1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we're talking 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: about redheads, from red fur to red hair to red scales. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: We're seeing red in a whole new light. Discover this 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: and more as we answer the age old question why 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: are red pandas? Joining me today to talk until We're 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: red in the face is video essayist, actor and writer 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: and friend of the show, Maggie may Fish. Welcome, Hello, Katie, 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: Thank you us so much for having me on such 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: an austachious episode. That austachious, it's I think that's like 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: auspicious plus ostentatious. Maybe all right, a very exciting episode. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: My dear Katie, So you've you've actually seen the new movie, uh, 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: Turning Red right, the new Pixar movie. Yes, yes, I 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: have not yet, so no spoilers, um. But it has 16 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: something to do with a little girl turning into well 17 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: a young lady perhaps turning into a red panda at times. 18 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: And it looks adorable. Did you enjoy it? I was 19 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: telling right before we started recording. It's one of my 20 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: favorite Pixar movies that I've seen a hot second. Yeah, 21 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I loved it. That's great, that's great. Yeah, I mean, 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: I promise this is not like a paid advertisement show. 23 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I'm just really excited that there is a Pixar movie 24 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: that features the Red Panda because they are adorable, adorable animals, 25 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: amazing animals are adorable. And I will say this is 26 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: no spoilers, but Red Panda's being adorable is a big 27 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: part of the plot. I'm sold already, so I'm absolutely 28 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna see it. But yeah, I thought that with that 29 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: movie out, I could do a show on the red 30 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: heads of the Animal Kingdom. So we'll start out with 31 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: some facts about red pandas and then we're going to 32 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: move on to some other animals that feature a red head. 33 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: And a spoiler alert, you don't always need hair to 34 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: be a red head. But yeah, So first let's start 35 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: out with the fabulous red Panda. So quick facts about 36 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: red Panta. First of all, most important fact is they're 37 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: incredibly cute. Just yes, number one scientific fact. Yeah, very cute. Yeah, 38 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: there have been the whole papers written about how cute 39 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: it is and how it's a little tootsy wood sees 40 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: are just adorable. So, despite the fact that they are 41 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: called red pandas, they are actually not related to giant pandas, 42 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: those big lovable black and white bears. Giant pandas are 43 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: in the bear family orsa Day, whereas red pandas are 44 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: in the mist Doyla day family, which includes weasels, skunks, 45 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: and raccoons. So they are not Yeah, they're not really 46 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: related to panda bears, the red pandas, even though they 47 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: share a similar habitat. I knew about the raccoons, but 48 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't even think of weasels. But 49 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: nobody ever thinks of the poor weasels on purpose. Yeah, 50 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I think of the weasels always. But yeah, So, even 51 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: though they are in the same clayd as bears, they're 52 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: actually more closely related to walruses than they are to bears. 53 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, not not very closely related to panda bear 54 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: is at all. And so just a quick sort of 55 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: visual description of the red panda. I'm sure a lot 56 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: of people have seen them because they are a striking animal, 57 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: very cute. They have this stunning red fur, white tipped ears, eyebrows, cheeks, 58 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: and muzzles. They have black rings, on their tail and 59 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: black belly fur. There typically about the size of maybe 60 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: a large house cat, but they can weigh up to 61 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: around thirty pounds or fifteen kilograms, so they can get 62 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, chubby and chicken. Maybe not as big as 63 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: the red panda in the in the movie, but they 64 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: are they they're they're cute, little little dudes. So what 65 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: they do share with the giant panda is its habitats. 66 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: So similar to the giant panda bear, they do live 67 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: in China. Uh. There are also Himalayan subspecies of red panda. 68 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: Oh I did not know that. Yeah, So they will 69 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: live in bamboo and mixed forests. They are arboreal, meaning 70 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: they spend most of their time hanging out in trees. Also, 71 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: similar to the giant panda, they have false thumbs that 72 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: they can use to climb and grasp bamboo, and they 73 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: also do like to eat bamboo. They are mostly herbivorous, 74 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: and we'll eat bamboo leaves and shoots and use their 75 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 1: little little thumbs not just to climb trees, but also 76 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: to grab onto a piece of bamboo and pull it 77 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: down to their mouth and chew on it. An impression, yes, 78 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: and it was very convincing. I thought I was talking 79 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to red panda. Actually, I've seen a red panda at 80 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: the Sandy Ugo Zoo a couple of months ago. Um, 81 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, are just sleeping in the trees. They love 82 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: to sleep. It's like their favorite thing to do. They're 83 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: actually nocturnal crepuscular, meaning they are most active in twilight 84 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: and at night. Um. But during the day they love 85 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: to sleep and they'll just hang out in a tree, 86 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: like with their little feet just dangling down, splayed out. Um. 87 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: And when it gets cold, they actually can survive in 88 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: in cold temperatures, like in in snowy areas. What they'll 89 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: do is they're still sleeping in the tree, but they'll 90 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: curl up into a little ball and use that big 91 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: fluffy tail as a blanket to cover themselves, so they're 92 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: nice and cozy, don't I just I love I love 93 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: the commitment to tree naps in these little dudes. It's 94 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: just total commitment to the sleepy tree lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah, 95 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: it really makes a person wanna do the same, large tree, 96 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: live there for as long as possible, just dangling, and 97 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: it would seem like they'd be sitting ducks lying in 98 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: those trees. Taking all these naps because they're that bright 99 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: red coloration, and so like, oh, well, wouldn't some kind 100 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: of predator just go and grab them. But actually they 101 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: do have a form of camouflage because in these trees 102 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: that they like to sleep, they the trees often host 103 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: big clusters of this rusty brown moss, this kind of 104 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: reddish brown moss, and it's just kind of dangles from 105 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: these trees and big clumps, and so the red panda 106 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: when it's dangling and napping, kind of looks like a 107 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: big clump of moss. WHOA, Okay, that means I was 108 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: about to have I didn't want to ask you too 109 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: many questions, Katy, but I was going to ask you know, yeah, 110 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: how can they send a tree all day? That's wild? 111 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: I did not know that. I mean, first of all, 112 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: you can ask me all the questions you want. I 113 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: should not have held back. Yeah. So um. And one 114 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: of the reasons they do like to nap so much 115 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: is that their metabolism is a little weird. Similar to 116 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: the panda, they actually take it. It's not so efficient 117 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: for them to eat bamboo, even though it is a 118 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: successful strategy because bamboo so plentiful. They actually have a 119 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: carnivores gut, and they are not very efficient at eating vegetation. 120 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: This is the same as the unrelated giant panda, who 121 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: also has a bear's car carnivores gut. Um, so giant 122 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: panda's actually the bears have to eat their mother's poop 123 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: when they're very young to get the right gut bioms 124 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: so they can actually digest bamboo, and red pandas have 125 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: a similar specific gut biom. I wasn't able to find 126 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: any information on whether they eat their mother's poop. You 127 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: would think that if they did that it would be known, 128 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: but um, they do have to eat around of their 129 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: weight in bamboo in order to extract enough energy from it, 130 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: and which seems like a lot. But they're actually a 131 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: little more efficient than giant pandas because they're able. The 132 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: red panda is able to digest around of the vegetation 133 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: they eat, whereas giant pandas can only digest around sev 134 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: of the vegetation vegetation. So yeah, yeah, red panda's much 135 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: more efficient, much more productive, and they poop really fast 136 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: too because they're digestive system. Yeah, oh good, good, Yes, 137 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm happy for them, honestly, not just note that is funny. 138 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 1: I mean there are I feel like humans include it, 139 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, as not being able to process lacta. There 140 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: are so many things that you know, creatures aren't technically 141 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: perfect for in their environment, but they still make do 142 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: or find ways to adapt, right, us included soy milk. Yeah, 143 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is really interesting because you 144 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: look at how essentially it's very rare for a carnivore 145 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: to kind of make that transition to vegetation, like the 146 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: red panda has um. The fact that the bamboo so 147 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: plentiful means that it is it can create these evolutionary 148 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: niches for animals to exploit, and so even if it's 149 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: somewhat inefficient for them to digest it, the fact that 150 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: there's just so much dang bamboo, it's like they're going 151 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: to exploit that resource. Yeah, I feel like at that point, 152 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: having even though only like of it gets digested, it's everywhere. 153 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you know, it's like you know McDonald's, 154 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: technically you can't really digest it, but it's everywhere. It's everywhere, 155 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: So of course I'm going to get so red pandas 156 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: have diversified their diet a little more than the giant panda. 157 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: They will also eat fruit, acorns, eggs, and even small 158 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: animals such as birds or small mammals, but they really 159 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: don't actively sort of like make that a huge part 160 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: of their diets. Just kind of opportunistic. Yeah, they just 161 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: mostly like the lazy lifestyle of eating bamboo and sleeping 162 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot because they need to conserve their energy because 163 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: it's such a such a difficult plant to digest in 164 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: their little carnivore tummies. They're also kind of loaners. They're solitary. 165 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Cubs will hang out with their moms for a while, 166 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: but adults will mostly lead solitary lives, and so in 167 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: order to mate, they actually need a few tricks in 168 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: order to enter the dating pool actually find someone to 169 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: mate with. One thing they do is make calls. So 170 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: females will make this adorable sound when they are in 171 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: the mood for romance that I will play for you 172 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: right now, and that is called twittering that sounds like 173 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I have horse have goose like cute that very cute, 174 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: very cute horse goose sound that they're making. They will 175 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: also leave piles of poop as calling cards for other 176 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: eligible red panda bachelor's or bachelorettes to find. Remember when 177 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: I said they actually poop really fast after eating. Uh, 178 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: those piles of poop are sort of like an indication 179 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: that they're nearby, because you know, the fresh pile of poop. Hey, 180 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: you must have been here pretty pretty you know recently, 181 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: so come find me. Yeah, it's like leaving your number 182 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: around exactly exactly. It's like, Hey, that that hot red 183 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: panta just gave me your poop pile. I think I 184 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: got a shot. Oh my god, go get her. We 185 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: have to talk about baby red pandas. It's a necessity. 186 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: They are extremely playful and full of energy. So Sarah Glass, 187 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: a curator of the Red Panda exhibit at Knoxville Zoo, 188 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: told Smithsonian Magazine that at six weeks old, red pandas 189 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: reached the popcorn stage where they will randomly jump around, 190 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: jump into walls, jump into each other. They just at 191 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: this age are rambunctious and extremely playful. Oh. They'll also 192 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: stand up on their high pause and like hold their 193 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: arms out and then pounce on their their parents as 194 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: this kind of like a game, which they'll actually do 195 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: as adults. Uh. If they are territorial, so they have 196 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: this kind of like they're they're so cute. They're too 197 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: cute to fight in a way that's scary. It's just 198 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: like this standing and lunging kind of thing to try 199 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: to intimidate the other red panda away. Oh man. Yeah, 200 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: it's like tries you might still look like an adorable 201 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: stuffed animal. It's really it's like it's it's really like 202 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: one of those bro fights, you know where the bro 203 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: where it's a couple of bros and they're like, so like, 204 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: you want to go, Bro, you want to go, But 205 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: then they never go. They never really go because they're 206 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: actually friends, you know, but yeah, you know, they gotta 207 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: have a little posture, bro, Yeah I'll go. Bro. They 208 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: show each other, they're like tribal tats and everything. You're like, 209 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, but they they're never Their intention is never 210 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: to really actually go. It's just, you know, just to 211 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: get that holographic Pokemon. The other one has one weird 212 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: fact that we know about red pandas that I don't 213 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: know why we need to know this, but we do, 214 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna tell you is that red pandas are 215 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the only known non primate that is able to taste 216 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: artificial sweetener, uh, which researchers found out because they left 217 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: out bowls of water sweeted with artificial sweetener versus plain water, 218 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: and the red panda's preferred the bowls with the artificial 219 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: sweetener in it, so they can taste artificial sweetener. Well, 220 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: there goes all my diet cokes, dandies. I hate the 221 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: taste of a sparta What is it a sparta me 222 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: or yeah, yeah, I know my partner, Yeah, I cannot 223 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: stand it. Um, yeah, yeah, it's and I think it's 224 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: a genetic thing where it's there's a like you just 225 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: have a certain like taste receptor that can pick up 226 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: on this kind of aftertaste that taste kind of nasty. 227 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: And so these researchers are saying there's like this genetic 228 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: aspect in wild animals of whether or not they're able 229 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: to taste artificial sweetener, just like in humans. Sometimes our 230 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: taste buds are kind of different, and some people hate 231 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: the taste of Brussels sprouts, some people love it, and 232 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: that kind of there's like this difference in the way 233 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: that we can perceive taste, and that's the same thing 234 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: with animals as well. Um, but apparently the red Panta's 235 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: love a spotted meat, so they can have mine. Yeah. Oh, 236 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: there we go. You know what, the world finds a 237 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: way to balance itself out. Googlemats it from redhead to redhead. 238 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: You can have my. Now we are going to talk 239 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: about another stunning redhead in the animal kingdom, and this 240 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: is the red Uakari, also known as the bald Uakari 241 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: or the English monkey. Uh. These are New World monkeys 242 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: of who not only have a marvelous red coat, but 243 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: a bright red face that looks exactly like my face 244 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: after I've been out in the sun with no sunscreen. Uh, Maggie, 245 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: do you are you able to like be out in 246 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: the sun without getting a sunburn? Uh? Oh no, no 247 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: actually uh in high school I was once sun burned 248 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: by the moon somehow burned. Yes, yes, very thin skin. Um, 249 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: wear a lot of hats. Yeah so yes, I also 250 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: deeply identify this monkey that I existed. Yes. Yeah, you 251 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: have to wear sunscreen, folks, You just have to. It's 252 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: so important. Mm hmmm you don't want to be called Rudolph. 253 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: It's also very important for your health. Um. But fortunately 254 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: these red Uakaris are not sunburned. This is their natural 255 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: pigmentation and it's totally healthy and uh, they actually find 256 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: it very attractive. And so a little bit of info 257 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: about these monkeys. They are found only in western regions 258 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: of the Amazon in Brazil and Peru in var Zaiah 259 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: forests and so these are forests that are floodplains near 260 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: white water rivers and so during the wet season, during 261 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: the rainy season, these uh forests was actually flood. The 262 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: bald uakari is a little monkeys's just a little little dudes. 263 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: They will, Yeah, they kind of look like when you 264 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: look at a picture of it, you kind of get 265 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the sense that they're kind of big, but that they're 266 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: just really fluffy. They're super they've got this very shaggy furbit. 267 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: In reality, they're only around eight pounds um, which is 268 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: three point five um. They have that really shaggy red 269 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: coat and a stout little tail. So unlike a lot 270 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: of primates, there are a few primates that have like, 271 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: you know, no tail, but uh, in terms of a 272 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of monkeys will actually have a long, pre insile tail. 273 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: But these monkeys, uh do have a tail, but it's 274 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: really stubby. It's um, it's like it's not so short 275 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: that it's like a bobcat length tail. It's a little 276 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: longer than that, but it's not as long as typically 277 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: a monkey's tail would be. And it's also super thick 278 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: and fluffy. It's adorable. Yeah, it looks like a furry 279 00:19:53,920 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: beaver tail. It does, it really does. And they speaking 280 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: of beavers, they have these very powerful jaws with these 281 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: intimidating looking bulging fans um but these are not really 282 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: used for predation. Their teeth form a comb that they 283 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: can use to strip open hard, unripe fruit and pry 284 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: open the shells of nuts. They love to eat nuts. 285 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: That is one of their favorite foods, along with seeds. 286 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: Uh Sometimes they'll eat fruit, flowers or random stuff they 287 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: find like animals, tiny animals or bugs, but that's mostly 288 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: just like you know, they'll eat it if they find it. Yeah, exactly, 289 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: you know. But uh So, during the flooding seasons, they 290 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: spend all of their time in the tree tops, completely 291 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: avoiding the ground because it's full of water and they 292 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: don't want to be in there. And so in the 293 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: dry season they will sometimes come down from the trees 294 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: to scavenge for seeds and other foods, but they really 295 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: do prefer to be up in the trees, similar to 296 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: the red pandas. Unlike the red pandas, however, they are 297 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: highly social. They live in groups ranging from five They're 298 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: highly she's waiting to she hears me, and she knows 299 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: mm hmmm hm. They are highly social, living in groups 300 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: ranging from five members to a hundred, which is yeah. 301 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: Can you you're looking at a picture of one of 302 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: these beautiful red faced, bald faced beauties. It's just can 303 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: you imagine a hundred of them hanging around in the 304 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: tree tops? I cannot, but I can tell you that's 305 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: a party I would want to be invited to. Yes, 306 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: do you think they would welcome me as a straw 307 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: very blonde? Or do you think I'm not? I gotta 308 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: quite honestly, your hair does have the beautiful like copper 309 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: color of their you know, the fluffiest parts of them. 310 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: So as long as you were sunburned, yeah, yeah, get 311 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: a sunburn, which I usually try not to do to 312 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: avoid skin cancer, but for the monkeys, maybe I'll do it. 313 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: So um. Yeah. Being red in the face is not 314 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: actually a sign of anger in these monkeys. This is 315 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: a permanent coloration and it's actually an indicator of good health. 316 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: Monkeys that are sick will often have a more pale, 317 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: blanched face, so having that bright red face will make 318 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: them attractive to mates. Um. Another thing they do to 319 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: make themselves attractive to mates. At least the females will 320 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: produce their own perfume, uh sent that they use to 321 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: attract males. So just you know, like, what is she 322 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: who is she wearing? She's wearing herself. That's beautiful and 323 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: very deep it is she doesn't need to change for anyone, Yeah, exactly. Um. 324 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: So even though they're typically like pretty pretty sociable, they 325 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: will be territorial. So a group will claim a territory 326 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: and they actually have like a core group of females 327 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: that don't change territories, and they will be joined by 328 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: males from that were born in another group. Smartene pool. Well, 329 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's kind of similar to the way 330 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: this happens in various groups of social animals. So it's 331 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: similar to the way that lion prides actually work. In 332 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: this case, they're actually multiple males that will come live 333 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: with the female, so it's not like one male with 334 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of females or two you know, males with 335 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: a bunch of females um. But with lions, typically the 336 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: females will form sort of this core group that is 337 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: relatively stable, and the daughters kind of stay and don't disperse, 338 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: whereas the males that are born in that group will 339 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: go off and disperse and start their own pride or 340 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: joined another pride. And uh So it's a similar thing 341 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: with these monkeys, except that the there are multiple males 342 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: in a group, and they'll you know, hang out in 343 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: this territory. And then when males are born in this group, 344 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: once they reach maturity, they'll go off and disperse and 345 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: join a different group somewhere else. Um. And in order 346 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: to maintain their territory from possible other uakari who want 347 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: to come in and uh steal their space, they will 348 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: actually put on aggressive displays like puffing out their shaggy 349 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: coats and wagging their little stubby tails and yelling. It 350 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: honestly sounds really cute. I'm sure to be intimidating, just 351 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: like the red pandas standing on their hind legs and 352 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: like holding their arms out. It's like, yeah, I know, 353 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: like you're trying to tell me to go away, but 354 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: it looks like you want to hug. I just want 355 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: to scoop you up more. Yeah, do do not do that, 356 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: but I understand the desire to do so so much. So, yes, 357 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: it's a little guy. Yeah you're you're a You're a 358 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: reptile fan, aren't you. I am, Yes, I love them. 359 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, uh, this we are talking about a red 360 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: head that does not need hair to have a red head. 361 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: This is the a gamma A gamma it is a 362 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: lizard found in sub Saharan Africa. Um. It is also 363 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: known as the red headed rock gama. So these little 364 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: guys are well, they're not that tiny, but they're not big. 365 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: So they're around thirteen to thirty centimeters which is like 366 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: five to eleven inches long. Males are generally larger than 367 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: the females. Okay, that's bigger than I thought. Yeah they're 368 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: they're not They're they're not little tiny like um, you know, 369 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: little tiny lizards you find in your garden typically, But yeah, 370 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: they're they're a little bigger, but they're not huge. So 371 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: they are insectivores who use uh, their tongue to be 372 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: They have like this mucous gland on the end of 373 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: their tongue and like use it to stick on to 374 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: pray kind of like um, like a chameleon um, but 375 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a short, shorter tongue, so they don't 376 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: have the same kind of like whip like tongue that yeah, exactly, 377 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's sticky, so it can trap insects. So 378 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: the reason it's known as the red headed rock a 379 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: gama is that dominant males have a bright red head, 380 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: and uh, they also have this beautiful bright blue body. 381 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: So females, juvenile males, and subordinate males have more of 382 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: an olive green coloration. So adult males will have a 383 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: blue body, but only the dominant males will have this 384 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: bright red colored head, and their heads will actually change 385 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: colors from all of two red if they become the 386 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: dominant male. WHOA, that's wild, like the whole visual of 387 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: an animal changing just because of their position in their 388 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: community exactly. Yeah. The fact that the politics can actually 389 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: like you know, it is kind of funny, like you know, 390 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: we have like you know, red and blue colors that 391 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: are associated with politics, and then with these lizards, like 392 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: their heads literally will turn red when they win a 393 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: political battle. M O. So the dominant male is known 394 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: as the cock. So h it is the only one 395 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: who is able to mate with females. So the cocks 396 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: mating territory is usually centered around a display rock on 397 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: which the cock will sits. The cock sits on the rock, uh, 398 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: and it will cock on the rock and it will 399 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: seduce females by bobbing its head and doing push ups. 400 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: So very cocky indeed, yes, yes, how true to life. 401 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: So subordinate males can only mate if they find their 402 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: own territory or successfully knock the cock off his rock, 403 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: fighting him and winning to gain his territory in mating opportunities. 404 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: The subordinate's head color will then change and he will 405 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: become the new champion with the red head. Um And 406 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: to try to deter a subordinate males from trying to 407 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: take them on, dominant males will do the same kind 408 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: of tough guy push ups, but in this case, instead 409 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: of using it to flirt, they're using it to try 410 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: to threaten these subordinate males. M hm. Threatening and flirting 411 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: are two sides of a similar coin. I mean, like, 412 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: isn't that it's kind of you know when when someone 413 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: like flexes, you know, it's like, uh, look how strong 414 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: I am. It can be a form of flirtation with people, 415 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: or it can be like a you know threat, like 416 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm really strong. Um, so it's like a threat to 417 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: your your competition, but maybe to someone you're trying to seduce. 418 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: It's not it's like saying, hey, check out these welcome 419 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: two tickets to the gun show. So, uh, they are 420 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: able to quickly change the shape of these nano structures 421 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: on their skin and the the krematophores and distribution of 422 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: the pigmentation to be able to undergo this dramatic rapid 423 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: color change. And their color can change not only based 424 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 1: on sort of there you know position, their dominant position. 425 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: It can also be based on temperature, season, mood. So yeah, 426 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: these are these are the mood rings of the animal kingdom. Wow? 427 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: And so does it come from it comes from like 428 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: inside the animal as opposed to like an external uh 429 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: thing making them change color? Yeah? Will it in their 430 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: little hearts? Yeah? So it's I mean it's probably regulated 431 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: with things like hormones that will trigger this this change 432 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: in I mean you think about how like when you're embarrassed, right, 433 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: you blush, and that is a physical change that happens 434 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: on your body, but it is based on your your 435 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: you get a sort of maybe a rush of adrenaline 436 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: or something, and it makes you flush, it opens up 437 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: the blood vessels. Now for these lizards, it's a different 438 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: mechanism where it's not so much that they're they're blushing, 439 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: as it is these these cells that will form the 440 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: color on their skin will undergo sort of a structural 441 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: change that changes how the light hits it, and it 442 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: also can change these way that the pigmentation is distributed. Uh. 443 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: These cells are called the chromatophores um. I don't think 444 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: as much is known about how these specific lizards the 445 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: mechanism works, but there are similar mechanisms that happen with 446 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: say like chameleons, and that's how they can rapidly change 447 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: their color. So it seems like it's probably a pretty 448 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: similar mechanism. But yeah, it is is fascinating that a 449 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: lizard can feel like like, oh, I'm I'm the king 450 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: of the hell now, and so my face is going 451 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: to be red. Yes, it is something where it is 452 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily that they're thinking through I'm going to turn 453 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: red now, but it is a physiological change similar to 454 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: like if you're maybe scared or like, uh, you're watching 455 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: a thriller or maybe even listening to a piece of 456 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: music where you can get goose bumps. So like, that 457 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: is a physical change on your body that is occurring 458 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: just from how you're feeling, which is kind of crazy 459 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: when you think about it. Yeah, little guys feeling. It 460 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: would be a lot easier to be a therapist if 461 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: like your patients literally like turns the kind of colors 462 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: that they were feeling, so you can be like, well, okay, 463 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: so I see that your face is turning red, um, 464 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: and your body is turning blue. So uh, not the 465 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: cock off the rock. So before we go, we have 466 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: to address a very important issue and that is the 467 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: mystery animal sound from last week. Every week I play 468 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: a mystery animal sound and you out there, the audience, 469 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: and you the gifts try to guess who's squawking. And 470 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: I give you a little hint because I'm not I'm 471 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: not mean, um, and you will try to guess who 472 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: is making that sound. It can be any animal. It 473 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: can be a fish, it can be a bird, it 474 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: can be it can be a you know, a bear, anybody, 475 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what, any animal. With that said, uh, I 476 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: will play for you this sound that we played last week. 477 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: And here is the hint. When you find out how 478 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: this sound is produced. I'll bet I could knock you 479 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: over with a feather, all right, where you're able to 480 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: hear that little people? Yes, wow, Well, first of all, 481 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: it was very relaxing. I felt like a spa. Okay, well, 482 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: context clues. It sounds like it's any rainforest possibly type biome. 483 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: Maybe mm hmmm like a toucan. No, okay, m hmm okay, 484 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: that is my pick though, yes can. Well it's a 485 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: very very interesting guess um that I'm not being I'm 486 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: not being descending. But congratulations to chat Joey, Pete, and 487 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: Mary Andy who all correctly guessed the club winged mannequin. So, Maggie, 488 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: you're not so hard. You got the right general class. 489 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: You get it's a bird, so you're not too far off. 490 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: But no, this is not a two can. It is 491 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: the club winged mannequins. So, um, it is much smaller 492 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: than a two can. It's actually a relatively small um 493 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: tropical bird. Uh. It has you So you did guess 494 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: correctly that it is in a tropical forest. It's not 495 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: necessarily a rainforest, but very similar. It's a cloud forest 496 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: of central and South America. And speaking of redheads today, 497 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: this little bird has at least the males have a 498 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: bright red head. And they actually are not using their 499 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: voice to make this sound. This sound is not coming 500 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: out of their little beaks at all. It is using 501 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: its feathers to make that little dude, what okay, you're 502 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: right knocking over the feathers while how would you think 503 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: a bird would make sound with their feathers, Maggie, Oh, 504 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. At one of there's some sort of 505 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: like water on their feathers or some sort of like 506 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: other elements on it to make that noise when rupped together, 507 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: like some kind of like percussive uh. And glands, some 508 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: glands the sound glands of the bird. Yeah, but it is, 509 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the confusion about it is legit because it 510 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: is so strange, uh that it would be able to 511 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: make this sound with its feathers and it it took 512 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: a while for biologists even figure out that this was 513 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: not a typical bird call from its syrinx the sort 514 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: of the voice box of the bird. It is it's 515 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: feathers being vibrated. So yeah, the club wing mannequin has 516 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: these modified flight feathers that feature ridges, and they have 517 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: another modified flight feather that is really stiff with this 518 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: curved tip, so it actually works like yeah, like a 519 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: like a washboard in a spoon. And they will shake 520 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: these feathers at a rate of a hundred times a second, 521 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: and that will produce that musical sound. They're shaking their 522 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: tail feathers. They really are, I mean, technically it's actually 523 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: their wing feathers, but you know, but yeah, it does it. 524 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: Actually it kind of looks like it's shaking its tail 525 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: feathers because to do this, it will actually kind of 526 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: stick its butt up and then put its wings like 527 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: kind of up behind itself. It's very cute and yeah, 528 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: so it. But the weird thing is that in order 529 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: to withstand such vigorous shaking, the mannequin has actually evolved 530 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: solid bones. So, as you may know, birds actually have 531 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: um hollow bones. Most birds that can achieve flight have 532 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: hollow hollow bones um to allow them to be light 533 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: enough to be aerodynamic. But the mannequin how to get 534 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: rid of those hollow bones otherwise when it shakes its 535 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: wings like a little Morocca and break its bones. So 536 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: it actually is a really bad flyer, really clumsy and not. 537 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: It has traded in its ability to fly gracefully for 538 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: the ability to be a little a little little Morocca 539 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: fair trade. I mean that that's pretty impressive. It is, 540 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: and it's enough to impress the late club wing mannequins, 541 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: and that is really all that matters. As long as 542 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: they can survive predation and feed themselves. If they can 543 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: impress the ladies enough, that means they will successfully reproduce, 544 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: and this becomes a successful case of sexual selection. It's 545 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: like me, I'm a I'm a bad driver, you know, 546 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: but but he traded that in for my personality. And exactly, 547 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: you can't have both. You can't be a good driver 548 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: and I have a personality. They are mutually explusive anyone. Yeah, 549 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: So these birds are one of the only known non 550 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: insects to use stridulation to produce sound like this. There 551 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 1: are other non insects that do this, but yeah, they 552 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: are rare insects. Often we'll do this like crickets. There 553 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: are katie DIDs, um to kada's. A lot of insects 554 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 1: use strigulation, but in terms of non in sect animals, 555 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: vertebrates very rare. So this is a special, special bird. 556 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 1: So now onto this week's mystery animal. Sound, Uh, this 557 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: is that animal who's squawking. Guess who's spoken. So this 558 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: week's hint is this is another redhead with legs that 559 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: go all the way up. So Maggie, what do you think? Wow? 560 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean that could be anything from like Kasmanian devil 561 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: to an older monkey in my mind. Uh wow, Actually 562 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: maybe some sort of bear, maybe like a sun bear. 563 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: They're kind of reddish. M hmm, all right, that's gonna 564 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: be gonna go with that bad guess. Well, uh, you 565 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: could be right or you could be totally wrong, but 566 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: you will find out next week on the show next Wednesday. Uh. 567 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: I love to leave a good cliffhanger. But Maggie, thank 568 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: you so much for joining me today. Where can that 569 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: people find you? This was so much fun. Thank you 570 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: for asking me on this very austaciousous. I love that 571 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: new word. Yes, you know what animal? New animals are 572 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: invented all the time. Might as well invent some new 573 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: words while right? Uh yeah, If you wanna see me 574 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: inventing other new words, you can follow me on Twitter, 575 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: which is just my name Maggie may fish um and yeah, 576 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: also over on YouTube. I do some fun film analyzes 577 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 1: and we just did one on twin Peaks. Were talking 578 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: all about red lighting, so speaking of red hoods and 579 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: don't they have like a red room in that? Yeah? 580 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: These do, yes, yeah, very thematically linked. We actually do that. 581 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: We do have a couple episodes um that cover animal documentaries, 582 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: so well I'm gonna check those out. Let's get off 583 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: this ding pod so I can check those out right now. 584 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: Highly recommend Maggie's channel. Do check that out. And if 585 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: you think you know the answer to this week's mystery 586 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: animal sound, you can write to the podcast at Creature 587 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: Feature Pod at gmail dot com. 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