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Speaker 1: Bold, reverence, and occasionally random. The Sunday Hang with Playing

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Speaker 1: Buck podcast starts now.

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Speaker 2: Dear clan Buck from Will, I was disappointed to hear

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Speaker 2: you both overlook Joe Peshi's best role.

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Speaker 3: Uh oh, the range is hot.

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Speaker 2: While he may be noteworthy, oh just noteworthy Will in

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Speaker 2: Casino and My Cousin Vinnie, there is nothing that can

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Speaker 2: compare with his role as Leo gets in the Lethal

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Speaker 2: Weapon franchise, bar none. Looking forward to Clay's book this weekend,

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Speaker 2: going to start it, keep up the great work and

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Speaker 2: shields high. Well, he's got a great book to read.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps he also have a great a great movie to

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Speaker 2: download after he reads Clay's book, which would be give

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Speaker 2: a second shot to my cousin Vinnie, because I just

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Speaker 2: don't think you can compare Peshi in Lethal Weapon to

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Speaker 2: his his his dynamic role in My Cousin Vinnie. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I will I fill a flag here, I said Casino Now,

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Speaker 2: Lethal Weapon? Is it the best cop buddy movie ever made?

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Speaker 2: I have some I have some theories.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think Bad Boys might be a

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Speaker 3: better cop buddy movie. Oh my god, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: I just did it. I just did it. I know,

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Speaker 3: I know everyone's booing, but it's true.

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Speaker 4: You think Martin Lawrence and Will Smith as a cop

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Speaker 4: combo are better than Riggs and Murtaw than Danny Glover

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Speaker 4: and Mel Gibson.

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Speaker 3: It's different.

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Speaker 2: Eras leth a Weapon is more iconic, and I understand that.

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Speaker 2: But if you're talking about which movie holds up more,

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Speaker 2: the first leth a Weapon movie or the first Bad

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Speaker 2: Boys movie, I know it's a Look, this is a

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Speaker 2: this is a hot take that not a lot of

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Speaker 2: people would co sign.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just throwing it out.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that anybody listening agrees with that opinion.

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Speaker 4: This might be the first time you've ever had an

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Speaker 4: opinion that you're wrong. A million million into a million

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Speaker 4: to one, like two million. However, many people are listening

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Speaker 4: at this exact moment. Every single one of them is

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Speaker 4: outraged at what you just said. Clay, As Einstein said,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter how many think I'm wrong. It only

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Speaker 4: takes one to prove me wrong.

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Speaker 5: I think I've already done it.

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Speaker 4: I just by merely saying Riggs and Murta, I think

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Speaker 4: your argument is dead on an arrival. Do you remember

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Speaker 4: can you name the two cops in bad bad boys.

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Speaker 3: Like their names.

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Speaker 5: Yeahs, I mean that's a idea.

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Speaker 3: Mike Lowry, that's.

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Speaker 1: The other guy.

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Speaker 5: It is impressive that you remembered one.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It's been a long time since I've seen either.

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Speaker 4: Of I would even argue forty eight hours probably I

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Speaker 4: wasn't even thinking about that.

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Speaker 3: That's probably a better.

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Speaker 4: And if you want to expand it into a trio,

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Speaker 4: I would argue that Beverly Hills Cop. With that trio,

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Speaker 4: you know, he got what's Billy and and Beverly Hills Cop.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's Rosewood and it's Rosewood Foley and the other

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Speaker 2: guy Billy Billy is his first name, Billy Hoyle. No,

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Speaker 2: that's a white man kid jumping Rosewood. Isn't that his

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Speaker 2: last name in the movie? Yeah, it's Rosewood. And then

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Speaker 2: Murtaw is it Murtaw? No, that's Lee the weapon. No crap,

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Speaker 2: I'm forgett. But who's who's the Who's the curmudgeonly? The

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Speaker 2: one that I feel like I identify the most with

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Speaker 2: From the first Beverly Hills Cop movie, You don't they

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Speaker 2: go to the strip club and he said he's Richard Nixon.

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Speaker 3: Sergeant Taggart. Thank you, Taggert.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Beverly Hills Cop maybe the best cop movie of

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Speaker 2: a whole different. I don't think of that though, as

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Speaker 2: to be fair lethal weapon. Yeah, the franchise is iconic

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Speaker 2: cop movies. I'm just gonna say it. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: Big fan of Turner and Hooch, I think it overlooked,

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Speaker 5: I mean, Tango and Cash is better than Bad Boys.

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Speaker 4: You remember Tangoing Cash, Tag Going Cash a little overrated?

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Speaker 3: Just God, throw it out there, doesn't really hold up.

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you it doesn't really.

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Speaker 4: Just made a dog in a detective movie argument, and

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Speaker 3: I just said, I like Turner and Hooch.

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Speaker 2: There's also the Jim Belushi version of K nine, which

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Speaker 4: Starsky and Hutch. I never saw it, so I can't

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Speaker 4: speak to it. That's from our team. I'm sure we're

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Speaker 4: getting delused right now, but I don't think there's a

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Speaker 4: single person listening that agrees with you about Bad Boys.

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Speaker 4: I think that Mel Gibson's body of work is phenomenal

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Speaker 3: Terms of the movies, I think Brave Heart is an

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Speaker 2: I'm trying, Oh, is Point Break a buddy cop movie?

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Speaker 4: Because that, again, it depends on how many cops you're

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: A heist movie is where for everybody out there, there's

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Speaker 4: And it's different than a criminal versus a cop movie,

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Speaker 2: It's obviously it's like a dark, almost film noir kind

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Speaker 4: Training Day is better than Training Day is better than

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Speaker 4: we agree on that, better than all of the if

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Speaker 4: you count it as a buddy cop movie. But again,

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Speaker 4: it's not really a buddy I mean, they're not buddies.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get in the event that somebody's like,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm finally gonna watch

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Speaker 4: Training Day on Saturday. I don't want to spoil it,

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Speaker 4: even though you've had twenty years to watch it. But

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Speaker 4: not really a buddy cop movie. You think at the

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Speaker 2: There was The Last Boy Scout, which is so bad

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Speaker 3: There was a whole in the mid late eighties.

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Speaker 2: They were churning these things out so fast that even

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Speaker 4: I've got another one for you that I forgot about.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty good. Chris Tucker and uh and who's the

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Speaker 4: Asian martial arts.

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Speaker 2: Guy, Oh rush Hour? Of course, yeah, Jackie rush Hower's

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Speaker 2: pretty good. That's a funny cop movie. I just want

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Speaker 2: to point out, with Clay with his definitive blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah bucks one hundred million percent wrong, our team looked

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Speaker 2: it up. MovieWeb dot com agrees with me.

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Speaker 4: That bad yesterday just say that we can't cite these

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Speaker 4: random websites. But like when we were talking about the

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna change the rules of the game as

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Speaker 2: I need to before we get to break.

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Speaker 1: Here Sunday Sizzle with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 3: And I had to. I'm not gonna lie. I was

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Speaker 3: choking on a choking on a bit of a sandwich there,

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Speaker 3: So we had.

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Speaker 4: A good start for both of us because I'm talking

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Speaker 4: to our guests in Cleveland and you're choking, and uh,

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Speaker 4: at least you didn't. What would happen if you just

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Speaker 3: I was Uh.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I was on Fox News a long time ago

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Speaker 3: I couldn't continue that.

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Speaker 2: We had to we had to break in the middle

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Speaker 2: she obviously wasn't choking, but like she just couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Something was in her throat.

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Speaker 2: And I looked at her and they kind of were

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Speaker 2: and yes, I'm going to continue this segment while you

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Speaker 3: But you know live TV.

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Speaker 2: That stuff can happen, all right, So we have this

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Speaker 2: this happened in Texas. This sounds like a Florida man story,

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Speaker 2: but it happened.

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Speaker 3: To a Texas woman.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, they actually they actually just found that clip

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Speaker 2: right away of me with Megan Kelly, so it's.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, well done.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna put it up at

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Speaker 2: clanbuck dot com. And that's a real thing if you

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Speaker 2: want that throwback where I was like, are you okay?

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Speaker 2: You guys are fast on this team. So anyway back

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Speaker 2: to tech Texas woman, if you were attacked by a snake,

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Speaker 3: I think that is fair.

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Speaker 2: If you are attacked by a hawk, you were having

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Speaker 2: dig its talons into you? But Clay, how is it

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Speaker 2: possible for one person to be attacked by a snake

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Speaker 4: Do we have audio of this lady? I don't think

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Speaker 4: it is cut eighteen? What is cut eighteen?

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Speaker 3: Crew?

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Speaker 4: Is this the lady being interviewed? Because I think she

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Speaker 4: got interviewed about this. No, it might be a news

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Speaker 4: name is Peggy Jones. She was riding a tractor in

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Speaker 4: the snake bitterfoot or wrapped around her leg. A snake

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Speaker 4: and so a snake attacks her that falls out of

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Speaker 2: A hawk then came down and while the snake was

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Speaker 2: the hawk was about to eat the snake, it dropped

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Speaker 2: its dinner. The dinner dropped on her. The snake dinner

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Speaker 2: then bit her, and then the hawk attacked her to

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Speaker 2: get its dinner back. How is that even possible?

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Speaker 4: This is the worst luck imaginable. The only way this

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Speaker 3: Those little otters are tough. Who knew I thought that

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Speaker 4: I just hope that people of Rockaway Beach are safe

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have a lot of fun discussing with her.

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Speaker 4: But Charlie, let's start here. What did you think of

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Speaker 6: And I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the debate was on Wednesday night. You and I

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Speaker 6: I actually it was funny. I was just in Whole

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Speaker 4: So you're in Whole Foods and you're on an escalator

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Speaker 6: Hey, dog, she doesn't like masks. She gets upset when

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a great name.

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Speaker 7: So I feel like toxic masculinity is actually the opposite,

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Speaker 6: I'm all for a man being like I'm doing this.

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Speaker 6: I'm a man. There's just so many things that I

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Speaker 4: It's interesting, by the way, none of this stuff is

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Speaker 7: I think we got here because people are afraid to

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Speaker 6: That's what happens.

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Speaker 7: I mean, even when I started speaking up about it,

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Speaker 7: you know, I don't want to like, I guess exacerbate

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Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean that you can unfringe on.

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Speaker 7: A woman's space in order to exercise what you now

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Speaker 6: So I don't know, I just people just it's it's

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Speaker 6: the same, you know, same old playbook page from that

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Speaker 7: They try to come at you immediately with oh, you're hateful,

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Speaker 7: and then that forces you to not, you know, really

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Speaker 7: like take a hard stance, which is what you're doing,

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Speaker 7: what I'm doing, what Riley's doing. But I think I

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Speaker 7: think most people would agree that this is just a

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Speaker 6: This isn't a political issue. It's very much common sense.

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Speaker 7: And I'm hopeful that sooner or later it'll get to

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Speaker 7: Ponder alone on an island, but hopefully eventually there'll be

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Speaker 7: more people speaking up.

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Speaker 6: To keep women's sports. Women's sports.

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Speaker 4: Amen, Charlie, I will see you on Sunday. I hope

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Speaker 4: people will enjoy watching us ten o'clock eastern.

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Speaker 5: On Fox News.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a great show.

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Speaker 4: I hope, so, I hope so. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 4: go well. Ten o'clock eastern on Fox News. Charlie Arnault,

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Speaker 4: thank you for joining us. Appreciate all the good work.

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Speaker 3: At out Kick.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Bye, everyone,