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Speaker 1: become free agents, and Michael Gallup and Cedric Wilson two

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Speaker 1: pretty good receivers, and so Cooper at twenty million, they've

427
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Speaker 1: apparently decided is too rich for one player. They'd rather

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Speaker 1: have two younger players and pay each of them less

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Speaker 1: money to keep both of them rather than just a

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Speaker 1: Marii Cooper. And Jerry Jones has been a victim of

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Speaker 1: this in the past, paying too much to keep star players,

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Speaker 1: and then a year or two down the road he's

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Speaker 1: in a financial problem because he's paying guys too much money, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got an albatross of a contract with

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, and now he's got a contract that he

436
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Speaker 1: wants to try to get out from under in Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting, be interesting too. Can you see anybody

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Speaker 1: taking out a twenty million dollar contract from Amari Cooper.

439
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Speaker 1: They cannot gonna be able to trade him, not for

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Speaker 1: that price tag. They'll release him outright right, And everybody

441
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: else in the league knows it too, So nobody's swapping

442
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Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can wait till the

443
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Speaker 1: Cowboys cut it. We can talk all we want about

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys there's no way I'd be paying Mamary Cooper

445
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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars. But I wouldn't be paying Zeke Elliot

446
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Speaker 1: sixteen either. Yeah, that guy would be well, and that's

447
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Speaker 1: their fault. That would be out the door. That guy'd

448
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Speaker 1: be out the door as fast as I could unlock it. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: but you know they do their own thing. Well, yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: and they will. You know, That's just kind of the

451
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Speaker 1: way it'll go. And it's it's this is going to

452
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Speaker 1: be interesting. This free agent market, Steve is going to

453
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Speaker 1: be very interesting because, as Brandon Bean told us on Tuesday,

454
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Speaker 1: even though you're even though the cap went up, it's

455
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Speaker 1: still not where it should have been in terms of

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Speaker 1: where NFL Front Office is forecasted it would be in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. It's still behind by about fifteen eighteen

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Right, it's still behind by maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: five to eight percent of the total, which if it's

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Speaker 1: two hundred and twelve, I mean, do the man two

461
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Speaker 1: o eight this year? Right, If it's two eight and

462
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Speaker 1: they're down by by what should have been about two eighteen,

463
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: you're looking at sixteen million bucks. It's off. And so

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Speaker 1: Brandon being confirmed for US here on the show earlier

465
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Speaker 1: this week that yes, they've got some tough decisions coming up,

466
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Speaker 1: and he said they would handle most of those mid

467
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Speaker 1: to late next week, because that's all that's all the

468
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Speaker 1: time you have before free agency opens the following Monday,

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Speaker 1: when the negotiating window opens on March fourteenth, and then

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Speaker 1: the market officially opens to formally sign people on the sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, the combine is as late as

472
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Speaker 1: it's ever been on the calendar, and you're going to

473
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Speaker 1: get back from the combine and a week later you

474
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Speaker 1: can start negotiating with free agents. So you're gonna have

475
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Speaker 1: a lot of business to take care of with respect

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Speaker 1: to the health of your salary cap and the room

477
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Speaker 1: you have under it to make the necessary free agent

478
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Speaker 1: acquisitions you feel you have to go out and compete

479
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Speaker 1: for on the open market. So Cole Beasley evidently is

480
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Speaker 1: one of those difficult decisions, and we'll have to see

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Speaker 1: what comes of it. So that's kind of where we

482
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Speaker 1: are and where it goes from here. I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you think anybody's remotely interested in a thirty three

484
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Speaker 1: year old Cole Beasley? Yeah, that cap figure. Yes, there'll

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Speaker 1: be teams that would could use a veteran guy in

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Speaker 1: their room, a guy who's won a lot of games

487
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Speaker 1: and been with a couple of different teams, a true

488
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Speaker 1: veteran who knows the common denominators of all really good

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Speaker 1: teams and can relay that to your young players. And

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Speaker 1: really they would only be base salary of four point

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Speaker 1: nine million. That would be their base salary for a

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Speaker 1: one year flyer. That's that's palatable easily for guy like

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, that's easily. That's just that's just a little

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Speaker 1: bit more than what you know, siran Neil's making is

495
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Speaker 1: a special teams guy. Yeah, so yeah, it's a it's

496
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Speaker 1: a contract that I think a lot of teams could

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Speaker 1: fit under their cap and feel like they're still going

498
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Speaker 1: to get bonifid production out of him right within the

499
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Speaker 1: scope of their offense. All Right, we have to take

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Speaker 1: a break, but when we come back, we will be

501
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Speaker 1: joined by ESPN NFL analyst Ryan Clark, who's going to

502
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Speaker 1: kind of give us the four one one on the

503
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Speaker 1: quarterback market coming up here in free agency, including the

504
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Speaker 1: potential destinations of one Mitchell Trubisky really have a chance

505
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Speaker 1: to start next year. It's looking that way. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to him next. Here on one Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Collid to Help, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: one Bills five, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and

509
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Speaker 1: please to be joined now by ESPN NFL analyst Ryan Clark.

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Speaker 1: How long you've been here, Ryan? You've been here like

511
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Speaker 1: no the days now like two or three days. Man,

512
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's been good. Realize that the coaches come

513
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: here to hang out, get away from the building. But

514
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Speaker 1: also you know, look at some of these prospects have

515
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Speaker 1: the meetings and talking to to to them. I've learned

516
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Speaker 1: that it's not about the on field stuff, right, They

517
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: care about who the guy is, like the way you

518
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Speaker 1: do that you present and so that's usually what I've

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Speaker 1: talked about over a couple of drinks every night at

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Speaker 1: Saint Almost. Yeah, I was there last night. So, um,

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Speaker 1: have you gotten a chance to talk to because we've

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Speaker 1: noticed this as well, coaches coming This is the GM

523
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Speaker 1: and the scouts here, this is their super Bowl kind

524
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Speaker 1: of grinding it out. But the coaches come in here

525
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Speaker 1: for the first time and you know, months and months

526
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Speaker 1: and months where they got their guard down and they

527
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: are you know, yucking it up a little bit, and

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Speaker 1: they'll talk to you and they're not worried about giving

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Speaker 1: away a competitive advantage. If you had a chance to

530
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Speaker 1: touch base with any of the guys, you know, you

531
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Speaker 1: know what, and take advantage of that, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I will say, probably the best UM conversation I've had

533
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Speaker 1: this entire week was with Lou aum Right, who was

534
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Speaker 1: the defensive of the Cincinnati Bengals, and I did a

535
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: couple of breakdowns of his defense and certain things that

536
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: they've done throughout the season UM and just talking to

537
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Speaker 1: him and trying to figure out how teams progress. He

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Speaker 1: talked about Joe Burrow, he talked about protecting Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: He talked about the way he was utilizing guys like

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Speaker 1: Logan Wilson and Jesse Bates in the playoffs, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, those are the most interesting conversations to have.

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Speaker 1: Last night, I sat down with Dan Quinnon and we

543
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Speaker 1: just actually weren't even talking about the specifics of the

544
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We were just talking about football in general.

545
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Speaker 1: His excitement that Brian Young, Brian Young got into the

546
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and the part that you can play

547
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Speaker 1: in some of those things coaching with Nick Saban and

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Speaker 1: I think that's the that's the cool part about this week.

549
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Speaker 1: All of us loved the game of football. All of

550
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Speaker 1: us have grown up or have made a living doing this.

551
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Speaker 1: But to get an opportunity to sit around with people

552
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Speaker 1: who loved the game as much as you do and

553
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Speaker 1: have those conversations as awesome. So he talked about lou

554
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: and Rumo and his defense progressing. Let's talking about the

555
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Speaker 1: progression of the Buffalo Bills. I thought, I keep telling Brownie,

556
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Speaker 1: even though they lost by two touchdowns, love Brownie. The

557
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: two years ago when they lost the ANC Championship game

558
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Speaker 1: by two touchdowns, I thought they were good enough that

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Speaker 1: year to play and go to and get in the

560
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Certainly they were good enough to go to

561
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Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl this year. But what what

562
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Speaker 1: do you have to do? And people are saying, let's

563
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: just get over the hump. Let's just get over the hump.

564
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Speaker 1: And my advice has been and my mantra has been listening.

565
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Speaker 1: You're doing fine. You're giving yourself a shot at the

566
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Speaker 1: ring every year. Let's just keep on doing. Don't change anything.

567
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: And there's there's no little magic elixir that you can

568
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: find that's going to preach over the top. Just keep

569
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Speaker 1: doing your things. Yeah, you know, you know, Steve, you

570
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: know you've been on great football teams and football teams

571
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: to have opportunities to win Super Bowl. You also know

572
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: that every team doesn't start a season that win, right, Right,

573
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Speaker 1: there are some teams that going into next year, we're

574
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Speaker 1: gonna say that team can't win a Super Bowl, and

575
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Speaker 1: that team's gonna know that's not the Buffalo Bills. Obviously,

576
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's progression is part of the team's progression. As

577
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Speaker 1: he continues to be an MVP caliber quarterback, they continue

578
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Speaker 1: to win football games. And when you look at last

579
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Speaker 1: year as opposed to the year before when they were

580
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Speaker 1: in an AFC championship, I feel like this team was better, right,

581
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Speaker 1: I feel like the team this year was better. I

582
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Speaker 1: feel like Josh Allen played played larger in the huge

583
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Speaker 1: moments of the season. When you look at that stretch run,

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Speaker 1: especially after they lose to New England and the freaking

585
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Speaker 1: wind Bowl, Right, Josh Allen's acceleration of play, the way

586
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Speaker 1: that he affected the game with his legs and his

587
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Speaker 1: arm was absolutely phenomenal. Gabriel Davis becoming a guy who

588
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Speaker 1: could possibly be a number one receiver when you already

589
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: have Stefan Diggs defensively to Davious White is obviously guy

590
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Speaker 1: I'm extremely close to, a guy I've trained, you know,

591
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: for part of his career, you know, not having him

592
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: in that game against Kansas City, I thought that was huge.

593
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Speaker 1: And even for a guy like Levi Wallace, who was

594
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Speaker 1: a starter, when you don't have a Trdavious White on

595
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Speaker 1: the other side of your Davious White that can lock

596
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: down a position, it's very difficult on you. And so

597
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I think this team can continue to improve. It's about

598
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Speaker 1: maintaining depth and also finding some impact players, whether it

599
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Speaker 1: be free agency or the draft, that can become leaders

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. Not only great players is huge.

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Speaker 1: Mitchell tribiscy big name it to combine. I'm telling you,

602
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: Malik Will has had a great throwing night last night.

603
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Speaker 1: And you know, they were talking about some other guys,

604
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Speaker 1: but I hear more than any of the prospects they

605
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Speaker 1: got all these bands of current stars, Trubisky should be

606
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Speaker 1: up there. That Trubisky is getting more buzz here this

607
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Speaker 1: week than any other quarterback name that I've heard. And

608
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Speaker 1: we understand why. I mean, you got teams desperate for

609
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Speaker 1: an answer at the position. I mean, you run down

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Speaker 1: the list Washington and Tampa, and I mean exactly, So

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Speaker 1: what do you you know when I know you kind

612
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Speaker 1: of have some ends there in Pittsburgh? Do you think

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Speaker 1: Trubisky is a legitimate consideration there? I do? I do.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Mitchell is a legit consideration because

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Speaker 1: he can be a bridge quarterback or maybe your franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that happens, and I always said, because

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Speaker 1: I was an undrafted free agent who you know, was

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Speaker 1: lucky that I tricked them for thirteen years, right that

619
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Speaker 1: like that, that's the job. Every year, I need to

620
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Speaker 1: trick you to get a job, feel you man, right,

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Speaker 1: and so and so and so. What I always said

622
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Speaker 1: was I felt like for thirteen years I had to

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Speaker 1: prove to people I can play football. What happens when

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Speaker 1: you drafted as high as Mitchell Trabiski your entire career,

625
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to prove that you can't. Right. And so,

626
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Speaker 1: now sitting out of year, not playing, the people not

627
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Speaker 1: necessarily having eyes on him, and now looking at the

628
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Speaker 1: quarterback market, you remember those elite traits that got him

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Speaker 1: drafted number two. Overall. You remember the arm strip, right,

630
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Speaker 1: You remember the ability to improv the ability to get

631
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Speaker 1: outside the pocket and use your legs to create plays.

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Speaker 1: And I think right now, coaches, executives, gms are looking

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Speaker 1: at those elite traits over the production in Chicago and

634
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Speaker 1: also compare it to what the other choices are, Like,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you give Mitchell? He went six and three

636
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Speaker 1: in his last nine starts in Chicago. He's got a

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Speaker 1: winning record with the Chicago Bears. I mean, there's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks. And they say that and I

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00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: know that too, that the shine came off Gaye in

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Speaker 1: Chicago and he came out. They had that eleven and five,

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Speaker 1: twelve and fourth season and you know, they got the

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Speaker 1: double doink out of the playoffs and then you know

643
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: they could never get it back. But you know, and

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Speaker 1: I we can go into that later. But this is

645
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Speaker 1: a guy who I think it says a lot about

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: him that he was willing to take a step back

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00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: and it was and realize it was so whether it

648
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: was whatever word you want to use, toxic in Chicago, whatever,

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00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: but he got with a staff And I mentioned this

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00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: before just before we came on. The Bills have a

651
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: real reputation now with Josh Allen, like, hey, those guys

652
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: can develop guys, and he got a year of that

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: under his belt. There's gotta be there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: expectations even now with Mitche Trubisky, who signs him. Listen, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: when you have the skill set that he has, when

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Speaker 1: you have the measurables that Mitchell Trubisky has, there's gonna

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00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: be expectations if you become the quarterback of a new team,

658
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: there's going to be also hopes. Right, people are going

659
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: to get excited to get Mitchell Trubisky. But because it's

660
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: not about what the reviews or the perception of him

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Speaker 1: in Chicago is. It's going to be about the skill set.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be about the level of talent. And

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Speaker 1: also it's gonna be Okay, you learned of the Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen or were they're under Brian day Ball and we've

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00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: seen what they can do with quarterbacks. We've seen how

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00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: they can teach you to not only be a pocket passer,

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Speaker 1: but also use some of your athleticism into in the

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Speaker 1: sense of making plays. And I think that's what mister

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Speaker 1: Drubisky wants though, like listen, nobody plays his game to

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Speaker 1: be a backup. You accept it. You accept being a

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Speaker 1: backup because it's better than being a mailman. Yeah. Well,

672
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: and he and he saw it as a career reset,

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Speaker 1: like let me just take a year, breathe a little bit,

674
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Speaker 1: make ten million dollars and he only he only made

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Speaker 1: two in a quarter. Still, I mean he might make it. Now,

676
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: he's gonna make more than that. Now. He still has

677
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Speaker 1: the perception and you we've seen it at this combine

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Speaker 1: when people are talking about him, he's like fresh out

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Speaker 1: of the package. Now, it's like they absolutely the perception

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00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: is they absolutely wasted him in Chicago and had no

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Speaker 1: idea what to do with him. He got worse, and

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00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: we know what to do with him now, right, Yeah,

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna fix it. And so that perception is big.

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Speaker 1: But aside from Mitch Drubisky, you know, it's all the

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Speaker 1: Air and Roger stuff, to Russe Wilson stuff, that Kyler

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00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: Murray stuff, Tom Brady, all of that stuff. While it

687
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: sounds kind of sexy to talk about one of those guys,

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like any of those guys are gonna

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00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: budge no, no, no, I think I think that all

690
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: of those situations stay the same. If if you're the

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00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, use drafted Kyler Murray number one overall. The

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Speaker 1: reason Cliff Kingsbury is your coach was because he had

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Speaker 1: the ties to Kyler Murray and you've already extended him.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're looking at that situation, I believe

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Speaker 1: these stays. I think Everon Rodgers stays in Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: and I think Tom and Gizille are gonna go do

697
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: like supermodel actors stuff, you know, and yeah, it's gonna

698
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: be something super dope. And so when you're looking at

699
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback market, there's like guys like Teddy Bridgewater, guys

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Speaker 1: like Jameis Winston, and I just don't believe that teams

701
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Speaker 1: are going to value them in a way where a

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00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: guy like Mitchell Zubiski isn't in play. But then you

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Speaker 1: also look at the draft. This is one of the

704
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: few drafts where we're like, we don't have that guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like well, like people don't think, don't know if Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett can walk into you're building day one to be

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Speaker 1: to start it. People don't know if Malik Willis can

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Speaker 1: do the same, and so I think that's going to

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Speaker 1: make free agency extremely interested. Last one I've got for you,

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00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: because I know you've got other obligations, is the receiver class.

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Speaker 1: They lit it up on the track last night. It's

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00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: deep again. It's deep every year now. It's like a

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00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: luxury that's expected for all these teams. The Bills have

714
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: an interesting decision to make there because they have Isaiah Mackenzie,

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Speaker 1: who was an interesting component to their offense, who was

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Speaker 1: a free agent, and then Cole Beasley is getting a

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00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: little long in the tooth. Gabe Davis is probably your

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Speaker 1: number two opposite Diggs next year. So you look at

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Speaker 1: some of these guys and you got slot people that

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Speaker 1: are pretty intriguing, like that Calvin Austin kid, the Wandale

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Speaker 1: Robinson kids from Kentucky. There's a place for those undersized

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00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: jitterbug guys in this league, right well there is. But

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Speaker 1: but here's also what happened, what has happened in the

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00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: game now, and I know Steve kind of tested this

725
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: as well, is that the way that number one receivers

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00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: move around, you don't have to look for a jitterbuga

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: right you can. You can get a Garrett Wilson or

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Speaker 1: Chris Alave or a trailing Burgs and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna move you into the slot because guys like

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, who I think is one of his top

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Speaker 1: two top three receiver in the league, Guys like Cooper

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Speaker 1: cup who is the best receiver historically that we've kind

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00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: of ever seen um this year, they can move into

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Speaker 1: the slot. And so now I think it's about figuring

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Speaker 1: out who are those guys in the second to the

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Speaker 1: fifth round that you can use to do those things,

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Speaker 1: and then having this draft that is deep at the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver position. I believe the Buffalo Bills can find that.

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Speaker 1: And you say deep at the wide receiver position, all

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00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: the stuff you just said, I think I agree with

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: completely because what they're looking for is guys who can

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Speaker 1: do all that, Yes, because they want matchups. If they

743
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: can get Steph Diggs matched up on Joey Bag of

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Donuts over here, anytime they shift and do that, they're

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00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I mean, that's their matchup, get to

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00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: and the defense can try and hide that guy, but

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Speaker 1: the offense, because of the versatility, the formations in motion,

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00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna find your guy. And if the more guys

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Speaker 1: you can win with in every situation. That's what you're

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Speaker 1: looking for. Is there guys in this class. Name a

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Speaker 1: couple in this class who can you know, be outside

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Speaker 1: on the on the boundary, be outside on the wide side,

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Speaker 1: or be in the middle or move around that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. So my, my, my favorite receiver from this

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00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: draft is Garrett Wilson. He does everything you know. I've

756
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Speaker 1: I've watched him. Um. I actually played against him in

757
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: seven or seven when he was in high school and

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00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: he freaking killed us. And at the time I had

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00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton and Derek Stingly on my team. We won though,

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Speaker 1: so Okay, I wasn't that bad of a coach. Played

761
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: well in a losing efforts effort. But you look at

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Speaker 1: a guy who has put return ability right. He's the

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Speaker 1: part return to Ohio States, so they let you know

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Speaker 1: he can get yards out and they trust him. Extremely

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Speaker 1: explosive goes for three four, three, nine, forty three eight

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Speaker 1: last night, so he shows you he has that type

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Speaker 1: of long speed. But the thing I love about him

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Speaker 1: is the versatility in the red zone right, being able

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Speaker 1: to high point the football. Also being a great route

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Speaker 1: runner and getting and getting and finding space for quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: to put the ball in and like the the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing I always tell receivers right, what I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: receivers is the quarterback can't feel like throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: to you is a risk of throwing the interception. He

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Speaker 1: has to know that you can get separation. He has

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Speaker 1: to know that you can catch the football, and he

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Speaker 1: has to be confident. I think Gary Wilson provides that

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Speaker 1: for any team that would draft it. Ryan, thanks very

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Speaker 1: much for the time to meet you. Guys have like

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Okay, we appreciate it. That's

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Speaker 1: our ESPN NFL analyst Ryan Clark. We take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but we're back with more live from the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: and Indie. I want Builds live Presentybody Collida helps. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you in case

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Speaker 1: you are just joining us. We are here live at

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Speaker 1: the NFL scouting Combine and Indie. Last day here and

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Speaker 1: there is news concerning the Bills roster. As reported by

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Speaker 1: NFL Networks Mike Garifolo, the Bills have given Cole Beasley

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Speaker 1: permission to seek a trade. This does not mean the

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Speaker 1: end of the relationship necessarily between the Bills and Cole Beasley,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly provides an option for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: And I think Steve and I are in agreement that

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Speaker 1: this is primarily a cap maneuver more than anything else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's economic, And I'll say this, this is why they

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Speaker 1: offered him the chance to go out and seek a trade.

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Speaker 1: He could find someplace that wants him, wants him to

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Speaker 1: play in, a chance to be maybe on the field

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Speaker 1: even more than he was here in Buffalo. And also

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Speaker 1: it tells, it gives it lets the market tell cole

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Speaker 1: Beasley what he's worth, so the Bills don't have to

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Speaker 1: thinking that it's going to be less than what Cole

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Speaker 1: Beasley would like, less than the number he's making. If

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Speaker 1: nobody out there wants him, then let the Bills not

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Speaker 1: be the ones to break the news to him. And

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Speaker 1: then they'll be able to bring him back and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna redo your deal, or we want

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00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: you to take a new contract, or you know, well,

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Speaker 1: we want you to play here, but not for that number.

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Speaker 1: It allows the market or another team to break the

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Speaker 1: news to Cole Beasley that he's making too much money.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 1: we talked to Rob in Tonawanda. What do you have

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Speaker 1: for us? Rob? Hey, guys, how are you doing good? Good?

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Speaker 1: Just just a quick question. I don't know what you

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Speaker 1: guys are going to think about this. Is there any

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Speaker 1: chance in your mind? And if it could happened, would

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Speaker 1: you want us to happen? I know he's injured a lot,

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Speaker 1: but any chance of maybe getting Beasley and someone else

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Speaker 1: for money or a draft picked to Carolina and get

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey in here. I know he's hurt all the time,

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Speaker 1: but no, I think I can't. No, No, Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: is making sixteen million dollars a year. There's no way,

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Speaker 1: not in this planet, that they're going to pay a

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Speaker 1: running back sixteen million dollars here Christian McCaffrey or Jim Brown,

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Speaker 1: or you know, Barry Sanders or anybody you know the way,

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Speaker 1: Mike the way Mike Garafolo reported it was the Beasley

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Speaker 1: camp approached the Bills and asked permission to seek a

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Speaker 1: trade that was granted by the Bills, and to me,

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills are in agreement because they know

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Speaker 1: they have to make some cost cutting maneuvers here and

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Speaker 1: Beasley would save them six point one on the cap

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Speaker 1: they could get looking to get a sixteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: running back back in return. Think about a team that

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Speaker 1: was looking for a guy who could contribute, at least

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Speaker 1: on a short term basis, at least give a sixth

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Speaker 1: round draft pick to the Bills for Cole Beasley. A

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Speaker 1: team with a lot of cap room needs somebody who's

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Speaker 1: a possession receiver. A team like Philly who needs a

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Speaker 1: guy that is an outlet for Jalen Hurts, they send

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Speaker 1: over a fifth, sixth seventh rounder for Cole Beasley. Beasley

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Speaker 1: goes on their cap. I don't even know what their

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Speaker 1: cap is. They and don't have the room for this,

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Speaker 1: But the Bills get a draft pick, they drop the

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Speaker 1: all that cap money goes away, and they get a

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Speaker 1: draft pick um plus. I think at this point, since

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Speaker 1: Beasley's camp approach the Bills, I think the Bills it's

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00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: there been the way they do business too. If players

850
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: want that, they kind of give players what they want.

851
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: In these regards because it sets it's a great message

852
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: to get out to the free agent market and around

853
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: the league that hey, when when you're not happy or what,

854
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: they're going to do their best to take care of

855
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: you and get you someplace you are. That's a big

856
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: that's a big that's a big message. The way Mike

857
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: Erfolo is reporting this came to be, namely the Beasley

858
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: camp going to the Bills and say we would like

859
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: to seek a trade. Can we get your permission? Bills

860
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: grant permission. It obviously means that Beasley would prefer to

861
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: be somewhere else. That's that's the main impetus here. Yeah,

862
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: either he doesn't like the way he was being used

863
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: or doesn't like the atmosphere, or for whatever reason. We

864
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: men never know. And I'm but I'm you know, in

865
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: this day and age with somebody, WHI try and find

866
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: out why I didn't like it in Buffler wanted to

867
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: leave or what changed basically or what changed for him? Yeah, um,

868
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: so there you go, it will see. It's interesting though

869
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: that he came to the Bills I said I want

870
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: to trade. I think he thinks he's rightfully so he's

871
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: got some football left in him. He probably to back

872
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: seasons of eighty two receptions and he probably saw the

873
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: riding on the wall and said, you know, they're going

874
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: to try and get me to do redo my deal.

875
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: But if I get traded, that other team will either

876
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: extend me and give me more money or I'll get

877
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: this money. Yeah, because they because they want me right. Yeah,

878
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna you know, I get a chance to

879
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: play more right because down the stretch he did play less.

880
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean that is just fact. We take a break here,

881
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: but when we return, second hour of the show will

882
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: be kicked off with our good friend, senior producer from

883
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: NFL Films, Greg Cosell, whose conversation was going to be

884
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: on the wide receivers in this draft that takes on

885
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: a whole new meaning now with this Cole Beasley news

886
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: that came down from NFL Networks, My careful. So we'll

887
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: talk with Greg next here on One Bills Live, presented

888
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio and a

889
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

890
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player

891
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even in

892
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: the stragedyer of normalcy. All right, here we are our

893
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: number two on a Friday live at the NFL Scouting

894
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: Combine and Indie Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and a good

895
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: friend of the show joining us here for our final hour.

896
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: From Indie, it is senior producer from NFL Films, Greg

897
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: co Sell, who's been making the rounds and grinding the tape.

898
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: Do you bring your tape on the road with you?

899
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Do you have a ready made laptop with files and

900
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: you're ready to pull at the moment's notice. You know,

901
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that I don't, by the way,

902
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: for various reasons, we got to get them to work on.

903
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like I'm way behind this

904
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: year because last year, unfortunately, because I did not go

905
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and there was no combine, I

906
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: actually had nine ten more days of being in the

907
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: office watching tape. You know what happens when you're there, right,

908
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: And so I was. I was way ahead of the

909
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: game last year, whereas this year we just had the

910
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. It seemed like last week and now here's

911
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: the now now here's the combine. So I'm losing those

912
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: days of being able to watch tape, and I it

913
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: frustrates me. Yeah, I know that you're one of those people.

914
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Were you on the field for some of these tests

915
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: and the yeah, yeah, I was okay. So give me overall,

916
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: name a guy or two or a handful of guys

917
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: that were like, oh I didn't I knew, I didn't

918
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: know that about him or I didn't. This surprised me

919
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: when I saw it. In all honesty, Steve, I don't

920
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: take and this is just me. And I know that

921
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: if you talk to scouts and gms and all that,

922
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: they'll tell you it's a part of the process. I

923
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: don't watch it that seriously, you know. I I just

924
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: feel like to me and and by the way, I

925
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: did speak to a team that thinks there's almost zero

926
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: importance to this. By the way, you know, I'm talking

927
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: about the on field. Obviously, they do the medicals and

928
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: all that, but the on field they they they said

929
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: there's like zero relevance to this. We've heard some of that,

930
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm more I'm closer to that. You know. Again,

931
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: the one thing I would love to be able to

932
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: do would be actually to speak to guys, which I

933
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: don't get to do. But I will always come back

934
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: to watching the tape. That to me is the most

935
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: important thing. I want to watch a guy play football.

936
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: We were talking to Tom tolesco Um talk to Brandon

937
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: Bean during the week, and they're going, you know, being here,

938
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: it's only about sitting where you and I are sitting

939
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: talking to the kid because the I don't yeah, right,

940
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: but that is no, GM's not going to be in

941
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: that room. No, no, right. So he says, you know,

942
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: I said, I don't need to watch him run for it.

943
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: He just show me what he ran. What's his number?

944
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: Right number? And by the way, I'll tell you a

945
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: very quick story. It's possible I told you this two

946
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: years ago too. But my first year at the Combine,

947
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: which I believe was nineteen ninety eight, I've been coming

948
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: every year since. So my first year, I'm trying to

949
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: insinuate myself into all different conversations just to meet people,

950
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, and not be a pain in the you

951
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: know what, just you know, try to just try to

952
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: meet people so they look at me and go, oh, yeah,

953
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: you belong here. You know. I was staying out late

954
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: at night. I've been doing that my whole life, right,

955
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: I was staying out late at night you know, which

956
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: I don't do anymore, but you know, because that's where

957
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: the coach you know that, you know, you know the

958
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: whole routine here and yeah, And I remember sitting in

959
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: at the combine my first year with a bunch of

960
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Scouts and there were some old time Scouts and one

961
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: of the guys had the classic Southern accent and he says,

962
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: not to me personally, but to the kind of the group.

963
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: He says, you know what the forty tells you? He says,

964
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: it tells you that fast guys run fast and slow

965
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: guys run slow. And I kind of feel that that's

966
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: what the forty kind of tells you. I mean, I

967
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of know from watching tape, like Calvin Austin yesterday,

968
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: the kid from Memphis, I did his tape. Actually he's Friday, right,

969
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: I think I did his tape on Monday, so he's

970
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: fresh in my mind. And you know what, he runs

971
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: really fast on film. He has the great play speed.

972
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: And so when he ran a four whatever's official, I

973
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: don't know if you have his official time there, Chris,

974
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: it was a four three two, I believe, all right,

975
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: So if it's four three two, I pretty much I

976
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: knew from watching his film that he would run without

977
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: question under a four to four. I don't need to

978
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: see the four three two to know that he's fast.

979
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah right? And people, I know there are

980
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: people on social media that were mad when they saw,

981
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, Tae Kwon Thornton from Baylor, the kid that

982
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: had the fastest time unofficially ran a four two one,

983
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: and then the next day it's a four two eight.

984
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: People like, ah, yeah, I wanted him to have the record,

985
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I really don't think seven hundredths

986
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: of a second is going to impact his draft, know,

987
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 1: and he's a guy I haven't seen, so I can't

988
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: speak to him. But you know, the question and Steve,

989
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: we were talking about this before we came on Live now,

990
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: is what is the correlation if you look back over

991
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: the years. And I made it a point to ask

992
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: Steve about Andre Reida, you know who he knows well,

993
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: hall of fame or great receiver on those Bills teams.

994
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: What's the correlation between being able to run fast in

995
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: a straight line in shorts and a T shirt with

996
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: being a wide receiver in the NFL? Yeah, it probably

997
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: has more to do with being a gunner on special days. Right.

998
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: The thing about it, here's the important aspect of being

999
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Certainly, the faster you run the better

1000
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: because you run away from people and they struggle to

1001
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: keep up, and they get it sends a little bit

1002
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: of desperation in them, so they commit quicker to a

1003
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: fake right, because there's a little there's a little bit

1004
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: of you know, fear that you're going to do something,

1005
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: so they kind of react quick and they try and

1006
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: get on top of it. The thing that is as

1007
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: much as speed is the ability to stop hard, stop fast, right,

1008
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: and accelerate fast, yes, re accelerate, change direction without losing

1009
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: speed or faster than they can stop and start themselves correct.

1010
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: That is the trait that sets wide receivers apart that

1011
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: trade alone. Because let's think about this. Think, you know,

1012
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: with the work I do guys, as you know, I'm

1013
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: trying to project and transition guys to the NFL, I'm

1014
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: not watching guys in a vacuum. I mean, obviously you

1015
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: get a feel for a guy's traits, and we can

1016
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: talk about some specific guys, particularly with the Cole Beasley News.

1017
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you're looking at traits, attributes, characteristics, but

1018
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: then the next thing I think about is, Okay, what

1019
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: are they going to face in the NFL. They're going

1020
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: to face man, they're going to face press man, they're

1021
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: going to face off man, they're going to face zone.

1022
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: So what do you have to be able to do

1023
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: to get open against the different and multiple coverages that

1024
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: you face in the NFL? Now? Running fast, no one

1025
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: would say they'd rather have a slow guy than a

1026
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: fast guy. We know that, but and certainly defenses might

1027
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: play differently if they feel that there's a guy that

1028
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: can get over the top. That does impact how defenses

1029
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: might play a particular team. So that's a value. But

1030
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 1: if you're just talking about the particular receiver himself, how

1031
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: often in the NFL do we see receivers just simply

1032
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 1: run by corners, you know, as if the corner's not there.

1033
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: And I was fortunate enough to have a great conversation

1034
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: with Pete na Tilman an hour before I just came

1035
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: on with you guys, and he was saying the same thing.

1036
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: He said, it's the guys who had incredible quickness in

1037
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: and out of routes that were really far more troublesome

1038
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: than just guys who were straight line fast. There's also

1039
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: now that they've elevated the concepts of these offenses, so

1040
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: that it used to be you know, you draw a

1041
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: line on a paper and at the end of it

1042
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: there's an arrow, right, and that's the direction you ran.

1043
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: Now they say listen, and you know that you break

1044
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: the huddle. And you saw you heard Steve Young when

1045
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: NFL Films did a great thing, Steve Young would call

1046
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: the play need to tell Jerry Rice, hey, give me

1047
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: something creative over there. If it's cloud coverage, right, which

1048
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: means if the guys off, just go out there and

1049
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: run around and get open, right. And that's the chemistry

1050
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: that they had, right. So then and they put concepts

1051
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: in four guys just say listen, I want you here

1052
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: at a certain when the play develops, I want you

1053
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: there by yourself. That's what change did with Stevie Johnson's

1054
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: River ran two routes the same in his life, that's right,

1055
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: And that's why DB's had problems with Stevie. There was

1056
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: nothing they could There were no key or traits or

1057
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: never do anything the same was different, right. So there

1058
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: their coaches are starting to incorporate that in to a

1059
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: guy's ability, and it's and it's taking it to a

1060
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: whole other level. Yeah, and and the general point before

1061
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: we start getting into maybe some specific guys, it's just

1062
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: that pure speed in and of itself does not make

1063
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: for a great receiver. So let's jump in. And I've

1064
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: I've probably watched like fifteen guys so far on Good

1065
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: for you. No, I've probably done about the same. I'm

1066
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: behind just like you are. Yeah. And the guy that

1067
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: I think at least that I have seen to this point,

1068
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: like hands is the number one thing that stands out

1069
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: with him is Jahan Dots and his hands are unbelievable

1070
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: to me outside his frame for not a gigantic guy,

1071
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: like one handed grabs and pulling it in like stuff

1072
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: outside because his quarterback didn't look terribly outcurate. Oh no,

1073
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: and you hit on a guy whose tape I really like,

1074
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you brought him up first. You probably

1075
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: to know that I liked it throughout the name. I

1076
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: watched his tape from twenty twenty and his tape from

1077
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, and I really liked to hand Dots

1078
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: and a lot. Yeah. I think you know again, we

1079
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: live in an NFL now, and this is another thing

1080
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: where guys are not necessarily put in boxes as to

1081
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: where they line up. I mean, even someone like Cole Beasley,

1082
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: who seems like the quintessential slot receiver, there were many

1083
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: snaps he lined up outside. We don't live in a

1084
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: world anymore where a guy is just a slot receiver

1085
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: because offenses have expanded and broadened and changed. So someone

1086
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: like John Dots and someone might say, and I think

1087
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 1: he weighed one second eight here, but I found out

1088
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: from someone who knows him well that he really plays

1089
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: it like one eighty five, which is still not big.

1090
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: But you know, he got lighters so he could run fast.

1091
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe. But the point is is that you know

1092
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: that guy, you know, ten years ago someone might have said, oh,

1093
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: he's one eighty five, he's a slot. Well, he's so

1094
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: much more than that. He can line up anywhere, particularly

1095
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: in an expansive offense like let's like the Bills. Let's

1096
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: say you know they run. Because I'm sure Ken Dorrissey

1097
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: will have a lot of the same principles that Brian

1098
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: Dabele had. He might tweak a few things because he

1099
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: has his own thoughts, but he will not change every thing.

1100
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: Because Josh Allen has proven to be phenomenal within the concept.

1101
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: They're not going to change the whole the whole deal.

1102
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: But Dotson seems to me, at least just from what

1103
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: I've seen, not only does he have great hands and

1104
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: great outside of his body frame in terms of catch

1105
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: radius for not a gigantic guy, good after the catch,

1106
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: seems to know where the sticks are. So I'm thinking,

1107
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, intelligence here, sharp route runner gets separation assistently

1108
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: and fearless and competitive. That stood out to me watching

1109
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: his tape because very often I look for that with

1110
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: smaller guys. Are they looking to play just in space?

1111
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: Because that something like that does limit how you can

1112
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: use a guy who will get to a guy who's

1113
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: like that, in my opinion momentarily who actually ran very

1114
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: well yesterday as well. But Dotson was not a guy

1115
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: that looked to just be in space. He had no

1116
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: problem working in the middle and being highly competitive and

1117
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: catching through contact if need be. Yeah, just you go

1118
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: to all these guys have highlight films on YouTube, right

1119
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: of course, you go out there and look the first

1120
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: catch on Dodson's highlight realm. You can turn the rest

1121
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: of it off. That thing he spears a little on

1122
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: the five yard line, goes up with his right hand,

1123
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: spears at like a fish, just pull it in, does

1124
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: never put his left hand on it. Walked in UM

1125
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. It was you know that it sounds

1126
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: Steve was done. If you can catch, if you can

1127
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: catch the ball, that was real in depth to your

1128
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: right right. I watched the first Okay, that's what the

1129
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: guys on Twitter do. They watched twenty plays and they

1130
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: tweeted out as if they've seed five guineas. That's right.

1131
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: So that's um. But you're right. There are a number

1132
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: of guys on this and and and it is a

1133
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Generally speaking, smaller, lighter guys seem to be

1134
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: able to quick and do change direction really quickly. But

1135
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: it does come with his own set of generally speaking limitations,

1136
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: one durability and to the inability, to the lack of

1137
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: willingness for contact. And Dotson's not that guy right now. Now.

1138
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: I think that, And it's not a concern with Dotson necessarily,

1139
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: but I think that there's always a sense of how

1140
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: will a smaller receiver handle physical press man not mirror

1141
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: match press man, where the corner might be right up

1142
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: on him but doesn't touch him. But how will he

1143
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: handle the guy who as soon as he tries to

1144
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: get off the ball just sticks him right in his

1145
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: chest and has strength and has strength and power to

1146
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: do you know, and again sometimes you don't know the

1147
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: answer to that, watching watching tape. Now, keep in mind,

1148
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: there's ways to get away from that. You know, you

1149
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: can make the guy a Z receiver, meaning he's off

1150
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: the ball. It's tougher to press those guys. The Z

1151
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: receivers also the movement receiver, so you can put him

1152
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: in motion to give him free access. You can put

1153
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: him in the slot of times. They can be off

1154
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: the ball as well at times and you can then

1155
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: use motion as well. So if you feel that a

1156
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: receiver like Dotson who has tremendous trades, but if you

1157
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: just feel that, hey, maybe we don't want him on

1158
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: the ball, there's ways to get him free access off

1159
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: the ball. And for our listeners who don't know, he's

1160
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: a Penn State guy. So that's one guy to keep

1161
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: an eye on. Who was the next guy that you

1162
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up? Well, he said, maybe doesn't who

1163
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: I know. Again, if you watch his tape, he's a

1164
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: smooth strider. I expected him to run well, but watching

1165
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: his tape and again another guy. I've actually watched his

1166
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: tape for three years because I kept thinking he was

1167
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: going to come out, and he kept coming back to State.

1168
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot of Chris Lave and while

1169
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: he's smooth, he's fluid. I think he's reasonably refined as

1170
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: a route runner. He very much struck me as an

1171
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: outside the numbers receiver. I don't think there's a physical

1172
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: dimension to his game at all, So he doesn't want

1173
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: to get into the mess. That was my sense watching

1174
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: his tape. I can't speak to what's in his head.

1175
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about what the tape shows. So I think,

1176
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: to me, that really suggests that he's not your your

1177
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: your bell cow, so to speak. He's not your number

1178
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: one guy. I will say, though, what Steve was just

1179
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: reference saying with respect to being able to start and

1180
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: re accelerate, he has a stutter hesitation move yep where

1181
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: he gets back up to top speed in like three steps. No,

1182
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: he's and he leaves people in the dust. No, Yeah,

1183
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: he's he's very smooth. I mean there is a somewhat

1184
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: explosive element to his game, clearly, But I'm very curious

1185
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: when he gets to the NFL, well, I'm curious to

1186
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: see who drafts him and how they think they're going

1187
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: to deploy him, because I'm just giving you my opinion

1188
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: based on a lot of tape study of him. I

1189
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: think he's essentially a compliment who he's going to work

1190
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: outside the numbers if if he is exactly that, nobody's

1191
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a guy like that in round one. From

1192
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: what I hear, he will go in round one. And

1193
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say I'm right

1194
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: and they'll be disappointed. Maybe I'll be wrong. This is

1195
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: what I saw on tape. And he's a slight framed

1196
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: guy too, so I would think he's strong and linear.

1197
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't have he's smooth and fluid, but he's he's

1198
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: not which he as far as his hips, Yeah, you

1199
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: know he's not a wiggle guy. No, he's linear. Yeah,

1200
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: he's not a wiggle guy. Yeah. What about well we

1201
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: mentioned him already, Calvin Austin super fast he now did

1202
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: I read right? He used to be a running back

1203
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: or he's been somewhat of a hybrid and now moved

1204
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: him full time. He was a track guy because I

1205
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: looked him up and he's that makes sense, he said,

1206
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: records in you know, four by one hundred relay running

1207
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: the two hundred meters. I mean, this guy's a track guy.

1208
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: But he's short, but he's not small, you know, he's

1209
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: he's he got off press in college. Again, press is

1210
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: better in the NFL. We all know that. But he

1211
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: got off press without much of a problem. He was

1212
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: a receiver to me, not just a speed guy. And

1213
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by him seeing he's another guy in the

1214
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: old days. Did you look at his height and his weight,

1215
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: Chris and people say slot, yeah, that's he's gonna be

1216
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: more than that. I mean, you look at what teams

1217
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: do in the league now, the way they move receivers around, right.

1218
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: That was gonna be my next thing because you think

1219
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: about what the Bills did with Isaiah McKenzie, who literally

1220
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: my height. He's five seven, right, and he may weigh

1221
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: fifteen more pounds than me. But the paying in the

1222
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: NFL because I don't run whatever he runs, but uh

1223
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: and I don't jump as high as he does either,

1224
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: and I'm too old. But he the way he was

1225
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: deployed among other receivers. You know, these jets suite, right

1226
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: and lining up in the backfield and all of those things.

1227
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin can do all that without question. He really

1228
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: reminded me. And his mannerism is the way he ran

1229
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: up a lot of and I'd sayah, McKenzie, Um, I

1230
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: think build was a little Yeah, he's a little thicker. Yes,

1231
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: he is a little and he ran like that. I

1232
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: mean he ran like a little bit of a guys.

1233
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't care, let's go, you know. And uh so

1234
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: I I thought Calvin Austin was one of the more

1235
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: impressive guys. We had a list of like seven eight guys.

1236
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: I think Calvin Austin is right up there at the top.

1237
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: I liked his tape a lot. Yeah, he changed his

1238
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: angles for defenders without and by the way, catches the

1239
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: football yeah yeah, because a lot of times track guys

1240
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,959
Speaker 1: don't catch the football really well. He catches the football. Also,

1241
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: got a lot of track guys don't have instinct with

1242
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: the ball in their hands of get every yard they're

1243
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: get supposed to get. Right, He does make He makes

1244
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: good cuts, has good vision with the ball in his hands,

1245
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: makes guys miss, you know, allows his blockers, guy uses

1246
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: his speed. Um, he has good instincts with all his hand. Yeah.

1247
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: He was another guy whose tape I really liked. How

1248
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: tough an evaluation was Christian Watson, not only because of

1249
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: the FCS competition, but because he was this tall angular

1250
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: receiver that has wheels. But I don't know. I finished

1251
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: watching him and I was wondering, is it is it

1252
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: all there? And I was trying to compensate for you know,

1253
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: sometimes he's playing FCS competition. He ran BioC. They were

1254
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: ninth graders, right, Steve was saying he was playing against

1255
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: dental Steward, right right, and that's not gonna happen in

1256
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. The guy he absolutely reminded me of And

1257
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: uh this he has the exact same height weight measurements.

1258
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: What was his uh forty? I'm sure it was. He

1259
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: ran a four three six, So you know who's he

1260
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: coming out? Coming out? And that's all I can speak to.

1261
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: He was exactly Marquez Valdes Scaling, who's the exact same

1262
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: height and weight, and he ran Valdes Scaling ran a

1263
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: four three seven, So to me, that's who Watson is. Okay, Yeah,

1264
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: I liked when I was watching him. I watched him

1265
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. He I liked him a lot. I

1266
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Speaker 1: think he does at the FCS level what you'd expect

1267
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: a guy coming out of the NFL draft to do.

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: He dominated. Yeah, the guys he was supposed to beat,

1269
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: he beat, and he easily him easily, Almost Chris, it

1270
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: looks silly, Yeah, I mean it looks silly. Now again,

1271
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: he's another guy who's very long and linear. And one

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: thing I learned years ago. I'm sure you may know

1273
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: Alexanders who coached in the league for a long time,

1274
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: and I was a good friend of mine, and he

1275
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: was a receiver's coach at heart, and he would explain

1276
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: to me because we'd say, well, he doesn't have good hands,

1277
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: and he'd said, well, you can teach a guy to

1278
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: catch the ball the right way. And I think Watson

1279
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: needs work on how to catch the ball. Might seem silly,

1280
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: but on a lot of inbreaking routes where the balls

1281
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: out in front. You know, it struck me watching his tape.

1282
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't sure how to catch those balls and he

1283
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: dropped a few of those. Yeah, that's that's certain. Yeah,

1284
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: no question, you can you can teach that. Yeah, absolutely,

1285
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: that's you can't teach sixty three. He's six four two

1286
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: tennis and he ran a four to three six that

1287
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: you can't teach. And they were comfortable, of course, and

1288
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: like you said, it was a lower level of football,

1289
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: but they were comfortable handing him the ball too. And

1290
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: he's got They had some in he had some instincts

1291
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: with the ball. He is a strider, I mean, because

1292
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: he's six four, he can really stride it out. Speaking

1293
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: of big guys, this player was big and he has

1294
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: a thick, much thicker body than than Watson Traylon Burns.

1295
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: And he's playing in a major conference, obviously at Arkansas.

1296
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 1: This guy wins in traffic. Holy can. I really liked

1297
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: his tape, Chris Um. I think that you know, again,

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01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: he didn't run a great yesterday, but he plays faster

1299
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: than that to me, much faster, I mean, but just

1300
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: put on the Alabama tape and he's running away from

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01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: the Alabama secondary. Yeah. You know, he's big, he's fist,

1302
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: he's got huge hands. He catches everything. Um, you know,

1303
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: he lines up everywhere, which I guess in some people's

1304
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: minds that you could look at that as a positive

1305
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: or a negative. But I think in this era and

1306
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: now where people might be looking for the deebo Samuel type,

1307
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: the Cordaryl Patterson type, guys who can line up in

1308
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: multiple positions and challenge and threaten to defense in different ways.

1309
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: I think Trey Lion Burks is a really really good

1310
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: give me, give me a comparable to a pro that

1311
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: people might know well. I think the Deebo Samuel is

1312
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: the way a lot of people might think about him,

1313
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, because he can line up and stout. Yeah,

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: he's stout. He was six two two. What about a

1315
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: guy like An Kwan Bowling, except he'd run few runs better?

1316
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Ye runs bad. That's not bad. It's funny you say that,

1317
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: just talking about David Boston. I was in the I

1318
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: was in the building here when Anquan Bowlder ran a

1319
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: four seven two at the combine and people are like,

1320
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's never going to play in the NFL.

1321
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: He was pretty good, played a long time. Yeah, that's where, Yeah,

1322
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: everybody brings something, and his and An Kwon Bolden's combination

1323
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: of what he brought to the table was different than

1324
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: everybody else. But he was a big, thick guy. David

1325
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: Boston another guy like that played for San Diego, a big,

1326
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: heavy duty guy. I don't know if he's that thick.

1327
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: No he's not, but yeah, I get that he's he's

1328
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: a big body and he's gonna give some a lot

1329
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: of dbs some problems, no question. No, he's a tough

1330
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: matchup even if he can't you know, he ran good, right,

1331
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: but he plays Chris is right. He plays much fair.

1332
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised at his forty time because he

1333
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: plays much faster. Yeah, he looked sub four or five

1334
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, I was surprised to see four or

1335
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: five five. Another guy that's used in a multitude of

1336
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: ways at Kentucky Wandelle Robinson. He's the guy I haven't

1337
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: seen yet, so let's yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the guys

1338
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: he I don't know he had. I've seen that on

1339
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: TV a lot because actually it's funny I've seen I

1340
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: watched Kentucky a lot on TV during the season because

1341
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: they had an offensive coordinator who's actually now back with

1342
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: the Rams, Liam Khan, and he came from the RAM,

1343
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: so I liked watching their off fans. But I haven't

1344
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: studied Robinson. Yeah, um, anybody else that you are a

1345
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: fan of that you've seen besides some of the guys

1346
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 1: we mentioned, like I really love Garrett Wilson from a house. Yeah.

1347
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know if there's anybody that doesn't like.

1348
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: He reminds me us to find digs quite honestly. Yeah,

1349
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: he's complete. Yeah. I'll tell you a guy who might

1350
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: be keep this name in mind. George Pickens. Oh, the

1351
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: Georgia kid. Yeah, the Georgia kid came back from an injury,

1352
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: got tourist spring practice, played the final two or three games.

1353
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: That's a big kid, though, I mean, and he can

1354
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 1: and he can move like for instance, to me, he

1355
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: is much smoother, more fluid, quicker, faster than Drake London.

1356
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: I think he's a better prospect than Drake. I will

1357
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: say this about a guy like like that. So he

1358
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: tears his acl and spring practice and gets back and

1359
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: they when you're playing for a national championship and for

1360
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: the stakes that Georgia Bulldogs were playing for at the

1361
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: end of the year, to pull a guy and say,

1362
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: you know what, we need you on the field and

1363
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: he comes back, and he comes back and does that,

1364
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: that says a lot about it. I bet he he

1365
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 1: was going to come out so he did not have

1366
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: to play. That's probably true. And you think about too,

1367
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: the coaching staff to trust him the way they did

1368
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: in big moments like that in the games that they

1369
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: were playing. I was a lot about what they thought about.

1370
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: And I'll give you one other guy who I know

1371
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: ran well and I guess his vertical jump is really good.

1372
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: Whose tape I really liked. Another big receiver, Alec Pierce

1373
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. I really liked his tape, and I knew

1374
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: he would see again watching his tape, I knew he

1375
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: was highly athletic. I mean I couldn't sit here until

1376
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: you exactly what he'd run. But I knew from watching

1377
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: his tape he was highly athletic, and I knew that

1378
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: he would he would test well on the measurable right, no,

1379
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: forty and a half inch verdict, Yeah, it's no, and

1380
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 1: it didn't. He run under four four as well, four

1381
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: four one four four. I mean that's pretty good for

1382
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: sixty three two. Alight. It's no surprise that the Cincinnati

1383
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: Bearcats had some guys coming out this year that turns

1384
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: some heads because the season they put together. I've heard

1385
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: from talking to people here that that program is phenomenal now,

1386
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: like yeah, I mean, whether they're and they got to

1387
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: keep their coach too, Yeah, yeah, because he signed an extension.

1388
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 1: I think yeah, yeah, to stay. They're trying to keep

1389
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: what they got. Yeah, keep on keeping on. Uh. We

1390
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: will be catching up with Greg through the course of

1391
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: the days and weeks leading up to the draft. We'll

1392
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 1: probably tap into you, Greg for more position reviews. We'll

1393
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: be grinding away, Chris, Yeah, in the coming days and weeks.

1394
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,560
Speaker 1: So good to catch up with you in person. We

1395
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: haven't seen a while. We haven't seen anybody in a frankly,

1396
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: so it's good to see you tape so we don't

1397
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: have to there you go. That's Steve's motto for sure.

1398
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: We will take a break here, but thanks very much

1399
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: for joining us, Gregg. We will take a break here.

1400
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: Come back with more on the other side, including more

1401
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: on this report about Cole Beasley being granted permission by

1402
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 1: the Bills to seek a trade. Here on One Bills Live,

1403
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

1404
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

1405
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: with you here on a Friday live at the NFL

1406
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine, and it has cleared out in earnest people

1407
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: are heading home for the weekend. Not too many people

1408
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: are hanging around for the poor DBS. Yeah, apparently we're

1409
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: the last broadcast crew on the air today because everybody

1410
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: else is bracked up and the coaching staffs for most

1411
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,839
Speaker 1: of these teams kind of do the combine and shifts

1412
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: based on their position group. We saw Safety Bill Safety's

1413
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: coach James Salgado here in the hallway as we were

1414
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: coming up here to our broadcasting location. He was headed

1415
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 1: down to the stadium to you know, catch up with

1416
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 1: players because the DBS are rolling in today and then

1417
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: they will meet whatever media is left tomorrow. But they'll

1418
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: start doing interviews tonight and they'll be working out, I

1419
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: believe on Monday, Sunday or Monday, so you know, he

1420
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: comes in for that a couple of days ahead of time.

1421
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: But as far as the Bills coaching staff members that

1422
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: were here to watch the quarterbacks, they're on the way

1423
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: home already because the quarterbacks are done. They worked out

1424
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,879
Speaker 1: last night. That's the last thing they do after medical

1425
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: interviews and you know testing, they're gone and so they're

1426
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: going back, you know, to one Bill's Drive today while

1427
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: some of the members of the staff that still have

1428
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: their position groups to finish are still here taking it

1429
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: all in so you know that'll happen, and you know it.

1430
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: It was really interesting to go over those receiver prospects

1431
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 1: Steve with Greg Cosell, because now I think a lot

1432
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: of people felt maybe at some point in the draft

1433
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: the Bills will look at a receiver. But if Colebasley

1434
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: gets his wish, as he has been granted permission to

1435
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 1: seek a trade according to Mike Carafolo of NFL Network,

1436
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: and he is successful in finding a trade partner for

1437
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: the Bills to move on from Buffalo, it only exacerbates

1438
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: the positional need because, as we mentioned earlier, you have

1439
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie who's said to become a free agent. Maybe

1440
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: the impetus to resign him increases now with the potential

1441
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: of losing Cole Beasley. Then you have Emmanuel Sanders, who

1442
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: at last check was strongly contemplating retirement. And you also

1443
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: have Jay Kumereau, who, while he didn't factor in very

1444
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: heavily on the offensive side of the ball, did play

1445
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: a role on special teams. So those guys are all

1446
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: under the list of potential departures. Suddenly the need for

1447
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: a receiver, maybe both in free agency for a veteran

1448
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: that's proven. Allah and Emmanuel Sanders that you can maybe

1449
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: signed to a one year deal. You may also need

1450
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: to draft one and get another in the pipeline, even

1451
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: though you have Marquez Stevenson and Isaiah Hodgens on your roster.

1452
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: That's right. It becomes a game of numbers and they

1453
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 1: need a complete Now, this roster is not complete the

1454
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: way it is now. You got all these free agents.

1455
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: You don't have enough defensive linemen to play season, you

1456
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: don't have offensive linemen to play season. All that stuff

1457
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: you know up in limbo right now. So they've got

1458
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: to fill those voids with players before the draft. You

1459
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: can't go to the draft with a positional emergency. If

1460
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 1: they do that, they're in deep trouble. So they're gonna

1461
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: fill all these holes at D line, defensive tackle, cornerback,

1462
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver room, they'll have it. They'll have guys on

1463
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: the roster that are gonna be able. They'll be able

1464
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: to line up and play. But they want to get better. Yeah,

1465
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna get to a point where the if there's

1466
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: a defensive end or a wide receiver or cornerback or

1467
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: any of those players, they can take the one that's

1468
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 1: going to have the best pro career, whatever is position.

1469
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: One of our listeners wanted us to ask about Vilas

1470
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: Jones from Tennessee, and we didn't get a chance to

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01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: talk to you Greg about him, So we apologize for that,

1472
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: but I will read just some of my notes on him. Uh,

1473
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: slot guy, breakaway speed, good hands, obviously has return experience,

1474
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: so that's a bonus. They used him on bubbles a lot,

1475
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: but also was used on all three levels of routes.

1476
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 1: And I thought one thing he didn't I know, Steve,

1477
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: you were watching some of this with me. Sets up

1478
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 1: his blocks really well. Um, the Tennessee kids, So he's

1479
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: an interesting prospect as well. This this draft is so

1480
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: chock full of receivers it's it's insane. They'll be Um.

1481
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: Tom mcshaye said it. You didn't get a starter in

1482
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: the third or fourth round. Right. There are gonna be

1483
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: some guys who are gonna come in and play very well, Um,

1484
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: like Jefferson did for Minnesota, like Jamar Chase. Um, there's

1485
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: gonna be some guys that come in and play extremely

1486
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 1: well right out of the gate in this draft class. Um,

1487
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: And you know you'd like to be one of those

1488
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: teams that gets it, certainly the Buffalo Bills. And I

1489
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: told you this earlier, Brownie, and I still believe it.

1490
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: If the Bills get one of those guys, they need

1491
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: a guy, they're gonna take him at twenty five, a

1492
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He needs to be able to line up

1493
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: and play right now. Yeah, And I understand what you

1494
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: were saying earlier. You know, if you if you're going

1495
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: to look for a guy like that, you gotta get

1496
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: him sooner rather than later, because it enhances your chances

1497
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: of that being able, a guy being able to help

1498
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: you right away. I get that. And now Cole Beasley

1499
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: with that, with that news coming down, that puts that

1500
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: into question and maybe at a much higher level of

1501
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: urgency if Beasley is traded or does leave the fold.

1502
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: Now that fact is exacerbated in free agency in the draft, Yeah,

1503
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: no question about it. Let's go to the phones at

1504
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: eight oh three, five fifty before we dive into the

1505
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: fan Friday mail bag, and we go to Joe in

1506
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo night. What do you have for us? Joe? Oh, Joe,

1507
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: are you there? Hey? What do you got? Good? So?

1508
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: I had? Um? I know the long shot? Hello, Yeah, yeah,

1509
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: we're here. I know the waiting shot. No one really

1510
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: wants to hear it. Says in something that I think

1511
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: could work. I just want to hear your guy's opinion

1512
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: on it. He has proven sure would be able to

1513
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: come in here helpless win a Super Bowl. I know

1514
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy. Maybe we could give him some type

1515
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: of contracts saying he has to play all sixteen games

1516
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 1: without giving us a problem hit certain numbers. Well, how

1517
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: do you feel about bringing in Antonio Brown on a

1518
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 1: one year deal helpless win the big Game? Yeah? I

1519
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: don't see it happening. Um, I just don't you think

1520
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: about what Sean McDermott says. I need guys with the

1521
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: DNA that we're looking for. It. That's not the DNA

1522
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: he's looking for. Yeah, I think he's a little too

1523
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,799
Speaker 1: radioactive right now, the way he left Tampa Bay, everything

1524
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,719
Speaker 1: that has happened to him or that he has made

1525
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: half happen. He'll be in the USFL. That's where he'll do. Yeah,

1526
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: he may be. He may well be, But I get it.

1527
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: There's no doubt that guy can really play. Absolutely he

1528
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: can really play. But by having him on your team,

1529
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: you run the risk of one other, two other four

1530
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: other six other players not playing real well because they

1531
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: can't get along with him, or because of a rift

1532
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: with him, or because of the way he acts or whatever.

1533
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: That's the issue. Certainly, Antonio Brown could come in and

1534
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: play extremely well, but he may come in and tip

1535
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: over the apple cart for a handful of other guys

1536
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: in that same room or around the locker room, maybe

1537
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: even your quarterback. Yeah, so I don't think he's worth

1538
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: the risk. Let's get to the Obel Friday fan mailbag, Steve,

1539
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 1: we gotta get some of these questions, and the first

1540
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: one comes from Ali of New York, or Ali of

1541
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: New York for giving me if I pronounced it wrong.

1542
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 1: I went with pronunciation, so half the time I was

1543
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: right there with nine draft picks. What is the likelihood

1544
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: of a trade up, not necessarily in the first round,

1545
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: but maybe to get another third rounder or maybe a

1546
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: fourth rounder. I could see Brandon being doing that. In fact,

1547
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: in his first three drafts, all he did was trade up.

1548
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: I think last year was the first year he moved

1549
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: back in a draft. So yeah, I think I think

1550
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: there's a likelihood that could happen. When it happens. Day

1551
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: three is probably the probably more likely We've seen him

1552
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 1: do that in the past. He moved up from round

1553
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 1: four to round three to select Dawson Knox a couple

1554
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: of years ago, so it's happened before in that area. Yes,

1555
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: it is a possibility. They do have a bunch of

1556
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: draft picks, so they could throw, you know, some of

1557
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: their later draft picks. They get a third this year

1558
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: in relation to the Lee Smith signing in Atlantis. They

1559
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: got a seventh seventh, I'm sorry, a seventh, and they

1560
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,959
Speaker 1: got a sixth for the Darryl Johnson trade to Carolina.

1561
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: That's right. So that's the two extra picks. So they

1562
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: get a couple of extra picks, so they'll have some

1563
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: extra things to throw around. Not a lot of capital.

1564
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: It's not a strength, but it helps. I mean, if

1565
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: you throw the two extra picks you got for losing

1566
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: free agents last year along with a regular pick, that's

1567
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: three picks for a guy that you think can come

1568
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: in and make a difference on a really you know,

1569
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: on a team that it's hard to make a difference on. Yeah, yeah,

1570
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: you might do it. I'm reminded of what Todd mcshaye

1571
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: told us yesterday. More often than not, you're gonna have

1572
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: teams trying to move back because the meat and potatoes

1573
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 1: of this draft, where the real value is is perceived

1574
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: by many to be between rounds two and four. So

1575
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna have teams in the bottom of the first

1576
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: round looking to move out. You're gonna have teams probably

1577
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: in the second round maybe looking to move from the

1578
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: top to the bottom based on what their boards telling them.

1579
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: Here's problem is, I don't know that they're going to

1580
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: have enough people interested in moving up. So if if

1581
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Being so my point here is if Brandon Being

1582
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: gets to the third or fourth round and find somebody

1583
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: that he likes that he wants to shoot up ten

1584
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: spots to get, he probably will be able to find

1585
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: a willing partner knowing how many people are willing to

1586
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 1: move down, feeling there's better value or equivalent value ten

1587
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: twelve picks later. This is why these teams spend so

1588
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: much time looking at each other. What the Bills will

1589
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: do is and what another team will do. If they'll

1590
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: look for a team with a positional emergency, they'll say, now, yeah,

1591
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: these guys have got to have something they need to

1592
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: move up. They need this guy in this draft would

1593
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: be perfect for their roster is currently constructed. A guy,

1594
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: you know, like a young left tackle on a rookie

1595
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: contract would be perfect for team X y Z. So

1596
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 1: they would look for those teams to pick up the

1597
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: phone and say, hey, you want to trade into this

1598
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: to get this guy. And what it means is as

1599
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: a team like the Bills will say, listen, we can

1600
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: get the same guy or a same type of guy,

1601
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: or a guy who makes us just as good as

1602
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: we would otherwise be later in the draft and pick

1603
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: up some extra draft picks doing it. Yeah, so you

1604
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: know that's the trade you have to trade off. You

1605
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: look for candidates in yourself scout and the scouting around

1606
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 1: the league of teams that say, man, I really need

1607
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: this and this and this draft, and you've got the

1608
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: pick that could give it to him, and you reach

1609
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: out to him and ask. The next one in the

1610
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: mail bag comes from Mark, who asks of any slot

1611
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: receivers caught your eye. We just went through a couple

1612
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: of them with Greg Cosell. Here Dotson was the guy

1613
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 1: that stood out the most to me, who could play inside.

1614
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: He did not always do that at Penn State. I

1615
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 1: just think he's got some of the best set of

1616
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: hands in the draft, just really soft hands. It didn't

1617
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: matter where the ball was thrown, if it was anywhere

1618
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: near his body frame or outside of it, he was

1619
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: snaring it. I mean, he was just pulling stuff in.

1620
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: I'll be interested. I should go back and check to

1621
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: see what his hand size is because I mean they

1622
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 1: looked like they were made at glue. I like Calvin

1623
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 1: Austin out of Memphis as well. Both those guys, Um,

1624
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: yeah they can. Yes, he's got home run speed. There

1625
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: are some guys out there, um and Calvin Austen and

1626
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: so and Jahan Dotson both strike me as players who

1627
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: could mimic Isaiah McKenzie and what he brings to the table. Yeah,

1628
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: a guy that can play inside, that has some juice

1629
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: and he can return kicks. Right, Both those guys can

1630
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: do that, no question. And I like the fact that

1631
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: Calvin Austen is was a former running back, so he's

1632
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,680
Speaker 1: familiar with those angles if you want to line them

1633
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 1: up back there, kind of like what Buffalo was doing

1634
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the season with Isaiah McKenzie. Right, Yeah,

1635
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: he it won't be a yeah, we'll be foreign to him, right,

1636
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: it won't be a problem for you. Like reading those

1637
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: keys and everything. You put a receiver back and hand

1638
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: him the football. I mean, it's a little thing, but

1639
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: he's comfortable getting the ball handed to him rather than

1640
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: thrown to him. Right, So there's that. Those are kind

1641
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 1: of some guys that we like. I'm sure we'll come

1642
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: up with others throughout the course of this pre draft

1643
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: process as we get an opportunity to look at more

1644
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: and more of them. Another one from the fan mail bag.

1645
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Bill should draft cornerback first unless Harrison

1646
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 1: Phillips leaves us. This is from Mac. He said, then

1647
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: not Jordan Davis Davante Wyatt is a better player here,

1648
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: And you are one hundred percent correct, Crack, because you're

1649
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 1: agreeing with me, which means which means Wyatt probably won't

1650
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: be there, and Jordan Davis will. Yeah. Yeah, that's not

1651
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: a setting stone or anything. No, it's not. But you're right.

1652
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 1: The one Whyatt is a much better, pro process, more

1653
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: versatile player. Uh, certainly it's on the table for Jordan

1654
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: Davis to be a phenomenally dominant player. But there for

1655
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: a number of reasons, his personality, his history with his

1656
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: weight problems. You know, when you're that young and you've

1657
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: got problems being disciplined enough to keep your weight down.

1658
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: Because there are people who watched him and them and

1659
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: the people inside the building there at Georgia, it was

1660
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: a constant battle year round together. They wanted him to

1661
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: play at three thirty five or three forty, and he

1662
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 1: could not do it. It was an effort to keep

1663
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 1: him under three fifth. It wasn't effort. And you can say, hey,

1664
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it's it means something on the field,

1665
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: they say when he was playing down at that lighter weight,

1666
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: for whatever length of time he was, he was a force,

1667
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 1: unstoppable both in the run in a pass right and

1668
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: he just can't stay there. And what we have to remember,

1669
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: too is the game at this level is even faster,

1670
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: and teams can go tempo at the drop of a hat.

1671
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: And if they do that and he's stuck on the field,

1672
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: there is you have to consider that he could be

1673
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: worn out rather quickly at that size. He turns into

1674
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:12,679
Speaker 1: a boulder lane on the ground, which isn't super effective.

1675
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: All Right, we have to take a break here. When

1676
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: we come back, Steve and I will close up our

1677
01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: coverage for the week here from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis.

1678
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. It's One Bills Live presented by Colloid to Health.

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01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back one

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Speaker 1: last time to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and Steve Yeah, give me your

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Speaker 1: one lasting impression from this week? What sticks with you

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Speaker 1: the most? As we get set to hit the road

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Speaker 1: and hit Buffalo. I'm not trying to be you know,

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Speaker 1: Debbie Downer here, but here we go. I think the

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Speaker 1: combine is in for a transformational yeah season here. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be like this for very much longer.

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Speaker 1: Certainly they may move it and do all that and

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Speaker 1: take it someplace all but this is becoming less and

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Speaker 1: less relevant to teams people like us, you know, the scouting,

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Speaker 1: So much of what they do doesn't have to do

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Speaker 1: with this combine. I think it's going to change vastly

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Speaker 1: over the next handful of years. We hope you guys

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Speaker 1: enjoyed our coverage of the NFL Scouting town Buy and

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Speaker 1: our thanks to Jay Harris and our crew here, Josh

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Speaker 1: Pullman and Jimmy Acton who did a great job of

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Speaker 1: helping us stage. This here, we had a great guest,

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Speaker 1: the last team standard here, we're the last behind us

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Speaker 1: for the last of the Mohicans. But I will say this,

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that I took away was Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: basically telling us they have some big decisions to make

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Speaker 1: this coming week. Ye to get their cap in a

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Speaker 1: position where they can do what they want to do

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Speaker 1: in free We're gonna have less to talk about tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're next week. Yeah, are you coming back Saturday? Because

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'll see you on Monday, where we'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about those varied decisions. Thanks for watching. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week.