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Speaker 1: Hey guys, we were back on normally. The show with

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Speaker 1: normal is it takes for when the news gets weird. I'm

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Speaker 1: Mary Catherine hamp and.

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Speaker 2: I'm Carol Markowitz. How's it going, Mary Catherine?

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Speaker 1: It's going good. I had travel day to day, so

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Speaker 1: I've been up for a while trying to get used

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Speaker 2: Yeah, always tough.

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Speaker 3: I had a very intense playoff game today. It was

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Speaker 3: among nine year olds playing flag football. I love living

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Speaker 3: somewhere that takes sports so seriously. Like I had moms

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Speaker 3: who don't have any kids playing in this texting me

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Speaker 3: like what's the score? Like tell us they're nine. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: I my heart was beating out of my chest. I

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Speaker 3: was sweaty, like it was really something. But I would

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Speaker 3: only care if my kids in it, Like.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, see, I know if you had me out there,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely care. You were just carrying.

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Speaker 2: But they weren't out there.

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Speaker 1: They were home, like, hey, who's winning?

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Speaker 2: Like it's just you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: I always kind of enjoyed the places that take youth

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Speaker 3: sports very seriously, and now I live in one of those,

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Speaker 3: and that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for the not Today's result, by the arrest,

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Speaker 1: is a tournament.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays another game, another playoff game tomorrow on

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Speaker 3: the road to the nine year old Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty okay, shall we let's do it?

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Speaker 3: Is there a Nazi tattoo on the chest of a

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Speaker 3: Democratic US Senate candidate out of Maine?

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Speaker 1: There is? So, this is Graham Plattner, who is a

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Speaker 1: Democratic nominee in the primary fight to face Susan Collins,

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Speaker 1: who is the always stay winning Republican perennials from Maine.

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Speaker 1: Now is there a chance to knock her off in

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Speaker 1: an off year when people are ticked off at Trump

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Speaker 1: in a place that is not super Redy okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so they got They got two folks running in Maine.

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Speaker 1: One is this guy who got in early, who's a

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Speaker 1: Graham Platner, who's a marine vet, working class guy, oyster man. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Whereas the other person that the establishment is backing is

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Speaker 1: Janet Mills, who is the governor of Maine. This is

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Speaker 1: an interesting matchup because the governor of Maine embodies all

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Speaker 1: the things Democrats messed up last time, which is like,

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Speaker 1: she's just like an establishment old person, and so people

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Speaker 1: are gonna get ticked off about that. But Platner's got

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Speaker 1: his own problems, which we're finding out about now.

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Speaker 3: So he had some questionable Reddit posts making fun of

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Speaker 3: working class white people, which not great in Maine claims

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Speaker 3: to be. I'm always like, it's always the people who

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Speaker 3: white people, and I'm always like, you are white, you

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Speaker 3: are white.

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Speaker 2: Stop it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, and then this tattoo thing comes up, and the

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Speaker 3: story's been kind of floating around. People knew about that

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Speaker 3: this tattoo.

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Speaker 2: For a while.

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Speaker 3: He knew what it was for a very very long time.

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Speaker 3: There's evidence that he's been aware for a very long time.

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Speaker 3: And now he's like, oh, I'm gonna just I'm going

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Speaker 3: to cover it up. It's totally fine. I had this

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Speaker 1: Well, and his story is he got it on. Surely

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Speaker 1: even Croatia, he was drunk. They didn't really know what

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Speaker 1: it was. They just thought it looked cool. Even if

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Speaker 2: Done many years of it.

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Speaker 1: He had almost twenty years to cover it, twenty years.

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Speaker 1: The reason he covered it is because someone found out

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Speaker 1: about it. In his first run for office. That's that

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Speaker 1: doesn't I don't that doesn't pass.

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Speaker 2: The stiff exactly.

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Speaker 3: And obviously the mainstream media is holding him accountable for this.

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Speaker 1: Right right, obviously, especially the pod Save America bros, who

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Speaker 1: and then the rest of the media, of course, has

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Speaker 1: lots of nuanced thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are so nuanced.

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Speaker 4: It's about a like it's by the way, it's not

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Speaker 1: I think you flagged one tweet in particular.

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Speaker 3: Crystal Ball, who is just the worst, said for me personally,

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Speaker 3: I'll take a candidate with a regrettable tattoo over one

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Speaker 3: the readers add context note on it is like they

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Speaker 3: supported a genocide. The Nazi ss were responsible for running

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Speaker 2: He reportedly bragged about the tattoo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you want to take a guess whether Crystal

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Speaker 1: Ball thought that Elon was guilty of a Nazi gesture

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Speaker 1: she did. She thought that he needed to be held

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Speaker 1: accountable for that. But ink ink, that is specifically a

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Hey, ma'am, Like, I actually agree with you that we

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Speaker 1: don't want to cancel everyone who had unfortunate posts when

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Speaker 1: they were in their twenties, right. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 1: rest of their lives. You guys were the ones who

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Speaker 1: were firing people over Okay, symbols that they put out

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Speaker 1: that was me yea, that we need to be considered

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Speaker 1: of the redemption arc of a working class vet who

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Speaker 2: And knew the whole time, and you know, did nothing.

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Speaker 3: Sung Min kim At, a reporter for AP, had this tweet.

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Speaker 3: Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner tells AP he got a

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Speaker 3: seen as yep, we would totally get that benefit of

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Speaker 1: It's just it's I don't find it that hard to

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, all right.

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Speaker 3: Onto the crazy little mayoral race in New York City.

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Speaker 3: Curtis Leiwa is the Republican candidate. He is running against

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Speaker 3: pressure on him to drop out, and he's saying, why

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Speaker 3: Give me his can you know his voters? Why do

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Speaker 2: So New York's in a really tough spot.

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Speaker 3: The reality that I'm going to have this communist Islamist

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Speaker 1: I understand Sleeve's position because Andrew Clomo already lost to

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Speaker 3: Change in that attitude. He is not out there in

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Speaker 1: No, he's entitled. He thinks he he thinks he should

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Speaker 2: But and they don't have a plan at all.

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Speaker 1: By the way, two recent developments in that race. Abigail Spamberger,

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more on Normally, where we

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Speaker 1: right to one. Yeah am, and I'm like, whoa, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's do something else, but it's not for me, right,

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Speaker 1: But she also is making banks, so like maybe she's

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Speaker 1: just saving that for later, right. I do think there's

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Speaker 1: a happy medium between that and like I must be

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Speaker 1: able to do my twenty step skincare and my workout

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Speaker 1: every day. Yeah, all these like specific, very specific wes.

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Speaker 2: I finish at five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: I there's a lot of videos like that also, And

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Speaker 3: I do I respect that the girls who are like,

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Speaker 3: I'm finished with work at five o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I do not take calls at five point thirty. That's great.

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Speaker 3: I just think to myself, AI is coming and it's

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Speaker 3: going to replace a lot of people. And the people

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Speaker 3: that are going to be replaced first are the ones

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Speaker 3: who are like watching the clock to go home. It's unfair,

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Speaker 3: and you know it's wrong. You're right, you should be

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Speaker 3: paid for every you know, hour that you work. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: but there's a lot of jobs that are very strivy jobs,

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Speaker 3: those like you said, those were never for me. I've

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Speaker 3: never wanted to be, you know, a top boss somewhere

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Speaker 3: or something. I always wanted that work life balance. So

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Speaker 3: I completely understand. But if you are in these careers,

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Speaker 3: there is something to the fact that you work insane

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Speaker 3: hours in your twenties and then you coast a little

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Speaker 3: bit in your thirties, forties and beyond. It is definitely

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Speaker 3: the hours come down after a certain point, But those

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Speaker 3: those hours in your twenties. I know people at these

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Speaker 3: kinds of jobs and at these kinds of upper echelon

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Speaker 3: of these kinds of careers, and.

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Speaker 2: They work their butts off in their twenties.

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Speaker 1: And even I'm going to give like a counterintuitive take,

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Speaker 1: which is like, when you are hustling in your twenties,

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Speaker 1: there's joy in that. Yeah, that's what you're doing at

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Speaker 1: that moment of your life, right, And I did all

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Speaker 1: sorts of silly stuff because I came up in new

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Speaker 1: media when new media first existed. Yeah, I was figuring

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Speaker 1: out how to make videos. I was figuring out how

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Speaker 1: to throw things at the wall on YouTube, on Twitter

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Speaker 1: to see what would work. And my bosses were letting

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Speaker 1: me do it so because it was like this whole

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Speaker 1: new frontier and that's how I made my career. But

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Speaker 1: I pulled an all nighter every single Thursday night for

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Speaker 1: years because I was editing video, and editing video took

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Speaker 1: so long in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the kids don't know.

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Speaker 1: They did not know. I I have no idea. It

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Speaker 1: took so long. And I was doing a little weekly

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Speaker 1: YouTube show, and so I edited all night long on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night and then just get up and go to

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Speaker 1: work on Friday.

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Speaker 5: Mon.

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Speaker 1: This is what you do.

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Speaker 2: That's what you did.

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Speaker 1: I had created a product, and I created something that

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Speaker 1: worked for my career, and it was fun and silly

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Speaker 1: and also I worked real hard on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The writer of this piece a Meal, bar I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's like, you know, started companies when he was in

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Speaker 3: his twenties and is that kind of person. But you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to be the tech bro and whatever.

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Speaker 3: What you're talking about is the same thing he's saying.

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Speaker 3: He has a great line. When you frontload success early,

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Speaker 3: you buy the luxury of choice for the rest of

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Speaker 3: your life. Because Mary Catherine right now is like stay

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Speaker 3: up all night and do editing of videos like and

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Speaker 3: you have that luxury of choice right because thank you

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Speaker 3: to the Mary Catherine of back then.

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Speaker 2: She had worked real hard.

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Speaker 1: She could handle those all nighters. Not no more, no

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Speaker 1: more friends. But yeah, there was joy in that, and

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Speaker 1: there was joy in being with work people after hours.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you live a little bit more of that,

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Speaker 1: the office life, where your more of your relationships are

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Speaker 1: in that place than at your house. And it was

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Speaker 1: good and it was fun.

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