1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. Welcome to moving sticks, DJ, Bucky Rhet 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: with you on what is going to be a rookie Wednesday. Boys. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna uh, we're going to dive into here some 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: of these rookies and some of the good stuff we've 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: seen from them. And uh, we'll start things off though 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: with the rookie draft. We do this each and every 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: week we have a draft. You get a running back 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: or receiver, tight end. We don't have enough freaking quarterbacks. 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Include them in the mix. It's kind of like a 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: standard uh fantasy scorings. How we we score it and 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: then we keep keep the results. Last week, guys, I 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: don't think it's an US problem. I think it's a 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: rookie problem. It wasn't great. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: If we recall last week my selections, I had, uh, 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: I had Hampton, I had oh, I had I had 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: to Tedoro McMillan at receiver. I had Harold Fannon who 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: did a nice did a nice job. Bucky had Genty 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: Buca and Loveland Loveland man nothing zero and then Rhet 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: goes Henderson Hunter at receiver. And then and then Warren, 22 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: who's been a stud I mean, I guess yeah, but 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: I mean before we get to the rookie draft, Rhett 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: is is Tyler Warren the offensive rookie of the year 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: right now. 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean through two weeks, no question. I mean, just 27 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: you look at production. I mean, he's he is. You know, 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: essentially this has the second most receiving yards of any rookie, 29 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: behind only McMillan, and it's by like thirteen yards. Now 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: Buka is scoring touchdowns, so like that's that that's another 31 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: thing to consider here. But I'd say Abuka is up there, 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: and uh, it's it's kind of a three man race 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: right there between at Buka Tterorro and McMillan and Tyler Warren. 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: You know what's kind of sneaky though, Dylan Samson is 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: putting up points on that, not as a runner but 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: as a receiver. Wonder what the impact of Quinchhn Judkins coming. 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: I don't think you're seeing Judkins catching a ton of passes, 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: but maybe if that's if that steals some of the 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: some of the thunder from from Sampson in this game, 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: but in this game plan, but that's kind of encouraging. 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: If you're the Browns. 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: Trying to look for signs of life. I like that. 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: I like that, And uh, last week, point wise, we 44 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: all we're all nodded up three way tie. So as 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: we look at the season standings right now, I've I've 46 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: got ten points, buckying red at seven. So there's no 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: no real separation there. All right, RTT go ahead and 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: lead us off. 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you just got to get yourself a guaranteed 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: three points here with your first pick. And so I'm 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: going Tyler Warren for the third straight week. He is 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: going to be a member of my squad. Lock it up, 53 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Colts tight end, getting after it once again. By the way, 54 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: that team in the Colts is not punted yet. Just 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: keeping that, keeping that in perspective. 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: I had that. I knew that was going to happen 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: this year. I pretty this offense. They're not punting the ball. 58 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: There's no chance. All right, here we go. Let's go 59 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Tyler Warren. I gotta go, I gotta go, genty. I'm 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: gonna stay chalk here. Pete Carroll said after the game. 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: They want to give him more touches, more carries, so 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna lean into that and take Ash 63 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: and Genty doubling. 64 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am doubling up right now, and I'm torn. 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go with 66 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: Tror McMillan as a worldwide receiver and then let's see 67 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: tight end wise, at some point, we got to do 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: something for the Browns. Yeah, Harrold Fannin did nothing for 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: you last week? 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: No, he was solid, Harrold Finnon solid week. Well, we 71 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: can go with. 72 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: Him because we have no choice, and then I have 73 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: to figure out a running back on the back end. 74 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 3: Harold Finn Welcome, Welcome to Buck. 75 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: You had five for forty eight last week. That's what 76 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean when this is the way that this rookie 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: group's going right now, that's a that's a win. H 78 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: So back to you, right, Mary fan you double up? 79 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: What was the other one? So, Harold fann who's the 80 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: other one? 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Buck Mac? 82 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? T Mac? 83 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 84 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: All right. So I've got Warren or sorry, I've got Genty. 85 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Warren's gone, uh Bannon, I don't need a tight end. 86 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: I can hold off on that. Yeah. So receiver wise, yeah, 87 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I have a choice. I 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: got I go a buka dang it do. How do 89 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: you not go Buka here? 90 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Dang it? 91 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: Okay, right, all right, we'll finish it up. You can 92 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 2: finish your picks up here. Here you go. Yep, yep, yep, yep. 93 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 1: We'll do that here. Let's do this. Let's go elk 94 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: a o manor wow sand for Titans. Let's get him 95 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: into the get him into the mix here a little 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: bit and then gosh from the running back. I mean, 97 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: like no Eckler like, we gotta go j C. M 98 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: here for the running back. I they've got to give him. 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: They have got to give him the right. 100 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: This dude over here to take him. 101 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: They've got to It's time. 102 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go. Let's see who do I 103 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: want here? Tight end wise? Man? Is love one ever 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: gonna do anything? What are we doing? Mason? Taylor is 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: an option? I've got a royo. Yeah, yeah, it's let's 106 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: see where he where he is at. He's got three 107 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: catches for thirty eight yards this year. 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: It's tough. 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 2: It's tough. Gunner Helm's three for twenty five. I could go, 110 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: I could go double up on Titans. I don't know that. 111 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: I love that motive right now, Golly, Mason, Taylor has 112 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: two for twenty five for two games, Colston leveland has 113 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: two catches for twelve yards. For the love of guy, 114 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: let's get him the ball. I'm gonna go. Yeah, We're 115 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: gonna bring it. Okay, all right, they somehow handle that. 116 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: All right. 117 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna take a long term strategy and I'm 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: gonna just take a blue like a blue chip prospect. 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Mario Hampton. I'm just gonna believe it. 120 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: At some point he's gonna get his opportunity. We can 121 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: give him the rock. We're gonna stay true to form. 122 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: Amaron Hampton. 123 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: I'm on down, okay, right, I'm gonna do a I'm 124 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: gonna do a little exercise here. I'm gonna send you guys. 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: I was down on the sideline before the game, just 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: zoom in, zoom in real quick on this picture that 127 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: I just took. I felt kind of weird doing it, 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: but I was like, I these are Saquon Barkley level 129 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: quads on Omarion Hampton. I mean, look at today and 130 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Cavs on that. He is enormous. Like, I don't know, Buck, 131 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys are doing at Carolina 132 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: and the Strength program back in the day. I mean's 133 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: mad dog back there. Now they got him these dudes out. 134 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: I was like, holy crud. 135 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: I will say this charges fans will appreciate a headlong 136 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: conversation with Natron means about it. Marian Hampton, he was like, 137 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: they never used him, They didn't use them enough at 138 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: Chapel Hill. That he is a workhorse. He's a guy 139 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: who gets better with more carries. I would say that 140 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: at some point Marion Hampton becomes Jim Harbaugh's version of 141 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: Frank Gore and he becomes a big part of this 142 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: offensive puzzle as they lightened the load on Herbert, but 143 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: create more explosive plays because you really have to defend 144 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: the running game. 145 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, look, the only thing that's going 146 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: to be in the way there is that Naji Harris 147 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: ran the ball really really well. Yeah, the other night. 148 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: So we'll see what that work share looks like going forward. 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: But there's our rookie draft for this week. We'll keep 150 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: an eye on that. I want to hit on some 151 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: other rookies guys as we kind of go through today's 152 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: episode again, it's gonna be a shorter episode today. We'll 153 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: have some some preview conversation coming up in the in 154 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: the remaining remainder of the week. But Ratt, you had 155 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: mentioned about Dylan Samson. He's done a really, really nice 156 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: job catching the ball out of the backfield. He's got 157 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: seventy seven yards and a touchdown already through two games. 158 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look again, not a huge part of the 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: game plan, you know, in the run game, but get 160 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, And he caught Dylan Gabriel's first touchdown pass 161 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: of his career, right, so Dylan to Dylan and again 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: it was way too little, way too late for the Browns. 163 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: But it was a nice little corner route that he 164 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: ran from the slot, like give a nice little stick. 165 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I'd like to see him stem up a little bit 166 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more there. I think he broke it 167 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: off a little bit quickly, but Gabriel stuck with it 168 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: and fit it, you know, just over the dropping corner 169 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and just out of the reach of the closing safety. 170 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: So I thought that was a fun play for Browns 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: fans to kind of get a vision perhaps of the future. 172 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: And you wonder just how distant that future really is 173 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: with the way things are going offensively for the Cleveland Browns. 174 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: I will. 175 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: I will let this thing go back around if you want. 176 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: But I think if we're talking about rookies overall, especially 177 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: offensive skill, having a somewhat down week, we have to 178 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: really prop up excuse me, really prop up the Atlanta 179 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Falcons defensive rookies. 180 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that was huge safeties the edge wreshers. 181 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Saw it all happened like the entire draft, you know, Yeah, 182 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: both the first round picks get their first career sacks. 183 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Walker looked like a man coming off the edge. 184 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: That was fun to watch with some you know, kind 185 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: of bowl in the China shop type stuff. And then 186 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Bowman and Watts, you know, come up with huge picks 187 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: in that game off JJ McCarthy. So I thought that 188 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: was that was fun to watch again to get a 189 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: glimpse of what this thing could be from a cornerstone 190 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: future cornerstone perspective. 191 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 2: Look, we talked about the end of the day book 192 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: about these young safeties too. Man, those two safety these 193 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 2: Macouba's got to pick as well as you're seeing, you're 194 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: seeing what Yeah, as well, there's a lot of good 195 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: young safeties. Man. Got of good rookies, Yeah, a lot. 196 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Of good rookies and we talked about it on the 197 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: show on Monday, where we talked about just how you 198 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: want to have like these athletic safeties. They have corner 199 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: like skills with great instincts and awareness and can tackle 200 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: like old school safeties, and we're seeing the league having 201 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: an influx of that. I think if we're going to 202 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: talk about rookers, have to talk about witnessing Travis Hunter 203 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: have more experience playing defense and how unique it is 204 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: to see a guy who literally was carrying the passing 205 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: game for a bit of the game to then go 206 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: back and play defense and have to play extensively. Look, 207 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: I love what he's trying to do. I do think 208 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: is a very very difficult deal to be a full 209 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: time player trying to play on both sides. And look, 210 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: the rookies is wading in the water. But he got 211 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: a little baptism on Sunday against the Beat. 212 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: And that kind of strange that for all the you know, 213 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: the talk, it's just been such a just kind of 214 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: nonsense story line through two weeks of the season, like 215 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: just you know, he's been he's been fine. Haven't really 216 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: talked about much on the defensive side of the ball. 217 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: Buck We've seen it right. But offensively, I just I 218 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: kind of thought we'd have more at this point. 219 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, no, so okay, so we 220 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: get the stat eighty one snaps in week two against 221 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: Cincinnati forty two offense, thirty nine defense. 222 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 223 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: I would say that what you've seen is more short 224 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: intermediate routes. They kind of running like the old Indianapolis 225 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: Colts route, like the little five yard under Reggie Wayne 226 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: and Marvin Harrison made a living catching those underneath rousse, 227 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: which are cool. The big thing that you want to 228 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: see from him defensively, I've always felt like he was 229 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: going to be a better zone corner than man corner. 230 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 3: He got hung out of dry a little bit in 231 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: man demand coverage, gave up an interference, had a breakup, 232 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: But just kind of want to see when they're able 233 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 3: to kind of settle in and allow him to be 234 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: a sea ball gefball defender. Can't be the playmaker that 235 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: they envision when they took him number two. 236 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: Overall, Yeah, there's a lot of pressure on him, man, 237 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: because it's like you've just been a highlight machine in 238 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: college and at the Heisman Trophy. There's all that comes 239 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: with it and that you just it's not even like 240 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: the numbers, like you're expecting to see these huge games 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: and interceptions and touchdowns, but it's just like, man, this 242 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: is supposed to be the most exciting player. And we 243 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: know what it's like to see exciting players. We've seen 244 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors last year jump on the scene. You go 245 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: all the way back to the big dogs like Randy Moss, 246 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: and it's just like, Okay, this is supposed to be 247 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: kind of one of those unique special guys. And I mean, 248 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a really good player, 249 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 2: but watching that, watching through two weeks, I would say 250 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: he's blended in more than it's like you capsually sit 251 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: down and you're taking a back by what you're seeing there. 252 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, blending in is a good way to put it 253 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: right now. Not to say it's going to be that way, 254 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: but no, that's just where we are through two weeks. 255 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see where it goes from there. 256 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: I want to go through some of these other you 257 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: know numbers here looking at some of these top guys. 258 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: When we talked about Harold Fannin briefly and what he's 259 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: done along with Dylan Sampson, we see some of these 260 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: young guys offensively for the Cleveland Browns is encouraging McMillan. 261 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: We've touched on with the Panthers Traveon Henderson. I mean, 262 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to see some more opportunities and some more 263 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: from him, Rhett, But you know, I think he's got 264 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: the tools and the ability to be more of a 265 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: feature guy, just hasn't really happened yet happened yet. It's 266 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,479 Speaker 1: kind of a head scratcher, isn't it. Yeah, Like she's 267 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: like your most explosive player on offense, you know what 268 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: the the on the other side of it, the you know, 269 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of equally as big of a head scratcher. It's 270 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: like Kayshawn Boutie has become one of their best receivers. Yeah, 271 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, a guy who was left for dead. I 272 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, early in his career, and all 273 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's go one hundred yard games. 274 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm struggling to. 275 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: Put all the pieces together for Josh McDaniels. So far, Look, 276 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: it's working fine. I mean, they they've they've got their 277 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: their first win of the season this past week and 278 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: looked pretty good doing it with Drake May. I just 279 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: think a player like that man only take your offense 280 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: to new lengths. Now, look, we don't know what's happening 281 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and you know, is there a struggle 282 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: to pick up some of the complications of the offense, 283 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: which you know, for any rookie is always something to 284 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: wonder about. But I just I got to feel and 285 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to hold him back much longer, and 286 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: he's got to find a way or they've got to 287 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: find a way, you know, to you know, in Bill 288 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: Belichick's eyes, like, how do we accentuate this guy's strengths, right, Like, 289 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: how do we build around what this guy does very 290 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: well and put him in those positions to make the 291 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: plays that we saw that led to us taking him 292 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: in the second round. 293 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: I just want to see all these rookie running backs. 294 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: You just go through the list of all those guys 295 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: and we'll see what Judkins get in there. Kataboo, We're 296 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: starting to see a little bit, Yeah, Scataboo down there 297 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: in the red zone running hard at a nice open 298 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: field run. To me, I just want to see them. 299 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: Let these guys, let them loose, man Like, Yeah, I 300 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: don't think that's as much of an adjustment. Pass protection, sure, 301 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: like you you know, you got to make sure that 302 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: they know what they're doing in terms of pass protection. 303 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: But running the balls. Running the ball. Let these guys 304 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: carry the ball. Let them get out there and get 305 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: loose and get going. So yeah, we'll see what happens. 306 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: You know, we wanted to kind of do a deep 307 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: dive on these rookies, and when you really do the 308 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: deep dive, there's not been all that impressive, to be 309 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: honest with you, at this point in time, it's nothing 310 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: to get you super excited. So I want to I 311 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: want to do one more thing here as we're kind 312 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: of going through kind of a mini episode. We if 313 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,479 Speaker 2: we look at the NFC, guys, you've got the undefeated 314 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: teams right now, Philly, Green Bay, Tampa, and then you 315 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: get to the West with three undefeated teams San Francisco, 316 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: Arizona and the Rams. We've talked in the AFC. You 317 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: know about how surprised we are with Indianapolis Colts, that 318 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: being probably the biggest surprise we've seen to start the year. 319 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: Are any of those teams in the NFC, any of 320 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: those undefeated teams, does any of that surprise you? At all. 321 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Not Tampa. I think Green Bay being as dominant as 322 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: they've been on defense does surprise me a little bit. 323 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: And now look at that, you do have to factor 324 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: in Michael Parsons, right, which I think wasn't a part 325 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: of the kind of national conversation about the Packers defense 326 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: until you know, a week before the season whenever he 327 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: ended up getting there, So kind of take that into account. Right, Certainly, 328 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: no surprise with Philly. I'd say Arizona being two and oh. 329 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, they've played some lesser teams, I think, so 330 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: if you take that into account, But if you're if 331 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: you're also looking at like which one is which one 332 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: of these teams is going to have a hard time 333 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: sustaining the two and oh record, and the way that 334 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: it's the forty nine ers, you know, with brock Perty 335 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: out and the injuries and Kittle out, Like how long 336 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: can they continue. 337 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: To keep that up? 338 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: I think, you know, hat tip to them for figuring 339 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: it out here through these first two weeks. But I 340 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: would say, you know, to me, at this point, the 341 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: three best teams in the NFC are the Rams, the Packers, 342 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: and the Eagles. 343 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you in terms of the three 344 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: best teams I think right after that is Tampa the team. Yeah, 345 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: I would say it is probably a bit of a 346 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 3: surprise in a way, would be theirs. On the Cardinals, 347 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: their schedule certainly has helped them, but still it's hard 348 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: to win games. You have three of the John Gannon experience. 349 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: They they have jumped out to a fast star but 350 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: now can they sustain it in a division that appears 351 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: to be vulnerable for them that they've always competed well 352 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: against their division rivals, but can they stack enough wins 353 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: early to put themselves in a position to kind of 354 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: sneak and win the division. That's what I want to 355 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: see because the Niners injuries eventually that's gonna come back 356 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: to bite them. So now it's about the Cardinals in 357 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: the Rams. With the Rams schedule, can the Cardinals kind 358 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: of back door their way into a division title? 359 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: I'll be honestly, though they're talking about those three teams 360 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: in the NFC West are undefeated, I'm not so sure. 361 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: When the dust settles at the best team in the 362 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: division isn't the only team with a loss in the 363 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: division the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks are one and one. 364 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: They will be right there till the end. I mean 365 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: kind of a I don't want to say a fluky touchdown, 366 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: but kind of an odd touchdown. The San Francisco beats 367 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: them on on a ball that should have been knocked away, 368 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: and then they go on the road and manhandle the 369 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. They have a good defense. Sam Donaldoks already 370 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: looks very, very comfortable. They've got better up front on 371 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: the offensive line. Cooper cups fit in nicely. Like that division, 372 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: who who thought that the Yeah Canine ran Sharon May 373 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: was better the week before? Yeah? That was the best. 374 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: I mean I always had some big games, but like 375 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 2: the stop start stuff was awesome in that game. So 376 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: that's a fun division. 377 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: Man. 378 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: And uh, and by the way, if you're looking to, uh, 379 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 2: you know, dig in on some of these teams, some 380 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 2: of these rookies. You want to watch these guys you 381 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: want to study. Maybe you've got an interest in, you know, 382 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: eventually becoming a scout and you want a way to 383 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: do that. What do you do? Uh, It's pretty simple. 384 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: You just sign up for NFL Plus Premium. You can 385 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: check out NFL Pro that's where you can access over 386 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: ninety five unique player and team performance stats and the 387 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: all important All twenty two film that is available on 388 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: desktop and on mobile web. So, uh, I would encourage 389 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 2: you to do that. If you're a junkie, if you're 390 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: a football junkie, a film junkie, uh, you have any 391 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: interesting scouting or maybe just a fan you want to 392 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: know more about what the heck went wrong with your 393 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: team that week, I'd encourage you to dive unto the 394 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: All twenty two. You'll see stuff on there that you 395 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 2: never saw watching the TV copy. So I would encourage 396 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: you guys to do that. Bucke, it was a little 397 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: mini episode for us today, But I do feel like 398 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 2: we said some nice things about about North Carolina, you know, 399 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 2: So I feel good about myself. Well, look, I feel 400 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: I feel I feel great. 401 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: We've got a big week, got a big game this weekend, 402 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 3: going down the u c F to take on the nights, 403 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: so that that that give us a chance to get 404 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: maybe three three wins. 405 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: So I'm excited. I'm glad. I'm glad you brought up 406 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 2: u CF By the way, because a good buddy of mine, 407 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: Sean Clark, is with teammate of mine, was a head 408 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: coach at app State. The offensive line coach at UCF 409 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: has had some health health stuff, and uh, I've been 410 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: just praying for him and hopefully we get some good 411 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: news on that front and he's healing and getting better. 412 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: But UH, I love you Sean and thinking about you. 413 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: So say, all right, you guys, this is It's been 414 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: great to catch you up. We will be back. We'll 415 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: have another episode tomorrow. You have a guest for you. 416 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: We'll keep that a surprise. 417 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 418 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: And then we'll look ahead towards the big football weekend. Rhett, 419 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: enjoy your week off on the gout front and uh 420 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: and good luck you know who's your the fighting a line. I. 421 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: I will see you guys next week. 422 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: Uh. 423 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow though, right here on hook the sticks. 424 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: Mhm h m hmmmmmmmmmmm