1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. Welcome to Stephane Never 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: told You Protection of iHeartRadio, and welcome to episode seven 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 1: of our nine possibly ten part mini series on the 4 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Last of Us, the HBO Max series, which is not 5 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: a sponsor. And thanks to everyone who keeps talking about 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: to the other official podcast. I appreciate it, but man, 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: every time, is it a little dent my self? Team? No, 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: not really, I do love hearing about it. We are 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: not the official podcast, just fans. This is a love letter. 10 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: It really is to the game and show from Annie 11 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Love Annie, Yes with Samantha supports yes with me as 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: a po like she's mad at you, That's what I'm 13 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: telling them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Samantha it has been 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: lovely this whole time and has hosted our watch parties. 15 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: This one was a cheese event. It was very nice good. 16 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I ate all that garlic cheese, so much cheese. 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I ate the garlic, man, you know those? Yeah? Yes, 18 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I loved it. Um well this Yes, we'll have spoilers 19 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: for the most reason episode episode seven I left Behind 20 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: and everything that came before. Samantha is my guardian and 21 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: hopefully not spoiling anything else. I feel like we've done 22 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good job. But it has been difficult. Um, yeah, 23 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: she has too much knowledge I do, and I forget. 24 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: I forget sometimes, but I feel I feel like we've 25 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: done it pretty good. So yeah, you should be fine. 26 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: And yes, this is a temporary thing. We're releasing on 27 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Saturdays the week after the most recent episode and it 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: is replacing my Happy Hours, but we will return to 29 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: regular programming maybe. I think at some point this one 30 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: content morning for I guess general sadness, violence, trauma, trauma. Yeah, 31 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: I guess alcohol use potentially, especially among younger people. But suicide, 32 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: it's suicide. Yeah, So yes, this is based on the DLC, 33 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: the downloadable content called Left Behind, which I will talk 34 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: about more briefly in a second. But if you want 35 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: to know more about that, you can see our recent 36 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: Fictional Women episode on Riley for more information on her 37 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: portrayal on the games and comics, which is pretty much 38 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: the same but a lot more backstory, I would say 39 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: in that if you want it, you can also see 40 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: our Happy Hour on the remake that we did kind 41 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: of recently, the Last of Us Part one remake, and 42 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: I'll talk about why that matters in a second. But 43 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: in the meantime, Samantha, do you want to do your 44 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: wonderful recap? Yes, I can do this all right. So 45 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: we are opening scene of seeing bloody I guess tracks, 46 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: essentially going into an abandoned home and where we go 47 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: to all the way down to the basement and realize 48 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: that Joel is lying there still at this time alive 49 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: but barely, and then in a lot of pain bleeding out. 50 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: For some odd reason, Ellie keeps trying to make him 51 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: press against his own wounds like he's not bleeding out, 52 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: but okay, sure, why not. At this point they go 53 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: back and forth about how to do this. He finally 54 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: grabs her and says, you've got to go back. You 55 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: gotta go north and find Tommy. You gotta leave, save yourself. 56 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: She's like, no, I don't want to, and then he 57 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: has a strength to push her back, so I'm sure 58 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: that gushed out more blood there that is, and she 59 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: kind of looks at him in shock and looks back up, 60 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: and then she runs up the door, hand on the 61 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: door to get out, and then we go to flashback. 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: We're in a flashback where she is in the QZ 63 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: listening to her Sony Walkman, which apparently was a thing 64 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: in the comics, because if you have listened to that 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: episode you will find this out as I did. And 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: she is running around in the gym. A girl comes 67 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: and bullies her and says, you know, oh, your protector's 68 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: not here, what are you going to do about it? 69 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: They end up fighting. She ends up getting that girl 70 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: enough injury that that girl has to have seventeen stitches 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: while you know, Ellie has a black guy. She sits 72 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: in front of an officer who pretty much tells her, Hey, 73 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to make you an officer. You're so good 74 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: at this. We want you to live the life, because 75 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: apparently it's not. There's like a hierarchy and if you're 76 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: an officer, you get all the good things while everybody 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: else doesn't get the good things. And so she's like, okay, 78 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: I choose to be an officer. Flashed forward to her 79 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: going to her room where she's in the Stark room 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: with all of her posters. In her room, she pulls 81 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 1: out a book. It turns out to be the first 82 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: pun book and Annie does not have this copy, and 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: it's a shame, and I'm disappointed in you just a 84 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: little bit yeah, but it's okay. But it's okay. We 85 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: turned to look that the roommate is not there. Her 86 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: side of the room is completely empty. We have some 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: moments of ahasad and then she goes to sleep. Next 88 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: thing we know, someone's crawling through the window. Who could 89 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: it be? And she tries to cover Ellie's mouth. Ellie 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: like jumps up, pushes her, kicks her, and ready to 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: stab her. Turns out it's Riley, the roommate that has left, 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: and she's been gone for three weeks and for all 93 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: that Ellie knew was that she was dead at this point, 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: but she's not. She's back, and she's like, where the 95 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: hell did you come from? Where have you been? A 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: little argument ensues because you know, they argue apparently all 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: the time, and then it turns out Riley has joined 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the Fireflies, which Ellie thinks as a joke until Riley 99 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: shows off her handgun and she's like, oh my god, 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: you really have a little smaller argument ensues because you know, 101 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: Ellie's at now right now, like she's not pro pro fedra, 102 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: but she is more towards Fedra than fireflies. So we 103 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: have a moment or in exchange and all of these arguing. 104 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: Riley's like, if you will shut up, I've got a 105 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: surprise for you. Come with me, throws pants on, makes 106 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Riley turn around to put pants on, where I was like, 107 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: this is so weird. Why do you always do this? 108 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: She's like to turn around. They get all their stuff, 109 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: they go down the stairs. They're like, you know, the 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: Federal don't know anything. And then as they're about to 111 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: go exit, a feder Chuck comes by. She's like, Ellie's like, 112 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: huh see there, they don't know anything. Huh whatever. So 113 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: they continue on. They escape through a building which is 114 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: so many stairs, and she does the things that many 115 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: of my friends do that I'm very upset about. When 116 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: they're like, it's not far and then like twenty minutes later, 117 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: you're like, where the hell am I? You're like, you 118 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: lie to me. But they finally go up all the stairs, 119 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: come up to oh, a body, and they go to 120 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: investigate a dead body. They have a conversation about seeing 121 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: dead bodies before. It turned out that Riley had because 122 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: of her parents. There, we find that the dude has 123 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: a very expensive bottle of whiskey that he had to 124 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: exchange a lot of cards I'm guessing that's the currency. 125 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: And then this assumption is that he had taken pills 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: and drank that did this on purpose, so it was 127 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: now deceased. During this time, he falls to the floors. 128 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: Very scary. It was a jump scary, y'all. We all 129 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: well went what we all had a moment. They grabbed 130 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: the whiskey, which is still fine. These young underage drinking 131 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: is a no no, but they drank. They're like, okay, 132 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: let's move on. So they move on and they come 133 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: to the roof and they have more conversations about how 134 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: she got discovered. Turns out Marlene is mentioned at this 135 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: point and she was impressed with how Riley was able 136 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: to sneak around in the in the show, and so 137 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: she was then asked to join. Then they go hopping 138 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: across roofs, which was like I would die because I 139 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: would fall down off every immediately. Yeah, Like then none 140 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: of them like these kids are courageous because I'm like 141 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I would have died. It would have been over. As 142 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: they continue on, they finally make it to their place, 143 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: which is the mall, which apparently this whole area was 144 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be quarantine and shut off, but it's not. 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, there's all these infected, but like, 146 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: really is there though? M And turns out that the 147 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: FEDRA had turned power on over there because to extend 148 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: their territories for more people to have apartments and such, 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: so this area has power. What ruh? So they go 150 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: into the area, they don't know where they're at, and 151 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: then Riley's like, shut up, I got a surprise for 152 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: you if you'll go this way, go take a right, 153 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: go through the door. Stand there, tell me when you 154 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: get there. All this zus. Finally Ellie's like, I'm here 155 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: and then she turns the lights on and oh my god, 156 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: it's the mall. Yeah, it's them all. And she's like, 157 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, we're at them all. Where's the infected? 158 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: All these things won't they see? And apparently they're bunk 159 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: and a bunk are essentially so they can't see underground. 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I guess they're low enough that no one can catch 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: the lights. So she says, I have all these wonders 162 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: for you, and we're going to call them the Five Wonders. 163 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: It took me a minute. I had to re like 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: remember where all these were, and we're gonna start off 165 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: with the electric stairs or the escalators, which is a 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: cute little scene of her trying to figure out what 167 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: they do and going She's like, I'm not moving, look 168 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: at me as she goes up a down escalator and 169 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: then they have fun. She almost does die because he 170 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: almost fell off of them, and that's the thing. So 171 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: they finally come to that and she's like, that's fine, yep, 172 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: I've got to four other wonders. Let's go so they 173 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: can walk down. They talk about how it was looted 174 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: at one point in time, um, and of course the 175 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: most important things were taken first and the unimportant things 176 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: like lingerie from Victoria's secrets. There's a lot of product 177 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: placement here, y'all. A lot of product placement, including a 178 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: spirit which does that? Is that still around store? I 179 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: would have been in like two thousand and three, right, 180 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: which yes, so I guess so I guess you're right. 181 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: There was targeting game spot which I think is still there. 182 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: So there's no b Dalton, Oh were there? Okay? Okay, 183 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: So we have a cute little scene about lingerie and 184 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: having lawhere and being laughing about that because there was 185 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: a song which really uncomfortable to me as well, it's 186 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: like why um. But then the whole time we're seeing 187 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: l a kind of trying to premp herself and like 188 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: cute because she had planned all these things, and it's like, 189 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: are we on a date? What? And she's like, close 190 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: your eyes and they hold hands and she takes her 191 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: to the next part, the carousel, which they have a 192 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: cute moment and have a conversation, and then they get 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: a little deeper into the conversation. They're not happy about it, 194 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: like things are happening about the Firefli's conversation, q Z 195 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: trying to be an officer, all these things, what are 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: you doing? Why are you doing this? But still sweet. 197 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: They move on to the next thing, which is the 198 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: photo booth, and she has a five dollar bill, which 199 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: is worthless because we see money everywhere. They take very 200 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: faded pictures with several different poses, which you have said 201 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: in our previous episode that you can play yeah these 202 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: things and all the poses are actually in the game. 203 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: So we have that moment and they come out and 204 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: they go to the next big thing, which is the 205 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: arcade Holy and she's come prepared. She's been working on 206 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: hours to break the machines so they can play. They 207 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: play their favorite game, Mortal Combat. It's very loud, he's 208 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: getting loud. They're having fun, and then they go down 209 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: to where she has a present for her, and they 210 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: come down. They find out that that's where Riley has 211 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: been sleeping. She's kind of hanging out there. That's where 212 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Riley gives Ellie her the second pun Book ye volume two, 213 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: Volume two, oh, and so they start reading that off 214 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. They don't understand one of them because 215 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: they have shot yeah, screen shows like, what's that real funny? 216 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: And then they find that there was bombs there, that 217 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: there's homemade explosives. Riley has been stationed there, and they 218 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: get into another big argument about you know, blowing up people. 219 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Would you do this to me? This is you know, terrorism, 220 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: all these things, talking about how bad these things could be. 221 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Why would you do this? Blah blah blah. So she's 222 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: about to leave, so she finally mets that this is 223 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: the last time she's going to see her. They're not 224 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: going to see each other because she's been reassigned to Atlanta, 225 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: and so she wanted to do this big thing for 226 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: her and she's asked if Ellie could go, but they 227 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: said no, So all this heartbreak is happening. This was 228 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: the big goodbye. Ellie's mad, and she's like, you know what, 229 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: go fine, and she leaves, and then of course she 230 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: comes back. They have a more conversation. She's like, I 231 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: do have one more surprise for you. She leaves, but 232 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: we do see a second shot of one of the 233 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: I guess the communicator zombies, which are they're stuck to 234 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: the wall, but I guess they're they're able to communicate 235 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: to other zombies to let them know that there are 236 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: people here. Oh my god, they're here. So that's what 237 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: we see. So we're all on the edge of our 238 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: seats thinking, oh, they're coming, They're coming. But then we 239 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: also hear all of a sudden screaming woman and Ellie, 240 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: here's a screaming woman. She runs screaming Riley Riley, and 241 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: she comes to a halloween store with one of those 242 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: prop graveyards, and Riley says, surprise, this is your finale. 243 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I say this for last because I need you would 244 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: love it. They have another big conversation about, you know, 245 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: her leaving and whether or not she was sad and 246 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: mad and why you would do this, and then they 247 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of make up when she sees the store and 248 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: everybody like whatever, and turned out Riley had taste stolen 249 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: her walkman gotten. She's like, you have bad taste the 250 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: music and puts on the Edda James, I got you 251 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: babe into the PA system and they put on Halloween masks, 252 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: get on top of the glass counter and start dancing, 253 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: at which time I'm like, they're going to fall and die, 254 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: but they didn't. It's okay, just in my head. They 255 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: have the best time and they're having a good moment. 256 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: And she takes the head off and she's like the 257 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: mask off and she's like, don't go, and Riley says okay, 258 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: and then Ellie kisses Riley and it's a sweet moment 259 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: and Ellie goes, I'm sorry, and Riley's like what for? 260 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: And they both smiled really big, and she's like, what 261 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: do we do now? She's like, I don't know, And 262 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: essentially they're going to talk about like staying together. It's 263 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: really beautiful moment, and then we hear some noises. We 264 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: hear those noises and then we find one clicker who 265 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: is very damn fast, goes after both of them, One 266 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: shoots at them, one throws things at them, they do 267 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: knife or and all these things. They finally kill them, 268 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: and then we see Riley looking at Ellie and Ellie 269 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: going holy, that was amazing, Like I really excited for 270 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: that moment until she looks down to where Riley is 271 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: looking down and sees that she's been bitten on the 272 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: arm and she has a panic attack. He's like, no, no, no, no. 273 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: And then we look up at Riley and realize that 274 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: Riley has been bitten on the hand. So both of 275 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: them are like oh. And then Ellie loses it and 276 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: start busting at all the glass, screaming angry at all 277 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: these things, knowing that this is the end. And you 278 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: see Riley just sitting against the counter, and then Ellie 279 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: comes over his hits and she's like, oh my god, 280 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do? At this point, Riley says, 281 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, we have we have these options. We can 282 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: kill ourselves, be we could just be real poetic and 283 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: and and then she was like, well, what's the third option. 284 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: She's like, there's not one. So but I've choose to 285 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: take different people, take different times. I've seen it. It 286 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: could be two hours, it could be two days, and 287 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: I choose to make the best of that time. So essentially, 288 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: I think and I think it'd be poetic to lose 289 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: our minds together a quote unquote, and you see them 290 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: just holding in each other. Coming back to the current 291 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: moment where Ellie was about to walk out the basement, 292 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: she looks down, runs out the door to look for supplies, 293 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: scrambles everywhere, looks for things. One comes back and has 294 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: a needle and thread essentially and is sewing him up. 295 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: She gives a nod, he nods back, and we see 296 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: them sewing each other up, and it was super gross. 297 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: They hold each other's hand and still super gross. Oh yeah, 298 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: oh thanks again. It's not always excellent recap this. This 299 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: episode has a lot to talk about it. I just 300 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: recommended I think we haven't seen you should watch it. 301 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: But whatever, it does have a lot of Easter eggs, 302 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: I will say, especially like in Ellie's room and then 303 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: things in them all. They have a lot of call forwards, 304 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: which is what I'm calling them. It's not a callback, 305 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: it's call forward to what's to come. So that's very fun. 306 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: And in the like post show thing, they talk about 307 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: how this is you know, what what was it like 308 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: to be a kid in this world? And what was 309 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: it like to skip school. So before we get into it, 310 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: just very quickly again cere recent episode we did on 311 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: Riley for Fictional Women around the World for more information. 312 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: But this episode is based on the DLC Left Behind 313 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: plus the comic book American Dreams. DLC stands for downloadable content, 314 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: So basically the game came out in twenty thirteen on 315 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. In twenty four team they released this thing 316 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: that you could download that was like, i'd say, two 317 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: hour gameplay that you could add on and it was 318 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: more to the story. And I know the next day 319 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: I told you, Samantha, but I was kind of laughing 320 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: because a lot of people were arguing about where this 321 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: came from. They were like, what, what was this? This 322 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: wasn't in there? Yes it was. It certainly was more 323 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: on that in a second two. I do want to 324 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: say the game mechanics of it are very different. As 325 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: I said in that Riley episode, it is interspersed, it's different. 326 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: The main difference I would say is that it's interspersed 327 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: with Ellie add an abandoned mall, trying to find medical 328 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: supplies to save Joel. It also kind of shows you 329 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: how she got him to that house, and she's having 330 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: these flashbacks to what happened with Riley interspersed between that. 331 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 1: But the game mechanics, as I said in that Riley episode, 332 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: are very different. They're very sweet, Like you're literally playing 333 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: you have like a water gun fights, and you choose 334 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: which pose you want to do in the photo booth, 335 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: and you are reading puns to each other and you 336 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: can do that at kind of any time until you 337 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: run out of puns, which I definitely did so so 338 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a very sweet thing. But over 339 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: the whole of it is you know how it is, 340 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: So there's the anxiety throughout. So I think the way 341 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: they did that in this, even though, like if you've 342 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: been paying attention they've mentioned Riley several times already, is 343 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: that when they show you the zombie in the basement 344 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: against the wall, is when you're like, oh gosh, this 345 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: is not good. This is not going to end well. 346 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: So that kind of that anxiety hanging over. If you 347 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: want more of Riley's backstory, the comic The Last of 348 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Us American Dreams has a lot of it. As I said, 349 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: there was a big backlash to this when it came out, 350 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: so it was. That was one of the reasons I 351 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: kind of chuckled to myself even though it's not really 352 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: really funny the next day when people were arguing about, 353 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: like where did this come from? Because I think a 354 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: lot of those people would be like the so called 355 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: fans who were just so mad at that they didn't 356 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: even play it or either ignored it. But people were mad. 357 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: People were med. Not everybody, but there was a pretty loud, 358 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: small group of people, but very loud who were angry 359 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, let's talk about Riley, who this 360 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: was kind of her big story. She has been mentioned 361 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: several times in the show, in the first episode, second one, 362 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: third one, I think the sixth one. Arguably, I don't 363 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: think like directly, but if you know who Ellie's talking about, 364 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, okay, yeah, she is somebody who 365 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: can stand up to ell As you said, they argue 366 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: a lot, and like that scene where she's like telling 367 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: Elliot what to do, like what the stairs taker right 368 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: and out the door and tell me when you're there. 369 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: Like very strong personality, but it's it's very sweet. It's 370 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: like the game is very sweet, and this was very 371 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: sweet because it's sort of a innocent young love, like 372 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: the mall date, you know. Yeah, And so when you 373 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: see especially as you know, as who I don't know, 374 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: I grew up with that. Ye. When you see like 375 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Ellie's face when the lights come on, she's like tier 376 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: yead because they've never seen anything like that. She had 377 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. Um and Riley having this 378 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: like date planned even though it's like not really a date, 379 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: but it's pretty much a date. Like I'm going to 380 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: show you like the best parts of the mall and 381 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: I've planned it out. Um. I love that part with 382 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Ellie's like you planned things and rather it's like it's 383 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: just very sweet. It's very sweet. Like their first kiss 384 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: is very very sweet, like you can tell it's kind 385 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: of their first kiss a sort of clumsy. And then 386 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: they laugh really loud, all really hard. It's just really adorable. 387 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: And then when they're like playing Mortal Kombat and they 388 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: like or just exuberant at the chance to do this 389 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: which they probably had just you know, read about magazines 390 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: and scene had never done. And there were so many 391 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: instances of that in this of like you know, Ellie's 392 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: reaction to the Escalatorum. And then again, yes, I think 393 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: I've said this in a couple episodes ago, but their 394 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: reaction to the Lingerie where they're kind of like, what 395 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: were people up to? What is this? And then I 396 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: mentioned also there's a poster for this, like I think 397 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: it's called that Dawn of the Wolf, which is definitely 398 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: a Twilight rifle right right that it was coming out 399 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: and Joel in there's a lot of conversations in the 400 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: game that you can miss. They're very easy to miss, 401 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: and one of the ones you can have is where 402 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: Ellie looks at that poster and it's kind of like 403 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: what is this? Sential says, Oh, my daughter loved it. 404 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: I took her to see it and all this stuff, 405 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: So that's sort of another connection there. I did notice 406 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: one of my multiple rewatches that went in kind of 407 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: like zooming into the zombie. Oh they infected in the basement. 408 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: It's like an American girl doll store or something. Oh, 409 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: it's not I don't think it's that, but it's essentially that, okay, 410 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: And it says every story has the beginning over the 411 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: cross of it, like, oh, yep, okay, then then I do. 412 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: I didn't want to say I have the I didn't 413 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: buy this, but it came with something else I bought 414 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: that was last of us related, But I have the 415 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: polaroid of Ellie and Riley on my bridge. Very very cute. 416 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: One thing that they did differently that I don't know 417 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: that I necessarily like get better in the game, but 418 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: it's a very cool thing in the game. And it's 419 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: a big difference is in the arcade because, as I 420 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: said in that Riley episode, Warner Brothers owns the rights 421 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: to Mortal Kombat, so they played Mortal Kombat. But in 422 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: the game, it's this game called Turn the Turning, and 423 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: when they get to the arcade, it doesn't work, and 424 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: Ellie is so disappointed, and Riley tells her like close 425 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: your eyes, and it's a very beautiful sequence of Riley 426 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: just describing like he chees his knives, what are you 427 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna do? And Ellie's like kick like it. You can 428 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: hear like the sounds in her head of what it 429 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: sounds like, and the the lights are kind of on 430 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: her on her face, and I think they're going to 431 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: do that. There's another sequence when they do that, so 432 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I think they're saving it for that, but I do 433 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: I do love that part in the lighting. I thought 434 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the whole set was really cool, and like the lighting up, 435 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: it was really really cool. The masks that they wear, 436 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: the Halloween masks are exactly from the game. Exactly. Yeah, yes, 437 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: and this is actually Ellie hates Halloween stuff, by the way, 438 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: because of this, because she associates it with this and 439 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: you do encounter it in the games a lot, because 440 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: you know, Outbreakday was the end of September and so 441 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: they already had their Halloween stuff out, but she hates it. 442 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: But one of the other things I wanted to talk 443 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: about was this whole idea of goodbye, because you see 444 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: Ellie really not wanting Riley to leave, but sort of 445 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: struggling with like, well, what how do I get her 446 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: to stay? Or should I let her go? Or what 447 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: does she want? And a lot of internal thoughts. There's 448 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: one scene on the carousel that I think is super 449 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: cute where you could tell she like almost reached out 450 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: to hold her hand and then didn't when she's trying 451 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: to hold her there, and so she that's she kind 452 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: of has this fight like, oh, you don't care about anything, 453 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: like leave whatever, I don't care I'm leaving, and then 454 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: she says like I'm your best friend, if this is 455 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: what you want, I'm gonna let you do it. I 456 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: let you go. You should go, and then has this 457 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: moment after they're dancing of like no, please stay, I'm 458 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: asking you to stay, and Riley says yes, and then 459 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: they say like, oh, we'll figure it out together what 460 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: it is, and it kind of goes back to her 461 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: fear of being alone, as she said. But one thing 462 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: I also wanted to mention, as I've told Samith, I've 463 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: recently learned in the last episode, they were watching this 464 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: movie right and we didn't know what it was. We 465 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: just really whatever. But it's called a Goodbye Girl, and 466 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: she leaves before the ending. And I haven't seen The 467 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: Goodbye Girl, but basically the plot is Richard Dreyfus's character 468 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: comes into the lives of this woman and her daughter, 469 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: and the woman has had a lot of men come 470 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: and go in her life, and so the girl, the 471 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: Goodbye Girl, has really gotten used to people not staying 472 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: around and is expecting this guy to leave all the time. 473 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: And she in the end sort of learns like that 474 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: goodbye doesn't mean that's the end, or that that that's 475 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be this horrible thing, and she 476 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: leaves before she sees the ending of it, so that 477 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that was very purposeful. And this is 478 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: one of the times where you kind of see Ellie 479 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: trying to say goodbye but then having that fear of 480 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: being alone. And then also this is like her first crush, 481 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: like this is the one person she has. She's very isolated, 482 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to let this person go, and 483 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: she asked her to stay, and Riley says yes, and 484 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: then of course, because it's the last of us, you can't, 485 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: you can't. They both get bitten, and then we get 486 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: to see the difference between how Ellie reacts, which, in 487 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: the words of Craignising, the showrunner, is very dark and 488 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: violent and angry, versus how Riley reacts. And he says 489 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: that's because you know, Riley has experienced loss and Ellie 490 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: hasn't at this point, or at least not to a 491 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: degree where she can really remember. And so because Riley, 492 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, she talked about like what happened with her 493 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: parents and this feeling of belonging, wanting that back, and 494 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: then you know, you see them talk it through and 495 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: like every second counts and if I can be with you, 496 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: I want to be with you as long as I 497 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: can be, because if you think about it, that was 498 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: a big question people had when we knew we had 499 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: like Riley's name, we knew they got bitten at the 500 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: same time in the first game, but they were like, well, 501 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: so why didn't they die or like why what? How 502 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: would this come about? Right? And so the answer is 503 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: that they have this like pact where we're going to 504 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: stay together as long as possible, but they both thought 505 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: they were going to die, like when they would have 506 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: no reason not to think that. And I guess that's 507 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: another thing where I almost asked you about this before, 508 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: but ap barely. Some people are arguing about whether or 509 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: not Riley dies. Um, really she did? Yeah, yeah, well 510 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: she says it. Yes, she said it in the first episode. Yeah, 511 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: the very first episode. Yes. But I guess some people 512 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 1: can't pick up on it, but I I know. I 513 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: was I was like literally like, well now do I 514 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: what do I do? But no, she dies, She's dead? 515 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: She did? Like sorry he real did they said it 516 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: in the first episode. I'm pretty sure they like when 517 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: she in six when Ellie's like, I've lost people too, 518 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: that's she was talking about Riley, right, and Riley does 519 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: hang over all of the show, so she's not that's 520 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: not the end of her, but it is certainly, like 521 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: I said, that building of tension, because when you're playing it, 522 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: you know that that's how it ends. It was very 523 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 1: very moving. It was very very sad Samantha to get 524 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: us tissues, me and my friend Katie. I think it 525 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: was sadder than the game because in the game it's 526 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: less it's the same conversation, but they're more like tired, um, 527 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: They're kind of more like, well, here's what we do. 528 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: And it does cut away before you see them die, 529 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: which it didn't the show, but in the show it 530 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: was just kind of I think they've they've made it 531 00:29:46,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: more emotional. So Riley's death does hang over Elliott. It 532 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: has shaped her worldview. It is this traumatic event or 533 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: somebody she cared for, had this crush on, maybe loved 534 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: died and they thought they were going to die together 535 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: and they didn't. Because Ellie survives this whole thing, and 536 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: so she this is part of her survivor's guilt where 537 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: every time someone she loves dies, and even not even 538 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: someone she loves, every time somebody dies she has a 539 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: guilt about it because she didn't. So you see that 540 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: with Joel after she flashes back to what is going 541 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: on because she's opening door and she's thinking about leaving it. 542 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Then she's remembering what Riley did for her and how 543 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Riley stayed there and didn't let her die or kill herself, 544 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: held her hand, and so she's remembering all of that. 545 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: But it is like one of the biggest shaping events 546 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: for Ellie, something that she just just hangs over and like, 547 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: like I said, when he plays her, you look in 548 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: the backpack and she just has all of these like 549 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: she still has the Firefip London, she has the pun book, 550 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: she has all these things. And you know it hasn't 551 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: been that long at this point, like maybe a couple 552 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: of months, but you did want to shout out Storm 553 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: Reed who nailed that performance amazing. Was so good, Yes, 554 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: and like honestly like she made it her own, but 555 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: was exactly like the characterization in the game, so good. 556 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And she's already spoken out about like the review bombing 557 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: the response, and it's been like, I back up what 558 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Bella Ramsey said. If that's what you're worried about, you 559 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: need to straighten up your priorities. Yes, agree, Uh. Something 560 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: else I wanted to touch on briefly is I think, 561 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: and I'm going to have a lot of thoughts about 562 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: this the last episode that we do, but they are 563 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: they're definitely setting up fedro versus Fireflies in a way 564 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: that they didn't in the game, or at least not 565 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: as in depth because that was always there. But they've 566 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: they've really built it up, and that's all I'll say. 567 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: And also, I did I think they had that kind 568 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,959 Speaker 1: of chilling comparison to Kansas City when Riley's like, when 569 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: if we, you know, free this place and we take over, 570 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: it'd be so much better. And then we saw what 571 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: happened in Kansas City when that happened, and that that 572 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, that's not necessarily to say that would have 573 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: happened here, but it was kind of I think a 574 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: chilling pointed comparison. Something else I wanted to talk about, 575 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: and I'm going to talk about very briefly too because 576 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: no spoilers, but I will say I didn't mention this 577 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: in the last one, but Joels injury. He falls on 578 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: a pipe and get stamped through and it's a really 579 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: cool scene. Word I mean, it's very up saying, but 580 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: it's very cool where Ellie's like taking charge and having 581 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: to lead him out and he's kind of passing out, 582 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: so it's a different injury. Also, Joel's anxiety medication. I 583 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: didn't know this, but they added that into the remix, 584 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: so you can see it before the pandemic, before the outbreak. 585 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: It's on his bedside table, so I guess they kind 586 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: of did that as a nod as to what was coming. 587 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,239 Speaker 1: But there have been a lot of articles about it 588 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: about like, oh, this is exactly like that's how anxiety 589 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: feels to me, of kind of like your heart stopping, 590 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: it hit suddenly whenever, and all this stuff. So that's interesting. 591 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: As I mentioned in a recent Daddy episode, there's also 592 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: been a lot of articles about single parent based on 593 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: this and something we'll have to come back to that. 594 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of stuff written lately about 595 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: Bella Ramsay's comments about chess binding, because I think she 596 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: said she spent ninety percent of this with chess binding filming, 597 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: and she was talking about like how you needed you 598 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: that safely and all that stuff. But there's been a 599 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: lot of conversation about that. Interesting, yes, so what is 600 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: to come And honestly, this one's I'm no spoilers here, 601 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: even if you've seen the trailer, I want to tell 602 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: you scary stuff is coming. I think it's the scariest 603 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: part of the game, but that's up for interpretation as 604 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: always and debates. I was wondering if they're gonna put 605 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: the infamous rabbit scene in there, and I don't think 606 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: they are. I don't think they are. We were waiting. 607 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 1: I don't think they can. I've thought about it, of course. 608 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: Well technically I'm trying to figure out how they would 609 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: do it. Everyone who doesn't know it's like, what are 610 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: you talking about? This as an insight? Yes? Between us? 611 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: Uh not y'all who have not seen what's going on. 612 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they still have time. It's 613 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: technically we don't know how Joel is doing and they're 614 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: going to be in that uh no, I mean stuck 615 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: for a while. I agree, but I don't know. I've 616 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: just I'm not sure how they pull it off with 617 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: a fantasy. But oh, I see, I see what you're saying. Now, Okay, okay, okay, 618 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: like strategically on no, yeah, okay, okay. If they can 619 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: do it, they did it. Oh man, I can't wait 620 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: to talk about it. Everyone's like, what is it going on? Um, 621 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: there are only two episodes left? Can you believe it? Who? 622 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: I hope it's always that here enjoying this whether you 623 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: have seen the show or not, whether you've played the 624 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: game or not. And yeah, we love hearing your thoughts 625 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: about it. I am excited for the next couple of episodes. 626 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: You can contact us at step Media, mom Stuff at 627 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia dot com. That is our email. 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