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Speaker 1: Afternoon. Goodn't you great?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for asking, maybe just the thought on I think

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Speaker 2: the conversation is DrAk and just his decision making when

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Speaker 2: it comes to sliding running. How much is that an

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Speaker 2: ongoing week to week, day to day type of conversation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we certainly, I think we've addressed what we

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Speaker 2: think the right thing to do is.

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Speaker 1: I think he.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a competitive guy, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: think certainly making sure that he's available for the team

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Speaker 2: is the priority. So you know, he's got a balance

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Speaker 2: doing the things that help us make really good plays

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Speaker 2: in those situations because he's an athletic guy who's gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to make some things happen when he runs,

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Speaker 2: versus making sure that he protects himself at the end.

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Speaker 2: So you know, certainly he's seen him too. So it's

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Speaker 2: just about making a good decision in the moment each

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Speaker 2: time you do it. And and really that's a good

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Speaker 2: way for a quarterback to put the team first in

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Speaker 2: that situation. You know, just remind yourself that, you know,

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Speaker 2: if I'm not out here, then you know, I can't

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Speaker 2: really help us win. So we'll keep addressing it. But

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Speaker 2: think he knows to talk about.

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Speaker 1: The broadcast about STEP's abilities to shoot theages from a

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Speaker 1: wide receivers perspective, what does that need and why is

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Speaker 1: steps in there in there? It takes time to learn.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about it all we want in the

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Speaker 2: meetings and and show them examples of that. Defensive backs

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Speaker 2: in those contested catch situations are usually taught to mirror

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Speaker 2: the hands of the receiver, so as soon as you

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Speaker 2: bring your hands up, then they can either go through

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Speaker 2: the pocket, bring some a hand down, try to get

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Speaker 2: the ball out, because you're basically telling them that the

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Speaker 2: ball's arriving. And so I think the really good receivers

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Speaker 2: that you see in this league that in a contested situation,

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Speaker 2: especially on the boundary that's where normally they take place,

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Speaker 2: they just basically hold it to the very last second

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Speaker 2: and don't give the defensive back any opportunity to play

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Speaker 2: through the pocket and create an incompletion. So Randy was

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Speaker 2: spectacular at it, probably the best I've ever seen when

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Speaker 2: we had him here, And I know I didn't teach

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Speaker 2: them how to do that, so it was just, you know,

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Speaker 2: these guys are really skilled guys, and when there's a

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Speaker 2: ball in the air and they see it and they

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Speaker 2: know they're in tight situation like that, it's really up

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Speaker 2: to the guy to try to hide the fact.

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Speaker 1: That the ball's coming, you know, in the air.

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Speaker 2: We last week we talked about the back shoulders, and

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Speaker 2: this one's a different type of play where the corner

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Speaker 2: really you can tell them when the ball's coming, or

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Speaker 2: you can try to hide it as late as you can.

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Speaker 2: And I thought Steph did a great job on the

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Speaker 2: one on Sunday, Josh.

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Speaker 1: How formidable is Cleveland's front four?

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Speaker 2: Like you look at them on the team this week?

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Speaker 2: Very This is bigger challenges we've had all year, no question,

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Speaker 2: just I think they're the front four is exceptional.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just Miles.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's one of the truly great players in

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Speaker 2: the league, no question about it, and presents all kinds

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Speaker 2: of issues. But I think their front in general is

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Speaker 2: very disruptive. There's a penetrating front. They're going to try

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Speaker 2: to get into the backfield and create negative runs. They

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Speaker 2: this as good of a pass rush as we've seen.

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Speaker 2: Uh In total, linebackers are super fast, and because you

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Speaker 2: spend so much time trying to block the four guys

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Speaker 2: on the ball, they have a lot of opportunities to

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Speaker 2: run and tackle, you know, and they do a great

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Speaker 2: Young kid inside does a great job of getting everybody

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Speaker 2: connected and set in the defense. Secondaries sticky in coverage.

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Speaker 2: They play a good chunk of man and man coverage,

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Speaker 2: probably as much as we've seen from any opponent this year,

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Speaker 2: blended in with their different zone calls. And they also

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Speaker 2: are very adept at reading the fact that the rush

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Speaker 2: is getting close. And so the sign of a good

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Speaker 2: defense to me is when they're all kind of connected

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Speaker 2: It seems like the secondary always knows it, and so

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Speaker 2: then they get tighter and then they're ready for the

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Speaker 2: ball to be thrown. So just i'd say, and coach

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Speaker 2: Schwartz has always.

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Speaker 1: Done a tremendous job.

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Speaker 2: So this is one of the best coached units in

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Speaker 2: all of football. Certainly the way they play, physical, fast, aggressive,

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Speaker 2: really good football players at all three levels, challenging on

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Speaker 2: and obviously statistically pick one, you know, and they're at

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Speaker 1: So regarding Jim Schwartz and his use of Garret.

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Speaker 2: What what's you're doing differently with Miles Garrett?

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Speaker 1: He you know, he you want him to be in

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Speaker 1: one spot, but he's not, you know, so.

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Speaker 2: That you start with that, you know, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: always a little simpler if you can say, well, he's

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Speaker 2: going to be in this spot only, and that's not

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Speaker 2: the case. You know, more one spot than the rest.

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Speaker 2: But we've shown our guys they're all going to have

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Speaker 2: to block him, and they're all gonna have.

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Speaker 1: To be ready to block him.

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Speaker 2: So moving him is one thing, you know, And and

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Speaker 2: he understands how people try to play him.

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Speaker 1: You can just see the player.

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Speaker 2: We played him a number four or five years ago

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Speaker 2: and you just see him when you're watching film. Now.

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Speaker 2: He's grown too because he can tell what people are

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Speaker 2: trying to do to disrupt him. So he's got counter

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Speaker 2: moves to their counter moves. And it's pretty cool to

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Speaker 2: watch that match matchup happen from game to game with him.

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Speaker 2: But he's he's in. He can he can win on

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Speaker 2: the interior, he can win on the edge. He can

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Speaker 2: play on the right, you know, he certainly plays on

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Speaker 2: find some opportunities to get singles is certainly the sure.

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Speaker 1: Of their goal, and they do a great job of it.

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Speaker 1: One game was a lot more efficient than students. What

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Speaker 1: was working.

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Speaker 2: How do you ensure you can keep the ball rolling against.

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Speaker 1: The formidable defense? I thought, you know, the guys deserve

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Speaker 2: You know, again, we've we've stayed patient and consistent with

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Speaker 2: our approach in terms of trying to improve the things

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Speaker 2: that make the running game go, you know, and it

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Speaker 2: really it's not a it's not a complicated formula. It's

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Speaker 2: just getting people blocked, staying on blocks, playing with great

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Speaker 2: runners reading it right. I thought Andre really did a

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Speaker 2: good job of pushing the pile a few times.

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Speaker 1: And created some dirty yards.

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Speaker 2: But I just you know, the guys are continuing to

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Speaker 2: work at those kind of things. You know, there's no

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Speaker 2: physicality and toughness. You know that we can't always practice

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Speaker 2: and pads. So you know, I thought our double teams

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Speaker 2: had some good blocks from the receivers at the second level,

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Speaker 2: just got to keep keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: This week will be a.

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Speaker 2: Totally different style of defense, you know, So this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit of a different challenge, but

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless. Factors in the run game, But did you see

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Speaker 1: any you know, common themes scheme wise that kid a

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Speaker 1: still too much noise within the numbers to say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I think, well, I think you're we're always learning about

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Speaker 2: what we're I think we know what we're.

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Speaker 1: What we've shown to be best at yet.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot of reasons to continue

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Speaker 2: to try to get better at other things, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody loves it when we run a boot leg,

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Speaker 2: you know, you got to continue to try to work

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Speaker 2: at some of those things if they're giving you something

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Speaker 2: over here. Same thing with play action passes when you're

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Speaker 2: running interior run, you know you can. You know, Mac

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Speaker 2: Collins had a thirty yard gain on an inside you

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Speaker 2: know run action and we hit him for a you know,

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Speaker 2: inside pass and it's you know, that's great, you know,

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Speaker 2: but if you never run that run, then they're not

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Speaker 2: going to play that, you know, that way. So I

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Speaker 2: think there's a balance between continue to try to work

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Speaker 2: at something that you're you just don't think that you're

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Speaker 2: ever going to turn the corner on and the other

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Speaker 2: things where you're saying, you know what, we're close on this,

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Speaker 2: we just got to do a few things better. And

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Speaker 2: I would say this is too early in the season

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Speaker 2: got to throw it out and never come back to it.

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Speaker 1: You know. So I think we know what we've done

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Speaker 2: I think there's other things we want to try to

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Speaker 2: improve and get better at. I don't think that's dissimilar

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Speaker 2: to any other year that I've coached, though. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you usually are better at something in October than you

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Speaker 2: are something else, and you know, at some point here

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Speaker 2: you make a decision about whether or not to continue

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Speaker 1: Is there anything specific with Trevion Henders and that you're

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Speaker 1: was it just kind of circumstances in this last game

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Speaker 2: I mean Madre Madre Runners are kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: he just got you get into a rhythm, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: that happens, you know, And I know Travion's let us

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Speaker 2: and carries and other games, and certainly Mandre did last week,

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Speaker 2: so you know, there's nothing specific. I think all those

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Speaker 2: active role in us improving ourselves in a running game.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody wants to point out, you know, this

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Speaker 2: a cohesion that has to exist between the blockers and

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way you get better. So expect

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Speaker 1: you know, all those guys.

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Speaker 2: Dottrell went in there and did some good things at

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Speaker 2: the end too, So continue to expect the runners to

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Speaker 2: be pretty said something after the game the other day

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Speaker 2: about how you know he's not trying to be to

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Speaker 2: check down Charlie.

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Speaker 1: I think he was asked about throwing balling out of

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Speaker 1: the field. Is this a week where you might encourage

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Speaker 1: him to maybe as good as he's been down the.

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Speaker 2: Field, dial back some of his aggressiveness just because the

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Speaker 1: Backfield pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the opponent always has something

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Speaker 1: There's no question about.

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Speaker 2: That, and I think I think I didn't hear the comment,

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Speaker 2: but I think that in general, you know, look, if

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Speaker 2: he has a chance, great, and you know there's certain

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Speaker 2: plays where you call him and you don't expect the

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Speaker 2: ball to go forty yards down the field, but the

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Speaker 2: defense gave him an opportunity, and I think you don't

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Speaker 2: ever want to take that away from the passer. Is

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Speaker 2: his ability to see the deep part of the field

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Speaker 2: and see the coverage and then it presents an opportunity

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Speaker 2: even though maybe he didn't call it for that reason,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you take advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: So I think we want to continue to do that.

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Speaker 2: And I think the biggest thing is is if he

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Speaker 2: starts making mistakes.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about just Drake. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: any quarterback.

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Speaker 2: If they start to make mistakes throwing the ball down

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Speaker 2: the field into coverage and there's a bunch of interceptions

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Speaker 2: and really bad decisions, then you know you're probably forcing

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Speaker 2: the ball too much. If you're throwing the ball well

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Speaker 2: down the field, it probably means the passers seeing it

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Speaker 2: well and then trying to take advantage of it when

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Speaker 2: it's presented. And I think that's what we want them

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Speaker 2: to continue to do and understand that the rush will dictate.

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Speaker 2: You know at times, especially this week, you know that

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Speaker 2: we may need a few of those Charlie checkdowns. Okay, yep,

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Speaker 2: thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: Thanks