1:41:01.120 --> 1:41:03.679 just because the Internet was telling me to which they were. 1:41:03.960 --> 1:41:06.880 It was because Star Jones and other people were calling 1:41:06.920 --> 1:41:08.320 me saying they spoke to her mother. 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:10.120 But that's my advice. 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:13.040 No, it's good advice, and you know, and we live 1:41:13.080 --> 1:41:16.599 and we learned, and I just think for me, black 1:41:16.640 --> 1:41:21.160 women being hitting their face is imminent. Danger is immediate, right, 1:41:21.400 --> 1:41:25.280 It's like and just the way that I spoke on 1:41:25.360 --> 1:41:27.800 it was just based on the situation. 1:41:27.360 --> 1:41:27.920 That it happened. 1:41:27.960 --> 1:41:30.080 It wasn't just oh, I was hitting the face of 1:41:30.120 --> 1:41:32.559 the brick, boomom boom, boh. It was the fact that 1:41:32.600 --> 1:41:35.920 there were other men there, right, and there were so 1:41:35.960 --> 1:41:38.080 many people that was coming and making it seem like 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:43.120 it was justifiable. So even the situation itself to me 1:41:43.680 --> 1:41:45.160 was triggering because it's like. 1:41:45.080 --> 1:41:47.640 What do you mean, what does she do? What do 1:41:47.680 --> 1:41:48.080 you mean? 1:41:48.600 --> 1:41:50.639 You know, I need more context if she got hitting 1:41:50.640 --> 1:41:53.840 the brick, I want to understand why, right, That in 1:41:53.880 --> 1:41:57.160 itself was triggering to me. And I actually took two 1:41:57.240 --> 1:42:00.479 days because I was getting overflooded with it. For days, 1:42:00.520 --> 1:42:03.200 I never commented on it, you know, so when it 1:42:03.240 --> 1:42:05.720 originally happened, I never said anything about it. So I 1:42:05.760 --> 1:42:08.800 took two days and I think, you know, just just 1:42:08.880 --> 1:42:12.320 moving forward, you know, I don't. I think when I 1:42:12.439 --> 1:42:16.080 comment on the situation, it's going to be more. 1:42:17.600 --> 1:42:19.519 It's something that the. 1:42:19.520 --> 1:42:24.519 Issue rather than the particular thing, unless it's something that 1:42:24.600 --> 1:42:28.080 particularly the particular thing needs us a call to action, 1:42:28.760 --> 1:42:31.160 you know what I'm saying. The issue around what happened 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:33.360 to the women was, you know, the mind state of 1:42:33.439 --> 1:42:36.639 black men around what was supposedly happened to the woman 1:42:37.000 --> 1:42:40.080 was detrimental to me that I was focusing on and 1:42:39.479 --> 1:42:42.559 I and my goal now is to focus on black men. 1:42:43.080 --> 1:42:45.000 Right. I'm doing Raisin Kings. 1:42:45.040 --> 1:42:48.120 I got a book called Raising Kings, Twelve Principles of Manhood, 1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:51.600 you know. I got an organization boycott black murder. I 1:42:51.640 --> 1:42:55.320 got you know, ending calviculture. It's really me focusing on 1:42:55.840 --> 1:42:59.519 understanding that when men get back to their natural you know, 1:43:00.320 --> 1:43:03.719 in society, then everything else will be fine. The women 1:43:03.760 --> 1:43:05.360 that were talking about they need to do this with 1:43:05.520 --> 1:43:07.600 men's women start seeing men move in. 1:43:07.640 --> 1:43:08.280 The proper right. 1:43:08.640 --> 1:43:11.000 Women know that they're protected, that they got people that 1:43:11.040 --> 1:43:13.200 they could trust. All these things, and we're doing the 1:43:13.240 --> 1:43:15.760 shit as we do. I think women go back to 1:43:15.800 --> 1:43:19.920 their natural you know, as being leaders of society, but 1:43:20.040 --> 1:43:22.479 understanding that we work in unison and not saying I 1:43:22.520 --> 1:43:24.080 don't need this and I don't need a man, and 1:43:24.439 --> 1:43:27.080 we don't get into this, you know, this gender shit. 1:43:27.439 --> 1:43:31.080 So my thing is I focus on men. I'm not 1:43:31.200 --> 1:43:33.360 focusing on women because I've never been a woman in 1:43:33.360 --> 1:43:36.120 my life. I don't know the mentality of a woman. 1:43:36.200 --> 1:43:40.120 I don't know the physical you know, women feel every day, 1:43:40.200 --> 1:43:43.240 how they emotionally attach or But I've been a man 1:43:43.320 --> 1:43:46.759 every day and I've been around men of strong caliber 1:43:46.800 --> 1:43:52.040 and strong you know, moral compasses a lot of my life. 1:43:52.320 --> 1:43:54.600 So I know how to speak to that, and I 1:43:54.640 --> 1:43:56.559 know how to speak to those who have that. 1:43:56.439 --> 1:43:58.720 Inside of them. So that's what my focus is. 1:43:58.760 --> 1:44:00.799 Everybody got something to focus if you go to school, 1:44:01.120 --> 1:44:02.519 is one teacher teach history. 1:44:02.800 --> 1:44:05.640 One people teachers teach this. They teach that. 1:44:06.120 --> 1:44:11.400 My My subject is men in manhood, and I'm going 1:44:11.439 --> 1:44:13.840 to focus on that. So everyone, I want you to 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:16.000 call out women, I'm not That's not really my job. 1:44:16.360 --> 1:44:18.840 I learned that by being around strong women that me 1:44:18.960 --> 1:44:22.080 trying to man explain a woman into what she needs 1:44:22.080 --> 1:44:23.360 to be doing as a man. 1:44:23.560 --> 1:44:24.200 It don't work. 1:44:24.520 --> 1:44:27.280 It actually just caused further division when I focus on me, 1:44:27.920 --> 1:44:30.160 and then it makes them want to focus on them. 1:44:30.200 --> 1:44:32.080 It makes women say, you know what, I see, the 1:44:32.160 --> 1:44:34.479 men are over here focusing on them. Let us get 1:44:34.479 --> 1:44:37.120 out with shit together so that we're on the same page. 1:44:38.880 --> 1:44:41.400 Okay, Well, I mean I like the fact that you've 1:44:41.400 --> 1:44:44.519 said where you see you could do something different, which 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:46.720 is to talk about the issue, because I think you 1:44:46.800 --> 1:44:48.880 were saying when they were trying to tell you that 1:44:49.160 --> 1:44:52.280 she makes skips, you shown like this is a different shirt, 1:44:52.720 --> 1:44:54.760 and to your point, like there's no reason to even 1:44:54.800 --> 1:44:56.840 get into that because you don't know whether she's telling 1:44:56.880 --> 1:44:58.800 the youth or not. You could say, it doesn't matter 1:44:58.800 --> 1:44:59.479 what she's telling you. 1:44:59.560 --> 1:45:03.560 Let's talk about the scenario, right, So I think you 1:45:03.600 --> 1:45:06.200 know and it's not an easy thing to figure out. 1:45:06.240 --> 1:45:10.280 My So, I think you're doing the right thing by recognizing, Okay, 1:45:10.320 --> 1:45:12.479 this is what I could do different, but there's really not. 1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:14.920 You can never apologize for standing up. 1:45:14.800 --> 1:45:15.120 For what you. 1:45:16.640 --> 1:45:17.200 Not at all. 1:45:17.320 --> 1:45:19.840 And with that said brings us to the end of 1:45:19.880 --> 1:45:24.000 another Street Politicians episode. We appreciate all our followers, all 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:27.720 our supporters. 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