WEBVTT - Under-the-Radar 2024 Masters Storylines 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.320 And when I find my ball. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.920 In a brid egg Frida egg, the dreaded Frida egg, 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.520 Frida egg, fridagg. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.239 Bride egg, Lie, I'm about ready to run off of 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:37.199 the hump. All right, Welcome back to another edition of 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:41.840 the Friday Golf Podcast. Today, Joseph and I are going 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:46.559 to discuss some underrated under the radar Master storylines. We're 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.600 going to do our Big Masters preview next week, but 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.960 in the meantime, we figured we would cover a few 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.720 storylines that might be a little bit smaller, a little 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:00.320 flying under the radar. As we are in the in 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.240 the last stages of Masters lead up, it's exciting that 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.360 the first major of the year is here. But first 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.000 let's get to in and out. Joseph, what are you 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:10.320 in on? 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.240 At the risk of being too similar to last week, 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.720 I'm in on the Valerio Texas Open, having a better 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.039 field this year and potentially a little bit better of 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.920 a weather forecast than in some previous years. This is 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.759 a place I've always felt like if the field were better, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.759 people would have a more favorable opinion of the tournament, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.039 and it's often been like one hundred degrees. It's great 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.800 golf course for testing professional golfers. I'll write more about 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.600 that for Club TFE, but I think there's a potential 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:39.160 that this is going to be a really fun tournament. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.600 It's looking like it's the forecast is going to be 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.320 in the seventies and the eighties with some wind, which 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.479 is a really good way for that golf course to play. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:50.880 So I think people may really enjoy watching this tournament 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.400 that's been sleepier in the past, but this year we've 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:59.400 got Rory Morikawa, Spief Ludwig, Max Homa, Fitzpatrick, like a 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.680 lot of big names compared to some years previous. So 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.520 I think it's gonna be a great tournament and I'm 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:04.600 pretty fired up about it. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.480 I think an underrated tournament ever all the time is 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.240 the week before a major, because you start to see 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.480 players kind of working it out, and I think, like, 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.440 I think you got to play within the two. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:20.920 Weeks before a major. 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.000 You got to either play the week, you know, like 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.760 at the Houston, or you gotta play this just having 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.280 a pencil and a scorecard in your hand before in 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.000 the lead up of a major, I think is so 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.680 important so that on Thursday you are not just feeling 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:43.040 that that kind of pressure, uncomfortableness that tournament. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:43.640 Golf presents you. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:49.040 So I think the week before majors are are super underrated. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.799 We'll get out, We'll get to my out. Which is 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.320 kind of the opposite, but I do love I love tournaments. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.920 The week before majors. You just kind of get to 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:02.400 see where players are at. Likewise, like I'm excited to 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.720 see where Brooks and ram are at this week at 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.120 Live Miami. Just I think those are the two guys 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.839 that I'm kind of watching. Maybe you could throw camp 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.840 Smith in there also for the Masters, but you know, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.560 just to get a check on where these guys games 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.720 at heading into the Masters. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.880 I'll probably add walking Nem into that for me. I mean, 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.280 I'm pretty interested seeing where he is entering the Masters 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:26.680 as well. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.200 I feel like I've seen a lot from him. I 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.720 don't I don't necessarily need to see more from him 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.799 in the lead up. I think I think I've seen 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.720 a lot from him this year, you know, in the 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.880 sense of that one I'm in on, I'm in I'm 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.680 in on Houston and Memorial Park, I think I've been 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:43.200 in on him. 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.640 I think I've I've been a champion of him. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:50.600 I thought that this last week it got the needed 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.760 spotlight that it deserves. The last really three years since 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.640 this golf course was reworked by Tom Doak. We have 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.240 a number of podcast episodes of but with Tom talking 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.560 about this project throughout its stages, from the planning to 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.880 construction to opening of this golf course stages. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.360 But I mean, I thought this week it really shined it. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:18.200 Obviously, getting out of the fall, getting into this part 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.520 of the year where you have this master's lead up, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.520 the tension for golf, the audience for golf is bigger 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.320 this time of year than it is in the fall. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:28.080 It really shined it. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.680 And obviously it had a really good field, and I 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:34.440 thought it put on a really, really great tournament. So 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.799 I thought this was a I'm super in on Memorial 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.440 Park as a tournament host, as a golf course. There's 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.800 a variety of reasons. I thought the design really holds 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:53.560 up well to modern golf. Short grass, low rough, really 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:57.440 fascinating greens with small targets that you have to hit 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.400 in order to score. I think what we we saw 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.560 really I thought It was highlighted extremely well with the 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.360 setup on Sunday was you have to be in the 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.160 right place to hit an approach close there, and if 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.719 you're not in the right place, it's going to be 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.440 hard to make a birdie. And if you try and 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.159 make a birdie, that's when you bring bogies or worse 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:22.120 into play out there. I thought, you know, listen, like 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.839 that golf course along with the Houston market, you're talking 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.440 about one of the five biggest markets in the country. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.200 That golf course in Houston should have a signature event 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.480 if you want to talk about building up the PGA Tour, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.440 building up the product. This is one of the best 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:47.680 combinations of market and golf courses. Maybe you know behind 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:51.799 Riviera in LA the best combination of market and golf 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.159 course that the PGA Tour has. This should be a 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:55.960 signature event. 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:57.400 It is. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.800 They have the opportunity to draw a big fan. This 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.680 is a golf course that anybody can play. It's a 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.440 tremendous test. I walked away kind of thinking like, could 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.480 this sneaky be a PGA Championship venue. 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.040 I don't think that's crazy. It's an amazing golf course. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.359 I think specifically having to miss around the greens in 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.680 the right spots is something that you don't see that 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.239 often on the PGA Tour. I mean, it always matters, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.080 but it mattered much more at Houston at Memorial Park 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.440 than at a lot of venues. The only part I'd 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.800 probably disagree with Andy, I don't think the field was 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.760 that strong, but the talent within the field elevated to 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.279 the top right. It was a compelling leaderboard down the stretch. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:44.200 Obviously Scotty Scheffler was in the field, but outside of Scheffler. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.839 Now of Scheffler, there weren't. 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.159 A ton of Like the Leira Texas Open is going 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:51.359 to have a better field, and I totally agree with 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.320 you that if Memorial had a better field, this could 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:58.080 be one of the premier events on the PGA Tour. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.400 I'd love to see it as a signature event, especially 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.159 given the accessibility and the size of the market. But 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.520 just the golf course in and of itself is worthy 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:08.920 of having a signature event. So with all those factors, 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.400 I'd fully support that it being deemed a signature event. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.640 Hey, I'm going to jump you on my out just 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.600 because it's going to relate to this conversation go ahead. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:24.000 I am out on Harbortown as an elevated event. I 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.040 love Harbortown, I love the golf course. I think it's 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:31.160 a unique, different test. But I am completely out on 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.360 signature events after major championships. If I'm the PGA Tour 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.239 and I want to make these signature events a big deal, 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.760 the last thing I'm going to do is put them 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.200 at the week after a major championship, which is going 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.680 to dwarf them. It is going to make them feel irrelevant. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.000 It's going to make them feel small. It's going to 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:56.920 make them feel casual in comparison to the Masters or 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.000 the US Open, with the Travelers following the US Open. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:01.880 This is just a bad idea. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.040 This is not I know that the players are playing 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.720 and they're close by, but this is not a good 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.480 idea going from Augusta National to Harbor Town and deeming 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:17.320 it one of your premiere signature events. Like, you're you're 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:21.800 doing multiple things. You're you are You're making the signature 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.240 events feel smaller by putting them next to a major championship. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:32.760 You're also cannibalizing men's pro golf. To me, and I guess, like, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.760 where there's there's a push and pull here is the 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.680 PGA Tour doesn't own the Masters or the US Open. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:44.120 But to me, the week after the Major should be 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.360 maybe if you want to still have opposite field events, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:48.840 it should be something like that. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:50.920 Or no event. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:56.480 Because a major championship, for gaulf like, you're still talking 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:01.520 about the Major championship into Thursday, Friday of the week 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:07.480 following a major. The tournament ends on Sunday afternoon, and 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.880 there's discourse then about the Major for at least the 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.760 next four to three to four days. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.560 You shouldn't have a big event right after that. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:22.760 There needs to be space, there needs to be time, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.400 and that's going to make the sport more popular is 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:31.600 by allowing space, allowing these big events to hold space. 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.120 And they should be thinking the same thing about signature events. 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.280 We should have signature events, and then we should have 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:43.160 space afterwards for people to talk about our signature events. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.160 When you pile these events on top of each other, 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.079 you are cannibalizing the impact of any of them feeling 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.520 really big outside of the majors. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.480 I agree, Andy, I'd probably take it a step further, 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.800 which is even more limiting, But I probably wouldn't want 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.280 to have a signature event the week before a major either, 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.880 because no, most people's attention is going to be on 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.160 the major. So yeah, you need to let these breathe. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.280 Every time somebody wins a major, it feels like they're 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.360 gonna it's only a matter of time before they withdraw 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.320 from that signature event. Right, that's directly week after, like 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:16.960 some of the guys who have seen the or. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.800 They go and miss it, or they go and miss 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.640 the cut. That's the other off sure, right, Like they 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:24.560 go there and they shoot one over par over two 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:27.600 rounds or finish if they make the cut, they finished 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.760 tea like it was like John Rahm spent Sunday afternoon 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.240 in the booth, Right, he wins the Masters, and then 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.520 at Harbortown on Sunday afternoon he's calling golf because he 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.760 finished T forty two and didn't care. That's the problem 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.280 is that nobody cares about the event after the Masters. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.200 I agree, and no one's I thought the Travelers last 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.360 year was really sleepy. Obviously, they got a good finish 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.040 with Keegan Bradley winning, and that was feel good for 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.720 a lot of people. But I think both Harbortown and 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.840 Travelers had no energy coming into them and relied on 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.480 an exciting finish to cut of save the event. Those 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.839 venues also, frankly haven't held up particularly well to modern technology. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.760 Those are two events that need to be looked at 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.199 and scrutinized pretty closely, because I think we could get 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.160 some very low energy tournaments the next coupley. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.120 Well, and this is where the Houston thing, right, like, yeah, 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.040 what are we doing? We get heart, We're going to 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:23.000 hilton Head Island. I would love to vacation at hilton Head. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:27.640 I would love to play Harbor Town. But is that 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.440 one of your premier events? Is that should that be 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.120 one of your premier events versus Houston and one of 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:38.560 the biggest media markets. Opportunity to build out like a 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.040 lot of stuff around the event because there are millions 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.320 and millions of people in the metro area, hotel and 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:51.000 also a great golf course. So like to me, like, 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.760 what are we doing here? This is this is a 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.560 market and a golf course worthy of a signature event 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.080 hilton Head Island, Like how many fans can conceivably go 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.160 to an event there? 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:05.200 Yeah? 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.320 And again I think the playability the golf course is 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.439 just much better for testing professional golfers at this point, right, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.840 that's that's somewhat subject preferential. But I pushed back there 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.800 gets a little overrated as a professional golf test. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.160 I think we should have a wide range of different tests, 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:31.319 and Harvardtown presents a different, unique test. If we have 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.960 if all the all the golf courses that host signature 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:39.160 events have a similar test, we're going to have a 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.559 similar skill set of players. I would liken this to 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:46.439 different courts in tennis. Some players are better on clay, 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.920 some players are better on grass, some players are better 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.880 on hard courts. The best players are great at all 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.520 of all of the course, all of the different surfaces. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.200 In golf, we should have precision cores. 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:01.240 We should have. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.760 Courses that are long and narrow. We should have courses 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.600 that are kind of open, like open and have like 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.400 an opportunity to play a lot of angles. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.920 And we should have links courses. We should be we should. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.120 Have a really wide range of tests that formulate who 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.280 the best players are. And over time, if you have 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:29.360 a circuit, you're able to begin to say, like, man, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.520 that guy is just a links player. We play three 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.520 signature events a year on links courses, and this guy 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.319 just like every year, year and year out he makes 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.920 his hay on links courses or Hey, this guy like 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.640 Jordan Speith plays awesome at Harbortown. 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.120 You know why is that? 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:49.920 Look? 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.080 I agree, I'm not advocating for one type of setup. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:57.960 I just think Harbortown, at this point in its life 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.360 and where technology is gotten, I think it's compromised that 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.520 course a lot. I know, I understand, I want a 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.920 variety of tests. I'm not saying everything should look the same. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.440 Pebble Beach is totally different, and I'm fully supported being 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.520 a signature event. I'm not saying every golf course should 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.679 look like Riviera or Memorial Park. But I just in general, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.600 I tend to think that we've overrated Harbortown a little 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:20.880 bit in the test that it presents. 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.720 But I think that. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.560 There is like an aspect of the history of Harbortown 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:30.800 and what that golf course meant for golf design that 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.160 you know, the launching it really launching of Pete Die's 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:39.160 like mainstream appeal as a golf architect that does put 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.680 it into a stratosphere that you know, I think there's 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:47.440 there's significance to the history behind it, and I agree 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.120 with that like where my problem with Harbortown is a 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:55.440 signature event, moral lies with where it is a like 0:14:56.160 --> 0:15:00.920 sleepy resort, uh and be where is on the schedule 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:04.600 the week after a major which it has no hope 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.359 of ever having any Jews. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.480 Agree And I think something we can probably agree on 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.360 as you're talking about Harbor Town's legacy and its history 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.840 going back to Pete Dies Early coming onto the scene, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:21.120 legacy and technology are working against one another right now, 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.720 and the PGA Tour needs to realize that if they 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.320 want to tout legacy and they want to play on 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:31.120 some historic courses, having the game at the right scale 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.680 is more conducive to that than just letting it grow 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:34.320 out of control. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:35.920 So I think we can probably agree on that. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.280 Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's a great point too. I 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:40.800 agree with that point. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.360 Oh what I'm out on, I'm going to pivot and 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.600 kind of piggyback off of you a little bit. Something 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.360 I've bounced around in my head a lot. I think 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:55.200 where I've landed. I'm out on major championships, getting FedEx 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.440 cut points, and I think there's a good case to 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.280 be made either way here. But I think I've pretty 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:08.600 much landed on giving FedEx cut points, distributing them at 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.000 major championships is kind of an admission from the PGA 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.040 Tour that their events will always play second fiddle to 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.720 major championships because the season long race. Let's say a 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.960 player won three majors and didn't even qualify for East Lake. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.240 Let's just say because you weren't giving points at majors. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.800 People would say, well, this doesn't feel like the season 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.880 long race, like you don't even have this player who 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.240 had the best season. But I think that's kind of 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.160 the point. If you want to build a special season 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:40.960 long race, like these aren't PGA Tour events the major championships, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.920 it's not. I think the entanglement between majors and the 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:49.320 PGA Tour obviously a hot topic between OWGR and a 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.960 million issues you can get into in which the game 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.240 is too tangled coupled between the PGA Tour and the majors. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.760 I think this is another example where the PGA Tour 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:04.080 could elevate its p by actually removing its scoring system, 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.040 decoupling it from majors. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:08.560 Where do you land on that? 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:14.520 It's an interesting idea, and I think like there's always 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.800 been this thing of like you know for years it's 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.399 like you get fifty extra points if you went a major, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.880 Like there's no way to actually accurately represent the majors 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.720 in the FedEx Cup, because if you accurately represented what 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.640 a major championship wins in terms of points, it would 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:36.320 make all of your other events look silly. I agree, 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.600 this is not a PGA Tour event. It's set up 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.520 by other people. It's you know, it's not a not 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.520 a PGA Tour event. They get a fraction of revenue 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:51.080 from it. I kind of agree that. Being said, I 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.240 think it could go two ways. I think when you 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:59.120 make decisions and changes, there's lots of unintended consequences. And 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:03.160 I think, like you could there's there's a vacuum where 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:08.479 you could conceivably see this elevating the PGA Tour events. 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.040 But I think there's also a vacuum that could make 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:15.480 people care less about FedEx Cup points. And you laid 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:20.080 it out like say, say say well and and part 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.840 of this live creates this too. But let's just say 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:28.200 Windham not Windham Clark. Let's just say let's say Matt 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:31.960 Fitzpatrick wins two majors this year but does nothing in 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:33.440 PGA Tour events. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:34.320 It would make the. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.160 PGA Tour look really silly if he like didn't make 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.760 it to east Lake. But as you said, that's a 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.680 different it's I think it's a it's a it's a 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.199 you could you could go both ways on this. I 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.879 think that's the thing. It would be an extraordinary risk, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.720 and I I don't know if if a billion a 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:59.359 multi billion dollar organization can can feasibly accept that type 0:18:59.400 --> 0:18:59.800 of risk. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.360 I am all for shaking things up. 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.840 This seems like a huge step, and I don't necessary 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:11.520 you know, listen, it's uh. I like the idea that 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.919 I think there are positives to the idea. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.080 Yeah, that's where I've landed. I've thought about it a lot. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.200 I think you are admitting by not doing it that 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:24.600 your your events are way inferior to major championships. And 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:26.480 if east Lake is special and guys have done well 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.199 in majors but haven't done well in any of the 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.919 PGA Tour events, like, it'll it if they if it 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.000 matters to them, If that fits Patrick, if it matters 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:35.520 to him, then he needs to play better in PGA 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:39.480 Tour events to qualify for the PGA Tour season end race. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.240 Majors aren't PGA Tour events, so I think I've landed 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.520 on being out on them giving points. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.479 But I understand it's not that easy. 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.520 I think the other thing, the other thing looming with 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:56.600 everything going on in men's pro golf is that the 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:02.200 the players really the PGA Tour play or who are 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.560 standing in the way of really getting the game back together. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.800 And I think live standing in the way of getting 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.920 the game back together too. But they need to understand 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.439 they're all getting equity in the PGA Tour. If you 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:20.680 have all the best players back together, I think that's 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.040 actually bad news for the major championships. I think the 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:30.800 current setup of golf is extraordinarily beneficial to the majors. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:31.800 Oh yeah. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.160 If all the. 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:38.439 Players are together, they can begin to negotiate with major 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:44.439 championships about their revenue sharers, which with these championships produce 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:50.440 the most revenue of any events on the annual golf calendar. 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:56.280 And I mean in terms of revenue splits, the players 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.600 get very little of it. If they're all together and 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.200 they're all all equity holders of this entity, they can 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.600 begin to negotiate against it. Because the majors need the 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.920 players they have to have the top players in the game. 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.240 As long as it's split, they're going to have they 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:19.280 have no negotiating power. So I just think that in 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:25.119 terms of the players, if you are if the tour 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:30.280 has so much more opportunity to begin to elevate its 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.479 events if all the players are together. 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:35.840 I didn't know where we're going here today, But if 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.359 you're hinting at maybe some of the reason that the 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:42.080 Official World Golf rankings have been hesitant to give points 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.760 to Live being kind of protecting the status quo, if 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.600 you're suggesting that is something I agree with. So that 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:52.200 is a I feel like that's kind of an elephant 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.399 in the room to an extent, Like how malicious or 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:57.920 nefarious do you think some of those actors are being 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.760 versus just protecting the integral of the system. I do 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:03.240 think there's a case to be made that they're a 0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.760 little bit worried about some of the gained leverage that 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.440 players would have all being together and actually trying to 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.520 get a bigger share of the revenue. So I didn't 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:13.960 know we were going there today, but that is something 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:14.960 I have felt. 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.760 If I'm August National, I want nothing to change with 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:26.240 my current arrangement with the best male professional golfers because 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.760 I give them a very small percentage of the revenue 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.240 I generate on a week, and I generate a ton 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.600 of revenue that I am able to use every year 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.960 to make enhancements that make us more money the next 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:44.479 year and the more money the next ten years. And 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.639 I think like there is a little bit of an 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.800 undercurrent of you know, listening to the USGA, the US 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:52.800 Open funds a lot of what the USGA does, The 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.600 PGA Championship in the Ryder Cup fund a lot of 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.840 what the PGA Championship in the the PGA. 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:01.760 Of America does, the Open funds. 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.080 You know, the players get very little of that money 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:10.240 in comparison to the way other sports leagues operate. And 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.320 that's just in the only way that that would change 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.439 in the long term is if all the players are together. 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.480 And you know what the best representation of some of 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.800 those ideas in practice is that within the official World 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.560 Golf rankings, you get one hundred points fixed for winning 0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:32.160 a major championship, and the players championship is fixed at 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.520 eighty and capped at eighty. The reason for that, I 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:37.160 don't think you have to read too far into it 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.680 is that if it were actually just based on field strength, 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:43.639 the players would outrate some of these major championships, like 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:44.600 the Masters. 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:46.680 But through the Official World. 0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:49.320 Golf Rankings, they've decided to fix the majors at one 0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.280 hundred and cap the players at eighty. I think that 0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:55.080 is a you don't have to be too conspiratorial brained 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.600 to understand why that's beneficial to the governing bodies and 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.640 to maybe we make one more leap that the Official 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.560 World Golf Rankings is kind of a mechanism of retaining 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.639 the status quo. 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So big thanks a good 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:05.040 Walk and excited for this long term partnership with them. 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:11.600 All right, Joseph, Let's get into our underrated, under talked 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:19.000 about sleeper storylines. For the Masters. Give me your first one, Andy. 0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.320 I don't want to be too harsh with this one, 0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.840 but I do think there is a very good professional 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:31.919 golfer who people think very highly of his game and 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:37.320 needs to do something in major championships before being crowned 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:43.560 elite I mean, or even very good. Sam Burns is 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.040 playing excellent golf this year. He is, I believe he 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:51.120 had four straight top tens earlier in the year, coming 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.640 off a couple finishes that aren't as strong, but he's 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.600 shown some serious form. He's played fourteen majors in his career. 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.920 Does he has won top twenty. He tied for twentieth 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.800 in the twenty twenty two PGA Championship. Outside of that, 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.640 no top twenties. I think sometimes you see that with 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:10.760 these golfers who are really good with a wedge and 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.560 a putter, that when they get moved to more demanding 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.680 major championship like setup longer, more long irons, and short game, 0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.760 they don't have the same results. You're not at PGA 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:26.960 West anymore. He's kind of the anti Cam Young, where 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.359 Cam Young's not as good with the wedge and the putter, 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.080 but much better with hitting the driver a little straighter, 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.760 just a better overall ball striker with some of the 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.520 long game. He's done exceptionally well in his young major 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.680 career so far. I want to see some more of 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:45.840 that from Sam Burns. I think this Masters's. 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.200 Torus would be another great example of the opposite of Burns. 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:53.160 Sure, same with Aideki Matsuyama. Right, Like, there's multiple examples 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:55.560 you could throw out there. Like, that's again a big 0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:57.520 part of why I advocated so much for Cam Young 0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.560 over Sam Burns last year at the Ryder Cup, because 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.560 Marcos was a little bit more of a major Championship 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:03.840 like setup with long irons. 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:05.960 We need to see something from Sam Burns. 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.080 Don't want to be too critical, but we're starting to 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.360 accrue a big enough sample size that if he wants 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.479 to be considered a great golfer, he needs to do something. 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.240 This year is a prime time to do it. So 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:16.920 that's an underrated storyline for me. 0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.480 All Right, I'm going to go along the same lines. 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:23.280 I echo your Sam Burns. I'm gonna go with a 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.800 guy that's had a lot of major championships success but 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.280 has been in a bit of a lull and like 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:34.320 as he's aging into his later twenties. I think there's 0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.560 a big question of have we seen the best of 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:43.480 this player, Klin Morikawa. Okay, obviously he's got two major championships, 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.440 but that was a long time ago. We're now bordering 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:51.400 on four years ago for those major championships, and you know, 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.040 we haven't seen him really win a lot. He won 0:29:55.120 --> 0:30:00.200 the Zozo in the fall, he hasn't won a an 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.760 event in like the regular season, like you know, the 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:09.720 the season for golf, nonfall event since the Open in 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:14.000 twenty twenty one. So my question, you know, is kind 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:18.560 of centers around you know, what is Colin Morikawa an 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.160 elite top ten talent? Is he one of the ten 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.800 best players in the game or is he just kind 0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:30.760 of like another really good professional golfer. And I think 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.320 three years ago he was without a doubt, oh this 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.840 guy might be the next great player. And I think 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.960 now that's a that's a big question. And I think 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.040 this major season, the Masters in particular, I think is 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.760 a really good course fit. He's played well here. We 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.000 haven't seen him contend in a major since the Masters 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:56.120 in twenty twenty two, So what what is Colin Morikawa's 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.520 kind of like major championship future. Is he a guy 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:05.320 that's going to get to four five majors or is it? 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.000 Is it kind of too and done? 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.560 I think that's completely fair. We Calin Mari Kaala has 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.200 been a little bit frustrating over the past couple of 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.920 years where he disappears at times when you think he's 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.560 gonna play great golf and then he pops up and 0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:19.719 wins the Zozo by multiple shots and you're like, well, 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.880 where's that been in big golf tournament? So I agree 0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.520 Calin Morri Kala does need to show it. Yeah, he's 0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:29.640 coming out. He's played four majors, three top twenties. He 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:30.960 needs to get in the mix in one of these. 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.320 I'm with you, yeah like that. 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:36.520 That that fifth at the Masters in twenty twenty two 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.680 was a very non competitive. 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.440 Fifth, right, Yeah, he needs to get in the mis. 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.800 Him, him and Rory played like they were never really 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:45.120 in it. 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.000 And they both played they had great Sundays and and 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:52.560 and got like great finishes, but they weren't really in 0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:53.160 the tournament. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.720 You didn't think, oh, that guy's gonna win. 0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:59.400 And frankly more, Kala hasn't done a whole lot so 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.320 far this year, So I think it's an open question 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:03.640 of where his game is right now. 0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.160 I mean, he hasn't done much the last two years 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:07.200 outside of that Zozo. 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:12.200 Yeah, he almost won Rocket Mortgage last year. He was 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:15.080 in the playoff and then I mean he was kind 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:17.480 of in the mix at toy and then he kind 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:20.400 of sent away the tournament at Capua. Yeah, but that's 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.400 not a lot of contention. And those aren't the most 0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:25.320 high profile events either. So it's time to see Callimore 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:26.480 Kawa on a big stage again. 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.480 You saw him at Kapalula last year and you're like, oh, 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.560 this is going to be a big year. Like it 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.360 looked like he was running away with that event. It's like, oh, 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.760 more Kawa this is And I just think, I just 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:43.400 wonder what what is he at this point? Is is 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.920 he a superstar or is he an above average PGA 0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:47.600 Tour player? 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.240 And I think that's a real question. 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.920 I think what stands out to me andy watching him? 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.400 This is a random tournament to pull. But when he 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:59.560 won the WGC Workday at Concession, that was a pretty 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:03.040 cool golf tournament and he looked so good. Then he 0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:06.160 wins to Open a few months later, Like we haven't 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.480 seen that. Colin Morikawa in quite some time. 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.960 Yeah, exactly, I think, and I think listen, like this 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.120 is one of the things. 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.120 That is hard. 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:21.480 Is like, when you reach a different level of star, 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.840 you have less time to be who made you the star? 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.400 And I think if you look at Morikawa, he has 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:34.480 more off the course responsibilities than he ever had when 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:38.520 he was a young player, when he was a standout, 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:43.640 unbelievable college player. When you win two majors before the 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.640 age of what twenty six, you all sudden enter the 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:52.000 stratsphere and I you know, I wonder, you know, it's 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.640 just one of those things like is is is the 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.360 work the same amount of work being put in that 0:33:58.560 --> 0:33:59.320 used to be put in? 0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:01.680 And I think that I don't know. I have no 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:03.320 clue about. 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.520 That, but I do know that there are more demands 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.840 on his time than ever before in his life. 0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:11.560 Yeah, I guess for me with Colin, it's I think 0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:14.480 the only concern. I mean, I think very highly of 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:18.720 his game. He has multiple things at any given point 0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:20.920 that could come and bite him. Like he's not the 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.400 longest off the tee. He hits it dead straight, but 0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:27.640 he's not the longest. His short game isn't always solid, 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.839 and the putting can be hit or missed, So when 0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:31.920 you have multiple parts of your game that can be 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.560 a concern in any given week, it's hard to project 0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:38.839 him to win. Like he's not on nobody's on Scotty's level, 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:42.919 but he's got he's multiple steps from being on Scotty's level. 0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:44.919 And I think, especially with the lack of pop off 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.600 the tea on some of these more demanding golf courses, 0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.080 his iron play has to be unbelievable to cover up 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:55.359 some potential short game deficiencies. So you're asking he needs 0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:55.960 to really be on. 0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.560 He's always going to be compared to Hoveland and at Wolf, 0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:04.400 and I think Matt Wolf for this uh this discussion, 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:08.520 has has kind of removed himself from the discussion. But 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.640 with Hoveland, I think that's like a it's an interesting 0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:18.120 comparison because Hoveland, you know, you're getting elite tea to 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:22.800 green play tea to green tea to approaching the green 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.440 play week in week out. The putter, I think is 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:29.680 more reliable for Holand and the short game has gotten 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.439 to a respectable level. Like I think when you look 0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:39.239 at the true superstars, they have always almost always have 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:44.320 three very very dependable skills and usually there's one flaw. 0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.600 And with more Kawa, I think what you've illuminated on 0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.799 is the lack of pop and the putting can can 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:54.000 both be problems. 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.040 The short game can be a problem too. I mean 0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.439 it's not always I wouldn't call his short game rock solid. 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.560 It's certainly not elite, and frankly we're seeing that with 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.400 Hoveland a resurgence in the short game last year, and 0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.360 then this year it's kind of regressed back to a 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.000 little bit of a questionable level. So that may be 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.080 another underrated story, maybe not so underrated, so I won't 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:14.759 use that one up. 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:19.400 Yeah, I think Victor Hovelin falls into the top tier 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:21.799 storylines for me, I didn't want to, but I think 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:26.920 it's he'll always be him and Morecow will always be 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:28.520 compared because they turned pro. 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.040 At the same time, I think. 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:31.800 All right, shall I get to my second storyline? 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:32.640 Yeah? 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:36.839 I think for me always at Augusta somebody. You just 0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:40.719 have to pay attention to Patrick Reid and why I 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.480 think he's particularly he hasn't been very good this year. 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.520 He hasn't, but it almost it's never really mattered too 0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.759 much his form to when he shows up to the 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.600 Masters T four last year, T thirty five, the year 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:58.239 before wasn't great T eight, T ten, T thirty six, 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.840 and then a win obviously in twenty eight eighteen, so's 0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:03.239 he can play in the Masters the rest of his 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:06.879 playing career. He's not qualified, though, andy for any other 0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.800 majors this year, and he's outside the top one hundred 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:13.239 in the official World's Golf Rankings with limited access as 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.480 a live player to getting those Official World Golf Rankings points. 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:21.520 So I mean, for Patrick Reid, this Masters isn't just 0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:24.600 an opportunity to add to his legacy with potentially winning 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.760 another one or registering another top finish, but it's also 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.520 a much needed, scarce opportunity to get some of those 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.560 Official World Golf Rankings points or finish highly enough to 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.200 qualify for some of the majors the rest of the year. 0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.759 It's a big It's a really big golf tournament for him, 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.360 specifically in an amazing course fit. So I think Patrick 0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:47.640 Reid's a really compelling story to watch. I never doubt 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:48.440 him at this place. 0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.719 I mean, in a way, the Masters is probably the 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.839 best place to qualify for other majors for any of 0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:58.640 the live players in the field. 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:00.800 That are not qualified for the other majors. 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:01.680 Why do you say that? 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:07.000 Just it's a small field. And if you finish high 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.560 in this event with a small field, that like take 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.799 out the older players and you know, some of the 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:19.160 past champions, some of the other exemptions, like you know 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:23.799 you have like the Latin American Am qualifier. You take 0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.640 out those players and it becomes a very small field 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.480 with a lot of different qualifications that are at stake. 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:38.080 And you know, you in any tournament, you immediately can 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:42.080 can shrink the field of players you're competing against because 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:44.120 half the field is not going to play well. 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:46.160 That is like just math. 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.279 And in this case, you have probably about twenty or 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:54.480 fifteen players that shouldn't really be that are there because 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.759 of past success or you know. 0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:58.520 So, so you. 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:02.279 Take like an high eight ninety player field and you 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.560 have removed it down to it's like a twenty five 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.840 player tournament if you're on your game, and then you know, so, 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.840 then you're all of a sudden the qualification standpoint, like 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:17.239 was it top twelve gets in next year's Masters, And 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.560 then I think it's uh, I can't remember what the 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:23.880 exact thing is for for the US Open, but you know, 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:26.240 if you're playing well and you're one of the players 0:39:26.280 --> 0:39:29.280 that you know that is in it's in their prime. 0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:33.240 It it is, it is not an unreasonable thing to 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:33.920 to use. 0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.080 The Masters to qualify for the other three majors, Right, And. 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:38.560 You could just do it on points alone, Right, You 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.839 could finish second and get a bunch Official World Golf 0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:43.880 Rankings points and jump up a bunch of slots. Like, 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.160 there's so many points at stake in a major championship 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.200 that you can really move your way up. So again, 0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:53.719 Patrick Reid, even when he doesn't play that well, finds 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.040 himself doing pretty well at this golf tournament. If he 0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.120 shows up with a little bit of game, like, that's 0:39:59.120 --> 0:40:01.600 that's somebody who cold finish in the top five. I'm 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:04.360 excited to watch him. He plays obviously a creative style 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.440 of golf, and I'm just excited to watch him play here, 0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:07.640 especially with what's at stake. 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:08.480 All Right. 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:12.560 This is almost like always something that I think about, 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.719 and I think we had like a real breakthrough this 0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:20.720 year with Nick Dunlap winning the Amex. But the idea 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:27.080 of a young player, an amateur that potentially contends on 0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:31.440 Sunday to win a win the Masters I think this is, 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.759 you know, something that we've seen. Obviously, Sam Bennett was 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.040 a player that contended pretty deep into the tournament, into 0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.239 the tournament. But this year, you know, you have a 0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:46.560 number of young players. Chrystal Lamprect is one to keep 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.439 an eye on. The guy's got a lot of game. 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:53.839 We saw him leading the Open last year. You've got 0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:57.520 Dunlap obviously in there. I'm just throwing Ludwig in here 0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.520 because he's you know, last year, he was in college 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.840 at this time, he's gonna be a first timer. I 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.799 think there's there's a real chance that we see one 0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.480 of these young players. Neil Shipley's another name, finished runner 0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:15.200 up at the at the USAM to uh to Dunlap. 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.279 So like these are these are the players kind of 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.799 to watch and I always I think it's a matter 0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:23.759 of time. I thought, you know, five years ago, is 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:26.120 we were going to see an amateur win a PGA 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:26.680 Tour event. 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:27.719 We saw that this year. 0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.719 I don't think it's unrealistic to think, the way the 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.120 game is going, the talent in the young ranks, to 0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:38.239 see an amateur contend late or even potentially win a 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:41.040 major championship at some point in the next ten to 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:42.000 fifteen years. 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.080 Yeah, I mean the the US Open that Bo Hostler 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.000 contended in. That's still a fond memory for me of 0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:50.759 a major championship in the past fifteen years. Like he 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.800 was in contention pretty late. I mean, was he his 0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:55.840 final group, right. 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:58.839 I think that's like Saturday he was. Then he kind 0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:01.840 of fell out, I think if I remember correctly. Another 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.840 one would be Paul Dunn and Jordan knee Breuge in 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.880 the Open maybe twenty fifteen, that was or twenty sixteen. 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.719 They played really well. I think knee Brugie finished T. Six, 0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:14.040 so it can happen. 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.239 I think the one you got to keep in mind 0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:19.160 with the Masters, it's a pretty low variance tournament that 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.680 elevates talent in a way that's much more difficult for 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.080 a long shot to compete. So of all the four majors, 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.960 I'd probably say the Masters is the least likely spot 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:27.160 for that. 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:28.000 Definitely say that. 0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.439 But the PGA is the least likely because they don't 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:32.440 have amateurs in it. 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:35.560 Well, okay, if you're just if you're specifically using the 0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:39.080 amateur designation, that's fair. I thought you're talking any young 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:44.879 Ludwig first timers. But sure, that's fair. But yes, long 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.720 shots are going to have a tough time at the Masters, 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.440 so that'd be the one caveat. But I'd love to 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.240 see it any in particular that you think. 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.480 I think Kristelle Lamppractice is one to watch. I don't 0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.240 know exactly how he's played this year in college golf, 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:00.760 but the guy is a stud. 0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:03.160 He's got huge tons of speed. 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.840 Plays at Georgia Tech, won the he won the British 0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:12.280 Am last year. He's six foot eight, he absolutely mashes 0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.279 the ball, and I just think he's got a ton 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:18.319 of game. He he's felt what it's like. He went 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.280 at Liverpool. I think he shot sixty six or sixty 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:25.960 five in the opening round and listen, like the guy's 0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.880 note now knows what it's like to be, you know, 0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:32.040 on the leaderboard in a major championship. And and I 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:36.439 think like he's got a ton of game, so he'd 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.600 be my my. I think he's an overwhelming low am belief. 0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:45.040 But I think you throw Dunlap in there, and I think, like, listen, 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.560 like Ludwig being a first timer in a year removed 0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.720 from college is kind of an interesting storyline. He wouldn't 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.759 be on my on my big storylines, but he's an 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.680 interesting like, how's it this guy's in the top ten, 0:43:58.760 --> 0:43:59.400 he's playing. 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.160 His first master at age twenty three. 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:05.040 Yeah, and again this will be another bigger storyline. But 0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.440 Wyndam Clark's never played to masters either, which is crazy 0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:08.000 to think about. 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.239 So he's what three at four in the world now. 0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.080 Yeah, so that might be jumping the gun on big storylines, 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:16.640 but just in the. 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.560 First time, first time or the biggest story is Peppy 0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.120 Peter Peter Malnotty. 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.040 Yeah, how do you like Malnatty's chances? 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:25.040 Don't love them? 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.200 How about you? All right? Should I go to my 0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:30.960 third one? Yeah? Go for it. 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.640 My third one is kind of again related to some 0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.719 of the conversations we've already had about the for better 0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:42.080 or for worse importance of the official World Golf rankings, 0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:46.839 whether you like them or not. Olympics slash President's Cup qualifying. 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.040 A lot of points are at stake in the major championships, 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.839 as we've already mentioned multiple times in this podcast, and 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:56.480 the Olympics is just something that nobody ever really mentions 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.960 that that's so close from here, and the way you 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.000 qualifies via the official World Golf rankings, So if you 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:04.920 want to be. If you want to be competing in 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:08.680 this year's Olympics at the Golf Nationale, you're gonna have 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.160 to do well in the majors, especially if you're on 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.799 live right, that's your only way that you can get in. 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.400 So I think that that's an interesting storyline the President's 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:21.000 Cut Part two. Obviously, without live golfers there, it's it's 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.000 may not be competitive and that event may not have 0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:26.439 as much juice as it should have. But who knows, Andy, 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:27.960 I don't know where you are on the Olympics if 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:31.160 you think it has potential to be special. But this 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.440 is how you get in, so pretty big. The Masters 0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:36.879 is a pretty big opportunity for some of those hopefuls. 0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:37.840 I mean. 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:42.680 Talk about something that is a huge, huge event in 0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:47.959 terms of like the greater sports world, the everybody loves 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:51.000 to throw around, grow the game. I don't know if 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:54.960 there is an event that has more opportunity to garner 0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.799 new fans than the Olympics because it's the Olympics, and 0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.480 like people can just pass by golf, like I don't. 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.120 I don't think there's another Is there another golf event 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:07.960 that has that like passer by potential? 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.399 Probably not I'm trying to think, maybef, You're walking around 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.359 Saint Andrews and there's an open championship going on, but 0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:15.360 that doesn't really count. 0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:21.200 Yeah, so you've got this like unbelievable passer by opportunity, 0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.520 and nobody ever talks about it in golf. 0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:25.480 We don't even know. 0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.680 Like it seems to me like it feels like players, 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:32.360 the top players are just trying to figure out excuses 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:33.719 on why they don't need to. 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:34.320 Play the event. 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:39.360 Yeah, that's been the history of the Olympics, and golf 0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.239 is like, how do I get out of this? I 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.920 don't nobody's asking questions to the players, like hey, Rory, 0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:48.839 are you going to play in the Olympics this year? 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:50.400 Because I think that's a big question. 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.719 I don't even know, if you know, like with what 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.200 the Olympics does to the golf schedule, we've seen it, 0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:59.239 like it puts the golf schedule kind of in shambles. 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.640 So I don't know who's gonna even play in the 0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:06.280 Olympics this year. I mean the South African South Africa 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.000 is one of the great golf countries. All the best 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.560 South Africans for the most part, are playing on liv 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:17.359 They aren't getting World Golf Ranking points, So are any of. 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:18.160 Them going to be in it? 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.200 I don't think so, because I don't think they're gonna 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:22.840 qualify because it's not I mean, it's based on your 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:26.520 official World Golf rankings until you hit sixty players that 0:47:26.600 --> 0:47:29.520 fill out the field, and it caps it basically caps 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.160 at two per country. There can be four if you're 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.399 all in the top fifteen, but after that. 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.640 The US, the US gets four and that's it. 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:39.000 Right exactly. 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:40.840 But I don't you're not gonna you'll get to sixty 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:43.959 before you'll hit South Africans unless they play super well 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.919 in the majors, and the cutoff is after the US Open, 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:49.759 so they're not even gonna get the chance in the 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.640 Open Championship to rack up any points. So it's a 0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.960 little bit of a funky Yeah, I agree with you. 0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.120 We're just not talking about it at all. Some players 0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.839 have already voiced that they don't want to play. We'll see. 0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:01.400 I don't know who's going to be playing in that. 0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.520 Who's going to be the fifty fifth golfer. 0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.040 I mean, the nice thing is that you have like 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.440 a lot of talent, a lot of depth in some 0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:16.560 new countries, some different countries, and I think that's one. 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.640 Of the I think the Olympics. 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:22.000 Golf in the Olympics will hit you know, it's it's 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:28.680 ultimate potential when you see somebody from a non typical, 0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:31.960 non golf country win a gold medal. 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:33.560 Are you thinking what I'm thinking? 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.160 China, India? 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.440 I was thinking Toasty. I don't know how kind the 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.719 golf national would be to Toasty, but he's got a 0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:47.960 chance of qualifying the toast fan Have you thought about that? 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:49.800 Have you thought about him in an Olympic uniform? 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:55.400 I mean him in the Olympic village would be just amazing, amazing. 0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.840 It's not far fetched. I mean, Grio's gonna qualify before 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.319 Toasty would. But I mean if he has a good 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:03.520 next couple of months, he's not qualified for the Masters, 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.279 but it's not out of the realm with possibilities that 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:06.600 Toasty could qualify. 0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.359 I mean that, And that's like the neat thing when 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:13.000 you start to like I mean Joaquin Neeman and Chile. 0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:18.680 You know Toasty there the You know, there are a 0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:23.200 lot of like exciting different countries. I always think about 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.319 Belgium in this like and that's kind of I think 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.640 where the the Olympics has dropped the ball. I saw 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:31.040 that they announced they're going to do the mixed competition. 0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.880 But the other aspect of it is the team competition. 0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:41.080 Give these like if Belgium beats America in or the 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:45.200 US and in golf for a gold medal, and like, 0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:49.480 this is something that could happen, conceivably happen. They have 0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:56.920 three very good tour pros in D three, Adrian Dumont, 0:49:57.280 --> 0:50:02.040 Deshassart and Peters. That is, it is not inconceivable for 0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.680 them to beat the US team. If you do that, 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.919 it would have a massive impact on that country. Goes 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:15.520 for yeah, South Korea, same goes for uh like Argentina. 0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:21.120 If Toasty and Grio beat the US, like that's an 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:25.480 unbelievable story. It's it's not inconceivable for even like some 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.200 of these countries for the four hundredth ranc player in 0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.480 the world to play at a high level and beat 0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.920 the twentieth rank player in the world. That's the difference 0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:39.320 between like it's taking basketball decades for these other countries 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.759 to compete with the with the US that has such 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.800 a dominant amount of talent. But we're getting to the 0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:48.200 point where it is a really good tournament. The US 0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:53.120 is still the favorite, but there's a conceivable, there's conceivable 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:57.000 pass that the US doesn't win. They have to play 0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:59.680 really well to win. They have to play well to win, 0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:01.760 and they have to have their best their best players 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:05.640 playing with the with it with golf. Not having the 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.319 team competition is the biggest miss, and I think it's 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:11.080 been hit on so many times and talked about so 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:16.200 many times, but that's it's really hard for to galvanize 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:21.799 fans around individuals compared to galvanizing fans around a team 0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.600 represented by your country in the Olympics. 0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:26.360 I mean, this is a layup. 0:51:27.000 --> 0:51:29.440 I agree, and I haven'tly thought about this, but as 0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:31.200 I'm thinking about it now, I kind of hate that 0:51:32.280 --> 0:51:35.880 there can be four from the from one particular country 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:37.680 if they're in the top fifteen, Like that kind of 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.200 ruins it a little bit for me as I'm thinking 0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.040 through it, like it would be kind of nice to 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.680 just have all two person teams so you could compare 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.120 apples to apples a little bit more. Here's how this 0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:50.279 country did, Here's how this country did. I understand getting 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.840 more star power into the field, but especially when it 0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.400 doesn't mean that much to a lot of these golfers. Unfortunately, 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.960 I kind of wish it was just two per country. 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:01.040 I think it would be really cool if you had 0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:06.160 an individual tournament, a stroke play tournament, and then there 0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:08.960 was and it could be thirty six holes or whatever, 0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:13.680 and then there was a match play component for countries 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.719 that had three that you could qualify three people. You 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.920 expand the field from sixty to maybe it's one hundred, 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:24.800 and all the countries that qualify three players are in 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:29.000 the team tournament, and the team tournament then goes to 0:52:29.120 --> 0:52:32.480 match play with the top four or eight teams and 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.840 there's three or two rounds of match play, and that 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:37.800 you get your winner with three players. 0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:38.759 Don for that. 0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:42.439 Also, the mix think about Canada. Think about Canada would 0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:43.560 have a team, you know. 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:46.479 The mixed idea that they're throwing around for the twenty 0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:49.640 twenty eight Olympics, where it'd be you know, maybe two 0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:51.960 men from a team and two women like that Also 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:54.680 is a pretty cool format for this, So I'd be 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:55.000 in on that. 0:52:55.840 --> 0:53:00.640 Yeah, So anyways, that should be I didn't expect our 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.160 Master's pod to devolve into Olympics chatter, but that's it. 0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:10.399 The last thing I have is Jason Day Jason Day, 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:15.520 to me is just an interesting He's still playing golf 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.200 at a high level, and I think he is one 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.040 of the great Masters players We've seen this, like players 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:25.279 that have incredible Masters record that just never never get 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:30.920 the win. To me, also, Jason Day, when you think 0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:35.800 about his career, his legacy, it doesn't feel like one. 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.520 Major is enough for his career. For who he was, 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:41.280 I think he's. 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:45.920 Constantly like for eighteen months of his of his career, 0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:48.200 he was by far the best player in the world, 0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:52.200 and he was extraordinarily great in months that he wasn't 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.520 the best player in the world. Here's his Master's record 0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:00.080 twenty eleven first Masters T two, twenty twelve, w D 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.520 twenty thirteen, third, twenty fourteen, T twenty, twenty fifteen, T 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:08.680 twenty eight, twenty sixteen, T ten, twenty second, twenty seventeen, 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:14.200 twentieth in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, T five Obviously, then 0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.560 twenty twenty, twenty twenty one were where he kind of 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.520 had his troubles in his career with the injuries. Cut 0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:22.480 cut T thirty nine last year doesn't tell the story. 0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.440 He was cruising early in that tournament and then he 0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:29.440 got Vertigo. He was it looked like he was one 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.480 of he was the only guy that was going to 0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:35.920 catch Koepka on Friday, and then he gets hit with Vertiko. 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:40.560 I think this guy the Masters represents his best opportunity 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.239 to win a major. We always see these kind of 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.360 players that win a major late in their career that 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.440 that's like kind of that icing on the cake. He's 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:52.440 about the same age as when Sergio won his Masters, 0:54:53.800 --> 0:54:56.799 and I just think Jason Day should get to two 0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.120 majors in his career. 0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:00.520 Yeah, it's funny you say that. I was thinking a 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:03.839 lot this weekend about the difference between one and two 0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:08.080 majors is just absolutely massive. Like one can happen like 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.960 that can be kind of fluky, but the list of 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.920 people who has two, like that's a much more established, 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:18.960 impressive list where you really feel like you've solidified your career. 0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:23.040 I agree Jason Day feels of the caliber to notch 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:26.879 that second major championship. And I think especially last year, 0:55:26.920 --> 0:55:31.480 he was playing such good golf entering the Masters. He 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:34.120 was coming off a good finish at Dell match Play, 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:39.040 had played i think all top twenties between AMX and 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:44.080 match Play, which was seven events entering the Masters, and 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:47.000 then we didn't really see that much from Jason Day 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:48.800 the rest of the year. He won it Byron Nelson 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:54.800 finished T two at Liverpool, obviously a big, strong finish, 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.480 but since then he's really been hit or miss. I'd 0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.919 love to see Jason Day in contention. 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.640 Many second place finishes in majors he has. 0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:04.560 I don't how many does he have? 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:05.319 Five? 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:06.560 That's tough. 0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:10.280 Yeah, it's uh that's like, you know, the sliding doors 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:14.640 of major golf is there's only one winner and a 0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:17.359 lot of people that come close. And uh so he's 0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:20.719 got eleven. He's got eleven top five, top five major 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:21.839 finishes in his career. 0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:23.040 Obviously similar. 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.960 Not to throw a fourth one, but another player who 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.480 the reason I was thinking about this, I think will 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:32.800 go down as maybe one of the most underrated players 0:56:32.840 --> 0:56:36.919 of the last two decades. One major championship doesn't feel 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:41.080 like enough. Great fit here Justin Rose. I mean, it's 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:44.120 it is crazy to me that Justin Rose could finish 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:47.680 his career with just one major, and that doesn't feel 0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:48.600 like it should be that way. 0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:52.280 It's it's this is there that are kind of last 0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:55.200 few years. I think, like you you get into these 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.200 especially now. It used to be forties, but I think 0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:01.120 the golf's kind of shifted. These are two players that 0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.600 are in their late thirties and it's you know, they 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.480 might have a couple more spins around here. I think 0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.680 Jason Day, you know, he's had a decent year. He's 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:12.560 got three top tens on the year. I think he's 0:57:12.600 --> 0:57:13.120 somebody to. 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:14.879 Watch Roses forty three. 0:57:14.960 --> 0:57:19.640 But yes, yeah, that's a good point. So all right, 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.080 that does it for me? You got any parting thoughts? 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:24.760 And now it's going to be an amazing tournament. I 0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.000 think we'll get some more storylines as the Valera Texas 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:29.800 Open and as de Rale un folds, like there will 0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:33.600 probably be some storylines entering there. So just excited for 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:34.040 the tournament. 0:57:34.560 --> 0:57:34.880 All right? 0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:35.960 Do you have a recommendation? 0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:38.919 Can I? Can I give one that's completely random? Mandy? 0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:43.240 Yeah, I've been thinking about this documentary I watched a 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.960 while ago called Bill Cunningham New York. Do you know 0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.240 who Bill Cunningham is, Andy, I do not. It's a 0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:56.320 famous photographer and there's an awesome HBO documentary about him 0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.280 doing his job in his daily life, and he's just 0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:02.240 in fatuoy with taking pictures of fashion that he sees 0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:06.080 in everyday life. Never was wealthy, he never cared about money, 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.720 lived in like a tiny apartment, was super well connected 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.640 because of all the people that wanted him to photograph them, 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:17.920 famous New York Times photographer. Extremely refreshing watch about somebody 0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:20.080 that's just fully invested in what they like to do. 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:22.240 I think it has mass appeal. I watched it with 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:25.280 my mom. You can watch it with your significant other, 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.439 however you want to watch it. I think most people 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:30.800 would like it just a little bit different. Totally nonsports, 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:32.560 but that documentary is really stuck with me. 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.160 Great, great recommendation, my recommendation. 0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:41.040 This is kind of like a part add but we 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:45.080 have all of our events as of Tuesday, so the 0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:50.400 most likely day you're listening to this podcast are launched 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:56.120 and available. So Frida Egg events. We've got some amazing venues. 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:59.800 You know a couple. I'll highlight Hollywood Golf Club, one 0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:03.120 of the best courses that very few people talk about. 0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:08.400 Walter Travis design absolutely mesmerizing greens. That's one to look at. 0:59:09.040 --> 0:59:13.400 Chambers Bay. We are hosting a tournament the day after 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:17.280 the Pacific Coast Amateur. It will be in the best 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:20.960 shape that Chambers Bay will be in all year. It 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.760 is also, I think, from what I've heard from locals, 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.720 a very good deal in terms of pricing for two 0:59:26.840 --> 0:59:29.520 rounds at Chambers Bay. That's in the middle of the 0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:33.320 summer in Seattle. I haven't been there. I'm excited. I 0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:34.760 think I'm going to try and go to that one. 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.960 I haven't been to Seattle. I really want to go 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:42.960 to Seattle. So that's one that I would highlight. And 0:59:43.040 --> 0:59:46.200 then two other ones Essex County one of the best 0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:50.160 Donald Ross courses in the world and Prairie Dunes one 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:52.880 of the best golf courses period in the world. So 0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.760 those are a few that I'll highlight. You can check 0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:59.280 them all out at proshop dot Thefrida Egg dot com. 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:03.320 All of our events are there, so uh, come out, 1:00:03.520 --> 1:00:03.960 hang out. 1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:05.560 Uh. They are a great time. 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:09.240 Really, like the whole ethos of Bride Egg events uh 1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:12.600 is like they're built around like, how would you want 1:00:12.880 --> 1:00:15.680 to have a day of golf at a really great 1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:16.280 golf course. 1:00:16.440 --> 1:00:17.480 It's all about the golf. 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:21.960 It's you know, uh, we play, it's fun, you meet 1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:24.880 really cool people, other people that are really into golf. 1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:27.720 I think that's you know that's what what people are 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.360 there to do, and uh yeah, they're they're a great time. 1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:34.400 I know you've attended a few as a as a 1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:36.720 patron before you before you worked here. 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:37.680 Amazing. 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:39.960 Yeah, of the ones you mentioned, I've played two of 1:00:40.000 --> 1:00:44.040 them as part of Fridagg events, the Hollywood Golf Club, 1:00:44.080 --> 1:00:47.360 the Walter Travis in Deal, New Jersey, and then Essex 1:00:47.440 --> 1:00:50.880 County Club in Manchester by the Sea. Those were two 1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:55.200 unbelievable days of golf. So I cannot recommend those enough 1:00:55.240 --> 1:00:56.640 and I'm sure the other ones are just as good. 1:00:57.360 --> 1:00:59.760 Yeah, we have them all over the country, so if 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.160 you're if you're trying to stay regional, you can do that, 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:06.680 or if you're trying to travel somewhere, I would you know, 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.280 like I think the Seattle one, the Chambers Bay one 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:11.240 is a great one to do like a weekend away. 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:16.760 So all right, big thanks and thanks to Matt Rushes 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:20.200 for editing and producing this podcast. 1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:21.240 We will be back. 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:25.960 I'm excited about this. The next podcast I have it, 1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:29.880 I have the file. I'm gonna devour it, probably before 1:01:29.920 --> 1:01:33.439 it goes up. But Garrett is back with his Great 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:38.520 Courses series and the topic is augustin National He has 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:42.520 a great guest, Josh Pettitt, who put together the marvelous 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:45.960 Mackenzie Reader book. He's previously been on the podcast to 1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:51.000 talk about Mackenzie, but they go deep on Augusta National, 1:01:51.680 --> 1:01:55.760 the latest in the Great Courses series, which previously has 1:01:56.400 --> 1:02:03.720 documented the old Course sunning Dale, Uh, Royal Melbourne and 1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.280 am I forgetting one? Those are National Golf Links, National 1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:10.960 Golf Link South America. So those are the previous four episodes. 1:02:11.000 --> 1:02:14.920 If you haven't, those are amazing. Garrett's done an amazing 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.440 job with those episodes. I cannot wait to listen to 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:21.200 the Gusta National one. But yeah, that's uh, that's what 1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:25.240 what we have and next, you know, next time we 1:02:25.680 --> 1:02:29.680 do this pot it'll be Master's Week. So big thanks 1:02:30.080 --> 1:02:33.880 to Matt for producing all this stuff and uh excited 1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:36.320 for the next kind of two weeks here