WEBVTT - Big names, the weekend ahead and NFL Draft chatter | Texans All Access 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.040 What's up? Everybody? 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:03.520 Welcome into a Friday edition of Texans All Access from 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:07.320 the Hunted Texans Radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.000 of the Texans, Mark vandermir Mark Dan. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:11.240 God, it's Friday. How are you doing. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.840 Yeah, I'm doing great, Johnny Friday, indeed, and weird still 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.200 with no football during the weekend, but we have football 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.119 every night here at six o'clock, and you and I 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:20.720 are going to be at the Combine next week. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:21.480 Can't wait for that. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.360 I guess Monday we'll do a little combine best of stuff, 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:28.680 not really best of the year's past, but maybe our 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.639 combine memories. What's important about the Combine this year for 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.360 the Houston Texans. Can't wait for that, can't wait for 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:35.919 the whole thing, because. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.720 Everybody's fired up. Everybody I talked. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:41.760 To is already fired up. For twenty twenty four September. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.240 We have to kind of chill a little bit here, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.360 as difficult as that is, because I'm fired up. 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.400 Yeah, we are both fired up. There's no question fired 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.760 up to go to Indy. Love going to Indy. Just 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:58.400 put this on your radar screen on Tuesday, February twenty seven, Tuesday, 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:02.560 we will sit down with Demiko Ryans, so we will 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.880 have that Protections Radio for you that night. Wednesday night, 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.800 we will sit down with Nick Cassio. So Demiko Ryan's Tuesday, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.840 Nick Cassario. Wednesday. They will both meet with the media 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.800 that day and the last thing they will do before 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.480 they move on to the rest of their day is 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:23.120 sit with us and record, so we can have that 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:28.040 for you. So Tuesday, Demico Wednesday, Nick. But this is Friday, 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:28.920 so we got a little bit. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.720 I got a couple of other things to promote as well. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.040 Go ahead, all right, So I'm gonna sit down with 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.399 the other voices in the AFC South. This is an 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.759 exclusive club. Sorry, Johnny. Uh, I understand. Put the sock 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:40.280 on the door. 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:42.600 We're gonna do the Voices podcast. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:43.000 Yep. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.280 It's really my Keith that puts it together for the Titans, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.680 but we hijack the audio. I'll put it up here 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.720 at some point, So we're gonna do that. Uh. There's 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:54.000 also an ESPN so called draft Expert. Now this is 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.960 awkward for me because I don't know if you want 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.680 to be part of this or not. But he's booked 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:03.560 at a certain point on Wednesday. I think it's Jordan reed, Okay, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.040 he's not happy about it. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.160 I mean, okay, this is like you know, one on 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:09.760 one folks, you know what this is like. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.960 This is like telling your wife it's not as bad 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.720 as what you think I'm about to say. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:15.680 Who booked that for you? 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:16.800 It's just the ESPN. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.280 It's just like it's just like telling her, I'm gonna 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.600 go for a home cooked meal over in this house. Yep, Okay, 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.120 it's not as bad as what you thought I might say, but. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.200 It's kind of I guess it's kind of bad. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.799 I don't know, but I wanted to get in there 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.920 good graces because I'm trying to get some other guests 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.480 through them, so I wanted to say yes, you know, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.400 it's kind of it's like sales. I wanted to get 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.760 a little sale going and go for the bigger enchilada later. 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.119 So that'll be a one on one that you will 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.720 hear probably Thursday or Friday of of Combi Week. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.560 Jordan's okay, he's fine. You didn't say somebody else. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.919 While Johnny's catch you go with Brad Shad Voice of 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:57.399 the Cowboys by himself, We're gonna stray a little bit here. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.840 Well, I mean, I am gonna sit down with Matt Taylor, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.440 which I've done that every year, you know that. But well, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.079 we'll probably get the voices from around the NFC North. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.320 We typically catch up with Jeff Joniak and Paul Allen 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.840 and we play them this year, so it'll matter. So 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:13.240 there'll always be some surprise guests that really kind of 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.079 pop out of nowhere. One year, I think it was 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.239 last year. Last year was Max Stark's. Yeah, he sat 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:19.960 down with you. I came over. I was off watching 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.200 you know where such you know where I got him. Well, 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:23.480 I might have got him because. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.120 Their table was right on the other side of us. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:26.920 Yeah, I think I got him at the combine and 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:28.680 I also saw him at the owners meeting. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:28.960 Yep. 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.080 Yeah, good dude. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.120 You know whose cousin is. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.280 Yeah, you told me this. I didn't know that. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.360 No, I didn't either. He told He was the one 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:38.360 who told me. He gave me the whole recruiting story. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.480 Because for those people who don't know, Max Stark's offensive 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:45.240 lineman Pittsburgh Steelers for a long time did a tremendous 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.600 job of Steelers had gone to Florida before that, I 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.400 actually coached against in high school and he was six 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.080 eight three point fifty, the biggest individual I've ever seen, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.480 and I mean he is a massive individual, but you 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:01.240 talk about bright and smart and fun, huge, this great dude, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:01.920 great on the air. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.480 So Travis Johnson's cousin. 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.920 So I finally I get a chance to meet him, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.880 and I tell him about we coached I coached against you. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:11.680 I tell him some of the fun stories fro him 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:13.400 that I remember. They weren't that fuck because we got beat, 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:14.960 but just some funny stories looking back. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.120 And he was like, I remember some of this. So 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.480 we we chopped it up for a while. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.080 And so I asked him about being recruited at Florida 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.640 and he says, yeah, well, I don't know if you 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:24.359 know the whole story. 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.680 Do you know Travis Johnson. I'm like, do I know 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:27.240 trap Ja? 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:29.080 Yes I do, And so he gave me the whole 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.280 story about how they were supposed to go together, but 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.400 Max lived in Florida and Trapp lived in California, and 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.040 so the time difference kind of messed everything up, and 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.520 so Trapp just commits to Florest State. 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.800 Max thought they were both going to Florida. They wan 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:44.600 ended up Florest State. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:44.760 One. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:45.440 I went to Florida. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.920 Really interesting story to hear from the Max Stark side 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.880 of things. So yeah, Max Starks was last year as well, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.040 So we always have an interview like that that pops 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:54.640 up right, real fun. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.000 Great Casel will stop by. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.520 I'm sure, like you said, we'll get all the AFC 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.680 self voices, Frank Franjie, Matt Taylor, and Mike Keith. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:03.640 They'll be on. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.680 So we get all kinds of stuff from the combine, 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.960 So you definitely want to stay tune, not only next 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.920 week of the combine because we get so much stuff. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.080 Sometimes things get pushed, yeah, to the following week, so 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:18.640 that second week, as you start heading towards franchise tag 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.400 vill and getting ready for a free agency, you start 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:23.080 getting ready for that. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.200 So that leads me. Oh and then tonight to also 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:30.160 promo how we spend like five minutes promoink Indian Cecil. 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.000 We'll have that a little bit later. Got to listen 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.080 to the Texas og podcast. That's where you get the 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.640 full podcast. We'll have a snippet for you. And then 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.240 my former co host, our good friend, host of Texans 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.920 pre and post game, Sean Pendergast. Sports Radio six ten 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.919 will sound with Mark that'll be a little bit later 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:47.600 in the show to get Sean's thoughts and some of 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.080 the things happening in the NFL with the Texans and 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.280 all that going on. 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.000 But Mark, I'm gonna hit you with a number to 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:53.800 start out me. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:06:00.640 Okay, Now, it's kind of a seemingly random number. Thirty 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:06.200 four million, six hundred eight thousand, thirty four million, six 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.080 hundred and eight thousand. That could be a lot of things, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.520 a lot of things. But in your mind, can you 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.520 flash back to nineteen ninety four, think back nineteen ninety four. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.400 It's a long time ago, both of us NFL context 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.160 of nineteen ninety four, that was the first year that 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.599 the league had a salary cap. Wow, the salary cap 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:30.080 was thirty four million, six hundred eight thousand. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:35.200 Thirty four million, six hundred eight thousand. There are players 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.600 with that as their singular contract. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.360 More than that. More called and said that's not enough. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.200 Right now, I bring that up, thirty four million, six 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:45.960 hundred eight thousand. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.080 Keep that number of mind. Thy four million, six hundred 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:48.560 and eight thousand. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.719 I now give you two hundred and fifty five million, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.320 four hundred thousand. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:01.359 That is the twenty twenty four salary cap. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:02.200 You should be. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.200 Able to invest in the salary cap like it's a 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.240 fundah and be able to grow your money, right because. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:10.920 COVID would have got you, but you would have got 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.880 been fine after that, Oh yeah, COVID would have. COVID 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:17.520 got back, but not as bad as say real investments 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.240 like two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight meltdown 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.880 or y two k at least briefly in the last 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.200 few years until twenty twenty three. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:31.800 So there, that is awesome growth right there. The revenue streams. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.680 We just had the most viewed Super Bowl ever. The 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.720 league is doing so well and pre nineteen ninety four. 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.920 Nobody wants a history lesson, but this is worth mentioning. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.480 Somebody sent us a video. Who it was on our 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:49.800 Texans radio thread, the San Francisco forty nine Ers plane video. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.120 Oh yeah, yes, yes, who posted that on our time? 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.360 But it was interesting because I bring this up because 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.440 the forty nine ers in their heyday with Montana winning 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.679 Super Bowl Eddie de Bartolo, the owner of the team, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.240 would treat the players so well, yes that today that 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.080 stuff would be considered cap hits. Absolutely all right, you 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:17.720 cannot pay for their entire families to all go to Honolulu. Yeah, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.000 you can't do all that stuff. He would shower the 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:26.960 players with gifts, lavish experiences the team playing back in 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.040 those days. For back in those days, it was ridiculously 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.960 good and you could do some of those things. But 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.120 you can't do all of those things like he did. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.040 He got in a lot of trouble for it, or you. 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.440 Know, some of it retroactively. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.240 But you had people pointing this out as you went 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.880 into a cap era, that you cannot give benefits like that. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.079 Well, the the Oilers were one of the the opposite 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:55.880 of a beneficiary. They were hamstrung with the salary cap 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.440 because they had to release a number of veterans, including 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.840 warm Moon at the time, because they would have been. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.719 Well over the salary cap. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.160 I mean that's even that nineteen ninety three season of 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:06.559 the Turmoil season. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.719 They had all kinds of players with money and they 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:14.760 just had to start siphoning players off and away you go. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.600 You know, I got on the sidelines to twenty fourteen. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.400 This past year was my tenth year on the sideline. 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.679 It's going until eleven, twenty fourteen. The cap is one 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.920 hundred and thirty three million, dollars in ten years, it's 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:36.760 nearly doubled. Yeah, that's unbelievable. In nearly ten years, it 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.280 has doubled. In the thirty years since it started in 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:47.240 nineteen ninety four, it has gone eight times higher than 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.480 the thirty four thousand, six hundred thirty four million, six 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:50.720 hundred eight thousand and started with. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.040 So the cap is based on revenue, right, you get 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.280 a percentage of the revenue. Correct, players are only over 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.680 fifty percent of the gross revenue. But there's some ifs 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.120 in the there's some there's some gray area and then 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.200 but anyway, go with me on this. Think about how 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.040 television has changed in the last ten years. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.760 That's true, and that's the big that's the probably the 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:11.679 biggest driver of. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.480 All of this. We've got into a streaming era. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.479 We've gotten to the point where to the TV networks, 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.720 the most valuable thing by far, and it was then too, 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.720 is NFL football, but it's gotten even more valuable to them. 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.640 It's the one thing that can get eyeballs no matter what. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.680 And streaming too. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.679 Look what happened with Peacock when they streamed the playoff game, 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.080 the most streamed event in history. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.079 So you know where we're going with this. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.720 The league is so immensely popular, way more popular than 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.120 the other sports, way. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.520 More popular than anything. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.360 Else other than Taylor Swift now, way more popular than 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.839 anything else. So it's going to get the top dollar 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.440 and they can leverage, negotiate, do whatever they need to 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.840 do to keep upping the anti from the TV networks 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.480 and whoever else is giving them money, gaming companies, et cetera. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.400 One reason I brought this up, We'll get that in 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:01.920 a second. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:07.240 But Tom Pealosara tweeted this, NFL not today salary cap 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.000 will be two hundred and fifty five point four million 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:13.760 per club, with an additional seventy four million dollars per 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.560 club payment for player benefits, which includes performance based pay 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:23.720 and benefits for retired players. That's huge, That's pretty awesome. 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.560 It was an un When the NFL put out statement, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.680 it said that quote an unprecedented thirty million dollar increase 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.079 per club in this year's salary cap is the result 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.800 of the full repayment of all amounts advanced by the 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.000 clubs and deferred by the players during the COVID pandemic, 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.920 as well as an extraordinary increase in media revenue for 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.040 the twenty twenty four season. It should have followed with 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.360 thank you bezos, because that was a pretty that's a 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:55.720 pretty darn big number. And apparently Amazon's going to stream 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.040 a playoff game and I think it's one hundred and 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.280 fifty million for one playoff game. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.160 Well, what happens to the peacock game? I'm not sure 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:04.640 about that. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.439 Yeah, I don't know about that at that story, does 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:07.600 does one replace the other? 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:07.880 Now? 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.319 How does this all become relevant? 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:10.640 Okay? 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.439 I know what a lot of people are gonna say, Well, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.160 you got the money, spend it. They're giving it to you, 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.640 Go spend it. You have sixty nine seventy million dollars 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.920 a cap space. We've talked about, you know, those those 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:24.920 sort of things. But I want to bring up this 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:29.360 because what also came with the salary cap was the 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:34.680 setting of the franchise tag. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:39.520 Yeah, because I think those numbers end up becoming really 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:44.360 interesting because of the players the Texans have that are 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.640 free agents. Because I after I saw these, I went, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:52.480 wait a second, I might I might think about franchising 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.559 that particular play. Oh yeah, so I looked at it 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.520 and went, now, a couple of them. I don't know 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.240 that I will, but a few of them. I looked 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.360 at it and went, I think I might think about this. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.120 So here we go. Franchise tag amounts. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:13.079 I'm gonna give you first of all, first position defensive end, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:14.680 all right, so that would be Grenard. 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:19.440 Okay, the tag cost is twenty one point three million. 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 Now you hear that and you go, oh boy, that's 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:24.080 a lot of money. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.000 No, No, that doesn't sound like crazybody to me. For 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.720 a really highly skilled defensive end. He backs up double 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.360 digit sacks. Very reasonable as a matter of fact. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:38.560 Considering Brian Burns wants thirty per Yeah, what I mean 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:42.280 between one point three I mean, you franchise a guy 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.839 and you try and figure out what's gonna be your 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:50.360 long term you know, situation. But that buys you some 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.640 time to be able to negotiate even further all that 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.040 kind of stuff. But you at least we have the 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.520 one year for twenty one point three million. That was 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:58.120 the first one that stood up to me. I was like, well, 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.240 that's not I know, people are so listen. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.480 You have to take what we just talked about and 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.520 now move your thinking ahead a little bit. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.920 Yeah, you got to move your thinking ahead a little bit, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:10.560 all right, So for. 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:12.200 Those who don't know though, because there are a lot 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.640 of people listening. I hear franchise tager, I know what 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.959 it means. What it means is it takes them off 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.800 the market relative for one year. Yeah, it takes them 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.880 off the market. Now, other teams could possibly trade for 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.800 that franchise player, correct, but they have to give you 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.160 a max. It doesn't have to be a minimum, a 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.760 maximum of two first round picks, and they get the player. Right, 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.280 and they have to get the player, they have to 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.520 pay the player the contract. Now, the contract amount is 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.200 the average of the top five salaries at that position. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:46.800 The franchise tag is the top five. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.880 The franchise tag amount. When you do tag a player, 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.000 the sporting thing is it means you're trying to negotiate 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.920 a long term deal, but you want more time to 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.480 do it, and you want to take them off the 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.960 market to do it so you can arrive at that conclusion. 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:04.960 At the very least, you're gonna get that player for 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.360 that year. Now, they did this with Jadeveon Clowney, and 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.440 a lot of people were complaining at the time, people 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.240 meeting outsiders saying, are you really interested in signing him 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.400 long term? Right? They ended up trading him, right. So 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.560 with a player like Jonathan Grenard, I suppose. I mean, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.120 it's always an option with an unrestricted free agent, So 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.280 it's an option for him and. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.520 We'll see if they do it or not. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.880 Usually it means hopefully that you're trying to negotiate a 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.040 long term deal before you tag them. You can't come 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.000 up with the agreements you're gonna tag them, take more time. 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:38.800 It does take him out of the mix. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.360 That means the Falcons or whoever else can't come up 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.520 and offer him a deal without making that trade for you. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.720 Yeah, and they're exclusive franchise tags non exclusive, so with 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.040 the exclusive it's up to you guys to come up 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.200 with a deal. If not the player signs this franchise tag, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.840 you have him for one year and then you move on. 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:58.400 If you get the. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.080 Non exclusive, that was what Lamar Jackson was tagged with. 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.200 He had the opportunity to kind of go out there 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.280 and see what was out there in the market and 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.120 see what was available and see if there was a 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:09.800 team that was willing to give up the two first 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.880 round picks and then sign Lamar. Looking back, there are 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:14.680 probably a few teams that would say, man I wish 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.880 we would have done it. I think all teams thought, Okay, 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.720 we're negotiating good faith, but yeah, we got a feeling 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.840 that whatever he gets from us, he's going to take 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:24.360 back to the Ravens. The Ravens are going to match 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.560 it and the way they go. So we're essentially doing 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.280 all the negotiating for the Ravens. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.760 Wasting time in the process. Absolutely. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.040 So the one year franchise tag costs for a defensive 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.200 end will be twenty one point three That caught my attention, Like, 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:39.800 in a second, that might be that might be something. 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.520 To what about tight end? Johnny, do you have the 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.480 number for two? And I'm glad you brought that up 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.200 because that was the next place. Okay, because there's a. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.720 Certain tight end who's slated to become an unrestricted free 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:48.200 agent here. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.440 That would be Dalton Schultz. So what do you got? 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:54.400 Franchise tag cost is twelve point seven million dollars. Yeah. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.640 See, that's another one where you're thinking, Okay, if we 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.680 can't come up with an agreement, presuming they want to 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.600 resign him, that's a thought. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.160 That's a thought right there. And then obviously something that 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:03.960 you brought that up. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.280 It's like of course, all of what we're talking about 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.000 is assuming the team would like to have these players back. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.119 We're hoping they do, but you just never know. But 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:13.720 you're right, that is a big factor. And it's twelve 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.280 point seven million dollars. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:16.719 Would you do it? 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.480 Look, I would come up with an agreement with him 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.800 for that, maybe, you know, like. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.119 A three year thirty seven million dollars. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.360 Here's the other side off, and they want more than that. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.520 They want more than the average of the top five 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.520 they feel like. And They'm just generalizing here because I 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.560 don't know what these guys are thinking individually, and I 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.320 don't know what Nick's thinking. I see Nick all the 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.480 time in the hallways. He doesn't stop me usually and say, Manny, 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:40.320 what do you think of this? 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:42.560 Who we should franchise? 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:47.040 No, he does not do that, And if he did, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.200 I would say, ah, it's up to you, because it's 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.280 not my hide on the line here with all this stuff. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.639 One of the things to keep in mind with a 0:17:55.680 --> 0:18:01.320 franchise tag, it's a tag. It's one you don't get tagged, like, hey, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.000 we're gonna tag these four guys. No, you get you one. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.200 If you pick Grenard, nobody else can be fant gut 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.000 feeling here because are those the two? Is there anybody 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.760 else you would you do it with Nelson at corner? 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:13.439 Probably not. 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.959 That's kind of the corner. The corner corner number nineteen 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.520 point eight million. See, that's that's a big chunk of change. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.520 That's that's uh, that's rich. Corners are valuable, but that's 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.000 a big chunk. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:24.320 Anyway. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.720 Running back, that's a big chunk. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:26.240 Now. 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:32.000 Running back eleven point nine twelve million, twelve million a 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.600