Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. This is very
Speaker 1: exciting for me. So here we are two iconic virgins
Speaker 1: from TV. I played a virgin, Donna Martin on nine
Speaker 1: O two and zero on scripted TV. You are an
Speaker 1: actual virgin, and you're on TV on your new reality
Speaker 1: show Virgins on TLC, premiering June ninth at nine pm.
Speaker 1: I am super excited.
Speaker 2: So am I?
Speaker 1: Hi, Tori Heynali Wait, I know something you don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm curious what I got?
Speaker 1: A screener? I know you haven't seen it yet. I
Speaker 1: saw it.
Speaker 2: I saw it a screener, a trailer.
Speaker 1: You mean I saw that episode?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, lucky you. I'll have to wait one more week.
Speaker 1: I mean you filmed. It's you know, I.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen what actually made the final cut?
Speaker 1: Oh right, right right?
Speaker 2: Part of the journey.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I don't know where I want to start. How
Speaker 1: did they find you? How did TLC? Like?
Speaker 2: I found them?
Speaker 1: Actually I found them.
Speaker 2: I found the casting breakdown on social media. Almost It's
Speaker 2: been quite a journey. Life is a journey. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I saw it on social media and I applied, and
Speaker 2: now here we are.
Speaker 1: What did it say? Virgins wanted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh they had an age bracket. And then if
Speaker 2: you're looking for love, which I have been doing all
Speaker 2: my life, if you know, if you're a virgin, and
Speaker 2: we want to hear your story. And I was open
Speaker 2: and authentic and vulnerable throughout the whole process. And yeah,
Speaker 2: they loved me, I guess, and I love them. It's
Speaker 2: been a wonderful experience.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what if it had been like a
Speaker 1: competition show and you didn't know, and like instead of
Speaker 1: getting a rose at the end, like you get like
Speaker 1: lube and they're like and here you go, you're gonna
Speaker 1: lose your virginity.
Speaker 2: You know, I would have been fine with a lot
Speaker 2: of alcohol. Just wasn't that a point in life where
Speaker 2: you know, I'm all about new experiences and as long
Speaker 2: as ye as long as it didn't cause any physical pain,
Speaker 2: which who knows, I would have just gone at the floor.
Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about your physical pain. I the end
Speaker 1: of the first episode had me want I.
Speaker 2: Oh, you saw the first episode. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what they filmed included in which episode yet. I'll find
Speaker 2: out in a week. But listen, whatever physical pain issues
Speaker 2: challenges I have or had or we'll see. You know,
Speaker 2: I think childbirth and pregnancy I've heard is so much
Speaker 2: more painful.
Speaker 1: I know. If you're worried about a finger up there,
Speaker 1: imagine a baby coming out of there. Not did it?
Speaker 1: You can't even put a tampon up there.
Speaker 2: No tampon success. I wasn't allowed to.
Speaker 1: Write like I want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's chat.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to your family, but do you feel like
Speaker 1: your strict upbringing has impacted you emotionally psychologically?
Speaker 2: So let me backtrack and okay, yeah, concise as possible.
Speaker 2: I was born and raised in America, yes, to immigrant
Speaker 2: folks from India. At home, it was the Indian world.
Speaker 2: At school, in the New Jersey public school system, it
Speaker 2: was the American world. My parents themselves had an arranged marriage.
Speaker 2: They were virtually strangers when they got married. My father
Speaker 2: is older, he was the breadwinner. Both my folks are
Speaker 2: retired now and my parents, my well intentioned parents, raised
Speaker 2: me as if we were in some Indian village because
Speaker 2: that's all they knew. So yeah, growing up, I was
Speaker 2: forbidden from dating, socializing, no sleepovers, no prom no college dorming,
Speaker 2: because what do college kids do on campus? Do hanky panky.
Speaker 2: That's what my dad said.
Speaker 1: On campus. It can happen anywhere.
Speaker 2: No, well, and you know I'm not so. And then
Speaker 2: coming back to the whole tampon thing, like, yeah, my mother,
Speaker 2: my wonderful mother, she never told me what tampons were, Like,
Speaker 2: I've always used pads to this day. And and even
Speaker 2: when I learned what a tampon was in school, I
Speaker 2: never ventured to experiment. I just you know, my dad
Speaker 2: always told me, my dad's the boss, the red winner.
Speaker 2: He always said if I if I did anything ever
Speaker 2: to disappoint him, he would send me back to India.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't want to go to India, Tori.
Speaker 2: I had bracist for seven years. I never even chewed gum.
Speaker 2: I thought my dad would figure find out because he
Speaker 2: to this day, I hear in my head five thousand
Speaker 2: dollar races, five thousand dollar rais, and I was like,
Speaker 2: he's gonna find it. I chewed gum and he's gonna
Speaker 2: send me that to India. So yeah, no tampon usage.
Speaker 2: A past mere hurts at the wonderful obg I M's
Speaker 2: office a couple of years ago, I thought I met
Speaker 2: the one I tried to get an iud inserted, couldn't
Speaker 2: get it done, and then the guy turned to be
Speaker 2: a jerk. I've been through helen back, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: I to your point. I can't imagine what colbirth and
Speaker 2: pregnancy feel like, really, and I don't think I want
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 1: You can get a C section and then they just
Speaker 1: slice open your stomach. But uh wait, so you said
Speaker 1: you've been to third base.
Speaker 2: Though, so you know about that. Okay, yeah, so I
Speaker 2: actually refer to myself as a semi virgin, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's an actual word. I came up with it, but
Speaker 2: then I looked it up.
Speaker 1: A semi virgin, semi virgin. Yeah, you're a virgin. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: But you said third base, So.
Speaker 1: I don't know what third I didn't know. You explained
Speaker 1: it on the show. I had no idea, And.
Speaker 2: Look, I said a lot of things on the show.
Speaker 2: I don't know what made the final cut. You've seen
Speaker 2: the first episode at least.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying you said that you were with
Speaker 1: a man, and you still explained that you went to
Speaker 1: first base kissing, touching up.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, I remember, Okay, so that third base was down,
Speaker 2: So remind me he oh of the earings he gave me.
Speaker 2: He's I still think about him, silly me, stupid snelling.
Speaker 1: Wait, no, where those errings? Girl? Who cares about him?
Speaker 1: Like they're breathful?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: And then he ghosted you right right right?
Speaker 2: Okay, can quote men?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a semi fan of men. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna semi virgin, but semi fanom men. So he touched
Speaker 1: you down below? Was there any insertion of like a
Speaker 1: finger affirmative? Okay? And that didn't hurt?
Speaker 2: No, Listen. I wanted to go all the way with him,
Speaker 2: and he wanted to to He didn't. We neither of
Speaker 2: us wanted to get me pregnant because I wasn't done
Speaker 2: any birth control. He never wanted to talk about us
Speaker 2: for the future. It was really on a daycase by case,
Speaker 2: month by on month basis. He didn't have a vasectomy
Speaker 2: before him. I told you I tried to get an
Speaker 2: aud inserted. That didn't work out. Even before that, I
Speaker 2: tried to get I tried to go on the pill,
Speaker 2: I gained weight, I broke out, and then of course
Speaker 2: that guy ghosted me too. It's always us women who
Speaker 2: pay the price, Like why can't men pay the price?
Speaker 2: Why can't every.
Speaker 1: Single man called the condom?
Speaker 2: Well, he never wanted to use that either.
Speaker 1: Wait, this boy, this boy man.
Speaker 2: He was this man who's significantly older than me. That's
Speaker 2: a whole other story, toy, Hey that rhyme?
Speaker 1: Will you tell me about this man?
Speaker 2: Oh man? Where do I begin?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like? Were you in love with him?
Speaker 2: Affirmative? I fall Tori, I fall in love with just
Speaker 2: one kiss. That is all it takes from me, And
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: That is not good. I'm worried.
Speaker 2: Why is that not good?
Speaker 1: Because you crave this intimacy so much that I'm worried
Speaker 1: you're gonna get There's gonna be red flag guys that
Speaker 1: are gonna come around looking bad.
Speaker 2: This guy was full of red flags? What did I
Speaker 2: know about them?
Speaker 1: Though he didn't want to use a condom, he could
Speaker 1: pull out?
Speaker 2: Wait say that I pull out? What does that mean?
Speaker 1: Clearly? I don't really know. I have five kids, but
Speaker 1: I suppose the method is when they are about to ejaculate,
Speaker 1: they pull out.
Speaker 2: He never went in.
Speaker 1: And no, I know, I know because yeah.
Speaker 2: He didn't want to get me pregnant. I didn't want
Speaker 2: to get pregnant.
Speaker 1: But whatever. I'm glad you didn't have sex with him.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you lose. This guy sounds like a dick.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he knew something, Tori. He has a daughter
Speaker 2: who's about twelve thirteen years younger than me. Listen, I'm
Speaker 2: of Indian descent. We believe in karma and even in
Speaker 2: American culture, golden rule and so not only means golden
Speaker 2: like oh my gosh, what goes around comes around like
Speaker 2: he Yes, true, I firmly believe in that, Okay. I
Speaker 2: And I know I'm not the only one who only
Speaker 2: woman of any cultural ethnicity who believes in what I'm
Speaker 2: about to say. But every man out there should treat
Speaker 2: a woman the way he would want his own female
Speaker 2: blood relatives treated. Yes, daughter, meek, cousin, mom, aunt, whatever.
Speaker 2: And if I ever see this man again, I'll be like,
Speaker 2: karma's your daughter. Okay. Oh and by the way, Tori,
Speaker 2: he's an Equinox member. That's how I met him. I
Speaker 2: used to work at the front desk at Equinox and
Speaker 2: Low Casting Production TLC. I apparently you know I'm an
Speaker 2: open book. I used to work at the front desk
Speaker 2: of Equinox and I was only Indian girl who worked
Speaker 2: at the front desk and Equinox and he was a
Speaker 2: frequent member. We crossed paths many times, many times, and
Speaker 2: he introduced himself to me and that's how we met.
Speaker 2: Oh so then get this, I'm bringing Equinox up because
Speaker 2: my director lisacial title is field producer. She's also an
Speaker 2: Equinox member, so she's She told me she was going
Speaker 2: to stalk him, but then she never did because they
Speaker 2: wanted him as part of the show. But then I
Speaker 2: knew he wasn't going to cooperate because he's a private
Speaker 2: citizen anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a private what citizen?
Speaker 2: Well, he's a private person like.
Speaker 1: Mike. I love your lingo. I love when you say affirmative,
Speaker 1: private citizen, self professed prude.
Speaker 2: I'm not just beauty. I'm also brains, almost very humble.
Speaker 1: No, you just you. I love your your wording for things.
Speaker 1: Would you go out with a younger man?
Speaker 2: Hey? Look, Nick Jonas is ten years younger than Prianca Chopra.
Speaker 2: You know I want what Chopra has, I really do.
Speaker 2: I've always been public about that, and he's ten years
Speaker 2: younger than her. He's a different one.
Speaker 1: Do you want cake on the beach, like do.
Speaker 2: You take on the beach? That's not his song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this song is that, that's mother.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a Nick Jonah's song. M I
Speaker 2: look at because look I'm thirty eight. I'm thirty seven
Speaker 2: on the show. Prianca Chopra is five years older than me.
Speaker 2: She's my donation. And I grew up watching her in
Speaker 2: Bollywood movies. So that's the good thing. My parents did
Speaker 2: the right thing. They watched Bollywood movies with Indian films.
Speaker 2: That's how That's what influenced me to believe how love
Speaker 2: and romance is and should be. And then also I
Speaker 2: grew up doing Indian classical dancing, so I know. And
Speaker 2: there's a saying how you dance indicates how you make love.
Speaker 2: I believe on that too.
Speaker 1: I'm really flexible.
Speaker 2: Well me too. Yeah, yeah, I grew up watching Preanca
Speaker 2: chroprom movies since the and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: she ended Jonahs are together, Like how the hell did
Speaker 2: that happen? Just he found her on social media, He's like,
Speaker 2: we should meet and then now they've been married for
Speaker 2: over five years.
Speaker 1: Literally he slender dms, he.
Speaker 2: Sent her Twitter message and yeah, and then he's like,
Speaker 2: text me, my whole team can see this, And then
Speaker 2: they started texting. Yeah, and then she and I read
Speaker 2: her book. I have her memoir at home. She at
Speaker 2: first she had her reservations about him because he's a
Speaker 2: decade younger than her. He probably wants to have kids
Speaker 2: and settle down. And she had her apprehensions. But then
Speaker 2: look at them.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: They had a big fat Indian wedding and in American
Speaker 2: wedding and they adopted it. Oh, they have a daughter
Speaker 2: through surrogacy and they've been married over five years. That's
Speaker 2: like a record in right in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: In Hollywood. Yeah, anything over seventh is like, because you like, he.
Speaker 2: Married an Indian woman. US. Indian women are of a
Speaker 2: different breed.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Tory, Okay, I believe you. I like you.
Speaker 1: I like you too, but it's not me. You have
Speaker 1: to date like this is fine? Okay, So wait, let's
Speaker 1: go back to you growing up. Okay, Like, were you
Speaker 1: allowed to go on playdates? Were you allowed to go
Speaker 1: to birthday parties?
Speaker 2: Selectively? So if as long as my parents knew whose
Speaker 2: it was at the parents, it had to be a
Speaker 2: female friend whose birthday I was going to our party,
Speaker 2: I was going to. I did have a big, fat
Speaker 2: sweet sixteen party. There were there were a few boys
Speaker 2: from school who attended, who came who I was allowed
Speaker 2: to invite. But doing the slow dancing part, I danced
Speaker 2: with my dad and my cousin's husband, you know, like
Speaker 2: that was it? Like I didn't dance with any of
Speaker 2: the guys who came to my sweet sixteen because.
Speaker 1: We allowed to allowed. Like you're an independent person, But
Speaker 1: did you ever hug a boy in school?
Speaker 2: Like I gave friendly hugs to the boys who came
Speaker 2: to Fiste. I did, and my dad was there, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure he saw it. He'd make a scene or
Speaker 2: anything of it. It was just a quick friendly hug, Toria.
Speaker 2: I was. If I did anything to disobey my parents,
Speaker 2: my father told me he would send me back to India.
Speaker 1: And I mean that's called it. No, I know it now, right,
Speaker 1: But you were terrified at the time.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I.
Speaker 1: Had a pretty strict upbringing, and you know what would
Speaker 1: happen because of that upbringing when I would go to
Speaker 1: parties and when I would like be free, I literally
Speaker 1: wouldn't be really a little disruptive and a little rebellious.
Speaker 1: Did you ever do that.
Speaker 2: Because of it, I got intoxicated at twenty nine at
Speaker 2: a New Year's Eve party. I landed in the hospital
Speaker 2: in the er.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that, but woo, I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking twenty nine at twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Twenty nine, Like before you went to college, did you
Speaker 1: at high school parties? Did you ever just like like, woo, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying drinking, Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to.
Speaker 1: They weren't there, but they would find out, you thought. Wow.
Speaker 2: I didn't start drinking till I was twenty one and
Speaker 2: a half, and then I was hooked. Worry. You know
Speaker 2: what my favorite drink is. Are you ready for this?
Speaker 2: Sex on the beach? I know the irony? Oh and
Speaker 2: another irony. India dating was forbidden. You already know that.
Speaker 2: We never talked about the s words sex. It was taboo,
Speaker 2: Like I really thought that's something that people only do,
Speaker 2: are only able to do after marriage. That's how I
Speaker 2: was raised. So we never even talked about it. It
Speaker 2: was a taboo subject. But then get this, India created
Speaker 2: the Kamasutra. Great fast forward to now, India is the
Speaker 2: world's most populous country. How did it get that way?
Speaker 2: Because people there are doing hanky panky.
Speaker 1: Sorry you don't like sex. He's like calling it making love.
Speaker 1: But I understand.
Speaker 2: And you know what else I wasn't allowed to do.
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed to watch American TV shows. I wasn't
Speaker 2: even allowed to watch your show. I only watched Full
Speaker 2: House and that's how I learned English and then oh yeah,
Speaker 2: really esl England and Full House. And even when Uncle Jesse,
Speaker 2: for instance, I was kissing a girl, I had to
Speaker 2: choose the channel. My dad would come into the living
Speaker 2: room and he's like, what are you watching? Jesus? This
Speaker 2: is dirty?
Speaker 1: But on some level, I know you're saying that's all
Speaker 1: they knew. But they knew they were raising you in America,
Speaker 1: I know, right, so they had to see that.
Speaker 2: So get this.
Speaker 1: Do you talk to them now about it? Or do
Speaker 1: they feel any remorse or bad that?
Speaker 2: Or they are super duper disappointed that I have not
Speaker 2: married some Indian guy and popped grandkids for them? Yes,
Speaker 2: they're very.
Speaker 1: Did you say, hello, this is their fault?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? I've had many I are.
Speaker 1: Still disappointed, And have you had the conversation or I
Speaker 1: don't know how you talk to your parents but saying
Speaker 1: that you know, perhaps the way you raised me it
Speaker 1: was in America, Like maybe it was a little too
Speaker 1: strict and maybe that is.
Speaker 2: The day of college graduation. I was driving home from
Speaker 2: the ceremony and my dad. I was driving and my
Speaker 2: dad was in the passenger seat, my mom and I
Speaker 2: was younger sister who's LGBTT good for her? Love is love?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: My dad was like, we're going to get you married
Speaker 2: off now. And so I had just graduated with a
Speaker 2: fine degree from Rutgers University in New Jersey. I had
Speaker 2: my job secured on Wall Street, Manhattan, the Big Apple,
Speaker 2: and my dad's we're gonna getting married now, and my
Speaker 2: jaw dropped. I turned to him. I was still driving,
Speaker 2: and I was like, you've never let me have a boyfriend,
Speaker 2: and now you want me to get married, like to who?
Speaker 2: And he's like, I'll find you somebody. So that's been
Speaker 2: a decade plus battle and they've tried to set me up,
Speaker 2: but no luck. I am two. There's three things going
Speaker 2: on here, Tori. I'm too tall for Indian guys, and
Speaker 2: we're talking how I'm five eight without heels and that's
Speaker 2: too tall for most Indian men ninety nine per seven
Speaker 2: that's number one. Number two, and look, I've only been
Speaker 2: kissed by six men? Was the sixth one? The three
Speaker 2: were back in New York. There were all Indian guys.
Speaker 2: This was in my twenties. What was I thinking?
Speaker 1: What and how old were you when you got your
Speaker 1: first kiss?
Speaker 2: Thirty six?
Speaker 1: Twenty six?
Speaker 2: They were all Indian guys, back and back in New York.
Speaker 2: Now I'm looking back and thinking, what was I thinking?
Speaker 2: An Indian guy could be my long lost brother?
Speaker 1: Are like you?
Speaker 2: So then that's number two and then number three are
Speaker 2: On a more serious note, I'm very ambitious. I'm a workaholic.
Speaker 2: I have a finance degree, I went to business school.
Speaker 2: I'm too ambitious for an Indian guy. They're intimidated by
Speaker 2: my work ethic.
Speaker 1: Hence Frianka Chopra.
Speaker 2: Married Nick Jonas because some Indian guy would be intimidated
Speaker 2: by her success.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you're going to marry American guy.
Speaker 1: I just feel it.
Speaker 2: We'll see at this point in life, especially with what
Speaker 2: I went through with. Look, actually previously married. He has
Speaker 2: two drum kids in the twenties. Look, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 2: Marriages do fall apart, right, they can. It's unfortunate even
Speaker 2: in the Indian culture. It's but it's happened, right, It's yeah,
Speaker 2: of course what it is like at this point in life,
Speaker 2: I'm actually afraid to get married because I don't want
Speaker 2: to ever get divorced. That's why I'm married.
Speaker 1: To my career. I'm like, you have so many fears.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought I was bad. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I just want to hold you.
Speaker 2: Virtual virtual.
Speaker 1: Okay. Wow. So your parents still to this day have
Speaker 1: not said, you know what we wish we had compromised
Speaker 1: and done things a little bit different. Raising you here
Speaker 1: in America.
Speaker 2: My dad, like most men, Indian or non Indian, super proud.
Speaker 1: Not you won't.
Speaker 2: You won't admit any fault, did.
Speaker 1: Your What about your mom? Though?
Speaker 2: My mom all my life has been powerless. She's always
Speaker 2: been there, but she's never had any power or any voice.
Speaker 2: And actually, fast forward to today, Torri, my mom was
Speaker 2: battling Alzheimer's.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, she's there.
Speaker 2: She recognizes me, but her health is rapidly declining. She
Speaker 2: really can't say anything anymore. But it's sad. Anyway, health
Speaker 2: is wealth. I firmly believe in the health as well.
Speaker 2: Nothing else matters. And happiness. Yeah, anyway, that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's still just this was over this past weekend. I
Speaker 2: was there here visiting us here in America right now,
Speaker 2: I was watching a Netflix co Wait, they moved back
Speaker 2: to Indiana. Yeah, so they're retired. They split their time
Speaker 2: now between India and America. Right now, they're in America
Speaker 2: for my mom's medical treatment. And this it was just
Speaker 2: a few days ago. I was visiting them and we
Speaker 2: were watching this Netflix special of an Iranian American comedian
Speaker 2: stand up comedy. For the most part, he was family friendly,
Speaker 2: but there were some sexual innuendos, and my dad's like,
Speaker 2: this is filthy, this is dirty. Change the channel. What
Speaker 2: is he doing? And this was like two or three
Speaker 2: days ago. He still like that, and then he wonders
Speaker 2: why he doesn't have grandkids.
Speaker 1: What do they think about you doing this show?
Speaker 2: Oh, they know about this show because this has been
Speaker 2: a long journey, right, and casting had interviewed with them.
Speaker 2: They were in India at the time, Okay, and then
Speaker 2: when filming finally began, they were still in India and
Speaker 2: my mom's health really started to decline. So then they
Speaker 2: opted out of decline of participating. Right, it's funny were
Speaker 2: how this conversation right now, Tori was right, while we're
Speaker 2: It was after the Netflix special that we were watching
Speaker 2: that guy, that comedian, and my dad asked me, what's
Speaker 2: going on with you? Whatever happened to that program? In
Speaker 2: Indian culture they call a show like a program? Yeah, well, look,
Speaker 2: I know what I filmed, and I didn't let my
Speaker 2: up strict upbringing stop me from participating in the filming experience, right.
Speaker 2: And I'm really grateful to the production and to the
Speaker 2: network for being so respectful, generous and non judgment until
Speaker 2: about my prudish ways and whatnot. But the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is a lot of the things I did,
Speaker 2: my dad would find h jaw dropping and disappointing, Like
Speaker 2: he was gasping at the male comedian talking making sexual references.
Speaker 2: And this was just on stage to a live audience, right,
Speaker 2: making jokes. So my I just all I told my
Speaker 2: dad this was just a few days ago. I'm like,
Speaker 2: we will filming rapped, they're editing, and I don't know
Speaker 2: when it's gonna air. That's what I told my dad
Speaker 2: over the weekend. I don't want him to see the show.
Speaker 1: This is your dad read things online. I mean, your
Speaker 1: name is going to be everywhere by the way, I'll.
Speaker 2: Deal with it.
Speaker 1: Then, Okay, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: We'll I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
Speaker 1: Sounds good to me. Let me know how that goes.
Speaker 1: I'll try it back in.
Speaker 2: Wow, here's my philosophy in life, Tori. At this point,
Speaker 2: it's better to seek forgiveness than to seek permission. If
Speaker 2: I told my dad before filming began.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't like that term. My ex husband said
Speaker 1: it to me all the time about shit and not
Speaker 1: very triggering. So but I don't know, I understand in
Speaker 1: your case, yes, I agree with that. Oh yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: I am worried though, Like I don't even know if
Speaker 1: this is a thing. But like our bodies, I feel
Speaker 1: like are made, you know, we were put on this earth.
Speaker 1: We have a certain we have a hole and man
Speaker 1: has a famal like it's supposed to work, supposed to
Speaker 1: fit together in a way to pro create and create children.
Speaker 1: I've heard like, could something have happened that you went
Speaker 1: too long? This is this is where my like I
Speaker 1: watched too many horror films and like something sealed over,
Speaker 1: like it's closed, like it's the skin just sealed.
Speaker 2: Well, nothing's ever been inserted. Right, Like most of you know,
Speaker 2: most women worried they were tampon starting in their teenage years.
Speaker 2: I never did that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to. My mom got me the belt.
Speaker 1: Do you even know what that is? No, it's it's archaic.
Speaker 1: Her mom got it for her, Her mom had it.
Speaker 1: It's a pad and they snap it to a belt
Speaker 1: you wear. That went over big with my friends.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Please don't. It's it's like worse than a pad. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to wear tampons ever.
Speaker 2: Here's here's what I'm thinking. Like, I learned the term
Speaker 2: baginismus through this filming experience. I didn't know what that
Speaker 2: was at the Badgie Miss, what's that like?
Speaker 1: Vaginal Christmas?
Speaker 2: That's what my friend Laura said, is a Christmas in
Speaker 2: your virgina?
Speaker 1: Who sounds like a party?
Speaker 2: It's a metic It's a serious.
Speaker 1: Messimust only comes one time of year. Want me to
Speaker 1: keep going.
Speaker 2: It's a real medical condition apparently, And it's when the
Speaker 2: vaginal muscles tighten and they spasm when and pain happens
Speaker 2: when something is inserted. And so I didn't even know
Speaker 2: about the term until the filming filming journey began and
Speaker 2: my showrunner Candace was like, do you have faginismus? I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's that? So I was. I was googling it while
Speaker 2: I was zooming with her, and I'm like, yeah, except
Speaker 2: no doctor's ever told me I vaginousness. But like I
Speaker 2: this was last summer. So do you have affirmative?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start saying affirmative. It's so sexy. I like it,
Speaker 1: like smart sexy.
Speaker 2: Affirmative is fans is a fancy word for yes, and
Speaker 2: negative is a fancy way of saying no.
Speaker 1: Wow, but not positive, just just affirmative. Yeah, uh okay,
Speaker 1: So you do have that? That is confirmed not but
Speaker 1: the gynecologists didn't find it. Your producer found it.
Speaker 2: That's where I first learned the term yes from my shouldrunner.
Speaker 2: About a couple of weeks later, I went to see
Speaker 2: my gynecologist and I'm like, do I have this? She's
Speaker 2: like yeah. I'm like, well, you never told me I
Speaker 2: have it. Well, she's like, well you never brought up
Speaker 2: that there's a man in your life, you know, because
Speaker 2: they know, like I've never had intercourse.
Speaker 1: Right, and so yeah, is there a cure for it
Speaker 1: is there.
Speaker 2: Treatment, that's what the filming journey was.
Speaker 1: Okay, we can't say okay, that's going to be part
Speaker 1: of the journey. Okay, Oh oh my god. Like what
Speaker 1: if the treatment is sorry, you don't like sex making love?
Speaker 2: What if that?
Speaker 1: I mean a man.
Speaker 2: I want a man who's going to be not ghost
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: That's what. You're beautiful, you're smart, you're funny. No, this
Speaker 1: isn't about you. That was him like that. This has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with you. It's in your head that
Speaker 1: it's all you because you're like, oh, they're not gonna
Speaker 1: like me because of this. This, this is not you.
Speaker 2: There's two parts to this predicament. Well, one part of
Speaker 2: the whole vaginisms my emotional barriers. Okay, fine, that's something
Speaker 2: I have more control over, right, But it's a journey.
Speaker 2: It takes time. Right. The second aspect of this predicament
Speaker 2: is men. And having lived only in la and New York. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in my late thirties. Now I've only encountered
Speaker 2: men who are anti committal and anti monogamous. It's the
Speaker 2: story of my life. Whether he's Indian or non Indian.
Speaker 1: Even babe, you're drawing that in. That is what you're
Speaker 1: drawing in. What can I GI's you coincidence? You're getting
Speaker 1: these types over and over. I'm speaking to you, yet
Speaker 1: I'm seeking to myself.
Speaker 2: And I agree. I've heard of that there too, that
Speaker 2: I'm the common den.
Speaker 1: My friend said, my picker is off. Your pickers off.
Speaker 1: It's what you're you're picking these people your picker. You
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm attacking.
Speaker 1: Right, it's white you're attracting. It's the energy you're attracting.
Speaker 1: I have a friend that says Tory could be in
Speaker 1: a room with a thousand men and she will always
Speaker 1: pick the one that's gonna be noncommittal. Not always, it's
Speaker 1: like she just draws them right in.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, toy, Why does society always
Speaker 2: blame the.
Speaker 1: Woman who's blaming the woman?
Speaker 2: Oh you just said your friend said this about you,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well there if you just said it too, right,
Speaker 2: it's always the one's fault. Why can't a man change?
Speaker 2: Why can't men be monogamous and committal? He has a daughter, like.
Speaker 1: You know, men the emotionally, I just think it's it's
Speaker 1: it's very difficult. I think it's hard for me because
Speaker 1: I grew up watching, you know, all the fairy tale
Speaker 1: romances and the cartoons and the movies, and so I
Speaker 1: really believed those are the boys, the men that we get.
Speaker 1: And then when it didn't happen, I was just like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: men cheat, men lie, men.
Speaker 2: Some men. Some men will say that women lie because
Speaker 2: we were makeup. Look, I'm the same as you. I
Speaker 2: grew up watching those romantic Bollywood movies. I thought that's
Speaker 2: how life is.
Speaker 1: Right, and then you get here and you're like, well, reality.
Speaker 2: Is far different from what you see on the real.
Speaker 1: I know, and it's not fair because right our counterpart,
Speaker 1: our partner, you know, we're great, and then we need
Speaker 1: to find are are you on a dating app at all?
Speaker 2: I used to be not anymore.
Speaker 1: Did you ever go on dates from that dating app?
Speaker 2: Handful? They were all negative experiences.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's what I've heard. Yeah, but how do you
Speaker 1: meet people? That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I got hit on a lot at Equinox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I work.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't date as per the exact definition of dating.
Speaker 2: But if I were to serendipitously meet a man with
Speaker 2: whom I have a natural chemistry and ctibility, with and
Speaker 2: if he then invites me out for a coffee, drink, whatever,
Speaker 2: then I explore that further. That's how I date. And
Speaker 2: I believe in friends. I believe in friendship as the
Speaker 2: foundation of a romantic relationship, but I do not believe
Speaker 2: in friends with benefits.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Oh. And then also what I learned through life is
Speaker 2: that I am a demisexual, which falls on the spectrum
Speaker 2: of asexuality. I don't crave sex. I crave companionship and love.
Speaker 2: And the definition of a demisexual is that someone like
Speaker 2: me needs a very strong intellectual and emotional connection first
Speaker 2: with a man before I can let anything physical happen.
Speaker 2: And the problem, a challenge I face in society is
Speaker 2: that ninety nine percent of men want to go straight
Speaker 2: to the physical. They don't want to take the time
Speaker 2: to get to know me.
Speaker 1: And there's got to be ones that think on a
Speaker 1: higher plane, that think they they gotta exist. I think
Speaker 1: I'm a demni sexual. I think so, yeah, I really like,
Speaker 1: I'm all about the brain and the creative, like, like,
Speaker 1: if I connect with someone, yeah, I much rather that
Speaker 1: than like that, like, don't send me a dick pic.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you like And then I've also heard
Speaker 2: from other people through life that what the sex wears off.
Speaker 2: I'd even heard from men sexist and everything. But then
Speaker 2: these men also goes to me when they when I because.
Speaker 1: That's interesting to me that men don't want to go
Speaker 1: further once you tell them you're a virgin, because you
Speaker 1: would think that a man would be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I could be her first. This is gonna be great.
Speaker 2: That's what it was. But then he also didn't want
Speaker 2: to commit and we never went all the way.
Speaker 1: I hate that guy. I'm surprised that they're like turned
Speaker 1: almost turned off when you say you're a virgin.
Speaker 2: Why no, I look, I went on three dates for
Speaker 2: the show, right, I don't know what those guys said
Speaker 2: said about me and what they thought of me. I'll
Speaker 2: find out when I watched the show.
Speaker 1: I could tell you. No, I'm just kidding. I didn't
Speaker 1: like that guy on episode one that you want to.
Speaker 2: Date with first date, the pink blazer guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't like him.
Speaker 2: I was a joker.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't find I'm attractive.
Speaker 2: Sorry agreed.
Speaker 1: Affirmative. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like that's
Speaker 1: every man's fantasy to be a guy girls first.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, but here's my I want my one and only. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's the that's the that's the contradiction.
Speaker 1: Of your one and only, like you want one and done. No, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: That's the Indian side of me talking Tori. You won't.
Speaker 1: We can't get that inside out of your brain.
Speaker 2: I Tori, seriously, I have never been the kind.
Speaker 1: To You're very controlling. Thank you for yourself, not for
Speaker 1: others like you are very like I've.
Speaker 2: Said this on the show, like the blessing. The combination
Speaker 2: of being Indian American is both a blessing and a
Speaker 2: curse because I know both cultures and me being the
Speaker 2: way I am when it comes to my personal life,
Speaker 2: that's my Indian values screaming at me. It really is.
Speaker 2: Those strong South Asian values are ingrained in my soul
Speaker 2: and I can't help it. This is how I am.
Speaker 2: Like look career wise, I'm all American, right, I'm very ambitious,
Speaker 2: business school of all Street. This is who I take
Speaker 2: it or leave it. I can't help it.
Speaker 1: I just don't like I'm worried that if you have
Speaker 1: sex with one person, like I don't want you to
Speaker 1: ever wonder like what would it be like with somebody else,
Speaker 1: or or what if it's not great sex? And you're like,
Speaker 1: but I had sex with this one, so I have
Speaker 1: to marry him, and this is it for me, like
Speaker 1: both of me.
Speaker 2: So we already at him.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about him. But let me wait. I
Speaker 1: have a question, are you still, like, technically, would you
Speaker 1: still be a virgin if you had anal sex?
Speaker 2: I don't have the qualifications to answer that question.
Speaker 1: You just got two business for me. You don't have
Speaker 1: the qualifications? What what do I know? I heard a
Speaker 1: rumor that, like certain religions believe they won't have sex
Speaker 1: before marriage, but they think like having anal is like, well,
Speaker 1: I lose my virginity, so it's different. Have you heard this.
Speaker 2: I heard a little bit kind of yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: You don't have the qualifications. Yeah you do, you have
Speaker 1: a butt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like, I'm also a prude, So like, who
Speaker 2: am I to answer what you asked? Oh?
Speaker 1: You should you're self professed prude. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: a prude.
Speaker 2: What makes you think I am not a prude?
Speaker 1: I think you use that to control the narrative of
Speaker 1: what why you do certain things? So you say I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just a prude because then it gets
Speaker 1: you off the hook.
Speaker 2: I'm a proud prude.
Speaker 1: I'm a proud prude. Oh, I can't wait till you're
Speaker 1: reformed prude.
Speaker 2: What does that means?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure. I spend one night
Speaker 1: out in the town with me. I'll get you to
Speaker 1: doing things.
Speaker 2: Sister, my favorite drink is sex WEEPI why didn't you
Speaker 2: choose that?
Speaker 1: You did it on purpose?
Speaker 2: You know. My first drink ever, I was twenty one
Speaker 2: and a half. It was actually a screwdriver that's Orange
Speaker 2: Co vodka. And then what is happening right? No? And
Speaker 2: then I in my twenties, I was addicted to cocktails.
Speaker 2: That was all I would have and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: love And then my friends, my femal friends, you know,
Speaker 2: we used to go out and my parents, even in
Speaker 2: my twenties, my parents knew who I was going out with.
Speaker 2: My mom would bug me like when you come home,
Speaker 2: you know, like and.
Speaker 1: Even when you get intoxicated, you don't feel like a
Speaker 1: little bit like ooh, letting lose? Like do you have
Speaker 1: an alter ego? Sonali? I do. Her name's Terry. She
Speaker 1: comes out after about three drinks. She's so fun and
Speaker 1: she does thinks I would never do for my bid
Speaker 1: would crude? Terry goes, Wow, she just likes the party.
Speaker 2: I like parties too. I'm a social extrovert.
Speaker 1: No, not like not like I don't like parties, but
Speaker 1: like she's like, whoo, like it's the same life for
Speaker 1: the party.
Speaker 2: Like she's like, ah, I do become a different person
Speaker 2: after a few cocktails?
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yes, like how like like I never I've never.
Speaker 2: Hooked up with a guy.
Speaker 1: I done that. Like do you become like more like loud,
Speaker 1: fun like like more extroverted? You do?
Speaker 2: Affirmative?
Speaker 1: Yes, more like not prudish. I don't even think prude
Speaker 1: is has to be sexual. Do you curse when I'm
Speaker 1: really mad?
Speaker 2: Yes? Usually an everyday conversation. Now, because that's another thing
Speaker 2: my dad planted in my head. He would always use
Speaker 2: the F word left and right, so you couldn't you know,
Speaker 2: So then my sister and I, you know, kids, we
Speaker 2: pick up what our parents do and say right in
Speaker 2: any culture. So then my sister and I would start
Speaker 2: using the F word, and he reprimanded us. You said,
Speaker 2: Indian girls don't use bad words. And then in my head.
Speaker 2: I was thinking girls, girls can't do that, but then
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 1: So sexualized. It's it's so double standard, it's so messed up.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite curse word?
Speaker 2: Mh, I've never thought about that before. I have to
Speaker 2: think about it. I'm not mad right now. I no
Speaker 2: curse words come to mind or anything.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: I had a job once where I had a bitch boss.
Speaker 2: I did, and I started using the word the term
Speaker 2: bitch boss left and right.
Speaker 1: I just I like that bitch boss. Okay, I won't
Speaker 1: do this to you anymore.
Speaker 2: I'm also not supposed to use profanity. But anyway, you
Speaker 2: asked me a question, so.
Speaker 1: Oh my, the list of things you're not supposed to do.
Speaker 2: No comments.
Speaker 1: But you're a workaholic, you're allowed. You're not supposed to
Speaker 1: work either.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to plopped a million kids by now, right.
Speaker 1: I just want to talk to your dad. I just
Speaker 1: want to talk to your.
Speaker 2: Good luck.
Speaker 1: Just really, I'm very charming.
Speaker 2: Ago. What's that his birthday was two days ago? Give
Speaker 2: them a hug. That's me asked about the show because
Speaker 2: we were talking and I kind of dis dodged the bullet.
Speaker 1: If somebody is going to tell him I saw your God,
Speaker 1: I just got so fucking passionate, and I.
Speaker 2: Just sort it already happened.
Speaker 1: Someone is going to I'm just telling you right now,
Speaker 1: your name is going to be everywhere because this show,
Speaker 1: by the way, is so good, it's going to make you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so thrilled to hear that toy happened. What
Speaker 2: you're saying, So.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I can't believe no one's done this
Speaker 1: sooner and next. I want them to do a competition
Speaker 1: version of it, and I want to host it because
Speaker 1: I'm the world's most famous virgin on TV.
Speaker 2: You know, Torri had already actually did happen. Listen to this,
Speaker 2: so what listen? Hear me out. Funny story, but it's true.
Speaker 2: When I was twenty nine, my dad told all my
Speaker 2: extended family, because I come from a big, fat Indian
Speaker 2: family that most of them are in New Jersey or
Speaker 2: in India. My dad told all my extended family that
Speaker 2: I was already married. I had a small out of
Speaker 2: private ceremony and we're I'm settled down. This was I
Speaker 2: was twenty nine. I'm like, okay, fine, Tory. I was
Speaker 2: thirty three when I went on The Doctor Phil Show.
Speaker 2: That was the first time I publicly revealed my vico
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 1: Doctor phil Show.
Speaker 2: Because he was I saw something else, Doctor Phil, I say,
Speaker 2: December twenty twenty, Okay, we're all stuck at home. I
Speaker 2: had nothing else to do, right. I was scrolling social
Speaker 2: media and I saw posting on Instagram. The Doctor Philip
Speaker 2: Show was looking to help millennials with their love life.
Speaker 2: So I sent in my spiel and they loved me.
Speaker 1: They had me.
Speaker 2: So then that was December twenty twenty, and I didn't
Speaker 2: tell my folks. They were stuck in India during the
Speaker 2: lockdown during the pandemic. March twenty twenty two, my final
Speaker 2: grandparent passed away. There's a I didn't go to the funeral.
Speaker 2: I cried here America was very close to her. My
Speaker 2: aunt in New Jersey, my dad's older sister. She went
Speaker 2: to India for the funeral because it was their mom
Speaker 2: who passed away. My aunt saw my doctor Phil Clip.
Speaker 1: Go and told you and told your family, yes, because.
Speaker 2: She was My dad told me this a few days
Speaker 2: after the funeral. We were video chatting and he was like,
Speaker 2: you know, your aunt she told me that she found
Speaker 2: your doctor Phil Clip you're talking about virginity at age
Speaker 2: thirty three? Why did you go on on online and
Speaker 2: talk about that? Because I told everybody at twenty nine
Speaker 2: you were married, and you started yelling at me. I
Speaker 2: hung up, that's what do you I can't. I still
Speaker 2: do to this day. I still don't know what he
Speaker 2: told her because obviously he lied, right, he was ashamed
Speaker 2: of the truth. So if he was ashamed at twenty nine,
Speaker 2: then I wasn't married at you know, how do you
Speaker 2: think he feels now?
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I'm just I'm just pre warning you
Speaker 1: that somebody, because they're going to see you everywhere, is
Speaker 1: going to be like.
Speaker 2: Ps, she's thirty seven and still not married.
Speaker 1: Always on a reality show about virgins.
Speaker 2: Oh well, across that bridge when I get.
Speaker 1: There, Oh my gosh, Like this is wild.
Speaker 2: Look the East and the West. It's different values and
Speaker 2: standards and ways of thinking. But neither is right nor wrong.
Speaker 2: They're just different.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: It can change though. We can always evolve. We don't
Speaker 1: have to be stuck in the past.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: You know, that's like US American women saying, you know, well,
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, like you know, women were home
Speaker 1: cooking and men went to work and that's all we
Speaker 1: did was raise children and you know, cook and service
Speaker 1: drink when he got home.
Speaker 2: Show you something. This is the only thing I cook smooth.
Speaker 2: When I was thirteen, my dad tried teaching me how
Speaker 2: to cook Indian food. I was like, why I have
Speaker 2: you guys than my mom and my dad, And he's like,
Speaker 2: you have to learn how to cook so you can
Speaker 2: cook your Indian husband. I'm like, screw that, But I
Speaker 2: didn't say screw that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, by the way, American men like like food too,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to cook. But again, like what
Speaker 1: if I had been Like what if that existed? Like
Speaker 1: that's the way it is, Like that doesn't exist. We've evolved,
Speaker 1: We've changed. Like you know, I still have friends that
Speaker 1: have married and they're stay at home moms and that's
Speaker 1: the life they I'm driven, I'm a workaholic. I would
Speaker 1: never do that. But like he needs their own right,
Speaker 1: So why in India does it does it all still
Speaker 1: have to apply? Why haven't they evolved?
Speaker 2: They have evolved. It's the world's most populoust country. How
Speaker 2: did it get to be that way?
Speaker 1: Because the men are still working and have their women
Speaker 1: in home popping out kids. But it's not.
Speaker 2: It's complicated.
Speaker 1: It is complicated. It's just I don't know.
Speaker 2: All I know for sure is that I don't have
Speaker 2: a biological clock. I have a beautiful Bulova watch stuff.
Speaker 2: I do like that watch, and I bought myself financially independent.
Speaker 1: Oh here's what I need you to do. What I
Speaker 1: need you to look into freezing your eggs? Oh boy, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are my parting words to you. I need I
Speaker 1: need you to do that because no one told us this,
Speaker 1: like that there's a time clock, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what if you later in life meet the person and
Speaker 1: you're like, gosh, I wish I had had kids. And
Speaker 1: I feel like every woman should do it because you
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen, even young women like.
Speaker 2: No, Tori, that'll be another show. I'll be filmed around
Speaker 2: town trying to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Can I produce sure? Okay? Okay? Oh oh oh, toy.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to ask you something like
Speaker 2: your character.
Speaker 1: Yes, Donna.
Speaker 2: Look, I wasn't allowed to watch the show. Full House
Speaker 2: was an extreme exception, right, but anyway, I read about it.
Speaker 2: When I knew it, we were going to meet like this,
Speaker 2: your character is Catholic. Yes, the fourth guy I ever
Speaker 2: let kiss me, he was Catholic, okay, and all we
Speaker 2: did was kiss. This was after that he knew about
Speaker 2: the V card, and so I had.
Speaker 1: Did you call it a V card?
Speaker 2: Well, I was on Tammer and Hall show and she
Speaker 2: also called it the V card.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So then he knew that my body count was zero.
Speaker 2: This was before mister T. I asked him what his
Speaker 2: body count was he said ten or twelve. In my head,
Speaker 2: I was thinking, you don't even remember, like, and he
Speaker 2: was Catholic and so and you know, and I brought
Speaker 2: about the seven sins. I'm like, he's a hypocrite, like
Speaker 2: ten or twelve he didn't practice. What kind of Catholic
Speaker 2: is he?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Also then he was like, oh, I want two or
Speaker 2: three kids, And I'm like, what do I look like
Speaker 2: a machine?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, that's just a conversation, like we all want
Speaker 1: what we want. Like I grew up in a family
Speaker 1: there were two kids, so I always thought like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want two kids, doesn't mean I'm like no, no, no, Yes,
Speaker 1: my character was Catholic. And that was a big reason
Speaker 1: I think she held onto her virginity. But also I
Speaker 1: got to say, like I loved that character for that reason,
Speaker 1: because I can't tell you over the decades how many
Speaker 1: people people still say it that women and men were
Speaker 1: like you know, girls and boys were like you showed
Speaker 1: that it was okay, you could still be normal, Like
Speaker 1: you could be popular, you could be cool, you could
Speaker 1: you know, because people think like, oh, the virgin, like
Speaker 1: no one wanted to.
Speaker 2: Here's how I look at it. Everybody is a virgin
Speaker 2: until some point in their lives. Yes, a culture or
Speaker 2: ethnicity or religion, so like I'm not a.
Speaker 1: Freek oh my gosh. Numbers were really huge for me.
Speaker 1: I in American terms, I think I lost my virginity
Speaker 1: kind of late. Like all my friends already had like
Speaker 1: are you talking on the show or like no, no, no
Speaker 1: in real life.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: In the show, it was season eight, so I was
Speaker 1: in my twenties. Yeah, but I ended up marrying him,
Speaker 1: so that was fine in the show. Oh okay, and
Speaker 1: David and Donna. It's the twenty fifth wedding anniversary this year.
Speaker 1: Oh yay, still going strong on TV. Everything lives and
Speaker 1: keeps going and is great on TV. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember a number thing was really important to me, Like
Speaker 1: I cried when I lost my virginity in real life,
Speaker 1: and my friends were like, and it was my first boyfriend,
Speaker 1: like we were in love. He was the nicest guy,
Speaker 1: probably the last nice guy I ever dated. And it's
Speaker 1: not sure I married one but my first husband. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I came home and cried. I was devastated because it
Speaker 1: was such like a big change. It was such like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what did I do? Something's gone. I
Speaker 1: felt like I was you know, I wasn't happy, and
Speaker 1: I just remember being home in bed and crying for
Speaker 1: like hours. And then like numbers were always a big
Speaker 1: thing to me. I don't even know why what you like,
Speaker 1: I have not slept with that many men. I haven't,
Speaker 1: but I got to say when I went off one hand,
Speaker 1: that's probably a lot for you. But yeah, when I
Speaker 1: went to number six, I cried again.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know why we put ourselves through that.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: Why are we crying? And when it comes to love
Speaker 2: and dading, like anything.
Speaker 1: You you want to be one and done? What do
Speaker 1: you mean?
Speaker 2: And even with his men anymore? He pursued me and
Speaker 2: then he dumped it when I told him I love you.
Speaker 2: Like what am I supposed to have done? Tell him
Speaker 2: I hate you and tell him to rotten hell? Like,
Speaker 2: what is wrong with love? I think?
Speaker 1: Wait, you told him you loved him first? Yeah, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you have to play games with men.
Speaker 2: I hate I hate games. Well, well I know that
Speaker 2: that's what everybody does. But like, I'm very straightforward.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of rules. We got issues, strict standards.
Speaker 2: Sonali does have strict standards. No.
Speaker 1: I like that you stand up for your self. I
Speaker 1: like your confidence. It's beautiful. Actually, it's refreshing. I really
Speaker 1: love this conversation. I didn't even know what to expect
Speaker 1: coming in here today, and I genuinely like episode one
Speaker 1: is great.
Speaker 2: But wait we t minus seven days.
Speaker 1: It is great, but it's fairy like seeing you and
Speaker 1: talking you day. There's so much, so many facets about you.
Speaker 1: I am literally obsessed with you. Thank you, and I'd
Speaker 1: love to meet you one day.
Speaker 2: I'm on board. Let's make it hand and.
Speaker 1: I'm going to produce a show where you freeze your eggs.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm really good with puns and jargons, slogans. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come up with something. Okay, we got this.
Speaker 2: I can shift in there too, Okay, good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're a brainiacc yeah, we're brainiacs.
Speaker 2: Beauty and brains.
Speaker 1: Woo and bods. You're like, no to proud.
Speaker 2: I'm a smoothy addict that this is. Yeah, listen, how
Speaker 2: you dance indicates how you make love. And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wants a dancer. I always a dancer, and we need
Speaker 2: a certain body type to dance.
Speaker 1: You know what. That maybe with women with men, though
Speaker 1: men are always like, I can't dance, I can't dance.
Speaker 1: But I've had ones that were good in bed.
Speaker 2: You know who can dance? But who's that? Who's an
Speaker 2: actor from the Sex and the City movie, the first one, Jill,
Speaker 2: the French guy. His character name was Dante. He wasn't
Speaker 2: dancing with the stars. He's my celebrity anyway. He can dance.
Speaker 1: He's your celebrity crush, one of my celebrity crushes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y is he single?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know he has kids. Let's look
Speaker 2: it up. Things change, right, Let's look it up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna married.
Speaker 2: I was the one who called the shots to wrap
Speaker 2: this up.
Speaker 1: I'm an ordin. Yeah, we're wrapping. I'm an ordined minister.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've actually I used to have a
Speaker 1: wedding show. I did an Indian wedding once.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've learned so much. I had such a great time.
Speaker 2: I'm just still married.
Speaker 1: Yes, all of my couples we did ten episodes. I'm
Speaker 1: proud to announce all of them are still married.
Speaker 2: Hey, the Indian marriage you officiated? How many people who
Speaker 2: were there?
Speaker 1: It was a lot Tori.
Speaker 2: I did stand up comedy for a year.
Speaker 1: I talked about I didn't officiate that one.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I'm also a wedding planner, so I'm an ordained minister.
Speaker 1: If someone wants me to, I can marry them. But
Speaker 1: I also planned wedding, so I planned a wedding. Sorry,
Speaker 1: an Indian wedding officiated.
Speaker 2: I did stand up comedy for a year. My promise
Speaker 2: was dating dilimma, dating dilemmas as a millennial virgin, as
Speaker 2: an Indian American millennial virgin. One of my graden One
Speaker 2: of my jokes was, if I ever get married, I
Speaker 2: don't need a big fat Indian wedding with all that hoopla.
Speaker 2: Eight hundred brides mes eight hundred people eat you brides,
Speaker 2: mes and all that. Let's just go to Vegas and
Speaker 2: call it a day. All that money can go to
Speaker 2: my facelift in ten years.
Speaker 1: It's not just the pretty face, smart girl. So true,
Speaker 1: so true. Well, thank you, you wish. We have so much.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do together.
Speaker 2: Let's do.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna freeze your eggs. I'm gonna find you somebody.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to your dad maybe, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to plan your wedding. So cool. Drop the mic, drop
Speaker 1: the v