Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation is your girl. Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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Speaker 1: Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall and as always,
Speaker 1: stay scheming.
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Speaker 1: What's up, Congregation is sugarl Scam Goddess back for another
Speaker 1: installment of Yes, Scam Goddess.
Speaker 2: I name the show after me.
Speaker 1: I'm Lazy Mosley and I'm so excited to have our
Speaker 1: amazing guest here. He is Bi Coastal and thank goodness,
Speaker 1: was here filming his new Netflix show that he's also
Speaker 1: producing with his comedy group Astronomy Club. Astronomy Club on Netflix, y'all.
Speaker 1: He's also one of the three amazing hosts of Black
Speaker 1: Man Can't Jump in Hollywood, which is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite podcasts, which I recently got to.
Speaker 2: Do and at what South Fide Everybody la, what's up?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 2: I love that, I love the extra.
Speaker 3: I had to come in hot I need it, and.
Speaker 2: I truly need it.
Speaker 1: Truly the people who listen to this poor congregation that
Speaker 1: always like you guys are really wired. Why are you
Speaker 1: yelling directly into the microphone?
Speaker 2: Just turn your sound turn it down, just you know
Speaker 2: what it is. Are playing with me.
Speaker 3: You've been listening to this for a while. You know
Speaker 3: you got to turn this down.
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna be raggedy, deal with it.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, So wait, John, what's your relationship with scams?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Man, I was trying. I was thinking about this on
Speaker 4: the way over here. I was like, because here's the thing.
Speaker 4: I'm definitely a person who make sure I'm not getting scammed,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, yes, yeah, so that's a home for a lot
Speaker 1: of skim Yes, yes, I was.
Speaker 3: I was born in New York, I grew up there.
Speaker 4: I also grew up in Jersey and then went back
Speaker 4: and like I was like, you know, I'm always looking
Speaker 4: for the scams. I don't think I scam people, but
Speaker 4: I definitely look for shortcuts sometimes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Look for shortcuts, rebrand. Look, I'm not necessarily I'm just
Speaker 1: looking for short the law.
Speaker 4: Listen, you know, I love you know it's in the bylaws,
Speaker 4: there something, you know, if it's not there in black
Speaker 4: and white, you know, maybe there's a way to skirt
Speaker 4: around it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, hey, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like a scammer. Jo, those are
Speaker 1: those are the words I'm not. I don't cheat people
Speaker 1: out of money.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I don't do that.
Speaker 3: That's what I don't do.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't do that either. Maybe the government, but everyone else. No, No,
Speaker 1: just kidding government. I know you're listening. I'm paying out
Speaker 1: every penny that you deserve.
Speaker 2: I hope you know. Okay, I believe I don't Lauren Hill.
Speaker 4: Truly, the richest people in America are scamming the government constantly, constantly.
Speaker 2: It's so deeply about it.
Speaker 1: It's the middle class who's actually I heard doing the
Speaker 1: work within our billionaires.
Speaker 2: Like your money is in some fucking Iyeland, Like you
Speaker 2: fucking asshole.
Speaker 4: When you get a little when you get some money,
Speaker 4: and you like if you if you have your own
Speaker 4: business or you become like an escorp like a lot
Speaker 4: of us people have to do in the entertainment business,
Speaker 4: you realize how much of a scam it all is.
Speaker 3: It's like you can just start writing things off.
Speaker 2: Like left and right, everything right off, every single thing.
Speaker 4: Everything that you were using before, but you ain't getting
Speaker 4: the fast return for that.
Speaker 2: Listen, like, oh, all of a sudden, my cell phone
Speaker 2: bill is a business expense. Oh yeah it is. And
Speaker 2: enterings and this gym membership.
Speaker 3: Jenny's ash, my Netflix subscription, all of it.
Speaker 2: Everything.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I'm a little mad about right now,
Speaker 1: and I'm probably gonna leave my account, is that he's
Speaker 1: like not shady enough, Like I feel like these laziest
Speaker 1: fuck Like, not only is he not getting me returns
Speaker 1: on shit like he told me when I went to
Speaker 1: Georgia to shoot my show, but they were going to
Speaker 1: take six percent of my income six percent? Okay, my
Speaker 1: lawyers get five, right, George is taking six Okay, yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm like ya, I ain't even have me with this
Speaker 1: shiit for y'all take a six percent about to do
Speaker 1: some paperwork or some bitch you better come out here
Speaker 1: and put on motherfucker swimsuit.
Speaker 2: Georgia, Florida girls.
Speaker 4: The funniest thing about that is six percent is low
Speaker 4: compared to what some states try to take for you,
Speaker 4: like New York City.
Speaker 1: But I don't live in Georgia. It's like Kellie getting there, Georgia, gonna.
Speaker 2: Pull up some function.
Speaker 4: Should be getting it, really, if you're working there, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't even understand. Well.
Speaker 1: So I was talking him about it, and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so what can we do about this? And he said,
Speaker 1: what you mean, what can we do? You're gonna pay it?
Speaker 1: I said, what, I gotta get rid of your ass
Speaker 1: the fuck. I want a better call Saul last lawyer.
Speaker 2: He's kidding me.
Speaker 1: I want you in cheap shoes, cheap suits. I want
Speaker 1: you constantly sweating.
Speaker 3: That's great, that's right.
Speaker 2: I need to know I'm getting the best stretch.
Speaker 4: The tax accounts should always be looking ways to scam
Speaker 4: the government.
Speaker 3: Literally, that's what we pay you for it.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is lazy as fuck. I can
Speaker 2: go just pay them what I know him. I'm not
Speaker 2: why I called.
Speaker 4: You, Honestly, Sometimes I like with the first tax account
Speaker 4: I had, we had it for black Well maybe I
Speaker 4: shouldn't say this, but anyway, I won't.
Speaker 2: I won't put anybody. Yeah you had, we had.
Speaker 3: It, you know, for a business. And I was just like,
Speaker 3: so scammed.
Speaker 4: What is this person doing for us at all, because
Speaker 4: I'm doing.
Speaker 3: All the work. I'm I'm plugging it.
Speaker 4: All the expenses, I'm I'm I'm doing all the write offs.
Speaker 4: And then I just give it to this person. They're
Speaker 4: like great, and.
Speaker 2: Then they send it in. I was like, wait, what
Speaker 2: I just pay for?
Speaker 5: That'll be eighteen hundred dollars. I was like, wait, what
Speaker 5: did I pay you for? He's like, I emailed it
Speaker 5: to I'm like, nay, I can do that with turbo text.
Speaker 1: Like right.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm going back.
Speaker 1: To the block where like this, I'm about to be
Speaker 1: at H and R block, Like all right, y'all this
Speaker 1: my lll C. This is my Tammy. Tammy is that
Speaker 1: your name? What do you do for the non text months?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, you work at a craft store? Wonderful. Now get
Speaker 2: down on these steads because I'm sinking this ship.
Speaker 4: Oh man, so full transparency. My wife is the Spokespersonferation
Speaker 4: or black.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah see, and I love them. I would also
Speaker 1: like to be the spokesperson.
Speaker 2: I'll hear that.
Speaker 1: Everybody taken. All right, let's get into it. So the
Speaker 1: first segment of the show is called was Hot and Fraud.
Speaker 1: So we like to prevent our congregation from getting scammed
Speaker 1: unless it is by me. If it's a scam that
Speaker 1: I'm offering, I fully need everyone to anticipate you will
Speaker 1: have a good time, right right, you know that's right.
Speaker 3: We don't cheat people.
Speaker 2: We don't cheat exactly, but we get the money. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: You'll see.
Speaker 1: Jarathan came in here trying to be all cool. I
Speaker 1: thought about this on my way over here, like, hmm,
Speaker 1: scams something I'm not familiar with.
Speaker 2: I've never never done it.
Speaker 1: He is a full blown scammer, full blown I'm calling it.
Speaker 1: So we also have people sending little messages. Guys, if
Speaker 1: you've retired a scam or scam has been run on
Speaker 1: you and you want to share to our podcast audience,
Speaker 1: please scam Goods at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And today we have a listener who wrote him. I
Speaker 1: never say the listener's names, but you'll know who you are.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you, Uh, Shandy, Okay, Sandy, all right, Shandy.
Speaker 1: So she says, when I was a little girl, we
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of money growing up, so my
Speaker 1: parents couldn't afford to send me to fancy dance classes.
Speaker 1: But I was able to join the dance team at
Speaker 1: my church for free Hallelo. We were called Daughters of Zion.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know all about it.
Speaker 2: I come on with Daughters of Zion.
Speaker 3: I know all about that.
Speaker 4: What do you know about that that? I know specifically
Speaker 4: about Daughters of Zion, But I know about this. I
Speaker 4: know about the church lingual.
Speaker 3: I'll just say that. Wait, do you know you were
Speaker 3: deep in it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was deep in it.
Speaker 2: Did you do any performance as a church?
Speaker 3: I was since I was in fifth grade.
Speaker 4: I was acting in the church doing And I went
Speaker 4: to Times Square Church, which is a I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't they don't call themselves the mega church. They don't
Speaker 4: have other locations, but there's about eight thousand people that
Speaker 4: go to that, so it's pretty large. It's a really
Speaker 4: large and they actually the church is inside what used
Speaker 4: to be a Broadway theater, so it's like a full
Speaker 4: Broadway theater.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you're getting that experience as the church out
Speaker 1: here like that.
Speaker 2: That's in like an old performance place.
Speaker 1: I had like old timey like uh Greek kind of
Speaker 1: pictures of like painted on the walls. So they never
Speaker 1: instead of just hating the walls of the church, they
Speaker 1: have somebody put clothes on the people like they've hung
Speaker 1: drapery and like stap on it over the naked bodies.
Speaker 1: I'm like shit, And that church is a megachurch, right.
Speaker 1: I was like, if ye don't pay these damn walls
Speaker 1: with this money out and gave y'all, I'm waiting I
Speaker 1: go into everywhere, like where's my where's my benevolence going?
Speaker 1: Because it didn't go to Sherman Williams like I asked
Speaker 1: it to Wow so way. But I actually know a
Speaker 1: little bit because uh uh, draw told me that you
Speaker 1: are like big on the church.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, I mean I had a whole faith
Speaker 4: journey that happened, and I'm not I've learned to separate
Speaker 4: Christian culture from like the principles of Christianity that I respect.
Speaker 3: You know, you've got to do that, but it's hard.
Speaker 4: It's a hard process, especially if you're just going to
Speaker 4: If you going to church every Sunday sometimes on the
Speaker 4: Tuesday night prayer session or the Friday night youth service,
Speaker 4: you know you're in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot in it.
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to get to know people at church
Speaker 1: because I want to have everyone stay pure in my heart.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to be in the gossip
Speaker 1: in the church, Like you know, I saw a I'm offering.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was the love offering.
Speaker 1: I thought she puts them in the packet, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I don't want to be so
Speaker 1: deep in it that I haint no pass man.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, so you performed at the church.
Speaker 3: I performed. I performed at the church.
Speaker 2: What kind of plays? Maybe Jesus?
Speaker 4: I mean, I was never baby Jesus, but I wait,
Speaker 4: I definitely was Jesus. At one point I played Uh,
Speaker 4: I played the devil once h I was the Devil's life.
Speaker 3: Hold on.
Speaker 4: Let me explain that it was actually a play where
Speaker 4: it was, like I guess because the Devil's advocate had
Speaker 4: come out recently, so it was like a play. It
Speaker 4: was kind of like that where it was a person
Speaker 4: was on trial, and the person who was on trial
Speaker 4: was a Christian and God was the judge and Jesus and.
Speaker 3: I was the prosecutor.
Speaker 2: He not the witness.
Speaker 3: No, no, he's the prosecutor. He's like this person kuilty,
Speaker 3: you guys some to hell, and Jesus was a defender.
Speaker 4: You understand, Yes, No, I we understand I was in
Speaker 4: high school.
Speaker 2: I was in high school. Oh no, was that in
Speaker 2: high school?
Speaker 3: I think I was in middle school.
Speaker 2: Oh even better.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it was this huge four like you know,
Speaker 4: I had to be like I had to be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: this person did this and this person did.
Speaker 2: That, and were they doing that? You were like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, like they.
Speaker 4: Were having sex, they were married, this spicy and you
Speaker 4: know they they cursed out their mom.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, all the white kids are going.
Speaker 3: To help, you know, all these things.
Speaker 4: And then of course the end of the play is
Speaker 4: like the person's like, wait, but you got saved.
Speaker 3: Then you're good.
Speaker 2: Bro. Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: See That's what I'm banking on, is that, like when
Speaker 1: when I get older, or at least, I'll have like
Speaker 1: a couple of seconds before I die, or I could
Speaker 1: be like I'm so sorry, purified, you know, gotta get it,
Speaker 1: gotta get it. So this girl, she Shandy, she was
Speaker 1: in the Daughter's Zion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a tangent. Guys,
Speaker 1: we're back so with Shandy the Daughters of Zion, and
Speaker 1: this was like a conservative church in the South in
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. So I have a full picture of this.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of church I went to. At
Speaker 1: one point, two families showed up to our church who
Speaker 1: said that they were Ukrainian refugees. There were two moms,
Speaker 1: sisters or old friends i think, and their daughters. The
Speaker 1: two of them were about fifteen or sixteen, and the
Speaker 1: other two were my age seven or eight. The girls,
Speaker 1: who were all very legitimate gymnasts and dancers, joined our
Speaker 1: RinkyDink little church dance group. These women would take their
Speaker 1: daughters around to local churches put on a dance performance.
Speaker 1: Ribbon dance was all the rage at the time. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was very lit in the nineties. Tell a harrowing
Speaker 1: story of a fleeing violence and collect an offering from
Speaker 1: the congregation. She said she got really close to these
Speaker 1: girls and they attended her birthday parties, We had sleepovers,
Speaker 1: and they were my friends. And one day they just disappeared.
Speaker 1: They left town with no explanation. About a year ago,
Speaker 1: I asked my mom whatever happened to the Ukrainian girls,
Speaker 1: and she told me this. They would go around the
Speaker 1: whole country, dancing at churches and collecting cash offerings, then
Speaker 1: move on to the next They weren't refugees. And those
Speaker 1: girls my parents later learned that they weren't even their daughters,
Speaker 1: and none of them were really.
Speaker 2: Oh damn, you love to see it. That's okay.
Speaker 3: That hurts.
Speaker 4: That hurts because you know those people were just those
Speaker 4: people were trying to help somebody else, but they did
Speaker 4: help up.
Speaker 2: I guess you're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: The story wasn't the actual story. Maybe these women are
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. Maybe they're just great actors and dancers from
Speaker 1: New York who realized I cold take their show on
Speaker 1: the road. But did they not anoint y'all with a
Speaker 1: ribbon dance in his name?
Speaker 3: That's true, you know, isn't.
Speaker 2: That worse offer it? Right?
Speaker 4: I mean they became friends, like you know they It
Speaker 4: sounds like they befriended some people exactly, some relationships, right.
Speaker 2: Y'all was having sleepovers. Those sleepovers were fun.
Speaker 1: You got to learn dance moves from trained gymnasts. They
Speaker 1: probably went to the Olympics after that. That's how they
Speaker 1: make their money. On the off season, they know, they
Speaker 1: go do travel.
Speaker 4: I guess if you think about it, like if they
Speaker 4: just were living off that money and just for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: they're like, this is the work, this is our work.
Speaker 3: Our job is this isn't really that bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the difference between that and what we do.
Speaker 1: We're entertainers and we're like, hey, I'll entertain you give
Speaker 1: me money please, and I will give you entertainment.
Speaker 2: I think that's what happened here. It's true. But I'm
Speaker 2: sorry you lost your friends like that girl, because they
Speaker 2: just packed up.
Speaker 4: In the middle of Yeah, that's sad because you were
Speaker 4: you were just a kid and you just wanted to
Speaker 4: hang out your friends.
Speaker 3: Sleepover and they're like, no.
Speaker 2: Splana over here. We were supposed to go see Barny live.
Speaker 1: Oh, all the windows are open, all the doors are open.
Speaker 3: They just gone, never to be seen again.
Speaker 1: But really, you probably never even knew their real names.
Speaker 1: Oh I wonder if she did their real names. That's exciting,
Speaker 1: just hanging out with somebody who got a different identity.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff. I'm honestly, that's dating. In
Speaker 1: LA you don't know the fuck you're dating. They just
Speaker 1: tell you whatever. Actually, especially New York, you don't know
Speaker 1: who the fuck you're dating is. Everybody got thirty seven
Speaker 1: thousand jobs. Everybody walks everywhere, so you've really not seen
Speaker 1: anybody get out of any vehicles.
Speaker 2: You don't really know what anybody's life.
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, that's right, because you can't. You can judge
Speaker 4: somebody based on what the vehicle did.
Speaker 2: Now you can't.
Speaker 1: I will say that you like a lot of people
Speaker 1: drive around their mortgages. And I went on a date
Speaker 1: once with this guy who was driving like an S
Speaker 1: class Mercedes Benz and it was really nice and we
Speaker 1: started talking and he had mentioned something about a payday loan.
Speaker 1: He's like, years ago, I took out a payday loan
Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, you took out a
Speaker 1: payday loan. I said, so is your credit like really
Speaker 1: shot now because those are predatory and it was like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm working on rebuilding it.
Speaker 2: I said, are you leasing that vehicle? He goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm leasing. I was like, oh, I bet that payment's
Speaker 2: really high. Huh. He was like yeah, it's pretty high.
Speaker 2: I was like, where do you live right now?
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I'm living my friend. He's with his
Speaker 1: wife and his baby. But I'm about to move out
Speaker 1: and get my own spot. I was like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you have three roommates and one of them is a child,
Speaker 1: and you're driving a bins that you can't afford and
Speaker 1: your credit is shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah it. I'm Annalise Keaton of Dayton Brokenes.
Speaker 1: I come in with my briefcase and I wabble walk
Speaker 1: over and I find out if that niggas brokay like saying.
Speaker 2: You right clean, but y'all can job. But okay, no,
Speaker 2: that was amazing. Wait, I was okay you were doing
Speaker 2: who is that? Who's a song? Uh? Of course, of course.
Speaker 4: I immediately when you stay fly bye.
Speaker 3: It's gonna come to us, it's.
Speaker 1: I stay fly And I was people chicken head, you
Speaker 1: ride clean, but y'all gas tank is all me show
Speaker 1: up in a club. No day said shows on your fate. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta listen to those lyrics. Ladies, don't say I
Speaker 1: never gave you anything scarce.
Speaker 3: Cold.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, and we're back with my favorite segment
Speaker 1: of the show, as I say every week, Historic hood Wings.
Speaker 1: So this is when I'm gonna regale John with an
Speaker 1: infamous Cohn and we'll just get his thoughts.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I love this guy.
Speaker 1: He's from one of the countries that really just perfected
Speaker 1: scamming in such a magnificent way.
Speaker 2: Nigeria. You know when you think about the origin, when
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 1: About ground zero for fraud, you know, two places come
Speaker 1: in mind for me. One is Brooklyn, New York, and
Speaker 1: the other one is Nigeria, the country.
Speaker 2: It's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: Lookten, shout out to all my Nigerians. Olmo niger. I
Speaker 1: love y'all so much. It's no shade, it's just we know,
Speaker 1: we know. And also we're proud. And I'm proud of
Speaker 1: this man, and I think by the end you'll be.
Speaker 2: Proud of him too.
Speaker 1: So this is Nigerian scammer, Emmanuel Wood. So he has
Speaker 1: an inn in front of the last name Wood. It's
Speaker 1: in Wude.
Speaker 2: But I have so many Nigerian friends, so I know
Speaker 2: that you don't pronounce the N like what you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: You are so I eat fufu. Also, I'm black. I
Speaker 1: need to say that every show. If you don't know yet,
Speaker 1: I am black. So I'm allowed to say all these
Speaker 1: things because I don't know where I'm from in Africa, Okay,
Speaker 1: probably somewhere where they could dock a boat, you know,
Speaker 1: that could be anywhere on the West. So this is
Speaker 1: my culture, right. So this is a Nigerians cammera Emmanuel
Speaker 1: mood Why, Oh my god, I said the end.
Speaker 3: No, you set yourself Okay, oh my god.
Speaker 2: So Emanuel is a fraud artist.
Speaker 3: Fraud wow, look at that. Fraud artists?
Speaker 1: What's some respect on man's name? And former director of
Speaker 1: Union Bank of Nigeria. He's also known for defrauding Nelsonskagucci,
Speaker 1: a director at Brazil's Bungo Not based in San Paulo,
Speaker 1: of two hundred and forty two millions of them things.
Speaker 2: I did not think that was gonna be million, like me.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, tally forty two thousand, that's respectable million.
Speaker 2: Oh did you not hear fraud artist?
Speaker 3: Okay, honestly, my bad, my bad.
Speaker 2: You thought we were playing. Okay, okay, let's go right,
Speaker 2: let's get it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, this is this is the hall of fame
Speaker 4: right here.
Speaker 1: Absolutely So his accomplice has handsome accomplices. I don't need
Speaker 1: to read off their names, but you know I can
Speaker 1: pronounce them.
Speaker 3: We just need to know they're handsome, handsome.
Speaker 2: And well out there. Okay.
Speaker 1: So, once upon a time before he carried out the
Speaker 1: largest or excuse me, the third largest banking scam in history.
Speaker 1: Top three, top three. Yes, top two and I'm not
Speaker 1: number two would have been better. May well, you should
Speaker 1: have scammed a little higher. So he was an average
Speaker 1: guy who worked at as a director of the Union
Speaker 1: Bank of Nigeria. In addition to regular income that his
Speaker 1: job gave him, it also gave him access to a
Speaker 1: lot of classify documents and information.
Speaker 3: Information is key.
Speaker 2: Information is paramount, and opportunity. We all know scammers.
Speaker 1: When you start to really work inside a business, you
Speaker 1: always learn what the cracks are.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know if they're gonna notice if you take twelve
Speaker 1: staplers home or not. And you start to figure that
Speaker 1: stuff out, and then it starts with the staplers and
Speaker 1: you're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, maybe take home these forms.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna take a whole filing cabinet home
Speaker 1: to my house, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, why do you need a filing cab? Why do
Speaker 2: why don't I for all these files? And I'm still, look,
Speaker 2: I gotta get organized, Okay. I started stealing a couple
Speaker 2: of files. Know this is a scam artist or I said,
Speaker 2: I have an off sepote that I run out of
Speaker 2: my home.
Speaker 1: So in nineteen ninety five, after he quits his job
Speaker 1: as director of the Union Bank of Nigeria. Wood used
Speaker 1: information from his former job to pretend to be Paul Oguma.
Speaker 2: Oh whooma, oh Paul.
Speaker 1: So so Paul the governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria,
Speaker 1: then the fake Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria.
Speaker 1: So this is a manual pretending to be part convinced
Speaker 1: Nelson Skagucci, a director of Brazil's bank on arresta to
Speaker 1: buy steak in Nigeria's newest airport.
Speaker 3: I love the accident.
Speaker 1: At the end, Nigeria is going to have a new
Speaker 1: airport and it is going to be so nasty.
Speaker 2: You want to put your plan down.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get canceled by
Speaker 1: the Nigerian community.
Speaker 2: Fight me, no, don't please professional.
Speaker 1: So if the Brazilian bank director got in on the
Speaker 1: ground floor when the airport was being built, he would
Speaker 1: get about a ten million dollar commission as well as
Speaker 1: dividends on his airport investment. So it's like, listen, I
Speaker 1: know that there are no contracts. I know I cannot
Speaker 1: show you actual contracts of the building we have we
Speaker 1: but the building is going to be there.
Speaker 2: And if you get in on the floor there.
Speaker 1: You want to make so much money, I cannot actually
Speaker 1: put grat you with any forms. Okay, oh no, I
Speaker 1: do not I have any funds for you today.
Speaker 2: But listen to me. Yeah, ten million dollars, that's a
Speaker 2: lot of money. Yeah, I want you to give me
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty two million.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, wait, hold on, So my investment, my investment
Speaker 4: is twenty four times the amount I'm gonna get back.
Speaker 2: It's but I'm not thinking about that money that you
Speaker 2: stand to gain.
Speaker 3: Got you, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well tell me someone calling me
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: Hold on, I gotta be honest. You're so handsome. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's because you're handsome, but I
Speaker 4: think we got to do business together.
Speaker 1: Listen, has a has a man ever thatforded you out
Speaker 1: of two hundred and forty two million dollars?
Speaker 4: Never?
Speaker 3: Never, and this will not be the first that it happens.
Speaker 1: So eager to cash in on this sweet deal, just
Speaker 1: like Jonathan just showed us Horny Scagucci. Horny paid Wood
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety one million dollars in cash and
Speaker 1: fifty one million dollars in outstanding interest, despite the lack
Speaker 1: of a physical airport, which was promised okay several years
Speaker 1: to approve because of construction in nineteen ninety seven, the
Speaker 1: money trail started to chirp up.
Speaker 2: So two years later.
Speaker 4: They're like, h the money trail, that's what got them,
Speaker 4: not the fact that this airport didn't exist and there
Speaker 4: was no construction crews or nothing.
Speaker 2: Oh scouting, my friends, why are you calling me today?
Speaker 3: Hey? Uh yeah, I drove by that lot that you
Speaker 3: said we were gonna start building that airport in. Uh,
Speaker 3: there's nothing there. What?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, No, you must not look closely enough. There is
Speaker 1: a sign on the ground that says airport's coming soon.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Actually I did see that, Sidne.
Speaker 4: It was written in crayon, Yeah, Fred crayon, and it
Speaker 4: feels not as legitimate.
Speaker 2: Oh did you see that picture of the airplane on
Speaker 2: the sun. Yeah?
Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah, I just thought.
Speaker 2: You know, it has been two.
Speaker 1: Years now, so airports take Have you ever built on
Speaker 1: an airport's? Guy, I have not these sexy hands that
Speaker 1: I have have built it into.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what, I'm gonna give you some more time.
Speaker 1: Exactly how it happened that the phone guys was so
Speaker 1: lucky to have those transcripts. So that year Spanish bank
Speaker 1: Sentender just happened to make a move to acquire bank
Speaker 1: on the restaurant That'scrgucciese Bank. But during a deep dive
Speaker 1: on their books, which I hope was like a deep
Speaker 1: secession style dive. Do you watch Secession?
Speaker 2: Oh? I love secessions. It's just like Empire, but.
Speaker 1: With like a little bit better research, like because on
Speaker 1: Empire they have to keep everything vague. I always talk
Speaker 1: about this, like, I think, instead of likely Dano's going
Speaker 1: out and like getting information on how businesses are run,
Speaker 1: they just stick.
Speaker 2: With like very vague firs. Yeah right, we've talked about this,
Speaker 2: like the company.
Speaker 1: But on secession they're like the quarterly reports are down
Speaker 1: and like Kimdo's doing cocaine and being sad.
Speaker 2: Oh so good.
Speaker 1: So I hope it was like that. I hope this
Speaker 1: is like a secession style deep dive. But in this
Speaker 1: deep dive, they found out that two fifths of the
Speaker 1: bank's capital was registered to undisclosed.
Speaker 2: Accounts in the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 1: This, of course, was Wood's colossal taking of now three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Also, can we talk about the fact that the Cayman
Speaker 4: Islands are pretty much only known for like investling money.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's their brand, that's their brand. And I've
Speaker 1: been there so many times. And the funny thing is
Speaker 1: is like when you go to lots of islands, especially
Speaker 1: in the Caribbean, everyone is like super deeper friendly because
Speaker 1: tourism is just such a huge export for them. So
Speaker 1: they're trying to get your money from the gate, you know,
Speaker 1: all the way back to before you leave, right, But
Speaker 1: in the Cayman Islands, they're not like that because they
Speaker 1: don't need your fucking money because all they do is
Speaker 1: launder money. So, bitch, like, why are you over here,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Caymans.
Speaker 2: Go the fuck home. Are you a millionaire?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: They get the fuck out right out. Bitch. No, you
Speaker 2: can't handle plantains, holdies not sell to you.
Speaker 1: Could you ask back on that Carnival cruise ship, you
Speaker 1: raggedy bitch?
Speaker 2: They're nine nine because they're like, we.
Speaker 3: Don't have to be Oh my god, it's so real.
Speaker 1: It's so real because the banking industry is like keeping
Speaker 1: them completely afloat. They're like, are you a rich white billionaire?
Speaker 1: They raised the fuck up, Sandra. We're not braining your
Speaker 1: daughter's hair.
Speaker 2: They are mean.
Speaker 1: Sorry if you're from the game, and wait, if you're
Speaker 1: from the klines, tweety tweet me and tell me if
Speaker 1: I'm right.
Speaker 2: I heard you. I don't like tourist and I've experienced
Speaker 2: it as well. I was also I'm glad y'all don't
Speaker 2: know if I'm from here.
Speaker 3: They know immediately. They knew immediately.
Speaker 2: Also, I could be from there again, the diaspora.
Speaker 1: I will reiterate this throughout the show to legitimize my
Speaker 1: horrible accents. Okay, so the fraud was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is the other thing that I want to point out.
Speaker 1: Two fifths of the bank's capital, My guy Scargucci, you
Speaker 1: invested and they.
Speaker 3: Let you people, and they let you do this.
Speaker 1: Two fifths of all your bank's money in an airport
Speaker 1: you've never seen.
Speaker 2: Did you even visit the lot where the airport was
Speaker 2: supposed to be at?
Speaker 3: No, he definitely didn't. Like. This is the other thing
Speaker 3: that I think about with these stuff, with these kind
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 4: Is like, people have way too much money. When I
Speaker 4: dropped five dollars, I opened my wallet, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: we're gonna find a house call. I start tracing my steps.
Speaker 4: I started asking people, hey, man, you see fight the
Speaker 4: house on the street. I started, I turned over couch cushions.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm in the car looking at looking at
Speaker 4: the cracks.
Speaker 2: How they how they just gonna let three hundred million dollars?
Speaker 2: And then it's two years. After two years, then they.
Speaker 1: Go, wait a minute, where there's a little smoke coming
Speaker 1: out of John Z's is some money.
Speaker 2: We had a little bit of money. It was a
Speaker 2: little bit of money.
Speaker 1: Wait, you come in here, yo, damn. So we don't
Speaker 1: just digging through these these books. I'm immedia's something there.
Speaker 1: I'm puting my Spanish action. The people have something that
Speaker 1: were digging through the books and we just have a
Speaker 1: couple of.
Speaker 2: Where's the money? Yeah, you had the.
Speaker 3: Over trillion dollars and now it's three's it's only.
Speaker 2: Not undred movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not what we were a promise when we
Speaker 1: saw okay, oh you gave it to a sexy African okay.
Speaker 3: Oh oh no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 1: It's also nineteen ninety five, So I imagine technology is
Speaker 1: just so trash. Like whenever I think of nineteen ninty five.
Speaker 1: I think of the movie Goes and people typing on computers.
Speaker 1: For some reason, there was a green letter.
Speaker 4: Damn, that's man ninety ninety five. This was ninety five. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that means that money was even.
Speaker 3: More than it is now.
Speaker 2: Yeah god, yeah, wow, Why would I make a movie
Speaker 2: about this?
Speaker 4: Dude? I think they are going, Okay, they better they
Speaker 4: made a movie about some white dude who just scammed
Speaker 4: a couple of banks. But right like that dude, leonardocaprio, like,
Speaker 4: how much money did he steal?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Definitely not two and forty exactly, not a flex like this.
Speaker 1: He's not number two.
Speaker 3: He ain't number two.
Speaker 1: So the frog was uncovered after the December nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: seven Joint Board meeting.
Speaker 2: So they had a meeting. Everybody pulled up.
Speaker 1: To the meeting. What a what an uncomfortable meeting. You
Speaker 1: might not just give a water first, Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can have a little water. Let's get to it.
Speaker 5: Beach wears all our money.
Speaker 1: So this led to a criminal investigation in Brazil, Britain, Nigeria, Switzerland, and.
Speaker 2: The United States. I mean, if the US and getting parts,
Speaker 2: then are you really even doing crimes you want.
Speaker 1: Now, so world police and world criminal.
Speaker 3: That's true, we do.
Speaker 2: We're the good cop and the bad coup.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Hey, nobody can polie your crime. You police, We are
Speaker 1: all police. It's a huge problem. Laugh to keep from crying.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for the Brazilian bank director, the Abuja airport Abuja.
Speaker 2: That was the names.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a nice airport you wanted to Abuja.
Speaker 2: Am. Yes, it was a complete fiction tada.
Speaker 1: But by the time he figured it out, Wood and
Speaker 1: his accomplices had already fled with the money due.
Speaker 2: I don't even know why. Y'all really got to look
Speaker 2: at head start. No, we only listen. Listen. We are
Speaker 2: only two years behind. We will find them.
Speaker 3: We don't find them, Okay.
Speaker 1: Like Liam Nissa hopped on a plane five minutes after
Speaker 1: his daughter was taken.
Speaker 2: Y'all waited two years. Y'all ain't getting that shit back.
Speaker 1: I don't care how many people you neck chop, You're
Speaker 1: not getting that money back. So Wood got away with
Speaker 1: it until two thousand and four. Woo, so just to
Speaker 1: do that quick mass that's seven years.
Speaker 3: Seven years of just after they found out about it.
Speaker 1: Luxurey whoa when he was brought before a bunch of
Speaker 1: high court and charged with eighty six counts of fraudulently
Speaker 1: seeking advanced fees and sixteen counts of bribery.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to see these bribery counts because they.
Speaker 3: Are fun sixteen counts.
Speaker 1: So, however, after rumors that Wooed handsomely bribed the court
Speaker 1: staff that also charged him with bribery, the case was
Speaker 1: thrown at.
Speaker 2: My man got two hundred and forty two million dollars.
Speaker 2: You ain't like nobody I've got that kind of money.
Speaker 2: We already know this. People who are rich, they don't
Speaker 2: they don't go to prison. But you know it's always
Speaker 2: white people who are rich.
Speaker 1: You don't go, right, So I love to see you
Speaker 1: love to see a black man you skate away like this,
Speaker 1: You truly do.
Speaker 3: Like he was in So he was in Nigeria.
Speaker 2: Right, that's another thing. Right, So he's in his homes.
Speaker 3: In his own country.
Speaker 2: They were just like everybody, like what you did? It
Speaker 2: so wrong? Is that money you are putting on my temple?
Speaker 2: You know I cannot take that.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's gonna leave this one hundred thousand dollars here.
Speaker 1: I am going to have to charge you with one
Speaker 1: more count of bribery before trying to bribe me. But
Speaker 1: then I will throw other charges out. I'll charge you
Speaker 1: and then I'll throw out the So, according to Nige,
Speaker 1: the group pleaded not guilty and were warned not to
Speaker 1: bribe court officials after the alleged money was going around.
Speaker 1: So basically went to court and they were like.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, don't bribe anybody.
Speaker 2: Don't bribe me.
Speaker 1: Don't you come into my chambers and give me a
Speaker 1: suitcase full of money.
Speaker 2: Don't you do it.
Speaker 4: If you try to give me two hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, that would be wrong, especially if you left
Speaker 4: it at three two one maple would drive.
Speaker 2: In unmarked bills that were clean. But don't do that.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: So on July two thousand and fourth, Judge Lalgomy threw
Speaker 1: out the case again, claiming that since the crime did
Speaker 1: not take place in Abuja, he had no jurisdiction and
Speaker 1: said that the proper place would be Lago's High Court.
Speaker 1: So he got bribed probably and was like, you know what, actually,
Speaker 1: this ain't none of my damn business.
Speaker 2: This I need to mind my business. You know as
Speaker 2: a court officer to court, I need to mind my business.
Speaker 2: I need to mind my bass.
Speaker 3: My mom always told you mind your own business, so this.
Speaker 1: Ain't my business an African proverb. So as soon as
Speaker 1: they are let out and they assume they're, you know, free,
Speaker 1: the defendants were immediately re arrested as soon as they
Speaker 1: stepped outside of the courthouse, so they didn't get much treated.
Speaker 1: So in the Lagos trial, Wood attempted to bribe. Why not, Well,
Speaker 1: didn't we tell you to stop bribing people?
Speaker 3: He got endless money? Like what else is he about
Speaker 3: to do?
Speaker 2: We told you don't bribe nobody else.
Speaker 4: Damn I love it because they couldn't find his money,
Speaker 4: so like he's still able to bribe people.
Speaker 1: He's showed up to court and like Rose Wars's and
Speaker 1: like a full gold suit.
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, where's your money at head?
Speaker 1: He's like, I do not know, but I know I
Speaker 1: could find some of it's for you and I so,
Speaker 1: So then Wood attempts to bribe.
Speaker 2: Knew how Reba do I'm probably not saying that right.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: Who was then the Chairman of the Economic and Financial
Speaker 1: Crimes Commission the EFCC, with seventy five thousand dollars cash. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's my issue, Wood, seventy five k man.
Speaker 2: You came in wag.
Speaker 1: Your offer was offensive and that's probably why it didn't
Speaker 1: work out, Like you stole two and forty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't be dollars. That's too low.
Speaker 1: That's like that's trying to give me, Like give me
Speaker 1: seventy five dollars, Like, hey, make this go away.
Speaker 4: Now, just on pettiness.
Speaker 1: So he refused obviously because it wasn't enough money money,
Speaker 1: and Wood was charged with attempted bribery again as well
Speaker 1: as an attempt to kidnap a prosecuting witness.
Speaker 2: So where did that come from? Escalated quickly? Who are
Speaker 2: you paying now?
Speaker 1: So he was like, fine, you don't want to take
Speaker 1: my seventy five thousand dollars, I'm gonna pay that to
Speaker 1: somebody else who go kidnap me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God damn, seventy five is all I'm giving. That's
Speaker 2: my final lot. Like, you can't play hardball when you
Speaker 2: trying to go to jail.
Speaker 1: So during the trial, there was a bomb scare that
Speaker 1: caused the courthouse to be evacuated.
Speaker 3: Curious hmm, I don't know. What the plan was with
Speaker 3: that one though?
Speaker 2: You just that's only gonna get you like two hours
Speaker 2: some bomb sniffing dog she tried to accomplish with. That
Speaker 2: reminds me.
Speaker 1: Of that Dave Chappelle gift where he's playing the President
Speaker 1: and he sits down at the table and like tosses
Speaker 1: over the pitcher of water and runs like this was
Speaker 1: Wound's like Scooby doo ass try to escape, Like that's
Speaker 1: not enough time, Wound.
Speaker 2: You thought you was gonna get to Canada. Baba, who
Speaker 2: are you doing? You didn't build your fake airport, so
Speaker 2: you got to fly.
Speaker 1: Out the regular one, like what Bobby?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: So, Emmanual and the Zerbe, Lord Jesus, you doing really good.
Speaker 2: You're doing it really well. I'm not. I started. I
Speaker 2: put the end there. It's supposed to be Zerobees. There
Speaker 2: we go. Fuck So Emmanuel and Zerbe. Oh golly, I
Speaker 2: like it. Oh We're gonna go with it.
Speaker 1: Guys pleaded guilty after testimony in hopes of a more
Speaker 1: lenient sentence, and were sentenced to twenty nine years in
Speaker 1: prison collectively, with Wood receiving five concurrent sentences of five years,
Speaker 1: totaling twenty five years and a' colleae receiving four So
Speaker 1: o'clie only got four years. Wood got twenty five years.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why the sentences are consecutive. I guess
Speaker 1: because they're trying to do is to make sure you
Speaker 1: can't pleat out and not serve all of them.
Speaker 3: I think they just because they wanted him to go
Speaker 3: to jail for a long time for what he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 1: So the entirety of Wood's assets were confiscated to be
Speaker 1: returned to the victim, and ten million dollar fine was
Speaker 1: in posposed to be paid to the Nigerian federal government.
Speaker 3: Okay, so oh wait, he got his ten million.
Speaker 2: Now, Nigerian, why you got to pay you? He ain't
Speaker 2: scam y'all. He didn't scam y'all. He scammed Brazil. They're like,
Speaker 2: and you know what, give us ten million as well
Speaker 2: because we know you got it. I mean, we had
Speaker 2: to put you on trial. That was expensive. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: costs ten million dollars. And what about that bomb threat
Speaker 2: that we gave you the cell phone to call in for?
Speaker 3: That costs ten million.
Speaker 2: Canines are expensive.
Speaker 1: So Mood filed a lawsuit to recover his Sea's assets
Speaker 1: after they were released from prison.
Speaker 2: After he was released from prison, Do you want to
Speaker 2: guess what year he.
Speaker 4: Was released, Well, I'm clearly it was not the twenty
Speaker 4: five year sentence he was supposed to serve.
Speaker 1: I want you to give me a Bob Park guest
Speaker 1: on how many Okay, So he went to prison and
Speaker 1: say like two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: Two thousand, Yeah, like two thousand and four. Four.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, you know, white collar crime, they probably
Speaker 4: get out in like three years. But I'm gonna add
Speaker 4: I'm gonna add three more because he's black.
Speaker 2: So six but he in a black country.
Speaker 3: Oh that's true, So let me subtract too.
Speaker 1: I love the racesm math, I love Okay, everbody's okay
Speaker 1: four years.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're you're close. But no cigar. He got out
Speaker 2: in two thousand six. Damn. I was in the cling
Speaker 2: for less than two years.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Chah o King. So he filed a lawsuit after doing
Speaker 2: less than two years in.
Speaker 1: Jail to recover his assets once he was released from prison,
Speaker 1: on the grounds that some of the assets were acquired before.
Speaker 2: The crime was committed. He was like, okay, some of
Speaker 2: that money was mine.
Speaker 1: Is basically what he said he has already reclaimed at
Speaker 1: least fifty two million dollars. The scam was the third
Speaker 1: largest banking fraud scam in the world, and it popularized
Speaker 1: advance fee fraud syndrome, meaning that now when people want
Speaker 1: money up front, which I've talked about on an episode
Speaker 1: with Lauren Lapkins, imbursement' do reimbursement. I want preimbursements. I
Speaker 1: want my money up front. But now that's a nerve
Speaker 1: wracking thing for people because they worry, like, what if
Speaker 1: I give you three hundred million dollars for an airport
Speaker 1: and you never build it?
Speaker 3: Right? Right, right?
Speaker 2: So, advance fee fraud.
Speaker 1: Is a type of fraud in which businesses and individuals
Speaker 1: are required to pay in advanced fee. It's pretty self explanatory.
Speaker 1: The targets of the fraud, which include businesses and individuals,
Speaker 1: receive a solicitation with someone posing as a business or
Speaker 1: representative of the government promising large suns of money will
Speaker 1: be deposited once they reach their target. To ensure this,
Speaker 1: the recipient of the letter is asked to pay a
Speaker 1: certain percentage of the total amount. And it's always like
Speaker 1: a wire or a transfer. Anytimes somebody telling you they're
Speaker 1: gonna wire you money like immediately become afraid, right right,
Speaker 1: and this type of fraud sometimes called four to one
Speaker 1: nine fraud after the relevant section of the Nigerian Criminal Code.
Speaker 1: So now he has any own crime named after him.
Speaker 1: After him, I'm proud of him.
Speaker 3: Hall of fame.
Speaker 2: Emmanuel you have a crime named after you, and.
Speaker 1: You are full on free and a full on millionaire.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Emmanuel O.
Speaker 2: King.
Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, I'm just thinking about all of the
Speaker 4: you know, not to make this about race, but like,
Speaker 4: seriously though mad scam like movies made with like white
Speaker 4: people scamming people, and that they don't even come close
Speaker 4: to what this dude did.
Speaker 2: And he's free, and he's free, and he got out
Speaker 2: in two years.
Speaker 4: Just like just like any other white person would. Man,
Speaker 4: that's amazing, that's truly, that's inspired. I mean, he's sold
Speaker 4: fifty two million dollars, but honestly, those people probably shouldn't
Speaker 4: have had that much money to begin with.
Speaker 2: They're hoarding it. To be honest, he is he not
Speaker 2: readistributing the wealth.
Speaker 1: He's out here paying every government employee, he bribing everybody.
Speaker 1: I want you to think about the little girl who's
Speaker 1: daddy is a judge, and that Christmas she got that
Speaker 1: doll that she wanted, or that Beyonce tickets that she wanted.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Think about how many blessings
Speaker 2: and Manuel created for the people of his life.
Speaker 1: That he they scambe. Now, one person did get kidnapped,
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, was it threatened to kidnap or I think
Speaker 1: it would have been threatened.
Speaker 2: To kidnap at tempted to kidnap, yeah, which is not
Speaker 2: even that bad.
Speaker 1: As a woman who walks down the street, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure I've been people have been attempted to kidnap me
Speaker 1: every day and I'm doing Okay, so what this really do?
Speaker 1: This would by really fast, John, I mean so fast
Speaker 1: we reached the last segment of the show.
Speaker 4: I'm sad.
Speaker 2: Oh I am too. So this is a scammer of
Speaker 2: the week. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is when we pick like one honorary Charlatan
Speaker 1: who's worthy of our praise and uh we just we
Speaker 1: just share their exploits with the world.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: So this year's scammer of the Week is Jeffrey wall
Speaker 1: A Freeport, a main concert promoter who raised over three
Speaker 1: million dollars from investors, allegedly falsely telling falsely telling them
Speaker 1: that the money was going to be used to host
Speaker 1: Christian music festivals and that profits were guaranteed.
Speaker 4: Okay, right back into Christian world, Christian Coachella, christianell.
Speaker 1: You know, you can be as problematic as regular Coachella.
Speaker 1: There's just like maybe no drugs and sex. But you
Speaker 1: can wear a flower.
Speaker 2: Crown and or an Indian head dress.
Speaker 3: That's right, That's right. You can lift those praise hands
Speaker 3: in the air.
Speaker 2: Can we drink wine and call it communion? You can
Speaker 2: sip some you a they probably can serve white claws.
Speaker 3: Listen, you can get high on the Holy Ghostkay.
Speaker 2: You're heard here first.
Speaker 1: So the Lighthouse Events LLC gotta have an LLC, founded
Speaker 1: by Jeffrey Wall, described itself as a Christian ministry that promotes, organizes,
Speaker 1: and hosts music concerts and festivals. Wall solicited investments from
Speaker 1: companies through emails, one which read, become a financial partner
Speaker 1: with our summer festivals. Help us spread the message of Christ.
Speaker 1: Plus earn twenty percent on your investment.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wait, so I can save people and make this money? Yes,
Speaker 3: I can serve both.
Speaker 1: Masters ohugget, we get sanctified.
Speaker 2: And we get in dividends, amazing on your investment is trash.
Speaker 1: So regulators say that Wall did not disclose his company's
Speaker 1: poor finances and growing dudes instead of Christian concerts. Investor
Speaker 1: funds were allegedly used to pay off his existing debt.
Speaker 2: So now I want to know what scam.
Speaker 3: He was doing for this.
Speaker 4: I love that he just did a whole scam just
Speaker 4: to pay off some debt, probably from his last camp, from.
Speaker 2: His last scam.
Speaker 1: When you're like a career scammer, always looking for your
Speaker 1: next income film, right, So now he was like, I'll
Speaker 1: just send out email, unsolicited emails, and this works.
Speaker 2: It works, it works.
Speaker 1: So the defendants' actions constitute what is known as affinity fraud,
Speaker 1: which refers to investment scams that prey upon members of
Speaker 1: identifiable groups, such as religious or ethnic communities.
Speaker 2: In this case, the.
Speaker 1: Defendants defrauded investors who shared Wall's religious views. So I
Speaker 1: guess he found Oh wait is this the guy?
Speaker 2: This is Wall?
Speaker 3: Ohm? My wow?
Speaker 2: Look at his bland ass family. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: If these people walked past me even after staring at
Speaker 1: this photo, I'm like Kiki Palmer I could stay at
Speaker 1: this for two hours and.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I don't know this man.
Speaker 3: It's truly the most like generic looking.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a more generic looking family. They should
Speaker 1: all be scammers. I would never remember any of their faces.
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm forgetting them as I look at that, like
Speaker 4: I'm staring at them and it's I'm forgetting.
Speaker 1: It's like I could be friends with them for years
Speaker 1: and then I could see them in a Starbucks while
Speaker 1: I'm waiting.
Speaker 2: For coffee and night.
Speaker 3: I truly want to know the backstory of like what
Speaker 3: what that debt was?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Right? It might be murdering people.
Speaker 3: Es absolutely, wow, absolutely.
Speaker 2: I encourage you guys to look up Jeffrey Wall and
Speaker 2: just look at his face, like these people, I can't.
Speaker 3: So he just emailed. He just emailed people, and he
Speaker 3: got the money.
Speaker 1: Yes, he was sending out unsolicited emails promising Jesus and
Speaker 1: twenty percent.
Speaker 2: And you know Jesus only asked for ten. I said
Speaker 2: this more than Jesus. That's the steal. He said, Look,
Speaker 2: I'm getting.
Speaker 3: I will multiply yo loose and fishes.
Speaker 2: Literally what the emails are? When Christian coach.
Speaker 3: And Coachell all your favorite Christian artists?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are our favorite Christian artists?
Speaker 3: I like this is so this is like Christian, Like,
Speaker 3: this is like Christian Roth.
Speaker 2: I'm assuming Christian.
Speaker 3: This is like Chris Tomlin. Okay, this is.
Speaker 2: Like Sean McDonald. Does he still make music?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think so.
Speaker 2: You know I love I do love that.
Speaker 1: Song take my hammer, take my hand to the prom
Speaker 1: saying love you want to where I stand back?
Speaker 4: Can I do it?
Speaker 2: I need you? What need underneath? I know that I
Speaker 2: need you. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm from Texas. Okay, so I had to listen to
Speaker 1: Christian procusts absolutely forced upon my ears.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: I would totally like do Molly and and we're a
Speaker 1: flower crowd and the only black person there.
Speaker 2: Something it's a scamper. Scamper that one black lady on
Speaker 2: Molly in a head dress? Oh man, oh man.
Speaker 1: But okay, So this is something that happens a lot,
Speaker 1: and it happens with different groups. It happens with a
Speaker 1: lot of hate groups as well. Groups that kind of
Speaker 1: hate like gay people or hate you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like they get scammed by like, look, we also hate
Speaker 1: who do y'all hate who? Hold on, I'm sorry, which
Speaker 1: who do you hate?
Speaker 4: Specific U We So here's the thing we're holding. We're
Speaker 4: holding a rally, clan rally. Okay, we're gonna take down
Speaker 4: all of these blacks and Jews and queers. And all
Speaker 4: we need is a small investment of one hundred dollars
Speaker 4: and you will get twenty percent off. You will get
Speaker 4: twenty percent turned on your investments once the white.
Speaker 1: Race has taken back supremacy. As soon as we get
Speaker 1: the supremacy back, as soon as we get the supremacy bag,
Speaker 1: we gonna get you your twenty percent on your investment.
Speaker 2: I promise you. Okay, just wait for the day.
Speaker 4: Promises that what's his name Duke something, David Duke. Wait
Speaker 4: till David Douke listen. We promise you forty acres and
Speaker 4: a mule. That's right, White reparations. Just give us one
Speaker 4: hundred times and you're gonna get your white reparations.
Speaker 2: I would love.
Speaker 1: We need to run this scam jot white reparations, and
Speaker 1: we just hit up racist groups and we're like black
Speaker 1: people always said they needed the forty acres in.
Speaker 2: The mule, but we know we need it.
Speaker 3: We know we need it.
Speaker 2: Our email to address is like whitey at.
Speaker 1: Gmail dot com, at gmail dot com, definitely a white
Speaker 1: person at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2: Caucasians.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, But as soon as we do get the supremacy,
Speaker 1: we will give you a twenty percent investment. Okay, absolutely,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, we've reached the end of the shop.
Speaker 2: That's so is that crazy?
Speaker 3: That's so crazy?
Speaker 1: Well, I have to ask you, John where Actually there's
Speaker 1: one more thing that So this was a two part
Speaker 1: and I was gonna not read the other part. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna save it from Shandy. But since we
Speaker 1: have a little bit of extra tibe and I know
Speaker 1: you guys will be pissed at me if I leave early,
Speaker 1: am gonna read this.
Speaker 2: Please do so. This is also from Shandy. She said.
Speaker 2: This is a scam that happened in her adult life.
Speaker 1: She says, I once worked with a woman who faked
Speaker 1: having cancer For four full months. She stopped coming to work.
Speaker 1: She said she was undergoing chemo treatments. She started wearing
Speaker 1: a head wrap and even waxed off her eyebrows. Now
Speaker 1: that's commitment. The employer paid all of her insurance premiums,
Speaker 1: so somehow they were able to check up on her progress,
Speaker 1: and once they got suspicious and discovered that she wasn't
Speaker 1: sick at all. She was just sitting at home collecting
Speaker 1: her VP level paycheck and waxing off her eyebrows.
Speaker 4: She so she pretended to have cancer just so she
Speaker 4: didn't have to go to work, like you know, like literally,
Speaker 4: just so she didn't have to go to work.
Speaker 5: First of all, people just call out sick. She's trying
Speaker 5: to call out it. How My question about a scam
Speaker 5: like that is like, how do you where?
Speaker 3: What was the end?
Speaker 2: Where was the exit?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, how'd you think you were going to get out
Speaker 2: of that? Like were you just gonna come back and
Speaker 2: like maybe like have short hair wigs and then like
Speaker 2: eventually have a long.
Speaker 4: Hair with You have to keep up this story literally
Speaker 4: for the rest of your the rest of your life,
Speaker 4: Like you have to keep.
Speaker 3: Telling people that you beat cancer and you never did.
Speaker 1: And this is a scam that I don't know if
Speaker 1: I commend this one, just because there's so many people
Speaker 1: who have this disease and cannot afford treatment, so it
Speaker 1: is really fucked. And also you're at a VP level position,
Speaker 1: which means that you've ascertained a certain amount of skills.
Speaker 3: If you don't like your job, just just quick.
Speaker 1: But you went and got you some nare and you
Speaker 1: went down to the black haircare store and got you
Speaker 1: some scarves.
Speaker 2: You probably got.
Speaker 4: It's also a lazy scam too. It's just like she
Speaker 4: just told people she had cancer and the waxy.
Speaker 3: Shaved her head.
Speaker 2: She didn't save her head. I think she just please
Speaker 2: just put her head in the head round. So then
Speaker 2: what are you doing when you're not at work with
Speaker 2: your ball face? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess she's this living her life.
Speaker 2: How do this? Man? What a boring person?
Speaker 1: This is trash like honestly, and you know I love scams,
Speaker 1: but I will have to condemn this scam just for me. Lazy,
Speaker 1: not inventive. There's a lack of ingenuity here, as you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a lack of forethought to
Speaker 1: the end goal, like what was gonna happen this?
Speaker 4: I also want if you're going to commit that hard
Speaker 4: to having cancer, like you gotta milk that for more than.
Speaker 2: Just four.
Speaker 1: She must be mioking at other places because otherwise, how
Speaker 1: is she going out? Like what is she going to
Speaker 1: bunko night and they're like, well.
Speaker 3: Do you think she continued the scam outside of that life?
Speaker 4: Do you think she got like, you know, people like
Speaker 4: buying her things or it's just feel sorry for her?
Speaker 3: She I mean, don't I don't know if she would need.
Speaker 1: This, but having eyebrows if you're not, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a nineteen year old frat boy, like, why don't
Speaker 1: you have eyebrows? Man?
Speaker 2: I'm like, people are going to ask, Yeah, I truly don't.
Speaker 1: Since I'm not here for this scam, I'm gonna condemn
Speaker 1: this scam, and maybe from here on out, maybe I
Speaker 1: will do one scam that I condemned, but this, this one.
Speaker 2: Is one that I definitely couldn't n that.
Speaker 1: Just to balance things out, I'm getting a lot of
Speaker 1: emails that are like, Lacy, you really motivated me to
Speaker 1: start doing fraud, and.
Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, oh, no, oh, the opposite of the
Speaker 3: Lord's work.
Speaker 1: Listen, don't put that on me, Okay, because anything a
Speaker 1: good scammer can manipulate any narrative to fit their own.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm distancing myself from this. I am I'm not
Speaker 4: a scam. I do not do these kinds of scams.
Speaker 3: Okay, these are petty, man. My scams are small.
Speaker 4: I go to Chipotle, I order some chips, I walk
Speaker 4: away from the counter, and I come back and I say,
Speaker 4: can I get a side of salsa? And then they
Speaker 4: give it to me for free. But if I had to,
Speaker 4: if I order chips and salsa, I have to pay
Speaker 4: an extra dollar for that.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
Speaker 3: See that's a little shortcut.
Speaker 2: Look at that.
Speaker 3: That's for everybody to know.
Speaker 4: You want chips and salsa, order chips, walk away from
Speaker 4: the count walk away.
Speaker 5: Now walk far, gotta walk, you gotta walk away, don't walk,
Speaker 5: don't walk, but I can still see you.
Speaker 2: And it turned around and.
Speaker 4: Then and then just come and then to come right
Speaker 4: back and say, actually, can I have a side of salsa?
Speaker 3: And they go, oh yeah, and what kind? And then
Speaker 3: you tell them what kind and they give you the
Speaker 3: side of salsa.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna up the scam.
Speaker 1: One, get the chips, walk away, shave off your eyebrows, come.
Speaker 4: Back, get the sauce, and they go, I have cancer,
Speaker 4: they just fell off, and then they give you a
Speaker 4: free burrito.
Speaker 1: I would appreciate that scam more than this woman's giving
Speaker 1: her job like this, But thank you so much, Shandy.
Speaker 1: You are a wealth of scam information. Guys, we've reached
Speaker 1: the end of the show. John, just have one question, Yes,
Speaker 1: where do you want to be found? I don't ask
Speaker 1: where we people can find you.
Speaker 2: I want to know where you want to be I.
Speaker 4: Like that because they could find me in places I
Speaker 4: don't want to be faked exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like my house. You can't find me.
Speaker 4: Or I would like you to find me on Twitter
Speaker 4: and Instagram at John Braylock, j O N b R
Speaker 4: a yloc K. My podcast of course, Blackman Can't Jump
Speaker 4: in Hollywood. Please listen to that on Apple or Spotify
Speaker 4: or wherever you listen to your podcasts.
Speaker 3: And of course this show Astronomy Club on Netflix, which.
Speaker 4: Depending on when this comes out, it comes out December sixth,
Speaker 4: So if it's past then go watch now. And if
Speaker 4: it's not past then then December six in your calendar.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, oh my god, that was such a
Speaker 2: good pluck. I love that.
Speaker 3: Guys.
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