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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Friday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hunted Texans Radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice

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Speaker 2: of the Texans, Mark vandermir Mark Dan.

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Speaker 1: God, it's Friday. How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing great, Johnny Friday, indeed, and weird still

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Speaker 3: with no football during the weekend, but we have football

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Speaker 3: every night here at six o'clock, and you and I

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Speaker 3: are going to be at the Combine next week.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 3: I guess Monday we'll do a little combine best of stuff,

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Speaker 3: not really best of the year's past, but maybe our

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Speaker 3: combine memories. What's important about the Combine this year for

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Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. Can't wait for that, can't wait for

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Speaker 3: the whole thing, because.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's fired up. Everybody I talked.

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Speaker 3: To is already fired up. For twenty twenty four September.

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Speaker 3: We have to kind of chill a little bit here,

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Speaker 3: as difficult as that is, because I'm fired up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are both fired up. There's no question fired

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Speaker 2: up to go to Indy. Love going to Indy. Just

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Speaker 2: put this on your radar screen on Tuesday, February twenty seven, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: we will sit down with Demiko Ryans, so we will

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Speaker 2: have that Protections Radio for you that night. Wednesday night,

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Speaker 2: we will sit down with Nick Cassio. So Demiko Ryan's Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Nick Cassario. Wednesday. They will both meet with the media

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Speaker 2: that day and the last thing they will do before

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Speaker 2: they move on to the rest of their day is

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Speaker 2: sit with us and record, so we can have that

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Speaker 2: for you. So Tuesday, Demico Wednesday, Nick. But this is Friday,

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Speaker 2: so we got a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I got a couple of other things to promote as well.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, So I'm gonna sit down with

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Speaker 3: the other voices in the AFC South. This is an

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Speaker 3: exclusive club. Sorry, Johnny. Uh, I understand. Put the sock

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Speaker 3: on the door.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do the Voices podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It's really my Keith that puts it together for the Titans,

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Speaker 3: but we hijack the audio. I'll put it up here

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Speaker 3: at some point, So we're gonna do that. Uh. There's

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Speaker 3: also an ESPN so called draft Expert. Now this is

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Speaker 3: awkward for me because I don't know if you want

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Speaker 3: to be part of this or not. But he's booked

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Speaker 3: at a certain point on Wednesday. I think it's Jordan reed, Okay,

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Speaker 3: he's not happy about it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, okay, this is like you know, one on

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Speaker 2: one folks, you know what this is like.

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Speaker 3: This is like telling your wife it's not as bad

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Speaker 3: as what you think I'm about to say.

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Speaker 1: Who booked that for you?

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Speaker 4: It's just the ESPN.

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Speaker 3: It's just like it's just like telling her, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go for a home cooked meal over in this house. Yep, Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not as bad as what you thought I might say, but.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of I guess it's kind of bad.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I wanted to get in there

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Speaker 3: good graces because I'm trying to get some other guests

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Speaker 3: through them, so I wanted to say yes, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of it's like sales. I wanted to get

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Speaker 3: a little sale going and go for the bigger enchilada later.

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Speaker 2: So that'll be a one on one that you will

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Speaker 2: hear probably Thursday or Friday of of Combi Week.

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Speaker 4: Jordan's okay, he's fine. You didn't say somebody else.

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Speaker 3: While Johnny's catch you go with Brad Shad Voice of

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys by himself, We're gonna stray a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I am gonna sit down with Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 2: which I've done that every year, you know that. But well,

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Speaker 2: we'll probably get the voices from around the NFC North.

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Speaker 2: We typically catch up with Jeff Joniak and Paul Allen

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Speaker 2: and we play them this year, so it'll matter. So

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Speaker 2: there'll always be some surprise guests that really kind of

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Speaker 2: pop out of nowhere. One year, I think it was

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Speaker 2: last year. Last year was Max Stark's. Yeah, he sat

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Speaker 2: down with you. I came over. I was off watching

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Speaker 2: you know where such you know where I got him. Well,

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Speaker 2: I might have got him because.

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Speaker 4: Their table was right on the other side of us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I got him at the combine and

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Speaker 3: I also saw him at the owners meeting.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good dude.

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Speaker 1: You know whose cousin is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you told me this. I didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't either. He told He was the one

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Speaker 2: who told me. He gave me the whole recruiting story.

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Speaker 2: Because for those people who don't know, Max Stark's offensive

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Speaker 2: and I mean he is a massive individual, but you

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Speaker 2: talk about bright and smart and fun, huge, this great dude,

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Speaker 2: great on the air.

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Speaker 4: So Travis Johnson's cousin.

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Speaker 2: So I finally I get a chance to meet him,

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Speaker 2: and I tell him about we coached I coached against you.

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Speaker 4: And he was like, I remember some of this. So

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Speaker 2: And so I asked him about being recruited at Florida

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Speaker 2: and he says, yeah, well, I don't know if you

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Speaker 4: Do you know Travis Johnson. I'm like, do I know

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Speaker 2: Yes I do, And so he gave me the whole

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Speaker 2: Max lived in Florida and Trapp lived in California, and

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Speaker 2: so Trapp just commits to Florest State.

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Speaker 4: Max thought they were both going to Florida. They wan

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Speaker 4: ended up Florest State.

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Speaker 4: I went to Florida.

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Speaker 2: Really interesting story to hear from the Max Stark side

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Speaker 2: of things. So yeah, Max Starks was last year as well,

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Speaker 2: So we always have an interview like that that pops

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Speaker 2: up right, real fun.

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Speaker 1: Great Casel will stop by.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, like you said, we'll get all the AFC

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Speaker 2: self voices, Frank Franjie, Matt Taylor, and Mike Keith.

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Speaker 1: They'll be on.

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Speaker 2: So we get all kinds of stuff from the combine,

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Speaker 2: So you definitely want to stay tune, not only next

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Speaker 4: So that leads me. Oh and then tonight to also

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Speaker 4: promo how we spend like five minutes promoink Indian Cecil.

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Speaker 2: We'll have that a little bit later. Got to listen

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Speaker 2: to the Texas og podcast. That's where you get the

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Speaker 2: full podcast. We'll have a snippet for you. And then

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Speaker 2: my former co host, our good friend, host of Texans

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Speaker 2: pre and post game, Sean Pendergast. Sports Radio six ten

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Speaker 2: will sound with Mark that'll be a little bit later

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Speaker 2: in the show to get Sean's thoughts and some of

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Speaker 2: all that going on.

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Speaker 4: But Mark, I'm gonna hit you with a number to

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Speaker 4: start out me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, it's kind of a seemingly random number. Thirty

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Speaker 2: a lot of things. But in your mind, can you

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Speaker 4: It's a long time ago, both of us NFL context

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Speaker 4: of nineteen ninety four, that was the first year that

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Speaker 4: the league had a salary cap. Wow, the salary cap

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Speaker 4: was thirty four million, six hundred eight thousand.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four million, six hundred eight thousand. There are players

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Speaker 4: More than that. More called and said that's not enough.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I bring that up, thirty four million, six

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Speaker 4: That is the twenty twenty four salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Able to invest in the salary cap like it's a

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Speaker 4: COVID would have got you, but you would have got

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Speaker 4: been fine after that, Oh yeah, COVID would have. COVID

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Speaker 3: So there, that is awesome growth right there. The revenue streams.

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Speaker 3: We just had the most viewed Super Bowl ever. The

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants a history lesson, but this is worth mentioning.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, yes, who posted that on our time?

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Speaker 3: stuff would be considered cap hits. Absolutely all right, you

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Speaker 3: cannot pay for their entire families to all go to Honolulu. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can't do all that stuff. He would shower the

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Speaker 3: players with gifts, lavish experiences the team playing back in

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Speaker 3: those days. For back in those days, it was ridiculously

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Speaker 3: you can't do all of those things like he did.

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Speaker 3: He got in a lot of trouble for it, or you.

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Speaker 4: Know, some of it retroactively.

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Speaker 3: But you had people pointing this out as you went

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Speaker 3: into a cap era, that you cannot give benefits like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, the the Oilers were one of the the opposite

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Speaker 2: of a beneficiary. They were hamstrung with the salary cap

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Speaker 2: because they had to release a number of veterans, including

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Speaker 1: Well over the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's even that nineteen ninety three season of

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Speaker 3: the Turmoil season.

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Speaker 2: They had all kinds of players with money and they

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Speaker 2: just had to start siphoning players off and away you go.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got on the sidelines to twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: This past year was my tenth year on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: It's going until eleven, twenty fourteen. The cap is one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three million, dollars in ten years, it's

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Speaker 2: nearly doubled. Yeah, that's unbelievable. In nearly ten years, it

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Speaker 2: has doubled. In the thirty years since it started in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, it has gone eight times higher than

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Speaker 2: the thirty four thousand, six hundred thirty four million, six

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Speaker 3: So the cap is based on revenue, right, you get

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Speaker 3: a percentage of the revenue. Correct, players are only over

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of the gross revenue. But there's some ifs

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Speaker 3: in the there's some there's some gray area and then

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Speaker 3: but anyway, go with me on this. Think about how

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Speaker 3: television has changed in the last ten years.

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Speaker 4: All of this. We've got into a streaming era.

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Speaker 4: So you know where we're going with this.

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Speaker 3: The league is so immensely popular, way more popular than

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Speaker 2: It was an un When the NFL put out statement,

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Speaker 4: Go spend it. You have sixty nine seventy million dollars

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think those numbers end up becoming really

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Speaker 2: So here we go. Franchise tag amounts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the tag cost is twenty one point three million.

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Speaker 3: No, No, that doesn't sound like crazybody to me. For

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Speaker 2: Considering Brian Burns wants thirty per Yeah, what I mean

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Speaker 4: You have to take what we just talked about and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to move your thinking ahead a little bit,

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Speaker 3: it means. What it means is it takes them off

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Speaker 4: The franchise tag is the top five.

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Speaker 3: The franchise tag amount. When you do tag a player,

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Speaker 3: long term? Right? They ended up trading him, right. So

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Speaker 3: with a player like Jonathan Grenard, I suppose. I mean,

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Speaker 4: We'll see if they do it or not.

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Speaker 3: Usually it means hopefully that you're trying to negotiate a

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Speaker 4: It does take him out of the mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're exclusive franchise tags non exclusive, so with

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Speaker 2: Non exclusive, that was what Lamar Jackson was tagged with.

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Speaker 2: we would have done it. I think all teams thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're negotiating good faith, but yeah, we got a feeling

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Speaker 2: that whatever he gets from us, he's going to take

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Speaker 2: back to the Ravens. The Ravens are going to match

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Speaker 4: Wasting time in the process. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So the one year franchise tag costs for a defensive

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Speaker 4: To what about tight end? Johnny, do you have the

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Speaker 4: number for two? And I'm glad you brought that up

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Speaker 3: Certain tight end who's slated to become an unrestricted free

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Speaker 4: That would be Dalton Schultz. So what do you got?

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Speaker 4: Franchise tag cost is twelve point seven million dollars. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: See, that's another one where you're thinking, Okay, if we

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Speaker 4: That's a thought right there. And then obviously something that

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Speaker 4: you brought that up.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping they do, but you just never know. But

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Speaker 2: point seven million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Would you do it?

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Speaker 3: Look, I would come up with an agreement with him

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Speaker 4: A three year thirty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Who we should franchise?

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Speaker 2: we're gonna tag these four guys. No, you get you one.

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Speaker 2: If you pick Grenard, nobody else can be fant gut

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Speaker 4: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the corner. The corner corner number nineteen

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I I mean, I do feel like, depending on what

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Speaker 2: For some reason, the NFL just has that kind of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because of eleven and changes. The average of the

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Speaker 3: Henry would say I set the market at the top five.

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Speaker 3: Barkley can claim no better than second in that. I

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Speaker 4: If you could guarantee health.

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Speaker 2: Three years forty three million dollars with the Indianapolis Colts.

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Speaker 2: a bell Cow number one running back. Yeah, top three

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Speaker 2: in the league three years, forty three million dollars.

442
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Speaker 1: And I've asked the question before.

443
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 2: Now knowing that the franchise tag is twelve point seven,

444
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Speaker 2: and you wouldn't put a franchise tag on on motor

445
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 2: at that rate, I don't think no, But just to

446
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: give you kind of a gauge, I think that thirteen

447
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: million dollars is about right where you know, kind of

448
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Speaker 2: where you're gonna have to pay for, you know, a

449
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Speaker 2: so called premium.

450
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: For Jacobs Henry Barkley thirteen to fourteen.

451
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Speaker 4: I thinks, yea exactly. I think that's what you look

452
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,439
Speaker 4: at that per year.

453
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Speaker 2: Now again, once you get a long term contract, you

454
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 2: can structure that contract where you're taking cap pits however

455
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 2: you want spread the bonus out. You can front load it,

456
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: backload it with cap pit whatever you want to do.

457
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 2: Most times you backload it, you know, so you take

458
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: a lighter cap hit now, so you could satisfy things

459
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: and you pay the credit card bill later. We know

460
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: teams that have kicked that cane down the road and

461
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 2: now it's coming back to bite them a little bit.

462
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: Quarterback, I know that's not in our Before.

463
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 4: You get to quarterback, what do you have inside linebacker?

464
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Speaker 2: Okay, this is interesting because I thought the NFL was

465
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: going to change this. But they were going to change this.

466
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Speaker 2: They have linebacker at twenty four million dollars. What now

467
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 2: that seems to.

468
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Speaker 3: Be that's outside linebacker, pass rusher, top linebacker.

469
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Speaker 2: I know exactly, so that's I thought they were going

470
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Speaker 2: to separate those.

471
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Speaker 1: But I guess, but does.

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Speaker 3: Anybody ever franchise an inside linebacker a middle linebacker?

473
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Speaker 4: Does it happen?

474
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Speaker 3: It must, but I probably don't the of my head,

475
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: right it's all it's all in their cars right now,

476
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: thinking of what about no call.

477
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Speaker 4: In just kidding?

478
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, twenty four million, it's the second rate one,

479
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: but it's not it's not separate and it's not separated,

480
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I don't know why.

481
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be great if you could use cap room

483
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Speaker 3: that you have today sort of a what's the college

484
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 3: fund called? What's that number on the state college fund

485
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Speaker 3: where you're saving up for your kids college education. Oh,

486
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Speaker 3: five thirty five, I want to say, yeah, yeah, yeah,

487
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Speaker 3: five thirty eight, Yeah, something something like that. All right,

488
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 3: so you use that against the cap? Now, can we

489
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: put away a few million a year on the cap

490
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Speaker 3: for CJ's contract.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, like, use ten million dollars of cap this year,

492
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Speaker 2: ten dollars or ten million dollars a cap room next

493
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Speaker 2: year so that you can have twenty or thirty applied?

494
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Speaker 4: Do I like the way you're thinking?

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Speaker 3: By the way, how quarter nine it's the five to

496
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Speaker 3: club thirty eight is the is the website that's close?

497
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Speaker 1: Uh, just to.

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Speaker 4: Kind of give you an idea.

499
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Speaker 2: Quarterback franchise tag now, I don't believe that any quarterback

500
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: will get franchised. Your unrestricted free agents are Ryan Tannehill,

501
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, Jacoby Brissett. I don't think anybody's getting a

502
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: franchise tag at thirty eight million. I mean, kirk Cousins

503
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: has had it before, but I don't think it carries

504
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Speaker 2: over to.

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Speaker 1: A new one much.

506
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Speaker 3: Tua going into year five three, Yeah, he's going into

507
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Speaker 3: year five, So they got to make the decision. They're

508
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: going to tag him, obviously, because you don't have to.

509
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: But you have to decide whether you want him pass

510
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: this year, and do you just go ahead and play

511
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Speaker 3: out that fifth and let him hit the market.

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Speaker 4: Then you tag him next year, though, I mean a lot.

513
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: My guess is to his agent's going to ask for

514
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: whatever Justin Herbert got, whatever Joe Burrow got, And I

515
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: know that the Dolphins come back with Burrow went to

516
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Yeah, but what about Justin Herbert? I

517
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: mean Tua. Tua's done more than Justin Herbert's done. I

518
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: think it's pretty close. I mean, one went to the

519
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: playoff and lost the wildcard. One went to the playoff, lost

520
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: the wildcard. I don't know yet.

521
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Speaker 3: People have more faith in Herbert seemingly, and I know

522
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: he got hurt this year, but Tua until this year

523
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: had not been able to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, thirty eight point three million dollars, Hey, franch

525
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna franchise to a Tonguo at loa. I I mean,

526
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Speaker 2: I'd much rather if I'm the Dolphins, I'd much rather

527
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Speaker 2: extend him. Let's go four for one sixty eight, that's

528
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Speaker 2: forty two per he say yes to it. I guess

529
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: maybe not.

530
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Speaker 3: You want to know a troubling number for Tua this

531
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Speaker 3: past season, fourteen interceptions.

532
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's but at least that number was higher than

533
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Speaker 2: the concussion number, which is good because you didn't have

534
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Speaker 2: I don't think you had a concussion this year, which

535
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Speaker 2: is I mean, seriously, it's good you didn't have that concussion.

536
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Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody, I mean, would Tua take

537
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: four one sixty eight, No, probably not so at that point,

538
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Speaker 2: she continued, going, you're like five at two fifteen. I mean,

539
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: if you're the if you're the Dolphins, you're like, yeah,

540
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: we're just gonna play us on the fifty.

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Speaker 3: Para Johnny, I bet they sign him. They sign him,

542
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Speaker 3: They find a way to come to an agreement with them.

543
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Speaker 3: They don't want to go through quarterback on certainty going

544
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Speaker 3: into twenty twenty five, they're going to sign to him.

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00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: They come up with that agreement.

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Speaker 5: That one.

547
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Speaker 4: We have to keep track of our predictions, because.

548
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Speaker 3: Will be if I bet never mind bat if I

549
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 3: throw for a sixty three percent completion clip on my predictions,

550
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: that's pretty good.

551
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if.

552
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Speaker 2: You're right, they wouldn't tall, you wouldn't tag two this year,

553
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: you would.

554
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: Extend him, you'd extend him. He's going into year five.

555
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Speaker 2: His cap hit this year's nine point six million. I

556
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: might try, and I'm not really try and squeeze.

557
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: One more year out of him, but this is me.

558
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 4: Well, squeeze one more year, but then you're risk kidding

559
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: the market or.

560
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: Having a tame back. My bad, my bad, I read

561
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Speaker 2: the wrong year. His base salary is twenty three million.

562
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Speaker 5: Go to this year.

563
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Speaker 4: That makes more sense.

564
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Speaker 2: So I still probably make him play on that twenty

565
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: three million dollars and risk whatever on certainity you have

566
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: coming next year.

567
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can tag him.

568
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's messy, as Lamar like, you don't

569
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: want that kind of off season.

570
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Speaker 1: But are you sold?

571
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Speaker 4: I just don't think you give a guy an extension

572
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: until you're fully.

573
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Speaker 3: Maybe they come to an agreement because they feel giants.

574
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 2: You think the giants are happy with looking back and

575
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: Brian Dable, No, you're happy to give Daniel Jones that contract?

576
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: He'll know and two has been better than Daniel Jones.

577
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

578
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: I too, I'm what I might do. Let's see if

579
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: we can get him extended. Let's give him this contract

580
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: offer and see what he says. He says no to that, Well,

581
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: let's cool off. We'll back off.

582
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 3: And to say, all right, who tweeted the stack comparison

583
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: between Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones and eye popping. In fact,

584
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: Jones looked almost as good in every throwing category and

585
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: he blew him away obviously in the rushing yards.

586
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, category, that was pretty interesting.

587
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: But Jones can't stay healthy. That's a big That's exactly right.

588
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: He can't stay healthy, and that is a bad thing.

589
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: What's not a bad thing? Our two good friends, Indie

590
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 3: Kalou and Cecil Shorts. That's next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 2: Look back to Friday edition of Texans All Access from

592
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Speaker 2: I'm not at Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host John Harris,

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00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter, and as I teased, the Texas

594
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: Og podcast by Indie Kalu is a wonderful listen and

595
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: this week had a little Cecil Shorts stopping by. Here's

596
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: a little snippet app podcast between two of my favorite

597
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: Texas legends, Indie Kalu and Cecil Shorts.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, take it away.

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00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 7: The Houston Texans, our former team, very very entertaining during

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Speaker 7: the season. I always call this the tough part if

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Speaker 7: you're a general manager, if you're a head coach, because

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00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 7: when you have the type of season you have with

603
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Speaker 7: the Texans this past year, you fall in love with

604
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 7: so many players. There are so many players that helped

605
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 7: them exceed expectations. What do you think as a guy

606
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Speaker 7: that played quarterback, as a guy that played wide receiver,

607
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 7: as a guy that played on the defensive side of

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Speaker 7: the ball, that understands the entire game, what do you

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Speaker 7: think is the biggest need? What is the one position

610
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Speaker 7: group that you feel like the Texans should focus on

611
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 7: this offseason.

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00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 5: Ooh, indeed, that's a tough one. It is. That's a

613
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 5: tough one.

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna do this, and it may be cheating,

615
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 6: but I look back at I look at the head coach, Dimiko, Right,

616
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 6: where'd he come from? He come from? He came from

617
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 6: the San Franisco for the Niners. What did they do

618
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 6: in the draft when he was there? They went on

619
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Speaker 6: and got Joey Bosa, They down got Eric Armstead, they

620
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 6: went out and traded for the Forest Buckner.

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Speaker 5: Like they take pride in.

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00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 6: Their defensive line, and if I'm honest, their defensive line

623
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 6: showed up and showed out last week.

624
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: Yes, they showed up and showed.

625
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 6: Out like the defense did their part of my humble opinion,

626
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 6: it's only so much you can do to snow down

627
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 6: Pat Mahomes.

628
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 5: There's only so much you can do without helping him

629
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Speaker 5: on offense.

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Speaker 6: Right, So I look, I look at the d line

631
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Speaker 6: probably for how he wants to be old as team.

632
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 6: I look at that as probably the most important part.

633
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: Now there's other important parts, but you need some true

634
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 6: dogs in that interior defensive line and that detackle mode

635
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: right that can that can be a possibly maybe a

636
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 6: pass rusher or a guy that can fill a gap.

637
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 6: And you're completely stopping to run right because to me,

638
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 6: even if you signed Grenard back, say you got garnered

639
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 6: and will Will Anderson, ju, you're great. What about that

640
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 6: interior defensive guys. So I think that's gonna be huge,

641
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 6: and that's gonna make him comfortable as a head coach,

642
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 6: uncomfortabley a defensive play caller, like, Hey, I'm starting to

643
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: build my defense up from that line on back, right,

644
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 6: And I think that's honestly, if you look at today's game,

645
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 6: it's built around the quarterback. So how do you affect

646
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 6: the quarterback, well, you get pressure on the quarterback. How

647
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 6: do you get pressure on the quarterback? Your defensive line

648
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 6: has to be stout. They have to know their role,

649
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 6: know what's going on now. So I would say d

650
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 6: line is one, But I also think cornerback is.

651
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 5: A big one.

652
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 6: I think cornerback is huge. I think running back is huge.

653
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 6: Now how do you address those?

654
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Speaker 5: I don't know. It depends what you want to do.

655
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Speaker 6: I think you should make a big splash, but you

656
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 6: gotta be careful with that splash, as you know, you

657
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 6: got to be the right fit for what's going on.

658
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 6: It's interesting like their position now in the where nobody

659
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 6: wanted to come here in free agency a year ago

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00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 6: this time last year, ain't nobody trying to come here

661
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 6: now with Demiko, with CJ, with the season they had.

662
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 6: You have your choice and you have the money. You

663
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 6: have your choice to bring in whoever you want. But

664
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 6: you have to be particular because what Demico and Nick

665
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 6: are and the McNair's are building, the culture they're having,

666
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 6: it has to be the right fit. It can just

667
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 6: be a great talent, it got to be a right

668
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 6: fit for what this organization and what they're trying to do.

669
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 6: Otherwise you can mess things up, right, you know how

670
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 6: you know personally how one toxic guy can just be

671
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: contagious and the wrong way and can ruin the locker room.

672
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 5: Right. But I would say D line is number one.

673
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 6: I would say corner and running back maybe two, aay

674
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 6: and two.

675
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 7: And to be what's tough about that question, Especially when

676
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 7: you're as close to the team as we are. People

677
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 7: take that as a knock. It's not a knock against

678
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 7: any individual player that's currently a defensive lineman. But that's

679
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 7: why I love the fact you brought up what San

680
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 7: Francisco did. It's not about saying, oh, it's the D

681
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 7: line because those guys aren't aren't playing well. It's more,

682
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 7: you can never have too many defensive linemen. You can

683
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 7: never as a guy that you know, most of my

684
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 7: twelve year career, most of the years I was considered

685
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 7: a second string player, but a role player because we

686
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 7: just put different.

687
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 5: Waves of pass rushers out there.

688
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 7: So yeah, I don't care how great you're starting for

689
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 7: or when you talk about defensive line, you could always

690
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 7: have you know, big studs that are backing up Will

691
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 7: Anderson backing up Jonathan Grenard. They if they're able to

692
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 7: bring them, because you need those fresh pass rushers.

693
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 6: Tell me, oh, you just said it. Tell me how

694
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 6: important that is? Like, tell me how important? You know

695
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: how hard it? Tell me how hard it is to

696
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 6: stop when you played right, a fresh pass rusher.

697
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 5: The tackles, we're not rotating tackles on offense, right.

698
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 6: You're taking guards and the center on offense. So you

699
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 6: got one guy coming at you, it's third down. You're

700
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: bringing a whole fresh guy at his job is to

701
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 6: bring pressure. Please tell us and everybody like, how important?

702
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 6: How much of a advantage that is?

703
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: No, it's huge.

704
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 7: So during my years in Philadelphia where we had some

705
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 7: nice runs, it was almost like tag team wrestling. So

706
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 7: Hugh Douglas would just go out there and wear out

707
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 7: an offensive lineman. We're out of offensive lineman. And as

708
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 7: soon as he taps his helmet, that's saying, hey, nd

709
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 7: come on, let you know, annou it's your turn.

710
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: And I'm running out there.

711
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 7: That offensive tackle is like, oh god, dag, here comes

712
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 7: that crazy Nigerian dude with no technique, but he's one

713
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 7: hundred percent high motor. After I had to deal with

714
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 7: Hugh Douglas for thirty plays in a row. So now

715
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 7: and not only is it importancy, so it's important to

716
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 7: get guys to accept that role and understand who they

717
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 7: are and what they are in regards to the pass rush.

718
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 7: So now it's a it's a beautiful thing when you

719
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 7: get everybody in place and understanding their role and just

720
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 7: throwing those fat at those quarterbacks. Then when you look

721
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 7: at the other side of the ball, here's where I

722
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 7: get in a lot of disagreements with guys. And it's

723
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 7: not that I'm knocking the running back position, but I've

724
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 7: seen so many examples of success at the running back

725
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 7: position where you didn't have to spend a bowtload of money,

726
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 7: where you didn't have to use a first round pick.

727
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 7: I've always been of the belief, if I'm a GM,

728
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 7: if I'm a decision maker, the onus is on me

729
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 7: to find production after the third round, like I'm just

730
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 7: sorry or not signing a big free agent. I just

731
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 7: feel like nowadays the days of Emma Smith Barry Sanders

732
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,719
Speaker 7: are over. You can use that two three headed monster

733
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 7: at the running that position. I'm gonna get your take

734
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 7: on that.

735
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 6: I can't disagree. I can't disagree because you see signs

736
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 6: of that everywhere. I think every team has a one

737
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 6: two bunch or one two three right guys they feel

738
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: comfortable what they can put back there. I watched the

739
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 6: Ravens this year. God got hurt, they put another guy

740
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 6: innother guy get hurt, they put.

741
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: Another guy in. It's like, just hey, we're gonna get

742
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 5: get guys going. But it's hard.

743
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 6: Hard for me to look at the Texans and say, hey,

744
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 6: if I can get say Climb Barkley at a decent price,

745
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 6: that's hard for me to pass up on that. I

746
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 6: want to keep it Singletary because I think him having

747
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 6: a career year here and him being the productive way

748
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 6: that he was, he was perfect for the system.

749
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 5: It's tough for me because.

750
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 6: I don't want to give up on Damien either, right

751
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 6: because I think Damien can get it. It's just he's

752
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 6: never been in this guy in that type of system.

753
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 6: He always just downhill. I'm running power. I'm gonna run

754
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 6: hard as I can through the whole. But it takes

755
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: a little finesse, takes a little patience to learn that. Right,

756
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 6: Arian was so dangon good because he was so dang

757
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 6: on patient, he might be the smoothest running back in

758
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 6: NFL history.

759
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, smoothest, just I mean my dad would saying O. J.

760
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 6: Simpson the juice and Gail Sayers or Washing Painton. This

761
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 6: dude Arian was smooth, but he was patient reading the

762
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 6: defense right. That's not easy to do. So I get

763
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 6: it to ask your question, Yes, today's in fail. If

764
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: i'm I'm with you, I'm not spending huge money on

765
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 6: a running back because I think it's you're productive by

766
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 6: running back by committee. I think that's the most productive

767
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 6: way in today's game, especially when you have a guy

768
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: like CJ. But it's gonna be hard to pass up

769
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: on a special one in free agency for the right

770
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 6: price in the same bank for Sinqua r not But

771
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 6: if he will come for a certain number, I don't

772
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 6: know what that number is. That probably depends on the GM.

773
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 6: Right he comes for a certain number, man, you can't

774
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 6: pass that up.

775
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 7: The one running back that makes me question my own

776
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 7: thought process in regards of running backs Christian McCaffrey. Like,

777
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 7: when I watch Christian McCaffrey, I'm like, you know what

778
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 7: I break the bank for? It just seems like he

779
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 7: has a more of an impact than any other running

780
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 7: back that's currently currently playing. And keep in mind, I'm

781
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 7: not watching all thirty two teams every single week, but

782
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: when for some reason the five or six games that

783
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 7: I watched with the forty nine ers, and maybe that

784
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 7: it was his best games, Christian McCaffrey's at one running

785
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 7: back where I'm like, man, he truly does have an

786
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 7: impact on the game.

787
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: He's I would say him. I would even throw Derrick

788
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 6: Henry in there.

789
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 7: Today's Derrick Henry or two years ago Derrick Henry.

790
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: Oh, I guess you're right, maybe two years ago Derek.

791
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 6: Now, I'll tell him. Because McCaffrey can catch, Yes, he

792
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 6: run routes. You can line him up in the slot,

793
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: you can line him up outside. He can run between

794
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: the tackles. I didn't notice about him until I watched

795
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 6: him this year. He got some dog in them, like

796
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 6: he got some he got some like he'll talk trashy,

797
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 6: he'll get in your face, like he got someone that

798
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 6: want to in him, which I appreciate, Like I just

799
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 6: I love to see that.

800
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 5: But he's probably the best back in the league right now.

801
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 7: And I feel like I'm missing somebody by saying that.

802
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 7: And I'll be the first to raise my hand, but

803
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 7: oh I'm missing someone. But Derrick Henry, Yes, a couple

804
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 7: of years ago, hands down. But right now, I think

805
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey, just like you said, as as small as

806
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 7: he is in stature, even though he's very muscular and solid,

807
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 7: he runs in between the tackles. But then you break

808
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 7: him out, he lines up a slot receiver and he's

809
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 7: just as dangerous. So yeah, correct me if I'm wrong.

810
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 7: I don't know what running back out there has that

811
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 7: same kind of impact. If Saquon Barkley can do that

812
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 7: for the Texans, poof that, that would be a beautiful thing.

813
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: Well, that would be huge.

814
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 6: But you look at like tag him in with Singletary, Yes,

815
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, so he doesn't have

816
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 6: to have three hundred touches or three hundred carries. He

817
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 6: can have you know, two twenty five or one hundred whatever,

818
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 6: And Singletary can give you that break as well. So

819
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 6: you can bring a guy in like say Quon or

820
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: whoever at the right price.

821
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: I think it got to do it.

822
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 6: But I'm I agree with you. I think it has

823
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 6: to be a committee type of thing.

824
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: Man.

825
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: Two my favorites right there in d Klu and Cecul

826
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: Shorts appreciate them for stopping Bigo. Check out Texans OG's podcast.

827
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: There have been some great ones since indy started back

828
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: in the summer. Some really really good stuff from nd

829
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: Kalu and Cecil Shorts coming up next, Sports Rare six

830
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Tens Sean Pendergat stopped by for a long podcast. Make

831
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: sure it'scheck out vander Meir's View podcast for that one.

832
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: Great stuff with Sean and with this segment coming up,

833
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: Sean talks about the NFL franchise tags, Texans free agency.

834
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: All that kind of stuff with Mark van Mein.

835
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: Next right here on Texans All Access, we are one

836
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 2: final segment this beautiful Friday it issue of Texans All

837
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: Access from the Honday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host

838
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter and once the co

839
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: host of One Shawn Pendergast who is now on the

840
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: morning show Painted Pendergast Sean Pendergast on Sports Radio six

841
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: ten Texans pre and post host as pre game of

842
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Seth Payne his morning show co host and then postgame

843
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: with Clinch Sterner, who you can hear on afternoons with

844
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: run show Hugley The Drive from to six at Sports

845
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: Radio six ten. Now, Shawn and I started our radio

846
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: career together. So this podcast that Seawan did with Mark

847
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: Ghost for like an hour plus, it's great, and it

848
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: talks about Shawn's background, which I know a lot about

849
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: because Shawn and I started and read together two thousand

850
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: and seven, which seventeen years ago, which is wild, but

851
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: seventeen years ago, man, I'm having.

852
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: Trouble with that.

853
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Anyways, They talked about Shawn's getting into radio, how he

854
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: did all of that. But if you can meet Sean

855
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: peddergass On, you got talk to him aboutootball, you got

856
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: ask him about what's going on with the Texans, get

857
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: his thoughts about free agency and everything happening.

858
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: And Mark Vandimier did exactly that right here.

859
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: Take a listen, all right, joining us Sean Pendergast, co

860
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 3: host of Painted Pedergas Sports Radio six ' ten, longtime

861
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: sports radio host.

862
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: Sean.

863
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Welcome, good to be here, Vandy. This here we go.

864
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: I get to be a guest in this studio.

865
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: Yes, you're in the studio a lot, interviewing players postgame,

866
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: talking to Clint Starner, talking about Texans victories. Lately, which

867
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: is awesome after going through some tough time. So this

868
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: year must have been so much fun.

869
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: It was so great. It was funny. This is when

870
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: I knew, like that Clint Clinton and I that the

871
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: last few years had been rough. Clinton. I were literally

872
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: getting on the elevator in our building one day sometime

873
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: between the twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three season,

874
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: and we ran into a lawyer in our building on

875
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: the twentieth floor and we were we were going down

876
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: the elevator together and we got talking. He knew who

877
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: we were, and he knew that we did the postgame

878
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: show for the Texans. And when we got off the

879
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: elevator at the bottom and we kind of went our

880
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: separate ways to go to the parking lot, the guy

881
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: literally said thank you for your service, okay, you know,

882
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, you don't need to be

883
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: thanking us like we're you know, like it's combat pay

884
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: or something. But that was a rough few years, you

885
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: know that as well as anybody. And this has been

886
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: amazing being in this studio talking up the Demico Ryan C. J.

887
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: Stroud Texans has been and really the whole group. It's

888
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: just such a great group of dudes. Man, it's been awesome.

889
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: It could not be any better.

890
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: It feels like, right, that's why I thought, is this

891
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: the team of destiny?

892
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 4: Is it gonna happen this year?

893
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: As they were going on their late season into the

894
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: playoffs run. Obviously it stopped, but the future is so bright.

895
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible. And then you sprinkling Andre Johnson going

896
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame like the cherry on top

897
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: of just what was a great year, And I think

898
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: a great night at the Super Bowl week, like I

899
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know, like I I my feeling in the moment

900
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: maybe got swept up in it. I thought that was

901
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: the greatest night in Texans history when when Andre goes

902
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, which is like the closest

903
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: thing we've got to a super Bowl right now that

904
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: the city can celebrate, and CJ and Will kind of

905
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: winning those two awards, but kind of affirming what was

906
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: also a really good night a year before that in

907
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: the draft. I thought that was sort of an epilogue

908
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, it's great, right, this is fun and

909
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: we're in free agency and it's fun to be It's

910
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: fun to know that the Texans are a team that

911
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: when they call people, they're gonna be picking up the phone.

912
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a destination for a lot

913
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: of guys.

914
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: I heard what you said about that night, and I thought,

915
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: and you know how I like to weigh in on.

916
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: These You're the history, and I checked with you first.

917
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think it's fine.

918
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: But as far as non game day, game night situations,

919
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 3: it's definitely in the top five, maybe top three, maybe

920
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: top two.

921
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: With the draft.

922
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: Because I think you said it well, it's bookends to

923
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: the magical season of twenty twenty three. Would you look

924
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: at the draft night and then look at that night

925
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: at NFL honors? What could be more validating for you

926
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: picking ZJ. Stroud than moving up investing in that pick

927
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: to select Will Anderson Junior, and bang They're both being

928
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: honored on that night and Onray Johnson's getting into the

929
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 3: Hall of It would have.

930
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: Been a great night if just one of those two

931
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: things had happened, you know, the two Rookie of the

932
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Year awards being won and Andre being the other, and

933
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: the fact that it happened just all within minutes of

934
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: each other was so cool. I'm still waiting for the

935
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: Internet if they've made this already, let me know. But

936
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for the internet to take kind of

937
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: one of those like a like a still shot or

938
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: a short video of Will and CJ hugging backstage at

939
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: the draft, and it sort of like morphing into the

940
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: hug they had, Oh yeah backstage after winning the Rookie

941
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: of the Year award, you know kind of thing.

942
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: Were you bitter or disappointed or what was your reaction

943
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: to Dmico Ryans not getting Coach.

944
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: Of the Year In the moment, I was, I was disappointed.

945
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: I was okay. In the moment, I was surprised. I

946
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: thought Stefanski was going to win it. I was surprised

947
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: it was as close as it was. Okay when I

948
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: saw that it was, and I would have voted for Demiko,

949
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: but I just thought it was a regular season award.

950
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: The votes were all in before that win over Cleveland

951
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, So as far as I mean, that's

952
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: the closest thing you can get to ahead to head

953
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: matchup for an award is Week sixteen. Two coaches who

954
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about for that award at the end of

955
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: the year, and we know what happened in that game,

956
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: so I thought Stefanski was gonna win it. But boy,

957
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: when I saw the tweets about it was tied in

958
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: overall points and Stefanski won it on a first place vote.

959
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: In the moment that night, I was like, oh, well

960
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: that stinks. Boy, it would have been really cool. I've

961
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: actually gotten more bitter about it since then. I'm like,

962
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: the more I think about it, I'm like, that would

963
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: have been an amazing night. Caught up in the moment

964
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: of everything good that was going on, I didn't want

965
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: to get disappointed. But now I've had a couple weeks

966
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: to let it synk in, and now I'm like, damn,

967
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Demiko should have gotten that thing.

968
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: My beef with Stefanski is you've won it before. What's

969
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 3: happened since then? Everyone makes a big deal about four

970
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 3: quarterback starting games. I know they had the fifth and

971
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: the meaningless game, but the four quarterbacks, and I'm thinking, well,

972
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: you had two last year. Yeah, so he had less

973
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: injuries at that position and a worse record, So what's

974
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: the problem with last year or the year before? But

975
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: I get it. I get how this goes.

976
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be harder for Demiico to win it.

977
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: In year two, even though he's listed as one of

978
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: the four or five favorites like he's I think he's

979
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: tied for fourth on the board. I check these kind

980
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: of things, as you know, I think it's gonna be

981
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: harder for it will be harder for him to win

982
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: it because I went and looked and other than outliers

983
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: like Stefanski winning with four quarterbacks, or like Bruce Arians

984
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: when he was substituting for Chuck Pagano who had cancer,

985
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: like other than, like you know, just strange circumstances. Almost

986
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: by rule, it's either a first year head coach who

987
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: way over achieves, or a longtime head coach or a

988
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: veteran head coach I'll call it, who has one of

989
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: the two or at worst, like three best records in football.

990
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: So Dimiico can win it, But the Texans are gonna

991
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: need to go fourteen and three or something like that.

992
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say fourteen and three would be

993
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: a record that I would think would be necessary for

994
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: that award. He's put himself at a higher level now

995
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: where the expectations are there.

996
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a great thing for the franchise. I mean, ultimately,

997
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: if he wins zero Coach of the Year awards in

998
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: his career, but we get a couple of Super Bowls.

999
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: Who cares? Who cares if he goes fourteen and three

1000
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: against this schedule? Yeah, holy smoke. Wow, Yeah, it's gonna

1001
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: be a fun schedule man. Yeah.

1002
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: Well it's funny because twenty eleven was a real breakthrough

1003
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: season for them.

1004
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: Twenty twelve, that schedule was pretty tough.

1005
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you looked at it laid out there, you

1006
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: had the Ravens coming in a lot of similarities Packers.

1007
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 3: I know, they lost to the Packers that year and

1008
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: they end up going twelve and four. Right, they were

1009
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: eleven and one at one point, as you know. So

1010
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: who knows. I don't know how it's all going to

1011
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: play out. We don't even know who's on the team yet.

1012
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: People are asking me how they're gonna do. I don't

1013
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: even know who's on the team. Got over thirty free

1014
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: agents you gotta deal with.

1015
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. The way I look at the upcoming season

1016
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: is the level of quarterback play that you're facing is

1017
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: much much higher. And to contextualize it, like Burrow and

1018
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson were the two best quarterbacks they face this year.

1019
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: Who is the third best like Baker Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence, Flacco.

1020
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: Maybe look going into the year, Trevor Lawrence was this

1021
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: dangerous rude and we don't look at him the same way,

1022
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: but he could possibly have a bounced back.

1023
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: And you thought Aaron Rodgers was going to be on

1024
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: the schedule, and this and that, right, there were other games.

1025
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: Cj finished fifth in the Pro Bowl for the AFC

1026
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: was a second alternate, so there were four quarterbacks ahead

1027
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: of him for the Pro Bowl. He eventually ended up going.

1028
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: This is where I'm going with this. The four quarterbacks

1029
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: that were ahead of him are all on the schedule

1030
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: this year. So you're talking about the third best quarterback

1031
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: of the entire schedule this past season being maybe Baker

1032
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: Mayfield or Trevor Lawrence. They play Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes

1033
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: two a Tongue Ba Looa and Josh Allen. You can

1034
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: feel however you want about two or whatever. But he's

1035
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: in that mix. And then then Rodgers Lawrence twice. Yeah,

1036
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: and then go over the NFC. You know you got

1037
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott on there, you got Jared Goff, Jordan Love

1038
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: had a nice second half to the season. That game's

1039
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: in Green.

1040
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 3: Bay very tough. Yeah yeah, dak in the regular season

1041
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: is tough.

1042
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: We all know that.

1043
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: So do Are you hoping for Thanksgiving?

1044
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: I am, but I'll be okay either way.

1045
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: Right.

1046
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: I think that everybody who plays Dallas or who has

1047
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 3: Dallas on the schedule thinks they're gonna play on thanks tonight.

1048
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 4: We're gonna be there for Thanksgiving. It's gonna happened.

1049
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: I love that the Oilers were there during one of

1050
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: their AFC Championship game seasons and they beat them. I'd

1051
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: love to be able to do that on a Thanksgiving Day.

1052
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: That'd be phenomenal. So I know you feel the same

1053
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 3: way you.

1054
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: Have thought about this whole Thanksgiving Day thing.

1055
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna happen.

1056
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: Every team that has the Cowboys as a road team

1057
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: always feels like they're gonna get Thanksgiving game.

1058
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: It would be a great Thanksgiving game.

1059
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: I know that, But I don't know either way. I

1060
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 2: just want to go up there and beat them. Beat them.

1061
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: Went up there in fourteen, couldn't do it, went up

1062
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: there in twenty two, couldn't do it. Twenty four has

1063
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: gotta be the year that we go up to Dallas

1064
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: and beat the cowboys up there.

1065
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: That will be a fun trip.

1066
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, it was a fun trip with Sean and with

1067
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: Mark of course with all of you guys. A big

1068
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: thanks to Indian Cecil. We'll see you guys on Monday

1069
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: as we get ready to go to the I'm buying

1070
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: see that everybody does. Always go Texans m