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Speaker 1: Welcome in a Verdict with Ted Cruz. Weekend Review. Ben

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Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, and these are the stories you may

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Speaker 1: have missed that we talked about this week. First up,

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Speaker 1: a big story coming out of Washington, d C. National

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Speaker 1: guardsmen that were shot, one of them killed. And what

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Speaker 1: we now know is the media wanted to blame Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump for this. Well, they now have had a massive

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Speaker 1: backfire as we're learning that this was clearly lack of

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Speaker 1: vetting done and warnings that were there by the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration that they were letting people in this country that

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Speaker 1: could be a threat to all of us. I'll have

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Speaker 1: all those details for you in just a moment. We're

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Speaker 1: also joined by Scott Jennings, you know him from CNN.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about his new book and also AI and

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Speaker 1: what you need to know. It's really incredible and finally

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Speaker 1: a massive win for the President of United States of

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Speaker 1: America telling Americans, I want to get out of your car.

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Speaker 1: Cafe standards are now changing and going backwards. And what

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Speaker 1: does that mean? A car that you can buy is

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Speaker 1: going to be a lot lower priced. It's the Weekend

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Speaker 1: Review and it starts right now. The media is trying

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Speaker 1: to say that these National guardsmen that got shot, one

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Speaker 1: of them has died. As the time we are doing this,

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Speaker 1: it happened, they're trying to say because of Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: rewriting the history and the warnings going back to as

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Speaker 1: we just played there from September of twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: on this exact thing happening in reality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, I wrote an op ed and

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Speaker 3: Fox News where I said, unfortunately, I believe we will

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Speaker 3: see American blood spilled because of these foolish mistakes. And

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Speaker 3: I went on to say, the truth is that the

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Speaker 3: Taliban doesn't want to be welcomed into the community of

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Speaker 3: civilized nations. They are vicious terrorists who want to kill us. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: because of the catastrophic mistakes the Biden administration made in Afghanistan,

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Speaker 3: we are much more at risk for deadly attacks by

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Speaker 3: the Taliban or Al Qaeda, which Pentagon officials estimate could

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Speaker 3: re group in Afghanistan in the next year or two.

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Speaker 3: It's a disgrace and the fault lies directly with President

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden and his administration. This was obvious at the time.

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Speaker 3: And look you heard on that clip in September twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about seeing the Donaana tent facility. When I

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Speaker 3: showed up there, I was like, well, are there any

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Speaker 3: fences around it? No? Is there any bearer? They're like no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: this is not a prison facility. And it was a

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Speaker 3: one star general who was taking me around in the helicopter.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, you know what happens. You're saying

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Speaker 3: anyone can leave. He's like, yeah, they're not detained. This

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Speaker 3: is just we're just offering them housing. Think of this

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Speaker 3: or if they want to go somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Else, they can go.

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Speaker 3: They can go somewhere else. And I yeah, And I

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Speaker 3: asked the army, are y'all doing any vetting here? They

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Speaker 3: said no, no, no, the State Department does that Afghanistan, So

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Speaker 3: it's all done before they get there. So they got

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Speaker 3: They don't keep a record of them. They don't ask

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Speaker 3: infuriating problem that the Biden administration invited into this country. Islamists,

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Speaker 3: terrorists who explicitly want to murder us. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: you know what is unbelievable is the shooting in d

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Speaker 3: week for threatening violence. Another one happened in Texas. Here's

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Speaker 3: one report from Breitbart. An Afghan national admitted to the

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Speaker 3: United States under President Biden's Operation Allies Welcome Resettlement program

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Speaker 3: was arrested this week after posting a TikTok video in

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Speaker 3: which he appeared to be building a bomb and referenced

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Speaker 3: Homeland Security. Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Triscia McLaughlin

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Speaker 3: reported the arrest of Mohammad da wood Alokose, saying he

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Speaker 3: allegedly posted a video on TikTok threatening to blow up

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Speaker 3: Task Force teamed up to make the arrest on charges

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Speaker 3: of making terroristic threats. This is happening, and by the way,

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Speaker 3: His arrest came one day prior to the a vicious

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Speaker 3: let people in, you don't vet them, This violence and

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Speaker 1: You combine what we're witnessing now with what you just

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Speaker 1: fact that people on the terrorists watch list were coming

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Speaker 1: to let more people. And we have that on video.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that on Verdict. They knew that people

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Speaker 1: were getting it on the terrorists watch list, people that

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Speaker 1: wanted to kill Americans. They knew there was a real

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Speaker 1: exactly still is. And you combine that with this, and

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Speaker 1: you sit there and you go basically they said, look,

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Speaker 1: we know people are gonna die, but we want an

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Speaker 1: open border. We know terifts are coming in, we know

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Speaker 1: of them. There's a lot of guidaways that we don't catch.

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Speaker 1: This is just the cost of doing business. There will

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Speaker 1: be human carbage of American citizens', abusive children, the rape

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Speaker 1: of children, the sex trafficking of children. There will be

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Speaker 1: murderers and all sorts of people in this country. We

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Speaker 1: know that it's worth it to flood America with illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 1: That was a calculated decision they made.

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Speaker 3: It was and the two occurred simultaneously. So on the

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Speaker 3: one hand, they're opening the southern border and letting anyone

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Speaker 3: come in. But on the other hand, they're affirmatively flying

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Speaker 3: tens of thousands of Afghans. And by the way, we

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Speaker 3: don't have any firm numbers in terms of how many

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Speaker 3: they brought in. In terms of vetting, you know, you

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Speaker 3: don't have anyone from the Biden administration saying, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we thoroughly vetted this guy before we brought him here,

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Speaker 3: because their view was there was nothing to vet. If

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Speaker 3: shows you how utterly incompetent the vetting is that they

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Speaker 3: just didn't care. Ideologically, they believed, well, their culture apparently

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Speaker 3: were not asking engaging in the serious vetting. And it's difficult. Look,

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Speaker 3: one of the problems with vetting a place like Afghanistan

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Speaker 3: the Biden administration I don't believe was even trying to

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Speaker 1: Right, sina, I want to go back to a little

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Speaker 1: over a year ago, and let's just remind people of

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and also how we got to the

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Speaker 3: Well, this just shows the overlap we were talking about

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Speaker 3: before that Ideologically, today's Democrat Party refuses to acknowledge the

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Speaker 3: and that it is fundamentally anti American and so in

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Speaker 3: April twenty four there were protesters in Dearborn, Michigan for

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Speaker 3: that and it was the International Al Kudds Day rally

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Speaker 3: where they began chanting death to America. And when that happened,

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Speaker 3: so so, Dearborn Michigan is in Rashida to Leed's district.

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Speaker 3: She is the member of Congress that represents Dearborn Michigan.

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Speaker 3: You have a rally in her district channing death to America.

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Speaker 3: And Fox News quite reasonably came and asked her if

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Speaker 3: she would condemn that. Uh, give a watch and give

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Speaker 3: a listen to how she responded, I love.

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Speaker 1: Their record, recD read not a great look.

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Speaker 4: The mayor condemned it, the White House condemned it. But

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Speaker 4: what about Congresswoman Rashida to leave she reps Dearborn. Is

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Speaker 4: she okay with her constituents chanting death to America? Fox

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Speaker 4: Business correspondent Hillary Vaughan asked her, watch congressmenan.

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Speaker 3: To Lee Fox News, I don't talk to Fox.

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Speaker 5: Newd At a rally in your district, people were chanting

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Speaker 2: Do you condemn talk to Fox News?

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Speaker 3: Do you condemn chance of death to America?

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Speaker 6: I don't talk to people that use racist troupes.

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Speaker 5: Why can't you just say whether or not you condemn

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Speaker 3: Why are you afraid to talk to Fox.

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Speaker 6: News is not not listen using racist tropes for us?

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Speaker 3: My community is what Fox joos is about.

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Speaker 1: And I don't talk to Fox News. It's death to America.

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Speaker 3: Racist news is chanting death to America.

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Speaker 4: Racist talking about your guys, racist tropes.

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Speaker 3: You know you are.

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Speaker 1: You guys know exactly what you do.

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Speaker 3: I know you're from a pole, but you guys gotta

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Speaker 1: You're on your own self.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna use me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sinner. You go back to that, and it's

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Speaker 1: just one of those moments where the warning signs are there.

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Speaker 1: but it's so predictable now, you know.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me when when Obama was president, John Carey

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Speaker 3: it had John Carey saying, well, can we meet you halfway? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the ideological incoherence. Look, when you walk down the

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Speaker 3: halls of Congress, and you've been there with me, ben

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Speaker 3: reporters stop you all the time. By the way, I

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Speaker 3: what you believe, I gotta say, that's not a gotcha question.

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Speaker 3: It's not a difficult question. Do you support death to America?

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Speaker 3: If you are a member of the United States Congress,

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Speaker 3: death to America is wrong. I'm against that. That should

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Speaker 3: not be difficult for anyone. It speaks volumes that Rashida

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Speaker 3: dangerous the ideological rod is. And tragically, we saw the

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Speaker 3: very real consequences of that ideological rod in letting unvetted

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Speaker 3: murdered one DC National guardsman and may have murdered a second.

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Speaker 3: We pray that he survives, but at this point our

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Speaker 3: prayers are with him because we don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,

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Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast

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Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two.

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Speaker 3: So on AI. AI is an issue I care about

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Speaker 3: a lot, and I agree with you that we are

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. After spending Monday at the White

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Speaker 2: were horrible what they were doing to the costs and

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Speaker 2: action is expected to save the typical consumer at least

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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars off the price of a new car,

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Speaker 2: and we think substantially more than that.

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Speaker 1: Senator, you hear him talk about this. This is exactly

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Speaker 1: what I think so many Americans voted for. It's government

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Speaker 1: actually not mandating things. It's government getting out of the

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Speaker 1: way of insane regulations to make your life easier. Just

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Speaker 1: give me a little bit of my freedom back. Let

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Speaker 1: the private sector do what the private sector does. Yo

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Speaker 1: putting all this government agenda on top of me, and

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Speaker 1: let me do what I want to do. If I

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Speaker 1: want to buy an Eva, I'll buy an EV. But

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Speaker 1: don't force me to do something. And don't make these

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Speaker 1: standards so insane that you raise the cary that the

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Speaker 1: costs of cars a point where I can't even afford anyone.

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Speaker 1: It's your choice.

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Speaker 3: It should be your choice. If you decide you want

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Speaker 3: to go buy a Tesla, Tesla's are amazing automobiles, you

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Speaker 3: can go do that. But if you decide you want

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Speaker 3: to drive your F one fifty, that ought to be

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Speaker 3: your choice too. And this legislation and what the President

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Speaker 3: did this week benefited consumers. Lowered prices made cars and

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Speaker 3: trucks a lot cheaper. It also made them safer. It

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Speaker 3: saved lives. It also helped produce jobs. Thousands and thousands

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Speaker 3: of jobs. Is billions of dollars of being invested by

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Speaker 3: car manufacturers in the United States. We're bringing blue collar

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Speaker 3: jobs back to America. Ben, Here's how. Here's how I

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Speaker 3: explained that in the Oval Office, standing next to the President.

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Speaker 3: Give a listen.

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Speaker 2: Anybody else want to say a few words?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Did I did? I?

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Speaker 3: Generally I'm easy to miss. Well, miss President. I want

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Speaker 3: to congratulate you on behalf everyone here for the leadership

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Speaker 3: that you're showing.

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Speaker 5: And this is a.

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Speaker 3: Victory today for consumers. This is a victory for affordability.

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Speaker 3: Your critics like to say the word affordability. Under Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: the Democrats, they put mandate after mandate after mandate on

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Speaker 3: cars and trucks, and they drove the price up thousands

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Speaker 3: and thousands of dollars. And with the actions you're taking today,

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Speaker 3: and you put on top of that the one big

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Speaker 3: beautiful bill. You know, most of the senators here on

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Speaker 3: the Senate Commerce Committee and on the Commerce Committee, we

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Speaker 3: worked together to zero out the Cafe standards. We wrote

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Speaker 3: that into the law, that the Cafe standards went to zero.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean? It means you can now, as

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Speaker 3: a consumer, buy the car you want. It also means

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Speaker 3: people's lives will be safer because what these regulations did

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Speaker 3: is they forced cars to be more expensive and made

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Speaker 3: a plastic instead of steel because you had to make

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Speaker 3: them lighter to comply with these standards. Getting a wreck

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Speaker 3: and people would die. The results of what you're doing,

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Speaker 3: you're literally saving people's lives and you're making it where

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Speaker 3: families can afford to get a new car. These actions

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Speaker 3: will drop the cost of cars and trucks thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's makes a real difference. And I'll make one final point.

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Speaker 3: You know about half the members here are car dealers,

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Speaker 3: and I will say, my good friend Roger Williams out

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Speaker 3: in the lobby, he tried to sell me a car,

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Speaker 3: which didn't surprise me. But I just just want to

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Speaker 3: give props to Mike Kelly. He showed he was savvyer

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Speaker 3: because he tried to sell you a car. And you

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Speaker 3: can aford a lot of nicer cars than I can.

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Speaker 3: So well done, Mike, Roger, you just went to the

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Speaker 3: wrong customer.

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Speaker 2: I was one hundred dollars chief.

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Speaker 5: The thing that tends you said, It's true plastic instead

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Speaker 5: of steal thinking of that, and people died because of that.

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Speaker 5: The plastic was plastic in an auto accident that it

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Speaker 5: broke up and people were shattered because of that crazy deal.

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Speaker 2: But it's a really good point.

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Speaker 3: God and vis President, I'll tell you the setate commerce

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Speaker 3: could On January fourteenth, we're going to have a hearing

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Speaker 3: with all of the big three there in Tesla, and

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Speaker 3: the entire hearing is going to focus on how your

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Speaker 3: leadership has reduced the burdens on car makers. That's lowering costs,

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Speaker 3: that's getting consumers more choices, and it's producing more jobs

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Speaker 3: in America and it's highlighted. That's a real record of success.

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Speaker 1: Not only is it a record of success, but as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned there and highlighted and the President agreed with you,

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Speaker 1: it's an issue of safety.

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Speaker 3: Senator Yeah, yeah, No, I mean it's these cafe standards

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Speaker 3: were making cars much much more dangerous. And we'll never

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Speaker 3: know who, but there are people who will live now

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Speaker 3: because of this change because they'll be able to be

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Speaker 3: in safer cars. Some of it is they may be

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Speaker 3: able to afford a new car now because as this

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Speaker 3: drives down the price of new cars and new trucks.

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Speaker 3: They may sell their old used car and buy a

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Speaker 3: new car because it makes it more affordable. New cars

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Speaker 3: typically have more safety features and enhance their safety. But second,

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Speaker 3: if you're not having to make these cars and remove

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Speaker 3: all the steel, you're much more likely to survive an

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Speaker 3: accident if you're in a car that has some weight,

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Speaker 3: has some steel, and doesn't just crumple up like a

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Speaker 3: beer can.

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