WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Staff Reset

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com. Were with Nick Eatman, Brian brought us,

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<v Speaker 1>and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Friday, February third,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, season eighteen, episode number one fourteen. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the latest edition of The Break Life and SWBC

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<v Speaker 1>Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're presented by Middle Light,

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<v Speaker 1>the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys, and we appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you guys being patient with us this week. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>our show on a Friday afternoon. That was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be on Tuesday, but then it was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday, but never really quite happened and we just

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<v Speaker 1>ended up on Friday. So thank you guys for being

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<v Speaker 1>patient with us. Got Nick back in town, we got

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<v Speaker 1>Amber up here through all the ice. I'm here. Brian

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<v Speaker 1>did not make it so he won't be joining us today,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will try to make it work this week

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<v Speaker 1>and back next week we'll be back on our schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess not even back, but we will be starting

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<v Speaker 1>our offseason schedule. Our normal time will be every Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven eleven or ten eleven thanks eleven ten every

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday at ten am Central time. You guys will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to hear us and I will give you the

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<v Speaker 1>latest news and our opinions on it. So do Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>because Brian has something going on with the like the

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<v Speaker 1>fan at World five, because it's not like he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it, because Brian thrives on moments like that, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like icy and all that. He was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm coming, I'm gonna be here. I'll be the

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<v Speaker 1>first one there. Yeah, the only one there. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he couldn't make it because of weather. He hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know, He's in radio all day long. Yeah. It's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting because I noticed on one on five Dot three

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<v Speaker 1>the fan. You know they do the camera where you

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<v Speaker 1>can see all the hosts talking and Brian's show I

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<v Speaker 1>saw this week Brian was the only one in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio on camera. Everybody else was at their home. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's Brian. Brian is not He's like, yes, the worst

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<v Speaker 1>the conditions, Brian's like, I'm gonna figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to be there because yeah, exactly, So that's just that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he does. But yeah, I think he lost a

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<v Speaker 1>bet on air, and as a result of losing the bet,

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<v Speaker 1>he has to do every show all day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think he got on this morning and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on until like nine o'clock tonight. So good luck Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>Have fun with that. That's a lot of talking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody can do it, Brian can do it. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, let's let's jump in. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of news that's happened throughout this week, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good time for us to do a show on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday because there's so much we can talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to start, obviously with what I think

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest piece of news, which was Cowboys mutually

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<v Speaker 1>agree with Kellen Moore to move on. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>meantime after that, Kellen Moore is already a new offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator with the Los Angeles Chargers. Stephen talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>this week at the Senior Bowl, and you mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still a part of it, it doesn't he He

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about that with regards to Mike McCarthy and

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<v Speaker 1>how that all works from the head coach to the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator. He says, there's still part of that. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't totally job with what McCarthy wants out of the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you guys take from that? Well, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Stephen was just trying to point out that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, everybody, everybody still respects Kellen and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the end of the day, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's just differences of opinion, and I it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that when you hear it, it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>big a deal. When you put it out on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a quote, it looks like it. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no different than you and I worked together and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a difference of opinion on certain things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not to the point yet that you're letting me go.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you know, but I'm not saying that they

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<v Speaker 1>let him go. No, I'm just saying, but people have

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<v Speaker 1>different No. No, I'm saying people have different opinions on stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was kind of like, yeah, like he

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<v Speaker 1>respects Kellen, but you know what didn't get said, And

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<v Speaker 1>this is what the way I'll take it is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everyone thinks or knows that Mikey McCarthy's got to

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<v Speaker 1>keep winning here. You can't go backwards at all. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got to keep winning, make it break season, if that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to call it. Probably he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the NFC Championship game. So he probably feels

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<v Speaker 1>that pressure and he's like, listen, this is the way

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<v Speaker 1>it is. Like I've done it for three years with Kellen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's a different way to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd like to do it this way. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kevin probably saw it too. Yeah, when you

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<v Speaker 1>initially said big surprise, I thought you were gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn because that was a huge surprise. But as

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<v Speaker 1>far as Kellen Morton, you know, I think he he

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<v Speaker 1>has a lot of talent, and I think he did

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<v Speaker 1>a really really good job while he was with the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>To see his transition from being a backup quarterback to

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<v Speaker 1>then transition to becoming the backup the quarterbacks coach and

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<v Speaker 1>then quickly becoming the OC, that's pretty impressive. And to

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<v Speaker 1>see the amount of stats that he was able to

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<v Speaker 1>put up despite everything, despite Dak being out, despite all

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<v Speaker 1>the different challenges you're not having the right amount of talent,

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver, he was able to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things for you. But I do agree was probably time,

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about it last week. Definitely time for

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<v Speaker 1>a different voice. It wasn't just working. It just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>working out. And I think he's gonna do good things

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<v Speaker 1>over there with the Chargers, so I'm rooting for him,

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<v Speaker 1>not when we face them, but just in general. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's time. I'm curious to see how it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work out, though, with Mike McCarthy calling the place now,

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<v Speaker 1>because now you ain't got nobody else to put the

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<v Speaker 1>blame on, that's all you. And we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it before the show, Derek a little bit this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's just like, why didn't you take over

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<v Speaker 1>a little sooner? You know when you see it because

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<v Speaker 1>we go through every year and you know how much

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<v Speaker 1>the team changes. We were almost in the verage of

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<v Speaker 1>losing dan Quinn and him going somewhere else. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to you're gonna lose players. It's just the roster continued

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<v Speaker 1>like always changes and to me, last year, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we were pretty close. Despite of how the season went,

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<v Speaker 1>it got pretty close. So in my eyes I'm just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have trust, even though aside of you have

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<v Speaker 1>different opinions and philosophy and all that, but you're the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. Like I would have liked him to maybe

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<v Speaker 1>take over a lot sooner if he felt very strongly

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<v Speaker 1>about some of the decisions are not the decisions that

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<v Speaker 1>were made well, I think, first of all, let's put

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<v Speaker 1>this in context. I don't think it's just talk when

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<v Speaker 1>they say this was a mutually agreed to decision. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think this is a situation where it's just cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>are like, hey, Kellen, we really don't want you here

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<v Speaker 1>next year, so mutually we agree. Like, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>was a mutual decision, maybe as much Kellen as it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Cowboys. I don't know which way it fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was sixty forty one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is I think it was a mutual decision.

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<v Speaker 1>But I personally, and you're talking to you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before the show. I don't think last

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<v Speaker 1>year would have been the right year for Mike to

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<v Speaker 1>make that kind of move. You were coming off a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve and five season, you were coming off a year

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<v Speaker 1>we had the top offense in the league. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if he makes that move, then I think the question

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<v Speaker 1>I would have had questions because my thought would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the Cowboys invested in Kellen Moore as a young

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator with very little experience, really no experience doing

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<v Speaker 1>the job at just the moment when this offense seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's starting to take off. That doesn't mean it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have its growing pains and it's still not quite perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's starting the show signs as being the top offense

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<v Speaker 1>in the league that he has, he's on the right track.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been a little weird for me to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've finally seen some return from this investment,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just rip it up. That wouldn't have been the

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<v Speaker 1>right time saying like mid season. I mean, it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think that's the thing I don't like. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't like do that mid season for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>unless unless the wheels have fallen off, which at no

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<v Speaker 1>point this year did I feel like the offenses wheels

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<v Speaker 1>fell off. Unless the wheels have completely fallen off, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't know that that's moved to make. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he had one game where he would say that it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of wobbly because see Cooper. When when Dad

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt, then Cooper comes in and so it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with the offense. I think everyone just thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because Dad's not in it. And then the one

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<v Speaker 1>game in Detroit they didn't really play well for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>That comes back and it's like, okay, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was the Bears game and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just went crazy. So like it was almost like if

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't play well against the Bears, I could see

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<v Speaker 1>or something. You know, now, now we got a problem

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<v Speaker 1>because Dad's been back two weeks and it's not getting fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it got fixed. They went to the buy. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty good offensive showing in Green Bay, then Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's coming. It was almost like when the injury

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<v Speaker 1>kind of almost put its pause on everything, like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't evaluate anything because there's an injury. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Dad came back and had pretty good So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was the right time to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't think it's a this is

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<v Speaker 1>that big a deal. I just think it's like McCarthy's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'll call the plays, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who the offensive coordinator is yet. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of names. They've interviewed two guys, there's some, there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Schottenheimer's also a guy that could be in the

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<v Speaker 1>mix here either way. I mean, if he's calling plays,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter bring it to that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the structure of the offense. But I get

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<v Speaker 1>the sense, and I don't know if this is always

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<v Speaker 1>the case, but it's like everything is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more connected, like everything, you know, like hit bones

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<v Speaker 1>connected to the kneebone type stuff, where it's like running backs, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line, receivers tighten. I mean, it's all going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more of a cohesive group. That's

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<v Speaker 1>at least the plan. We'll get to that in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to talk about some of the players,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the coaches that they that they didn't renew

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe what that means. We haven't had a show

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. Honestly, there's so many different things that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened this week. Before we move on, though, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to ask you guys, are he at all

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about Mike McCarthy calling plays and still being able

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<v Speaker 1>to manage the responsibilities of a head coach, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen over the years there have been a number of

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<v Speaker 1>head coaches, really good head coaches who have a particular

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<v Speaker 1>discipline offense or defense that as time goes on, they're

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<v Speaker 1>originally I mean, they're eventually removed from the responsibility of

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<v Speaker 1>the offense or the defense so that they can really

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<v Speaker 1>be focused on managing the game. There have been questions

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<v Speaker 1>about Mike's decisions in games, fair or not throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>last several seasons. So that being said, are you at

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<v Speaker 1>all concerned about him now being calling the plays in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to trying to manage the game? You know, not really,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna look at it from more of a

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<v Speaker 1>positive spin. Maybe it's maybe it's actually easier to call

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<v Speaker 1>a game when you're managing to manage the game when

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<v Speaker 1>you're calling it, because it's one thing to say, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of know what we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>when you get in field goal range. We're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to kick this field goal, So let's call play here.

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<v Speaker 1>But but and and you know, and Kellen's thinking, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to get a first down. I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do this and then, and you can't communicate everything in

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen seconds, so you know, maybe it's almost easier what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing here. I know, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ball. I want to kick a field

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<v Speaker 1>goal here. I want to run the ball to the

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<v Speaker 1>left side to get right in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, of course, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's a good spot for a field goal. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't. That's kind of a bad example.

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<v Speaker 1>But it comes to they can't make any kicks right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you know, I just maybe you can eat

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<v Speaker 1>call a game even better when you're managing it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. I wouldn't know that. Yeah, you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't know how. You've never been

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<v Speaker 1>on a sideline calling a game before. No, Now, in

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<v Speaker 1>the game that I did, I wasn't managing the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, so five year olds are a little

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<v Speaker 1>easier though, right. That was it was kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>flag football game back in college. It was the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, that wasn't that game. That wouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 1>coming that flag football. No, when rama was playing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't managing anything there. I was just blocking. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it was like you were blocking like

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke on the final play, or I just wondered why. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny, is yeah, yeah, everyone's like Jon Curse is

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<v Speaker 1>tweeting out like I got Tom Brady's last interception. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, is Zeke had the ball? Zeke

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<v Speaker 1>snapped the ball at center the last you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a trivia question. What was the last position Zeke played

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<v Speaker 1>for the gab Boys center? And he doesn't remember it

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<v Speaker 1>because he got hit really hard? Are you teaming up

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<v Speaker 1>the next segment as to what you think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen with Zeke? Oh, if that happens, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's coming back. I say that we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that well. I mean, I'm sure we have to

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<v Speaker 1>go to break pretty soon. But my answer is quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree with Nike as far as like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he'll be a very difficult transcision, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he'll be fine because he's still gonna They're still

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hire an LC to come in here and take

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<v Speaker 1>over some of the responsibilities, and so he's still gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have the help he needs around him. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>agree it's a lot easier when you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with somebody else that quickly and you can just

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<v Speaker 1>make your own decision and you're the guy to call. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I like the most quote unquote is we would

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<v Speaker 1>know specifically who to point. I don't like finger pointing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this, I'm not a fan of fingerpointing. But

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<v Speaker 1>even last year we were wondering, okay, how much input,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the percentage between the amount of voice and decision

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<v Speaker 1>that is taken during the game between Kellen and Mike McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't know really the answer to that. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we will know for sure who's making these calls, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to specifically extend in front of Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>after a game and ask him specifically those questions and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be able to hopefully give you some feedback

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<v Speaker 1>right then and there rather than I mean, they still

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<v Speaker 1>got a look at tape after the game, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it gives you a clear answer on who's doing what.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see he's done it in Green Bay. He

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<v Speaker 1>has the experience. We'll see if if the offense truly

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<v Speaker 1>changes because on the defensive side of the ball, you

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<v Speaker 1>got another head coach there on that side. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think all the way around this worked

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<v Speaker 1>out for everyone. This is one of the situations that

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<v Speaker 1>worked for everybody, because I do think the Cowboys quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Kellen did a bad job, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes I remember Bill Parcel's talking about how I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care who you are as a coach. At some

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<v Speaker 1>point whatever your thing is gonna run thin, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be time for a new voice. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just think this is a good time for a new voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think Kellen landed in a perfect spot talk

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<v Speaker 1>about when to throw the ball. He's got a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that could sling it, and I expect their offense to

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<v Speaker 1>be that kind of offense next year. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a traditional running game, they have a running back who

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<v Speaker 1>is a great guy out in space that you can

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<v Speaker 1>throw the ball too, So you think about it from

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<v Speaker 1>that standpoint, I think it's gonna be a great fit

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<v Speaker 1>for Kellen. So I think all the way around, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>comes out better and let's see how it all turns out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think because Kellen has success there it necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>means he would have had success here in order, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or vice versa. I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was just the right timing for this

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<v Speaker 1>move to just do something a little different than see

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<v Speaker 1>blockchain dot com. Let's talk about Dan Quinn, defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys. He is returning. There was there was

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<v Speaker 1>lots of speculation that he would be leaving as a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. He'd interviewed for a number of different head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching vacancies around the NFL. Then the news came out

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<v Speaker 1>that he informed those teams that he did not plan

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the Cowboys, planned to be here, wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>finish the work that he'd been doing here. How surprised

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<v Speaker 1>were you guys that he didn't end up taking a

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<v Speaker 1>head coaching job and decided to come back here and

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<v Speaker 1>remains the defensive coordinator. I didn't think it was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>happen again. I thought, you know, they got lucky last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably wasn't gonna happen this time. And you gotta remember,

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn came out and said that this offseason he

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for this. He prepared for his interviews, He prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, what he would say in the event

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<v Speaker 1>that he was playing in a playoff game but also

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<v Speaker 1>interviewing at the same time. So it's not like he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to be a head coach. He does want

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<v Speaker 1>to be a head coach. He was preparing for it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's waiting for the right situation to come along. But

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<v Speaker 1>as it stands right now, this is still a good

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<v Speaker 1>spot for him. Um with with the Cowboys. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're coaching you know my I mean Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Parsons and you've got you've got a great you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've just got a great set up here. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's making um pretty good money, you know, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>head coach money. So he's doing fine there and he's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting on it on the right spot. Yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 1>not believe the news when I saw it. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry freaking Jones. He I mean, obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it came down to Dan Quinn's decision, obviously um, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time he has to be happy and

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<v Speaker 1>with the right people and Jerry Jones to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, and like Nick said, salary we gotta remember,

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<v Speaker 1>is that still applying the whole were his contract or

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<v Speaker 1>money that he was making previously from Atlanta. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, honestly, And if so, it's usually an

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<v Speaker 1>offset thing, so it's what what it was made. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of pay the difference because I remember he was

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<v Speaker 1>still making money out of from that and while he

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<v Speaker 1>was still working here, So it's just like the salary.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you add everything up, it was still pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>But my thought process when I saw that is that maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>just maybe because once again Jerry Jones has come out

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<v Speaker 1>and he has full support of Mike McCarthy and he

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<v Speaker 1>still has I believe, two years left in his contract,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe that's a scenario. This is a scenario where

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<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn possibly realizes what could happen in the near

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<v Speaker 1>future and this could be a place where he could

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<v Speaker 1>become potentially a head coach later on, and he sees

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity. He also see the amount of support. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you look at Twitter and things like that, just

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of support that his own players give him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a players is that what you call him? Players coach?

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<v Speaker 1>He's very, very tight. He's a great guy, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a football knowledge and what he's done as a DC,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a person, so humble and everything. You just

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<v Speaker 1>love the guy. So everyone is happy. Everybody's happy to

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<v Speaker 1>have him here. I'm freaking excited, especially because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure kind of how they're gonna handle free agency, and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what dun quinn has been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do during free agency with guys that are not like

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<v Speaker 1>top player, a lot of money, big splashes, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>still being able to take veteran guys and make a

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<v Speaker 1>name out of them again kind of refreshed their career here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really really excited to have him back. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was a great move for Dallas obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it was a situation too where it all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of worked out where you know, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>getting inside Dan's head, but you have to think about

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that are factors here. He might have

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<v Speaker 1>looked at all the positions that were available as head

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and none of them was a great situation as

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<v Speaker 1>far as maybe the things that he looks at that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd want to have in place to take a new job,

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<v Speaker 1>and he might be thinking next year might have a

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<v Speaker 1>better opportunity. Um. And so either way, however it goes,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever was involved in that decision, it worked out for

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. They get their defensive coordinator back, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>their defense continues to improve because it is, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the better defenses in the league. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got, like like Amber said, I mean, the guys

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<v Speaker 1>like jay Ron Curse, Donovan Wilson, players that he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had a good vision for that that it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's let's you know, let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>put them in this scenario and and and let's make

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.240
<v Speaker 1>them have you know, great, great seasons. I mean, and

0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>then obviously we don't know what it looks like with

0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Micah Parsons here without them. We don't really want to

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:35.360
<v Speaker 1>know it, don't really have to know right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>I you know. But but I also think that was

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:40.920
<v Speaker 1>a vision that was something like, hey, this guy rushes

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the passer really well, um, we need it. We needed

0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 1>some pass rush help here, so let's see about putting

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:49.439
<v Speaker 1>him on the edge, and now he's an edge rusher.

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you one other way that I think this

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 1>helps the Cowboys quite a bit. You have a lot

0:22:53.320 --> 0:22:56.000
<v Speaker 1>of players on this defense, and really on this team,

0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they got a lot of guys that got to figure

0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 1>out contracts for for that are free agents. There some

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>notable defensive players that let's assume for a second, dan

0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Quinn does go somewhere else. Does he then take a

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of some of those players that you may have

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to resign because you can't franchise everybody that you

0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.560
<v Speaker 1>may have wanted to resign, and then they want to

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>go and play for him because that's when they got

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.680
<v Speaker 1>their best work. And I'm looking at people like Layton

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Vanderesh where I'm like, does Layton say, Hey, I really

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 1>believe in this guy, So wherever he is, that's where

0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I want to be. If he's in Dallas, maybe I

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>want to stay in Dallas. If he goes somewhere else,

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>maybe I want to go there. That I think becomes

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>a bigger thing for Dallas. They don't have one guy

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that already has relationships with some of these players, you're

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>going to try to resign that might be somewhere else.

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:38.160
<v Speaker 1>You're right about that, and I'm curious to see how

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that plays a factor. But this is also you know,

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 1>this is like the second contract. Players will say it.

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 1>They've they've been advised forever. They know the second contract.

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 1>It's your contract, it's your contract, this is it. This

0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>is the window that you've got. So if you're Donovan Wilson,

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're Layton Vanderesh, and I know a second contract

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>for him as a little different because he signed a

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.600
<v Speaker 1>one year deal. But if he has a chance to

0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>get a big deal, Leyton, Donovan Wilson, and there's there's

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 1>other players I'm trying to think, you know, Anthony Brown

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is he's getting kind of a different boat too, because

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>this is be his third contract. But I just don't

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 1>see as much as Donovan Wilson probably would love to

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>come back and play with Dan Quinn, the money's got

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty close. Yeah, But just to be clear,

0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess my point was if he goes somewhere else,

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>now he's the person in that building that has influence

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>that can say we should give a big contract to

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Wilson and maybe that pulls him away from the

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys because maybe it's more money, maybe it's the same money,

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>but that he believes in Dan Quinn, that's really more

0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>the key. And the Cowboys just can't sign everybody. There's

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>no way they can. They can sign everybody, and the

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>way that they do try to sign a lot of

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:47.440
<v Speaker 1>people is you've got to you've got to give Dak

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 1>every structure you know. See, and I know we're kind

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 1>of getting off the beaten path on this, but like

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 1>they haven't paid the piper yet on Dak. No, he

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>counted like five and on the cap last year. The

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>year before that, his base salary was like a million.

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.800
<v Speaker 1>He's averaging forty a year. So if he's only counting

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>one or two, what do you think? What do you

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>think's coming down the pipe here? So it's gonna be tough, um,

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>But the way to do it is probably to extend

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>him out. And you extend him out, you can you

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 1>can free up a lot, you can free up a

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. But then again, you know, and he's

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>got to want to be, you know, be able to

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>do that, which I think he would. I don't know

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 1>why he wouldn't, um, So that's another thing that's interesting

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.959
<v Speaker 1>to see kind of where he stands and what he's

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking is and his agent, because look all it took

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 1>for them to come out with that deal, and he

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.959
<v Speaker 1>was the one who wanted a shorter deal rather than

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a longer one compared to the Cowboys. So I wonder

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>where he stands right now because I'm sure possibly he

0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>would have thought he would be like at a different

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>level in his career at this point. Well, and something

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that Stephen said this week from Mobile, he said that

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>when the season starts next year, there there's gonna be

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>thirteen and maybe fourteen quarterbacks that are making forty million

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>a year. So you know, we said this several times

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 1>on here, that yeah, Dak's making forty million a year.

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>It was number two at the time, and now it's

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 1>probably going to be a ride around thirteen or fourth league,

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.719
<v Speaker 1>which is when you've when even even the people that

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>hate on Dak's game, if you said where does he

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>rank among top quarterbacks in the league. He's probably in

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the top half. Some people want to say top ten,

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>top fifteen is pretty fair. I'm gonna have You're gonna

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>be heartreaspond. Somebody says he's under top fifteen. Yeah, yeah,

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, and he's played some some games this year

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that didn't look like a top fifteen quarterback. He's played

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a few games where he looked like top five. So

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>you had it all out, and that's probably where he is,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's where he's getting paid. But that's that's kind

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 1>of the way that it goes. I mean, you have

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:00.919
<v Speaker 1>to make a decision. You know, you have to pay

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 1>him more than than you then you want to pay

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>these guys sometimes, but that is the market because you

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to start over every time on a quarterback.

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly So to stay on the same topic, Steven

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>he made a calm and saying he would like to

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 1>have Dak here. He's going to be your guy. He'd

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>liked to have him for the next ten years. And

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I think when fans see that on Twitter, you know,

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>there's an initial reaction of like those people that very

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>much dislike Dak and don't think he's the type of

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that's gonna take you to a Super Bowl. What

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 1>exactly does an extension mean? Aside from the amount of money,

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>how long would this like extension be looking like, yeah,

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>it's you probably it's probably like a three three years

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 1>or so added onto it. I mean, it gets kind

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.239
<v Speaker 1>of tricky because then there's there's there's voidable years. I mean,

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>what do you have like a six year deal that

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>was voided down? So so maybe you put those years

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>back on the table. There's a lot of different ways

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>to do it. But basically, what you're doing is you're

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>just pushing money. You're just pushing money to the outside.

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not taking a pay cut. You're just you're pushing

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>money to the to the end. And you know, I

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>think you got to be real clear on what Stephen said.

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we would we would love to have Dak here

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>for hopefully the next ten years. That that doesn't mean

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>ten years of him throwing two interceptions in a playoff

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>game or leading the league and interceptions, of course not.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 1>It's hopefully it means that Dak, you know, has some

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>great years, keeps going. It's worth it. Hey, Dak's our

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 1>guy who's better. Well, nobody, let's keep it going, keep

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>it going. They would love for that. When Brady was thirty,

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots were like, I would love for him to

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>be here for the next ten years. Like okay, and

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>he was for twelve years. So but that's about the

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>only example of that. So hopefully means that Dak is

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>playing well enough where that is the best decision on

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the table and does that well, that probably happen, Probably

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>not ten years. I mean, I don't see him be

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>any player playing forty is that's not the average is

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>not going to say that's going to happen. But I

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>will say this, and I think it needs to be said.

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I think people forget what we saw this year from

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Dak from the standpoint of interceptions. That's an aberration that

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 1>has not been Dak's career, that has not been something

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he's been known for his career. So for me, I

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>look at it, I say, Okay, I'm willing to give

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>benefit of doubt that there were circumstances this year, whatever

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>they might have been, that led to him having such

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>high interception numbers that I'm not willing to make that

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>who he is at this point in his career. I

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>think it was just an aberration. It was a bad

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>year from the standpoint of turnovers. I expect that to

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>be better next year. I also expect that Dallas is

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>going to do some things to help him out, which,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 1>by the way, we've talked about that before. Every team,

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>every quarterback needs help. If this is not a league

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>where you got quarterbacks that are just so good they

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>don't need help. Even the quarterback right now that's in

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl that people in arguably say is the

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>best one in the league, Patrick Mahomes, was there a

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago and they lost the Super Bowl

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>because this offensive line did him no favors. He was

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>pressured more than anybody in the Super Bowl era of

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>the NFL in a super Bowl game, and they lost,

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and they lost badly. So everybody, every quarterback needs some help.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, particularly right now, what they need is they're

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to give him some more help on the outside.

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm I just think it's an aberration right now,

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think don't think we should extrapolate that to

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>saying that it's more than just this season. Let's see

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>where it goes next year. If it's more of a

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.520
<v Speaker 1>problem next year, now, maybe you have for something to

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>talk about, but right now it's just not that. Yeah,

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.440
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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys decided to allow them to expire. I'm gonna run

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<v Speaker 1>off the names for you, and then I'm gonna ask you, guys,

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>which of those coaches do you think it was most

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>surprising that Dallas didn't resign. You had assistant head coach

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Rob Davis, quarterback po coach Doug nust Meyer, running back

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>coach Skip Pete, offensive line coach Joe Philbin second, or

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>the backup defensive line coach Leon Lett linebacker coach George Edwards,

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Which do you think was most surprising? Philbin, to me

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was the most surprising. But it's a close tie with

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Skip Pete. But I would say Philbin because I thought

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line did a great job of adjusting all

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>year long. They were a pretty cohesive group when there

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a lot of cohesiveness there. So I thought they

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>did a really good job. Was surprised by that, and

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>come to find out that Philbin was making a lot

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of money. I mean, this contract was really high, like

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>almost three million dollars or something like that. For an

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 1>offensive well, that's pretty it's up there. But for coaches,

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean you, I mean, there's no salary cap, so

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you pay for good ones. I thought he was a

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>good one. I was kind of surprised that they were

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 1>going a different route there. Well, not to take credit

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>away from the running backs, but for a lot of

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>that to happen, you got to give credit initially to

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the old line. And I keep remembering all the times

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that the old line, as soon as there was an injury,

0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>it would just nothing would work. And that was a

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>huge thing and it was a huge problem for the Cowboys.

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.400
<v Speaker 1>So for me to transition from that to now you

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 1>see so many different guys a different positions getting hurt,

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and now you're having to shuffle guys around, make changes

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>on the spot, be prepared for what could happen. We

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:59.799
<v Speaker 1>saw it in what game was that when McGovern had

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to go in that center Tennessee. It was when Beatis

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>got hurt Tennessee. So yeah, yeah, Tennessee. And then you

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>saw those shuffling, which is not necessarily easy to do.

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So to see that they have been capable of doing

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>something like that and be successful at it, are good

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.319
<v Speaker 1>enough to just keep you going and get you through

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the game. I thought it was a very impressive job

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and something that I haven't seen another on line coach

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>do here for the Dallas Cowboys. So that was very

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>very surprising when I found out that they kind of didn't.

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of them though, I mean, I mean,

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>I think Philbin was the biggest one, but Pete, you

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>know that was that was a surprise that the running backs,

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I think all had better years than they had the

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>year before, and that includes Zeke. I thought Zeke had

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>a better year and the backups, like, I mean, those guys,

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>it's all about developing young players and Philbin did it

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously with the all O line with Beotist and Steele

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and McGovern and tarn I mean Tyler Smith, let's not

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, what he did was amazing last year. Um

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>so that those are surprising. Mica Edwards, Mica Parsons loves

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>George Edwards and to let him go that was that

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>was kind of an odd move. I mean, your right

0:36:14.000 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>hand man is Rob Davis and Mike McCarthy and then

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they let him go. I really think at the end

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>of the day, it comes down to the fact, and

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Jerry said it on the radio last year. I don't

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>think he loved the fact. There's twenty nine, twenty nine

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>coaches on this team. Twenty nine coaches A lot of coaches.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Typically you have how many I mean, I would I

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know what twenty proper position, maybe

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a couple like backup type guys. But yeah, it's a lot.

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean to have twenty nine, you know, it's just

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a lot. And I think that that's

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>where and I'm not gonna say that, I mean trimming

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the fat. It sounds bad because it sounds like they

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>weren't doing anything but I just think it was just

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>trimming it, trimming it down. Do you guys take anything

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>from the fact or this this could just be pure

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>coincidence and it was about the individual situations with each one.

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But do you guys take anything from the fact that

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>your offensive coordinator, your quarterback coach, your running back coach,

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>your offensive line coach, like that's your offense basically, that

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>all those coaches will be different. Do you take a

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>bigger is there a bigger picture story do you think

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>here or do you think it was just simply with

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>each one of them there was a different reason why

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they were no longer back. I think that's a good question,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think the answer is both. I think there's

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>probably a different, different thing for all of them, but

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 1>it's probably it all's gonna funnel up to Mic here.

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>And I think Mike's like, listen, you know, if I'm

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>going down here with the ship, I mean, this is it.

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>He's got. He's got to go to the NFC Championship Game.

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I think if he doesn't do that, I don't think

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.480
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get that contract extension that he's looking for.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And so he feels that and it's like I'm gonna. Okay,

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:00.919
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys were hand picked for me. Something

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>of them I did bring in. But we're gonna, we're

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna make some changes here, you know, And I don't

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I don't. We look at Philbin, we look

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 1>at Pete, we look at these guys that go, Man,

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 1>these are good coaches, but behind closed doors, we don't

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>know exactly how they've meshed with with the coach and

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>how they fit in and and just what the overall

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:22.479
<v Speaker 1>philosophy is. There's a thought process about running backs coach

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that that you and I could could coach running backs.

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of the thought generally, there's a generally yeah,

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>and look at look at how much they make. They're

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>I think they're the lowest paid position across the board

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. It's just and look at the franchise

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>tag for running backs. I mean it's ten point one.

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the lowest one. And that's what I was saying

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to say about Skip And nothing against Saim. I absolutely

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>love the guy and love what he's done and as

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a person, but it's that mentality that Nick just mentioned,

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>not just with let's say coaching, but even the player themselves,

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Like it's this thought that you can easily quickly replace

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>a running back with somebody younger, somebody fresher, draft a guy,

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 1>come in, plug at him and play. And it's one

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>of quote unquote easiest positions where you can just keep

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, their life spam in the NFL. It's not

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>as long as the rest of the other positions. But

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>quick question, and this might be dumb or not. I

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I've never really given thoughts to it, But

0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>where does the money come from as far as like playing,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 1>paying coaches salary? Jerry's pet? It's nothing, no, no type

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>of it's it's no different. It's no different. Honestly, it's

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>no different than what he pays any of us. Like

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>it's complete between us and a little different ry. Not

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>for you obviously, but for us amber for me. No, no,

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.919
<v Speaker 1>But I think how much money the NFL is making

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>every year? Um No, But it's it's about that's a

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>former player of the Cowboys we're seeing on TV. But no,

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's about It's about nothing more than whatever the

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>owner and GM works out with those coaches. It's not

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the league does not necessarily say there's this cat that

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't go over and so then it just becomes

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a function of your business. In your business, how much

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>do you want to pay for these particular roles that instance. Okay,

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that makes it very interesting to me because one thing

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>we do know is if Jerry wants something, he's gonna

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>get it. If he wants to have if he loved

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy, he's gonna make it work. So it's really

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see because I feel like in our eyes,

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>these guys did a really good job as coaches, but

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>who knows what happens behind this door. We're not in

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 1>those meetings, we're not there. But the end result of

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:48.799
<v Speaker 1>what at least they've shown the public eye has been

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. So it is interesting to see what's happening

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>just on the offense overall what you say and all

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>these changes, I mean part of it, and obviously none

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>of us knows, but it could be a situation where

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>it literally it's just like, you know, you like what

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you have. But at the end of the day, these

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty nine coaches haven't delivered a different result than say,

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty right, and so it's like, okay, we tried it

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the way of doing twenty nine coaches that ain't really

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 1>showing us different results. Maybe we ought to change up

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 1>our process. And I mean, we all know what the

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 1>definition of insanity is, right, do the same thing over

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and over expecting different results. So I do think that

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I do think that there is a possibility. Again, this

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:29.919
<v Speaker 1>is all speculation, but there's a possibility at some point

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that just from a business standpoint, you start saying, we've

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of extra bodies and we haven't really

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>seen a difference in those extra bodies providing more in

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the outcome, and so maybe we should trim that a

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.839
<v Speaker 1>little bit, and maybe we should be a little more

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>thoughtful about who that one person is instead of the

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>two people you will have at that position, or the

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>three guys you have here. Can you do that with

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>one or two that are that are maybe more qualified

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.200
<v Speaker 1>or better at handling as one or two? Right? Who knows?

0:41:56.440 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>But I just think from from a business standpoint, that's

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 1>how I would be thinking about it. If I running

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>a group and I'm trying to think about where I'm

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 1>going to spend my dollars, if I've been really, really

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>fat and i haven't seen a difference, at some point

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you say is this worth it? Yeah? Well, and I

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>think there may not be a salary cap. There's not

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a salary cap for coaches. There's probably something in Jerry's

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 1>mind of what the coaches should get and how much

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 1>we're paying. And if he's paying a defensive coordinator stuff.

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 1>You have a budget, as does every business, so is

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator is probably making a little bit more. So Yeah,

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like all right, he's gonna more about this budget. Yeah

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a head coach. Like we're good. And you know,

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I honestly i'd never the role that that that Rob

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Davis played for this team. I had never even heard

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of until he got here. Um, the coaches that had

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>been here previous to that, I'd never really heard of

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>them having that kind of role. Now, maybe they had

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody on their staff that did those kinds of things,

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.360
<v Speaker 1>but I never really heard of someone who was dedicated

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to that. They really didn't have a position group. They

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>were the assistant head coach. But it was more of it.

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>The way it was described to me by someone was

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>he was like your culture coach. He was more about

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>creating the right culture for your team, which in most

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>instances you would suspect that the head coach creates the

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>culture and he's the one that's engaging with guys on

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>a personal level and making sure that they feel the

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>right way about the culture of the team. It's just

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:24.799
<v Speaker 1>it was a different way of doing it. Maybe they

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>decided at some point it just wasn't you know, a

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of extra value. In college, you always hear about

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 1>these coaches they know everything. Yeah, you know, like even

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>though there may be an older guy, but they're like,

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.439
<v Speaker 1>you don't think I hear things like I know what's

0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>going on. Yeah, And it's because there are people that

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>report to them that are on the end. They're not

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in the weight room, ye, I mean, like the head

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 1>coach isn't, but these other coaches are. They're down at

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the meeting rooms. They kind of know what's going on.

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>They're talking to guys every day. Yeah, yeah, hey someone

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:54.960
<v Speaker 1>so I was dealing with this at home, or you're

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>about to have a baby or whatever. You know, like

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 1>there's just people that kind of know what's going on.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>And he was one of them. And there was a

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>lot more things probably that he did. But you know,

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that was a tough one I think for McCarthy. But

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you know that that let me know that Jerry was

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 1>probably making some of these moves here too. And don't

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, I a lot of these guys on

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>this list, in my opinion, have been some of the

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>when you just talk about good guys, some of the

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.440
<v Speaker 1>best coaches that I've seen come through this building in

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the years I've been here. I actually I think joy

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 1>spending time with Skip Pete. He was He's a good

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>man and always gave good perspective. Was willing to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us about things that, you know, and give us

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<v Speaker 1>perspective that we may not have had otherwise. So and

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate guys like to miss that at training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah absolutely. I mean, if you could just deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the cigar smoke for a few hours, you just deal

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<v Speaker 1>with you know, He's sitting there just telling stories and

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<v Speaker 1>just talking about you know, he had a plan all year.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a plan. He was like, Zeke's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the ball less, he's gonna be better. Paulard is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball only a little bit more, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be better. And I'm gonna get this

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<v Speaker 1>third guy, which he thought was Rico Daddle. It turned

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<v Speaker 1>out to beat Davis. But you know, but he had

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<v Speaker 1>a plan all along and it worked perfectly. It really

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<v Speaker 1>did work perfectly when you think about a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start that's in the Pro Bowl. Yeah, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons I asked that question about the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger picture is because you look at him, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Philbin, you look at George Edwards, and you start

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<v Speaker 1>thinking man. In each of those cases, there are probably

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<v Speaker 1>guys you could throw out there that played at a

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<v Speaker 1>higher level than you thought was they were capable of

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<v Speaker 1>this year, which you would give at least some difference

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<v Speaker 1>to the coach. Yet they didn't have their contracts renewed,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's just I think there are lots of

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<v Speaker 1>things that factor into those kinds of decisions, and for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, the Cowboys side to move on and the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are going to move on. So all right, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. We'll get into that running back

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<v Speaker 1>conversation next week, because they're not going anywhere between now

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<v Speaker 1>and then. We'll talk about Zeke and Pollard, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about dak that next week. Until then.

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<v Speaker 1>For Nick Eatman, Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eielton. This has

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