Speaker 1: Second day. It doesn't feel good when you know somebody
Speaker 1: just lied to you. No, not at all. Like for example,
Speaker 1: i'd a listener tell me just the other day, Wow, Jeff,
Speaker 1: your song was so great. Area keeping it going? No,
Speaker 1: I guess you hate me when you tell me next?
Speaker 1: Brooks nice one of our listeners. Sure, one of our
Speaker 1: listeners were right. He says his date lied right to
Speaker 1: his face when they met up, and he does not
Speaker 1: understand why. So he's on this right now. Ryan. How's
Speaker 1: it going? Man? Hey, how you doing? I can't figure
Speaker 1: out why you're calling us for a second date. Update.
Speaker 1: If this person lied to you right away on your
Speaker 1: first date, yeah, let's find out what happened. But first,
Speaker 1: tell us about the girl that you met up with.
Speaker 1: What's her name? Yeah, her name is Lena. She seemed great.
Speaker 1: She's a realtor. I met her during an open house
Speaker 1: that she was showing. Oh that's cool. Were you shopping
Speaker 1: or just up and for hot realtors around? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I'm looking to buy a house and so it was
Speaker 1: a nice I'm not gonna take it, but she was cute.
Speaker 1: That's genius. I never thought about it. But if you
Speaker 1: meet women while you're buying houses. They think you have
Speaker 1: tons of money. Well, if they're realators, they're actually going
Speaker 1: to get your background and all of you. So how
Speaker 1: did you What type of game did you try and
Speaker 1: play on Lena? There no game, no game. You know,
Speaker 1: we just started chatting and we kind of hit it up.
Speaker 1: We just kind of clicked. You know, there's something nice
Speaker 1: and well the rare just honest, play it straight game.
Speaker 1: It's not a game. I'm going to write that one down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how that worked out for you, but
Speaker 1: it's great that it did. So what did you and
Speaker 1: Lena end up doing for a date anyway? Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I emailed her rights either email because of the open
Speaker 1: house and everything, so and I said, you know, I'd
Speaker 1: love to just get you to know you any more.
Speaker 1: This isn't about work, you know, I'm not interested in
Speaker 1: the house. Just came out and flat up said it right, okay,
Speaker 1: and she said yeah, she said yeah, I think that
Speaker 1: would be great. Nice. So it felt like a date
Speaker 1: going in, Like it seemed pretty clear that she wasn't
Speaker 1: just trying to get another client exactly. Yes, yes, I'm
Speaker 1: okay to talk about Like we did talk about work
Speaker 1: and everything like that. I'm an audiobook narrator, she's a
Speaker 1: reletter so we like talked about our jobs and what
Speaker 1: we're doing right now. Cool. That was just a part
Speaker 1: of it, right. It was a coffee and it was
Speaker 1: it was nice, but it only lasted for about twenty
Speaker 1: to twenty five minutes. It was pretty short. She gave
Speaker 1: an abrupt ending to it all. She looked at her
Speaker 1: watch and she said, oh, no, I've got a client meeting. Okay,
Speaker 1: and she did the quick like hug goodbye, and she left.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't believe her. You think she was lying
Speaker 1: about the client meeting. So here's the catch. I know
Speaker 1: this is weird, but check it out. I also left
Speaker 1: because I was like, why am I here? You know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. If she's leaving, you would probably end
Speaker 1: up leaving too. In the coffee shop for another half hour.
Speaker 1: So I saw her walking down the street. I was
Speaker 1: a little bit behind her, and she went into the
Speaker 1: container store that was right down the street. That was
Speaker 1: it had all the you know, organizational tools for a
Speaker 1: closet and whatnot. So I just saw her going into
Speaker 1: the client and I was like, that's a weird place
Speaker 1: to meet to meet a client in a container store,
Speaker 1: and so she just stayed there for like thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: just like browsing. Wait wait, wait where did you stay
Speaker 1: for that thirty minutes? Because that seems weird. I was
Speaker 1: on a park bench grass the street. Oh, it's like
Speaker 1: a private investigator. I would do the same thing. She's
Speaker 1: a realtor. Maybe she had to get like some sort
Speaker 1: of something for stage in a house, or you know,
Speaker 1: like there could be a very plausible reason. Great, why
Speaker 1: lie about a client meeting them? Because maybe she honestly
Speaker 1: had to go get this stuff. Here's the question. Did
Speaker 1: she actually buy anything from the store? O? No, she didn't.
Speaker 1: She browsed for thirty minutes and then just left. Did
Speaker 1: she talk to anybody while she was in the store, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, you bugged her. Did you
Speaker 1: go into the store? I did not go into the store. No, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. Oh that's that's where you draw the line.
Speaker 1: And even stalkers have to have their limits. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: what happened? I mean, why exactly are you calling for
Speaker 1: our help right now? Are you still interested in trying
Speaker 1: to get another date with Lena? No? I really would
Speaker 1: like to see what her excuses. I just want to
Speaker 1: call her out. I want to call her out on
Speaker 1: the radio, even if she said, Bro, what if she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he was so great and I actually
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him again. What's your reaction going
Speaker 1: to be to that? I don't believe it? Then? Why
Speaker 1: did you lie to me? Though? Is this just like
Speaker 1: a lot of bad dates all piling up and you
Speaker 1: finally cracked? No, this is me just being like, look,
Speaker 1: be yourself, be unadulteratedly yourself all the time. And if
Speaker 1: you standing up for yourself, bro, I think you're standing
Speaker 1: up for your own morals. Right, she did anything wrong?
Speaker 1: Like you still don't know? Like it's just easier to
Speaker 1: say client meeting than it is to say, well, we're
Speaker 1: staging this home and I need organizational tools for the
Speaker 1: junk drawer, so I need go, you know, Like, but
Speaker 1: it's not even a day? Is so short? It is short.
Speaker 1: Let's I can pull around the room. Who believes that
Speaker 1: Lena was telling the truth that she actually had to
Speaker 1: meet a client? No? No from Alexis, Can I vote that?
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters, Like I don't think, but
Speaker 1: I think she could absolutely possibly be telling the truth. Okay, absolutely,
Speaker 1: PAUSI a liar like all women. All right, another burn
Speaker 1: scores Okay, So, jeff I think she was telling the truth. Okay,
Speaker 1: so against Yeah, so I don't. Is there anything that
Speaker 1: happened during the coffee date that could have happened that
Speaker 1: would have made her want to leave earlier? Yeah? Good questions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been racking my brain about that and I can't
Speaker 1: think of it. Okay, you didn't yell at a barista
Speaker 1: or anything? No, no, okay, Well, we're gonna try and
Speaker 1: do some investigation here. We'll get to the bottom of this.
Speaker 1: We'll play a song, we'll come back, we'll call Lena
Speaker 1: for you, and we'll figure out whether she lied or
Speaker 1: whether she told the truth. We're gonna do it right
Speaker 1: after this and your second date update. Hold on, man,
Speaker 1: It's Brooke and Jeffrey and the mysterious case of the
Speaker 1: container store confession. Ryan's date after twenty minutes said she
Speaker 1: had to go to meet up with a client, but
Speaker 1: after he followed her, he saw her go into a
Speaker 1: container store. Quote casually browsing yea, which, might I add,
Speaker 1: Brooke doesn't sound very urgent like she said it was,
Speaker 1: or very fun. Yeah. Yeah, So now I'm kind of
Speaker 1: back on the fence here. At first I said I
Speaker 1: believed Ryan's date actually had a meeting. Now not so
Speaker 1: sure anymore. I'm waffling here, having a hard time siding
Speaker 1: with a dude who sat outside for thirty minutes and
Speaker 1: watched a lady from a park bench. I mean, whatever happens,
Speaker 1: this is definitely going to be interesting. And Ryan, you
Speaker 1: say that you're an audiobook narrator once this mystery is solved,
Speaker 1: narrating it for the show. Sure, no problem, Okay, I
Speaker 1: cannot It's going to be in a New York Times bestseller.
Speaker 1: Here's my question. Because you're all about the truth, right,
Speaker 1: you want every last detail of the truth. And so
Speaker 1: does that mean when we get her on the phone,
Speaker 1: we can tell her that you sat outside on a
Speaker 1: park bench and watched her while she shopped. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what, Fine, that's fine, that's fine again, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not interested in getting a second take. Yeah, we can't
Speaker 1: blow it. You just want honesty. Yeah, okay, But we
Speaker 1: need to be careful here because even though we're on
Speaker 1: an investigative mission, we can't come in too hot, like
Speaker 1: get her on the phone and be like, tell us
Speaker 1: what you did. Yeah, you need to find out what
Speaker 1: her story is. And then after we grease the wheels,
Speaker 1: then we can break out the heavy interrogation tactics. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Detective debout is all the case, that's right? All right, Ryan,
Speaker 1: you're ready to do this, man, Yeah, let's go for it. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to dial her number right now. We're going
Speaker 1: to solve this mystery. Here we go. Hello, Hi, is
Speaker 1: this Lena? This is she? Hi, Lena. My name's jeff
Speaker 1: I work on the radio show Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 1: the Morning. I was hoping you have a second to
Speaker 1: talk with us as sure. What is this recarding? Is
Speaker 1: regarding a date that you went on not too long
Speaker 1: ago with a guy named Ryan. Oh um, what is
Speaker 1: this about? This is a segment that we do on
Speaker 1: our show called a second Date Update. It's where if
Speaker 1: you go out with someone and afterwards, if that person
Speaker 1: isn't calling you back, you can email our show and
Speaker 1: we'll help you figure out the reason why. Oh okay, right, Ryan.
Speaker 1: We've spoke to him a little bit before he told
Speaker 1: us about your date, and he's a little bit confused
Speaker 1: about how everything ended. So we're hoping to get your
Speaker 1: perspective on what happened. Would you mind telling us about it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we went and got coffee and that was that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he told us that. He said it didn't last very long.
Speaker 1: It was like twenty minutes or something, and then you
Speaker 1: kind of bailed quickly at the end. Oh well, I
Speaker 1: didn't really realize what time it was and I needed
Speaker 1: to run, so like I needed to wrap things up.
Speaker 1: You didn't need to run, Lena, This is gonna feel
Speaker 1: a little awkward here, But and I don't think Ryan
Speaker 1: meant to do this on purpose. But after you guys
Speaker 1: left for coffee, he said he left as well and
Speaker 1: ended up going in the same direction as you down
Speaker 1: the street and he saw you go into a container store.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, so he was he like stalking me.
Speaker 1: It feels like that. I don't think he meant to
Speaker 1: do it on purpose, but he did see that happen.
Speaker 1: How could you not do that on purpose? Walk and
Speaker 1: follow me? Well, you can both be going in the
Speaker 1: same direction after you leave, northwest southeast, just the right. So, Lena,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to figure out on Ryan's behalf, did
Speaker 1: you really have a client meeting in the store like
Speaker 1: you told Ryan you did Wow, So he follows me
Speaker 1: and I have to now account for my action and
Speaker 1: see Jeffrey, we're just trying. Ryan just wants to know
Speaker 1: if that was the truth or if he did something
Speaker 1: wrong that made you just want to get out of
Speaker 1: the date. I just think you need to be blunt
Speaker 1: with him and just tell us why why didn't you
Speaker 1: want to see him again? Because he really honestly has
Speaker 1: no idea. He has no idea at all, none at all. Well,
Speaker 1: he's just confused because you know, you said I really
Speaker 1: have to go. You looked at your watch even in
Speaker 1: your like this is urgent, and then you casually browsed
Speaker 1: around afterward. And so he feels like he was lied to.
Speaker 1: What do you mean casually? How did he know that,
Speaker 1: we guys, because he was on a park bench watching
Speaker 1: you the entire time what you were doing. So he's
Speaker 1: a psycho. Look, you can understand, you can understand dating
Speaker 1: is hard. Right now, he feels like he's being lied to.
Speaker 1: It's his last straw. He's not he thought I'm trying
Speaker 1: to attack you or anything. He just wants to know
Speaker 1: the truth. He's just exhausted from this whole process. We're
Speaker 1: not trying to tell you everything that happened through the
Speaker 1: coffee conversation said it didn't last very long and he
Speaker 1: didn't have much of a chance to talk with you. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if he told you this, but
Speaker 1: he's a narrator for audiobooks. Yeah, okay. So he takes
Speaker 1: out an MP three player and he hands me like
Speaker 1: one of his headsets and says, here, you need to
Speaker 1: listen to this, and I'm like, okay, so I put
Speaker 1: it in. I'm already kind of wearried out because it
Speaker 1: was been in his ear and I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but just to be nice, I listened. And he's actually
Speaker 1: kind of talented. But when we were done, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just put on a face because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he expects from me. And then
Speaker 1: he's like, did you hear how I said the word
Speaker 1: explorer terry? And I'm like what. He's like, very powerful, huh,
Speaker 1: you know, and just starts going on about himself. And
Speaker 1: at this point I'm a little kind of taken aback
Speaker 1: because he just seems extremely obsessed with himself. So he
Speaker 1: made you listen to his voice on an audio recording
Speaker 1: and then had you review his performance of it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and like, I'm sorry, but I felt extremely uncomfortable the
Speaker 1: minute he asked me to put that thing in my ear,
Speaker 1: and then like I don't know, I felt like the
Speaker 1: only thing I could do is just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I need to go. I mean, I did have a
Speaker 1: showing later that day, but yeah, i'd lie too, and
Speaker 1: so of his work and wants to show you what
Speaker 1: he does. It's annoying. It was a little much on
Speaker 1: the first dage. Well, I hate to make this worse
Speaker 1: for him, but I need to let you know that
Speaker 1: Ryan's been listening quietly on the other line this entire time,
Speaker 1: and he wants to talk to you. Ryan. You there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here. How do you feel. I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: I kind of love it. Like I know that's somewhat
Speaker 1: like weird and massochistic of me, but like I kind
Speaker 1: of need a harsh tone when it comes to that stuff,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I do. I'm proud of my work, and
Speaker 1: I might go a little overboard being like self congratulatory,
Speaker 1: and I see how from the outside he can seem
Speaker 1: obsessed with myself. It is a little bit weird asking
Speaker 1: her to review it in front of you right after
Speaker 1: you listen, Like, wasn't that wonderful? I see how that
Speaker 1: can be? And so you know what I work on that.
Speaker 1: I really will. That's reasonable. Usual people that react like that.
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know what to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: listen to that, Lena, Like he understands the flaws that
Speaker 1: he made. Like, does that change the way you look
Speaker 1: at him? I mean the way he responded. I was surprised.
Speaker 1: And don't you think it's really impressive the way that
Speaker 1: I've handled this situation, just making everything so nice between
Speaker 1: you guys. I mean that makes me a pretty good
Speaker 1: radio host, wouldn't you think? Right now? Jeff, can you
Speaker 1: just listen to my voice? How strong and powerful it is?
Speaker 1: I mean, I would definitely listen to myself, wouldn't you? Guys?
Speaker 1: Couldn't you say exploratory for me? Please? Exploratory ultimately, Lena, Like,
Speaker 1: what I like to say is I like I love
Speaker 1: taking notes, Okay, Like I like to be able to
Speaker 1: take direction, and I like to be able to do
Speaker 1: what you are so like if it comes off too
Speaker 1: much sometimes, which I do, come on, Yeah, ignoring the
Speaker 1: thirty minute bench watch thing. Okay, yeah we are. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just ask. I mean, I didn't expect that we
Speaker 1: were going to even do this, But Lena, would you
Speaker 1: like to go out with Ryan one more time? And
Speaker 1: we'll pay for it and he won't make you listen
Speaker 1: to any of his work? I can't. I'm rooting for this, Lena,
Speaker 1: because it's like logic and reason have finally maybe prevailed.
Speaker 1: You switched teams, bro. I mean, as long as he
Speaker 1: can work on his boundaries at the whole following me.
Speaker 1: Thank you? Um, but Ryan, you know, I guess i'd
Speaker 1: be up for it. Okay, So from Lena, Ryan, what
Speaker 1: do you think? Are you still cool with this? No? Ultimately,
Speaker 1: she lied. She lied to me like she she simply
Speaker 1: said like she had to go to a client meeting,
Speaker 1: and we clearly saw that that wasn't true. I can't
Speaker 1: deal with a liar. That's just like good graces, it's
Speaker 1: just good etiquette. Okay, what is she supposed to say?
Speaker 1: You are incredibly self absorbed? I need to leave. A
Speaker 1: lie does not equal etiquette. Okay, I a woman have
Speaker 1: probably lied to you. I'm just gonna tell you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot. It's interesting that she gave you grace for
Speaker 1: your mistake, and you're not giving her any grace. Thank you.
Speaker 1: This is probably why he's still single. No, probably it
Speaker 1: makes sense now, Ryan, I've got boundaries and I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't take a liar. I can't. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right, So, uh that didn't work out. But Ryan,
Speaker 1: do we still have a deal here? Will you narrate
Speaker 1: this for us? Yeah? Sure if you want, like a
Speaker 1: self absorbed person narrating his own story. Sure what? All right?
Speaker 1: I think we have the right guy. So he admits
Speaker 1: that broke and Jeffrey in the morning