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Speaker 1: explore everywhere. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. It is

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Speaker 1: Foxsports Radio. I do know the Lions beat the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 2: I'm aware.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you

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Speaker 1: I watched every stap because I was coaching a basketball game.

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Speaker 1: But I did watch the NFL network at some time

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Speaker 1: in the night, and I did get the general gist

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Speaker 1: of things. I was busy wallowing in it. And that's

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Speaker 1: where we begin. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to we had to nest

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Speaker 1: last night's Lions win Cowboys loss, a huge weekend in

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Speaker 1: college football. All right, you guys want to start there?

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Speaker 1: Is that what we should do or or I guess

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Speaker 1: we talk about the fact that what's being called a

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Speaker 1: chair throwing was the lead story for ESPN dot com

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Speaker 1: for a minute and then ESPN's college basketball page. And look,

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Speaker 1: I started with the premise or the question I posed

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Speaker 1: to the guys, which is they got it had to

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Speaker 1: be a slow news day, right, slow news day. But

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Speaker 1: I was kind of talked into and I actually believe

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Speaker 1: that that's not what it's about.

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Speaker 2: For the record, my basketball team had a.

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Speaker 1: Oh was it eleven point lead with two thirty eight

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Speaker 1: conference champion and conference tournament champion Robert Morris Uh.

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Speaker 2: And we lost. We lost. We were up.

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Speaker 1: Seven with a minute and thirty to go. Lost, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we missed a couple free throws, but twenty

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Speaker 1: five to thirty one. We turned the ball over, but

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Speaker 1: only one bad turnover. And it was one of those

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Speaker 1: series of things that all of a sudden go wrong,

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Speaker 1: right from uh, from two bad possessions to one bad

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Speaker 1: turnover on a miscommunication and then giving up three pointers

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Speaker 1: one and one, and next thing you know, you turn around,

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Speaker 1: you leave their best shooter, and then they beat us

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Speaker 1: on a play that we had struggled to guard and

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Speaker 2: And I mean, it.

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Speaker 1: Stings worse than you can imagine. But in case you're wondering,

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Speaker 1: the story of the day is that I threw a chair. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to say that I played for John McCloud,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. He was a big chair tucker in her guy.

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Speaker 1: We tuck in those chairs, Notre Dame. We can't be immature,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I was just trying to put away

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Speaker 1: obviously it's frustration that you have to hold in. You

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Speaker 1: we've been playing really good basketball, and.

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Speaker 2: We we frankly choked. Frankly choked. It's really what happened.

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Speaker 1: Everybody owns it, myself included, and got to be better.

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer, go ahead, you have you look like you

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Speaker 3: No, I just I thought that it was interesting and honestly, Doug,

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Speaker 3: And so I was shocked in just how it happened.

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Speaker 1: So, Jase, do you think it's just that because it's me,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, We've talked about this before. Right of your one

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Speaker 5: And I think last and obviously that includes somebody on

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Speaker 5: the editorial staff at ESPN. We remember last December when

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Speaker 5: they completely misrepresented a farcical post about you, and they

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Speaker 5: a college basketball I just think that there's something about

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Speaker 5: I don't know, hate read stories about you. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what the proper term is, but I don't think

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Speaker 5: it had anything to do with it being a slow

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Speaker 5: college basketball night. I just think people have eyes on you,

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Speaker 2: But probably pretty accurate, probably very accurate.

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Speaker 1: And it's okay, you know, it's like the that is

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Speaker 1: our what is it our fifth consecutive close game? Right

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Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is. I'm sure there's someone

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Speaker 2: Know, what I believe is like, whoever.

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Speaker 1: Is there now wasn't there when I was there because

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Speaker 1: I do think that it's classic clickbait because even the

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Speaker 3: I'm almost one hundred percent sure, one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: No cool, No, I mean again, you shouldn't do anything,

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't react anyway. Right, But again it's like the

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Speaker 2: His team made shots, we did not. They got play

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Speaker 2: made plays, we did not. They stole one. Great. You know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure next time round they'll be way better. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: But shook hands and was walking off and was us

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Speaker 1: just being honest, it's not all It's not like directed

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Speaker 1: I did the best job. It's not just them, this

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Speaker 1: We have end of game sets and end of game plays,

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Speaker 1: myself because have we fouled. The book tells you to

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Speaker 3: I was more surprised that you swore in your postgame

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Speaker 3: I actually thought that you guys started an in the

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Speaker 3: that it's after the press conference. Yes, that's what I

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, unbelievaly frustrating, like unbelievally frustrating. You do everything,

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Speaker 1: But we got to make the wins account. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Oh, I'm gonna tell you this, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So here's the the question that I know the answer to.

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Speaker 1: But I'm wondering if you guys are gonna ask, is

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Speaker 2: And I'm just telling you like the wins.

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Speaker 1: It it's it's cliche, but it's cliche because it's true.

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Speaker 2: The wins are a relief. It's just a relief. The

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Speaker 2: losses are the worst because you want to go. It's

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Speaker 2: you want to go, like, no, I knew the answer.

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Speaker 1: It's like a test you'd study for and then all

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Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I know that answer. Can I take

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Speaker 1: They're like, no, we don't. There's no makeup work here.

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Speaker 1: It's not how it works.

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Speaker 3: You're also Doug talking to two guys right now, and

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Speaker 3: Jason and myself who will have their days ruined by

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Speaker 3: an elimination or a loss in fantasy football. And by

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show Fox Sports Radio. So Michaeh

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Speaker 7: Respect is something that's earned, and these people want to

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Speaker 1: It starts to Sunday to get your respect back. Sesame

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Speaker 1: don't know if the Bears are disrespectful. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of it.

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Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Dan. We talked about sports

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Speaker 1: superstitions earlier this week, So in any way, are you

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Speaker 1: Sports superstitions. Okay, Ohio State loses last year to Michigan,

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Speaker 3: Well, I that's a whole other conversation. But I don't

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Speaker 1: some big contract of the act like that in a

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Speaker 1: nationally televised handalone game when we're in the playoff hunt.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, we're doing here? What are we actually doing?

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Speaker 1: It is dou Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Lions. What was better about their offense last night?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 8: They ran I mean, you know, obviously running the ball

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Speaker 8: was really fantastic and just felt like they understood the

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Speaker 8: importance of the game. They knew the assignment, so to speak,

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Speaker 8: and they knew this is a game where they if

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Speaker 8: they're going to stand in the playoff hunt, they had

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Speaker 8: to get the victory. And I think the real lion

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Speaker 8: showed up last night. Jared Goff made his throws, but

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Speaker 8: really running the ball, just tackling better for the most part.

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Speaker 8: But I think the main part was just being able

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Speaker 8: to be balanced. And I think you saw that last night,

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Speaker 8: and that's exactly what Dan Campbell wants to be. And

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Speaker 8: you know, I thought the running game was the big difference.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we're getting ready for this weekend. Bears Packers.

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Speaker 1: Packers have speed, Bears have power, and I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you go by last week an unbelievable running game. Packers

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Speaker 1: defense feels like it kind of feels like they'll Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning Colts defenses. And tell me if I'm wrong, But

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Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning Colt defenses where we want Peyton's going

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Speaker 1: to get the lead and then we're going to pin

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Speaker 1: my years back and use our speed to get after

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. The only times that doesn't work is when

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Speaker 1: somebody's super conservative and runs the football. Am I accurate

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Speaker 1: in any way in the comparison?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you are. And I think for the

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Speaker 8: Green Bay Packers, you know a guy by the name

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Speaker 8: of Carl Brooks. He's going to to really step up

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Speaker 8: on the inside. He's been playing well, I think all

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Speaker 8: season long with Wyatt down and the defensive line. Carl

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Speaker 8: Brooks is gonna be named as a Packer fan that

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Speaker 8: I'm going to be watching really hard to see how

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Speaker 8: the run game goes and what he can do, because

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Speaker 8: that's really where he excels at. And so I just

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Speaker 8: want to see him play in that venue to see

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Speaker 8: how he performs, because that's really the most important thing

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Speaker 8: for the Packers right now, to be able to shut

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Speaker 8: down that run so they can be that type of

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Speaker 8: team to get to be, you know, not only obviously

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Speaker 8: you know, pass rushers, but even to some of the

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Speaker 8: other guys that maybe people don't know as well, the

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Speaker 8: Edrin Cooper's or whomever that are really I think speed

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Speaker 8: guys as well off the edge. Let alone to Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 1: S Doug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's pop around the league just a little bit

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Speaker 1: more as we get ready for this weekend, the Steelers

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Speaker 1: they're taking on the Ravens. I have questions about both teams.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Steelers. You started talking about Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Does feel like this is a year where they went

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Speaker 1: all in. What's missing? Why are they not better?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 8: I think probably the main reason is Aaron Rodgers, I

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Speaker 8: think finally starting to look even though he's an older quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I think he's feeling like he's an older quarterback in

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Speaker 8: the game and the way he's just moving around the field.

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Speaker 8: And yes, Tom Brady was playing at an older level,

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Speaker 8: but Tom's arm still and Eric's got a good arm,

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Speaker 8: but Tom's head and arm and everything. We're really kind

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Speaker 8: of working together. And the Steelers in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 8: who's the number two receiver, who's going to be or

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Speaker 8: who's the number one, who's the number three, which tight

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Speaker 8: end can show up, and who's gonna make the plays

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Speaker 8: for him?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 8: I just I feel like the Steelers just don't have

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Speaker 8: the firepower that you want to have. Where you saw

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Speaker 8: Tom Brady do it, but it was Mike Evans, it

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Speaker 8: was Chris Godwin. There was a lot of good players

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Speaker 8: there that were making plays all of Obviously Gronk was there,

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Speaker 8: and so I think that's the difference we see with

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Speaker 8: the Pittsburgh Steelers is the skill players on offense just

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Speaker 8: aren't dynamic. And it's been something I think that slowly

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Speaker 8: has been pulled away from the Steelers over the last

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Speaker 8: couple of years. And I think that's why they've kind

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Speaker 8: of been this fringe team each year. Can they get

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Speaker 8: over five hundred? I think they'll be over five hundred

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Speaker 8: this year. But I feel like the Raiders are going

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Speaker 8: to win this game because excuse me, the Ravens are

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Speaker 8: going to win this game because I think they're going

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Speaker 8: to get the ball into Derek Henry's hands and let

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Speaker 8: him carry them to a victory.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the Chador Sanders. Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: two games. Now, what's your as a general manager, what's

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Speaker 1: your perception of of should Door.

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Speaker 8: Sanders still's kind of the same, you know, I still

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Speaker 8: think the game is going to happen fast for him.

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Speaker 8: I think he can draw up plays and make plays,

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Speaker 8: and he can you know, throw the ball and things

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Speaker 8: like that. But I still feel like the accuracy part

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Speaker 8: is going to be an issue for Shador as he

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Speaker 8: continues to go, and especially in that mid tier range,

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Speaker 8: those throws from like twelve to twenty, those are the

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Speaker 8: ones I really want to see him get a lot

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Speaker 8: more consistent with because those are the really the game changers.

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Speaker 8: Those are the ones you need when you're in third

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Speaker 8: and eight, and I just don't feel like Shador is

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Speaker 8: hitting those with a good accuracy right now the way

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Speaker 8: he's throwing the ball because he feel like he's rushed

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Speaker 8: and I think he knows where. I think he thinks

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Speaker 8: he wants to go with it, but I think he's

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Speaker 8: rushing himself and therefore he's throwing off balance or he's

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Speaker 8: not you know, really following through with his motion, and

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Speaker 8: I think that's causing him to be off.

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Speaker 2: I would I would agree there. I just yeah, I don't,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's a back peddler. That's who he's been,

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to protect him, but he's clearly not

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Speaker 1: seeing things and he doesn't know what he sees. He

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Speaker 1: just dumps it off like that's his that's kind of.

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Speaker 5: His m O.

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Speaker 8: Right, He's a young quarterback that doesn't want to lose

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Speaker 8: the job. Now, and that's not the way to win

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Speaker 8: the quarterback job. And that's you know, he's wanting to

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Speaker 8: prove that he can have the job. But part of

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Speaker 8: that is being able to say, hey, look let's go

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Speaker 8: rip this ball down the field and trust my guy's

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Speaker 8: going to make the play at the fifteen yards down

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Speaker 8: the field. And I don't think I don't think Shduer

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Speaker 8: looks like that guy that's going to do that.

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Speaker 1: What is it that Daniel Jones is hurt? Is that

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Speaker 1: why he's not running as much? What's happened to the Colts?

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Speaker 1: They went from a dynamic team to one that's kind

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Speaker 1: of limping to the finish line.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of that. I

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Speaker 8: think it's that Johnson Taylor's, you know, the heartbeat of

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Speaker 8: that team. Kind of what we saw was Saquon Barklay

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Speaker 8: last year. Why the Eagles feel okay this year even

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Speaker 8: though they're having a very good season for NFL standards.

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Speaker 8: You know, people are like, I was wrong with the Eagles. Well,

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Speaker 8: Saquon Barkley's not running as well. I'd say that Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 8: like as a defensive coordinator, and if I play the

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Speaker 8: Colts and you're going to beat me with Alex Pierce. Fine,

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Speaker 8: I'll lose, but I'm not gonna let you run Jonathon

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Speaker 8: Taylor down my throat twenty eight times for one hundred

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Speaker 8: and forty two yards. I'm just not going to do that.

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Speaker 8: And so I think that's what cordinators are doing. It's like, hey, look,

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Speaker 8: he can beat us anywhere else, we're just going to

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Speaker 8: stop the run. And that means the quarterback as well.

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Speaker 8: And so I think it's a combination. I think they

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Speaker 8: can find their magic, though. I don't think the Colts

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Speaker 8: are done. I think that they're going to be a

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Speaker 8: dangerous out in the playoffs, uh, you know, because I

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Speaker 8: think that they can find that with Johnathan Pale and

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Speaker 8: have those kind of games. But right now, I think

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Speaker 8: that's the whole focus of every defense coordinators to slow

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Speaker 8: down that run game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're I think you're right. This is

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Speaker 1: the Doug out Leaves show. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: How good is Seattle really?

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Speaker 8: I like him a lot. I actually think they're really good.

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Speaker 8: I think that, you know, they've got a better offensive

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Speaker 8: line now going you know, Uh, I think that's a

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Speaker 8: big piece of it. I think they've got a combination

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Speaker 8: running game and they're just playing smart defensively, and really

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Speaker 8: that's who he is. I mean, when you hired coach McDonald,

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Speaker 8: you were hiring a defensive genius from the Ravens, and

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Speaker 8: everybody knew he was a genius. Ever he wasn't sure

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Speaker 8: what's he going to be like as head coach. I

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Speaker 8: had a chance to spend some time with him at

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Speaker 8: the owners meetings down in South Florida this last offseason

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Speaker 8: and really enjoyed my conversation with him and just and

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Speaker 8: I could see why John Schneider picked him to be

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Speaker 8: the head coach. And I think he does a good

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Speaker 8: job of educating guys. And players want nothing more than

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Speaker 8: Doug is. They want to feel like they're getting better

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Speaker 8: and smarter in the game, and they'll play better because

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Speaker 8: of it. When a player walks into a room and

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Speaker 8: they're looking at the coach and they're like, I don't

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Speaker 8: know if this guy knows more than I do, that's

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Speaker 8: a problem. I think in defense, you can't know more

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Speaker 8: than the coach. He's that smart and he's that good,

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Speaker 8: and I think that's really helping Seattle, let alone, what

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Speaker 8: Sam Darnold's doing, What they're doing offensively. I think the

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Speaker 8: defensive part is the confidence is really good in this

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Speaker 8: football team.

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Speaker 1: Stell Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's not going to play the remainder of the season.

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Speaker 1: What happens to Kyler Murray moving forward?

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Speaker 8: I have a feeling, you know, many Austin Forth, the

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Speaker 8: general manager there, has made the decisions. This is not

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Speaker 8: their quarterback of the future. He didn't sign, he didn't

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Speaker 8: draft him, he didn't sign to the extension. But he's

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Speaker 8: given him an opportunity. I think that they're going to

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Speaker 8: try to move on. If they can move him, great,

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Speaker 8: If they can't and they're just going to walk away,

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Speaker 8: they will. You know, the salary cap is going up

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Speaker 8: so dramatically over these last few years, it should do

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Speaker 8: it again that you can walk away from some of

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Speaker 8: these quarterback deals used to never be able to walk

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Speaker 8: away from. And so I think Arizona's in that position

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Speaker 8: where they can say, hey, look, we're going to find

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Speaker 8: the new person. The season has not gone the way

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Speaker 8: I thought it even go for Arizona. I thought they'd

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Speaker 8: kind of be one of the sleeper A NFC teams.

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Speaker 8: They're asleep. So they're not sleepers, but I think they're

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Speaker 8: going to be high enough in the draft to be

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Speaker 8: able to be a player in terms of getting a

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Speaker 8: young quarterback for the future that fits what they want

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Speaker 8: to be in the mold that they're trying to create

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Speaker 8: there in Arizona. So I think Calambury has played his

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Speaker 8: last game. I don't think he played his last game

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Speaker 8: in the NFL, but I think he's played his last

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Speaker 8: game in Ears on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chiefs. What's wrong?

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Speaker 8: Well, the offensive line. You know, this goes back to

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Speaker 8: always what's wrong with the Chiefs is when the line

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Speaker 8: falls apart and then we see, you know, it looks

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Speaker 8: like Tray Smith's probably isn't playing. Juwant Taylor's not playing.

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Speaker 8: And when the Chiefs don't have a very good offensive

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Speaker 8: line the Bucks in the Super Bowl. The Chiefs just

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Speaker 8: struggle as a football team. And that's why when they

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Speaker 8: went out and got Joe Thuney and then they tried to,

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Speaker 8: you know, really fix the offensive line Orlando Browns a

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Speaker 8: little bit. That's really what the hallmark is for them

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Speaker 8: because then it allows Patrick Mahomes to do his magic.

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Speaker 8: Now Patrick Mahomes are rushing everything and trying to create

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Speaker 8: some magic, and I think the other thing on the

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Speaker 8: other side of the ball is just puer speed. They

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Speaker 8: just don't have it. I just don't feel like it's

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Speaker 8: a fast football team, especially in the front seven, and

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Speaker 8: they're missing that a lot. And they tried to fix

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Speaker 8: it a couple of years ago in the first round

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Speaker 8: pick with Felix out of Kansas State, but he's just

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Speaker 8: not really kind of found a way to get a

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Speaker 8: role in the defense. They have to have somebody that

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Speaker 8: can throw a fastball on defense. They don't have that.

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Speaker 8: That's really what's hurting on the defensive side.

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Speaker 2: Mark is the best man. I really appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to the end, but now you're starting to

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Speaker 1: see the separation that haves and have not so trying

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Speaker 1: to figure.

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Speaker 2: Out who's who's Who's any good? Hey, last last one.

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Speaker 1: We're actually I forget Monday Night Eagles Chargers charge has

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Speaker 1: been banged up forever, getting a little healthier. But now

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Speaker 1: no Carter for the Eagles. How much does that change

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Speaker 1: them in their pass rush?

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Speaker 8: I think it changes a ton. I think they need

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Speaker 8: Carter desperately and to have, you know, the soldiers or

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Speaker 8: the surgery work on Carter. Hopefully that means that he'll

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Speaker 8: be back in time to the postseason, because they need

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Speaker 8: Jalen Carter. I think he's a big part of what

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Speaker 8: they do and and certainly a beast on the inside

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Speaker 8: that he just can't handle from a physical standpoint and

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Speaker 8: you know, from a just a pure strength standpoint, and

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Speaker 8: so I think it's a good matchup. I still think

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Speaker 8: the Eagles will be the better team. Chargers of my

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Speaker 8: AFC team, I thought it was a sleeper. They've done

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Speaker 8: a really good job where I thought, you know, I

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Speaker 8: don't know that was a big sleeper. Arizona's my NFC team.

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Speaker 8: Philly is the team I think we're gonna see a

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Speaker 8: lot more stake on Barkley. I think now it's time

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Speaker 8: to jump on the horse and ride it all the

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Speaker 8: way through December into the postseason. They've got him healthy,

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Speaker 8: Let's run him to make sure we try to find

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Speaker 8: a way to make sure we get this number one

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Speaker 8: seed and be in position to re you know, run

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Speaker 8: back a Super Bowl and you know, really be the

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Speaker 8: team that maybe we talk more of the dynasty. I

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Speaker 8: love the Chargers. I just think the offensive line is

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Speaker 8: going to come back and haunt them. Losing your starting

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Speaker 8: two tackles is really tough to overcome. They've done a

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Speaker 8: good job with it, but I still think the Eagles

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Speaker 8: are a fundamentally overall better team.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Mark Domin spent over twenty years and then fell front

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Speaker 1: tamp Bay Buccaneers. Get his thoughts on last night's game.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of last night's game, instead of worrying about me

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Speaker 1: pushing a stool out of the way on the way

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Speaker 1: out of our our arena, we could have watched the

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Speaker 1: highlights or low lights of George Pickens last night. Here's

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, future Hall of Fame cornerback on George Pickens

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Speaker 1: after the game, the big story.

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Speaker 4: Here's George Pickens. George Pickens throughout the game, especially late

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Speaker 4: in the game, just looked uninterested, uninterested in playing football,

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Speaker 4: you know, and that's what you can't have if you're

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Speaker 4: gonna be a superstar, if you want to be the

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Speaker 4: best receiver in the National Football League, can ever be disengaged.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if the game's going your way, are

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Speaker 4: not going your way. You can't just disappear in these

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Speaker 4: games or else you're not gonna have impact. And just

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Speaker 4: right here, cruising cruising routes, you're the guy, You're the

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Speaker 4: guy ceedee Lamba's not in this game. He's out and

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Speaker 4: you get intercepted on your slant routes and you can't

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Speaker 4: be the guy in half ascid. I'm sorry, that's just

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Speaker 4: you can't. It's unacceptable. And if you're the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 4: and you're looking at him and you're looking to pay

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Speaker 4: him big time receiver money forty million dollars, you gotta

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Speaker 4: look at this tape and say, hey, is this a

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Speaker 4: guy we can trust paying forty million dollars to show

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Speaker 4: up regardless of circumstance. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's it's really a great point.

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Speaker 1: It's really really a great point in that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're just honest with yourself, we have this on

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Speaker 1: my basketball team right where it doesn't really matter how

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Speaker 1: talented you are putting the ball in the basket. If

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Speaker 1: you're not willing to sacrifice the little things to be

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Speaker 1: better as a part of a team, then it doesn't

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Speaker 1: You can't play a guy like that.

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Speaker 2: Engagement is everything.

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Speaker 1: Anybody can go over the middle can when the ball

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Speaker 1: is thrown along to you in a huge game, when

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Speaker 1: he got a chance to win it, anybody can run

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Speaker 1: all out. It's when you think you're going to lose.

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Speaker 1: Will you still play?

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Speaker 2: That's what a professional does. Will you still play hard?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll be completely honest with you. I did

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Speaker 1: not watch every snap because I was coaching a basketball game,

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Speaker 1: But upon review of the game and then watching the highlights,

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Speaker 1: you're like, holy cow. And the question I would have

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer is, you know, if you really want to

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Speaker 1: make a point and you see the video, you got

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Speaker 1: to not play him the next game, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that would be pretty extreme for what

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Speaker 3: did and didn't happen last night. But the highlights do

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Speaker 3: not do George Pickens any favors. And if you just

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Speaker 3: look at the three routes that stood out the most,

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Speaker 3: including the long shot that Dallas tried to take when

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Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb was knocked out after Ceedee Lamb was knocked

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Speaker 3: out of the game, and not even making an effort

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Speaker 3: does not look good on Pickens. Now, I don't think

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Speaker 3: that what his effort or like thereof is worthy of

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Speaker 3: a benching, but I do think you have to get

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Speaker 3: to the bottom of it. You have to find out

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Speaker 3: why does this happen? Short week is out of the

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Speaker 3: window because they played last Thursday. There was some reason

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Speaker 3: why George Pickens just didn't make any effort on certain routes.

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Speaker 3: And just a couple of weeks ago he had nine

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Speaker 3: catches on nine targets from Dak Prescott and that's heck,

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Speaker 3: that's tough to do. Seven of eight, sure top connections,

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Speaker 3: eight of ten, nine of nine. They connected every time

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Speaker 3: he threw them. So there wasn't just one time where

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Speaker 3: George Pickens had to fight for something. Of course he did.

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Speaker 3: Why he didn't last night, I don't know, but I

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Speaker 3: don't think.

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Speaker 2: But why wouldn't you mention him?

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Speaker 3: Because I don't think that you could sit there and

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Speaker 3: say you didn't run hard on these three routes, you're

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Speaker 3: not going to play the next time. I think they

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Speaker 3: got to figure out a reason on why things happened

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Speaker 3: last night, and if they don't like those answers, then

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Speaker 3: you don't commit the long term money to it. Cowboys

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00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: also have a slim chance of making the playoffs, but

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Speaker 3: it's still a chance. And now with ceedee lamp status

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Speaker 3: in the air, you kind of need George Pickens. I

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Speaker 3: don't think that they need to make any grandiose statement

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Speaker 3: by benching him, but I would definitely have second thoughts.

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Speaker 3: If this is what you're trying to sort out and

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Speaker 3: giving him a long term deal.

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Speaker 5: Could I bring something? Can I bring something to the

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Speaker 5: table here? It's a cliche and it also has alliteration,

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Speaker 5: which I love. Past is prologue. Don't you have to

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Speaker 5: take what we've experienced from George Pickens in Pittsburgh into

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Speaker 5: account when you factor in your thought process on giving

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Speaker 5: him long term money. There was also a report that

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Speaker 5: they are thinking about franchising him, or they communicated to

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Speaker 5: the agent that they're going to franchise him, and that

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Speaker 5: has been consistent. That information has been consistent with his

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Speaker 5: lack of effort or what have you in the last

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Speaker 5: couple of weeks. But he's lost the benefit of the doubt.

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Speaker 5: Right If I was to say to you, Hey, George

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Speaker 5: Pickens chose not to try hard because he was told

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Speaker 5: that he wasn't going to get going to get the contract.

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Speaker 5: Would that surprise you?

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Speaker 3: No, I And to the point Jason, I would not

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Speaker 3: be surprised at all if this was in response to

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Speaker 3: the franchise tag scuttle butt that has been going on,

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Speaker 3: saying like I don't want the franchise tag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not going to play hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ridiculous exactly.

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Speaker 1: But Dan, if you allow it, you're either coaching it

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Speaker 1: or allowing it. Right, the coaching and allowing it. And

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Speaker 1: Brian Schoenheimer's not gonna get hired or fired based upon

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Speaker 1: this season. They've overachieved based upon what everybody thought is reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Like dude, if he's not going to go hard after

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Speaker 1: a football in a game which is still at least

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Speaker 1: on some level up in the air, like dude, goodbye,

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Speaker 1: or to sit for a siper week and see what

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Speaker 1: that does.

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Speaker 3: So on two of the plays he was double covered,

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Speaker 3: and then I'm not making excuses for him, but I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that's his reasoning and his rant that he made

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Speaker 3: to Richard Sherman online after those comments. He brought those

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Speaker 3: points up. Maybe he thinks it's it's pointless, that's ridiculous

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Speaker 3: to think that, but maybe that's what's going through his mind.

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Speaker 3: I just also think, like you try to treat everybody fair,

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Speaker 3: you can't treat everybody the same. And the Cowboys actually

853
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Speaker 3: need George Pickens. They needed him last night. That would

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Speaker 3: have helped. And if you don't have Ceedee Lamb, it

855
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Speaker 3: just is a lot more difficult for you to get

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Speaker 3: something done. And so that's why I don't think that

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Speaker 3: you would suspend him at that.

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Speaker 1: Listen, there's no question you are a more talented team

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Speaker 1: and you have a better shot on paper of making

860
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Okay, and if you don't have cdee Lamb, boy,

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Speaker 1: you're not giving your team a great shot. But I

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00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: do think that for your team, you can sell it

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Speaker 1: to him as hey, we're just not gonna take anybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys never do it because they don't.

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Speaker 1: But that's why the Cowboys are always under achievers. That's

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Speaker 1: literally it again again. Maybe I'm in fantasy land. I

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Speaker 1: have an I'm gonna there was one I should that too.

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Speaker 1: I probably should have played last night. We just we

869
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: also got really tired. But I have guys on my

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00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: roster that talent wise should be playing, but they haven't

871
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: been fully engaged. They're not willing to do the little things,

872
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Speaker 1: and so I will sacrifice, you know, minutes to guys

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Speaker 1: that are fully engaged, even they're not as talented.

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Speaker 2: I believe that's the only way in which you build it.

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Speaker 1: You make it so that everybody plays to the utmost,

876
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Speaker 1: no matter how much time, whatever the score is.

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Speaker 2: That's just a belief of mine.

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Speaker 1: Granted, you do run the risk of not having enough

879
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Speaker 1: football talent and losing the game because of it.

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Speaker 3: I also think if you suspend him that really or

881
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Speaker 3: don't play him, that really lessens the opportunity that he

882
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Speaker 3: may come back. And I know what you're gonna say,

883
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Speaker 3: Doug is fine, we don't want a guy like that, correct,

884
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Speaker 3: But I think that this is I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: dallas On. Do you franchise tag him or do you

886
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Speaker 3: give him the contract that he wants. What is the

887
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Speaker 3: constant of that is that George Pickens is a cowboy

888
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six. So now if you're benching him,

889
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you have to coddle to everything that

890
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Speaker 3: he wants, but this I think would have the opposite effect.

891
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Speaker 3: And maybe you're getting the answer that you need to

892
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Speaker 3: know by saying this. But if you bench him, I

893
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Speaker 3: don't think that there's any chance at the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Don't franchise tagment, doesn't that.

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Speaker 3: No, but I would do you think George Pickens is

896
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Speaker 3: going to want to be there, which he's not happy

897
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Speaker 3: on a franchise tag, And now he's not happy because

898
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: the team ends up you know, throwing uh you know,

899
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Speaker 3: ends up suspending him for one game for what they

900
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Speaker 3: perceived was a lack of effort.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what you're doing is you're coaching, like in

902
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: college coaching, you're coaching out of fear for next year

903
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and fear out of Hey, he may be happy, unhappy,

904
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Speaker 1: he may leave, he may not resign. And again that's

905
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: a this is the really hard part about it. Okay,

906
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: Like in college basketball, you bench guys, they can they

907
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: can leave at the end of the year. Heck, they

908
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: can leave whenever they want, and nothing you can do

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00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: about it. Whatever My point is, it doesn't matter what

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00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: you pay him or how much you do. If if

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Speaker 1: you don't nip this in the butt now, if you

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00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: make that in any way, okay, acceptable then even when

913
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Speaker 1: you give him the money, if you want him to stay,

914
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Speaker 1: he's going to be a dog anyway.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't change.

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Speaker 1: Leopards don't just change their spots over night, especially if

917
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Speaker 1: this is in regards to a contract thing. You're talking

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Speaker 1: in a regular season coming off the biggest win of

919
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Speaker 1: the year, and that's how you act.

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Speaker 2: I don't want you're right, you're right right.

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Speaker 1: Remember it's still George Pickens. It's still the guy that

922
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh could not stand they drafted him. He's super talented,

923
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Speaker 1: they couldn't stand. So I don't think he's gonna have

924
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Speaker 1: Like do I think you have value elsewhere? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: those guys are really hard to win with. They are

926
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh obviously not as talented without him, but they're gonna

927
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Speaker 1: have the same records they had without him as that

928
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Speaker 1: with him, because those guys don't help you win. There's

929
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Speaker 1: sometimes guys this.

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Speaker 3: To me in a Dallas uniform is and that's what

931
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Speaker 3: I think he can be judged on in the immediacy

932
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Speaker 3: is a first time offense. Whether you want to take

933
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Speaker 3: his history in Pittsburgh into giving him a long term

934
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Speaker 3: deal or using the franchise franchise tag that is different.

935
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Speaker 3: But I think if this is just a one off

936
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Speaker 3: of like, man, what went on last night, and if

937
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Speaker 3: there was a reason, or it wasn't a reason, whatever

938
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Speaker 3: the case may be, that then deals with the immediate

939
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Speaker 3: immediate see of does he play the next game or not?

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Speaker 3: But then you take all of the information and try

941
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Speaker 3: to decide because he has been really good, like he's

942
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Speaker 3: been really really good.

943
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Speaker 2: No, he's super talented.

944
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Speaker 3: So for one game to throw it out, you know,

945
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Speaker 3: just after one game.

946
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Speaker 1: Ya twenty two And I don't know if that, but

947
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Speaker 1: but if this is a reaction to the franchise tag like, hey,

948
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Speaker 1: you're not you want a big contract, this is how

949
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Speaker 1: you perform, We're gonna pay you top five average salaries.

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Speaker 2: Here's Jerry Jones, the owner, after the game, he.

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Speaker 9: Didn't have the game, that he's been happy, but effort.

952
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Speaker 9: I would be very careful with him going there. This

953
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Speaker 9: guy is a is a he's explosive with his temperament.

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Speaker 9: And I say that in a positive way. So I

955
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Speaker 9: don't think so much it was effort, but I might not.

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Speaker 9: But but I don't necessarily have a good explanation as

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Speaker 9: to why he didn't show up more. But no, I'm

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Speaker 9: not at all concerned going forward about Pickens. I would

959
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Speaker 9: agree with you. I thought we would have more with

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Speaker 9: him than we did.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought I would have thought we'd had

962
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Speaker 1: more with him than we did without him.

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Speaker 2: That's by and large.

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Speaker 9: I've been thinking about it a lot.

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Speaker 3: In a shower, I will say that I think Jerry

966
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Speaker 3: Jones and I are on the same page.

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Speaker 2: I think you are. I think you are, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's what's going to happen.