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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, a deep dive on

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Who are the players to pay attention to,

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Speaker 1: both on offense and defense. Also, we examine the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: run game. The numbers say is one of the five

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Speaker 1: best in the league, but what do our eyes say?

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Speaker 1: And this week maybe the week for Kenyan Drake and

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Speaker 1: or Chase Edmonds to really break out. But first giving

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Speaker 1: credit where credit is due, It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode

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Speaker 1: three eighteen, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two with Craig Grigolu and Mike JARECKII. Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right throws near sight

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Speaker 1: of fence parts into the up to the touchdown. Here's

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Speaker 1: Craig Grielou and Mike Direcki. So let the records show

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Speaker 1: that it was Mike Jarecki who first brought it up.

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Speaker 1: And now for the first time since I know of

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Speaker 1: m Jay, maybe you can correct me. We have an

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Speaker 1: NFL head coach, a green with your comp of Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray as a punt returner and specifically Devin Hester. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you explain to the bird gang what the Lions

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Speaker 1: head coach Matt Patricia told local media earlier today. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, every week the opposing coach will do a

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Speaker 1: media call, and you know, obviously, since the Cardinals did

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Speaker 1: play the Cardinals in week one, they wanted to ask,

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Speaker 1: you know, Matt Patricia, what has he seen he compared

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Speaker 1: to week one? And he was just cloting with him

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Speaker 1: And the exact quote was, He's explosive speed is really

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Speaker 1: it's quite an exceptional It's really along the lines of

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Speaker 1: a punt returner. You brought this up yesterday, and I

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Speaker 1: think you've brought it up the week prior as well,

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Speaker 1: using that comp because not so much Michael Vick, not

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Speaker 1: so much Russell Wilson, but it's when Murray gets an

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Speaker 1: open space, which we saw against Washington, it's like a

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Speaker 1: video game. You're you're using him like a joystick, like

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Speaker 1: you would move him left and right, back and forth,

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Speaker 1: up and down. And I've seen on easy Cardinals dot

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Speaker 1: Com and they've got the kind of the best of

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray from that game in Washington and its label

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Speaker 1: as cheat coat and right now, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: else to explain it, but he is playing as if

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Speaker 1: the game right now is a video game to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we know that when we mentioned dual quarterbacks, but

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Speaker 1: Kyla Murray still has a strong arm. We're just talking

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Speaker 1: like we haven't seen this in a long time. I

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Speaker 1: guess Lamar Jackson would be the comp there because you

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Speaker 1: when I look at Murray when he when he gets running,

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Speaker 1: you know, initially because it looked like a running back

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Speaker 1: if you're going to open it up, okay, who does

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Speaker 1: he remind you of? And it looks like Devin Hester.

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Speaker 1: It's all he needs is and we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: one of the best returners in NFL history. So that

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Speaker 1: four threes obviously when Mike was in his prime. But

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle is more accurate on the deep ball.

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Speaker 1: to worry about stopping somebody else's offense. But yeah, and

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Speaker 1: When you hear the quarterback talk about you know, and

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, The Cardinals Report, and of course this show,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is at asy Cardinals dot com. Slash

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Speaker 1: this Lions team ahead of Sunday's matchup at State Farm Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and I know, you know, we look at you know,

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Speaker 1: three to five players that are going to be key

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals to pay attention to and in our

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Speaker 1: conversation about the offense. Although we did bring him up yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but we forgot to bring up the tight end in TJ. Howkinson,

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Speaker 1: who is actually the team's leading receiver at the moment

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Speaker 1: with nine catches for one hundred and eighteen yards and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. And we know he burned the Cardinals last

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Speaker 1: year in Week one, which we recapped in yesterday's edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, so he is certainly going to

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Speaker 1: be on the radar this week. Yeah, and when I

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Speaker 1: was refriended their skill position players, there's no doubt. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, now it's got to do it. And

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Speaker 1: got two words for you, divinere Campbell. We gotta come

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Speaker 1: up with the nickname some like the tight ends stopper

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Speaker 1: or something that doesn't sound that doesn't sound prettier or

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Speaker 1: anything creative. But we got to come up with something

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Speaker 1: for him. Well, I know they coined the phrase that

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons was going to be a racer DC eracer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: his nicknames DC. Do you see comics. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Tag him with a superhero. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's some more up here laying up here. It's such

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Speaker 1: a brain that mine. No, I don't know, it's hey,

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Speaker 1: just stop the guy. But very I mean, Howkinson's well built.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's he's kind of like a mini Grounk

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Speaker 1: out there. So once again we talk about game tackling.

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Speaker 1: With Stafford's accuracy, I always think it's an easy throw

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Speaker 1: on this as bad it down. But he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: some targets. And you said he leaves the team in

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Speaker 1: Galladay will start taking some of those touches and targets away.

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Speaker 1: But really good player. There's a reason why they used

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Speaker 1: it with the tenth overall pick for him. So Howkinson

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Speaker 1: and Dave Andre Campbell and perhaps maybe Kenny Galladay and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson though that was interesting to hear Banch Joseph

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Speaker 1: say he wasn't sure if Patrick would shadow Galladay because yes,

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Speaker 1: he's expected back. He's been limited in practice because of

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Speaker 1: that hamstring injury that kept him off the field each

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Speaker 1: of the first two weeks, so you have to ask

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Speaker 1: is he in game shape? How many snaps. Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna play, is he completely healthy? He plays the whole game.

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Speaker 1: But this certainly will be the biggest test as far

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Speaker 1: as wide receivers and wide receiver depth that this Cardinals

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Speaker 1: defense has faced to see. Yeah, and you've mentioned it

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Speaker 1: a few times and we get the luxury and were

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Speaker 1: fortunate enough to talk to DC Vans. Joseph and I

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Speaker 1: could listen to this guy talk all the time, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it because usually for us

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Speaker 1: when a guy's coming off an injury, like Marcus Gold

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Speaker 1: and Jermaine Grusham were like, you know, can they play

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Speaker 1: thirty snaps? Now? Hamstrings can linger? So as he's been

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Speaker 1: around the stationary bike, I'm sure he's been getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of treatment and a lot of heat on that hammy.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna fly out here does a swell out. But

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Speaker 1: Vans brought up a great point, I just assume he's

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Speaker 1: gonna play, like hey, I mean just bound back. But

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Speaker 1: it's a good point. I mean, they got to monitor

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Speaker 1: him because the last thing they want this to happen

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Speaker 1: is him have a setback and missed the next three weeks.

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Speaker 1: And it's similar to what we heard from coach Joseph

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Speaker 1: william D Drake Kirkpatrick. You know how many snaps will

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Speaker 1: we see him at the start of the season. He

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Speaker 1: didn't get all the training camp, so and does he

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Speaker 1: know the entire defense? Now a different story with a

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Speaker 1: He's certainly familiar with what the Lions do offensively, but

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Speaker 1: you never know, to your point about a hamstring, do

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Speaker 1: you stretch it, do you gun it? And then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden you feel it, and you're like, I

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Speaker 1: play through this or do I call it a day

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Speaker 1: and hopefully I'm able to go the following week. So

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Speaker 1: that's something to pay attention to. But this Lions offense, again,

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Speaker 1: on paper, they do have the weapons, and you look

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Speaker 1: at the defense and there's the question as far as

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Speaker 1: if we think the Cardinals defense is going to be

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Speaker 1: challenged by this Lions offense, then Cardinals offense. I don't

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Speaker 1: see much of a challenge from the Cardinals defense, at

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Speaker 1: least what we've seen so far this season. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: when we brought up seven players and usually we try

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Speaker 1: to go three or five on their offense, is because

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Speaker 1: this is the best quarterback and best skilled position players.

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Speaker 1: But you start looking at that defense, though, Craig Trey Flowers,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Collins, Jared Davis, who's kind of been they didn't

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Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option, true fon smiss in practice.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Acota is the third corner. I think the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: can attack that secondary now. I think Kyler and the

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Speaker 1: Murray up offense. I think they're gonna try to get

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Speaker 1: these guys on their heels by going with the hurry up.

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Speaker 1: And when we get to the third and fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: you know they got a lot of young guys as

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Speaker 1: the rotation guys. To Sean hand, he's been a decent

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Speaker 1: player in the league, but you look at that secondary

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Speaker 1: and you got to start looking for names. Now. Reggie Raglan,

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Speaker 1: he signed over from the other Chiefs, and he could

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Speaker 1: just tell reading between his comments this week, He's like,

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Speaker 1: this isn't we didn't play football like this in Kansas City. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know they were out on their scoring points.

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Speaker 1: They're not getting that from from Detroit right now. So,

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Speaker 1: but Raglan's a good player. He was the number fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how they rotate him and

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Speaker 1: Jamie Collins in there. But if we talked about the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals defense and we were doing a show in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: I think we've mentioned five or six guys or you know,

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker's a household name. I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: people know about Campbell and Hicks, but you know you're

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Speaker 1: throwing Patrick and Chandler, and you know, maybe even a

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Speaker 1: guy like Jordan Phillips people are aware of him. So

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Speaker 1: I can only really say there's there's maybe three guys

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Speaker 1: that you have to be concerned with. And really is

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Speaker 1: Trey Flowers. I mean, this guy can rush the passer.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they had intel when he signed from the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and they gave him a ton of money. He looks

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Speaker 1: the part. Danny Shelton was there. He played in New

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Speaker 1: England also, he was with the Cleveland Brown's a high

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Speaker 1: draft pick. He's kind of like a Corey Peters, a

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Speaker 1: space heater. He's got a really big butt where he

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Speaker 1: can try to get occupy lineman. So and again it's

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and so I think they have to scheme up,

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Speaker 1: you know, to try to bring some pressure, incorporate some pressure.

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Speaker 1: But then you know the key here is if they

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Speaker 1: try to, you know, put pressure on Murray and and

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Speaker 1: they put seventy guys in the box, he can throw it.

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Speaker 1: If they want to put six, well, Murray's gonna suck

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Speaker 1: those linebackers down where he's gonna have some open lanes. Well,

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Speaker 1: this team, talking about the Fins, they only have two

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Speaker 1: sacks on the season and no interceptions. And the one

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Speaker 1: big addition to this defense, at least from a draft

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Speaker 1: pick standout, we mentioned Jeff a good to the third

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Speaker 1: roll pick. He missed Week one with a hamstring injury,

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Speaker 1: and even though he played every single snap last week

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Speaker 1: against Green Bay, he did not look good. I was

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Speaker 1: reading one report out of Detroit and according to their

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Speaker 1: film breakdown, he allowed six catches on nine passes for

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Speaker 1: ninety six yards. And now, all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: narrative in Detroit is, to your quote, pumped the brakes

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Speaker 1: on Jeffakuda, which is what we were saying now about

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. So it's been a rough start, not just

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Speaker 1: for Simmons. He gets the bulk of it because we're

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Speaker 1: here in Arizona, but there's rookies all across the league

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Speaker 1: and some high draft picks as well, not counting the

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Speaker 1: quarterback class that are really struggling here out of the game. Well,

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Speaker 1: in fairness to hind he went against Aaron Rodgerson, Tomante Adams. Well,

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Speaker 1: now this week, now Kyler Murray's not at an Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers status, but DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald. Well to wait

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Speaker 1: and see if Christian Kirk is available. Uh, you know

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Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake is you know Kenyan Drake out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: chase Edmons out the back. I mean, hey, don't forget

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Speaker 1: our guy, Dan Arnold. That's right, he finally showed up

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Speaker 1: last week. Well, there was there was a couple of

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Speaker 1: throws that Kyler could have made to him, but you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously job I'm joking. Yeah, Hey, he's the number one

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Speaker 1: tight end right now. Well that's true officially on the

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Speaker 1: depth chart as well, with Max Williams on ir or

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Speaker 1: at least the next couple of games. Overall, this Lion's defense,

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Speaker 1: you know, we hammered them about how they can't stop

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Speaker 1: the run. They're actually pretty deep against the past, despite

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Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers was able to do last week. They're

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Speaker 1: overall numbers, they are a top ten defense defending the past.

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Speaker 1: The number of points that are that they are allowing,

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Speaker 1: which is really concerning thirty four and a half, which

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Speaker 1: is the third worst in the NFL. Only the Falcons

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Speaker 1: and Vikings are worse. And to see the Falcons and Vikings,

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Speaker 1: I got to be honest up there, that is a surprise.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this season, we all anticipated much better things for

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and Minnesota. I don't know if we could say

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Speaker 1: the same thing about Detroit going into this season. No,

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Speaker 1: but remember we were talking about this in the off season.

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Speaker 1: We get in a lot of lists worst to first,

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Speaker 1: and there are a lot of people and I agreed

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Speaker 1: that just because of Matthew Stafford, I thought it would

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Speaker 1: be difficult for Carla Murray. You know, here we are

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Speaker 1: a couple of games in and obviously got a long

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Speaker 1: ways to go. But yeah, you're always looking for that

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Speaker 1: surprise team, and you're also looking for a sleeper, and

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Speaker 1: you know teams are underrated, but they were. They were

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Speaker 1: projected to be worst to first just because of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I think, if I recall correctly, NFL dot COM's

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Speaker 1: Adams Shine had the Lions as his number one team,

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Speaker 1: even though he thought the Cardinals were a better team.

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Speaker 1: But to your point, within the division, how likely would

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Speaker 1: it be for the Cardinals to go worst to first?

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Speaker 1: And perhaps the toughest division in football, whereas the Lions

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Speaker 1: with the Packers, the Bears and not quite sure where

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Speaker 1: they fit in and could they surprise as Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: over the hill as we've seen, he's certainly not at

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Speaker 1: least through two games. So yeah, to your point there,

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Speaker 1: there was some expectation for the Lions this season, and

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Speaker 1: now after an O and who start, people are jumping

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Speaker 1: off that badlike him. Yeah, that's surprising that you brought

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Speaker 1: up there their top ten in the secondary, because you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't let me watched highlights. I can't say I've

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Speaker 1: watched their games, and I just look at players and

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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that have been heard of

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're not good players. But that surprises me.

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Speaker 1: But once again, we can get into time and possession.

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Speaker 1: What you do with the ball been getting obviously third down,

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Speaker 1: get them off the field, red zone force and teams

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Speaker 1: kick field goals. Points allowed are huge, huge. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you look at the teams are winning in the NFL

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Speaker 1: after the first month, look at points allowed. You'll see

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Speaker 1: unbeaten teams. Maybe Team one. Team will have one loss,

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Speaker 1: maybe the last second thing or something. But points allowed,

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Speaker 1: to me is the most important thing on defense, you

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Speaker 1: not allow them. They can go from twenty to twenty.

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Speaker 1: They get into that red zone at a green zone,

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Speaker 1: which is the money zone, hold the field goals. That

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Speaker 1: is a huge stat. Well, maybe as we kind of

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Speaker 1: go full circle here, would we start talking about what

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals rushing offense, the stats versus what we see

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Speaker 1: on past defense, the stats versus what we see and

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Speaker 1: in what we read certainly different night and day. They're

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Speaker 1: all of it come Sunday at State Farms Stadium. By

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Speaker 1: the way, that is a one twenty five kickoff eight

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Speaker 1: thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio

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Speaker 1: Network and Bird Gang. If you haven't already updates to

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Speaker 1: the latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. The

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Speaker 1: update features an all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com slash app four more. All right, Craig,

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Speaker 1: even though there's gonna be seven hundred and fifty family members,

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Speaker 1: friends and coaches, players, wives and girlfriends, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good time over the first home game that

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Speaker 1: came last week, you're able to send it like a

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Speaker 1: six to eight second video and they would play it

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Speaker 1: on the JumboTron. This time, they want you to build

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Speaker 1: a sign. You can make your own sign and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna put them on the JumboTron. So go to easy

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Speaker 1: to Cardinals dot com. They have an example out there

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Speaker 1: for you. So if if you can't be there, you're

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Speaker 1: there in spirit. We definitely miss you, Okay, that's clear.

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Speaker 1: Not having you know, the bird Gang and the Red Sea,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely noticeable, But our focus is what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the field this time. Hopefully things get better. But

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Speaker 1: you got you got an opportunity to be involved in

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Speaker 1: the in the crowd there, even though it's virtual. So

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Speaker 1: I recommend if you're a huge Cardinal fan and you

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Speaker 1: want to be there, you could be there in spirit

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Speaker 1: with us, and fingers crossed that late October maybe in

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Speaker 1: November those home games we will actually have bird Gang

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Speaker 1: and attendance. This week. As you alluded to, it's strictly

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Speaker 1: family and friends, no more than seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: as a trial run if you will, for this contest

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Speaker 1: the second home game. All right, your homework assignment, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be busy, you gotta be watching Thursday night football

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Speaker 1: and also get us your three keys to victory. So

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Speaker 1: far you're two and oh, so you know, forget about

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Speaker 1: Alan on the field. Maybe it's maybe it's Mike Direky's

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Speaker 1: keys that has made this two and others start. What

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Speaker 1: we're all seeing. Well, I mean, I do put some

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Speaker 1: thought into what I start during the week, and I

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Speaker 1: what kind of offseason he had. But obviously Hopkins got

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Speaker 1: he's a different animal in that open field. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta think I'm gonna start looking

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Speaker 1: press conference, he said, we're always asking about this other

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Speaker 1: time Yeah, that's the first time I've heard that this season.

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Speaker 1: And that's what separates teams that are strying to find

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Speaker 1: becomes about what we do, not about what they do.

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Speaker 1: They have to stop us. If we just do we're

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Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter what they on the other side do. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on

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