1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. You know, attention 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: to detail is critical when you own your own business, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: so use legal zoom dot com for the legal details. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Now their network of independent attorneys licensed in forty eight states. Well, 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: they know local laws and can provide answers to your 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: legal questions. Legal zoom dot com is not a law firm, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: so you won't pay by the hour. Just use Hannity 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: one when you check out and save even more legal 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: zoom dot com. All right, Welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. That, 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: of course, is not the voice of Sean Hannity. Your 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: friend Dan Bongino. Good to be back at the Bongino 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter for comments, criticisms, hate mail, glowing praise, whatever 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: you'd like to send my way, I'll take it, of course. 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: If you'd like to call the show, you all know 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: the number one nine four one seven three to six 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: eight nine for one. Sean broadcasting from the mighty w 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: D b Oh down here in the great state of Florida, 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: where the sun is always shining, and if it's not 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: just way twenty minut it, it'll come out. Had a 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: good workout this morning, Ready for the show, Ready to fire, 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: some bombs on the left. Right, now did my kettle bells? 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: A little bit of tabitha sprints? The blood's flowing. I 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: know I'd like the mm A stuff like when Sean 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: talks about it too. So that was I can't do 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: it anymore. Bad joints, a little bit of arthritis. But 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about today's show. I'm a contributing editor 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: over a conservative review dot com if you want to 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: check out, uh some of my work, and I am 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: a relief pitcher on talk radio, kind of like Dan 30 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: Quisenberry for all Yukansas City Royal fans remember him, remember 31 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: the use that submarine? You know, he was a relief 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: pitcher for the Royals back in the eighties and he 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: had a very unique throwing motion. It made him very 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: difficult to hit, even submarine, and I was always wondered 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: how his shoulder stood up over time. But all right, 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: getting back into my topic, because we don't we only 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: have three hours to get a lot of material across today. 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: So today I wrap up my workout and I'm I'm home. 39 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: I just want to kind of give you an idea 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: of how these topics brewing my head. So you see 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: how I came to this. So I come home, I'm 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: doing my post workout routine and I'm listening to the 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: radio and I hear this story about minimum wage protests happen. 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I think they were in California, a protest for you know, 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: McDonald's and and fast food workers for fifteen an hour wage. 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: And I'm listening and I'm like, there you go. That's 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about today in the show. Not 48 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: minimum wage. We're gonna talk about this narrative battle we're 49 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: having with the left. And how folks, if you think 50 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: we're fighting a fight with the left over results, you're 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: out of your mind. They don't care about results. And 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: the minimum wage news story I heard before I came 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: on the air today just reminded me of that that 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: there is nothing you can say to the far left. 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about all Democrats take a breath. I'm 56 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: talking about the far left, the organized far left that 57 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: is hijacked the Democratic Party. These people don't care about results, folks. 58 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: The human toll they will take on people to get 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: across the or control agenda. I'll get to this narrative 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: thing in a second is incalculable. They don't care the 61 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: minimum wage fight. Think about this, right, let's just walk 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: through this logically. Minimum How easy this is to understand. Now, 63 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: if you're a leftist and you've taken the facts vaccine, 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: you are immune to facts. I get it. This is 65 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: not for you. I'm talking about reasonable people who are 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: interested in discussing economic policies at work, economics policies that 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: don't and people who just want to make sense of 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: the world. Okay, let's just use it. Very simple analogy 69 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: I've used repeatedly on the air. Say you have a 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: lemonade stand. Right, let's make this super simple, and in 71 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: that lemonade stand you will make an additional ten dollars 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: an hour if you hire one more person to serve 73 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: people who want lemonade. Everybody tracking, even our liberal friends, 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: you got it. Hire one more person, make ten more 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: dollars an hour. What is that person's labor worth to you? Now? 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: The conservatives are probably laughing, going, of course, ten dollars 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: an hour, because there's very easy for us. I get 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: it that many liberals are perplexed right now. But the 79 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: labor is only worth ten dollars an hour, because if 80 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: you hire a person for fifteen dollars an hour. Who 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: is only worth to you in your lemonade stand ten 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: dollars an hour. News flash, folks, it's called arithmetic. You 83 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: lose five dollars an hour. Again, this is not complicated 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: to conservatives and libertarians and good Republicans. This is only 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: complicated to the left. Now the results of fifteen dollars 86 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: an hour to show you how the left is, folks. 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: They don't care about results. Get this out of your head. 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: They care about an agenda of control, to control your money, 89 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: control your health care, control your education, control YouTube, division, politics, 90 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: control YouTube, manipulating the language. The far left cares only 91 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: about control. Results don't matter. So I pulled up a 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: piece from Forbes about this fifteen dollar an hour minimum 93 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: wage in Seattle. And here's this. A woman in Seattle 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: actually works there. She says, Hey, I've had to let 95 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: one person go since April first, I've cut hours since 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: April first. I've taken them myself because I don't pay myself. 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: She says, I've also raised my prices a little bit. 98 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: But here's the kicker. But there's no other way to 99 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: do it. Again, this is not shocking to conservatives. This 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: is a business owner, by the way, That article was 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: by a Tim Warstole, and the title is and here 102 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: and here is as we said, the effect of Seattle's 103 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage unemployment shocking. No conservative 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: people are laying off workers in Seattle because they don't 105 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: have the money. Folks, the left does not care. You 106 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: can walk up to them and present them the human 107 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: examples of people who have lost their jobs in Seattle 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: due to this minimum wage hike, and they simply don't care. 109 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: They have been immunized to facts, and they have an 110 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: excuse for everything. They will make up some bizarre reason 111 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: why this. There was an order. It was a tsunami 112 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: seven years ago off the co of this country, and 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: it affected something, and it affected the l Nino and 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: the El Ninos. They it will be so torturous you'll 115 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: be like scratching your head, going huh what. That's their goal. 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: They want to confuse you. So I wrote a piece 117 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: over a Conservative review a little while ago, and I 118 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: posed an open challenge to my liberal friends. I use 119 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: that term loosely. I said, listen, if you really believe 120 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: in something, I'd like you to answer these three questions. 121 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: So I have a few questions, but to frame it. 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: I want to I want to just nail this down 123 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: for you. We are right now in this election coming up, 124 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: whether it's at the congressional level, state level, federal level, presidential, 125 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, we are not having the traditional 126 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: fights we always had. The traditional fights we had with 127 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: the JFK. Democrats were all right, you know, what's your money. 128 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Business is good, but maybe we can raise the tax 129 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: rates a little higher, was the Democrat position. Maybe the 130 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Republican position was, you know, let's hold fast. The position 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: on healthcare was it, of course, we should control our 132 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: own healthcare, but maybe we should have a safety net. 133 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: These are the old fights. These are not the fights 134 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: we're having now, folks. Those fights are over, they are 135 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: long gone. The fights were having now with the new 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: far left activist wing of the Democratic Party, which is 137 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: hijack the entire party. It's now the Pelosi, Sanders, Clinton 138 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: brand Obama now too. It was, well, of course they are, 139 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: they're not fighting those fights. They're legitimate position. What they 140 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: think is legitimate is a conflicting narrative from ours. Here's 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: our our narrative. What guide's conservatives and libertarians that government 142 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: is by nature a necessary evil, that we're going to 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: have some areas of mass consensus, the military accord system. 144 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: We're going to have to finance that through taxes. But 145 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: everything should be done to keep government with as smaller 146 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: footprint in our lives as possible, because the idea of 147 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: being ruled and we're all sinners by other sinners in 148 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: a government is an idea we don't like. So we 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: live under a constitutional republic and a limited government constitution 150 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: which limits what's the government, what the government could do 151 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: to us. And we will work together and do things 152 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: voluntarily to create a better tomorrow to our church, through 153 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: our neighborhood, through local community organizations, and we will provide 154 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: for some framework of national defense, provides for some network 155 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: of of of interstate roads, court system, in that kind 156 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: of stuff, areas of generally mass consensus. Right, that's the 157 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: conservative position. It's not complicated the idea that individual liberty matters, 158 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: that the guiding force in our lives should be God, family, community, 159 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: your neighborhood, your local neighborhood. And what I'll talk to 160 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: Zach Dasher about later, the idea of subsidiarity, that government 161 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: should be kept local, it should be kept accountable, and 162 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: that the federal government should have a light footprint in 163 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: our life. I'll make the case to you that forty 164 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: or fifty years ago, actually, you know, let's go back 165 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: pre fdr that that was probably some semblance of the 166 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: Democrat position to folks. Those days are over. The narratives 167 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: now between Democrats and Republicans can no longer coexist. It 168 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: is a bifurcated fork in the road. The narrative now 169 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: with the Democrats is we will work together because the 170 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: government will force you to do it. The government wants 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: your money. You didn't build that. Remember that one. On 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: the economy, the Obamacare, which of course is an absolute 173 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 1: epic disaster. The idea that the government should tell insurance 174 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: companies at what price they should sell their product to 175 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: who at what cost, The idea that the public education 176 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: system should be monopolized, The idea that the language should 177 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: be under control of the of the government, that they 178 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: should stigmatize certain h would look at the transgender fight 179 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: right now in North Carolina. The idea now is if 180 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: it's not done by government, it's not to be done 181 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: at all. That was never ever, that was never the 182 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: conflict of narratives in the past, but it is the 183 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: conflict now, so throughout the course of the show, I'm 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna have these three questions and I'm gonna prove my 185 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: point here that they don't care about results. They care 186 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: about control. Their narrative is control their narratives to take 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: control of your money. They don't care about the results 188 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: of the tax hikes. They don't care that it crushes 189 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: the economy they know it does. All they care about 190 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: is controlling the tax dolarge, not necessarily any kind of growth, prosperity, 191 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: anything like that. They don't care about your health care. 192 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: They care about control of your health care. They don't 193 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: care about your kids education, but they do care about 194 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: controlling it. And I'm gonna propose these three questions, and 195 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you how the standards always change because 196 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: it's not about results. Standards always change for the left, 197 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: that is, because it's not about results. To them, it 198 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: is about control. And when you wake up to that, 199 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: every single thing Obama does and the far left makes sense. 200 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: It's like David Harrowitz said a long time ago, when 201 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: you understand that the left are anti anti communists, it 202 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: all makes sense. You need to take control of your 203 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: family and assets. Now it sounds like common sense, but 204 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: too many the people procrastinate instead of getting in a 205 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: state plan before it's too late. 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Legal zoom dot com All right, 225 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back, to the Sean Haddy Show. Dan Bongino, contributing editor, 226 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: a Conservative review, talk radio pinch hitter, and by the way, 227 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: shameless plug of the um Teeth Order, author of the 228 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: new book The Fight, A Secret Service Agent That was 229 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: me A Secret Service Agents inside account of security failures 230 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: and the political Machine. If you want to pick it 231 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: up on Amazon, my inside take on why we keep 232 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: blowing it and Washington d C. Haven't been a candidate 233 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: and a secret service agent behind the eighteen acre fans 234 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: of the White House, So check it out if you want. 235 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone who picked it up. We made us a 236 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller. Thanks a lot. By the way, 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: during the break, I have kind of a double whammy 238 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: here with the whole hands situation. Obviously, with a last 239 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: name like Bongino, I'm Italian, you could probably tell I'm 240 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: actually Italian and Irish. My mother's Irish. But I used 241 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: to box as well, so I don't tell you that 242 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: because I want to be a tough guy. I just 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: tell you that because we tend to talk with our 244 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: hands Italians, and if you box, and I know our 245 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: boxer friends are listening out there, I know we have 246 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: them out there. In the m M A. Guys, you 247 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: always find yourself like shadow don't you shadow boxing? You're 248 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: practicing your jab, your cross, your hook, your combos. So 249 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: I talked with my hands number one and then number two. 250 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: I love the like shadow boxer. During the break, I'm 251 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: down here in the studio and people are walking by 252 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: and they're like, what is this guy doing? And like 253 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: headow boxing. I got a couple of looks. Is he okay? 254 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: And should be? Should be? Down? Nine? One one? I'm 255 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: all right. I just it's the hand thing. It's burning 256 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: off excess energy. All right with us now? From Breitbart London. 257 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: The editor in chief is our friend Rahim Kassam. Rahim, 258 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: how are you good? How are you very good? Happy 259 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: to have you on. I want to talk about your 260 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: story here at brightbart Let me give the headline out 261 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: report migrants committing disproportionately high crime in Germany shocking here. 262 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: While media and government focus on quote far right thought crimes, 263 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: give us a synopsis of what you're seeing. Well, you know, Dan, 264 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: when I first looked at this story as it was 265 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: briefed out by the German Interior Ministry, I sort of 266 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: shrugged my shoulders in the same way. Um, you sort 267 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: of verbally did just now, which is, you know, shocker 268 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: that Germany, which is welcomed in well over one and 269 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: a half million illegal migrants over the last year, has 270 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: experienced a rise in in in a lot of different 271 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: types of crime UM and we've been documenting those on 272 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: on our Migrant Crisis live blog on bright bart London, 273 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: focusing really on what's what's been going on in the 274 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: small town, small villages um and in fact, of course 275 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: the city's right across Germany. But the reason this was 276 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: so interesting, and I think the reason that a lot 277 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: of people were so angered by by what came out here, 278 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: is that when Thomas Domazier, the the Interior Minister, got 279 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: up to release these stats and speak about them, he 280 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: actually told people the top line of this press release 281 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: is that far right crimes are skyrocketing in Germany. Well, 282 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: when you dig into the figures, and let me tell 283 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: you something, for an Englishman like me, it's no fun 284 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: digging into a hundred and thirty five pages of stat 285 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: in German, right, Absolutely no fun in that. But once 286 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: you go through them line by line, and we took 287 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: a long time to do this. Luckily we have German 288 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: speakers on staff and we were able to go through 289 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: these figures. What it actually shows is that the far 290 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: right crimes that they're talking about skyrocketing are things like 291 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: propaganda crimes in inverted commas, things like sedition in inverted commas. 292 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: This is basically where people are holding up banners outside 293 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: of newly built asylum centers in small towns and villages 294 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: across Germany and saying, actually, we don't want this government policy, 295 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: and they're calling that a crime, a hate crime, sedition 296 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: a propaganda crime. That's how they're moving this statistic the 297 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: real let me let me interrupted. That's an important point 298 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: you just made. So what you're saying and correct me 299 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong here is you have a disproportionate amount 300 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: of actual I don't want to I don't know how 301 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: to call material physical crime like burglaries, muggings, larcense on 302 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: the street happening by people who have come to the 303 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: country recently in this migrant class, that are happening in 304 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: high numbers, and the German government, through maybe a left 305 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: leaning propaganda machine, is saying, oh, but there's a lot 306 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: of crime on the right too, because people are essentially 307 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: went protesting like it's a thought is that is that 308 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: where we're going with this, but this is disturbing. That 309 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: is that is exactly where we are at the moment, 310 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: and so that the American listeners can understand exactly how 311 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: devious this whole thing is. Don't forget what's going on 312 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: with Facebook in this country at the moment, well around 313 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: the world really at the moment. And it was Facebook 314 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: that Angela Merkele met with, and they agreed to make 315 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: sure that opposition to migration was not given as much airtime, 316 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: let's say, on Facebook, as as it was getting before that, 317 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, suppressing this protest. And you're right to point 318 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: out that actually, proportionately speaking, non German and illegal immigrants 319 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: in Germany account for maybe between ten and fifty percent 320 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: of the population. We don't really know the exact figure. 321 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: How could you when you have poorous borders, but they 322 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: it accounts for about that much. But when you look 323 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: at the total number of offenses cause in twenty fifteen 324 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: by non Germans and illegal migrants or asylum of homicides, 325 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: of sexual assaults, of robberies, seventy five of pick poppeting 326 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: and personatching, counterfeiting, smuggling, forgery, they all outstripped by a 327 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: long long way the proportion of non German migrants and 328 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: illegals in the country. And actually nobody is talking about this. Instead, 329 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: what they're talking about is the far right. Well right, 330 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: he you know, you kind of fit in nicely with 331 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: the narrative in the last hour I was talking about 332 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: how the left, the modern far left, I'm talking about globally, 333 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: not just within the United States, the modern far left 334 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: and all these groups associated with and they're fascinated with 335 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: this idea of control and but they have to control 336 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: the message. So where I want to go with this 337 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: is it seems to me that when they triage their responsibilities, 338 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: the German government, instead of just being honest and again 339 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong and saying listen, we did 340 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: this as unbenevolent gesture. Clearly there's been some negative fallout, 341 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: there's been an uptick and street crime. We're going to 342 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: try to fix this. That's not their priority. Their first priority, 343 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: from reading your piece at Bride part which is fantastic 344 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: by the way, um, their priority is propagandizing and lying 345 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: to the German people first to make sure that what 346 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: they think is really happening, what they see isn't really happening. 347 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: I mean, is this am I crazy? You know? I 348 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right, And you know, I don't want 349 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: to say I don't like to say it, but I 350 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: do feel like that is what is going on when 351 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: you have the Interior Minister standing up presenting a report 352 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, guys, check out all this new crime 353 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: stats we've got, and and he leads with, you know, 354 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: an increase in far right crimes. Well, let me tell 355 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you something. If you even dive into the far right 356 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: versus far left crimes that they do separate in this report, 357 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: you will actually see that again, while the far right 358 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: quote unquote crimes outstripped the number of far left crimes. Again, 359 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: what the left crimes are of physical assault, violence towards 360 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: police officers, um, you know, vandal vandalism. Well, the far 361 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: right crimes are are things like shouting, holding up a 362 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: sign that might insult someone. So again they've they've skewed 363 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: it even within the confines of the left versus right 364 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: political debate, you know, parking the migrant thing completely to 365 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: one side. And the question then arises, and I'm sure 366 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: listeners are asking why why is the German government doing this? 367 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: To its own people. And there are a lot of 368 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: different arguments that arise out of this. I said in 369 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: the middle of last year that Angelo Merkel was intent 370 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: on creating very, very a huge amount of low skilled, 371 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: low paid workers to shore up the German economy, to 372 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: shore up Germany's declining population rates. And sure enough, yesterday 373 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: the German government, and again with another announcement, says that 374 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: they are parking a hundred thousand low skilled jobs aside 375 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: for migrants. And there's a hundred thousand Germans immediately who 376 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: are going to be displaced from low skilled work just 377 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: because of this migeant crisis. Well, Raham, let me ask 378 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: you this, is there any significant popular backlash that that 379 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: would have an electoral consequence? I mean, I know miracles 380 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: having a lot of trouble, but you know, having at 381 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: Barack Obama has had a lot of trouble with Obamacare 382 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: the economy, and it hasn't seemed to affect him, you know, 383 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: as approval ratings fifty, which I can't find these fifty 384 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: people out of a hundred. But whatever, is there enough 385 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 1: popular backlash to have an electoral consequence that would make 386 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: a difference in the country's future politics? Well, firstly, let 387 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: me tell you something. I'm out in California at the moment, 388 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and I can find those fifty people all either you're 389 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: surrounded by a man. Yes, that's right, Um. Yes and 390 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: no is the answer to your question, which of course 391 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: is a frustrating answer. The fact is that the reason 392 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: that the German government are doing things like this report 393 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: and couching you know, far right in this way is 394 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: because they are trying to suppress what is a growing 395 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: force on the political center right in the groups like 396 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: Alternatives for Deutschland, which had three major election jories in 397 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: local elections just a couple of months ago, against Merkel's party, 398 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: against the Paguida movement, which is the anti is Isthmization 399 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: street movement, which is seeing twenty thousand people out on 400 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: the streets every week protesting against these policies. And what 401 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to do with this report, it's very clear 402 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: to me, is show that these people are beyond the pale. 403 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: They're responsible for most of the crime in Germany. Nobody 404 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: should be affiliated with them. If you are a moderate 405 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: center of the road boater, you should not be affiliated 406 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: with these people. And and for a lot of the 407 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: you know, differences between Europe and America. That's kind of 408 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: what you see going on here now as well. A 409 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: lot of you know, I see parallels and a lot 410 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: of the Trump stuff and see parallels with a lot 411 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: of the stuff in the United Kingdom with with what's 412 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: going on in Germany now as well. The only differences, 413 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: and it's a huge difference, is that Germany is very 414 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: very sensitive to the term far right for obvious reasons. 415 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: German balk when they think, and you know, maybe rightly so, 416 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: but they balk when they feel like there might be 417 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: something overtly nationalistic going on in side their country, and 418 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: so that is what the establishment is now playing too. 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: But I've got to tell you my prediction on this 420 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: whole thing is if Germany doesn't get a grip on 421 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: this stuff, you know, this is a failed state in 422 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty five years time. If if your first thing when 423 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: you walk into the country is that you walk in 424 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: and commit a crime because you're preaching that border and 425 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: you're told, hey, don't worry about it, don't worry about 426 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: the law, here's a house, we'll look after you. And 427 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: what sort of impact does that give, What sort of 428 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: signal does that give to these people well't we're seeing 429 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: it now, they're not caring about the law. Yeah, yeah, Rahan, 430 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for coming on today. I really appreciate 431 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: a very informative interview. Pleasure. Thanks a lot, folks. That 432 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: was Raheem because some his check out his article. It's 433 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: a bright bart It's called report Colon. There's another house 434 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: says they love cause migrants committing disproportionately high crime in 435 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: Germany while media and government focus on far right the 436 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: art crime is incredible. All right, welcome back to the 437 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity showed Dan Bargino, contributing editor over a conservative review, 438 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: filling it for Sean Today. Take it a little break. 439 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: I am at de Bongino on Twitter. If you want 440 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: to send me a tweet, make sure you follow Sean 441 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: as well at Sean Hannity. He has just a tad 442 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: bit or followers than I do. All right, this is 443 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a fascinating interview. I uh, I read this story. 444 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: Laurence sent it over and I was kind of floored 445 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: by it. It's a story from Fox News dot Com 446 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: by Holly McKay. It's May from May. Let me just 447 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: read the headline here. Iraqi, American lawyer facing prison for 448 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: immigration fraud, claims he was targeted for aiding Christians. So 449 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: on the line now, I Robert de Kalaida and Narrain 450 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: on WAYA. Robert is an attorney in Iraqi, American attorney 451 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: and Narrain is an Assyrian American Christian activist. So Robert, 452 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: give us a little background on the story and why 453 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: you think this is of interest to the audience based 454 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: on the targeting. You feel that you were targeted for 455 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: helping out Assyrian Christians in Iraq. Well, thank you very much. Uh. 456 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: First of all, don for having me on your show. 457 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Um. I'm an Assyrian Christian born in Iraq, 458 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: came to the United States at a young age, educated 459 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: here in the United States, and I served a large 460 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: part of the Christian community um seeking asylum. And it's 461 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: important to point out that I helped people remain in 462 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: the United States and not come to the United States. 463 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of a misperception as to 464 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: what I did. I didn't have people come in. In 465 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: other words, I wasn't involved in the refugee process. More 466 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: of the asylum process and the differences you seek asylum 467 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: when you're in the United States, you seek refugee status 468 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: when you're outside trying to come in. And over the years, 469 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: um I represented many Christians seeking asylum from Iraq and 470 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: Syria and Egypt, and um I feel, uh as many 471 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: people feel in in the community here in Chicago and 472 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Detroit and other places in the United States that um 473 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: there's something to the motivation of the government in going 474 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: after these people who are very peaceful, people who are 475 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: seeking to be reunited with their families or seeking refuge 476 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: from countries which are essentially failed states, Syria and Iraq, 477 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to the Christian minority, to the 478 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: Assyrian Christian minority, natives of these countries who have been 479 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: around for thousands of years and who are slowly being 480 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: displaced at a very fast rate, rapid rate since two 481 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: thousand and three. So there's a question as to why 482 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice was motivated to pursue a what 483 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: amounted to an eight year investigation. Um I've serviced probably 484 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: more than five four thousand clients over a period of 485 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: twenty years. UH. Many of them, UH, most of them, 486 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: if not all of them, decent people, hard working people 487 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: living all across the United States. UH, and out of 488 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: these They selected a group of nine to basically point 489 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: the finger from something like fifteen years ago, um, a 490 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: period of fifteen years ago or ten years ago, to say, 491 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, Robert made us do it, essentially to claim 492 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: that I had told them to say something or I 493 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: had told him not to say something. And I felt 494 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: that this was a and I still feel that there's Uh. 495 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm not questioning the legal process and not in any 496 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: way saying that it's okay to lie um in any 497 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: kind of proceeding. I'm an attorney. I know what the 498 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: rules are, I know what the law is. And that's 499 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: not the issue. The issue is what was the Department 500 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: of Justice motivated by to target the Christian community, a 501 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: Christian community that has suffered so much displacement, genocide a 502 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: hundred years ago. In fact, the State Department declared that 503 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: the Christian community suffered genocide at the hands of Isis 504 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago, right, And we had 505 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: to pull that out of them though too. That wasn't 506 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: even you know, easy to get done. I think there's 507 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: an ideological blindness to what's going on over there, and 508 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: and you're right to point to that, because I think 509 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: the ideological blindness. Anytime you mentioned the word Christian, uh, 510 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: you're categorized as being a conservative, a right wing uh 511 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: extremist uh and so on. And I think that's completely unfair. 512 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: I think the plight of Christians is something that all 513 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: Americans ought to be interested in because it speaks about 514 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: true persecution, UM, true displacement, UM, true oppression in in 515 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: various countries. And I think that um, this has not 516 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: been paid attention to. And I can tell you in 517 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: my twenty years as being an attorney representing Assyrian Christians 518 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: and others from these Middle Eastern countries, there's not been 519 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: uh much understanding, much sympathy, um, much empathy with with 520 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: the experiences of these refugees. And this last prosecution uh 521 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: tells me a lot and it tells the public a lot. Well, now, Rain, 522 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: let me ask you describe for us in the listening 523 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: audience out there, what the living conditions for Assyrian Christians 524 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: are now and why you feel it such a pressing 525 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: issue and that they potentially are under you know, the 526 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: threat through their lives is very real. I mean, describe 527 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: for us the situation so we can we can get 528 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: a better sense of what it looks like. Chat thank 529 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: you Dan for having us. The living conditions in Iraq 530 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: and Syria are horrendous. The younger imagination and who are 531 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: mainly targeted are as A Christians, the Assyrian Christians in 532 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: Iraq and Syria. I mean since two thousand three, we 533 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: have decreased from one point three million to three d thousand. 534 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean there is an estimate a total at one 535 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: point that we were almost a thirty millions when we 536 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: weren't persecuted, not narine. Just let me stop you for 537 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: a second. These are These people are not leaving, many 538 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: of them voluntarily. These people are leaving because they're being 539 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: pushed out due to threats of violence. Right, this is 540 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: in some this isn't a choice. They made a lot 541 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: of the Assyrian Christians by themselves correct exactly because seeing 542 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: the genocide, as the Secretary of States and Congress had 543 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: recently recognized that there's an actual Christian and yas he's 544 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: renocide happening. It didn't just start with Isis. And there 545 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: are many strategies of genocide, and one of them, besides 546 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: the slaughtering, is the perch. So they're you know, when 547 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: our homes were marked with and for nazarin, when Sean 548 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: and I had lasted it in two thousand four Key 549 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: and it was concealed this entire time. It was kept 550 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: silent that they didn't want the genocide to get out 551 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: to the rest of the world. They wanted to keep 552 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: their silent. So you know, the Ninevah were an Assyrian 553 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: city that was invaded the muscil. Another Assyrian Christian city 554 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: invaded by Isid who were a Those there are Assyrian 555 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Christian city invaded by artists. Those were the three main 556 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: areas that were completely perched, and of course Sinjar for 557 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: the Yasuni, we pro perched in hundreds of thousands, and 558 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: you know they executed many assuring Christians. Um they recorded 559 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: at Artist Reporter there was something else that we had 560 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: shared with the media, and they're killing us every ding 561 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: day and our lives we heard no safety Iraq and 562 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: Syria and the dhs IS made points across that I 563 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: is evaluated because I was in the trial from the 564 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: beginning until the end watching Robert's trial. Was that they 565 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: were trying to point out that there is no Christian 566 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: genocide in Iraq and Syria and that we are not 567 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: mainly targeted for our religion. You know, it seemed well, wait, 568 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: hold on, what are they saying that you were targeted for? 569 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Isn't it that that's absurd? I mean, if if you 570 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: now the number you just gave, correct me if I'm wrong. 571 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: There were one point three million Assyrian Christians? Is that 572 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: right now? Three hundred thousand? Yes? So what do they 573 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the government's position on this? They just 574 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: disappeared like this is like you know any SOPs fable, 575 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: a fairy tale, like, oh what happened? They just disappear? 576 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, what are they saying happen? It seems like 577 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: they were trying to clean out that everyone is killed 578 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: equally there at the Christians genocide. There is no uh, 579 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: main target towards Christians. But all they have to do 580 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: is look at our population here, being the indigenous people 581 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: of those areas, you would think that we would be 582 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: the largest number, but we are a Lewis. And not 583 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: only that, do we suffer genocides. We're treated like certain 584 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: clans citizens every single day, you know, jobs higher are 585 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: given too uh Muslims over Christians, and that's something I mean, 586 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: all I wanted to do was tell them, why didn't 587 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: you go to your rock and story and see if 588 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: you will live fully. And you know they had coached 589 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: the nine witnesses they had coached on to say, when 590 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: they were asked by the government agents, would you return 591 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: back to your rock right now and believe it or not? 592 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: They're actually said, no Christian in their right mind would 593 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: ever say they would return back to your rous. Once 594 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: they've stepped into the United States, once they claim they 595 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: are a Christians, they are a target for execution. Well 596 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: not Rain and Robert, I'm gonna pose this last question 597 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: to you, but just before I get there. The reason 598 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: they don't want to go over there and look for 599 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: themselves because they don't. I think you and I both 600 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: know they don't want the information. There's a difference. There's 601 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: a brick wall I magine old line to the truth. 602 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: They don't want it because it conflicts with your idealogy. 603 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: But Robert, last question, and then I have to run 604 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: for you. Um, are Christians having a tougher time applying 605 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: for a refugee or asylum status than say, people who 606 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: are Islamic of the exact same country. Um? I think 607 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: they are. UM. For example, just recently I heard of 608 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: a number something like two thousand, three hundred were admitted 609 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: from Syria. Only four of those were Christian. UH. In 610 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: the about ten percent is Christian and UH law the 611 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: law allows for vulnerable populations such as Christians to be 612 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: particularly UH admitted UH in terms of refugee numbers and 613 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: and the asylum. But somehow that has been overlooked. And 614 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: UH the question has to be asked, why why out 615 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: of two thousand, three hundred are we're only four Christians 616 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: admitted just recently. Yeah, well, Robert, I gotta run. Robert, Lorraine, 617 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming on to highlight, UH 618 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: this what I think. Just think the www dot stand 619 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: with ravertye to see how they can help. And Stan 620 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: would say that again, what is the website? It's www 621 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: dot Stanwood Robert dot com and his sentencing on by 622 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: the judge is August three. So please play for us, 623 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Stan with us, you know, any excited to support. We 624 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um and god well, thank you and thank you, Robert, 625 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate you got it. Wow, that was a troubling story, folks. 626 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: Go check out the article as well fox news dot 627 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: com by Holly McKay. It's an Iraqi American lawyer facing 628 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: prison for immigration fraud. Claims he was claims he was 629 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: targeted for Aiden Christians. Really powerful piece folks. Check it out.