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Speaker 1: even do research on that. Adam, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: It is great to have you. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: everything I just read is right up our alley, meaning

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Speaker 1: You've you've you've got two hundred forty three applications and you've

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Speaker 1: got a board of supervisors with a very finite budget.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they do the best that they can that

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Speaker 1: That's honestly why we we were just patient, and we're

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Speaker 1: waiting to get this operation fully up and running. We're

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Speaker 1: focused on on micro farming our our own genetics and

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Speaker 1: and specializing at what we're good at. And and like

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Speaker 1: I said, we're very confident that we'll be up and

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Speaker 1: running by the by the time the first harvest comes

435
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Speaker 1: over October. And you were mentioning outside something about getting

436
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Speaker 1: frozen cannabis and doing three fifty pounds at a time.

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Speaker 1: Is that what I heard? Fresh frozen? So we we

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Speaker 1: have a solvent list reactor that is capable of running

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Speaker 1: three d fifty pounds of fresh frozen per per wash

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Speaker 1: and it can that that converts to roughly a hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty pounds of dry material if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: run trim so, so I mean, we we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the capability of running a ton of day through that

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Speaker 1: material through that machine. And and what our goal is

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Speaker 1: is food grade solvent lists for like for making edibles,

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Speaker 1: for making topicals. We we think that that really is

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Speaker 1: where providence exists, you know, like like removing food grade

448
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Speaker 1: topicals edibles yep, and just creating the by product for them.

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Speaker 1: So we don't really want to go into the formulation

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Speaker 1: of those different things, but we want to bring the

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Speaker 1: cost of the by the constituent materials to to something

452
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Speaker 1: comparatable to a distoalate so that you would have a choice.

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Speaker 1: You know, like creating that market segmentation is important to

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Speaker 1: us because we're providence people. Like what you read there

455
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Speaker 1: is like we know our product and we care about

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Speaker 1: the chemical composition. We we care about everything like down

457
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Speaker 1: to the down to the molecular level. So so we're

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Speaker 1: we're we're really trying to be that that Google Alphabet

459
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Speaker 1: of cannabis where you're always constantly developing. And one of

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Speaker 1: the things that really drew me to the company is

461
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Speaker 1: the fact that I'm really always told to focus on

462
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Speaker 1: side projects and keep ambition going forward. You know, when

463
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Speaker 1: you're in startup mode, very often you get put into

464
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Speaker 1: a single lane and you get told to operate in

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Speaker 1: that lane, just do this, just to stay here, stay here,

466
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Speaker 1: don't don't go for shiny objects, stop, just go and

467
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Speaker 1: do this. I get the opportunity to participate with the

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Speaker 1: Cannabis Alliance for Tax Reform for the for the state

469
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Speaker 1: of California. You know, like that's not even related to

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Speaker 1: anything manufacturing, and it's this great opportunity to be able

471
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Speaker 1: to talk about tax law. It's a great opportunity to

472
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Speaker 1: do public public speaking demonstrations in front of front of government,

473
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Speaker 1: and it's a great opportunity to just understand how you

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Speaker 1: create change. You know, the cultivation chat tax is now

475
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Speaker 1: making a roughly of outdoor revenue if you can sell it.

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Speaker 1: So so I I think it's really important that we

477
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Speaker 1: all we all band together. So one of the initiatives

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Speaker 1: that we're leading over in Lake County is we're going

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Speaker 1: to all the counties that have cannabis operators, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to those boards of supervisors and those city councils

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Speaker 1: and we're trying to have them pass them basically a

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Speaker 1: request to the governor Newsome to suspend the motivation tax

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Speaker 1: until the tax reform comes in. And and you know,

484
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Speaker 1: having a crystal ball and and word on the streets,

485
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Speaker 1: where do you see it going? Taxes? I mean realistic?

486
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Speaker 1: Where where do they go from here? Right? Because there's

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Speaker 1: so and and I know, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you don't have a solution or an

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Speaker 1: answer for you know what I mean, like, what's the solution?

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Speaker 1: So my first opinion is that a fixed taxes probably

491
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Speaker 1: unfair until we figure out what the realistic bottom of

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Speaker 1: our industry is. Like all commodities have a market price.

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Speaker 1: Cannabis does not yet, you know, like it moves around

494
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Speaker 1: a lot because we have to dual markets that are

495
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Speaker 1: transacting in it, and those markets have the difference in

496
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Speaker 1: those markets are the tax rate and they're massive, massive, massive,

497
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Speaker 1: massive competitors, and and the tax right and and overhead

498
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Speaker 1: exactly right, I mean, because you're not you know, you're

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Speaker 1: you're you're operational out of your vehicle and I'm operational

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Speaker 1: out of a building. Difference. You know, I'm paying fourteen

501
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Speaker 1: twenty dollars a month to be here, okay, and I'm

502
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Speaker 1: selling yeah, and this guy and he's selling the same amount.

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Speaker 1: You know, we pay more in insurance than like most

504
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Speaker 1: trap operations pay in total expenses. And and that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that That's what we're trying to

506
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Speaker 1: suggest is rational policy, cohesive policy across the industry. We're

507
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Speaker 1: not trying to be unfair. I think the first thing

508
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Speaker 1: is that the tax should be based on sales. You know,

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Speaker 1: having a cultivation tax based on production that is predictive

510
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Speaker 1: is unfair. You know, like obviously all the operators want

511
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Speaker 1: to add another acre to see if they can increase sales.

512
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Speaker 1: But if the market bottoms out and they still have

513
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Speaker 1: as many acres, like the cultivation tax accounts for of

514
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Speaker 1: now their revenue. And again that's the type of thing

515
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Speaker 1: where we're saying we'll make it just based like a

516
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Speaker 1: variable rate based on a final sale what gets moved,

517
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Speaker 1: that's what gets sold, or a fixed rate that gets

518
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Speaker 1: adjusted based on the market price of cannabis. You know,

519
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: like you you can't have this like hundred eighty nine

520
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Speaker 1: dollar cultivation tax for a four hundred all our pal

521
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: and like what we're gonna do is clear the field

522
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Speaker 1: and like put a cow on it. You know, it

523
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Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to but cannabis it until we figure

524
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Speaker 1: out how to get the tax right down. So so

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Speaker 1: I think it's a balancing act, you know, it's it's

526
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Speaker 1: understanding like where you can affect change and affecting it

527
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Speaker 1: and then getting back to work and just grinding your

528
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Speaker 1: ass off. It's so hard to to figure it out,

529
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Speaker 1: but God willing something like that would happen. And how

530
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Speaker 1: long have you been with this company? Now? Still a

531
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Speaker 1: new company, is it? Um? It's a fairly new company.

532
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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's about a year and two month

533
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: old company and I've been with them for about four

534
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Speaker 1: months now. And like, like I said, I work with

535
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Speaker 1: a very intelligent, very passionate team that comes from multiple

536
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Speaker 1: walks of life. Like we we have talent that's traveled

537
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Speaker 1: the world, Like we we have our breeder from from

538
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Speaker 1: DNA from Holland, and we we have our CEO does

539
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: HVAC systems for all the major indoor growers across the state.

540
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Speaker 1: So so I mean, we we have the knowledge base

541
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Speaker 1: to to really understand what we're getting into and what

542
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Speaker 1: we're tackling. And and again it's really about polishing, polishing

543
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Speaker 1: what we we believe to be a very true industry.

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Speaker 1: So your primary customers though, are the growers? Yeah, the

545
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Speaker 1: primary customers are the girls or Door Greenhouse either operations, right, correct,

546
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: We are our own customer as well. I mean, we

547
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: will also be operating our own farms and making our

548
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Speaker 1: own products and brands as well. And and do you

549
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: plan on operating outside of the state as well or

550
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,679
Speaker 1: just California folks? Again, those are questions a little bit

551
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: higher than that I'm making right now, but I'm sure

552
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Speaker 1: there's always ambitions for m s O. That's that's clearly

553
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Speaker 1: the dream. It's the ms O push towards I p O. I.

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Speaker 1: I can't speak for our higher ups. I do really

555
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Speaker 1: believe we do like the grassroots nature of our business

556
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Speaker 1: and are happy with where we're at in life. Like

557
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: we we we have plenty of too, plenty of equity

558
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: or plenty plenty of capital to accomplish what our goals are,

559
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Speaker 1: and we have a very big dream. So until we

560
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Speaker 1: achieve that, there's no real reason to start looking outward. Well,

561
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that dream. If you're a

562
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Speaker 1: big grower, go ahead and check them out online. Alchemy

563
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Speaker 1: which is a l C H B m Y Gas

564
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Speaker 1: twenty nine dot com. It's at am Moody. It's Cannabis

565
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Speaker 1: Talk one oh When we come back at him, we

566
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Speaker 1: wanna talk about this little situation. This stay with us.

567
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with Cannabis Talk one oh one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one. But Tender

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Speaker 1: award you guys. Created by G four Live with the

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Speaker 1: vision to be the most ambitious and essential cannabis event ever.

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Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one. We're sitting here with Adam Moody,

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Speaker 1: the director of manufacturing at Alchemy twenty nine and Adam,

579
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Speaker 1: you know, I got a little birdie in my ear,

580
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: but Amy that goes Adam used to work at all.

581
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: Did you remember all the drama? He doesn't. He's able

582
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: to talk about it, and I'm like, no, no, wait.

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Speaker 1: First off, Low Cafe, Los Angeles, Big Company, Low Big Company,

584
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: Bill Odin. I mean, the headline of this art of

585
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: this show is going to be something like low Stormer.

586
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: And there's there's so many stories we've heard, and I

587
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: feel like it goes back to the other podcast that

588
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: we just did with the Other Atom of all the

589
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: stories that we've heard of madmen and this and that,

590
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: all the grease we've heard of Low Cafe and Low Business.

591
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: That all being said, brother, how did you start with

592
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: Low and how did you find them? And take us

593
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: through the whole drama that you went through there. Amazing.

594
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: So the first thing I want to say is most

595
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Speaker 1: of the people a lot were tremendously talented people that

596
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for the first day I

597
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: was brought into four, Yeah, well we'll get there. Let's

598
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: let's most have story time and like you can make

599
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: your own judgments about the people that there's two sides

600
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: to every story, and in this case, I think there's three.

601
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: So so I remember pulling up to the corporate office

602
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: on uh Kuanga before before they had moved, and I

603
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: just remember the first thing when I walked in, I

604
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: was like, this must be the most successful weed company

605
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: in the entire world, like everything before you worked there,

606
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: before I worked there, Like what I was going in

607
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: to meet the CEO. It was the second one for

608
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: a few minutes of the press was big. It was

609
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: crazy crazy, like like they had Sharon Stone and Woody

610
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Harrelson on the wall, like everything was custom Italian marble.

611
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: They were serving seven dollar bottles of kombucha and like

612
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Speaker 1: like edged glass. Like it was first time I walk in,

613
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm like this this place is crazy, you know, like

614
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: just like the packaging everything had a place, and everything's

615
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: place was perfect point. So I walk in and I

616
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: remember it was the weirdest job interview that I've ever

617
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: had to date, because they already had a product. You know,

618
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: this wasn't a job interview to like take over a roll.

619
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Speaker 1: This was a job interview to do one specific thing.

620
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: And so so they throw the box down and they

621
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: tell me this really impassioned story and they're like, we've

622
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: tried to do a vape before, and I'm like, how

623
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: did it go? And so so the vape that they

624
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: tried to do before with Suicide Girl's vape, and like

625
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: that's actually a really funny story that all the apes

626
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: on the shelf after they made them, they turned dark

627
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: black and they had to be recalled, like like you

628
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: had a distal of cartridge that was roughly that color black. Yeah,

629
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: black literally, and so so like they realized that they

630
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: can't go through those steps again without having a formulation guy.

631
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Speaker 1: So the first formulation guy that got was like an

632
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Speaker 1: edible guy, and he had he walked into his interview

633
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: and told him that he could he could make rosin

634
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Speaker 1: and he could make solvent lists oils, And I remember

635
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Speaker 1: I got I got a call from this gentleman and

636
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: he's like three months away from getting fired, Like I

637
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: really I need a little assistance on this one where

638
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Speaker 1: you consold on it. And I remember, originally I was

639
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Speaker 1: actually gonna just pitch to White label this thing. I

640
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: was like, I got a good relationship with this other company,

641
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: Like if I bring him lull, like I become partner.

642
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: So I like, originally I I was a little bit

643
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: more ambitious with the deal, but that then they they

644
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: had other ideas in their mind. Like the first thing

645
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: out of Eli's mouth with the CEO at the time

646
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: is he's like, no, you gotta come work here. You

647
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: gotta be part of the family. Like this guy was

648
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: amazingly good at making you feel like you guys were

649
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: best friends even though you didn't know each other, you know,

650
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: Like I I heard some stories on your podcasts about

651
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: how like people didn't drive around in aeroplanes and Lamborghini's,

652
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: this particular gentleman did so like yeah, so so there

653
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: was a black Lamborguni that had Low on the back

654
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: of it, and like that was pretty much like our

655
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: version of the batmobile, you know. And and again like

656
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: this this all went to that image that like, oh

657
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: my God, everything about this place is polished Lambeau. Al right, right,

658
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: I need to pull a couple of lambos that put

659
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: them in the back and stuff like that, get people

660
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: really just jumping. Why not, I mean, just to get

661
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: them all like that sad one that says blue. Yeah,

662
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: super clicked out that I would know where he was

663
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: and obviously like like how many lambos in l A

664
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: are they that say low? So anytime somebody would see

665
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: his car, they called me up and I would just

666
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: like a creeper, right, be like, so what are you

667
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: doing here, buddy? Right? So you guys are friends? Yeah,

668
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: we again, the relationships started really really great, you know,

669
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: like like all good things like when when when it's good,

670
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: it's great. You know, like they had just gotten some

671
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: new funding in like the jar and the PREI roll pack.

672
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: We're famous, you know, like everybody was talking about him

673
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: like that. The creative guys that worked at loew are

674
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: still some of the best of the industry has ever seen.

675
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: You know, the clamshells that they designed, the stories behind

676
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: those packages are amazing. You know what I would have

677
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: came in and did afterwards is I just expanded the brand.

678
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, I came in and after I so I

679
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: had a funny story the first first iteration of the

680
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: vape and I brought in. I was really just trying

681
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: to get the flavor right. I wasn't worried about the clarity,

682
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: and so it was a cloudy rosin vape. But it

683
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: was smokable, it was amosified. And I remember I handed

684
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: it to the founder of the local concept of a

685
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: gentleman named saw Him Black. He's also the founder of

686
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: Suicide Girls, which is how those those relationships intersected. And

687
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: I remember handing him the vape and I remember he

688
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: took a taste of it. He looked at me through

689
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: it straight in the trash. Yeah. Like, this is what

690
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: I learned, the binary nature of successfully developing a product. Yeah,

691
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: I respect, you know, you get that like little tear.

692
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: He's like, you think you did a good job, and

693
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: you're like and then you're like then then you get yeah.

694
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: Then then you get an on remode and you're like, oh,

695
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: next time, I'm gonna put you down, you know. Like

696
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: so it really built me up. Like I I remember

697
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: when I first started it low I I honestly thought

698
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I was in the best place on earth, doing the

699
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: best job. You know, it wasn't until like little things

700
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: started like falling through the cracks that did we realize,

701
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: like like it wasn't as polished on the inside as

702
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: it was on the outside. So so like i'll give

703
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: you a great story. The first three months that we

704
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: were we were making uh doing the R and D

705
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: s over at low Like we were working under a

706
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: formulation license, so we had to order the rows in

707
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: and then we could formulate the rasin that we brought

708
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: in an infusion license. And I remember what like I

709
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: finally got the R and D done for this product,

710
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: and I went back to the office and I was like, Okay,

711
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: let's start making it and and they said to me, well,

712
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: can you make it under an end license? And I

713
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: was like, not effectively buying raws in to put into

714
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: a V pen, You're not going to get the margin.

715
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: You need to make the raws in yourself. So so

716
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: we started applying for a type six license immediately. But

717
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I remember that that same founder of the company was like,

718
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: we're not waiting three months to make a V eight pen.

719
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, so what do you suggest and

720
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: he's like, well, we have this. We have this friend

721
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: over here like a partner relation and ship and they

722
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: have a Type six facility that we can operate out

723
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: if we can lease. And I said, cool. The three

724
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: things that I need to make rosin as I need

725
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: to access to ice, I need access to water, and

726
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: don't need a drain. So he takes me over to

727
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: the building and what are the three things This building

728
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: does not have water? Keep going yep. So so for

729
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: the first three months we would truck in IBC cages

730
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: full of ro o, water, ice, our hash washers, everything,

731
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: so we would set up the operation. We would run

732
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: all the water and hash that we had. I'm not

733
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: even lying. This is the first iterationalpen was made out

734
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: of IVYC cages. Said yeah, and and like like I said,

735
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: a ton, you know, Like all we had to do

736
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: was wait two months. And I remember that this is

737
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: what I finally got the CFO, Like I like, I

738
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I get an email that says, I we need to

739
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: talk a little bit. We need to figure out like

740
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: why so much money? Like yeah, like what is this margin?

741
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: Like who did this analysis that I walked into his

742
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: office that I explained to it. I was like, no,

743
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: I said, this was a bad idea, and and and

744
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: he's so, how are we doing it? And I was like, well,

745
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: we we made this weird false logic that getting this

746
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: to market sooner would be better, you know, like it

747
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: was during the big push when Lowell was in four

748
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: hundred stores. You know, we we were we were doing

749
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: a lot of revenue. Just keep keep. It's okay to

750
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: take something. Some revenues better than none, correct. And and

751
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: the way we developed as is, the box was so

752
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: big it took up a bunch of shelf space. So

753
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: the idea was if we could get it on the shelf,

754
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: we like we we would stand out so well based

755
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: on the brand recognition that that it would carry itself.

756
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: So we started creating these inventory levels based on these

757
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: like fictitious ambitions that were based on like false metrics,

758
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: and and that that's when it started becoming this like

759
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: we we It felt like we were chasing our tail

760
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, like we we we we

761
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: we had this. We had this creative meeting where I

762
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 1: got called into an office and I was like, I

763
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: want to make nine different flavors so that we can

764
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: keep this thing rotating and we can keep it relevant,

765
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: we can keep dispensing, reordering it and I remember the

766
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: same founder. He used to me. He's like, there's only

767
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: one good flavor, We're just gonna make that one. I'm like,

768
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: you want to make an this is famous, there's one

769
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: of the one of them. The guys that works here

770
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: was like, why do you only make pink limonade? And

771
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not entirely sure, Like I think

772
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: we just had to run out of our friends pink

773
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: lemonade before we could start making something else. And don't

774
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: get me wrong, one of the best strains it won

775
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: an Emerald Cup, Like it was a hashmaker's dream, great strain,

776
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: but like you don't found a vapen on one strain,

777
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: So like just imagine like how hard it was to

778
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: recreate the other strains after we had already done an

779
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: initial push with stores. So like we send out all

780
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: this pink lemonade to all of our flagship stores, so

781
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: they're all putting it on theirselves, and like we start

782
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: getting back to these calls from our sales reps and

783
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: they're like they need an Indoka and of sativa. We're like, yeah,

784
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: that that makes perfect sense. Like if you're gonna market

785
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: a hybrid, you gotta you gotta market the other two.

786
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: So it could it be lemonade and pink lemonade, Like

787
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: pink lemonade should have been the you know Sativa or

788
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: what happened or whatever. So so that that that's when

789
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: like my my role shift significantly, Like like my my

790
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: my best friend was the chemist that ended up coming

791
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: to Lowell too, and he was the one who ended

792
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: up doing most of the gruntwork in the lab. But

793
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: what would happen is is we had to go into

794
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: procurement because we had to source and create product for

795
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: stores that would get into the store within fifteen to

796
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: twenty one days. You know, we had a three month

797
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: runway to get precliminated in the store. We had a

798
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: twenty one day runway to replace it. Yeah, so so

799
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: I I mean, like like like I said, it was

800
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: there's no need to throw anything under the bus. What

801
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: like the ambition that really pushed us in this direction

802
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: was this, Just like you said, it was to get

803
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: there first and to take as much space and the

804
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: dispensary as possible. You gotta you have the opportunity to

805
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: take it right. Well know what we're talking about the loss, right,

806
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like when when you make a decision. Right,

807
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, what am I gonna do? I'm gonna

808
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: go take a loss. Why, Well, because I have the

809
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to get into stores right now and they're they're

810
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: waiting for the product. Wait two months, the hype behind

811
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: Lowell might not be here. So we have to lose

812
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: money by shipping the ship in here, getting it in

813
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: and then you know, bringing the processes, even though it's

814
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: on the cost of more money than we're gonna make,

815
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: we get the we get the ball rolling, and then

816
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: on the second run we're back to making profitable. Exactly

817
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: in the in theory at the second run was vastly successful.

818
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm never gonna dog the vapen. It was

819
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: a great line. The reality was the launch we had

820
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: we had some significant growing pain because we didn't really

821
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: apply that market research that was necessary for the launch

822
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: um And fortunately the launch went so well they let

823
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: me design six other products for them, so it wasn't

824
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: all bad. Yeah, we we did full amount hash for them.

825
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: We we did uh but Bubble, we did Keith, we

826
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: did infuse pre roles, we did uh a rosin Dart,

827
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: we did a disposable vape, and we did mints. So

828
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: you you have successfully took all those different product lines

829
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: and then put them into over four stores with yep, fantastic.

830
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Now where to go bad? Then? I mean, where's this

831
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: bad part of the whole? Well, as you know, Low

832
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: is pretty famous for pretty specific lawsuit that we we

833
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: we had to engage in, and and only because it's public,

834
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: and only because we came out of it in a

835
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: positive light, do I do? I feel so confident in

836
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: speaking about it. But again, there was a turpulent year

837
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: at loew where we went from having a pop up

838
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: in New wo in Vegas, where we were at the

839
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: top of the world. Jose Andrews was cooking food for us,

840
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: and then literally the next day we find out that

841
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: the largest lawsuit in California history has been served on

842
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: on Low for for for for operating a cannabis activity

843
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: on under expired license on Sunset bullboard. Where was that

844
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: at that that was something I believe it was somewhere

845
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: up in central California really, so it wasn't even the

846
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: one in l A. I thought it was the whole No,

847
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: so that that's why this news was so bad. But

848
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: were they all affected at that point? I mean, obviously

849
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: not not by I'm saying. Were they all shot down

850
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: at that point that they stopped the entire licensing or no.

851
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: So what they actually found out is after the investigation,

852
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: they found out that we did not actually know that

853
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: the license had expired on the facility we were storing

854
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: material and we were still treating the material is fully illegal.

855
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: So what what really put us in a positive light

856
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: and allowed us to move forward was the fact that

857
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: all the product that entered into the space was compliantly tested,

858
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: although it wasn't compliantly packaged because of the laps and

859
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: license at the facility where it was put in two

860
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: pre roles. Oh so that's where it went wrong with Yeah,

861
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: just like remember the old days when you you had

862
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: a farm that had a manufacturing you could set the

863
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: b it was the attorney general. Actually, yeah, it's a

864
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: little different. Yeah, it's a little different. Yeah, they passed

865
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: it up. The result of it though, like I like

866
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: I said, it was ultimately settled and then we we

867
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: had to go through forends like Audit's for the rest

868
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: of our pretty much existence. We like it was funny.

869
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: The only thing that made it a little bit lieved

870
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: was the fact that COVID had just hit. So we're

871
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: going through forensic audits through video chat, so it was

872
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: a little less forensic than you would expect if they Yeah,

873
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: that helps a lot. Yeah, I mean what's gonna be hidden? Yes,

874
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: your photoshop? Yeah, but no, I mean it was still

875
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: not even there. What's a buying that wall? Nothing? Right here? Look,

876
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm show here you go, here, you go up, showing

877
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: you right here. My kids, here's the perfect thing. My

878
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: kids are, you know now they're seventeen and eighteen, about

879
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: seventeen and nineteen and during high school. One of them

880
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: still in high school and the other one to just graduating.

881
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: But you know, they literally got a video where it

882
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: just shows my son, so it looks like he's working

883
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: the whole time. He does like a one hour deal

884
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: where he just on a loop and it's just a loop.

885
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: So the teachers see him doing a whole loop. He's looking,

886
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: he's looking at the screen, and for one hour, this

887
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: kid does the whole thing. And then I'm like, sitting

888
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: on I'm walking in the room. I'm like, what do you?

889
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: I said, how are you on the screen in class?

890
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: In class and you're on your bed your phone? How

891
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: is this possible. It looks like you're on the screen

892
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: on the phone. I'm walking in the room like, hey,

893
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: what's up, dude. He's like, Hey, he's laying on his

894
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: bed and and and and the screens moving and his

895
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: face is on there and his whole class is talking.

896
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm listening to his teacher talking. I'm going, how the

897
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: hell are you on the screen. And he's like, Oh,

898
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: it's a new app, dude, it just we just you

899
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: know this app out. Yeah, but you know what, Yeah,

900
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: I really would have needed that app to help me

901
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: pull some some metric tags because that was the this

902
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: this audit was so interesting to me because the way

903
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: that it works is they already have numbers. They show

904
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: up with a big list and and they basically just

905
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: start going through that list and you have to provide

906
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: the entire chain of custody for that list to show

907
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: that you did the compliant transaction. So, I mean, the

908
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 1: one lapse that we had was filing systems because like,

909
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: like we had digitized most of this stuff so we

910
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: could look it up and knew it existed, but like

911
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: actually finding the tags was really like and the guy

912
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: just sits there like just like you said, like the app.

913
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: He's just sitting there staring at you. And you come

914
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: back and you're like, I need to check this fill.

915
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: He's like, we'll take as much time as you need.

916
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Really, yeah do you Yeah, I'm

917
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: on the s exactly. I'll get paid over time. Just

918
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: go ahead and I'll wait big from So, so how

919
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: does that end up? I mean, I mean, obviously you

920
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: guys passed it right downtown. They so ultimately Low was acquired.

921
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: So now we we passed the audit and we were

922
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: successfully acquired, and and Low Low Low was acquired by

923
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Indus Holdings and that's what became Farms Indus Holdings Indus. Yeah,

924
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: they're they're up in Salinas and so and so and so.

925
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Is that something that's behind him that's involved with them

926
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: as well or was it just another company They just said, hey,

927
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: come on, we'll take you as and call the day. So,

928
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: so again this is a little speculative, but I I know,

929
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident about this information. So originally I believe

930
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: that they were white labeling and co packing Island, and

931
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: and they they had this ambition to have their own

932
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: brand so that they could vertically integrate the production. Low

933
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: at the time was kind of a weak player in

934
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: the space because our ability to sell farm was fairly limited.

935
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: So so what what happened is is was a great

936
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: opportunity for an M and A. And eventually it was

937
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: determined that just a buyout acquisition was in a better

938
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: interest and then change the name, change the name. Yeah,

939
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: that would you buyout and change the name? I mean

940
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: that makes no sense. I mean it almost feels like

941
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: they did. Why would you just start your your new,

942
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: your new process, like the new the new brand, and

943
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: keep with a name that's already has a bran if

944
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: you're a buy low right and want low, Yeah, you

945
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: don't change the name. Good name. I thought it had

946
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: a good name. No, Low Farms is still an okay name.

947
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: They just went from Low Herb Company to Low Farms.

948
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: They're no longer Indus, you know, like the Low Herb. Yeah,

949
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: so we were called Low Herb Company. That was the

950
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: if you look at the packaging, it says little LHC.

951
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: If you look at Indus became Lower Farms and the

952
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: idea was correct, Yeah, the idea farm. Yeah. I'm sorry,

953
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I thought they dumped the name. You're

954
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: talking to alphabet Google right now. Correct. Yeah, they just

955
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: made it more like opportunistic for what they actually do.

956
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, herb is not an appropriate word for what

957
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: they're trying totally de scribe. However, farm farm is and

958
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate the change, you know, like lower farms is great.

959
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: Is the same leadership there with the same guys leading

960
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: that you text and say, hey, we've just seen the

961
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: batmobile over here and all this other stuff. Oh no,

962
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: every everybody, everybody had changed chance myself included like like

963
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: into spot I P and and they had a very

964
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: talented team that was capable of making similar products and

965
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: and and similar platforms and move out the way, let's go,

966
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: move out the way, let's go. And how are they

967
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: performing today in your opinion? Uh, you're welcome to look

968
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: at their stock price. I I don't talk negatively about

969
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: people that I have worked with in the past, that

970
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: they do the things that they do. I would have

971
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: done some things differently, but I'm confident that they'll move

972
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: forward and hopefully be better than they are now. I

973
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: love your approach, and that's a great and not only

974
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: that it's very respectful, but it's an honest But I

975
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: feel the same way to like about certain things unless

976
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: somebody that's how I rock period, exactly, Like that's how

977
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: we expect that's what we expect to like, you know,

978
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like what you say, you expect casts to

979
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: be like that. Like, look, man, we've made money there,

980
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: we did a thing or something went wrong in the the South.

981
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: It didn't make my words together. Walk, what's up? I'm

982
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: still friends with the O G S. I mean, like

983
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: the war stories were worth maintaining the friendships, you know,

984
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't believe in burning bridges. You know, you

985
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: learn from these things, you don't. You don't throw people

986
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: under the bus. You don't. You don't stop working with

987
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: lem You just acknowledge that maybe you need to be

988
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more cautious in the future, or maybe

989
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: stay away, like if in your own self interest. But

990
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: but again, like I evolved in this space because of

991
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: that opportunity in a way that I will always owe

992
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: those people for, you know, like I I learned financial

993
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: acuity from the CFO. You know, the CEO is still

994
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: one of the people that I respect mentors, and all

995
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: of those guys are mentors. To do with the tattoos

996
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: and lake forest that you went to jail for you know,

997
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: may he rest in peace, you know, now he passed

998
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: on this unfortunately. Yeah, no, I out of honor to him,

999
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: I tell his story. He was the first forty five

1000
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: cap in Orange County. You know, like, like not everyone

1001
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: has a colored past. It's it's about rehabilitation, and he

1002
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: was just trying to make a life for his family's

1003
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: well oh yeah, I mean, I mean that being said,

1004
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: we didn't say anything about his past, but that guy

1005
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: had a rough start, right he did. You know, like

1006
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of the people that work in this

1007
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: industry worked in this industry as a result of committing

1008
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: a crime, getting in trouble. You know, it was an

1009
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to make money even if you've gotten in trouble.

1010
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: So so so again, I always try to look at

1011
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: people with the most positive light, and I have nothing

1012
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: but respect for him. But yeah, I I think it

1013
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: was one of those things where no matter how he

1014
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: had kind of aligned himself, it was ultimately going to

1015
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: fail because unfortunately, just like you guys said, there's not

1016
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot of room in this industry for for darkness.

1017
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: You know, we we we need to lead with the light.

1018
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: And I that that's what I learned from him. You know,

1019
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: I learned college. Sure, I learned. Stoner is an interesting term,

1020
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily negative. But I'm a businessman first. You know,

1021
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm very passionate. I'm an entrepreneur, you know, like I

1022
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: don't consider myself a loady. Like my mom always goes

1023
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: through the list of terms that she used to have, yeah,

1024
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, like all all those like eighties nineties terms

1025
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: for like like funny duddies that that were smoking the earth,

1026
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: and I I look at her and I'm like, Mom,

1027
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: you're nothing but proud of me. She's like, yeah, but

1028
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I still like living, living, talking, talking, drive, you know.

1029
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: So it's it's really she does that's awesome. So listen

1030
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: to I mean, I mean, I love your story. Anything

1031
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: that we're missing here before we let you get on

1032
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: out of here, I mean that we didn't cover that

1033
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: you want to cover, I don't think so. I think

1034
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: we got everything. I mean, I've always had great opportunities

1035
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: to work at places, just seeing the interesting things that

1036
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes. Always interesting. One of the things

1037
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: that Lowe did really amazing and I will never forget

1038
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: is stay threw a bitch and party, Like when we

1039
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: used to have bud tender parties that like, those are

1040
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: some great parties. That's always the best part, right, Like

1041
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: we do great parties too in my book, Like we

1042
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: host and we present great events where we care. We

1043
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: want to make sure you have a good time and

1044
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: all the good things that happened. And I agree with you,

1045
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: those are some memorable moments. We like to do that

1046
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: for people as well, especially you guys. Yeah, no, I've

1047
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: been to a uplr as his events and like just wow,

1048
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: you know, you guys know how to entertain. You guys

1049
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: know to make people everyone feel like they're a v

1050
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: I P. They're great. You wore a v I P

1051
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: M before we do let you go. We do want

1052
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: to do that at v I P High five with

1053
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Adam Moody, the director of manufacturing at Alchemy twenty nine. Now,

1054
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: how old you the first time you smoked cannabis? And

1055
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: where did you get it from? Adam? Sixteen? My mom's

1056
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: My mom had a catering gig at five am, and

1057
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: I wanted the neighbor kids to drive me home, So

1058
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: she knocked on their door while they were hot boxing

1059
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: and asked him if if they would take me to school.

1060
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: She she didn't identify that they were smoking, so they

1061
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: just nerdy. At the first day, I was in chess

1062
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: club at the time, academic to cathlon, so so they

1063
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: said they get me a hot box El Camino. I

1064
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: fell asleep in first period of English. Miss Reynolds will

1065
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: remember this story. Yeah, no, literally thought you were dead.

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00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, being in chess club.

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00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: Did you love the Queen's Gamut? Did I love the

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00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: Queen's Big Gamut? I love everything on Netflix. It puts

1069
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: me to sleep. It's it's like a Lula put the

1070
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Queen's Gamut, and Chess is just one of those shows

1071
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: that I never would think that in my wildest dreams,

1072
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: I would say, oh my god, this movie. What's it about.

1073
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: It's about a girl who plays chess, and I loved it.

1074
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I really makes you go, oh my god, this is amazing,

1075
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: such a good story. It wasn't that final chess battle

1076
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: like it was really compelling. I really did enjoy it.

1077
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: There was one micause it was a little short, you know,

1078
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: like you got through it really quick for a Netflix show,

1079
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, like like I kind of like something that

1080
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: I can binge watch for a few days, not like

1081
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: a day but otherwise, have you hit up Emily in parishut?

1082
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: I have not yet. I'm gonna have to check it out.

1083
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: Check that out. Go ahead and check that out. Question

1084
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: number two Blue, Question number two of the high five.

1085
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: What is your favorite way to use or smoke cannabis.

1086
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm a dabber solving list like I I my my.

1087
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: I will try other people's product out of respect, but

1088
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: generally speaking, out of the last eighteen years I've been

1089
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: in cannabis, of what I've ingested, I've made, you've made

1090
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: or grown yep. I I like, like I said, I

1091
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: believe in providence. I believe in knowing what I put

1092
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: it into my body. So I've I've had a role

1093
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: or contributed or otherwise made everything that I've smoked over

1094
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: the last eighteen years. I love that you don't want

1095
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: you know exactly what you're putting in your body. I mean,

1096
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: let's keep it one ut. Like, well you come out

1097
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: side though, didn't you? Yeah, like I said, But again

1098
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I got that from We got that from Adam, you know,

1099
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: like like he said, try it like whatever you have

1100
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: we know we know. But again I I do like

1101
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: the idea of it, you know, for for many years

1102
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: though I could very much understand you because I was

1103
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: involved in it, you know what I mean. Like you're

1104
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: like you literally walk out the house and be like,

1105
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm smoking this one. Like you might have five different

1106
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: brands that you're rocking with. You like, this is my

1107
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: my stride, you know today, and you start taking that

1108
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: and you're living off of that one without harvest, and

1109
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: you kind of just know what your baby is and

1110
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: you start rocking with it. You know what. You've got

1111
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this, But she'll tell you

1112
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: when I got. When I go to the cannabis cupt

1113
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: to go meet vendors and talk shop, I usually pull

1114
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: out of my pocket and give them something to smoke.

1115
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: Very rare, very rarely do I sample at the table,

1116
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: but I will often pull something out that they say

1117
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, And I have you tried a solvent

1118
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: list turpin sauce and they're like, that doesn't exist. Here

1119
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: you go, I made it myself, like you said, I

1120
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: made it this morning. I don't know if you know,

1121
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: but I'm the manufacturing director over here. Oh yeah, what,

1122
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: I didn't charge of prototyping, so I make things that

1123
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: we never sell. So I trust me there's there's a

1124
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: punch of things that still haven't been made. Question number

1125
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 1: three in the High Pi with Adam Moody, Craziest place

1126
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: you ever used cannabis or smoke. The Great Wall of

1127
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: a country that I don't want to name, but the

1128
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: great Wall of it was Ada. It had seeds in it.

1129
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: I remember, like again, I was a really stubborn at

1130
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: a piece stubborn kid. So so no it was. It

1131
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: was an apple and it was during a music festival.

1132
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: Paul Oakenfell was performing at a electronic music festival on

1133
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: the Great Wall of China called the Yen on the

1134
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: Great Wall. And I remember it was my birthday gift

1135
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: because I saw I was in China for ten weeks

1136
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: that overlapped my birthday, and the other English people in

1137
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: the group bought me this ticket to this event. And

1138
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: I remember I literally bought dirt weed from an African

1139
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: in China and I brought it with me to the

1140
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Great Well of China and on a rainy morning, was

1141
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: sitting in a tower, chiefed it up. Dude. Let me

1142
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: ask you this fun, Let me ask you this. Um.

1143
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: You know China, Dude, ten weeks in China, I mean,

1144
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: you know I was surprised you came back. Bro, I

1145
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: can't wait to go back, like you almost didn't leave. Huh.

1146
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: It was hard, you know, like Americans are like celebrities

1147
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: are right, celebrities, they take your picture, they hand you

1148
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: like kids. So what I was doing to sustained my

1149
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: lifestyle China is I was I was teaching English to

1150
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: so wealthy families to get rid of the accents because

1151
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: English is compulsory in China, but they don't they learn

1152
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: it from Chinese speakers. So the wealthy people in China

1153
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: that plan on having their their kids like do international business,

1154
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: they'll have US Americans actually take them for a day

1155
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: and just teach them for vernacular English. So they'd like

1156
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: pay for me to go to the park theme parks

1157
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: like Laser tax just talk to him all. And I

1158
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: made I made us wages in China. I remember I

1159
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: had an internship for a company that represented Johnny Walker

1160
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: and Audie and halfway through the internship, I was like,

1161
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: I'm making four times it's as much money, and I

1162
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: worked a quarter of the time. Like I love you guys.

1163
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: I'll do some events, I'll do some translating, but I'm

1164
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: out you people. You know, I had a little like

1165
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: a six or seven year old kid that like barely

1166
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: even talked, but he would like pointed animals and he

1167
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: handa and you'd be like, handa, you know, just panda,

1168
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: and uh, that's great if you if you made me too, Yeah, absolutely.

1169
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: Question number four of the high five. What is your

1170
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: go to munchies after you get high? Anything fried? Hot

1171
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: and fried? It's always fried, you know. Like I'll find

1172
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: myself like, literally do the eggs salad sandwich when I

1173
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: gave myself really high. Yeah, just just what do you?

1174
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: Just regular? Right? Just just just mayonnaise, egg and then

1175
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: and some salt. A lot of people don't do the manais,

1176
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: so I do mayonnaise on it all the like I'm

1177
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: a man. I do with manonnaise. I know a lot

1178
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: of I've read it. A lot of people don't. I'm

1179
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: just saying I know a lot, but I don't know.

1180
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it either. A lot

1181
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: of people don't put mamonnaise. I would you put it in

1182
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: in there on egg salad sands. I hate to hand

1183
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: with too many people, healthy people in Orange County. You

1184
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, No, Yeah, it's a hispanic

1185
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: thing for me being what I'm saying, I'm like, why

1186
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: I had mayonnaise too? I think, like, you know, I

1187
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: don't know macaroni salad for me, macaroni salad is just

1188
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: mayonnaise in the thing, and started adding all action. I mean,

1189
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: just go start with some mail. Question number five, Question

1190
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: number five with the high five you can smoke cannabis

1191
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: with anyone did or alive? Who would it be and why?

1192
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably Winston Churchill. I want to hear

1193
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: the stories, you know, like I remember, like growing up,

1194
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: my favorite people that talked to you were like the

1195
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: guys that like like like really fought these like big

1196
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: massive battles. Like I wouldn't want to smoke with a

1197
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: stoner because like I've smoked with some impressive stoners. But

1198
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: I really want is I really want to get a

1199
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: guy high that never in a million years would smoke

1200
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: and here fascinating things that came out of his about

1201
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: you know so true? Right, What is you gonna say?

1202
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: What kind of story? Yeah, like like you remember the

1203
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: first time you got high, Imagine doing that to the

1204
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: Prime Minister during World War too, you know, like he'd

1205
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: be like the cactus told me not to tell you

1206
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: about the peace treaty, you know, like it'd be something cool,

1207
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: it would be, it would be that's a good one.

1208
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: That's a interesting one. I think we have somebody else

1209
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: say that before though. Is there anything we missed so

1210
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: I know, blues at you that anything at him that

1211
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: you want to get out there before we let you go. Now,

1212
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: last thing, I'm pretty famous in Lake County. Apparently there's

1213
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: a small horse farm and you're not supposed to feed

1214
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: the bird seed. And I learned that the really hard way.

1215
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: So so if you ever come to Lake County, I'll

1216
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: show you the farm that I'm no longer allowed to

1217
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: harass the small horses on look up at a Moody

1218
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: out there. Appreciate you. Hey man, it's Cannabis Talk one

1219
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: on one, and remember this, if no one else loves you,

1220
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: we do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one

1221
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: on one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast

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00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.