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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, season eighteen, episode number one fourteen. Welcome
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Speaker 1: fan at World five, because it's not like he couldn't
Speaker 1: make it, because Brian thrives on moments like that, like
Speaker 1: it's like icy and all that. He was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm coming, I'm gonna be here. I'll be the
Speaker 1: first one there. Yeah, the only one there. It's not
Speaker 1: like he couldn't make it because of weather. He hadn't
Speaker 1: you know, He's in radio all day long. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: interesting because I noticed on one on five Dot three
Speaker 1: the fan. You know they do the camera where you
Speaker 1: can see all the hosts talking and Brian's show I
Speaker 1: saw this week Brian was the only one in the
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Speaker 1: that's Brian. Brian is not He's like, yes, the worst
Speaker 1: the conditions, Brian's like, I'm gonna figure out a way
Speaker 1: to be there because yeah, exactly, So that's just that's
Speaker 1: what he does. But yeah, I think he lost a
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Speaker 1: he has to do every show all day to day.
Speaker 1: So I think he got on this morning and he'll
Speaker 1: be on until like nine o'clock tonight. So good luck Brian.
Speaker 1: Have fun with that. That's a lot of talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if anybody can do it, Brian can do it. Though,
Speaker 1: So all right, let's let's jump in. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of news that's happened throughout this week, so it's
Speaker 1: a good time for us to do a show on
Speaker 1: a Friday because there's so much we can talk about.
Speaker 1: But I want to start, obviously with what I think
Speaker 1: is the biggest piece of news, which was Cowboys mutually
Speaker 1: agree with Kellen Moore to move on. And in the
Speaker 1: meantime after that, Kellen Moore is already a new offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator with the Los Angeles Chargers. Stephen talked about it
Speaker 1: this week at the Senior Bowl, and you mentioned it.
Speaker 1: There's still a part of it, it doesn't he He
Speaker 1: was talking about that with regards to Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: how that all works from the head coach to the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. He says, there's still part of that. It
Speaker 1: doesn't totally job with what McCarthy wants out of the offense.
Speaker 1: What did you guys take from that? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Stephen was just trying to point out that,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, everybody still respects Kellen and all that,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's just differences of opinion, and I it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that when you hear it, it's not that
Speaker 1: big a deal. When you put it out on you know,
Speaker 1: in a quote, it looks like it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: no different than you and I worked together and we
Speaker 1: have a difference of opinion on certain things. I mean,
Speaker 1: not to the point yet that you're letting me go.
Speaker 1: But but you know, but I'm not saying that they
Speaker 1: let him go. No, I'm just saying, but people have
Speaker 1: different No. No, I'm saying people have different opinions on stuff.
Speaker 1: And so it was kind of like, yeah, like he
Speaker 1: respects Kellen, but you know what didn't get said, And
Speaker 1: this is what the way I'll take it is. I
Speaker 1: think everyone thinks or knows that Mikey McCarthy's got to
Speaker 1: keep winning here. You can't go backwards at all. He's
Speaker 1: got to keep winning, make it break season, if that's
Speaker 1: what you want to call it. Probably he's got to
Speaker 1: go to the NFC Championship game. So he probably feels
Speaker 1: that pressure and he's like, listen, this is the way
Speaker 1: it is. Like I've done it for three years with Kellen,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a different way to do it,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to do it this way. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think Kevin probably saw it too. Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: initially said big surprise, I thought you were gonna say
Speaker 1: dan Quinn because that was a huge surprise. But as
Speaker 1: far as Kellen Morton, you know, I think he he
Speaker 1: has a lot of talent, and I think he did
Speaker 1: a really really good job while he was with the boys.
Speaker 1: To see his transition from being a backup quarterback to
Speaker 1: then transition to becoming the backup the quarterbacks coach and
Speaker 1: then quickly becoming the OC, that's pretty impressive. And to
Speaker 1: see the amount of stats that he was able to
Speaker 1: put up despite everything, despite Dak being out, despite all
Speaker 1: the different challenges you're not having the right amount of talent,
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, he was able to do a lot
Speaker 1: of things for you. But I do agree was probably time,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it last week. Definitely time for
Speaker 1: a different voice. It wasn't just working. It just wasn't
Speaker 1: working out. And I think he's gonna do good things
Speaker 1: over there with the Chargers, so I'm rooting for him,
Speaker 1: not when we face them, but just in general. I
Speaker 1: think it's time. I'm curious to see how it's gonna
Speaker 1: work out, though, with Mike McCarthy calling the place now,
Speaker 1: because now you ain't got nobody else to put the
Speaker 1: blame on, that's all you. And we were talking about
Speaker 1: it before the show, Derek a little bit this morning.
Speaker 1: To me, it's just like, why didn't you take over
Speaker 1: a little sooner? You know when you see it because
Speaker 1: we go through every year and you know how much
Speaker 1: the team changes. We were almost in the verage of
Speaker 1: losing dan Quinn and him going somewhere else. You have
Speaker 1: to you're gonna lose players. It's just the roster continued
Speaker 1: like always changes and to me, last year, I mean
Speaker 1: we were pretty close. Despite of how the season went,
Speaker 1: it got pretty close. So in my eyes I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 1: if you have trust, even though aside of you have
Speaker 1: different opinions and philosophy and all that, but you're the
Speaker 1: head coach. Like I would have liked him to maybe
Speaker 1: take over a lot sooner if he felt very strongly
Speaker 1: about some of the decisions are not the decisions that
Speaker 1: were made well, I think, first of all, let's put
Speaker 1: this in context. I don't think it's just talk when
Speaker 1: they say this was a mutually agreed to decision. I
Speaker 1: don't think this is a situation where it's just cowboys
Speaker 1: are like, hey, Kellen, we really don't want you here
Speaker 1: next year, so mutually we agree. Like, I think this
Speaker 1: was a mutual decision, maybe as much Kellen as it
Speaker 1: was the Cowboys. I don't know which way it fall.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was sixty forty one way or the other.
Speaker 1: But the point is I think it was a mutual decision.
Speaker 1: But I personally, and you're talking to you, and I
Speaker 1: talked about this before the show. I don't think last
Speaker 1: year would have been the right year for Mike to
Speaker 1: make that kind of move. You were coming off a
Speaker 1: twelve and five season, you were coming off a year
Speaker 1: we had the top offense in the league. I think
Speaker 1: if he makes that move, then I think the question
Speaker 1: I would have had questions because my thought would have
Speaker 1: been the Cowboys invested in Kellen Moore as a young
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator with very little experience, really no experience doing
Speaker 1: the job at just the moment when this offense seems
Speaker 1: like it's starting to take off. That doesn't mean it
Speaker 1: doesn't have its growing pains and it's still not quite perfect.
Speaker 1: It's starting the show signs as being the top offense
Speaker 1: in the league that he has, he's on the right track.
Speaker 1: That would have been a little weird for me to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: now that we've finally seen some return from this investment,
Speaker 1: let's just rip it up. That wouldn't have been the
Speaker 1: right time saying like mid season. I mean, it's not,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's the thing I don't like. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like do that mid season for sure,
Speaker 1: unless unless the wheels have fallen off, which at no
Speaker 1: point this year did I feel like the offenses wheels
Speaker 1: fell off. Unless the wheels have completely fallen off, I
Speaker 1: just don't know that that's moved to make. I think
Speaker 1: he had one game where he would say that it
Speaker 1: was kind of wobbly because see Cooper. When when Dad
Speaker 1: got hurt, then Cooper comes in and so it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what's going on with the offense. I think everyone just thought, well,
Speaker 1: it's because Dad's not in it. And then the one
Speaker 1: game in Detroit they didn't really play well for a while.
Speaker 1: That comes back and it's like, okay, what's going on?
Speaker 1: And then it was the Bears game and then it
Speaker 1: just went crazy. So like it was almost like if
Speaker 1: they didn't play well against the Bears, I could see
Speaker 1: or something. You know, now, now we got a problem
Speaker 1: because Dad's been back two weeks and it's not getting fixed.
Speaker 1: But it got fixed. They went to the buy. They
Speaker 1: had a pretty good offensive showing in Green Bay, then Minnesota,
Speaker 1: so it's coming. It was almost like when the injury
Speaker 1: kind of almost put its pause on everything, like okay,
Speaker 1: we can't evaluate anything because there's an injury. And then
Speaker 1: Dad came back and had pretty good So I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was the right time to do it,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think it's a this is
Speaker 1: that big a deal. I just think it's like McCarthy's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll call the plays, but we don't
Speaker 1: know who the offensive coordinator is yet. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of names. They've interviewed two guys, there's some, there's you know,
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer's also a guy that could be in the
Speaker 1: mix here either way. I mean, if he's calling plays,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter bring it to that's not really
Speaker 1: it's just the structure of the offense. But I get
Speaker 1: the sense, and I don't know if this is always
Speaker 1: the case, but it's like everything is gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot more connected, like everything, you know, like hit bones
Speaker 1: connected to the kneebone type stuff, where it's like running backs, coach,
Speaker 1: offensive line, receivers tighten. I mean, it's all going to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a cohesive group. That's
Speaker 1: at least the plan. We'll get to that in a second,
Speaker 1: because I want to talk about some of the players,
Speaker 1: some of the coaches that they that they didn't renew
Speaker 1: and maybe what that means. We haven't had a show
Speaker 1: in a while. Honestly, there's so many different things that
Speaker 1: have happened this week. Before we move on, though, I
Speaker 1: do want to ask you guys, are he at all
Speaker 1: concerned about Mike McCarthy calling plays and still being able
Speaker 1: to manage the responsibilities of a head coach, because we've
Speaker 1: seen over the years there have been a number of
Speaker 1: head coaches, really good head coaches who have a particular
Speaker 1: discipline offense or defense that as time goes on, they're
Speaker 1: originally I mean, they're eventually removed from the responsibility of
Speaker 1: the offense or the defense so that they can really
Speaker 1: be focused on managing the game. There have been questions
Speaker 1: about Mike's decisions in games, fair or not throughout the
Speaker 1: last several seasons. So that being said, are you at
Speaker 1: all concerned about him now being calling the plays in
Speaker 1: addition to trying to manage the game? You know, not really,
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna look at it from more of a
Speaker 1: positive spin. Maybe it's maybe it's actually easier to call
Speaker 1: a game when you're managing to manage the game when
Speaker 1: you're calling it, because it's one thing to say, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of know what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: when you get in field goal range. We're gonna try
Speaker 1: to kick this field goal, So let's call play here.
Speaker 1: But but and and you know, and Kellen's thinking, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a first down. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do this and then, and you can't communicate everything in
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, so you know, maybe it's almost easier what
Speaker 1: you're doing here. I know, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to get the ball. I want to kick a field
Speaker 1: goal here. I want to run the ball to the
Speaker 1: left side to get right in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: You know, of course, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's a good spot for a field goal. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. That's kind of a bad example.
Speaker 1: But it comes to they can't make any kicks right now.
Speaker 1: But but you know, I just maybe you can eat
Speaker 1: call a game even better when you're managing it too.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I wouldn't know that. Yeah, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't know how. You've never been
Speaker 1: on a sideline calling a game before. No, Now, in
Speaker 1: the game that I did, I wasn't managing the game,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so five year olds are a little
Speaker 1: easier though, right. That was it was kind of a
Speaker 1: flag football game back in college. It was the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that wasn't that game. That wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: coming that flag football. No, when rama was playing. Now,
Speaker 1: I wasn't managing anything there. I was just blocking. So
Speaker 1: it was like it was like you were blocking like
Speaker 1: Zeke on the final play, or I just wondered why. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny, is yeah, yeah, everyone's like Jon Curse is
Speaker 1: tweeting out like I got Tom Brady's last interception. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, is Zeke had the ball? Zeke
Speaker 1: snapped the ball at center the last you know, that's
Speaker 1: a trivia question. What was the last position Zeke played
Speaker 1: for the gab Boys center? And he doesn't remember it
Speaker 1: because he got hit really hard? Are you teaming up
Speaker 1: the next segment as to what you think is going
Speaker 1: to happen with Zeke? Oh, if that happens, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's coming back. I say that we'll get
Speaker 1: to that well. I mean, I'm sure we have to
Speaker 1: go to break pretty soon. But my answer is quick.
Speaker 1: I do agree with Nike as far as like, I
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be a very difficult transcision, and I
Speaker 1: think he'll be fine because he's still gonna They're still
Speaker 1: gonna hire an LC to come in here and take
Speaker 1: over some of the responsibilities, and so he's still gonna
Speaker 1: have the help he needs around him. But I do
Speaker 1: agree it's a lot easier when you don't have to
Speaker 1: communicate with somebody else that quickly and you can just
Speaker 1: make your own decision and you're the guy to call. Now,
Speaker 1: what I like the most quote unquote is we would
Speaker 1: know specifically who to point. I don't like finger pointing. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm saying this, I'm not a fan of fingerpointing. But
Speaker 1: even last year we were wondering, okay, how much input,
Speaker 1: what's the percentage between the amount of voice and decision
Speaker 1: that is taken during the game between Kellen and Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: We didn't know really the answer to that. And now
Speaker 1: we will know for sure who's making these calls, and
Speaker 1: you're going to specifically extend in front of Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: after a game and ask him specifically those questions and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to hopefully give you some feedback
Speaker 1: right then and there rather than I mean, they still
Speaker 1: got a look at tape after the game, but it's
Speaker 1: just it gives you a clear answer on who's doing what.
Speaker 1: And we'll see he's done it in Green Bay. He
Speaker 1: has the experience. We'll see if if the offense truly
Speaker 1: changes because on the defensive side of the ball, you
Speaker 1: got another head coach there on that side. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think all the way around this worked
Speaker 1: out for everyone. This is one of the situations that
Speaker 1: worked for everybody, because I do think the Cowboys quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't think Kellen did a bad job, but I
Speaker 1: think sometimes I remember Bill Parcel's talking about how I
Speaker 1: don't care who you are as a coach. At some
Speaker 1: point whatever your thing is gonna run thin, and it's
Speaker 1: going to be time for a new voice. And I
Speaker 1: just think this is a good time for a new voice.
Speaker 1: I also think Kellen landed in a perfect spot talk
Speaker 1: about when to throw the ball. He's got a quarterback
Speaker 1: that could sling it, and I expect their offense to
Speaker 1: be that kind of offense next year. They don't have
Speaker 1: a traditional running game, they have a running back who
Speaker 1: is a great guy out in space that you can
Speaker 1: throw the ball too, So you think about it from
Speaker 1: that standpoint, I think it's gonna be a great fit
Speaker 1: for Kellen. So I think all the way around, everybody
Speaker 1: comes out better and let's see how it all turns out.
Speaker 1: I don't think because Kellen has success there it necessarily
Speaker 1: means he would have had success here in order, you know,
Speaker 1: or vice versa. I think at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think this was just the right timing for this
Speaker 1: move to just do something a little different than see
Speaker 1: if you can get a little more out of the offense.
Speaker 1: Are we're gonna say our first break, we will come back.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about Dan Quinn and some of
Speaker 1: the other coaches who will not be back here next year,
Speaker 1: some of them kind of surprising. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 1: blockchain dot com. Let's talk about Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. He is returning. There was there was
Speaker 1: lots of speculation that he would be leaving as a
Speaker 1: head coach. He'd interviewed for a number of different head
Speaker 1: coaching vacancies around the NFL. Then the news came out
Speaker 1: that he informed those teams that he did not plan
Speaker 1: to leave the Cowboys, planned to be here, wanted to
Speaker 1: finish the work that he'd been doing here. How surprised
Speaker 1: were you guys that he didn't end up taking a
Speaker 1: head coaching job and decided to come back here and
Speaker 1: remains the defensive coordinator. I didn't think it was gonna
Speaker 1: happen again. I thought, you know, they got lucky last time.
Speaker 1: Probably wasn't gonna happen this time. And you gotta remember,
Speaker 1: dan Quinn came out and said that this offseason he
Speaker 1: prepared for this. He prepared for his interviews, He prepared
Speaker 1: for you know, what he would say in the event
Speaker 1: that he was playing in a playoff game but also
Speaker 1: interviewing at the same time. So it's not like he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a head coach. He does want
Speaker 1: to be a head coach. He was preparing for it.
Speaker 1: He's waiting for the right situation to come along. But
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, this is still a good
Speaker 1: spot for him. Um with with the Cowboys. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're coaching you know my I mean Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons and you've got you've got a great you know,
Speaker 1: you've just got a great set up here. I think
Speaker 1: he's making um pretty good money, you know, maybe even
Speaker 1: head coach money. So he's doing fine there and he's
Speaker 1: waiting on it on the right spot. Yeah, I could
Speaker 1: not believe the news when I saw it. I'm like
Speaker 1: Jerry freaking Jones. He I mean, obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: it came down to Dan Quinn's decision, obviously um, but
Speaker 1: at the same time he has to be happy and
Speaker 1: with the right people and Jerry Jones to make it happen.
Speaker 1: Last year, and like Nick said, salary we gotta remember,
Speaker 1: is that still applying the whole were his contract or
Speaker 1: money that he was making previously from Atlanta. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, And if so, it's usually an
Speaker 1: offset thing, so it's what what it was made. You
Speaker 1: kind of pay the difference because I remember he was
Speaker 1: still making money out of from that and while he
Speaker 1: was still working here, So it's just like the salary.
Speaker 1: Once you add everything up, it was still pretty good.
Speaker 1: But my thought process when I saw that is that maybe,
Speaker 1: just maybe because once again Jerry Jones has come out
Speaker 1: and he has full support of Mike McCarthy and he
Speaker 1: still has I believe, two years left in his contract,
Speaker 1: but maybe that's a scenario. This is a scenario where
Speaker 1: dan Quinn possibly realizes what could happen in the near
Speaker 1: future and this could be a place where he could
Speaker 1: become potentially a head coach later on, and he sees
Speaker 1: the opportunity. He also see the amount of support. I
Speaker 1: mean you look at Twitter and things like that, just
Speaker 1: the amount of support that his own players give him.
Speaker 1: He's a players is that what you call him? Players coach?
Speaker 1: He's very, very tight. He's a great guy, not just
Speaker 1: a football knowledge and what he's done as a DC,
Speaker 1: but as a person, so humble and everything. You just
Speaker 1: love the guy. So everyone is happy. Everybody's happy to
Speaker 1: have him here. I'm freaking excited, especially because I'm not
Speaker 1: sure kind of how they're gonna handle free agency, and
Speaker 1: you look at what dun quinn has been able to
Speaker 1: do during free agency with guys that are not like
Speaker 1: top player, a lot of money, big splashes, and he's
Speaker 1: still being able to take veteran guys and make a
Speaker 1: name out of them again kind of refreshed their career here.
Speaker 1: So I'm really really excited to have him back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think this was a great move for Dallas obviously,
Speaker 1: and maybe it was a situation too where it all
Speaker 1: kind of worked out where you know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: getting inside Dan's head, but you have to think about
Speaker 1: all the things that are factors here. He might have
Speaker 1: looked at all the positions that were available as head
Speaker 1: coaches and none of them was a great situation as
Speaker 1: far as maybe the things that he looks at that
Speaker 1: he'd want to have in place to take a new job,
Speaker 1: and he might be thinking next year might have a
Speaker 1: better opportunity. Um. And so either way, however it goes,
Speaker 1: whatever was involved in that decision, it worked out for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They get their defensive coordinator back, and hopefully
Speaker 1: their defense continues to improve because it is, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: one of the better defenses in the league. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got, like like Amber said, I mean, the guys
Speaker 1: like jay Ron Curse, Donovan Wilson, players that he kind
Speaker 1: of had a good vision for that that it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's you know, let me let me
Speaker 1: put them in this scenario and and and let's make
Speaker 1: them have you know, great, great seasons. I mean, and
Speaker 1: then obviously we don't know what it looks like with
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons here without them. We don't really want to
Speaker 1: know it, don't really have to know right now, so
Speaker 1: I you know. But but I also think that was
Speaker 1: a vision that was something like, hey, this guy rushes
Speaker 1: the passer really well, um, we need it. We needed
Speaker 1: some pass rush help here, so let's see about putting
Speaker 1: him on the edge, and now he's an edge rusher.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one other way that I think this
Speaker 1: helps the Cowboys quite a bit. You have a lot
Speaker 1: of players on this defense, and really on this team,
Speaker 1: they got a lot of guys that got to figure
Speaker 1: out contracts for for that are free agents. There some
Speaker 1: notable defensive players that let's assume for a second, dan
Speaker 1: Quinn does go somewhere else. Does he then take a
Speaker 1: lot of some of those players that you may have
Speaker 1: wanted to resign because you can't franchise everybody that you
Speaker 1: may have wanted to resign, and then they want to
Speaker 1: go and play for him because that's when they got
Speaker 1: their best work. And I'm looking at people like Layton
Speaker 1: Vanderesh where I'm like, does Layton say, Hey, I really
Speaker 1: believe in this guy, So wherever he is, that's where
Speaker 1: I want to be. If he's in Dallas, maybe I
Speaker 1: want to stay in Dallas. If he goes somewhere else,
Speaker 1: maybe I want to go there. That I think becomes
Speaker 1: a bigger thing for Dallas. They don't have one guy
Speaker 1: that already has relationships with some of these players, you're
Speaker 1: going to try to resign that might be somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You're right about that, and I'm curious to see how
Speaker 1: that plays a factor. But this is also you know,
Speaker 1: this is like the second contract. Players will say it.
Speaker 1: They've they've been advised forever. They know the second contract.
Speaker 1: It's your contract, it's your contract, this is it. This
Speaker 1: is the window that you've got. So if you're Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 1: if you're Layton Vanderesh, and I know a second contract
Speaker 1: for him as a little different because he signed a
Speaker 1: one year deal. But if he has a chance to
Speaker 1: get a big deal, Leyton, Donovan Wilson, and there's there's
Speaker 1: other players I'm trying to think, you know, Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: is he's getting kind of a different boat too, because
Speaker 1: this is be his third contract. But I just don't
Speaker 1: see as much as Donovan Wilson probably would love to
Speaker 1: come back and play with Dan Quinn, the money's got
Speaker 1: to be pretty close. Yeah, But just to be clear,
Speaker 1: I guess my point was if he goes somewhere else,
Speaker 1: now he's the person in that building that has influence
Speaker 1: that can say we should give a big contract to
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson and maybe that pulls him away from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because maybe it's more money, maybe it's the same money,
Speaker 1: but that he believes in Dan Quinn, that's really more
Speaker 1: the key. And the Cowboys just can't sign everybody. There's
Speaker 1: no way they can. They can sign everybody, and the
Speaker 1: way that they do try to sign a lot of
Speaker 1: people is you've got to you've got to give Dak
Speaker 1: every structure you know. See, and I know we're kind
Speaker 1: of getting off the beaten path on this, but like
Speaker 1: they haven't paid the piper yet on Dak. No, he
Speaker 1: counted like five and on the cap last year. The
Speaker 1: year before that, his base salary was like a million.
Speaker 1: He's averaging forty a year. So if he's only counting
Speaker 1: one or two, what do you think? What do you
Speaker 1: think's coming down the pipe here? So it's gonna be tough, um,
Speaker 1: But the way to do it is probably to extend
Speaker 1: him out. And you extend him out, you can you
Speaker 1: can free up a lot, you can free up a
Speaker 1: lot of money. But then again, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: got to want to be, you know, be able to
Speaker 1: do that, which I think he would. I don't know
Speaker 1: why he wouldn't, um, So that's another thing that's interesting
Speaker 1: to see kind of where he stands and what he's
Speaker 1: thinking is and his agent, because look all it took
Speaker 1: for them to come out with that deal, and he
Speaker 1: was the one who wanted a shorter deal rather than
Speaker 1: a longer one compared to the Cowboys. So I wonder
Speaker 1: where he stands right now because I'm sure possibly he
Speaker 1: would have thought he would be like at a different
Speaker 1: level in his career at this point. Well, and something
Speaker 1: that Stephen said this week from Mobile, he said that
Speaker 1: when the season starts next year, there there's gonna be
Speaker 1: thirteen and maybe fourteen quarterbacks that are making forty million
Speaker 1: a year. So you know, we said this several times
Speaker 1: on here, that yeah, Dak's making forty million a year.
Speaker 1: It was number two at the time, and now it's
Speaker 1: probably going to be a ride around thirteen or fourth league,
Speaker 1: which is when you've when even even the people that
Speaker 1: hate on Dak's game, if you said where does he
Speaker 1: rank among top quarterbacks in the league. He's probably in
Speaker 1: the top half. Some people want to say top ten,
Speaker 1: top fifteen is pretty fair. I'm gonna have You're gonna
Speaker 1: be heartreaspond. Somebody says he's under top fifteen. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's played some some games this year
Speaker 1: that didn't look like a top fifteen quarterback. He's played
Speaker 1: a few games where he looked like top five. So
Speaker 1: you had it all out, and that's probably where he is,
Speaker 1: and that's where he's getting paid. But that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of the way that it goes. I mean, you have
Speaker 1: to make a decision. You know, you have to pay
Speaker 1: him more than than you then you want to pay
Speaker 1: these guys sometimes, but that is the market because you
Speaker 1: don't want to start over every time on a quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's exactly So to stay on the same topic, Steven
Speaker 1: he made a calm and saying he would like to
Speaker 1: have Dak here. He's going to be your guy. He'd
Speaker 1: liked to have him for the next ten years. And
Speaker 1: I think when fans see that on Twitter, you know,
Speaker 1: there's an initial reaction of like those people that very
Speaker 1: much dislike Dak and don't think he's the type of
Speaker 1: quarterback that's gonna take you to a Super Bowl. What
Speaker 1: exactly does an extension mean? Aside from the amount of money,
Speaker 1: how long would this like extension be looking like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you probably it's probably like a three three years
Speaker 1: or so added onto it. I mean, it gets kind
Speaker 1: of tricky because then there's there's there's voidable years. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you have like a six year deal that
Speaker 1: was voided down? So so maybe you put those years
Speaker 1: back on the table. There's a lot of different ways
Speaker 1: to do it. But basically, what you're doing is you're
Speaker 1: just pushing money. You're just pushing money to the outside.
Speaker 1: You're not taking a pay cut. You're just you're pushing
Speaker 1: money to the to the end. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think you got to be real clear on what Stephen said.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we would we would love to have Dak here
Speaker 1: for hopefully the next ten years. That that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: ten years of him throwing two interceptions in a playoff
Speaker 1: game or leading the league and interceptions, of course not.
Speaker 1: It's hopefully it means that Dak, you know, has some
Speaker 1: great years, keeps going. It's worth it. Hey, Dak's our
Speaker 1: guy who's better. Well, nobody, let's keep it going, keep
Speaker 1: it going. They would love for that. When Brady was thirty,
Speaker 1: the Patriots were like, I would love for him to
Speaker 1: be here for the next ten years. Like okay, and
Speaker 1: he was for twelve years. So but that's about the
Speaker 1: only example of that. So hopefully means that Dak is
Speaker 1: playing well enough where that is the best decision on
Speaker 1: the table and does that well, that probably happen, Probably
Speaker 1: not ten years. I mean, I don't see him be
Speaker 1: any player playing forty is that's not the average is
Speaker 1: not going to say that's going to happen. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, and I think it needs to be said.
Speaker 1: I think people forget what we saw this year from
Speaker 1: Dak from the standpoint of interceptions. That's an aberration that
Speaker 1: has not been Dak's career, that has not been something
Speaker 1: he's been known for his career. So for me, I
Speaker 1: look at it, I say, Okay, I'm willing to give
Speaker 1: benefit of doubt that there were circumstances this year, whatever
Speaker 1: they might have been, that led to him having such
Speaker 1: high interception numbers that I'm not willing to make that
Speaker 1: who he is at this point in his career. I
Speaker 1: think it was just an aberration. It was a bad
Speaker 1: year from the standpoint of turnovers. I expect that to
Speaker 1: be better next year. I also expect that Dallas is
Speaker 1: going to do some things to help him out, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, we've talked about that before. Every team,
Speaker 1: every quarterback needs help. If this is not a league
Speaker 1: where you got quarterbacks that are just so good they
Speaker 1: don't need help. Even the quarterback right now that's in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that people in arguably say is the
Speaker 1: best one in the league, Patrick Mahomes, was there a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and they lost the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: because this offensive line did him no favors. He was
Speaker 1: pressured more than anybody in the Super Bowl era of
Speaker 1: the NFL in a super Bowl game, and they lost,
Speaker 1: and they lost badly. So everybody, every quarterback needs some help.
Speaker 1: I think, particularly right now, what they need is they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to give him some more help on the outside.
Speaker 1: But I'm I just think it's an aberration right now,
Speaker 1: and I think don't think we should extrapolate that to
Speaker 1: saying that it's more than just this season. Let's see
Speaker 1: where it goes next year. If it's more of a
Speaker 1: problem next year, now, maybe you have for something to
Speaker 1: talk about, but right now it's just not that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll take our final break, we'll come back. We got
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Speaker 1: have some new things to talk to you guys about.
Speaker 1: As this week happens, there will always be news around
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. So let's talk about some of these
Speaker 1: other coaches who had contracts that were expiring and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys decided to allow them to expire. I'm gonna run
Speaker 1: off the names for you, and then I'm gonna ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: which of those coaches do you think it was most
Speaker 1: surprising that Dallas didn't resign. You had assistant head coach
Speaker 1: Rob Davis, quarterback po coach Doug nust Meyer, running back
Speaker 1: coach Skip Pete, offensive line coach Joe Philbin second, or
Speaker 1: the backup defensive line coach Leon Lett linebacker coach George Edwards,
Speaker 1: Which do you think was most surprising? Philbin, to me
Speaker 1: was the most surprising. But it's a close tie with
Speaker 1: Skip Pete. But I would say Philbin because I thought
Speaker 1: the offensive line did a great job of adjusting all
Speaker 1: year long. They were a pretty cohesive group when there
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of cohesiveness there. So I thought they
Speaker 1: did a really good job. Was surprised by that, and
Speaker 1: come to find out that Philbin was making a lot
Speaker 1: of money. I mean, this contract was really high, like
Speaker 1: almost three million dollars or something like that. For an
Speaker 1: offensive well, that's pretty it's up there. But for coaches,
Speaker 1: I mean you, I mean, there's no salary cap, so
Speaker 1: you pay for good ones. I thought he was a
Speaker 1: good one. I was kind of surprised that they were
Speaker 1: going a different route there. Well, not to take credit
Speaker 1: away from the running backs, but for a lot of
Speaker 1: that to happen, you got to give credit initially to
Speaker 1: the old line. And I keep remembering all the times
Speaker 1: that the old line, as soon as there was an injury,
Speaker 1: it would just nothing would work. And that was a
Speaker 1: huge thing and it was a huge problem for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: So for me to transition from that to now you
Speaker 1: see so many different guys a different positions getting hurt,
Speaker 1: and now you're having to shuffle guys around, make changes
Speaker 1: on the spot, be prepared for what could happen. We
Speaker 1: saw it in what game was that when McGovern had
Speaker 1: to go in that center Tennessee. It was when Beatis
Speaker 1: got hurt Tennessee. So yeah, yeah, Tennessee. And then you
Speaker 1: saw those shuffling, which is not necessarily easy to do.
Speaker 1: So to see that they have been capable of doing
Speaker 1: something like that and be successful at it, are good
Speaker 1: enough to just keep you going and get you through
Speaker 1: the game. I thought it was a very impressive job
Speaker 1: and something that I haven't seen another on line coach
Speaker 1: do here for the Dallas Cowboys. So that was very
Speaker 1: very surprising when I found out that they kind of didn't.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of them though, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Philbin was the biggest one, but Pete, you
Speaker 1: know that was that was a surprise that the running backs,
Speaker 1: I think all had better years than they had the
Speaker 1: year before, and that includes Zeke. I thought Zeke had
Speaker 1: a better year and the backups, like, I mean, those guys,
Speaker 1: it's all about developing young players and Philbin did it
Speaker 1: obviously with the all O line with Beotist and Steele
Speaker 1: and McGovern and tarn I mean Tyler Smith, let's not
Speaker 1: you know, what he did was amazing last year. Um
Speaker 1: so that those are surprising. Mica Edwards, Mica Parsons loves
Speaker 1: George Edwards and to let him go that was that
Speaker 1: was kind of an odd move. I mean, your right
Speaker 1: hand man is Rob Davis and Mike McCarthy and then
Speaker 1: they let him go. I really think at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it comes down to the fact, and
Speaker 1: Jerry said it on the radio last year. I don't
Speaker 1: think he loved the fact. There's twenty nine, twenty nine
Speaker 1: coaches on this team. Twenty nine coaches A lot of coaches.
Speaker 1: Typically you have how many I mean, I would I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what twenty proper position, maybe
Speaker 1: a couple like backup type guys. But yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean to have twenty nine, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: where and I'm not gonna say that, I mean trimming
Speaker 1: the fat. It sounds bad because it sounds like they
Speaker 1: weren't doing anything but I just think it was just
Speaker 1: trimming it, trimming it down. Do you guys take anything
Speaker 1: from the fact or this this could just be pure
Speaker 1: coincidence and it was about the individual situations with each one.
Speaker 1: But do you guys take anything from the fact that
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator, your quarterback coach, your running back coach,
Speaker 1: your offensive line coach, like that's your offense basically, that
Speaker 1: all those coaches will be different. Do you take a
Speaker 1: bigger is there a bigger picture story do you think
Speaker 1: here or do you think it was just simply with
Speaker 1: each one of them there was a different reason why
Speaker 1: they were no longer back. I think that's a good question,
Speaker 1: and I think the answer is both. I think there's
Speaker 1: probably a different, different thing for all of them, but
Speaker 1: it's probably it all's gonna funnel up to Mic here.
Speaker 1: And I think Mike's like, listen, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: going down here with the ship, I mean, this is it.
Speaker 1: He's got. He's got to go to the NFC Championship Game.
Speaker 1: I think if he doesn't do that, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna get that contract extension that he's looking for.
Speaker 1: And so he feels that and it's like I'm gonna. Okay,
Speaker 1: some of these guys were hand picked for me. Something
Speaker 1: of them I did bring in. But we're gonna, we're
Speaker 1: gonna make some changes here, you know, And I don't
Speaker 1: know what I don't. We look at Philbin, we look
Speaker 1: at Pete, we look at these guys that go, Man,
Speaker 1: these are good coaches, but behind closed doors, we don't
Speaker 1: know exactly how they've meshed with with the coach and
Speaker 1: how they fit in and and just what the overall
Speaker 1: philosophy is. There's a thought process about running backs coach
Speaker 1: that that you and I could could coach running backs.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of the thought generally, there's a generally yeah,
Speaker 1: and look at look at how much they make. They're
Speaker 1: I think they're the lowest paid position across the board
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's just and look at the franchise
Speaker 1: tag for running backs. I mean it's ten point one.
Speaker 1: That's the lowest one. And that's what I was saying
Speaker 1: to say about Skip And nothing against Saim. I absolutely
Speaker 1: love the guy and love what he's done and as
Speaker 1: a person, but it's that mentality that Nick just mentioned,
Speaker 1: not just with let's say coaching, but even the player themselves,
Speaker 1: Like it's this thought that you can easily quickly replace
Speaker 1: a running back with somebody younger, somebody fresher, draft a guy,
Speaker 1: come in, plug at him and play. And it's one
Speaker 1: of quote unquote easiest positions where you can just keep
Speaker 1: you know, their life spam in the NFL. It's not
Speaker 1: as long as the rest of the other positions. But
Speaker 1: quick question, and this might be dumb or not. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've never really given thoughts to it, But
Speaker 1: where does the money come from as far as like playing,
Speaker 1: paying coaches salary? Jerry's pet? It's nothing, no, no type
Speaker 1: of it's it's no different. It's no different. Honestly, it's
Speaker 1: no different than what he pays any of us. Like
Speaker 1: it's complete between us and a little different ry. Not
Speaker 1: for you obviously, but for us amber for me. No, no,
Speaker 1: But I think how much money the NFL is making
Speaker 1: every year? Um No, But it's it's about that's a
Speaker 1: former player of the Cowboys we're seeing on TV. But no,
Speaker 1: it's it's about It's about nothing more than whatever the
Speaker 1: owner and GM works out with those coaches. It's not
Speaker 1: the league does not necessarily say there's this cat that
Speaker 1: you can't go over and so then it just becomes
Speaker 1: a function of your business. In your business, how much
Speaker 1: do you want to pay for these particular roles that instance. Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes it very interesting to me because one thing
Speaker 1: we do know is if Jerry wants something, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get it. If he wants to have if he loved
Speaker 1: this guy, he's gonna make it work. So it's really
Speaker 1: interesting to see because I feel like in our eyes,
Speaker 1: these guys did a really good job as coaches, but
Speaker 1: who knows what happens behind this door. We're not in
Speaker 1: those meetings, we're not there. But the end result of
Speaker 1: what at least they've shown the public eye has been
Speaker 1: pretty good. So it is interesting to see what's happening
Speaker 1: just on the offense overall what you say and all
Speaker 1: these changes, I mean part of it, and obviously none
Speaker 1: of us knows, but it could be a situation where
Speaker 1: it literally it's just like, you know, you like what
Speaker 1: you have. But at the end of the day, these
Speaker 1: twenty nine coaches haven't delivered a different result than say,
Speaker 1: twenty right, and so it's like, okay, we tried it
Speaker 1: the way of doing twenty nine coaches that ain't really
Speaker 1: showing us different results. Maybe we ought to change up
Speaker 1: our process. And I mean, we all know what the
Speaker 1: definition of insanity is, right, do the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over expecting different results. So I do think that
Speaker 1: I do think that there is a possibility. Again, this
Speaker 1: is all speculation, but there's a possibility at some point
Speaker 1: that just from a business standpoint, you start saying, we've
Speaker 1: had a lot of extra bodies and we haven't really
Speaker 1: seen a difference in those extra bodies providing more in
Speaker 1: the outcome, and so maybe we should trim that a
Speaker 1: little bit, and maybe we should be a little more
Speaker 1: thoughtful about who that one person is instead of the
Speaker 1: two people you will have at that position, or the
Speaker 1: three guys you have here. Can you do that with
Speaker 1: one or two that are that are maybe more qualified
Speaker 1: or better at handling as one or two? Right? Who knows?
Speaker 1: But I just think from from a business standpoint, that's
Speaker 1: how I would be thinking about it. If I running
Speaker 1: a group and I'm trying to think about where I'm
Speaker 1: going to spend my dollars, if I've been really, really
Speaker 1: fat and i haven't seen a difference, at some point
Speaker 1: you say is this worth it? Yeah? Well, and I
Speaker 1: think there may not be a salary cap. There's not
Speaker 1: a salary cap for coaches. There's probably something in Jerry's
Speaker 1: mind of what the coaches should get and how much
Speaker 1: we're paying. And if he's paying a defensive coordinator stuff.
Speaker 1: You have a budget, as does every business, so is
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is probably making a little bit more. So Yeah,
Speaker 1: like all right, he's gonna more about this budget. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's a head coach. Like we're good. And you know,
Speaker 1: I honestly i'd never the role that that that Rob
Speaker 1: Davis played for this team. I had never even heard
Speaker 1: of until he got here. Um, the coaches that had
Speaker 1: been here previous to that, I'd never really heard of
Speaker 1: them having that kind of role. Now, maybe they had
Speaker 1: somebody on their staff that did those kinds of things,
Speaker 1: but I never really heard of someone who was dedicated
Speaker 1: to that. They really didn't have a position group. They
Speaker 1: were the assistant head coach. But it was more of it.
Speaker 1: The way it was described to me by someone was
Speaker 1: he was like your culture coach. He was more about
Speaker 1: creating the right culture for your team, which in most
Speaker 1: instances you would suspect that the head coach creates the
Speaker 1: culture and he's the one that's engaging with guys on
Speaker 1: a personal level and making sure that they feel the
Speaker 1: right way about the culture of the team. It's just
Speaker 1: it was a different way of doing it. Maybe they
Speaker 1: decided at some point it just wasn't you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of extra value. In college, you always hear about
Speaker 1: these coaches they know everything. Yeah, you know, like even
Speaker 1: though there may be an older guy, but they're like,
Speaker 1: you don't think I hear things like I know what's
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, And it's because there are people that
Speaker 1: report to them that are on the end. They're not
Speaker 1: in the weight room, ye, I mean, like the head
Speaker 1: coach isn't, but these other coaches are. They're down at
Speaker 1: the meeting rooms. They kind of know what's going on.
Speaker 1: They're talking to guys every day. Yeah, yeah, hey someone
Speaker 1: so I was dealing with this at home, or you're
Speaker 1: about to have a baby or whatever. You know, like
Speaker 1: there's just people that kind of know what's going on.
Speaker 1: And he was one of them. And there was a
Speaker 1: lot more things probably that he did. But you know,
Speaker 1: that was a tough one I think for McCarthy. But
Speaker 1: you know that that let me know that Jerry was
Speaker 1: probably making some of these moves here too. And don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I a lot of these guys on
Speaker 1: this list, in my opinion, have been some of the
Speaker 1: when you just talk about good guys, some of the
Speaker 1: best coaches that I've seen come through this building in
Speaker 1: the years I've been here. I actually I think joy
Speaker 1: spending time with Skip Pete. He was He's a good
Speaker 1: man and always gave good perspective. Was willing to talk
Speaker 1: to us about things that, you know, and give us
Speaker 1: perspective that we may not have had otherwise. So and
Speaker 1: I really appreciate guys like to miss that at training camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely. I mean, if you could just deal with
Speaker 1: the cigar smoke for a few hours, you just deal
Speaker 1: with you know, He's sitting there just telling stories and
Speaker 1: just talking about you know, he had a plan all year.
Speaker 1: He had a plan. He was like, Zeke's gonna get
Speaker 1: the ball less, he's gonna be better. Paulard is gonna
Speaker 1: get the ball only a little bit more, but he
Speaker 1: is going to be better. And I'm gonna get this
Speaker 1: third guy, which he thought was Rico Daddle. It turned
Speaker 1: out to beat Davis. But you know, but he had
Speaker 1: a plan all along and it worked perfectly. It really
Speaker 1: did work perfectly when you think about a guy that
Speaker 1: didn't start that's in the Pro Bowl. Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I asked that question about the
Speaker 1: bigger picture is because you look at him, you look
Speaker 1: at Philbin, you look at George Edwards, and you start
Speaker 1: thinking man. In each of those cases, there are probably
Speaker 1: guys you could throw out there that played at a
Speaker 1: higher level than you thought was they were capable of
Speaker 1: this year, which you would give at least some difference
Speaker 1: to the coach. Yet they didn't have their contracts renewed,
Speaker 1: and so it's just I think there are lots of
Speaker 1: things that factor into those kinds of decisions, and for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, the Cowboys side to move on and the
Speaker 1: coaches are going to move on. So all right, we'll
Speaker 1: be back next week. We'll get into that running back
Speaker 1: conversation next week, because they're not going anywhere between now
Speaker 1: and then. We'll talk about Zeke and Pollard, maybe even
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about dak that next week. Until then.
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