1 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Focom in a jag zama. I'm kind of honest. 2 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Stephens, Brian sext and John Oder with me today we 3 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: go over preseason game number two had its New Orleans 4 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: over the weekend and the Jaguars looking much better than 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: what we saw in the first preseason games. Let's start 6 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: out with our big Things, presented to you by g 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: EH Government Employees Health Association, and it was practiced, not 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: perfect all this week. 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: They focused on two different things. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: First, they focused on the mental aspects of not making 11 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: mistakes alignment issues that they saw in the preseason game 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: number one, and Trevor talked about the focus on that 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: in practice this week. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: It was good, you know, just really we always harp 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: on the details, so I wouldn't say it's new in 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: that way. 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: You know. 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: I think this staff and everyone does a really good 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: job of stress and how important the details are, but 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: really letting that kind of drive practice. You know, if 21 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: anything was if anything was wrong, it was started over, 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 3: you know. And usually in practice you have those mistakes 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: every team, everyone does it and you kind of correct 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: them after. But you know, one of the days this week, 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: we really just started everything over when those things happened, 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: like we were, so we. 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 4: Were looking for all that. 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: The coaches did a good job of slowing it down, 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: So we slowed some of the tempo down as far 30 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: as post snap, but just really focusing on all the 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: pre snap stuff because you know, keep doing the same 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: thing and getting it the same results. 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: So I thought it was a good job by the 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: staff of you. 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: Know, changing some stuff up, and I think it helped. 36 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: Us this week. 37 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Ran. 38 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: We've both been around a bunch of different kinds of 39 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: coaches before, but this week, I think it was important 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: to be one of those coaches where if you're not 41 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: doing it right, we're not done with this drill, We're 42 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: not done with this exercise. Tons of focus on doing 43 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: things the correct way, even if it seems really simple 44 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: because of those silly mistakes they saw in the first game. 45 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Was nice. 46 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: It was not perfect by any means, but it was 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: nice to see a lot of that cleaned up in 48 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: terms of penalties, excuse me, in terms of penalties in 49 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: the second preseason matchup. 50 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 5: You know, Kai, one of the storylines for this training 51 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 5: camp and preseason was that the head coach, Liam Gohen, 52 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 5: was a first time head coach, so we were watching 53 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 5: him as much as we were looking at his offense 54 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 5: or the defense, just to see. 55 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: How he does things. 56 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: I've been very impressed listening to him and to see 57 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 5: the things that he does. You got me with this one, 58 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 5: but listen, he has impressed me. The story of the 59 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 5: game was assignment and alignment as far as I was concerned, 60 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 5: and Bucky and I during the telecast yesterday just tracked 61 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 5: it from start to finish. And yes there was a mistake. 62 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 5: They had the fumble, but there were no pre snap 63 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 5: mistakes which they had seen against the Steelers John and 64 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 5: they didn't have any other than the fumble. The dbos 65 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 5: don't beat ourselves, and I thought that the week of 66 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 5: practice paid off magnificently. 67 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 6: Yeah. 68 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: Look, I'm using a guy who likes the coach who 69 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: during practice play move on, don't go back and repeat, 70 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: because he can't go back and repeat during the game. 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: I think as time moves on with the veteran team, 72 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: that's how you approach it. But last week that was 73 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: not the way to approach it. And there was a 74 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: day that Trevor mentioned where they flat out said we 75 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: are not going to allow mistakes. 76 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 6: We're going to get this fixed. 77 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Preseason has changed so much that you don't really know 78 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: who's playing for the opponent anymore. I have no idea 79 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: what the system is in terms of starters. Saints didn't 80 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: play starters. I guess I don't care anymore. I just 81 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: care what the Jaguars do. And what the Jaguars did 82 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: was fix the glaring thing that had been hurting them. 83 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: It had been the theme of camp and if they 84 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: get that right, Liam clearly believes, don't make mistakes and 85 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you give yourself a chance. Yesterday they give himself a. 86 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: Chance, you know, and Ki just a point. 87 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: I think that if the Jaguars start to play well 88 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 5: this year and they don't make mistakes, don't beat themselves. 89 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 5: I think we'll look back at this week of practice, 90 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 5: and normally, don't you know, we don't remember practice during 91 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: training camp. We don't talk about it after we get 92 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: into the regular season. But we might be turning around 93 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: and looking at that week and the way that Liam 94 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: approached it. 95 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly at the time of year to be working 96 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: on that sort of thing. Second big thing today, it's 97 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: gonna be get physical because the other focus of practice 98 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: last week was physicality. They went up against a tough 99 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Steelers team, didn't see all that they wanted to see. 100 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: But coach Cohen felt good about this week of practice 101 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: and what he saw in New Orleans. 102 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 7: Had a very physical week of practice, and then they 103 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 7: came out and played physically, you know, and they also 104 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 7: played smarter in a lot of ways. So I definitely 105 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 7: believe that this team responded in the right way, from 106 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 7: being challenged post Steelers game to coming out having one 107 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 7: of our better practices at training camp this week, then 108 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 7: having a little bit of a uglier scrimmage, and then 109 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 7: you come. 110 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 6: Out and you start fast and the ones in twos. 111 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 7: I feel like, for the most part, really competed at 112 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 7: a higher level than maybe we had and there was 113 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 7: no question that they were. 114 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 6: Trying to play physical. 115 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: John when Liam Crohen came in, he said physicality was 116 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: what he wanted to be part of this team's identity. 117 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: That was another focus in practice this week. Did you 118 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: feel like it translated yesterday? 119 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 6: Yeah. 120 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: As I said, it's gotten so hard. It's always been 121 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: hard to analyze preseason. Now it's even harder because you 122 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: don't know what you're looking at in terms of was 123 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: this offensive line playing against their ones this So you 124 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: get to the point where you look for glimpses, and 125 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: you look for things that you think the coach is 126 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: looking for, and I thought there were on the first 127 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: two series, which is ones that mattered to me. There 128 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: were times, especially on the second one, where they dominated 129 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage where they showed what they want 130 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: to be. Now they're going to be able to do 131 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: that against a team starters. I don't know, but you 132 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: wanted to come out of this preseason with an idea 133 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: of how this team wanted to be third and three 134 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: on the touchdown drive, they ran Travis Etn for six yards. 135 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: That is a sign of what Liam Cohen wants this 136 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: offense to be. He wants it to be able to 137 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: run when it wants and needs to run. And there 138 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: are moments of that the other day or on Sunday, 139 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: and I thought, maybe that's my biggest takeaway from me game. 140 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 5: You know, you can't convince the other team that you 141 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 5: are a physical team until you convince your own team. 142 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 5: And so going into the second quarter and into the third, 143 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: they kept with the run. Both of Baseial Tuton's touchdowns 144 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 5: in this preseason were a result of physical effort inside 145 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 5: the twenty yard line, which I love to see lots 146 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 5: of coaches. Every coach says we want to be physical. 147 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 5: Of course, football is a physical game, but not every 148 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: coach will stick with it, like Liam Cohen is showing 149 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 5: us that he will do, and so he's instituting that 150 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 5: in the culture of his team. They expect to play 151 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 5: the run, they expect to be physical, and oh listen, 152 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 5: that's what Liam Cohen did in Tampa that brought him 153 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: here to be the head coach. He resurrected the running game, 154 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: it fixed the quarterback and the Buccaneers went into the 155 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 5: playoffs last year. That's what the Jaguars want and need 156 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 5: him to do here. 157 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought both of Tatan's touchdowns this preseason where 158 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: sort of tone setting. The one last week where they 159 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: sort of pushed him into the end zone. And yesterday 160 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: they get to the nine yard line with the past 161 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: tun or log and then three three yard runs by 162 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Twoton and they basically decided we're going to run the 163 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: ball into the end zone. So, again, it's preseason, but 164 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: that's what they want to be. 165 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: Our final big thing today is going to be about 166 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: the O line. 167 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: The O line shuffle. 168 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: We've seen a ton of movement along the offensive line, 169 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: so far, and then yesterday some late scratches Anton Harrison 170 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: and Chumatydoga didn't go. So we saw players playing in 171 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: multiple positions. To see that in the preseason, but they're 172 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: trying to get the handle of it. It can make 173 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: it more difficult. Patrick McCay one of those players who 174 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: played a couple positions yesterday, But he feels like they're 175 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: getting there. 176 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 6: I think understanding what's expected of us and like really diving. 177 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: In on that playbook and keeping us all accountable on that. 178 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: The more we do that, the more. 179 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 6: We grow, the more cold ten we. 180 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 5: Have behind what we're doing. 181 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Don't think we're wrong going to get better number we do, Brian. 182 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: We should also mention reports of a trade that Luke 183 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: Forwartner is going to be leaving. The former center didn't 184 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: play last season, was potentially fighting for that backup role, 185 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: but he's going to be heading to New Orleans. Colin 186 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: Saunders defensive tackle could be coming here, so addition to 187 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: the defensive line, subtraction from the offensive line, but they're 188 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: clearly addressing that issue. We can talk a little bit 189 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: more about the defensive tackle later, but the O line 190 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: still seems like they're in the mix of trying to 191 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: figure out exactly who the five are going to be. 192 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: You know, Kay, we talked in the spring about all 193 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 5: the pieces that they brought in to fortify the offensive line. 194 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: Whether it was mccaary that you're talking about Ridoga, whether 195 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 5: it was the draft pick of White Milam or Trevor 196 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: Monheim by the way, who is the young center from 197 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: usc that they like a lot. Who made Luke Forsner 198 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 5: a guy that they could trade if that's what they're doing. 199 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 5: So they brought the pieces in, and John I the 200 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 5: offensive line was a major question mark through two games. Boy, 201 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 5: it looks like they have answers to the questions. And 202 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 5: last week on the practice field, five different guys got 203 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: reps at left tackle. Yesterday McCary had to step out 204 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: and play right tackle. Fred Johnson went over and played 205 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: right tackle to start the game in place of Harrison. 206 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: They've got a lot of questions. 207 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: But it seems like they've got a lot of answers 208 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: and a lot of peace is to be able to 209 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: find new answers should new questions arise. 210 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're still and they're still looking at 211 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the left tackle position. But I thought yesterday was significant. 212 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: You had Adoga out, you had Anton Harrison out, cole 213 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: Van Lammon's still out. I think those are three of 214 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: their top nine when they start the season. So it 215 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: feels like they're living up to what they said this 216 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: preseason was going to be, which is not stopping looking 217 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: for answers until they find them. And there were very 218 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: few preconceived notions about this offensive line. 219 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 6: So so far, so good. 220 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: We'll see week one, all right, stay with the sera 221 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: on jag Zam. 222 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: Coming up, we'll look at some of the highlights from 223 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: yesterday's preseason game against the Saints. 224 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 7: This game was another step in the right direction where 225 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 7: you saw him clicking through progressions again and getting to 226 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 7: his you know, third and fourth reads a few times. 227 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 7: I thought we protected them really well up front, which 228 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 7: allows a quarterback. 229 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 6: To do those things. And also when you run. 230 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,239 Speaker 7: The ball effectively, it also takes some pressure off the quarterback. 231 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 7: So I was pleased with his outing tonight. Obviously, the 232 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 7: one fumbles a tough one. 233 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 6: Because you just got to eat that. 234 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 7: It's a great learning moment for him, especially in the 235 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 7: red area where you already have points. So when you 236 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 7: have two turnovers in the red zone when you already 237 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 7: have points. Those are tough ones when you end up 238 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 7: tying a game. 239 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: I took and Cohen kind of looking back on what 240 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: you saw from Tarbor Lawrence on the offense, we got 241 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: to see the starters, the starters that were available. There 242 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: were some last minute scratches. It seems john to me. 243 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: It seems kind of like if anybody is even sort 244 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: of a question mark working on anything, that kind of 245 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: just aired on the side of not playing. Obviously, we 246 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: saw Travis Hunter, Deanmi Brown, extra, some other additions to 247 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: the did not dress list. I mean we hadn't known 248 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 2: earlier in the week. 249 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again it goes back to how much different 250 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: and how standard this approach is. During pre season, I 251 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: said at the top to Saint thing playing very many starters. Well, 252 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: by the time you got down too, the Jaguars were 253 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: without about eleven or twelve guys, and I think eleven 254 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: of them I counted are gonna matter a lot this season. 255 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, you air on the side if a guy 256 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: is even remotely not you know, not ready banged up, 257 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: you don't play him, and I don't. I don't expect 258 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: to see very much on Saturday either. 259 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: I wouldn't think so obviously with the practice against the 260 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 5: Dolphins this week, which is where they. 261 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: Want to get to. 262 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 5: The reps on the practice field are controlled and more 263 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: meaningful to the coaching staffs of both teams this week 264 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 5: than the time on the field on Saturday night. 265 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 2: We did see the starters for two drives on offense, 266 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: So let's take a look at the tape. Trevor Lawrence 267 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: and the offense kind of going the length of the field. 268 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: Obviously we'll get to that. 269 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Funnel which we didn't love so much, but kind of 270 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: opening things up, getting first downs. 271 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Things you like to see there. 272 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Tank Spigsby had a catch and kind of a run 273 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: off to the side, which was nice to see him 274 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: kind of break a few tackles there, get out into 275 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: open space and put the jets on a little bit. 276 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: And again, it's nice to see all these running backs 277 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: making moves. 278 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 5: Well, he was doing that last year if you remember 279 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 5: the game against the Colts, the game against Detections. We 280 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 5: saw glimpses of that, and then we saw glimpses of 281 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 5: this in the game in Philadelphia. Whichever made that throw 282 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 5: was intercepted. He's got to live to fight another play, right, 283 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna praise him by the way in the hot takes, 284 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: but that's one of those things. 285 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: Learned to live to fight another play. 286 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got the feeling on that plane that you know, 287 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: he's not trying to defend it to make that play, but 288 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: it felt so good offensively, and they wanted to get 289 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: that touchdown that they wanted to keep that going, and 290 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: it didn't have much time on the field. 291 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 6: They knew they were going. 292 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: To play two series, so he almost got the idea 293 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: that I just really wanted this play to work, didn't 294 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: want to leave it on the field without but get I. 295 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 5: Gonna say, don't you agree that that's the step that's 296 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 5: the next step for him is. 297 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 4: Yep, to not think you got to be the hero and. 298 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: Everything, and especially on first and ten, got couple more 299 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: opportunities defense. In Week one of preseason, we saw kind 300 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: of that. I don't know if it's a communication issue. 301 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: The defense didn't look great out of the start, but 302 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: we saw much better communication this week, and of course 303 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: the defense felt like they were all on the same page, 304 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: which is to me one of the most important things 305 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: because of all the communication issues they had last season. 306 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: Do me I think at credit for a sack here, 307 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: although it looks like Shuck might have just fallen down 308 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. But also Treyvon Walker getting into the 309 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: backfield as well. It was nice to see this defense. 310 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: Whether or not they're going up against starters, it was 311 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: nice to see them actually getting some quality reps, right, 312 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: I mean, Chuck, Whether the New Orleans Saints are good 313 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 2: or office year, that's probably gonna be their starting quarterback 314 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: at some point, and so to get in the backfield 315 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: kind of pressure the quarterback, it's. 316 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: Always good to see. 317 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and listen, there were a couple of their starting 318 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 5: offensive linemen in there, and so for the Jaguars to 319 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 5: get some pressure up the middle was good. Right here, 320 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: you see there's Trayvon Walker doing what we expect Treyvon 321 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 5: Walker to do all season long. 322 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: And talking to Anthony Campaneely and. 323 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: Josh and our partner and Josh Hantz Allen about Trayvon 324 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 5: they expect to see a lot of that kind of 325 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 5: play from him this year. 326 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dooey gets the sack because he was there, and 327 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: I think he would have sacked in kind of like Booth. 328 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: But yeah, Trayvon, he shows up and he's going to 329 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of sacks, and if he doesn't have 330 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks, you get a lot of plays 331 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: like that, a lot of pressures where he matters on 332 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: the play. So absolutely, you don't say preseason things are musts, 333 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: but boy, it had to feel good for the defensive 334 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: players to have a couple of series where they got 335 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: him on off the field fast, where they felt like 336 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: they'd played like they wanted to play. 337 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: That felt important show some progress from the week before. 338 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's take a look at that second offensive possession, 339 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: because I think when we talk about Trevor making maybe 340 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: a silly mistake right with the fumble, trying to make 341 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: something out of nothing there, it's important to bounce back 342 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: because so much of last season I felt like when 343 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: something went wrong, you were just waiting for the other 344 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: shoe to drop and you let it turn into a 345 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: snowball effect. And it was important, at least for me 346 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: to see Trevor kind of let that go and immediately 347 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: kind of go into this next drive, which was nice. 348 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: And also seeing contributions all around. We talked about tang 349 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: Bigsby on that first drive, etn here up the middle, 350 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: and seeing all the running backs contribute, and then obviously 351 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: Parker Washington gets the touchdown later on in this drive, 352 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: and Parker's looking great in camp and translating into the game. 353 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: And because the Ammi Brown and Travis Hunter relate scratches 354 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: in this one, Parker probably got a little more run 355 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: time than he would have normally. 356 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was talking about Parker in a bit. 357 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: But the running backs, this is what they want. This 358 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: is what they want the offense to be. I mean, 359 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: they want to be able to use Etn and Bigsby. 360 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: They think they can both be productive. McQuinn Allen had 361 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: a nice run. I think it was in a second 362 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: they've been the second quarter. They want to be an 363 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: offense that utilizes these backs in different ways. 364 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 6: And I thought the run, the two runs. 365 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: By Etn at fifteen yard that you're seeing, then the 366 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: six yard or later on that drive, I think if 367 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: you pulled lam Con aside and said how are the 368 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: most important plays in the game, those two would rank 369 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: up there. Because he wants to be able to run 370 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: and have drives where the run is the engine than 371 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: the past. And I thought on that drive the run 372 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: was the engine. 373 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 5: If you were to ask me who is has been 374 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: the best player on the field during training camp consistently. 375 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: I would tell you Travis ETM. 376 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: And I wouldn't have told you at the end of 377 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: last year, I didn't want to see him run between 378 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 5: the tackles again. But he came into OTAs and to 379 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 5: the mini camp motivated. He's on a one year deal 380 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: and I think he has been sensational and that run now, 381 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 5: it helps when your offensive line is moving people and 382 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: he's able to use his speed and explosiveness, but his 383 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: willingness to put his nose in there and punch it in. 384 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: I think he's had a sensational camp. It was two 385 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: years ago that he was a fourteen hundred yard guy 386 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: and eleven touchdowns on the ground. I think he can 387 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 5: be a major threat when you consider all the other 388 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 5: weapons that Liam Cohen and Grant Yudinsky have. I think 389 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 5: Travis ETN has a chance to have a huge years. 390 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: Round this out and talk about another running back because 391 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: facial touton has impressed me. I'll talk a little bit 392 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: specifical about him in the hot takes, but on this 393 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: one when it's first and goal and you just give 394 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: it to him three times in a row because you 395 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: know he's gonna get in there at some point. I 396 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: think it was three hours, three hours and three yards. 397 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: But just that's what you want. You want him to 398 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: go up the middle, keep his legs moving, get whatever 399 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: it might be. And we've talked so long John about 400 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: being good running team when they know you're gonna run 401 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: it right, Like, that's important thing. Whether or not it's preseason. 402 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: Not trying to make too much of it, but having 403 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: a back where you feel like you can rush with him, 404 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: that's that's what this team needs. 405 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we didn't see a lot of that kind 406 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: of series, that kind of finish where the back is 407 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: just sort of rolling into the end zone. 408 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 6: We saw in. 409 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: The last couple of years a lot of that back 410 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: like getting stuff. 411 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 6: Laying on his back on the on the two yard lineup. Look. 412 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: I know fans watching this, it's preseasons, preseasons, preseason, I 413 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: get it. But that's how they want it to look. 414 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: That's what you want to see during the preseason. It 415 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: was a great sign. And to see it four or 416 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: five different times out of the preseason already. We'll see, 417 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: we'll see if it translates to the regular season. But 418 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: the money is where the mouth is in terms of 419 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: they set it all off season. 420 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 6: And they're showing what they want to be. So I'm 421 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 6: optimistic and we'll see. 422 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 5: We talk about this kid draft weekend was his speed 423 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: and explosiveness, and certainly that's there. 424 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: But what I've been impressed with him is his patients. 425 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 5: I mean, you can see him letting blocks set up, 426 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 5: and not a lot of rookie running backs have that 427 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 5: kind of patience. And when you watch him run, it's 428 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: clear he is looking for where the hole is and 429 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: not just punching it up in there. I think he's 430 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 5: got the mental acuity for this game beyond just the physical. 431 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a major factor this 432 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: year too. 433 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: Good stuff. I'm working. 434 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: Let's do the final play of the game. Obviously, play 435 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: the game to win. It's preseason. We don't really we 436 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: got to tie and they don't play over time in preseason. 437 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: I think we all wanted another long cam little kick, 438 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: but kind of going across the middle. There was it 439 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: nine seconds or left and then the interception. Make it 440 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: something mad and nothing. It's pre season, doesn't matter. 441 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: Brian, no listen. 442 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 5: I talked to a coach who would have been involved 443 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 5: in the conversations around the decision. After the game, and 444 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: his point was, sixty yard field goals are not givens. 445 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 5: So they practiced the situational mastery that they were looking for. 446 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 5: They got a terrible throw right, a bad play, the 447 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 5: ball gets intercepted. 448 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: Two things. 449 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: You couldn't have a saccerin interception, and they got the 450 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 5: interception there. So the execution was horrible. But what they 451 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 5: were looking for is because you're not always going to 452 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 5: be indoors, right, let's see what it would take to 453 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 5: get a couple more yards and increase the odds of success. 454 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 4: And it didn't work. 455 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you made a good point here to stay Brian 456 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: and everybody thanks. Because Cam had a seventy yard he 457 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: is gonna hit all the sixties. Pa, got to your 458 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: local high school field, stand on the fifty and look at. 459 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: The goalposts twenty four feet, see. 460 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: If it's close. 461 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 462 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 6: So I didn't have a problem with it. 463 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: Liked Liams approach afterward where he said, hey, crazy stuff 464 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: happens the preseason, and I do think they would make 465 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: the same decision during the regular season. By the way, 466 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: with the starters in your chance is getting intercepted, they 467 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: are low, and I do think the five or six 468 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: yards matter in that situation no problem. 469 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: In the history of the NFL, Tom Dempsey kicked the 470 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 5: first sixty yard field goal for the Saints at tu 471 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 5: Lane Stadium in nineteen seventy, but since then they've only 472 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 5: been thirty eight field goals thirty eight in fifty five 473 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 5: years of longer than sixty yards. It's just the coach 474 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 5: looked me in the eye as he goes, Come on, Brian, 475 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 5: he's not superman. 476 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 4: It is not an easy thing to do. 477 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 5: The goalposts are only twenty four feet wide and you're 478 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 5: sixty yards away. We're going to with a timeout try 479 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 5: to get a couple more yards or maybe position the 480 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: ball a little bit more in the center of the 481 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: field for the kicker. That's just good strategy. So it 482 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 5: was situational and we'll see how they play it. But 483 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 5: did not we hear from the coach that they were 484 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 5: looking for situations in these preseason games and. 485 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 4: That what that was. 486 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: And they got themselves won for sure. 487 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 2: All right, say was we got hot coming up for 488 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: you after the break here on jagsam Dam brought to 489 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: you by Firehouse Subs Today specifically, are hot takes brought 490 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: to you by fire House Subs. 491 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I played with Parker now for a 492 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: few years and he's, you know, just the way the 493 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 3: room is kind of shaken out the last couple of years. 494 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: He's always been in that position, but he just keeps 495 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: making plays. So I don't you know, I don't want 496 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 3: to put numbers on any on anybody or what they 497 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: are or aren't, but he keeps making plays and keeps 498 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: showing up, and it's gonna it's gonna be tough to 499 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 3: keep that guy off the field of the way he's playing, 500 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: and I've just been impressed by the way it works. 501 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: You know, this guy is always in great shape, can 502 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: play all the different positions. I think that's really what 503 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 3: you're seeing has helped him so much as he can 504 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: move around. 505 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: It can Parker Washington praise from Trevor Lawrence and we 506 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: all have a hot take after preseason game number two. John' 507 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 2: wan to let you go first, because I think you'd 508 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: agree with Trevor Stick and Parker Washington. 509 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, I've always liked Parker as a person. 510 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: Talking to him, I did not think that he would 511 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: force his way into the receiving rotation this year with 512 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: Dimmy Brown, Travis Hunter and uh Brian Thomas Junior, but 513 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna find a way to play him. Yeah, 514 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: and I think Liam I think mentioned if, but Trevor 515 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: certainly did. 516 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 6: You look at. 517 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: Him and think that he's a slot guy, but he can. 518 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 6: Play all three different positions. 519 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: So he's gonna be absolutely valuable because he knows how 520 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: to play them all. If one of these guys gets hurt, 521 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: or if Travis Hunter is in a phase where he's 522 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: not playing much, that they have an option. But I 523 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: don't know how they're gonna do it. I haven't talked 524 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: enough people to know sort of what's gonna look like. 525 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: But my understanding is that they're sort of dealing with 526 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: and saying, we got to find a way to get 527 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: this guy in the field. He makes too many plays. 528 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: It was last time we had that problem around here. 529 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: I think you said in the last segment that Travis 530 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: c Tm was this player in camp. 531 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 4: You think he Parker might be. I mean, he's close, right, 532 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 4: And who thought that was gonna. 533 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: Be the when training camp began draft and develop, which 534 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: they haven't done enough of around here. But it looks 535 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: like there's a couple of young players in Parker. Washington's 536 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 5: one of them. 537 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 2: I've just been impressed with what he's been able to 538 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: do the last couple of seasons as well. I think 539 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: you got to give him credit for being thrust into 540 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: positions where you know, maybe he wasn't ready or he 541 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: didn't know where he's going to be. When you talk 542 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 2: about I think Brent Strange did some of that too 543 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 2: last year. When you're dealing with the injuries, it's you 544 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 2: take the playing time wherever you get it, and Parker 545 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 2: Washington has taken that and run with it, certainly so 546 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: far with what was seen so far and training. 547 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 4: He has a great attitude too. 548 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 5: If you ever listened to him or talked to him, 549 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 5: he is a guy who understood that the odds were 550 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 5: against him and he never let that become an issue 551 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 5: and became a great special teams performer. 552 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: I'd just love to talk to him too. 553 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 2: All right, Brian, what's your hot take for us? 554 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: I don't know that I've seen Trevor play that effectively. 555 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 5: He was as good during those two drive not We 556 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 5: already mentioned the fumble, and that was a bad decision, 557 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 5: but there were two throws three in particular John that 558 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 5: had me excited about him. The third and eight to 559 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 5: Brenton Strange where he climbed the pocket and you thought, well, 560 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 5: he's gonna put it down and run. 561 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: And he didn't. 562 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 5: You know, he buzzed his feet and then just threaded 563 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 5: the ball to Brenton's Strange. I thought that was an 564 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 5: example of him understanding the offense. 565 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: It was a beautiful throw. 566 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 5: Later third and two, another ten yard throw on the run, 567 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 5: moving the ball right through traffic into Brenton Strange. And 568 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: then I hate that turn his back and roll out. 569 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 5: He got hurt against the Colts last year with that one. 570 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 5: I just I don't like that play. But it was 571 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 5: tighter yesterday. And then he stopped and waited for Brian 572 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 5: Thomas for half a step. I just was really impressed 573 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 5: with his poise, his patients in the pocket, the way 574 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: that he went through the reads. Call it discipline. I 575 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: just I left the broadcast booth yesterday thinking he's ready 576 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 5: to take a big step forward. 577 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 4: How long it takes him, yeah, to actually make it. 578 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 4: He's ready. 579 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm encouraged. 580 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: It seems like I keep using the phrase I'm not 581 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: sure it's right that he's getting his feet under him. 582 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 6: In this offense. And I don't think he's trying to 583 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 6: be spectacular. 584 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: I think he is still going through the learning phase 585 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: of this offense, making sure that he knows the footwork proper, 586 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: making sure that he knows what they're asking of him, 587 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: and it seems like he's sort of taking the approach 588 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to six or seven, meaning I'm 589 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: going to learn how to run it. I'm going to 590 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: drive the speed limit, if you will, and then at 591 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: some point he's going to take the restrictor plate off 592 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: because he can and go. So I like the fact 593 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: that so far he seems very in control, very poised 594 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: in it, because you know, if he gets that that 595 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: the spectacular is in him. So I'm encouraged as well. 596 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: Fingers crossed. I'd like to see the progression, and I 597 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: hope this continues into the regular season. I'm going positive 598 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: for my hot take as well. It's almost toot in time, 599 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: I think too. At the beginning of training camp, I 600 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: felt like it's a crowded running back room, and I 601 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: felt like everyone had their strengths. But slowly I'm getting 602 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: to the point where I feel like Tuton can do 603 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: almost all of those things as well, if not better 604 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: than some of his competitors. So for me, my hot 605 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: take is going to be I think Touton will be 606 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: getting the bulk of the carries before the bye week 607 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: because for me, talked about a speed right out of college. 608 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: We already knew that, right Brian, you talked about his 609 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: patients out there, his vision, his tenacity, keeping his legs 610 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 2: moving and then working with what's being given to him, 611 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: right because you want to wait for the whole to 612 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: lot to open up. He can make a burst, not 613 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: trying to run around the tackles. You got to wait 614 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 2: for things to play out. He's showing he can do that. 615 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: And his dependability thus far has been impressive to me 616 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: because you know what you're getting every time. 617 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: He gets the ball. 618 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: So I think sooner than later he might be the 619 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: lead back. 620 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: You're on the Tuton train, I'm on the Touton train. 621 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: Here are the two too. 622 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 6: I think there's a possibility of that. 623 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: I also think that they're in an unreal situation because 624 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: I think Travis me atm may have something to say 625 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: about it, which is. 626 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: What you want. 627 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 6: So but that's not out of the wrong possibility. 628 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: We'll have to see how things play out. 629 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: Stay with us. We'll tell you what's coming up the 630 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: rest of. 631 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: The week, including joint practic in Miami later Jack Fan, 632 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: if you want to customize Jaguars furniture for your home, 633 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: check out zip chaer dot com without all the customizable options. 634 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: Zip Chair is furniture for fans. 635 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was amazing, Uh, I had first off 636 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: we'd be able to make his last treatment day. 637 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 4: Was was awesome to be there. 638 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 6: Nurses were school kind. 639 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: And so helpful throughout the whole journey. Uh, they made 640 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 4: they made his you know, his journey a lot of easier, 641 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 4: and they made it especially for that day. Man, I'm 642 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: so happy. He glad that, uh he's done. 643 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: With treatment and you know, we could continue to progress 644 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: as I was a seven year old boy. I wanna 645 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: take a moment to celebrate Josh heinz Allen and his 646 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: family's special moment. His seven year old son Wesley, diagnosed 647 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: with leukemia back in January, has done six months of treatment, 648 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: but his final chemotherapy appointment was last week and got 649 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: to ring the bell and such a wonderful family, So 650 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: Josh and his wife Caitlin and Wesley. Of course, so 651 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: you guys may know because he walked out with him 652 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: when he was drafted. That was Wessie's seen years old 653 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: now and I'm very fortunate if he done with treatment. 654 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 5: It's really different because Josh lives in Jacksonville. I mean, 655 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 5: his family is here. He's a part of the community. 656 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: He's always out and about doing things. 657 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 5: And so they're not strangers, and I know there's a 658 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 5: lot of people that are praying for him. 659 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 660 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Good sincere guy, and uh, I'm glad that's going well. 661 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: Behind them, Absolutely, talk football real quick. We're headed to Miami. 662 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,719 Speaker 2: We're gonna have practice here tomorrow and Wednesday, but then 663 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: the team goes down there joint practice with the Dolphins. 664 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: There's always something. 665 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: To get out of joint practice, and it's nice to 666 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: go up against a team that's not your own. 667 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 4: Can't wait to see it. 668 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a team that in two of the 669 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 5: last three years has been a playoff team, you know, 670 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 5: ten win teams. So they obviously have a lot of 671 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 5: talent and a lot of speed, and the jagguars will 672 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 5: be better for having practice against him. 673 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I get the idea. 674 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: This will be the one joint practice. 675 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: I get the idea. 676 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 6: I get the idea listening to Liam Cohen. This will 677 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 6: be the last time that we have that few for 678 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 6: a while. 679 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: He likes this for me. 680 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: Will also be live jag Exam on Thursday from practice 681 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: Johnny and your son hat. 682 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we'll bring my sun. 683 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Okay, we love that. 684 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm fared up, absolutely alright. We will be back and 685 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: stay here on jagsam on Wednesday. Maybe you see that