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Speaker 2: Welcome. In episode one eighty What's Right with Nick Wright
Speaker 2: NFL Week three Reaction Show. We've got a ton to
Speaker 2: get to a Monday night football doubleheader. The Prince that
Speaker 2: was promised is still promised, but as Demanse said, he's
Speaker 2: not been very profitable. We'll get to that. The most
Speaker 2: dumbant and half in the NFL all season was played
Speaker 2: this weekend, and it was not in the game where
Speaker 2: a team scored seventy points. We'll get to that, but
Speaker 2: first before we even bring in demons, here's.
Speaker 3: What missed the cut.
Speaker 2: Derek Carr week to week with a shoulder injury. That's
Speaker 2: not on today's show. Meghan Rapino plays her final game
Speaker 2: for the US women's national team. That is, she is
Speaker 2: an international legend in an American legend and Coach Prime
Speaker 2: and Colorado get blown out by Oregon, and oh boy,
Speaker 2: it doesn't get any easier as Caleb Williams heads to
Speaker 2: Boulder this Saturday afternoon and is gonna hang sixty on them. Listen.
Speaker 2: I like Coach Prime, I like the story of the Buffalos,
Speaker 2: but USC is gonna roll them over Demonse real quick.
Speaker 2: And I know tomorrow Thursday's the Gambling Show. You can't
Speaker 2: blame Trevor for your teaser dying when wasn't a leg
Speaker 2: of it the Baltimore Ravens And didn't they lose outright?
Speaker 3: The Ravens played the Bolts and the Jags played the Texans.
Speaker 2: I get that, But even if Trevor had taken care
Speaker 2: of business, wouldn't your teaser have still lost? I feel
Speaker 2: like you're lashing out at Trevor and by the track
Speaker 2: see me when?
Speaker 3: But C J. Strouds clearly that guy. I give him
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt at this point. Wow, but wow, dude,
Speaker 3: you don't have to you guys, don't have to tell
Speaker 3: me I will not be including the Jags in any
Speaker 3: more bets. Uh no, no need to put a ban
Speaker 3: on it. It's done.
Speaker 2: Can I just ask you a quick question before we
Speaker 2: get into the show. Did you make more than one
Speaker 2: wager this weekend?
Speaker 3: No, that was the other one.
Speaker 2: It was just the one. Was the regular size or
Speaker 2: did you go a little harder because you won last week?
Speaker 3: No, it was about the regular size.
Speaker 2: I mean about okay, so maybe a touch or maybe
Speaker 2: a touch? You go ahead, You just seem.
Speaker 3: I was I mean, I was just blindsided by this.
Speaker 3: I expected these guys go out there and take care
Speaker 3: of business. But hey, the Ravens didn't either. But at
Speaker 3: least they took the game to overtime. Man. But hey, dude,
Speaker 3: yeah it is.
Speaker 2: That is true because you teased the Ravens game and
Speaker 2: you only needed them essentially to win. Outright, that bet
Speaker 2: was a line in it. In it, But now flip
Speaker 2: side galaxy brain it. Before we get to Monday Night football,
Speaker 2: imagine if Trevor had taken care of business and that
Speaker 2: was an easy win. How excruciating watching the Ravens miss
Speaker 2: a sixty yardfield goal that looked like it was good,
Speaker 2: then get the ball in overtime, not get the call
Speaker 2: going their favor. How it would have been so much
Speaker 2: more painful. Instead, the Jags just killed you pretty quickly
Speaker 2: and easily, painlessly, just shot to the back of the head.
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, there's a loss, So the bright side, right,
Speaker 2: didn't let the Ravens tear your heart out?
Speaker 3: No? If that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to Monday night football. What are
Speaker 2: we starting with?
Speaker 3: All right? So Joe Burrow played through his calf injury
Speaker 3: and barely beat the Rams. He said the risk of
Speaker 3: reinjury wasn't greater than the risk of going zero to three.
Speaker 3: So now the Bengals go to Tennessee in Arizona. Whether
Speaker 3: it'll be favorite in both games? Are Joe Burrow and
Speaker 3: the Bengals back?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I don't, not at all.
Speaker 2: They look back to anybody yesterday. I mean, listen, I
Speaker 2: don't blame Joe for this, but he can't throw the
Speaker 2: ball down the field because of his injury. He can't
Speaker 2: roll out of the pocket because of his injury. He
Speaker 2: can barely protect himself because of his injury. And this
Speaker 2: is why I think the Bengals are making a massive mistake.
Speaker 2: I think they could have won yesterday without Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: I understand he threw the ball like fifty times, but
Speaker 2: and again I am not taking a shot at him.
Speaker 2: He is an injured player. And there's only one Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: There's only one guy that, even on one leg, is
Speaker 2: still the best quarterback in football. Listen, It's just true,
Speaker 2: and so any other player would be And maybe Mahomes
Speaker 2: with a calf injury as opposed to a half broken ankle,
Speaker 2: would have been compromised. I have my doubts, but everybody
Speaker 2: else is going to be compromised. Joe shouldn't have been
Speaker 2: out there. And not only did you put him out there,
Speaker 2: but in a game where the Rams cannot move the ball,
Speaker 2: you asked Joe Burrow to drop back. He dropped back
Speaker 2: fifty four times, forty nine pass attempts, sacked twice, ran
Speaker 2: the ball three times. That's fifty four dropbacks. And the
Speaker 2: reason I think this is foolish is because if your
Speaker 2: goal is the Super Bowl in since which it clearly is,
Speaker 2: the only way to reach that goal is to have
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow be healthy at the end, and by playing
Speaker 2: him right now, I think you're almost guaranteeing this calf
Speaker 2: issue is going to linger all year long, potentially get worse.
Speaker 2: And now you might say, well, what good is he
Speaker 2: healthy if we miss the playoffs? Understand, but when you
Speaker 2: have the Rams, the Titans, and the Cardinals and then
Speaker 2: they have I think then they have a tough game
Speaker 2: and then the bye, it's Rams, Titans, Cardinals, then home
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks and then a bye. You could have
Speaker 2: asked Jake Browning and the rest of your team, can
Speaker 2: they get you to two and two through these four
Speaker 2: and then be two and four and alive with a
Speaker 2: healthy Joe Burrow? They win in another direction and the
Speaker 2: guy's throwing the ball four yards past the line of
Speaker 2: scrimmage on average. I just don't think it's a sustainable model.
Speaker 2: I worry for Joe. Everybody is talking about, oh my goodness,
Speaker 2: he could. You know, a calf can lead to an achilles,
Speaker 2: and that's true, but set that aside, demons. You know
Speaker 2: what a calf injury can lead to in the NFL
Speaker 2: A broken colares, yeah, but a broken collar bone. You
Speaker 2: know why, because you can't escape and somebody can get
Speaker 2: hit exactly like everybody's talking about the achilles because Rogers
Speaker 2: had the calf strain popped his achilles. Durant had a
Speaker 2: calf strain popped his achilles. I get that, but the
Speaker 2: idea that that's the only injury it can lead to
Speaker 2: disregards the fact that this is a contact sport in
Speaker 2: the exactly in the NBA, all you really worry about
Speaker 2: with the that a calf will turn into an achilles.
Speaker 2: But in the NFL, a calf can turn into a
Speaker 2: separated shoulder. A calf can turn into anything because Aaron
Speaker 2: Donald and next week Jeffrey Simmons are bearing down on
Speaker 2: you and throwing you to the ground. And so I
Speaker 2: listen Joe Burrow. I know there's this like Bengals Chiefs rivalry,
Speaker 2: and so people think I'm anti Bengals. I am not
Speaker 2: anti Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow has always conducted himself awesome.
Speaker 2: He's been a clutch player, He's been great. I think
Speaker 2: he's super cool. I like the way he carries him
Speaker 2: all of that, and I think what's I think right
Speaker 2: now is an example of the team needing to protect
Speaker 2: him from himself. And I don't think he is the
Speaker 2: gap between Joe Burrow and Jake Browning. Browning was a
Speaker 2: really good college player who's thrown one pass in the NFL,
Speaker 2: so I have no idea if he's gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: even be a league average backup. The gap between Burrow
Speaker 2: and Browning is me but the gap between this version
Speaker 2: of Joe Burrow and Browning might not be. And I
Speaker 2: I just think Cincinnati is doing the wrong thing here
Speaker 2: in a week where we saw Gardner Minshew come in
Speaker 2: and beat the Ravens, where we saw Andy Dalton come
Speaker 2: in and play fine, where we saw Jameis Winston come
Speaker 2: in off the bench and lead a drive that put
Speaker 2: him in field goal range. They ended up losing, but
Speaker 2: let a drive that put them in field goal range. Like,
Speaker 2: I just I think it's a mistake.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, all right, Philly is three and oh
Speaker 3: after dominating Baker in the Bucks reality set in Baker
Speaker 3: Mayfield's not going seventeen and oh, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think anybody thought he was going seventeen And oh.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, you didn't think that.
Speaker 2: No, I like Baker, I didn't think he was going undefeated.
Speaker 2: I did think they could win last night. I was
Speaker 2: wrong on that, But.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, that's what she thought. All right, Well, meanwhile,
Speaker 3: Dallas got smoked by Arizona and dak keeps having melow downs.
Speaker 3: Do you regret picking the Dallas Cowboys to get past
Speaker 3: his Philly team in the NFC East.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I still think Dallas wins the division. Now,
Speaker 2: Week three was obviously a disaster for Dallas, and we'll
Speaker 2: talk about Filly in a moment. Dallas, I'm not excusing
Speaker 2: how the defense played, but I understand how the defense
Speaker 2: played because I do think there is a real emotional
Speaker 2: toll taken by Trayvon Diggs popping his achilles in a
Speaker 2: practice late in the week that can have a real
Speaker 2: effect on that team for ninety six hours in a
Speaker 2: way that the defense is not what you expected it
Speaker 2: to be. So I can deal with that part of Dallas.
Speaker 2: The part of Dallas that is inexcusable is the fact
Speaker 2: that in this game, they moved the ball, They had
Speaker 2: over four hundred yards of offense, They got in the
Speaker 2: red zone five times, and they scored sixteen points. That
Speaker 2: is the most red zone that no team in the
Speaker 2: last two years has gotten in the red zone five
Speaker 2: or more times and scored fewer than Dallas's sixteen points
Speaker 2: in the second half. They had trips that ended on
Speaker 2: the eight, the four, the eight, and the six yard
Speaker 2: line and came away with six points. That's pathetic. So
Speaker 2: that and so Dak needed to be better, McCarthy needed
Speaker 2: to be better, Pollard needed to be better. That's pathetic.
Speaker 2: The Eagles, on the other hand, last night, I give
Speaker 2: them credit man that their fronts, they might have the
Speaker 2: best offensive line in football and they might once again
Speaker 2: have the best defensive line in football. And the fact
Speaker 2: that they got Jalen Carter, they made the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and they got the guys who a lot of people
Speaker 2: thought was the single best player in the draft because
Speaker 2: he fell because of off field concerns, to put it mildly,
Speaker 2: and then the Bears are sitting there at nine. They
Speaker 2: trade back a spot and let the Eagles jump up
Speaker 2: and get Jalen Carter. Is a kind of insult to
Speaker 2: injury for Bears fans who are having a terrible season.
Speaker 2: With all that said about Philadelphia their fronts, I still
Speaker 2: have major questions about their ability to defend the downfield
Speaker 2: passing game. Baker could not take advantage of it in
Speaker 2: the rain, with Mike Evans dropping balls and Baker not
Speaker 2: having a good night, and Jalen Hurts is not playing well.
Speaker 2: The team's playing fine, Jalen is not playing well. Jalen
Speaker 2: on the year, three picks, three touchdowns. He is not
Speaker 2: as big as dynamic of a rusher he was last year.
Speaker 2: He's got an eighty four passer rating and teams are
Speaker 2: kind of daring him to throw the football. And even
Speaker 2: last night where he finally had a big yardage game
Speaker 2: two seventy seven, his first game all year throwing more
Speaker 2: than two hundred yards, he got picked off twice. He completed,
Speaker 2: you know, like fifty eight percent of his passes, and
Speaker 2: there was some sloppiness there. So I do have I
Speaker 2: do think that the Cowboys obviously looked terrible this weekend
Speaker 2: and there's no denying that, and the Eagles just got
Speaker 2: kind of a gritty win. But I am not ready
Speaker 2: to pencil the Eagles back in the super Bowl. With
Speaker 2: that said again, that the fact that they were able
Speaker 2: to get Jalen Carter go to the Super Bowl and
Speaker 2: get a guy that a lot of people thought was
Speaker 2: the single best player in the draft is an all
Speaker 2: time coup. It's an all time coup by them that
Speaker 2: will pay dividends for years and years. One other thing
Speaker 2: about the Eagles, And this isn't really about the Eagles.
Speaker 2: It's about the NFL. I said it six months ago,
Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I will eventually be proven right
Speaker 2: that tush push play is a blight on the league.
Speaker 2: It's bad for the sport. It should not be allowed.
Speaker 2: It is I'm listen, here's the question. It's terrible, and
Speaker 2: the question I would ask everyone that says, oh, just
Speaker 2: get better, get tougher, get stronger, learn to stop it.
Speaker 2: Let me ask this question. If Philadelphia perfected it to
Speaker 2: a degree where instead of being a guaranteed one or
Speaker 2: two yards, it was a guaranteed four or five yards,
Speaker 2: would the NFL outlaw And the answer is yes, Why
Speaker 2: because it would ruin the sport because it would change
Speaker 2: it would if they could, if they could get four
Speaker 2: or five yards on that every single play, it would
Speaker 2: be the only play they would run, and it would
Speaker 2: ruin the watchability of the NFL. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, pro football is the entertainment business. You have
Speaker 2: the ugliest play in the sport that is actually a
Speaker 2: play from another sport. It is a rugby play, It
Speaker 2: is a first cousin of a baseball team signing a
Speaker 2: two foot twelve or ten inch tall guy to go
Speaker 2: up to bat because he has no strike zone and
Speaker 2: he would get an instant walk.
Speaker 3: Like that said, why why are the Eagles the only
Speaker 3: team doing this? Why haven't other team started doing this
Speaker 3: as well?
Speaker 2: Because the Eagles have the best center in the league,
Speaker 2: and they have they have the means to do it.
Speaker 2: But other teams there's another reason they get there. There's
Speaker 2: another reason. I think they are foolishly putting their quarterback
Speaker 2: at risk of injury in a way a lot of
Speaker 2: other teams are not comfortable. I And every time you
Speaker 2: see that play and it's eleven guys on the defense
Speaker 2: trying to attack Jalen Hurts, knowing what he's gonna do,
Speaker 2: and then three of his own teammates pushing him from
Speaker 2: the back, it is to me a very risky play.
Speaker 2: But more importantly, it's an ugly play and the NFL
Speaker 2: eventually will ban it. They will and if they got
Speaker 2: too good at it, like the only reason it was
Speaker 2: not banned last year is because they have not gotten
Speaker 2: good enough at it. If they could get four yards
Speaker 2: on it with the consistency, then get a yard and
Speaker 2: a half. It would be the only play they ran.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say one other thing that people are
Speaker 2: gonna say is crazy, but I believe it. I bet
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts doesn't like it, Demonse, not only not only
Speaker 2: because it can be painful, but it's a little it's
Speaker 2: not it's not embarrassing because he's it's his strength that
Speaker 2: but it is. It's there is an element of like,
Speaker 2: this is what we gotta do. It's like there's an
Speaker 2: element of like spamming the same play call in Madden, like, oh,
Speaker 2: you found a little loophole and you're just gonna go,
Speaker 2: go go. I don't know, I am. What I do
Speaker 2: know is this It is not going to be in
Speaker 2: the league five years from now. It might not be
Speaker 2: in the league six months from now. I'm very surprised
Speaker 2: the Competition Committee didn't eliminate it this offseason and again
Speaker 2: they once upon a time, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I think they're doing it in the Super Bowl. Like
Speaker 3: there's it's a long way from getting from getting banned.
Speaker 2: It's like if they allow they talked about I mean
Speaker 2: they talked about it this offseason. They left it. But
Speaker 2: it's very simple to ban, which is just say you
Speaker 2: can't push the ball carrier. They already have a rule
Speaker 2: that you can't pull the ball carrier. That's a rule
Speaker 2: on the books. You can't get in front of the
Speaker 2: ball carrier and pull him if you're on offense. And
Speaker 2: they once upon a time they had a rule saying
Speaker 2: you can't push him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: The fact that they're not bringing that back is very
Speaker 2: surprising to me. All right.
Speaker 3: Next, they also went thirty seven for forty one doing
Speaker 3: that last year, by the way.
Speaker 2: And this year this year they're six of seven and
Speaker 2: the only one they didn't get either a first down
Speaker 2: or a touchdown was when the most the reason I'm
Speaker 2: talking about this is the one they failed yesterday was because, yes,
Speaker 2: not the fake, but the one they did yesterday. They
Speaker 2: had a third and two and a half, and they
Speaker 2: did it with no intent of picking up the first
Speaker 2: down there, but with the belief we're gonna do it,
Speaker 2: we're gonna get our yard yard and a half and
Speaker 2: then we're gonna do it again. And that's what they did.
Speaker 2: It was I mean, it's just it's just not pleasant
Speaker 2: football to watch, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, all right, Miami dropped seventy on the Broncos and
Speaker 3: probably could have scored a lot more. If we're being honest.
Speaker 3: They did all this without Jalen Waddle. Are the Dolphins
Speaker 3: now the biggest threats to your chiefs? To repeat they are?
Speaker 3: I'll answer that question for you.
Speaker 2: I need listen. I think the Dolphins. Everyone's very, very
Speaker 2: high on the Dolphins this week. Demon's a Dolphins are
Speaker 2: This is not my opinion. The Dolphins are in Buffalo
Speaker 2: this week. What do you think the line is?
Speaker 3: Dolphins, They're in Buffalo, They're in Buffalo. Uh, Bill's minus
Speaker 3: two and a half.
Speaker 2: Nailed it, great job, got it to the exactly so.
Speaker 2: The reason I end so, the reason I bring that
Speaker 2: up is the idea that the Dolphins have separated themselves
Speaker 2: from the entire NFL I think is inaccurate. Right, if
Speaker 2: there's still a team, If they're playing Buffalo, who's really
Speaker 2: really good obviously, and it's like, okay, Buffalo gets almost
Speaker 2: the typical home field advantage, then Vegas does not yet
Speaker 2: fully buy in. Go ahead, you want to say something.
Speaker 2: You seem to have fully bought in on Miami.
Speaker 3: Go Ahead, definitely bought in on Miami. But what I
Speaker 3: will say is I think that it'll I think by
Speaker 3: the end of the year. I think the Broncos kind
Speaker 3: of came into this year with a little bit of
Speaker 3: juice and like people thought that they were a little
Speaker 3: bit better than they are, and the defense has obviously
Speaker 3: been the only thing that they've had going for them.
Speaker 3: But I think at the end of the year, we'll
Speaker 3: find out that the Broncos were like a really, really
Speaker 3: bad team. And I also think that at the end
Speaker 3: of the year that if TUIs stays healthy, they we're
Speaker 3: going to find that the Dolphins are probably one of
Speaker 3: the two best teams in the NFL. So it'll just
Speaker 3: make more sense why that score makes.
Speaker 2: More since that listen, I think that's I think that
Speaker 2: analysis is mostly correct, and now seventy is still seventy,
Speaker 2: But allowing a team to run for three point fifty
Speaker 2: is more to find If you're the Denver Broncos, they
Speaker 2: appeared to get They allowed seven hundred and twenty yards
Speaker 2: of Dolphins that I've never seen and my and I
Speaker 2: let's just remove the Tua injury part from this part
Speaker 2: of the discussion. I so let's just say he's going
Speaker 2: to be healthy all year. I there, this is the
Speaker 2: reason that when everybody was high on the Jets and
Speaker 2: some were still high on the Bills. I picked Miami
Speaker 2: to win this division. Miami Vic Fangio is gonna try
Speaker 2: to get that defense right. They should have Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 2: hopefully back by the end of the year. And they
Speaker 2: have the six fastest runs in the NFL all year,
Speaker 2: the sixth fastest by next Gen Stats plays a guy
Speaker 2: with the ball in his hands for all teams all year,
Speaker 2: they are all Miami Dolphins. Three by Tyreek Hill, two
Speaker 2: by Moster, one by a chain I believe is what
Speaker 2: it is. But the six fastest tracked guys with the
Speaker 2: ball in their hands are six different Miami Dolphin plays.
Speaker 2: The speed is unbelievable. McDaniel is a genius, all right,
Speaker 2: I give them all that credit. Do Now I'm gonna
Speaker 2: sound like the old football guy. Sorry. Do I have
Speaker 2: a little concern about how this looks in the cold,
Speaker 2: in bad weather in the playoffs? Yeah? I do. You
Speaker 2: build a team based on raw speed. We have seen
Speaker 2: that work before. But the teams that we have seen
Speaker 2: at work for typically are dome teams, and the idea
Speaker 2: is we're gonna get home field, We're gonna play in
Speaker 2: controlled environments and we're gonna make a track meet the
Speaker 2: greatest show on turf, The Rams with Kurt Warner, the
Speaker 2: Colts with Peyton, the Vikings with Moss. The Falcons attempted
Speaker 2: this a couple of times. It is now. Miami has
Speaker 2: great weather obviously almost year round. But as I mentioned,
Speaker 2: they are, you know, they're underdogs this week in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: So in order the in order for me to truly
Speaker 2: believe that the Dolphins can keep this going for six months,
Speaker 2: I think they really really need to continue rolling in
Speaker 2: the regular season to try to make the playoffs go
Speaker 2: through Miami. The playoffs don't go through Miami, And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden they are like, I am curious. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the Browns for instance, Okay, you
Speaker 2: know that, but that defense has been the best in
Speaker 2: the league, the best in the league. I'm curious how
Speaker 2: this how this Miami team would look in January in
Speaker 2: Cleveland in that type of environment, Like I really am,
Speaker 2: and so I am not. I'm not throwing shade. I
Speaker 2: also want to know how good this defense is because
Speaker 2: they've played one good quarterback and he moved the ball
Speaker 2: at will until that final drive in Herbert, they had
Speaker 2: thirty four score thirty four points. Then you played Mac Jones,
Speaker 2: who stinks. Then you played Russell Wilson, who's not as
Speaker 2: bad as last year but still not very good. And
Speaker 2: so I am not ready to anoint them. But seventy
Speaker 2: points is seventy points now, amazingly despite scoring seventy I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, the most lopsided half of football this weekend
Speaker 2: was the Chiefs thirty four to nothing over the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: But we can keep going. What are the follow ups? Here?
Speaker 3: Bears the worst team in the NFL. But that must
Speaker 3: be's true? Ye, in your opinion, do you think two
Speaker 3: is officially more than a system quarterback or do we
Speaker 3: owe all of this to coach McDaniels also actually.
Speaker 2: All of it, but both of them, I mean, let
Speaker 2: me answer that quickly. I think it's both. I think
Speaker 2: he is a system quarterback, but he is playing this
Speaker 2: system as well as anyone could play it. No one
Speaker 2: right now. You can't argue right now, through three weeks that, oh,
Speaker 2: if the Dolphins had someone else, they'd be substantially better.
Speaker 2: Now win teams adjust, and I'm I'm waiting for the
Speaker 2: team that is going to do what we saw the
Speaker 2: I think it was the Chargers and someone else. Maybe
Speaker 2: they're not back. Not start up on the receiver, start up.
Speaker 3: Okay, so what the.
Speaker 2: Idea there is, Well, and we're gonna risk getting beat deep,
Speaker 2: but what we're gonna do is jam your receivers, throw
Speaker 2: off your timing a bit, and make to a hold
Speaker 2: onto the ball a little bit longer and then listen.
Speaker 2: The reason teams aren't doing that is they're so terrified
Speaker 2: of Tyreek or Waddle. Waddle wasn't even there this week
Speaker 2: of beating them off the line, and it's an easy touchdown.
Speaker 2: But they're just killing you eighteen yards at a time anyway.
Speaker 2: And two has only been sacked once all year. He's
Speaker 2: getting the ball out like that. You can't you can't
Speaker 2: just let them dice you up like this. So I'm
Speaker 2: very curious, and I wonder what Buffalo looks like against them,
Speaker 2: because the Buffalo Bills, to their credit, their front has
Speaker 2: looked awesome this whole season, and not just in this
Speaker 2: winning street. That defensive front has looked great. That's to
Speaker 2: me the game of the week. All right, what's the
Speaker 2: other follow up?
Speaker 3: On TV? You said the TUIs should reopen its contract
Speaker 3: negotiations because you see a mid season holdout.
Speaker 2: So I couldn't see it, but this is what I believe.
Speaker 2: So Tua was in the same draft class as Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow who got paid, as Justin Herbert, who got paid.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins were in a negotiation with him this offseason.
Speaker 2: It didn't get finished, and Chris Greer, their GM, has said,
Speaker 2: we're gonna table it till the end of the year. Okay,
Speaker 2: what do we also know? Demon's a that is a
Speaker 2: quick reminder for the audience. Since drafting Tua, the Miami
Speaker 2: Dolphins have tried to acquire Tom Brady to replace him,
Speaker 2: had a trade in place for Deshaun Watson to replace him.
Speaker 2: They were connected to Russell Wilson and briefly connected Daron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: And the Rogers thing was this offseason four times they've
Speaker 2: tried to replace him. The might let me let me
Speaker 2: throw something else out there. Let's say the Dolphins and
Speaker 2: Tua had not broken off negotiations and they were working
Speaker 2: on a deal headed into this past week's game against Denver,
Speaker 2: and they were close. It's like, okay, we you know,
Speaker 2: we need to work out some finer points, but we
Speaker 2: have the broad parameters agreed to right and in that
Speaker 2: but they haven't signed anything, and in that game Tua
Speaker 2: suffers another concussion. Would the Dolphins then stop the negotiations.
Speaker 2: The answer is of course they would. They'd say, you know,
Speaker 2: it's sorry, but it's too risky. Okay. Given all of that,
Speaker 2: would it not be totally reasonable for Tua to walk
Speaker 2: into their office and say I want my contract, and
Speaker 2: I want it before Sunday at one o'clock. And don't
Speaker 2: say I'm blowing this thing up. You guys would be
Speaker 2: blowing this thing up. You spent the fifth overall pick
Speaker 2: on me. I've been a perfect citizen. I have dealt
Speaker 2: with a coach in Flores who didn't believe in me.
Speaker 2: I've done everything right. Nine months ago I thought my
Speaker 2: career might be over. I now just hung seventy seventy
Speaker 2: points on a team people think we can win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I want real lifetime financial security, and if
Speaker 2: you don't give it to him, we're going to have
Speaker 2: a problem here. It would be totally reasonable, It would
Speaker 2: be totally understandable. And I don't think he's going to
Speaker 2: do it. I think if I were close with do
Speaker 2: it now, I might tell him Hey, if you do this,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get a record breaking contract. You're gonna
Speaker 2: sacrifice some of the contractual upside. You're not gonna beat
Speaker 2: Burrow or Herbert. But could he go to them and say,
Speaker 2: I want, you know, I'll be reasonable call it four
Speaker 2: years and instead of fifty five million a year, like
Speaker 2: guys are getting forty eight million a year with half
Speaker 2: of it guaranteed, one hundred million fully guaranteed at signing
Speaker 2: just under fifty million a year, I want it locked in.
Speaker 2: That would be reasonable. And if you know, if I
Speaker 2: were close with Dua, that's the advice I would give
Speaker 2: him personally.
Speaker 3: All right, Next, that's fair? All right? The Broncos are
Speaker 3: all three and are somehow favored against the Bears. Is
Speaker 3: Denver the biggest flop in the league? Or should more
Speaker 3: criticism go to a team like the Jets or the
Speaker 3: Vikings or Jacksonville or Jacksonville?
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Jacksonville's really disappointing. The Jacksonville is the
Speaker 2: only team on this list that I thought could be
Speaker 2: really good, and they allow a kick return touchdown to
Speaker 2: a damn full back. The defense has been pathetic. Trevor's
Speaker 2: been fine, but not great, which is disappointing. Now, Jacksonville
Speaker 2: obviously has a bit of a history of slow starts,
Speaker 2: and I'm not abandoning them, but they have been the
Speaker 2: most disappointing for me. The Vikings, we knew these close
Speaker 2: game chickens were coming home to roost oh and three sucks.
Speaker 2: But you go eleven to zero one score games last
Speaker 2: year headed into the playoffs, and then you lose a
Speaker 2: playoff game by one score in your first three games
Speaker 2: of the year by one score. That's that old variance coming,
Speaker 2: you know, regression to the mean if you will coming
Speaker 2: back into play that. The Jets and Broncos, the hype
Speaker 2: never made sense. And I know everyone's like, oh, with
Speaker 2: the Jets, it's just because of rogers injury, they're left
Speaker 2: tackles on ir Now Dwayne Brown. That would have happened
Speaker 2: with or without Rogers. Their whole plan for if Rogers
Speaker 2: got dinged was that Zach Wilson was gonna be better
Speaker 2: through some version of quarterbacking osmosis, where he was gonna
Speaker 2: get better just by being around Aaron Rodgers, which is
Speaker 2: about the same logic of I have a huge chemistry
Speaker 2: test in the morning, I'm gonna put my textbook under
Speaker 2: my pillow before I go to sleep, and hope the
Speaker 2: knowledge seeps into my brain. That's not how this works, guys.
Speaker 2: And there the whole offseason plan of just hiring Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers friends, whether it's your offensive coordinator Lazard Cobb, bringing
Speaker 2: in Tim Boyle as your backup quarterback, all of it.
Speaker 2: It's never made any sense. And the Jets, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: are getting to a degree what they kind of deserve. Here,
Speaker 2: go ahead, What were you about to say to them?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you know that they're not just saying
Speaker 3: just by being around him or I'm just standing around,
Speaker 3: like obviously they're having conversations, they're probably going through drills.
Speaker 3: Rogers has probably giving him his little little life hacks
Speaker 3: that come on the football whatever you want. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's not. But I was just speaking out because
Speaker 3: you know, like you're making it seem like, oh, just
Speaker 3: by standing here. But yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2: They thought being around Aaron was gonna make him better.
Speaker 2: He's been terrible, and I want to say something about
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle. So Tim Boyle, So here's the other thing,
Speaker 2: and put demons back on the screen, if you will,
Speaker 2: because I wanted to do. Monse's real time reaction to this.
Speaker 2: So Aaron Rodgers right there. They went into the season
Speaker 2: with a quarterback depth chart of Rogers awesome but thirty
Speaker 2: nine years old, coming off an injury, in the worst
Speaker 2: year of his career, with the biggest question mark of
Speaker 2: the team being offensive line. Then Zach Wilson statistically speaking
Speaker 2: objectively one of the worst quarterbacks ever. And then Tim Boyle. Okay,
Speaker 2: I then Rogers gets hurt and they do not add
Speaker 2: another quarterback. Think about how many teams this year have
Speaker 2: The Patriots just added Will Greer, how many quarterback moves
Speaker 2: there have been? The Packers had Aaron Rodgers go down,
Speaker 2: They've added no quarterbacks. Okay, so we know how bad
Speaker 2: Zach is, so why is he still playing? So Tim
Speaker 2: Boyle has been in this league since twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: He's thrown one hundred and six passes. Somehow of those
Speaker 2: one hundred and six passes, eight of them have been intercepted.
Speaker 2: That seems outgeous, but it's true. That's not the part
Speaker 2: of that I wanted your reaction to, because this is
Speaker 2: really does show you anything as possible, make the right relationships,
Speaker 2: get along with the right people, you can be in
Speaker 2: this league for six years. Demanse Tim Boyle played college
Speaker 2: football at the FBS, the top level, for three years
Speaker 2: at Yukon. He then transferred to Eastern Kentucky, a lower
Speaker 2: tier school.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: At Yukon, Demanse Tim Boyle played again three years in
Speaker 2: his career of top level college football. I swear to
Speaker 2: you he had one touchdown. Now you might say you might.
Speaker 2: Let's say, well, hold on, how much did he play?
Speaker 2: Was he just a backup? Demanse, You not. Tim Boyle's
Speaker 2: career at Yukon three years of playing, he had one
Speaker 2: touchdown and thirteen interceptions. Guys in the NFL. That's true story.
Speaker 2: He then went to Eastern Kentucky. Good, No, the team
Speaker 2: was terrible. He went to Eastern Kentucky, a FCS school,
Speaker 2: started the whole year and had eleven touchdowns and thirteen picks.
Speaker 2: This guy's been in the NFL for six years. You
Speaker 2: might say, why is he in the Jets quarterback room?
Speaker 2: The same reason Nat Hackett's there because he's rogers buddy,
Speaker 2: because he reportedly went on that Ayahuasca trip with Rogers.
Speaker 2: It's just no way to run a team. So you
Speaker 2: got it. You keep trotting Zach Wilson out there. You
Speaker 2: spent the number two overall pick on him. You don't
Speaker 2: want to admit he's terrible. You can't bench him because
Speaker 2: Tim Boyle couldn't figure out the defenses at Yukon or
Speaker 2: much less in the NFL. You're just rude. And then
Speaker 2: there's the Broncos who just allowed seventy points and the
Speaker 2: head coach who said that that Nat Hackett had the
Speaker 2: worst coaching job of all time is out there openly
Speaker 2: rebelling against Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson was in the game
Speaker 2: down seventy to twenty throwing passes. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: I mean, justin disaster all speaks ahead.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Broncos. Actually, yeah, Sean Payton, I think
Speaker 3: has just kind of brought brought the microscope on everything.
Speaker 3: You know, made this the coaching job heard around the world.
Speaker 3: Like you go out there and you say Nat Hackett
Speaker 3: has done the worst job in history. Then you go
Speaker 3: out there and you kick the on side kick the
Speaker 3: very first play of the season, and it's like it's
Speaker 3: he's just plagued the team he's played. I think he's
Speaker 3: doing a lot more damage than anything anybody else on
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. He certainly put a bullseye on
Speaker 2: his back when he didn't need to for it was
Speaker 2: just us an all time gaff. All right, last one.
Speaker 3: After you said Deshaun Watson would never be good again,
Speaker 3: he had his best game in years. Did you write
Speaker 3: him off a little too soon?
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is I added this to the show
Speaker 2: because of something I want to say here. First of all,
Speaker 2: the Browns defense has been phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. Now they
Speaker 2: haven't played the greatest collection of quarterbacks. I understand that
Speaker 2: they played Burrow in Week one, but Burrow was obviously hurt.
Speaker 2: Week two they played Kenny Pickett and they lose, but
Speaker 2: they lose because they allowed two defensive touchdowns. And Week
Speaker 2: three they play Ryan Tannehill. They have they have allowed
Speaker 2: one touchdown all year that Brown's defense. Credit to them
Speaker 2: and Deshaun despite the fact he had maybe the single
Speaker 2: worst play in the NFL all season in Week three
Speaker 2: when he was getting sacked and just threw the ball
Speaker 2: backwards inexplicably, he played the best game he's played in years.
Speaker 2: The best game he's played is a Brown So credit
Speaker 2: to him. The reason I wanted to mention the Browns
Speaker 2: here is because I want to say something to the
Speaker 2: general public. You can root for whoever you want. Teams,
Speaker 2: your team, got it, no problem, Love the art, hate
Speaker 2: the artist, all that stuff. The amount of people that
Speaker 2: are caping in my Twitter mentions for Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 2: not recognizing how that makes them look is baffling to me.
Speaker 2: I get it if you're like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: a diehard Browns fan. We're in a rough spot, but
Speaker 2: this is my team. I want us to do well.
Speaker 2: I don't don't even judge you for that at all.
Speaker 2: I get that sports can bring some odd moral quandaries
Speaker 2: at times, understand all that. But the amount of people
Speaker 2: led by the way oddly by a guy I like
Speaker 2: a lot fringe Hall of Famer Josh Cribbs, former Brown's legend,
Speaker 2: that are like, oh, Deshawn's really showing you like maybe
Speaker 2: maybe you know, maybe like man that defense kicks ass man.
Speaker 2: We sure rallied, you know one one for Nick Chubb,
Speaker 2: but it's just an odd guy to lionize, especially because
Speaker 2: I still don't think he's any good.
Speaker 3: But even you bring your guy bronze on his team,
Speaker 3: by the way.
Speaker 2: I don't love that. I know that is the and
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad look for him. I think
Speaker 2: it's a bad look like you can root for the
Speaker 2: team and not be caping for to show on and
Speaker 2: I listen, you feel very strongly about that. I I
Speaker 2: how do I agree with you while also understanding it.
Speaker 2: The potential unintended consequences of if someone is never actually
Speaker 2: even charged, much less convicted of a crime, banishing them
Speaker 2: from the league could have long term real you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, the butterfly effect and unintended consequences of
Speaker 2: that could be super problematic in this specific instance. I
Speaker 2: agree with you, but I understand why for the NFL
Speaker 2: that's not a tenable thing because there were never any
Speaker 2: legal charges and it certainly there wasn't any conviction. But
Speaker 2: I just but set that part aside. I just it's
Speaker 2: a weird guy to be, like, I'm to send this tweet,
Speaker 2: tell him this guy lead plant like, I don't know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he showed I don't get that at all, all right.
Speaker 2: I said, we had to go fascinate because there's gonna
Speaker 2: be construction outside Demontigs studio, and saving did a forty
Speaker 2: five minute a block, take a quick break, come right back.
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. In Demon's eight, we were on
Speaker 2: a time crunch here. I've got to go do the
Speaker 2: Herd with Colin and then got the show. I think
Speaker 2: there's massive construction scheduled right outside your window, so we
Speaker 2: gotta keep going. So let's go to our game. All
Speaker 2: in her fold, Go ahead.
Speaker 3: All in her fold? All right, So apparently Travis Kelcey
Speaker 3: or not Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift was at the Chiefs
Speaker 3: game this weekend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently undercovered story yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well, so my question for you, is is
Speaker 3: Kelsey officially a bigger celebrity than Mahomes.
Speaker 2: No, not yet, but if he and Taylor Swift were
Speaker 2: to become a serious long term item, he could be.
Speaker 2: I do think he is now. I do now think
Speaker 2: though that the two. I think the biggest celebrity in
Speaker 2: the NFL is Patrick Mahomes now that Tom Brady's retired,
Speaker 2: and I think the second is Travis Kelcey. I think
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey is a bigger celebrity than any other quarterback now.
Speaker 2: I also everybody is saying like, oh, if you're trying
Speaker 2: to find a negative, like, could this be a distraction?
Speaker 2: Could this be bad for the Chiefs? I look at
Speaker 2: it differently. I'm gonna make you laugh here, but this
Speaker 2: is maybe maybe this is the twisted version of my
Speaker 2: brain what I first thought of. Does this actually help
Speaker 2: the Chiefs with the Chris Jones negotiation? Can Travis be like, listen,
Speaker 2: there's pros and cons here, buddy, Like, yeah, I take
Speaker 2: a little less, but you see Taylor Swift. I say
Speaker 2: on my podcast that I wanted to go I wanted
Speaker 2: to give Taylor Swift my friendship bracelet. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: she's here, you think that's gonna happen for Sam Laporta
Speaker 2: in Detroit. No, it's not like there is you know,
Speaker 2: so Chris, you know who's the you got a celebrity
Speaker 2: crush you And I'm not sure if Chris is married
Speaker 2: or not. I apologize, Chris Jones. Are you sure? Are
Speaker 2: you just trying to make me feel bad to make
Speaker 2: you feel so? Yeah, I don't. I guess there. I
Speaker 2: guess the idea is there are so he is married?
Speaker 2: All right, So maybe not celebrity crush, but the fact
Speaker 2: that you can become internationally known being a part of
Speaker 2: this dynastic run. But Kelsey's not a bigger celebrity than Mahomes.
Speaker 2: I do think he's a bigger celebrity than everyone else
Speaker 2: in the league. Next, c J.
Speaker 3: Stroud is off to a record setting start for the Texans.
Speaker 3: Not only is he putting up stats, but he's also
Speaker 3: dethroning the monarchy all in her fold. A new prince
Speaker 3: rules the AFC South.
Speaker 2: Well, that's obviously ludicrous. But CJ. Stroud's been awesome, awesome,
Speaker 2: gotten better each game, been impressive in each game, and
Speaker 2: demonse My take on Stroud going into the draft was
Speaker 2: of all the quarterbacks highest floor lowest ceiling was that
Speaker 2: he was the least likely to be just a bust,
Speaker 2: but also the least likely of the three first rounders
Speaker 2: to be a star. It's not looking like that right now.
Speaker 2: He played well in his first game ever against Baltimore,
Speaker 2: played very well in his second game ever against the Colts,
Speaker 2: and played great last week or this past weekend against
Speaker 2: the Jags. He's down four of his starting offensive linemen. Listen,
Speaker 2: he's gonna have his ebbs and flows, but this kid is.
Speaker 2: This kid's something else, man. And we all made fun
Speaker 2: of the Texans for winning that final game of the
Speaker 2: year on the two point conversion, costing themselves the number
Speaker 2: one pick. Maybe that worked out for him because Stroud
Speaker 2: they would have taken Bryce at one, and they take
Speaker 2: Stroud and Bryce is dinged up and they won't let
Speaker 2: Bryce quarterback.
Speaker 3: Has he not thrown a pick yet?
Speaker 2: Not throwing a pick? Four touchdowns, zero picks in ninety
Speaker 2: eight ratings, sixty five completion percentage, seven and a half
Speaker 2: yards per attempt. He's played well, man, I give the
Speaker 2: guy credit, all right.
Speaker 3: Next down, seventeen down seventeen zero. In the fourth, Jordan
Speaker 3: Love let a banged up Packers squad to a victory
Speaker 3: over the Saints. All in unfold green Bay as their
Speaker 3: third franchise quarterback in a row.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not yet all in on that, and he's
Speaker 2: obviously I don't think he's gonna have a Farvard Rogers
Speaker 2: type of career. And he actually didn't play that great
Speaker 2: against New Orleans. But New Orleans has not allowed twenty
Speaker 2: points in eleven or more than twenty points in eleven
Speaker 2: straight games. That's an awesome defense. And while he didn't
Speaker 2: play great throughout, he did play great at the end.
Speaker 2: I mean, down seventy more than fourth quarter. Green Bay,
Speaker 2: by the way, did the two point gambit, which is
Speaker 2: such a smart thing where down fourteen, score a touchdown,
Speaker 2: go for two on the first one. So if you
Speaker 2: get it, then a touchdown wins you the game, and
Speaker 2: if you don't get it, then you have another opportunity
Speaker 2: to go for two. I I liked I picked the Packers,
Speaker 2: if you remember, to win the division going into the year,
Speaker 2: because I thought Love would be more than serviceable. He's
Speaker 2: been at least that he threw his first pick in
Speaker 2: this game, and he hasn't thrown for a ton of
Speaker 2: yards but seven touchdowns, one pick, a ninety five rating
Speaker 2: pretty solid. You've got to feel good if you're the Packers. Listen,
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be a superstar, but sitting behind Rogers
Speaker 2: seemed to help. That was three years of apprenticeship seem
Speaker 2: to help. He's really, I mean, he's he's a small,
Speaker 2: average NFL quarterback. Well, no, that's not Jordan loves. Sitting
Speaker 2: and learning for three years is different than three weeks
Speaker 2: of training camp. I mean it's maybe, yes, maybe, if
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson sat behind Rogers for three years, maybe would
Speaker 2: have picked up some things. He still wouldn't be good.
Speaker 2: But Love I think had a better baseline than Zach,
Speaker 2: and it worked. All right, go next?
Speaker 3: All right. Chargers coach Brandon Staley did everything that he
Speaker 3: could to lose to Minnesota, but Kirk Cousins melted down
Speaker 3: and bailed him out all in her fold. Staley should
Speaker 3: still get fired this Staley.
Speaker 2: Thing, So listen, Staley's done a terrible job, but everyone's
Speaker 2: killing him for this fourth down decision that was borderline
Speaker 2: at worst. Now, so they were up for on their
Speaker 2: own twenty four. They went for a fourth and one
Speaker 2: to end the game. They didn't get it. They could
Speaker 2: have lost going for it. There is a fine, totally
Speaker 2: defensible decision. No matter what all these old coaches on
Speaker 2: TV are going to tell you now, the play call
Speaker 2: a full back dive when you hadn't been able to
Speaker 2: run the ball at all all game. That was bad,
Speaker 2: but going for it was totally reasonable. What's frustrating to
Speaker 2: me is Sean McVay, who everyone loves rightfully so, made
Speaker 2: a far worse decision twelve hours ago. Sean McVay, down
Speaker 2: ten in the fourth quarter, with six minutes left in
Speaker 2: one timeout, fourth and five, punted the ball. That's quitting.
Speaker 2: That is saying we lose because even if everything works
Speaker 2: out perfectly after that, which it did, you get the stop,
Speaker 2: you go get a touchdown. What ended up happening they
Speaker 2: had to kick an on side kick because they didn't
Speaker 2: have all their timeouts because there wasn't enough time. So
Speaker 2: everything went perfect and they were still in an on
Speaker 2: side kick game. Sean McVay punting there indefensible. Josh McDaniels
Speaker 2: kicking that field goal that he kicked on Sunday Night
Speaker 2: Football indefensible. Staley's decision is contrary to the norms, but defensible.
Speaker 2: Everyone kills him for it last night, Fowler, who I
Speaker 2: like when the Rams only picked up five yards on
Speaker 2: third down again, and it's fourth and five, you're down ten,
Speaker 2: there's six minutes left, you have one time out. Fowler says, oh,
Speaker 2: and the Rams are forced to punt. No, they're not.
Speaker 2: They chose to punt, and so I again, I didn't
Speaker 2: like the play goal by Staley, but going for it
Speaker 2: there was not one of the four worst decisions coaches
Speaker 2: made in the NFL this week, and everyone just kills
Speaker 2: him for it.
Speaker 3: Next, do you think Minnesota should trade Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's maybe, if someone's willing to give
Speaker 2: you real draft capital and you want to start over, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would consider it. But because you're not going to
Speaker 2: bring him back this offseason, the problem is you didn't
Speaker 2: get Justin Jefferson locked down to a contract extension, and
Speaker 2: Jefferson might get pissed if you just totally punt on
Speaker 2: the season. Also, by the way, Cousins in this same
Speaker 2: game forgetting time and score after they got the ball
Speaker 2: to like the six yard line or seven yard line
Speaker 2: was the worst clock management I've seen from a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2: In a very very long time, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, the Patriots barely snuck away with a victory over
Speaker 3: gunslinging Zach Wilson. The Jets have reached out to other
Speaker 3: quarterbacks even though they are committed to Zach Wilson. All
Speaker 3: in our fold, Carson Wentz is better than Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: Every quarterback, Aveill was better than Zach Wilson. Most teams backups,
Speaker 2: some team's third stringers. All these guys are better than
Speaker 2: Zack Wilson. Again, everyone wants to. They're like, oh, we
Speaker 2: gotta be nice. We gotta be nice to Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: the human being, Zach Wilson, the football players. The worst
Speaker 2: quarterback I've ever seen repeatedly play. He's the worst, and
Speaker 2: every time you trot him out there, you are kneecapping
Speaker 2: your team. So yeah, of course I would have. I
Speaker 2: would have reached out to Carson Wentz the moment Rogers
Speaker 2: got hurt them. Not doing that is a beyond baffling decision.
Speaker 3: Next, the Raiders elected to kick a field goal before
Speaker 3: the two minute warning on Sunday night. Down eight points,
Speaker 3: all in a fold, it's time. It's time to throw.
Speaker 3: Time to throw analytics.
Speaker 2: Sorry, so obviously unfolding this. This is what is so
Speaker 2: frustrating to me. They went against the analytics, and analytics
Speaker 2: get blamed. There is no theorem or formula that says
Speaker 2: what they did was smart. All of it goes against it. Now, now,
Speaker 2: I do think there are instances where teams are foolish
Speaker 2: in treating a seven point deficit the exact same as
Speaker 2: an eight point deficit, meaning teams that act like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're down eight, so we're definitely only down one score.
Speaker 2: That's not true. You might be down two scores because
Speaker 2: the two point conversions are hard. And the Raider, if
Speaker 2: you were watching that game, they initially kicked the field
Speaker 2: goal with like four minutes left, down eight from like
Speaker 2: the thirty. I was totally fine with that call, but
Speaker 2: then there was a penalty. They accepted it. They adhim
Speaker 2: kicking field goal anyway from inside the ten. That was
Speaker 2: outrageous because they were so much closer and because of
Speaker 2: the time of the game, so treating a game. McDaniel's
Speaker 2: point was, we needed multiple scores to win the game,
Speaker 2: no matter what is correct. But all the analytical models
Speaker 2: hated him kicking a field goal in that spot in
Speaker 2: that scenario all right, Demonse, I've got one for you.
Speaker 2: The Ravens had a chance to win in regulation, justin
Speaker 2: Tucker's sixty one yarder fell short. They went on to
Speaker 2: lose in overtime. All in her fold, Demonse, you were
Speaker 2: too high on the Ravens.
Speaker 3: I don't think I was too high on the Ravens.
Speaker 3: I think that I think the Colts are a decent team.
Speaker 3: I was saying they could be a frisky team at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the year. I don't think they're bad.
Speaker 3: But uh, but yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: That really banged up right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we obviously have injuries, and I think
Speaker 3: that we have a chance to prove something playing that
Speaker 3: number one defense that you're talking about with the Browns.
Speaker 3: And we'll really see what's up in a week.
Speaker 2: So, but I want to say something about that game.
Speaker 2: J Feely was the third man in the booth for
Speaker 2: that game. I I have It's been a long time
Speaker 2: since I was more frustrated with an announcer than I
Speaker 2: was with Jay Feely in this game. If you were
Speaker 2: watching the end of Colt Ravens with sound on, you
Speaker 2: were treated. I thought Jay Feely was just there to
Speaker 2: give kicking analysis but Jay Feely was for the entirety
Speaker 2: of the part that I was watching with the sound on,
Speaker 2: which was the end of the fourth and the whole
Speaker 2: part of overtime, he was just he was just chiming
Speaker 2: in at every moment. He kept setting the Raven had
Speaker 2: the ball on their own forty nine yard line, Okay,
Speaker 2: that would be a sixty nine. It was their own
Speaker 2: forty eight, so that would be a seventy yard field goal. Okay.
Speaker 2: The all time record is sixty six. Sixty three stood
Speaker 2: forever Nan Tucker at a sixty six yarder in a dome.
Speaker 2: Feely was adamant that they were already in field goal range.
Speaker 2: Who was like, oh, Justin Tucker, you're in his field
Speaker 2: goal range. He can make it from here. It was
Speaker 2: a cold, rainy, outdoor game. And also, while Tucker is
Speaker 2: the best kicker I've ever seen, acting like anyone is
Speaker 2: automatic from sixty plus is lunacy, and acting like anyone
Speaker 2: can make a seventy yard is insanity. Also, it should
Speaker 2: be noted that Justin Tucker, over the last I think
Speaker 2: it's eight years of his career, is one of eight
Speaker 2: on sixty plus yarders. Nobody makes a lot of sixty yarders,
Speaker 2: but Pheely was telling us they're in his range from seventy.
Speaker 2: From seventy, Lamar took a sack and Pheelly was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, now he's out of his range. It's
Speaker 2: like he was not in his range yet. Then Lamar
Speaker 2: completes a big pass and gets them to the forty three.
Speaker 2: So now it's a sixty one yarder, and Pheey can't
Speaker 2: stop saying about, oh, Tucker is well within his range,
Speaker 2: well in his range. So then you watch him kick
Speaker 2: much and it's dead center. It's dead center, and Pheely,
Speaker 2: who's there just for the kicking analysis, has been telling
Speaker 2: us this guy can hit from seventy. So it's dead center,
Speaker 2: and it's obviously got plenty of lets. And so if
Speaker 2: you're watching it in your Ravens van and you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we won things four yards short, because
Speaker 2: of course it is, because it's a sixty one yarder
Speaker 2: in the rain outdoors. Then in overtime the Colts have
Speaker 2: the ball and again you need a touchdown to win
Speaker 2: the game. Okay, but Pheely is so is so caught.
Speaker 3: Up hype about his analysis. Dude, he's got hype situation
Speaker 3: at the end of the game.
Speaker 2: It was he was so he was the in fact,
Speaker 2: pardon me, it wasn't overtime. It was the end of regulation.
Speaker 2: Before the missed field goal. The Colts have the ball
Speaker 2: with a minute ten left, down three, and they have
Speaker 2: the ball in the thirty Baltimore's thirty, and Pheeley just
Speaker 2: keeps being like, oh, just be careful here, you're in
Speaker 2: Matt Gay's range. He can make this kick. Just don't
Speaker 2: take any negative plays to where James Lofton has to
Speaker 2: finally step in and be like, Jay, I think they're
Speaker 2: gonna try to score a touchdown because a field goal
Speaker 2: does not win the game. It was infuriating. It was
Speaker 2: totally infuriating. And if you're asking, am I extra annoyed
Speaker 2: at Jay Feely because let me see if I can
Speaker 2: find this, because once upon a time, let me see
Speaker 2: if I can find this real quick h He had
Speaker 2: deleted it that once upon a time, Jay Feely and
Speaker 2: I got into a Twitter argument because he was breaking
Speaker 2: the news that that the about China putting the United
Speaker 2: States into the newest depression fifteen years ago, because he
Speaker 2: was getting his news from I don't know, some Reddit thread,
Speaker 2: and I called him out on it, and I've been
Speaker 2: kind of waiting for a time to take a shot back. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's probably true, but it was just painful to listen
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Speaker 2: two months. All right, before we get to your questions,
Speaker 2: I have gone through the old Twitter archives and it
Speaker 2: is so great, uh, because I was able to find
Speaker 2: the I was able to find his response tweet to me.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I remember these things from twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: and he has deleted, of course, the missing for that
Speaker 2: I had called him on about essentially the US economy
Speaker 2: being on the brink of a depression because he had
Speaker 2: uncovered something from cnsnews dot com that the rest of
Speaker 2: the lame stream media had missed. But what he did
Speaker 2: not delete those twelve years ago when that story ended
Speaker 2: up not being accurate was the follow up, which is
Speaker 2: so perfect, the follow up tweet which is still up there,
Speaker 2: which is when I said, buddy, this is not true,
Speaker 2: like you're misleading people. You have a big platform. You
Speaker 2: shouldn't do it. From June third, twenty eleven at from
Speaker 2: j Feely at get nick right. When this comes out,
Speaker 2: you can tweet me your apology. Well, twelve and a
Speaker 2: half years later, it's yet to happen, so that apology
Speaker 2: is not coming. Now. Should I apologize for maybe taking
Speaker 2: some shots at a fellow broadcaster here, Maybe I would,
Speaker 2: but as Dusty are great stats producer for first things first,
Speaker 2: reminds me in the midst of telling us how Justin
Speaker 2: Tucker can hit from seventy yards right before he comes
Speaker 2: up short from sixty yards. Jay Peeley also repeatedly called
Speaker 2: him Jason Tucker. It's like, come on man, all right,
Speaker 2: Deman's what are our questions for today's show?
Speaker 3: First off, I want to apologize for the drills and
Speaker 3: bits going on in the background. They're fixing the check.
Speaker 3: I can't even hear ours outside. I can hear Okay,
Speaker 3: go ahead, all right, So chasing chasing Felix as well.
Speaker 3: This is also in reply to the toush push frant
Speaker 3: that you went on the league should ban the deep
Speaker 3: ball by Mahomes it's too good.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's so stupid. I'm not arguing it should
Speaker 2: be banned because it's effective. I'm arguing because it should
Speaker 2: be banned because it is the opposite of entertainment. And
Speaker 2: if you hack a sport that exists to get eyeballs
Speaker 2: on it, let me it would be again. It is
Speaker 2: seventy year years ago in Major League baseball, Bill Veck
Speaker 2: hired a small person, guy who was like two feet
Speaker 2: ten inches to be on his baseball team. Brought him
Speaker 2: up to the plate. You couldn't throw a strike because
Speaker 2: the strike zones this big. He got an automatic walk.
Speaker 2: Guess what Baseball did. They changed the rules immediately. You
Speaker 2: know why. They're like, well, this is bad for the sport.
Speaker 2: If all of a sudden there was someone in professional
Speaker 2: hockey who was large enough to just not move and
Speaker 2: block the entire goal, so we be like, well, you
Speaker 2: can't score on us. We found the biggest man ever
Speaker 2: to live, and he's gonna just sit there. They would
Speaker 2: change it that, you know, why, oh, why don't you
Speaker 2: find someone that big. Why don't you find a quarterback
Speaker 2: that strong? It's bad for the sport. The deep ball
Speaker 2: by Mahomes is the opposite of that, incredibly aesthetically pleasing
Speaker 2: what people want to see. I'm not gonna argue about
Speaker 2: this sea.
Speaker 3: By the way he's talking about him throwing the ball deep, is.
Speaker 2: That he was being a smartess. Yeah, that's just he
Speaker 2: was just being a smartess. But demonse I told America
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago. I have three types of opinions,
Speaker 2: immediately incontrovertibly correct, eventually incontrovertibly correct, and laughably wrong. This
Speaker 2: the NFL should ban. The tush push is a clear
Speaker 2: bucket too. It is a clear bucket too, eventually incontrovertibly correct.
Speaker 3: Next, all right, Ryan Fitzgerald said, a question for Nick,
Speaker 3: who would you rather have for the next five years?
Speaker 3: Party or Jordan Love. That's a really good question, Ryan,
Speaker 3: Jordan Love.
Speaker 2: Sure. Okay, if I'm the Niners, maybe it's different. But
Speaker 2: if you're saying, like I don't know what team they're
Speaker 2: going to be dropped into, I'd rather have Jordan Love.
Speaker 2: I think Jordan the I have more reasonab believe that
Speaker 2: Jordan Love could work in multiple systems than I do.
Speaker 2: Brock Perty. That's and and by the way, Jordan Love
Speaker 2: this week did it without his left tackle, did it
Speaker 2: without Aaron Jones, did it without Christian Watson. Brock Perty
Speaker 2: has never played a game in the NFL without Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey and those players around.
Speaker 3: Next, all right, uh, we got we got Jose. Nick
Speaker 3: looks like he's about to paint the house.
Speaker 2: I look good today, that's rude. I disagree with that. Danielle.
Speaker 2: Your mom's here, Demase and waiting for me because she's
Speaker 2: going to work with me today. She but she can't
Speaker 2: hear it because, uh, this is one of our viewers
Speaker 2: said I look like I'm about to go paint a house.
Speaker 2: She didn't. She says, send us, She says, Jose, send
Speaker 2: your outfit. She's doing a fit check Jose. I no
Speaker 2: longer have Demanse in my headphones to talk again. Demase, Uh, nope,
Speaker 2: I can't hear Demanse, which means show's probably about to
Speaker 2: be over, but Gabe will read. Gabe's last question says,
Speaker 2: I see red Eyes from Newark, Newark to Frankfurt for
Speaker 2: less than one thousand on November third, out of the
Speaker 2: Chiefs Fins games at Frankfurt Stadium. Not sure if they're
Speaker 2: lay down seats, so maybe not bougie enough for you.
Speaker 2: But should we go? Maybe we can hop a ride
Speaker 2: on Taylor Swift's PJ. First of all, I don't buy
Speaker 2: first class playing tickets, so I don't need lay down seats.
Speaker 2: This is another thing, Demons, your mom disagrees with me
Speaker 2: on She and in fact, the few times that I've
Speaker 2: been given first class seats on a flight that she's.
Speaker 3: On with me.
Speaker 2: She then takes it and I go sit in the
Speaker 2: seat that I actually bought. So a, I don't buy
Speaker 2: first class playing tickets. They're too expensive. I just think
Speaker 2: it's a waste of money. The smart move is by
Speaker 2: the front row of coach. You get all the same
Speaker 2: as first class except for no food. You know, all
Speaker 2: the leg room, and it's so much cheaper. Also, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to Germany for the football game. I'd love
Speaker 2: to go see Chiefs, Dolphins and Frankfurt, but I'm not
Speaker 2: going to Germany for the football game. All right, that
Speaker 2: is today's show. We will see you guys on Thirdnesday.
Speaker 2: I'll be on the Herd today in a few hours,
Speaker 2: and the first thing's vers of three. Thanks for listening.
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