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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast will pick Shuck's game this week.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan hanss I'm a hero, but I'm not alone.

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Speaker 3: Let's start there.

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Speaker 2: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and Mark we've made it to

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Speaker 2: the end of the Yellow Brick Road. It's the Week

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Speaker 2: eighteen preview show. After we finished today's show. Because it's

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Speaker 2: the last week of the regular season, you can go

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Speaker 2: into the Hollywood Hills and just slumber until September.

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Speaker 3: Just kidding, we're like halfway through the season. I mean

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Speaker 3: a brief stop along the way.

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Speaker 4: This does feel I do love the feeling of this

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Speaker 4: being the last preview. It will be the last time

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Speaker 4: we preview an Eastern Stick Chargers game or some of

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Speaker 4: these teams, so it'll be different. It'll be different next week,

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Speaker 4: I well, Black Monday, when we do the previews, it'll

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Speaker 4: just be on six games. It will be diving in

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Speaker 4: a little more, but it won't be as many teams.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's good to appreciate the Eastern Sticks in

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Speaker 2: the world. The last time you'll ever hear Gift Smith's name.

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Speaker 2: These are important things because these are people.

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Speaker 5: But I would argue that, like I normally want to

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Speaker 5: get rid of a lot of these teams, like early November. Right,

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Speaker 5: But the NFL finally got what they wanted because as

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Speaker 5: of like a week plus ago, all but four teams

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Speaker 5: were still essentially alive. I think the nfls fought against

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Speaker 5: itself on one level. I was thinking about this, you

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Speaker 5: greedily add an.

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Speaker 2: Extra week, Right, we'll edit out the greed.

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Speaker 5: Well you did, And it's like, had you gone with

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Speaker 5: what always worked where it ended last week, you would

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Speaker 5: have had all a slobber knocker of a week, credible

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Speaker 5: amount of teams, more alive than ever before.

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Speaker 4: But this week you've gone into Nay, I would have

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Speaker 4: been eliminated. Just a week before it would have been

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Speaker 4: the same thing.

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Speaker 5: No, they would like still, I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: More teams were alive, it would have been would have

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Speaker 5: been tighter, and they wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: It's been alive because the season would have ended, been

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Speaker 4: ending early. It changes everything.

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Speaker 5: This extra week though, this extra week added a lot

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Speaker 5: of garbage, and that's always coming from But like then, then.

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Speaker 4: Well then the Bears would have been dead a week before.

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Speaker 3: Everyone would have been.

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Speaker 5: An extra week just to get to another like lineup

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can sell. I don't think you

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Speaker 5: And the super Bowl is like it on Valentine's Day,

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Speaker 5: final week. It's like I'm saying, it's not overall, Like

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Speaker 5: the argument is not now to go out a week

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Speaker 5: so for people to.

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Speaker 2: Wonder why I started the show with a joke the

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Speaker 2: mark that he was going to be able to rest

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Speaker 2: in the Hollywood Hills.

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Speaker 3: That's what's going on in his head at all times.

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Speaker 3: But you know they're adding a week nineteen soon. Sure,

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Speaker 3: I do think that they should.

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Speaker 2: Actually I think I think seems silly that they're doing

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Speaker 2: an extra Homer away game.

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Speaker 3: But my attached no, does just be an extra bye week?

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Speaker 3: Only twelve quarterbacks have started every game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's the argument against these extra weeks from

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Speaker 5: a court. Now, I'd say this year it's been charming.

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Speaker 5: It's been charming. The backups have it'll I could tell,

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Speaker 5: but the backups lot, a lot of them have been

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Speaker 4: But the first five minutes of every show is complaining

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Speaker 4: about that we have the job.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's I think it's also fair. I'm

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Speaker 3: not complaining. Look at the League and.

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Speaker 5: Say like, hey, guys, like, let's be careful because if

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Speaker 5: you go add six more teams eight more weeks, like

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Speaker 5: the NFL changes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think that.

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Speaker 4: I think the first thing they'll do is at a week,

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Speaker 4: not a game. But that's just me like a bye week.

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Speaker 2: Can I say Mark that you were making a lot

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Speaker 2: of salient points there. Yeah, but then lost your Paisley

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Speaker 2: Paisley it from I call him Brad Paisley got it

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Speaker 2: from the handful of them, so you got the extra

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Speaker 2: But also I'm getting a little mid riff from the

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Speaker 2: dressed like it's like a Drew Barrymore outfit from the

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Speaker 2: Batman Forever premiere.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 5: I take the lowest button on the shirt and I

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Speaker 2: But I'm seeing up top and down low you are

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Speaker 2: and I'm not complaining, no, and I don't want you

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Speaker 2: to be, so I almost move in a little.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Greg, Sorry, I know we need to get to

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Speaker 3: uh the snow, we don't. We don't?

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Speaker 4: That was I want more of that? Aren't Taco met?

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Speaker 4: And I'm lookingwhere else is going on.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Marks bear Torso and Greg's arguing about

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Speaker 2: how perfect the NFL is, and Mark's like going off

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Speaker 2: the deep end about how terrible it is, and I'm

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Speaker 3: You know what, you have to self scout.

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Speaker 5: You have to be able to critique your own product,

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Speaker 5: right or do you just company man everything until the

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Speaker 5: end of time?

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Speaker 3: Just right?

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Speaker 4: You just hang around? I'm that So that was what

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Speaker 4: I felt like my role. I was self scouting.

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Speaker 3: That matters. So we're just going to start the show

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Speaker 3: over in.

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Speaker 4: The first five minutes complaining every show is probably not

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Speaker 3: All right, let's know what you want.

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Speaker 2: Let's everybody, let's let's brain this in and get to

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Speaker 2: what we need to get to because, as we know,

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Speaker 2: this late in the season, final week of the regular season,

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Speaker 2: there are no buys, a lot of games to talk about,

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Speaker 2: and let's start on.

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Speaker 3: Saturday, the last Saturday of the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Remember there are playoff games played Saturday as well, so

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Speaker 2: these this is not the last of Saturday football.

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Speaker 3: Let's start though, on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: How about that through a little curveball to you, because

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Speaker 2: that's the game everyone wants to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Recover from that curveball hanging there. I think we'll be

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night Football. It is the game of the week.

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Speaker 2: It is the game to decide the AFC East. It

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Speaker 2: is the ten and six Buffalo Bills traveling to Miami

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Speaker 4: And it is the Miami It is the Bills.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it tells you so much about

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Speaker 3: It's been a topsy turvy year up in Orchard Park.

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Speaker 2: They're getting three points in this game, So the at

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Speaker 2: least the desert and the public feel like despite all

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Speaker 2: fact that the Dolphins have a track record of bouncing

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Speaker 2: It is the host Dolphins that are an underdog in

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Speaker 2: a game that decides the division. And as you said, Greg,

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Speaker 3: So the stakes are very high.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of another game like this that we've

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Speaker 4: even they might get the two seed. They will get

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Speaker 3: That's wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we kept looking at like a ten wins probably

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Speaker 4: there in the NFC. Well, it turns out nine wins

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Speaker 4: And if they lose this game and either the Steelers

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Speaker 3: It's like gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Great or it's gonna be rough, like it kind of

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen to go into hero ball mode because he

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Speaker 4: the way this Dolphins defense has been playing, it's hard

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Speaker 3: If they beat the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But yes, last well, last week was just I think

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Speaker 5: Mean, last week was a perception altering loss. But I

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Speaker 5: You've got a potential issue with Tua who may not

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Speaker 5: They've been seven to one at home. It sounds like

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Speaker 5: Jayal and Wattle might come back. But that variance for

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Speaker 5: the Bills feels perfect, a perfect way to finalize this

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Speaker 5: regular season because they've been that team all year around.

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Speaker 5: I just cannot imagine an AFC playoffs. I'm not that

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Speaker 5: high on the Bills in terms of being a true

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl type of team the way they have been

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Speaker 5: in the past. But an AFC playoff picture without Josh

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Speaker 5: Allen feels really mixed up to me.

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Speaker 4: And they need Waddle, they need Wattle yet.

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Speaker 2: And Eric the producer, listen, think whether or not you're

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Speaker 2: confident and eighteen. I'm curious if you are. I just

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Speaker 2: have this feeling that the Bills. It would be fitting

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Speaker 2: as much as people seem to be confident about Buffalo. Now, Eric,

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Speaker 2: I worry about this game because I guess I'm putting

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Speaker 2: they haven't lost since their bye week. I look at

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna make don't want you know, because Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: Though their defense has been fantastic, they're totally different than

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Speaker 3: It's it's too big of a drop off to keep up.

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Speaker 5: It also met like what version of jayal and Waddle

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Speaker 4: But this does he make it through the game? Does

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Speaker 2: And here's just the pure stats because we have talked

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Speaker 3: Will Josh Allen do it? He obviously has the ability

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen is a superstar quarterback, but hot damn was

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Speaker 3: Maybe a big week for the Zoo after a tough loss.

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Speaker 3: Greg might want to listen to this one closely. Okay,

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Speaker 3: hello heroes.

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Speaker 7: I want to tell all your listeners out there what

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Speaker 3: You know what this guy wouldn't do.

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Speaker 7: He wouldn't even tell me who he's locking I told

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Speaker 3: He's like, hey, hey.

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Speaker 7: Dolphins without half thirteen, you can have the Bills. You've

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Speaker 7: don't you be a man block off against me? I'm

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Speaker 7: taking the Dolphins. I have no idea if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. You can't be that afraid of me.

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Speaker 3: With five to play, get out of here, do it? Greg?

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Speaker 3: Be a man, all right? So love it?

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 3: Great character work by Nick.

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Speaker 4: So it's such nine tense because he's all nice and

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Speaker 3: Well he's a showman. But let me say this, Let

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Speaker 2: I know you know Greg well, but Greg, it's built

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Speaker 2: That's like, it's intrinsic to Greg's entire being that that

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Speaker 3: It's the opposite of cowardice.

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Speaker 2: He's not so by telling him, he won't do it,

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Speaker 4: I hope, Well, Dan is trying to Jedi mind trick

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Speaker 4: Sorry the bills I have.

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Speaker 2: Picked him, I'd be nervous about it. On the road

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 4: I am four up, so I would still have, you know,

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Speaker 4: But if I were to win it, uh, the lock

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Speaker 3: Looking at the standings, I'm fifteen and two. Wow. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it has been. And Greg stepped in stepped

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the other.

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Speaker 2: Saturday games now, starting with the Pittsburgh Steelers at the

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Speaker 3: Here's here's the call in this one.

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Speaker 2: Chris Fowler, Lou Riddick, Danny Orlowski, Laura Rutledge on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: This is the Steelers getting three and a half. Steelers

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Speaker 2: Here's how it's possible. Lamar Jackson's not playing and John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 3: It's the right move.

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Speaker 5: I absolutely think it is. I don't think you toy

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Speaker 3: Like I don't think football team are not.

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Speaker 3: They're not built that way.

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Speaker 5: And this is a different Steelers team, Like Mason Rudolph,

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Speaker 2: couple of games like that.

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Speaker 4: Why do I feel like they are going to get

443
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 4: into the that would mean I lose my lock because

444
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 4: that means the bill is lost. Like, I think this

445
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 4: is a better lock than the Bill, So I am

446
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 4: definitely giving up my old my usual like just pick

447
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 4: the best one because to me, the Steelers are going

448
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:22,880
Speaker 4: to win this game.

449
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's what you guys say.

450
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Speaker 4: It's like very analytical, Like, to me, the Steelers are

451
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 4: going to win this game. I'm much more confident than

452
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Speaker 4: Steelers win this game. I'm with Mark. I think they're different.

453
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Speaker 4: You know what stand out to me that first the

454
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Speaker 4: first third down of last week, Mason Rudolph. It's like

455
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Speaker 4: a third and nine and he's looking to the right

456
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 4: side of the field and he no one's open there,

457
00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 4: and he gets to his third read like so fast,

458
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Speaker 4: and it's Deontay Johnson who's wide open on the total

459
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,880
Speaker 4: other side of the field, and he.

460
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Speaker 3: Got there fast.

461
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Speaker 4: And I'm just thinking, of course, Deanty Johnson's wide open

462
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 4: because he's Deontay Johnson.

463
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 3: He's awesome at running routes.

464
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Speaker 4: And Rudolph got to that receiver in a way that

465
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Speaker 4: Picket wouldn't have or Trubisky wouldn't have. He's been a

466
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Speaker 4: different quarterback I know it's only two weeks and so

467
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Speaker 4: it might not continue, and this is a tougher matchup,

468
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 4: even against backups, but he's been a different quarterback and

469
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 4: he's letting their best players shine. Pickens is suddenly like

470
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 4: has eleven hundred yards on the season because the two

471
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Speaker 4: games with Rudolph Johnson Friarmouth they're third. It's only two weeks,

472
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Speaker 4: but they are third in EPA. In those two weeks

473
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Speaker 4: they are the number three offense. I think they roll,

474
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Speaker 4: and I wouldn't be shocked if if TJ. Watt like

475
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Speaker 4: sacks Huntly three times in an Island game here, It's

476
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Speaker 4: like that could get him some DPOI votes. Here he's

477
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Speaker 4: at sixteen and a half sacks, something like, oh, you

478
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,479
Speaker 4: could completely see that, Like if you could see him

479
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 4: having a crazy big game and getting to twenty sacks

480
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 4: and then suddenly he wins the award.

481
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Speaker 2: You know, Mark, I thought initially when you mentioned the

482
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Speaker 2: Ravens in their preseason success, I didn't know quite where

483
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Speaker 2: you were going because.

484
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Speaker 3: They had won twenty four in a row and then

485
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Speaker 3: they lost. I don't know what at.

486
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Speaker 2: All, because the preseason famously is utter nonsense.

487
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Speaker 3: Well, their backups are good. I'm just saying they're good, Like,

488
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Speaker 3: can I finish there, guys? Oh, okay, I just say

489
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Speaker 3: I'm getting to my point.

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Speaker 2: However, I think there's something to that that the John Harbaugh,

491
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Speaker 2: this team, they always compete and he is a master motivator.

492
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Speaker 2: There's a reason why they had that type of streak

493
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Speaker 2: because it mattered to them to keep that going. I

494
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: think it absolutely matters the idea of the chance to

495
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Speaker 2: knock out the Haten Steelers.

496
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Speaker 3: I think they're the backups.

497
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Speaker 2: It's almost more of a flex and something that they

498
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: would be more proud of than just beating him with

499
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: the regular guys, like, look, we canna beat you at

500
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Speaker 2: the backups and ruin your season and ruin your twenty

501
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Speaker 2: twenty four. So I think he's going to be pushing

502
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 2: all those buttons, and they are. They're a deep, excellent

503
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: roster playing at home. I'm a very nervous Steelers fan

504
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, for all this like Mason

505
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 2: Rudolph Mania we're having right now, Mason Rudolph on the

506
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: road in early January of the playoffs on the line,

507
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Speaker 2: how confident can you really be?

508
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Speaker 5: I'd also ask, like, because it's only three and a half, right,

509
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 5: Tyler Huntley has been in a situation in week eighteen

510
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 5: years in a row like this is like you're not

511
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 5: throwing someone out there that's like total newbie.

512
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Speaker 4: But how much of the roster do you sit? And

513
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 4: how long you can't sit that many?

514
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Speaker 3: That's the thing. I mean, you're gonna have. It's like

515
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 3: you're talking Lamar.

516
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Speaker 5: That makes a huge difference, but in probably some skill

517
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Speaker 5: position guys.

518
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Speaker 4: But it's Lamar, it's Odell who's not practicing. It's Zay Flowers,

519
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 4: it's Kyle Hamilton, it's Humphrey, it's guys who have injuries.

520
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 4: Maybe a couple guys like Rocon and Queen. But you

521
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 4: can't sit that many. Just the numbers don't work. So

522
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Speaker 4: I'm with you. I think it'll be it could be competitive,

523
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Speaker 4: and I give the Ravens a chance, but I think

524
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Speaker 4: this is.

525
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Speaker 3: A different Steelers team.

526
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Speaker 2: December twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, the Steelers lost to the

527
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Speaker 2: Ravens backups in Baltimore. They missed the playoffs. So there's

528
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Speaker 2: history here too, and that was John Arba.

529
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Speaker 4: I remember that Bill's starters once losing to the Steelers' backups.

530
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Speaker 4: I think it was two thousand and four to miss

531
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Speaker 4: the playoffs in week seventeen.

532
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Speaker 3: That was with Drew Bledsoe. And like it happens, it happens.

533
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Speaker 4: There's a reason why it happens more when it's like

534
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: the one seed resting players, which was the case, and

535
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Speaker 4: the Steelers and the Ravens, because well, their team's good,

536
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: like the backups are good, they.

537
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Speaker 2: Can still win. Interesting, that was yet twenty nineteen. So

538
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Speaker 2: the Ravens, Yeah, they were then flat two weeks later

539
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: against the Titans, they kicked the Steelers ass in that spot.

540
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to the other Saturday a game

541
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Speaker 2: that would be the Houston Texans against the Indianapolis Cults.

542
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Speaker 2: Are right, Greg, I'm gonna need your help with some

543
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 2: tabulations on this one. There are three teams that are

544
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Speaker 2: nine and seven in the AFC South entering a week eighteen,

545
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Speaker 2: the aforementioned Texans and Colts, yes, the Jacksonville Jaguars. What

546
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Speaker 2: happens when one of these teams wins on Saturday?

547
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Speaker 3: Tell me who wins this division?

548
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 4: They're in the playoffs, which is exciting, and the.

549
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Speaker 3: Losers done or are they still a lot?

550
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Speaker 4: The loser is not done. They'll have to wait, I believe,

551
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Speaker 4: to find out. But the winner gets to wait till

552
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Speaker 4: Sunday to find out if they win the division. The

553
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 4: Jaguars are essentially in pole position, and if they win.

554
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Speaker 2: That's what I was looking for. So the Jags destiny

555
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 2: is in their hands for this division. But the winner

556
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Speaker 2: of this game has obviously they're going to the dance

557
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: and have a chance to get that home game as well.

558
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a lot. It's a lot at steak here.

559
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Speaker 3: Playoff game. It's a playoff game. I like it. I

560
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Speaker 3: like it.

561
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Speaker 2: Who do we like in the game? Gardner Meanshew and

562
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Speaker 2: the Colts. Do we have by the way, we have Minshew?

563
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Speaker 2: Do we have the Minshe was playing the Raiders last week?

564
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Speaker 2: Nice win. Minshew makes a big throw, touchdown pass. They

565
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Speaker 2: beat the Raiders, keep their hopes alive. And you know,

566
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Speaker 2: Max Crosby, this should not come as a surprise. A

567
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: maniac on the field keeps on calling him what a

568
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: sit down little boy, kept on calling him a little boy,

569
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Speaker 2: I believe. And here's a Minshew on the sideline expressing

570
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Speaker 2: he's almost puzzled and a little bit offended that Max

571
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Speaker 2: Crosby doesn't respect his size.

572
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Speaker 3: Dude, Max Crosby is.

573
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Speaker 2: So damn angry Burke Like.

574
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Speaker 3: The thing is that he's not living that Anthony.

575
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Speaker 8: I know, right, he just calls he keeps calling everybody

576
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 8: low ass boy, ass boy.

577
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm little out here, but not always that

578
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Speaker 3: was inside the NFL.

579
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Speaker 2: By the way, the good he's a hard guy not

580
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: to like, obviously, but he has a chance here in

581
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: a year where he started out as the backup to

582
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson who goes down early, and he keeps the

583
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: Cults relevant and now here it is mark your guy

584
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: Minshew with a chance to take the Cults to the playoffs.

585
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Speaker 5: They've been really consistent in terms of points produced. I

586
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 5: think with Minshew, it's the story week to week has

587
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 5: been which version you're getting? They're five and oh when

588
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 5: he doesn't have when he doesn't throw an interception and

589
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 5: they and they markedly different team when he crumbles, and

590
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 5: so I think that you're playing a Texans defense that

591
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 5: is completely different under this coaching staff. I think this

592
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 5: is a codyoff, like a Coach of the Year off

593
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Speaker 5: between Shane Stike and Ryans.

594
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Speaker 3: I mean, this did have to be in the top.

595
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Speaker 5: Three coach of the year in terms of narrative, I think,

596
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 5: let's check out the draft King of the year. If

597
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 5: you're the voter that's that look doesn't say, like, you

598
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: know what, we should just give it to Kyle Shanahan,

599
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 5: which doesn't happen.

600
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Speaker 4: Your boy's the favorite is a heavy favorite right now.

601
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Speaker 2: And but Ryan's here's And this is why you're not

602
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: off though, Mark, So it's the fans get a heavy favorite.

603
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: But Ryan's and Stikeen are both plus eleven hundred on

604
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Speaker 2: draft kings, so they're very in terms of how the

605
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Speaker 2: odds makers see it. They have done an equally good

606
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Speaker 2: job in terms of the story and what they've done

607
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Speaker 2: with their teams. So maybe, like us with our picks,

608
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Speaker 2: it's for second place.

609
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 5: It is for second place because I don't think anything

610
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: the Browns, with no starters in their due would affense.

611
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Speaker 4: It's also assuming that the odds makers have this have

612
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Speaker 4: it correct, which I don't think. Think it's that mean

613
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 4: that's a monster favorite, giving them almost no chance, and

614
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. I think if the Texans

615
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: win this game in exciting fashion, Ryan's would have a chance, and.

616
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Speaker 3: I think he should.

617
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: I think he should because it's also his assistance the

618
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 5: way that CJ. Stroud's developed the worst thing that matter

619
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 5: either way, both of them, but one of them's on.

620
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: One thing's on my radar.

621
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Speaker 5: And it's a small sample size, but the numbers for

622
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: Stroud post Tank Dell are pretty interesting. Like its yards

623
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: per attempt dropped by like two point five yards almost Yeah,

624
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 5: his passer rating drop by twelve points. It's not a

625
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: big sample size, but it just reminds you that Tank

626
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 5: Dell and him worked so well together and they were

627
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 5: so dynamic. But I still think about, like I talked

628
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 5: it about this Colts team a bunch, but the team

629
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Speaker 5: that I want to see in the playoffs is the

630
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 5: Houston Texans. I mean, I feel like they could do

631
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 5: something kind of freaky and unpredictable, or I think the

632
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 5: Cults are going to be that glass of vanilla milk

633
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: that we absolutely expect one way or another.

634
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Speaker 2: I think that those numbers post Tank almost got to

635
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 2: get tossed out because that was he gets hurt and

636
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: then they go to the metal lens and play in

637
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: a reign where they get shut out basically before he

638
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: goes out with an injury, and their stats were terrible there.

639
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: So there's not a big sample size.

640
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: I believe he has the ability to make it work

641
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: without Dell and Nico Collins, right, Like we've talked about

642
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: Collins and what a year he's had, Like, I think

643
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: there is dynamic offense in this team post Dell.

644
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: Maybe we see it here. I agree.

645
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Speaker 4: And I was really curious to see how he looked

646
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: last week after the injury, because I think his season

647
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: peaked in that Bengals game, one of the best games

648
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: of the year. After that, I don't think he played.

649
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he's played at like a top five

650
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 4: QB level the whole season, I think, which is an

651
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: enormously high bar for a rookie. I think he did

652
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: play at that for like a month, and that month

653
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: was November, and and for the five games since, he

654
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: was kind of back to where he was before that,

655
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Speaker 4: which is like ten to twelve very of quarterbacks in

656
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: the NFL, which again is exceptional for a rookie. But

657
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: looking at what he did last week, I thought he

658
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 4: was very good. His feet looked great, he was extremely accurate. Again,

659
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: he was taking what the different defense was giving him.

660
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 4: I thought it was a really encouraging game for him

661
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: to come back and makes me feel good about picking

662
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 4: them this week because I just think they have a

663
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: little more They've shown an ability on defense, and hopefully

664
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: they get Grenard back this week. Will Anderson's also not practicing.

665
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 4: There's Millie Collins's a little worrisome, but I'm guessing Collins

666
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: and Anderson play. But they found a way to just

667
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 4: like bring new guys in and make it work. Like

668
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: Derek Barnett is on this team by the way, he

669
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: was on the Eagles halfway through the season, couldn't get

670
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: on the field.

671
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: He's got more pressures over the last.

672
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: Two week by far than anyone on the Eagles, almost

673
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: doubled them. So like they just like put guys into

674
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: this offense and it works, and so I'm just hoping

675
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: it happens because he's a little more dynamic. But I

676
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 4: do think Minsch's playing his best ball the year right now.

677
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 4: He only has three PFF games all year over seventy

678
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 4: it's three of the last games now. He's been a

679
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 4: little mistake free and just kind of moving the offense.

680
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: And it's funny they run the same offense that I

681
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: would have expected with Richardson.

682
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Speaker 2: It's like all RPOs and they have you're right and

683
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: uh me, And this is a primetime game.

684
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: This is, by the way, c J. Strout's first primetime games.

685
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: A pro me and you probably hasn't played a ton

686
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: I would imagine in his NFL career, And I do

687
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, he's an excitable fellow. Hopefully he doesn't get

688
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: too fired up by the moment.

689
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: Starts trying to play hero ball.

690
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: If he stays within himself, I think the Colts have

691
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: a have a good chance here. But I do love

692
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Stroud having a chance to do this under the lights

693
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: as well. He seems like the type of guy you

694
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: could blow up with. You know, the game's going to

695
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: do a huge number and everything, and everybody's gonna be

696
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: watching it.

697
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: Troy and Joe. How about that?

698
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: This coming out a true coming out party for Stroud

699
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: in prime time to punch a playoff ticket the I

700
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: like the Texans.

701
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: I need to correct a mistake. I apologize. Okay, this

702
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: is an elimination, big of you. You know what it

703
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: was because I had the tie thing in my head

704
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 4: that technically they weren't.

705
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 3: No tabulate baby. But you lose, you go.

706
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, you lose, you lose, You're out, you win, You're

707
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 4: in period.

708
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: It's very simple. And then wait and see if you

709
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: win the division. Yes, you wait and see. If you win,

710
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: you're that that's under the retabulation. You're you're eliminated.

711
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: You know something, when you had the old T eight

712
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: hundred calculator hit that one wrong button, it's a wrap.

713
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 3: That's what happened. That's true of all calculators. But yeah,

714
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: but that T eight hundred. Yeah, for those who know,

715
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: back to the drawing to your.

716
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: Point on prime time, this is actually the only game

717
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: all year the Texans have played. That's not at ten

718
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 4: am Pacific eight hundred game might.

719
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Actually they did not have high hopes for the You

720
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Speaker 2: might predate the T eight hundred mark in your education

721
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: because you're years older. But what what about Western mess?

722
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: Was the T eight hundred huge?

723
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like this is the highest of technological advance.

724
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Speaker 3: But is the T eight.

725
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: Hundred arnold from a terminator or was it what was

726
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: the name of that calculator?

727
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Something like that sounds right to me.

728
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: T I let's see calculator Texas instruments. We need to

729
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: to that instruments ninety eight three games? Uh, oh, there

730
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: it is. Oh, that son of a bitch and it

731
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: would make the Uh, I'm gonna show it to you

732
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: right now.

733
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: It's the T I eighty three. Oh yeah, no I

734
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: had that and uh nothing was annoying. Well your had

735
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: the crank and everything years. No, it did not. Dan,

736
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: I'm like like literally like five years younger than you

737
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: or something.

738
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Speaker 4: You have to like actually weirdly like put diamond you

739
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: have to put coins into it.

740
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, work, damn. It still costs two hundred and twenty

741
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: bucks to this day. Why would people want to?

742
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: All right, why anyway I want that thing?

743
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're if you're maybe it's in relics.

744
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: You need it basically because.

745
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: You would have to type in the theory or whatever

746
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: and then and then you're you want the chart to

747
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: do something that is the correct answer.

748
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 3: But then it's like you blow it.

749
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: Why they can't they can charge much because you don't

750
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: have any other options, Like they've cornered that market, did it?

751
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: Those bastards at Texas Instruments. All right, I'll see what

752
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: the Texans do. Let's take a break and then we'll

753
00:32:52,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: get to the draft. Welcome back to around the NFL

754
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: the week eighteen.

755
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 5: By the way, yes, I fixed this button down here

756
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: because like not me off that you're like looking at my.

757
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: Mid Yeah, this is why we were we our roots

758
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: are puritanical and you grew up in England and Connecticut.

759
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 2: So it's just I think it's telling that you think

760
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: that's fixing the problem, Like I want to see another

761
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Speaker 2: button off.

762
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 5: Well, no, like that's for another less, that's for another

763
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: time that we're not doing that during the during the show,

764
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: the preview of week eighteen, and it's not for another

765
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Speaker 5: time to be roddy.

766
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the draft to Let's start

767
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: with the first overall pick, presented by Draft Kings Mark Sessler.

768
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: You are on the clock two of the games we

769
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Speaker 3: just talked about.

770
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Speaker 5: There's a lot of ways to go here, but I'm

771
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 5: going to go Jacksonville at Tennessee, which is kind of

772
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 5: like part B of that Saturday night AFC South matchup.

773
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 5: The Jacksonville Jaguars have been a real mess. I'm concerned

774
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: about them in this game because you know, you still

775
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 5: have Trevor Lawrence dealing with multiple injuries, but right now

776
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: it's they're listing it ash shoulder. He's practiced Wednesday on

777
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 5: a limited basis. I don't know what kind of version

778
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 5: we're going to get for him. They do have Christian kirkback,

779
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 5: he might be back. That would be a I think

780
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 5: his absence has really affected their offense a lot. Flip side, though,

781
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: one of the reasons I want to watch this game

782
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 5: is that there are a couple teams in the league

783
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: that we know are going to with coaching changes and

784
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 5: other stuff, vastly look different a week or two from now.

785
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 5: And I think this is the end of Ryan Tannehill.

786
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 5: This is the end of Derreck Henry and Tennessee. It's

787
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 5: very possible that DeAndre Hopkins is a very easy cut

788
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 5: post June one, he could be gone. And I really

789
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 5: wonder if there's a chance that Mike Rabel. There's whispers

790
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: that Mike Rabel could do the New England thing. He

791
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 5: could do a couple of things. It's like Mike Rabel

792
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 5: in this Tennessee experience, it's like he's been really good.

793
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 5: But their record in the regular season over the last

794
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: like twenty games has been abysmal. Unless you really believe

795
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 5: in Will Levis, you don't have a quarterback. Could you

796
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 5: be maybe could someone dream you into a New England

797
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 5: Patriots head coaching job. I don't know, but in general,

798
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 5: the Titans that we have known for four or five

799
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: years are over.

800
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

801
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: This was the year where they ceased to be a

802
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: playoff contender, and now they have an aging roster and

803
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: a coach it seems like he's got one foot out

804
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: the door. And it does for the Titans and their

805
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: fans like Grave Digger and everyone else. This was a

806
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: tough year to swallow, but you kind of begin to

807
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: reboot and ernest. Hopefully, if you believe in will Levis,

808
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: you have brighter days ahead. The Jags have no excuse here.

809
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: I mean, with everything I just said, the Titans are

810
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: a team and a down cycle playing out the string

811
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: of a lost season. And I know you're beat up

812
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: at quarterback, but you're a team that had a division

813
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: title last year. You won a huge playoff game with

814
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: an epic comeback, gave the Chiefs a scare the next round.

815
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: You cannot cannot blow this game. It would be a

816
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: massive setback for the organization. And I think Lawrence, even

817
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: though he hasn't been the player I think a lot

818
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: of us thought he would be this year, and he's

819
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: obviously not healthy, I think he finds a way and

820
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: plays a game that gets his team to the next step.

821
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, his status is looking up. He was at the

822
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 4: throwing portion of practice Jersy. So I think the biggest

823
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: question is you, right, Mark, what version do we get?

824
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: Kirk has been aiming, according to Doug Peterson, for this

825
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 4: state for a while, so I think they're hopeful he

826
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 4: helps a lot. Josh Allen the Daguars version, he's another

827
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: guy where look if he gets three sacks in this

828
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: game and gets up to twenty, I don't think he's

829
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: a crazy.

830
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a player that's like what Lamar did last week,

831
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: like having that last big week and put you over

832
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: the top.

833
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's important for them, I think, to get

834
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: into some sort of offensive rhythm, obviously to make the

835
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: playoffs because it would be a catastrophic loss, but also

836
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 4: because you got the Browns next week if you win

837
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: this game, and you better get ready. I'm with you

838
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 4: on Vrabel. I'm getting some mid career Sean Payton vibes,

839
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: where like there's a lot of Rabel chatter, and seems

840
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 4: like that chatter to me is coming from Mike Rabel.

841
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 4: So that's interesting that maybe he's not. There's been reporting

842
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: that he wasn't happy with the GM ran Carthon that

843
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: they gave him, that that was kind of an arranged marriage,

844
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: and he's a little ANTSI. They've lost a lot of

845
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: close home games. They're usually very competitive. They almost beat

846
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: the Seahawks a couple of weeks ago, they almost beat

847
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 4: the Colts home. They're just like always lose by three.

848
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 4: He sounded very edgy this week, asking why it's important

849
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: for him to win this week.

850
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: Because it sucks to lose.

851
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: Need to show you anything, Did you have another.

852
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 8: Thought or no, I'm just curious.

853
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: Well, he sucks.

854
00:37:51,600 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 8: Losing awful. That's why I want to win, because you

855
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 8: don't sleep. You want to win for the players that

856
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 8: they bluster tail.

857
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: That's it.

858
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: That is Gentry Estes, who was a calumnist for the Tennessee.

859
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: And it's almost like when your mother would call you

860
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: by your full name when you were in trouble as

861
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: a child. When the reporter is goes one of two ways, right,

862
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: It's either the reporter likes you and is having.

863
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: Some fun and he's like, yeah, Gentry, you know what.

864
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, or cause it sucks Gentry and it's like, uh, oh, Daniel,

865
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: get over here.

866
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 3: It's a thing. Then you get the do you have

867
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: anything else to add to that? Like to the reporter,

868
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: it's like, well.

869
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: The laser shooting out of his eyes if there's a

870
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 5: second part to that whole answer. And the one thing

871
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 5: I could see going through Mike Rabel's like mine was

872
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: I was a little harsh on this guy, and so

873
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 5: like he starts to ease up.

874
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 3: And get a little more.

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00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 4: Another question was asked and he went back to Gentry.

876
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: But it was a good job by Gentry because he

877
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 4: picked up on something very able, said how important it

878
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 4: was to win, and then just quickly asked the fob

879
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 4: why is it important?

880
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 2: He knew he was gonna go a have you ever

881
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: met a person name Gentry before?

882
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 4: No? But if I did, I would games that there

883
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 4: live in Tennessee. Uh, the Titans are five point underdog.

884
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 2: Like putting all the Gentries in a box in this game,

885
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 2: I am it must be it's a Southern name and

886
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: the Jaguars jentra.

887
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: Over under forty. I must say, Gentry pretty low.

888
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 5: The great question, I think you're onto something with the

889
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 5: Josh Allen and Greg Pff has ranked the Titans offensive

890
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 5: line dead last two years in a row. Oh yeah,

891
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 5: that tells you a lot why that offense is hard

892
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 5: to watch.

893
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 3: I like the Jaguars to get it done.

894
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: I do too, But if Lace is more hurt than

895
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: we even know and he doesn't play, all bets are off.

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Speaker 3: The crown is yours, all right, Greg.

901
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 4: I am so excited to me there was a clear

902
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: number one in this draft.

903
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: I knew you said you wanted it, and I'm happy

904
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: to give it to you.

905
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: That's very nice. Give me a break here, look very nice.

906
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: Give me a break. It's Bears.

907
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 3: It's Packers, Packers.

908
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 4: Sessler's forehead favored by three stupid minus one sixty two.

909
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 4: It's Nance, It's Romo on Bears. Packers got great. I

910
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 4: think it's because I love watching Jordan Love play right now,

911
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: and I've really enjoyed watching Justin Fields and the growth

912
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 4: of this Bears team. I believe that this is a

913
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 4: big Bears win here, not not like they win by

914
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 4: a lot. But I think they're gonna win this game.

915
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: I I considered locking this up, so I'm actually glad

916
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 4: Nick's Big Bears win. I just think they'll win if

917
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 4: they win this game. I think it means a lot

918
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: to them to knock the Packers out of the playoffs,

919
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 4: to solidify some of what the underlying numbers say right now.

920
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 4: For instance, waited DVA, they're the number seven team in

921
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: the NFL. Like it, and I kind of see that

922
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: that's a really good defense. And then this could be

923
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 4: Joe Berry's final you know, eg piece of art here.

924
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: Let Justin Fields, who's throwing the ball as well as

925
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: he ever has, go up and down the field anti

926
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: art in the defense just enough five. I think this

927
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 4: defense is really playing well and can at least slow

928
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: down the Packers. Although the Packers are getting healthier, all

929
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: their receivers Watson wis read all back at practice, which

930
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: is a big deal for them.

931
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: You're not gonna, We're not We've lost in for the

932
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 3: just I'll say, you're gone, clear out your desk.

933
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 5: That matters how healthy they're getting, because I think that

934
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 5: love is like thrived with a lot of those guys

935
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 5: in and out of the lineup and and it's he

936
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 5: right now has thirty four offensive touchdowns, which kind of

937
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 5: I don't know like that.

938
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: Mark, You know this has been on our joint radar

939
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: for years. Damn, Packers did it again. They got another

940
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: long term starting.

941
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: Only. I mean, you got to credit him. That's few

942
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: other quarterbacks have more offensive touchdowns than him this year.

943
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: Josh Allen, jillenher he has been on balance where they

944
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 4: got killed for that pick. I always defended it. I

945
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 4: always said the process isn't crazy. We'll have to see.

946
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I was going to give

947
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: the credit to Jordan Levin the Packers, but we must

948
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: give it where it truly belongs.

949
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: Greg.

950
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: Well, we argue, what's the point of having all these

951
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: arguments four years ago if we can't remember that?

952
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: No, I mean they they really did.

953
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: They held the fort, They waited out the Rogers melodrama,

954
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: even when Love wasn't lighting it up, when he got

955
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: a chance to play like they never they never moved

956
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: off the plan.

957
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 3: And hot, Damn, he is a player.

958
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: He's got thirty touchdown passes and thirty four total. As

959
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: you said, Mark, and I just see I see a

960
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: guy that might be scratching the surface here and could

961
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: become a true, true star in the league. But I

962
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: like what you're saying too about the Bears.

963
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 3: I think that.

964
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: And I saw our buddy Rank, big Bears man, down

965
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: in the dressing room before we came up today.

966
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: So did I. I must have just missed you, Love Love.

967
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 5: He was actually dressing, and he was getting dressed in

968
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: clothing and like people just go walk in there and

969
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: just walk around. Yeah, like he was actually going through

970
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 5: the process of like he was in.

971
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 3: There and just walks around.

972
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: No.

973
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 5: I mean just like there's a lot of just you know, jabbering,

974
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 5: but he was like doing that what you would what

975
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 5: you'd actually.

976
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 3: Do getting dressed in the dressing room. Good friend.

977
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: And I I reminisced with Rank about I was on

978
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: his Bears podcast in the off season and we're talking

979
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: about all the optimism around that team and and the

980
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: idea of you know, keeping fields and trading the number

981
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: one pick and building around him. And a year later

982
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: we're kind of having the same conversation where there's optimism

983
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: around the Bears and there's this idea to keep fields

984
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 2: and trade the number one o O picked a build

985
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: more around him. And I've been very loud and boisterous

986
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: on this pod the last few weeks about keeping fields.

987
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

988
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: And we talked about it Greg on our last show

989
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: that this game really does matter because I almost feel.

990
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: That I know it would cement it.

991
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: It would cement it if he lights up green Bay here, uh,

992
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: and he can against that Green Bay defense. It's all

993
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: set up for him.

994
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 5: I feel like we're being a little down on the

995
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: on the Packers just after a year ago.

996
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: I think this matters, like they were embarrassed.

997
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 5: What was one of the more indelible, indelible images of

998
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 5: the year last year was when when Aaron Rodgers throws

999
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 5: that interception the Lions win that Week eighteen game, and

1000
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers walking out out of Lambeau with a look

1001
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 5: in his eye where we were sitting together thinking like

1002
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 5: I think he's gone. We didn't know that for sure.

1003
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 5: He walked off the field like arm in arm with

1004
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 5: Randall Cotty. Yeah, and it's like, I just think this

1005
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: guy's gone. But now the same record Week eighteen, Jordan

1006
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 5: Love a year later, who's played better than Rogers did

1007
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 5: a year ago, in many ways, has the same chance.

1008
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 5: I don't think this team is just gonna go and

1009
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: lay an egg to the Bears in.

1010
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: Another NFC NFC North team.

1011
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 4: Like, no, they're not gonna lay down. It's a game.

1012
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: I just kind of like, I mean, the Packers are

1013
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: favored by three US.

1014
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: I just don't know.

1015
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 5: But I will say, like for all the Joe Berry stuff, like,

1016
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 5: and I know that there was you had. It was

1017
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: a rookie in there for the Vikings, But that was

1018
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: a positive performance for that defense.

1019
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: A week could go against the Vikings.

1020
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm doing it over the course of the season, and

1021
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 4: I I think it's very tough to run on this

1022
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: Bear team. So Aaron Jones has really added a lot

1023
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 4: of juice, and Lafleur has been cooking. He deserves a

1024
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 4: lot of the credit for making this all work. I

1025
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: think it's a really positive season for them, even if

1026
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: they lose this game. But it would be a bitter

1027
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 4: pill to swallow. You're right, Mark, to have the same

1028
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: thing happened.

1029
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: I mean, you can't. That's what the Cowboys do in

1030
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: the playoffs. You can't do that in Week eighteen if

1031
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: you're the Packers.

1032
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm up, I got two picks and uh,

1033
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: I gotta go hunt him. For just playoff games the

1034
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: matter right, games that have big, big ramifications.

1035
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 3: So let's we're running out of them.

1036
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start with hmm, let's go to the NFC South,

1037
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: not my favorite division in the world, but the Atlanta

1038
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: Falcons at the New Orleans Gentry and.

1039
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: An actual professional reporter that you're that you've now characterized.

1040
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: Saints given three and a half here this is the

1041
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: haddle on Barber Ryan booth.

1042
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 3: Three three seems like a lot.

1043
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: I think any professional broadcasting outfit you don't need three people.

1044
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: Two is fine. I thought you meant the point spread

1045
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 4: was a lot. I see you're seeing.

1046
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 5: They thought maybe Matt Ryan could go play quarterback for

1047
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 5: someone in a year where there's fifty.

1048
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: So don't think you need like three or even two

1049
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: people to do a show about football.

1050
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna make a more than three.

1051
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm gonna make an edit. You just

1052
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: cross off Tiki Barber better.

1053
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: How come you're every time I have any criticism of

1054
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: someone in the booth, you're like, oh, that's not right.

1055
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: You clutch your pearls. But now Tiki takes an arrow

1056
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: between the eyes.

1057
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 4: Like I watched this group a lot, and that's my opinion.

1058
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: But god forbid I say something bad about Jonathan Vilma,

1059
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: You're like, oh.

1060
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: God, no, Jonathan Vilma. It's just a personal reference, all right.

1061
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: But I think Matt Ryan's very solid and Tiki's always

1062
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: think of shooting from the hip stuff like you did.

1063
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: Tiki sounds like a guy that's on w f AN.

1064
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: He sounds like a guy who does a New York

1065
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: radio show. He's a week and is not totally which

1066
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 4: I'm on the rest of the league.

1067
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 3: I don't.

1068
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: I don't mind that as someone that grew up listening

1069
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: to that. But what you're saying to sometimes it's like.

1070
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: You were pointing to the same person to be taken

1071
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: out of the booth too, right now, who you who? Tiki? Yeah? Yeah,

1072
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: get Teky out of here, all right?

1073
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: But because of what well I'm saying, I don't you know,

1074
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: I'll let you know if I don't like somebody in

1075
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: the booth for some reason.

1076
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 3: With Greg, it's only Tiki, Oh, a New York Giant six.

1077
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: That's he there for those I don't think he was

1078
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: for either, actually, right, you know he represented there in

1079
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: twenty eleven. That was a midd Bradshaw grudge. So let's

1080
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: legacy grudge. All right, let's figure out this game. I

1081
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: can't because obviously the Falcons are a team that I

1082
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: do not believe in and haven't believed in all year,

1083
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: But they just had a chance here to to steal

1084
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: a playoff spots the Saints. What do you expect from

1085
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 2: the Saints here now, Derek Carr, I'll say this playing better?

1086
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: All really?

1087
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 2: Is the vibes all of a sudden, all the reporting

1088
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: around the Saints that's also been on my radar, We're

1089
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: starting to see articles pop up about like the Saints

1090
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: have stayed together in tough times and their leadership is

1091
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: to you know, has really helped keep this team together

1092
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: and trying times. Are the Saints going to somehow despite

1093
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: all the negativity around them and the struggles they've had,

1094
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: steal this division? Well, I think they got the right opponent.

1095
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: They're at home against an Atlanta team that I think

1096
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: is ready to go home.

1097
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 3: So I do like the Saints a lot in this game.

1098
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,240
Speaker 3: Is it enough? Does it get them in the playoffs

1099
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: with the win? Greg? No, they need the fabula, baby.

1100
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: They need the Bucks to lose to the Panthers to

1101
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: win the NFC South and they need to win this game.

1102
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: If the Bucks win that game, then they need either

1103
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 4: the Seahawks or Packers to lose and they could slide

1104
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 4: in as a seventh seed and we'd get to NFCA,

1105
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 4: which is fairly outrageous, fairly reasonable, and it means they'll

1106
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 4: still be alive, like going into Sunday Night football. They

1107
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: they might be the team that's and that means hoping

1108
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: to get in. Would they be playing each other in

1109
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: the wildcard round?

1110
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 3: No?

1111
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: Right, so that means an NFC South team would could

1112
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: be in the second round.

1113
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 3: Okay, never mind, because they.

1114
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: Are two teams. We don't need two of these teams. No,

1115
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: we certainly do not.

1116
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: So maybe the best thing for football fans is the

1117
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Falcons pull off an upset because they they're dead.

1118
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 3: That we're dealing with the Falcons. They're not.

1119
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: They're not dead.

1120
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: They're not.

1121
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: They can win the division at eight and nine, they

1122
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: win the three way time this division has broken my brain.

1123
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 5: What you really need is Tampa Bay to be Carolina. Yes,

1124
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 5: that just and that's that's the most likely scenario of

1125
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: all these. And then some of this other nonsense is

1126
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 5: I don't like this for the sake. I want to

1127
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 5: see what's gonna happen with Alvin Kamara. Like he left

1128
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 5: that game last week. He's got an ankle injury. Not

1129
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 5: wonderful for them. But Derek Carr, you were right, four

1130
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 5: straight games with multiple touchdown passes that time a career

1131
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 5: mark for himself. I mean, I think he's been healthy.

1132
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: Like I mean, the one thing about Derek Carr, like

1133
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: him or not, and I'm not a not a Derek

1134
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 5: Carr guy like, but.

1135
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: He plays through.

1136
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: He's played through a lot of pain in his in

1137
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 5: his career and he's been doing that most of this season.

1138
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 5: And I think that can explain some of the wonkiness

1139
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: with his play. But in general, what's happened of late,

1140
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 5: it should be happening right now at the most important

1141
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 5: time of the season. Guys like Juwan Johnson have stepped up.

1142
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 5: I I kind of feel like that matters a lot

1143
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 5: in this rivalry. These teams hate each other to be

1144
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 5: in New Orleans. It's like whether or not you're on

1145
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: this Like bus Saints fans, I know it's been a

1146
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 5: rough ride, Like show up to this one and be

1147
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 5: like knock out.

1148
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 4: The it goes they fall down a little early, like

1149
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 4: the negative energy and the booing and all that.

1150
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 5: But that's that's sort of like the booing seems a

1151
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: little more isolated to this season.

1152
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 4: That is just not a place where that was happening.

1153
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: I just mean there's a lot of pressure. You're right,

1154
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 4: they want the coach. I feel like it's it's everyone

1155
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 4: thinks Dennis Allen's totally safe. I feel like it's a

1156
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: it's a blowout, loser, coach goes home. I keep hearing

1157
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: Arthur Smith safe. Okay, you get blown out by the

1158
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 4: Bears in the Saints the last two weeks. Really shit,

1159
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: you're seven and ten. You're lucky to be there. Dennis

1160
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 4: Allen keep hearing he's safe. Okay, you lose to the Falcons.

1161
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: This is a rivalry. I think that means more than

1162
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 4: any other. You get swept by the Falcons, and that's

1163
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 4: how you end your season. I think the optics of

1164
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: how this game goes matters. But it seems very sainty

1165
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 4: to me to win this game, to get to nine

1166
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 4: to eight, and to not make the playoffs. It's just

1167
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: unsatisfying all around. You keep Tennis Allen and I was

1168
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 4: wrong before. I keep messing this up. The Saints need

1169
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: everyone to lose. They need the Seahawks to lose, the Cardinals,

1170
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: they need the Packers to lose. They're last in line.

1171
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 4: But if they if the Seahawks lose and the Packers lose,

1172
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: so they will find out at least if they get

1173
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: the first part of that. In the afternoon, part of

1174
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: me wonders, and again we why shoes plugged in told

1175
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: us that Smith is safe. There's other reporting out there

1176
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 4: that Arthur Smith is a good chance to return.

1177
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 3: Is there something we don't know about this?

1178
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 2: Is there something did Let's say, I'll just throw out

1179
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: a hypothetical, but Arthur Smith did have reservations about Desmond

1180
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: Ridder and it was kind of like, we want you

1181
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: to give it a try with him, and if it

1182
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, we promise you. Like, is there something

1183
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: else to the story that we don't know? Because based

1184
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: on just what we know, three seasons of essentially failure

1185
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: and no real growth should get a coach gone almost

1186
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time.

1187
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 3: Why would he be an outlier?

1188
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 5: The what two things I could point to is I

1189
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 5: think Arthur Blank's pretty patient. And secondly, when we were

1190
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: at the Super Bowl, a year ago, Arthur Blank was

1191
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 5: not far from us giving an interview, and what happened

1192
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 5: during some of that interview was he was so strongly

1193
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 5: in support of Desmond Ridder, like like no questions asked,

1194
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 5: Like we believe in this guy so much, and so

1195
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 5: I wonder if some of that is at play. But

1196
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith, it's been a disappointment. Like it hasn't been

1197
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: a complete and utter disaster. It hasn't been like a

1198
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: like a public embarrassment.

1199
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: This season, I agree, but this season's been close to it,

1200
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: Like after all that Ridder picking with him. Heineke is

1201
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: not healthy this week, He's not practicing really, and yet

1202
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 4: they're like holding out hope. So now it's gone from

1203
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 4: like we're gonna keep playing Ritter to like we hope

1204
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: we can get sixty percent Heinike to run back out there.

1205
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: And what's been embarrassing I think for Smith is they

1206
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: can't run the ball, like not consistently. And this is

1207
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 4: a team the Saints that you can run against. They

1208
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 4: ran for two twenty eight. I remember that game last

1209
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: time because they were both coming out of the by

1210
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: and I thought it would be very telling who comes

1211
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: out of the buy better and the Falcons ran all

1212
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 4: over them, and I thought, ooh, the Falcons are back,

1213
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 4: and that was like the last time they looked like

1214
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: that where they they could run the ball so well.

1215
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 4: So to me, they should be able to run in

1216
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: this game.

1217
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: Maybe it is an upset. We shall see.

1218
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: And Alvin kamaras Mark mentioned, he went down with that ankle.

1219
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: I don't know how high up on the ankle is

1220
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: this spring.

1221
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 3: They don't tell us.

1222
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: Not spotted in practice on Wednesday. I just did a

1223
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: quick search to see if we have any updates so

1224
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: far on Thursday. I don't see anything yet. But he

1225
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: has been good for them this year. And Carr I

1226
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: think needs a healthy Kamara to keep that offense.

1227
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 4: It's one seventy money line, by the way, here we

1228
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 4: go getting that in there.

1229
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 3: Like it.

1230
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: I will go with the Snake pis so another game

1231
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: that has playoff ramifications, even if it isn't necessarily competitive.

1232
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: Potentially, but you never know.

1233
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: With the Dallas Cowboys, Cowboys at Commanders eleven and five,

1234
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: Dallas coming off that dramatic, controversial win over the Lions

1235
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: twenty to nineteen, all the two point business, but I

1236
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: think it did overshadow that. I thought the Cowboys played

1237
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: a good game in a big spot against a very

1238
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 2: good Lions team. I don't want to wipe away that effort,

1239
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: and I don't want to wipe away that Dak is

1240
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 2: playing his best football in crucible moments down the stretch.

1241
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: And the Commanders are a bottom five team in the NFL,

1242
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: maybe a bottom three team in the NFL. Right now,

1243
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: you could argue they have the worst defense in the NFL,

1244
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: the worst pass defense in the NFL. The game is

1245
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 2: in Washington, where the Cowboys anywhere away from Jarrod World.

1246
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: They're simply not the same team. They've been a five

1247
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 2: hundred team this season, maybe even sub five hundred actually

1248
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: when I look at their eleven or five and undefeated

1249
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 2: at home.

1250
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: Right, so here we go. I mean, there are.

1251
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: No excuses, Mark, You need, absolutely need to hammer the

1252
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 2: Commanders and win the NFC East.

1253
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 3: Anything less would be a disaster.

1254
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: The idea of not winning this game and then going

1255
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: to the playoffs and going on the road just would

1256
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: be a disgusting idea for the Cowboys and their fans.

1257
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: Hammer the Commanders, steal this division from the Eagles, and

1258
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 2: you go into the playoffs hosting a home game and

1259
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 2: feeling like this year is different.

1260
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 5: This was the game a year ago where we were

1261
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 5: introduced to Sam Howell, who will be starting. After some

1262
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 5: back and forth last week with the Jacoby Brissett unable

1263
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 5: to go, Howell came in not too bad out of

1264
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 5: the gate, a disaster down the stretch. He's been sacked

1265
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 5: a league high sixty one times, the most interceptions in

1266
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 5: the league. This dall defense, you can run on them.

1267
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 5: I don't think that's a big factor in this game.

1268
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 5: I think you want to get turnovers. You want to

1269
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 5: kind of have one of these games where you go

1270
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 5: you kind of set the tone for the playoffs, and

1271
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 5: no defense beyond Washington allows more yards per game to

1272
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 5: wide receivers. You can take advantage of that. Ceedee Lamb

1273
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 5: is coming off a monster performance. I'm with you. Keep

1274
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 5: it clean, just just go take care of business. And

1275
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 5: like no Cowboys narratives coming out of this game.

1276
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 3: No, you just got to actay healthy. This is like

1277
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: that too.

1278
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 4: Tyler Smith got hurt, which you know. The Pro Bowl

1279
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 4: came out last night and he didn't make it, which

1280
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 4: is a little bit of a surprise for me. He's

1281
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: been fantastic. I don't think he's gonna play in this game. Look,

1282
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 4: this is something where they they should be cognizant of.

1283
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 4: Let's get it to Not like they're gonna give a

1284
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: pregame step speech talking about it, but it'd be nice

1285
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 4: if they got it to forty to seven and could

1286
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: just rest their starters in the fourth quarter and start

1287
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 4: looking ahead. You never know what kind of week you're

1288
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 4: gonna have. You might be playing on that Saturday. It

1289
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 4: might be a short week for you. And although they

1290
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: they stick the Cowboys on a Saturday, maybe Saturday night,

1291
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: there's no reason to think Saturday night that Washington is

1292
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 4: going to be competitive. It's sad for Jacoby Brissett that

1293
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 4: he got hurt in practice last week because otherwise he

1294
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 4: would be starting this game.

1295
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 2: And this is the end of an era. Ron Rivera

1296
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: is definitely going to be out the door. So the

1297
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: last game from Ron and maybe the last game as

1298
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: a head coach in the NFL period. We talked about

1299
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: defensive Player of the Year being wide open. Here Michael

1300
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: Parsons another guy. If you have the Lamar game, we'll

1301
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 2: call it the Lamar game. Even though he plays on

1302
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 2: the other side of the ball. He has thirteen sacks

1303
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: entering this game. If he goes off for three in

1304
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: this game, all of a sudden, his resume looks that

1305
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: much better. And I want to correct or wrong, especially

1306
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: because in a lot of ways you could look at

1307
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: his success this year, going back to this podcast, in

1308
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 2: certain comments made by Zuzzer, Ceedee Lamb was unbelievable in

1309
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: that Lions game, completely uncoverable. Every time they needed a

1310
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: big play, Cede Lamb made a huge play. And he

1311
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: is having quietly a historically great season at the position.

1312
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: Have we heard anything about him for Offensive Player of

1313
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: the Year. We haven't heard a thing.

1314
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,959
Speaker 3: I think Tyreek Hill like kind of took all years.

1315
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: It's hard to say that he's been better than Tyreek Hill.

1316
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: So he's just getting boxed out here. Here's some just

1317
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 4: data points from our research team.

1318
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: He needs one catch in Week eighteen to join the

1319
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: top ten of the most receptions in a season in

1320
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: NFL history.

1321
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: He's got one hundred and twenty two catches.

1322
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: He needs seventy two yards, which is going to get

1323
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 2: probably by the end of the first quarter in this game,

1324
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: to join the top ten of the most receiving yards

1325
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: in a season in NFL history.

1326
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: His season average. This year his average and by the.

1327
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: Way, I understand, there's an extra week played and you

1328
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: factor that in, but this is different. He has averaged

1329
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: one hundred and three yards per game this year, and

1330
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: if you want to even look closer at the numbers,

1331
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: you go from about the mid season point, maybe rund

1332
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: week seven, I would say he's probably about one hundred

1333
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: and twenty a game, scoring literally literally maybe with the.

1334
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: Exception of one week.

1335
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: He scores every week and sometimes multiple times a week.

1336
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: And I think he's not gonna win Offensive Player of

1337
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 2: the Year, but he certainly deserves to be in the

1338
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: conversation because when he came into the league for the Cowboys,

1339
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: there was huge expectations and he was immediately very good

1340
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: and then he kind of got a little bit better,

1341
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: and then he got a little bit but this is

1342
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: the year where he fully realized that number eighty eight

1343
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: potential and they have a superstar, top three wide receiver

1344
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: in the league in my opinion.

1345
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Detroit had no answers for him. Like when

1346
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 5: you watch the Ravens offense, it's like teams don't know

1347
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 5: what they're doing to stop the Ravens. But like Ceedee

1348
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 5: Lamb put that same kind of magic on the Lions

1349
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 5: last week, and I think it helps when you've got

1350
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 5: like Dak Prescott and Lamb connecting the way to do.

1351
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 5: Like the one throw, the ninety plus yard touchdown for

1352
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb was one of Dak Prescott's greatest throws of

1353
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 5: all time, one of the more magical quarterback throws you'll

1354
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 5: see an entire season. Maybe the best player of the year,

1355
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 5: but it's like it takes Ceedee Lamb being in the

1356
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: right place also making the play as well.

1357
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: He's incredible.

1358
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, people kind of got on the Cowboys because Jefferson's

1359
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: in that draft, chases in that draft, and they got

1360
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 4: to their superstar status first. But you're right, sixteen hundred

1361
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: and fifty one yards the Cowboys, by the way, thirteen

1362
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 4: point favorites in this game. That doesn't even feel funny.

1363
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 4: Line minus eight hundred, which is like, what are we

1364
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 4: doing here?

1365
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: People? Just why bother?

1366
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: By the way, just from a historical standpoint, when the

1367
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: Cowboys do get to the playoffs, whether it's the division

1368
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: champion or as a wild card, and it's probably gonna

1369
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: be a division champion, I do get a little remember

1370
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner Larry fitz in eight when they just tore

1371
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 2: through the playoffs. Why didn't you picture Dak and Lamb

1372
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 2: just being nuclear this month?

1373
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, the good version of the Cowboys like that. Yes,

1374
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 5: I can picture could.

1375
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 3: Win to the games.

1376
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: Sure we can talk about the ghosts of the Cowboys,

1377
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 2: but I if we do believe this team's a little

1378
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: bit different. Lamb's one of the reasons why they're different

1379
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: this year. This guy is outrageous. I mean, I love

1380
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 2: des Bryant too. I mean, he was a great number

1381
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: eighty eight, but I think CD is their best receiver

1382
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 2: since Irvin, and it matters to have true Hall of

1383
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: Fame level players like that.

1384
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 3: I agree. All right, let's keep moving. It is back

1385
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: to you, Greg.

1386
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna take the Buccaneers minus four and a

1387
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 4: half at the Panthers money lines minus two twenty five.

1388
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: I mean Buccaneers an win game.

1389
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: Get to see a team win a division, a surprising

1390
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 4: team if they can do it, or see everything crumble

1391
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: and collapse in a surprising fashion.

1392
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: That's Week eighteen to me.

1393
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 4: These are the types of wiki team games you get,

1394
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 4: like the culmination of what they've been building towards. Because

1395
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna win a playoff game, although

1396
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 4: the Eagles would be a pretty winnable matchup for them.

1397
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 4: I want to see Baker bounce back, although it's more

1398
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: his health. I just am a little worried about he's

1399
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 4: missing practice this week and they're not like totally locking

1400
01:01:59,760 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: in there.

1401
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: He's playing.

1402
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 4: But he did speak to the media, which is usually

1403
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 4: a good sign. He had a rib injury, which may

1404
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: explain his trumples in that game, but I didn't even

1405
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 4: think he played that bad once I watched it.

1406
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 3: They just they never had the ball.

1407
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 4: Their defense is not good, by the way, Like that's

1408
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 4: one of the problems with Todd Bowles is they have

1409
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: all these stars on defense. Defense it's a mediocre defense,

1410
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 4: and they were terrible last week. And I thought Mayfield

1411
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 4: played quite well in the second half. The game was

1412
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 4: kind of over, but he made a lot of really

1413
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: good throws, so I don't think the injury affected him.

1414
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: I think they will be chastened from that experience. They

1415
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: also will know that the Panthers gave them a hard

1416
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 4: time just a few weeks ago in Tampa and did

1417
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 4: not take it too lightly, whereas the Panthers are just

1418
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 4: playing out the string there and coming off one of

1419
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 4: the most depressing games of the entire season getting shut

1420
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 4: out twenty six nothing to.

1421
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: The CJ. Beth Jaguars.

1422
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 4: And that's why, for the first time in a while,

1423
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 4: despite having a sterling record, this week, I do forecast

1424
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 4: a little rain here, Oh Carolina. I think the Bucks

1425
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: blow this team out. I was gonna lock it up,

1426
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 4: but I'm giving Nick a little late Christmas present by

1427
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 4: going for the Bills. The Buccaneers roll Baker with four touchdowns.

1428
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: They cover that four and a half. So brave.

1429
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: Well, actually, every single rain Maker would be equally brave

1430
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 4: because it's fifty to fifty according to right.

1431
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: But if you were gonna be locking against the Panthers,

1432
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 2: that would have not a great look for a fifteen

1433
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: to two.

1434
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 3: Star fair fair.

1435
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 4: That was in my head too, But rain maker wise,

1436
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 4: I started this season by drafting the under on Carolina

1437
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: as my number one overall pick in the Winds over underdraft.

1438
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: I piled up a bunch.

1439
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 2: Of shots out of your mouth.

1440
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I piled up a bunch of wins in the

1441
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 4: Locks going against them early before everyone knew they.

1442
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 3: Were trash bags. Let's wrap it up some rain.

1443
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: I I if you put a gun to my head,

1444
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 5: I would not remember what I did in week one

1445
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 5: In terms of my picks to Greg, it's all categorized

1446
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 5: rope to size, like it's all there in the data

1447
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 5: internal database.

1448
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1449
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: Did you know that Greg's children squared off against each

1450
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: other and that I did hear about championship?

1451
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I believe it was sort of a blowout, right,

1452
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 3: But that's not the point. Yeah.

1453
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 2: The point is that out of like a twelve team league,

1454
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: Greg also had his children. It's like it's like when

1455
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: you hear about and your children have Japanese heritage, like

1456
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 2: the like how organized everything is and how you kind

1457
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 2: of you look at like the school systems there and

1458
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,439
Speaker 2: everything like you have everything completely on lock right now, Greg,

1459
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: with your picks and your kids and the football universe,

1460
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: you're in complete control of it right now.

1461
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: There's a lot of luck involved here. And Walker did

1462
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 4: it all by himself, which I'm very proud.

1463
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 3: And did you make it off?

1464
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 4: He came in second? You told him you loved him

1465
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: less though, right, No, I did not. I did not.

1466
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: In fact, we knew as a household no one was

1467
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: going to mention the finals, say nothing happened because of

1468
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 4: the result. If he had won, there had been a

1469
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: lot of condversation. But since he lost, we just have

1470
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: to give it a day or two for him to

1471
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: emotionally well recover.

1472
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: I think this is a great rain maker. I'm feeling good.

1473
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: And for those that maybe overspent and Santa was expensive

1474
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: this year in households, this might be a nice way.

1475
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: But of course we do not say what to do.

1476
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: We don't tell her. Yeah, I would never do that.

1477
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: This is a quick episode here because we do have

1478
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: to keep moving, but we got to have it. It's

1479
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: a very special episode of temper Bee talking. It's kind

1480
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: of a satellite episode. It's temper Be tossing, and you

1481
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: know we we were told to stand down for a

1482
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: few days. In the story temper Be Tossing. He in

1483
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: the waning moments of that twenty six nothing lost to

1484
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 2: the Jaguars got into it with some fans. It's the

1485
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: owner of an NFL team got into it with some

1486
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: fans and in a moment of frustration, tossed the remnants

1487
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: of a dren with some ice at either offan or

1488
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 2: a group of fans, threw the cup down and walked

1489
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: away right with his general manager right next to him.

1490
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 2: This was all caught on video, because everything is caught

1491
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: on video. And after a couple of days of radio silence,

1492
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: the NFL find Tepper three hundred thousand dollars for what

1493
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: the league called his quote unacceptable conduct during the loss.

1494
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: And here's a quote from the league. All NFL personnel

1495
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: are expected to conduct themselves at all times in ways

1496
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: that respect our fans and favorably reflect on their team

1497
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: and the NFL. And then Tepper again, after multiple days

1498
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: of radio silence.

1499
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 3: Out of Charlotte, this is when he was talking.

1500
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: Now, this is an episode of Temper Bee Talking, which

1501
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 2: is not the same as Temper b tossin satellite app. Dean, Please.

1502
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 3: Welcome to anpisode of teen be Talking.

1503
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: He says, I should have let NFL stadium security handle

1504
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: any issues that arose. I respect the NFL's Code of

1505
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: conduct and accept the league's discipline for my behavior. He

1506
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 2: said he is passionate about his team but regrets his behavior,

1507
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 2: but no apology from Temper. This is one of the

1508
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 2: worst years for any team in the history of this podcast,

1509
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 2: and this is kind of a fitting.

1510
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 4: Cheery on top that's well said. Three hundred thousand dollars.

1511
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a lot of money for just throwing

1512
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: a drink, and yet it could have been a lot more.

1513
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 4: And I feel like the ultimate punishment is, like, this

1514
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 4: is what he is going to be remembered for for

1515
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: a long time, yeah, until proven otherwise, not just the

1516
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 4: Brice Young trade, not just how bad this season has been,

1517
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 4: but like the punishment is like poor Panthers fans are

1518
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 4: the butt of jokes and this this will live on

1519
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: past this week, past this year.

1520
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, like there's it's bad, been bad football. It's been

1521
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 5: bad front office work. It's been bad in terms of

1522
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 5: the stories you're hearing about the actual vibe behind closed doors.

1523
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 5: I member as a kid, I went to a Mets

1524
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 5: game with my friend Matt Lusting, and we'd like, some

1525
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 5: father that worked somewhere else got us these special seats

1526
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 5: and we were right over the left field and Kirk

1527
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 5: Gibson of the Dodgers was playing down there, and we

1528
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 5: spent the entire game just square like shouting at Kirk Gibson,

1529
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 5: f you, Kirk Gibson, fuck you.

1530
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 3: And what happened.

1531
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 5: What happened ultimately was around the seventh or eighth inning, finally,

1532
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 5: because I knew he could hear us, he finally looked

1533
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 5: up and just said you. And it was like, if

1534
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 5: you're a player, I get the boiling over, and if

1535
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 5: you're a coach that happens too, because you're right there.

1536
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 3: But it's like, I'm on owner. You can't like owner

1537
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 3: can't do it. I feel like it's a right of passage.

1538
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: I remember in the in the bad old days for

1539
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: the Yankees in the early nineties, me and my cousin

1540
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: Matt went to an otherwise completely empty upper deck of

1541
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 2: right field in old Yankee Stadium and Mel Hall was

1542
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: the right fielder of the Yankees, and for in like

1543
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: the seventh inning of a twelve to two game, we

1544
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 2: were just going bell and finally he just looks up

1545
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: at us and just like holds his arms.

1546
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 3: Like like what really, I don'llo But Kirk Gibson should

1547
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 3: have done that. You were children, but you shouldn't be yelling.

1548
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be.

1549
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 5: I kind of think, no, there was no there was

1550
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 5: some other parent that was wasn't even our parent, But

1551
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 5: I think he should have done that, and I don't.

1552
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with a fit with a

1553
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 5: player doing that. In that situation.

1554
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 4: But if your owner, you just can't be well, that's

1555
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 4: way different. I'm saying to drink. Throwing a drink is owner.

1556
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: Back like an explodit. That's that's what I mean.

1557
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 4: There's that Jets player who's who I love. It was

1558
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: like a new meme of just pointing out all the

1559
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: people in the Browns crowd that that he's saying, f

1560
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: you too, that's a that's a beautiful.

1561
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 3: Well they're getting wet. That's fun.

1562
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 4: Throwing the drink on the person is he's probably a

1563
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 4: little concerned he might get suit or something. Yeah, that's

1564
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 4: the other thing at risk. And just to put a

1565
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 4: good button on the whole thing.

1566
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: As someone who's lived through it, like when you have

1567
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: ownership that you don't have faith in, necessarily you realize

1568
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 2: that that is the key to everything. Everything starts at

1569
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: the top of organizations, and if it's dysfunctional or or

1570
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: there's just not a strong base up top, that can

1571
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: lead to a year.

1572
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 3: Or not years, decades of issues.

1573
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 2: So if I'm a Panthers fan, and I don't need

1574
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,600
Speaker 2: to tell you Panthers fans, you're very nervous about the

1575
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: trajectory right now over the organization.

1576
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 5: We also got to like convince a top level coach

1577
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 5: in theory to come coach this team.

1578
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 3: Good luck with that, Joana Marc. Yeah.

1579
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on there. All right, let's

1580
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 2: keep moving. Mark, You're up, am I win Bucks, Just

1581
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: win that game?

1582
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: All right. I'm gonna go Eagles at Giants.

1583
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 5: There's I'm taking one of these late gams because they've

1584
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 5: spread this this late around in.

1585
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: A there's a lot of late games.

1586
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 4: Then well it's kind of kind of half and half

1587
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 4: six early seven late. Yeah, so I'm going Giants or

1588
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 4: Giants hosting the Eagles.

1589
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 5: Let's see here. Uh, let's take a look at the

1590
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 5: spread you handled at Greg Why get involved with this game?

1591
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: Here?

1592
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: Let me tell one more story about yelling at people. Sure,

1593
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 2: I used to go to a lot of preseason games,

1594
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 2: like my dad at his company. Those tickets would float around. Yeah,

1595
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: because of fans have to buy preseason games with their

1596
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 2: season tickets, so there always be Jet preseason games floating around.

1597
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 3: So I would go to these games.

1598
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: Went to one of the games with my buddy Bob,

1599
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 2: who I do throwback podcast with, and we were sitting

1600
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: the first row right behind the Jets bench. And there

1601
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: was a reserve offensive tackle I don't even know if

1602
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: he made the team named Jonathan Hagood, and we were

1603
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,440
Speaker 2: just screaming in the fourth quarter.

1604
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: Good, how good is it? Gods?

1605
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: And again Jonathan Hagood wherever you are. Good Man looks

1606
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: at us and he's like, what is wrong with you?

1607
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1608
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 3: All right? I gave you enough time there, Greg, that

1609
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: was a little filibuster. I've found him. I have found it.

1610
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 5: Actually, the Eagles are giving up five points a minus

1611
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 5: two thirty money line in a giant.

1612
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: That feels fair to me. That's spread.

1613
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 5: You could have tweeted him today, So that's what's different.

1614
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 5: Back then, it was your only access to him was

1615
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 5: like you have to shout at them.

1616
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 4: It is there at some point when you become an adult,

1617
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 4: you realize, oh, these are other humans. I should probably

1618
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 4: not be doing this unless it's really warranted.

1619
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: I think you're aisode.

1620
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: It was also before social media and stuffing the idea

1621
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,160
Speaker 2: of even connecting with these things and people, and it's

1622
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: just a different world now. You're right, Dane, Thank you.

1623
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: All right, we're signing off for the day. I can't

1624
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: find any record.

1625
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,520
Speaker 5: The Giants the only team the Eagles have beaten since November.

1626
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 5: I wow, if you think about it, I mean, and

1627
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,440
Speaker 5: you know, we dug into them on our last episode,

1628
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 5: and it's like it does feel like an inflection point,

1629
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 5: like it's not just this game, but it's what happens

1630
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 5: in the playoffs and how it looks. I was thinking

1631
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 5: though later because and not to circle back entirely and

1632
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 5: all that, but the idea that like Sirianni would get

1633
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 5: canned kind of blows my mind because we're talking about

1634
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 5: a coach that's gonna have three straight playoff berths, just

1635
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 5: went to a super Bowl. Things are a little up

1636
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 5: and down, but that feels a little dramatic for how

1637
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 5: the Eagles do business in general. But this Eagles team

1638
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 5: is just not a good team right now. Like their

1639
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 5: defense has been a disaster. They have a minus seven

1640
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 5: turnover differential, which would mark the lowest enfranchise history for

1641
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 5: an Eagles team that also made the playoffs. And it's

1642
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 5: looked like it and some of it obviously has come

1643
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 5: from Jalen Hurts. But Jalen Hurts, like Greg you pointed

1644
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 5: this out, like he's not this guy that you can

1645
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 5: just focus on.

1646
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 3: Is the entire problem.

1647
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 5: I think the giveaways have been an issue, but last

1648
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 5: week he had PFF's second highest score for a quarterback.

1649
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: I mean the offense played it. Wow. The offense was

1650
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 3: not a problem last week.

1651
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 5: So it's like, how about just clean it up against

1652
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 5: the Giants and hush some of this nonsense and we'll see.

1653
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 5: But I think there's no doubt that you talk about

1654
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 5: these other teams that have gone through some adversity, if

1655
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 5: the Eagles do wind up winning a couple of playoff games,

1656
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 5: you'd have to look at them and say they went

1657
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 5: through a lot to get to make that happen, right.

1658
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: It would show an adverse a response to adversity that

1659
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 4: they just haven't since they lost that first game that

1660
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 4: started this this streak. I guess it was against the

1661
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 4: Cowboys that they they just are soft. They're a soft defense.

1662
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 4: It makes no sense. They tried to load up against

1663
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: the run last week against Arizona. They were playing five

1664
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,560
Speaker 4: man defensive lines, as Boat kind of pointed out, and

1665
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:36,799
Speaker 4: they got steamrolled. So that's the that's the whole problem.

1666
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 4: It's all the defense. I know her to struggle a

1667
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 4: little late in games. They're not excellent, but we wouldn't

1668
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 4: be having these conversations about them collapsing if the defense

1669
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 4: just wasn't embarrassing, and who knows. Saquon could be his

1670
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 4: last game for the Giants. Sounds like he's cooled off

1671
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 4: the last three weeks, fighting through some injuries after a

1672
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 4: really good season overall. But they could run the ball

1673
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 4: on them. And then it's Jalen hurts versus the win.

1674
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 4: Probably Martindale's last game. He's got to go out with

1675
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 4: a flurry and hurts his numbers that they've been out

1676
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 4: there from next ten stats this week versus the zero

1677
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: blitz teams zero blitz him more than any in the league,

1678
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 4: and he hasn't handled it well. And that's what the

1679
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 4: Giants like to do. So if you told me this

1680
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 4: game is up for grabs in the final few minutes,

1681
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 4: it would not.

1682
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: Any confidence around the Eagles right now is just kind of,

1683
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 2: you know, hoping for the best rather than watching them

1684
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: week to week and knowing this team that's just struggling.

1685
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: So the Giants on paper seem like a good, get

1686
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: right opponent, but also the Giants at home, you know

1687
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: Dable's gonna have them ready to go. They're gonna have

1688
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: to earn it. We'll see how it goes. By the way,

1689
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 2: he was Jay Hagood. He turned fifty last August. Happy

1690
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: birthday to Jay Hagood, the.

1691
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 5: Same age as as I am. So it's right, So

1692
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 5: that would have been How does that make any sense?

1693
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 2: It was in nineteen ninety must have been like the

1694
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: ninety seven or ninety eight preseason because that's when he

1695
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 2: was on the Jets. So you weren't like a young

1696
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: child seven Okay, okay, it was yelling how good as

1697
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: it gets.

1698
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean, just Sully.

1699
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 4: It a thug basically more or less Tyrod.

1700
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: By the way, starting this game.

1701
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 4: You did not start that other Eagles Giants game when

1702
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 4: it ended up pretty close.

1703
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 3: He closed that game.

1704
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 4: That's where Devido they are a totally different team with Tyrod.

1705
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: They have a legitimate quarterback. All right, Marks neaks to you.

1706
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 5: All right, I'll take the Browns Bengals matchup. You know,

1707
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 5: a week ago it looked like it could have been intriguing.

1708
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 5: It is not going to be intriguing in terms of

1709
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 5: the stakes. The Bengals eliminated.

1710
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: All these Sinci games on the schedule a few weeks ago.

1711
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 2: That look hot turning out not to be.

1712
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 5: No, and they look like they could have been a

1713
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 5: fun playoff team and it's that's not the case. Uh,

1714
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 5: Cleveland's sitting Joe Flacco and a flock of others and

1715
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 5: they need it.

1716
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 3: I do want a flocko a flaco.

1717
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 5: I wanted to do a little if we could sure

1718
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 5: if we have the sound and if Greg doesn't mind,

1719
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 5: Greg Go's runs the rest Stop uh program, but I

1720
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 5: have I want a little spin off called the rest

1721
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 5: Stop vending Machine.

1722
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 3: You know, like when you when you go in the

1723
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 3: rest stop.

1724
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 5: If it's if it's not a total like sky it got,

1725
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 5: you can buy something. There's the Browns right now if

1726
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 5: you think about it. Yes, Thursday Night football was their

1727
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 5: last game, so between then and now in Sunday ten days.

1728
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 5: Amari Cooper, who was a little banged up, didn't play

1729
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 5: for another.

1730
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 3: Four days before that.

1731
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 5: So that is extended rest for a Marque Cooper. Everyone

1732
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 5: else is getting rest this week. They don't play for

1733
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 5: another week. That's seventeen days of rest and about twenty

1734
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 5: one days for Amari Cooper.

1735
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 3: That's a nice rest.

1736
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 5: Now, do you trust Cleveland if we're going to be

1737
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 5: all up into arms about the Ravens showing up flat

1738
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 5: after like a two week rest like good team that

1739
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 5: has maybe the coach of the year, But how does

1740
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 5: the coach of the year handle a twenty one?

1741
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Where's the veting machine coming into this?

1742
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 2: I just I gave it a different name so I

1743
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't he's got Oh no, that's just an episode of

1744
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: rest Stop. You got to integrate the vending machine in

1745
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 2: some way. Are they now got eating stale twinkies?

1746
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 5: You just stole the ip then, like we I try

1747
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 5: not to stamp on the same name. If he didn't enjoy.

1748
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 2: It, you just would, I asked, would have been totally cool,

1749
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 2: a lot of rest but then to give it a

1750
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 2: little bit of a different name.

1751
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 5: But then do the segment that feels this is the

1752
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 5: first thing I thought of, like a restop was like

1753
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 5: a little vending machine. I thought I'd just throw that

1754
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 5: on there.

1755
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: What about the bathroom?

1756
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 5: Not the first thing I'd want to like discuss at, right,

1757
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 5: But you're right, that's why you go to a rest up.

1758
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 3: Good app, Good app. I do think there's stressed out

1759
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 3: about the show, and I'm checking some injuries.

1760
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 2: There is rest Stop has gotten versatility because I do

1761
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm on the corner of too much rest stop. I

1762
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: do not want Joe Flacco disappearing for two weeks two

1763
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 2: and a half weeks here, right. I like Joe Flacco

1764
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 2: staying in the mix. But again, it's the right play

1765
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 2: that you keep the big man up right because you

1766
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: got big games to play ahead.

1767
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: How exciting is that? Mark? It's interesting to see who

1768
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 3: they play. Nothing better than having playoff games to look

1769
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: forward to.

1770
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 4: I kind of remember it favored by seven in minus

1771
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 4: two ninety eight, so that is a reflection of the

1772
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 4: Browns sitting all their starters and the Bengals not. Although

1773
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 4: I figure what t Higgins is like banged up. They're

1774
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 4: not going to force wait is Garrett to play week

1775
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 4: week a team, but damar Chase, it sounds like he'll

1776
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 4: play like they're they're trying to win. The Bengals are

1777
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 4: zero to five in the division. I think they want

1778
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 4: to win one game before.

1779
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 2: I wonder what they'll do with Garrett because he has

1780
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 2: hardware on the line. Potentially he does, but he's I

1781
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: wouldn't play the City band to six in sacks right now,

1782
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: but I know the awards about other things.

1783
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 5: But I wonder what he'll want to play. It would imagine.

1784
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 5: But he's got this like band around his shoulder.

1785
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 3: Still.

1786
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna play in this game, all right, Greg,

1787
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: I think it's back to you that right is Mark.

1788
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,559
Speaker 4: I've taken two, so you have taken two, all right,

1789
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 4: So I will take another early game. I will take

1790
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 4: Vikings at Lions. Lions are favored by three and a half.

1791
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 4: The money line is minus two of five. They're sending

1792
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 4: uh Joe Davis and Daryl Johnson, Moose Pam Oliver, putting

1793
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 4: them on a plane.

1794
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 3: I think that's their.

1795
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 4: Number thing, to put them over there, probably flying right now.

1796
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 4: Number three team. The Lions have said they're playing the

1797
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 4: wit makes sense in a week where everyone's sitting guys,

1798
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: the Lions are not, and they don't really have anything

1799
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 4: to play for, so they're going the other out. This

1800
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 4: is one situation where I don't have like crazy hot take.

1801
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: I think that's okay too, if that's what Dan Campbell

1802
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 4: thinks his best and Belichick was interesting when he would

1803
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 4: add the opportunities and I think this is the right

1804
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 4: way to do it. He would do it sometimes and

1805
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 4: he wouldn't do it other times. It would depend on

1806
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 4: factors of health and how the team.

1807
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: Is playing and Wes Welker what he thinks about that

1808
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: plan blew out that acl that one.

1809
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 4: It's it's really unfortunate. But I just think, like, I

1810
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,959
Speaker 4: don't know, it's ball and you can't. You can't totally.

1811
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 4: If you think it's best to play and try to

1812
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 4: win and get this back, then that's fine.

1813
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 3: There. The Vikings defense has struggled. Maybe they can.

1814
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 4: Maybe he'll do the thing where he plays the starters

1815
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 4: for a little while and then takes him out, and

1816
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 4: then this line is gonna look silly because the Vikings

1817
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 4: should be favored. Nick Mollins is back as the starter,

1818
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 4: and uh, I think Jared Goff showed a lot a

1819
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago when he played this defense, and

1820
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 4: they just had answer after answer. The Vikings defense entered

1821
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 4: Week fifteen third in the league and EPA play or

1822
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 4: fifth in the league. They were the number five defense

1823
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: on the league for the season. The last three weeks

1824
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: they are second to last. They've been terrible. All this

1825
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 4: talk about the quarterbacks, it's like, I get it, that

1826
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 4: also makes sense, but their defense has kind of turned

1827
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 4: into a pumpkin. Maybe it was a little a little

1828
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 4: uh I don't know what the word is. What word

1829
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 4: would you use on a pig?

1830
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like fake, like uh gazi charade. It was a

1831
01:21:58,600 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 3: charade a little bit.

1832
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 5: I mean, but in the year with like like they

1833
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 5: were trading players away before the season. I think Brian

1834
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 5: Flores did a pretty great tea, did an incredible job

1835
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 5: and even overall at work.

1836
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 4: But it's like you can only win maybe with schemes

1837
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 4: so long they might get the Lions, might get Alee

1838
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 4: McNeil back and the lie the Vikings are not out

1839
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 4: of the playoffs.

1840
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 3: What about that? Nope, there's a chance. How should we

1841
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 3: uh yeah, because that's why it's the path. They have

1842
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 3: the team around the NFL, so we should know.

1843
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 5: What they need to all a path I'd call it

1844
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 5: like a path with like machine guns firing.

1845
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: But they have not been eliminated. They have a lot

1846
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: of good tie breakers on their side. They need to win.

1847
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 4: They need the Packers to lose, they need the Seahawks

1848
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 4: to lose, and they need either the Saints or the

1849
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 4: Bucks to lose. So basically, look at it like it

1850
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 4: there's four teams, it's not that crazy. There's four teams

1851
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 4: in line for that.

1852
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 3: Pasidonto Rico was like laying up for us.

1853
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's crazy enough. I think winning this game

1854
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 4: might be hard enough, especially if the Lions really try.

1855
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 4: But there's four teams in line for the wild card.

1856
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 4: Packers are first, Seahawks are second, Saints or Bucks are third,

1857
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 4: and then the Vikings are fourth.

1858
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: Kind of like in the later levels of the old

1859
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,719
Speaker 2: Super Mario Brothers when you get to Bowser's Headquarters and

1860
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: you have to make the seven jumps in a row,

1861
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:14,799
Speaker 2: and then the big.

1862
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: Fireball wheels going around, and then.

1863
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: There's another fireball, and then you got to get under

1864
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: that and you have all those.

1865
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: Like what are those? Remember the brown things? What are

1866
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 3: they called? The I didn't get to Bowser's headquarters. You didn't.

1867
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 3: I don't know. I wasn't my.

1868
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 5: Favorite game, but I watched people play it a lot.

1869
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 5: They're like Mario, I did not like it. I just

1870
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 5: was like I had other interests, other diversions, other Nintendo

1871
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 5: things I liked, Like what Hidigrius was one game? You know,

1872
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 5: the minute like Techmobile came out, little little obvious, But

1873
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 5: what about the hockey where you could pick the fat

1874
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 5: guy the thin guy? You always go one of each? Yeah,

1875
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,759
Speaker 5: you got to pick up ice hockey. It was coaching,

1876
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 5: learning about coaching.

1877
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: You could you could win with two fat guys in

1878
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 2: a little two fat he's in a little I like

1879
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: to have a mid guy there though.

1880
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: Mid guy keeps things balanced. All right, I.

1881
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: Am, I'm up, and uh this one will be.

1882
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: No Stafford. There's like forty two minutes of fat.

1883
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 2: You know, let's take about how about this, Let's take

1884
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 2: a break and then we'll finish.

1885
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 4: Finish only one game that matters left, all right, we'll

1886
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 4: be right back.

1887
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. We have a few more games

1888
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: to hit here Week eighteen. I will start with, Man,

1889
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 2: this was the game that I really had circled on

1890
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: the calendar for so long, you know, at least before

1891
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: the season started.

1892
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 3: Jet Jets at Patriots.

1893
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: There's been so many things that went wrong with this

1894
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Jets season, and we don't need to relitigate it, but

1895
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 2: it has been a crushing year in so many ways,

1896
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: and one that I think fundamentally has changed me as

1897
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: a fan. When Rogers went down four plays in, I

1898
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 2: think it, I think and we'll see, I think it

1899
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 2: extinguished the last what made me a little different as

1900
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 2: a Jets fan. Of that I always had some optimism

1901
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 2: that there was something good around the corner.

1902
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 3: I don't.

1903
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a team that is just

1904
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 2: destined to always destroy me now until they prove otherwise.

1905
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 3: I always looked at this.

1906
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 2: Game in Foxborough with Aaron Rodgers as like they'd be

1907
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 2: clinching the playoffs, or they would be winning a division

1908
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 2: and it would be beating Belichick on the road and

1909
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: slaying all these demons.

1910
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 3: Instead, they're kind of a joke, and they're going in

1911
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: the wrong direction.

1912
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: And they just got blown out by Cleveland a Thursday night,

1913
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: and the owner, for whatever reason, gave everybody a pass

1914
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 2: this year. And and we'll see what happens when they

1915
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: run it back with the same gang and a potentially

1916
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 2: healthy Rogers next year. And now it's just playing out

1917
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: the string against a dreadful Patriots team, which is somehow,

1918
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: and this tells you a lot. Getting two points against

1919
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,520
Speaker 2: the Jets, Zach Wilson has played his final game. That is, yeah,

1920
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 2: as a Jet, ninety nine point nine percent. Sure he

1921
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 2: does never he never got cleared from concussion protocol, So

1922
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 2: his concern internally that the Jets would get him hurt,

1923
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 2: he was absolutely correct. If that's indeed the true story

1924
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: because he got his head beat in and then has

1925
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: been basically out of the mix now. And maybe he

1926
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: wasn't rushing to come back either, and I wouldn't if

1927
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: I were him now. The Patriots, Greg, this is a

1928
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:20,679
Speaker 2: big game for them in terms of the draft standing

1929
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 2: really for both, but especially the Patriots because the way

1930
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 2: the schedule sets up here, New England finds a way

1931
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: to lose to the Jets, which they never do. They

1932
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: never lose to the Jets, but if they somehow do

1933
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: find a way to lose here, they most likely get

1934
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: one of the top two quarterbacks in this draft. Right

1935
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: they are locked the way the schedule has played out

1936
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 2: and last week helped them.

1937
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,879
Speaker 3: If they win, then they kind of fall.

1938
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 2: Back potentially into a more crowded mix, but they have

1939
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: from the tank perspective, which I don't love to focus on,

1940
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 2: but given what the trajectory of their season has been

1941
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: and potentially Bill Belichick's last game, a loss would help

1942
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 2: them in the long run.

1943
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 4: It would They could be anywhere from the two to

1944
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 4: the seven pick they're most I mean, that's a big,

1945
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 4: the big difference, and it could be more like the

1946
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 4: six if they won that's strength the schedule stuff. Even five,

1947
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: they're probably not the two pick though, Dan, they're probably

1948
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 4: the three pick. Washington is likely the two pick. But

1949
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 4: there are strength of schedule variables that can change. Basically

1950
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 4: the opponents that the Patriots play, and they got to

1951
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 4: hope that they lose and vice versa. There is a

1952
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 4: path to them passing Washington, and strength to schedule is

1953
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 4: this week. Yeah, yeah, it's possible, but it's unlikely if

1954
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 4: you look at what they would need a lot to happen.

1955
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 4: So that said, I just see that, like someone responded

1956
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 4: to a something I wrote on Twitter and was like, oh,

1957
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 4: you know, I was just like saying, Belichick's gonna play

1958
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 4: the hits. He went back to my face and tweeter

1959
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 4: or whatever, like he intentionally mispronounces the social media sites.

1960
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 4: And he went back to that this week when they

1961
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 4: were talking about you know, strike the schedule all this stuff,

1962
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 4: It's like, or like, what's going on in terms of rivers,

1963
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 4: Like he's playing the hits and what's what's the ultimate

1964
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 4: Belichick hit? I mean, you know at the end of

1965
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 4: the show, this feels like the end of the show

1966
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 4: has everyone is just waiting for him, just just just

1967
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 4: to play it.

1968
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta play with or without you.

1969
01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 4: For for Arcade Fire, for instance, it's like it's wake up,

1970
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: they have to play wake up.

1971
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 3: Last.

1972
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 4: For Belichick, it's beating the Jets for the sixteenth straight time.

1973
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't pretend that I like it doesn't

1974
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 4: Some guy was saying, it's like, oh, he would just

1975
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 4: you know, torpedo their future if he loses the game. Okay,

1976
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 4: calm down, Like the difference between the three and the

1977
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 4: six pick. It might mean a lot, it might not

1978
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 4: mean a lot, like it might be better for you.

1979
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,120
Speaker 4: You actually don't know, so just shut up about it.

1980
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 4: It's not that big of a deal. I kind of

1981
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 4: think the Patriots will win this game.

1982
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: I'm doing this.

1983
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 5: I'm doing this for Dan and for the future of

1984
01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 5: the Jets because a Jets win doesn't help their drafts either.

1985
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 5: It's like, let's just don't worry about a win.

1986
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: Now. They could move up a few spots.

1987
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 5: But I'm saying that they lose it helped they already,

1988
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 5: even some of their meaningless wins in previous weeks have

1989
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 5: only tarnished their draft stock. Sit at number eight right now.

1990
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 5: But you don't want the Patriots coming out of this

1991
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 5: post Bill Belichick experience, picking one of the great quarterbacks

1992
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 5: of the future in the AFC East. I want them

1993
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 5: falling back down to six or seven. So I think

1994
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 5: Belichick is going to do everything he can going out

1995
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 5: against the Jets to win. I'm locking up New England

1996
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 5: with confidence, but it's for the Jets.

1997
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: I like it. By the way, I missed mine before

1998
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: I completely forgot. I am locking up the Lions against

1999
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: the team around the NFL. Well, let's get that on

2000
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 2: the record. It's become soiled.

2001
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 3: It's it's over on that front.

2002
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: It's Trevor Simeon on the road against a pretty good

2003
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 2: New England.

2004
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,839
Speaker 4: Defense, and it sounds like it's Bailey Zappy after throwing

2005
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 4: like three interceptions.

2006
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 3: Have you watched how just that Brown Patriots defense. They're

2007
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 3: ready to go. It sounds like it's going to be

2008
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 3: potent snow game too.

2009
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 4: It's a minus won thirty five money line minus two.

2010
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 4: We don't have to say the over under, but this

2011
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 4: one's so funny I want to it's thirty thirty and

2012
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 4: a half.

2013
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 3: That is Is that a low for the entire season?

2014
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 4: Well, there was that Steelers Patriots game which turned into

2015
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 4: a shootout in the first half.

2016
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 2: The Jets aren't just rogers away from contending their defense

2017
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 2: has been good, better than great this year. They got

2018
01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 2: lit up by Jake Briskett in the second half against

2019
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 2: Washington and then destroyed by Joe Flacklin.

2020
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 3: Well be happy.

2021
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 4: The first reg zuer line is the reason why the

2022
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 4: Patriots don't have the number two pick because he hit

2023
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 4: that freaking kick.

2024
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Though, the Jets should be very proud of themselves.

2025
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 2: Very proud. I have plenty of reasons to be proud.

2026
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving. I will take one last

2027
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 2: look at the Kansas City Chiefs before the playoffs. They

2028
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 2: travel to across the sidewalk here to face the Los

2029
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers. It is the Chargers getting three and a

2030
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 2: half points. Well you know where that is. No Patrick Mahomes.

2031
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 3: They're not going to play them at all. Nope, playing

2032
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 3: gap baby. I don't know if I think that's the

2033
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: right move.

2034
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta be consistent. I have to be

2035
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: consistent that it is the right move. You don't risk anything.

2036
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Look at the Chargers themselves, and they got Mike Williams hurt.

2037
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: But do the cheat I guess there's what what could

2038
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 2: they possibly do? At this point, I would never play

2039
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 2: my home.

2040
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're locked into their seed, so they I think

2041
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 4: they were very fortunate that they happen to get locked

2042
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 4: in because now they get a bye week.

2043
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good, and they could just completely uh almost

2044
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 2: you have to lay, which is crazy. But this is

2045
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 2: their different type of team with a different track record,

2046
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 2: So the perspective is difference. But you gotta flush your

2047
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: ten win season and just kind of move.

2048
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 3: Now.

2049
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 2: This is January, and I feel like there have been,

2050
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 2: you know, the truly great teams across different sports that

2051
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 2: have had runs that the regular season becomes this really

2052
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: difficult thing and then against all odds and and really

2053
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,759
Speaker 2: based on what you've watched season, they somehow flip a switch.

2054
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 3: Could the Chiefs do that?

2055
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: Could flip a switch and be proficient on offense and

2056
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 2: then pair that with a good defense. I think it's possible,

2057
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 2: but that would be almost a betrayal of what we do,

2058
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: which is actually watch the games all year and watch

2059
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 2: how this team is played and the scheme and the

2060
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: play of the guys around Mahomes. I still have big

2061
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 2: time questions about them being able to score twenty one

2062
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: points in a playoff game.

2063
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 3: So we'll see the Chargers. We don't really need to

2064
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 3: talk about them.

2065
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, they've got fewer than twenty points in

2066
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 5: seven games this year. Is it's just a different experience

2067
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 5: watching this team, and I don't need to kind of

2068
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 5: trust or believe or come up with concepts and why

2069
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 5: they're going to suddenly flip the switch and become what

2070
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 5: they were even in last year's playoffs.

2071
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 3: It's like they there's a personnel issue.

2072
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 5: I think they got a lot of work to do

2073
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 5: in the offseason, and they masked over the Tyreek Kill

2074
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 5: absence last year very well, and it's why there was

2075
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 5: faith they could do it again.

2076
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 3: But they missed a player like that. I think, just

2077
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 3: a player like that.

2078
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: I think any team in the AFC playoffs can pick

2079
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 2: off this Chiefs.

2080
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,840
Speaker 4: Team, sure absolutely, and they might end up playing the

2081
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 4: Dolphins if the Dolphins lost on Hey, he's twenty eight

2082
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 4: years old, decent stick. I think he probably earned himself

2083
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 4: a couple more years in this league. This is the

2084
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 4: least of all the games. I'm voting this one actually

2085
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,120
Speaker 4: the least important. All right, no impact on anything, all right,

2086
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 4: then let's move on Greg, you're up. I'm gonna take

2087
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 4: Rams Niners. The Rams are four point underdogs in this game.

2088
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers who's playing in this game? Fifty

2089
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 4: Neither starting quarterback is playing. Aaron Donald looks like he's out.

2090
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 4: Kyron Williams is out. They announced I was Cooper Cup

2091
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 4: on the list of I think are also out. So

2092
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 4: the stars for the Rams are definitely out. The Niners

2093
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 4: are doing something different, at least publicly. Sam Donald is starting,

2094
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 4: but according to Kyle Shanahan, at least the way he

2095
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 4: explained it was, well, I only know this amount of inactives,

2096
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 4: and we have this many injuries. We actually only have

2097
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 4: one inactive to play with. I'm gonna choose my quarterback

2098
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 4: as that one. And he made it sound like he's

2099
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 4: gonna play his starters in the way I just guessing

2100
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 4: how he sounded was he's got to play him for

2101
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 4: a little bit. I think he's gonna like he's gonna

2102
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 4: play some starters with Donald. And he explained it that

2103
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 4: we want to be more prepared than we were a

2104
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 4: year ago. If Bert Brock gets hurt, we want some

2105
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 4: reps with Sam with the starters. And so that is

2106
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 4: why they're approaching this game this way. I mean, to me,

2107
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 4: it should be bigger than four because their backups I

2108
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 4: just feel like are gonna be Their backups are pretty good,

2109
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 4: and uh, they've owned this matchup lately, but who knows,

2110
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 4: I guess when it comes to backups.

2111
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,839
Speaker 2: Handshake the feeling. I've had it all year that Donald's

2112
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 2: gonna be on the field in a big spot for

2113
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: this team and I'm not rooting or hoping for an

2114
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: injury to party and he's not gonna get benched.

2115
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 3: But like, I don't know, it just feels like there's

2116
01:34:59,320 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 3: something in the star.

2117
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 4: Let's see what I think it could have the most

2118
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 4: interesting part of this game time.

2119
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: It would be not what the Niners want, but I

2120
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 3: hear you.

2121
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 4: Is the decision that the Rams are making to me

2122
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 4: is interesting. They're starting Carson Wentz. I don't know if

2123
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 4: they're gonna throw Puka and Kobe Turner out there to

2124
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 4: like work on some rookie the Year stuff that seems silly.

2125
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 3: Pooka has been banged up all year, but thank you Walker.

2126
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 4: I do think it's interesting that they're saying we don't

2127
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 4: care about becoming the seventh seed, which they will become

2128
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 4: instead of the sixth seed if the Packers win. They're

2129
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 4: just saying the risk of that happening and it might

2130
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,920
Speaker 4: not happen isn't worth it. We want to take a rest.

2131
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 4: We're fine going to Dallas instead of going to Detroit,

2132
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 4: which is you know what, And again there's a lot

2133
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 4: of variables. Maybe it's Philadelphia, maybe the Packers lose anyways,

2134
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 4: And I think that's part of it, is like, yeah,

2135
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 4: you can tell us we're going to Dallas, but maybe

2136
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 4: we're not, because the Packers are going to lose anyways,

2137
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 4: and the rest is the most important thing.

2138
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 3: But they're deciding that they don't care, which.

2139
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: You can make compelling Hayston either way there and you

2140
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 2: can't really get on them.

2141
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's close this out, mark all right.

2142
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 5: Two more games they're both mine. I will go Seahawks

2143
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 5: at Arizona. Doesn't matter what order I go in here,

2144
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 5: but can start their Seattle.

2145
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 3: Let's see here game actually matters.

2146
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 5: The Seahawks can clinch a playoff birth if they win

2147
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:21,240
Speaker 5: and Green Bay loses to Chicago, so that's not impossible.

2148
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 3: Atamish, I took this game just space.

2149
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 4: I'd be happy to give it to you if you want, like, okay, clip,

2150
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 4: nice guy, thank you.

2151
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 3: I know you did get it. You can get a

2152
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 3: draft pick from from next week.

2153
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 2: Make them for that bad they go trade for it.

2154
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 3: Get draft pick next week. Yeah, we're still doing all right?

2155
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Do we do drafts? Playoffs? Playoffs where I'll watch it?

2156
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:40,919
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I'd.

2157
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 5: Be like maybe five bucks twenty twenty four, twenty four

2158
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 5: draft pick?

2159
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: How much would it cost?

2160
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 2: Three bucks?

2161
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:46,919
Speaker 3: We should.

2162
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 2: First remember would you pay them three bucks to switch

2163
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 2: three dollars? Now? Now, no, how about a lunch?

2164
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 3: They could watch it anyways. You know, you can do

2165
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: whatever you want. What did you pay for marks lunch?

2166
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 4: And now that anything about it? Let's keep going.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we'll just we'll deal with this later potentially, keep going.

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Speaker 3: I thought's all this interesting.

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Speaker 5: Stat that the Seahawks have trailed for you know how

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Speaker 5: we talked about how like, what was it the Ravens

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01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 5: that have been trailed for like eighteen minutes or something

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01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:14,440
Speaker 5: this whole season.

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Speaker 3: Never trail.

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Speaker 5: The Seahawks have trailed for seven hours, nineteen minutes, and

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Speaker 5: twenty one seconds, which is tells you something fifth worst

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Speaker 5: in the league, fifth worst?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa worst? Yeah? Minor Miracle Giants.

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Speaker 5: They're playing for those and they're playing the Cardinals who

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Speaker 5: are on that list too. But this Cardinals team, I

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01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 5: don't know. Seattle's defense just leaves you ultra suspicious. And

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01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 5: the version we're getting to James Connor, I'm going to

2182
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Speaker 5: be talking about him a little bit on our NFL

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Speaker 5: Plus feature today.

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Speaker 3: I think he's been like talk about guys that have not.

2185
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 5: Just saved their career because he was already a good player,

2186
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 5: but like he's in their future plans.

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01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 3: And not only that.

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Speaker 5: I thought one of the biggest news items that came

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Speaker 5: out and I love it because it solves us potentially

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01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 5: a lot of nonsense in the offseason. I love when

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01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 5: this happens now is that Jonathan Gannon basically came out

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Speaker 5: and said, Kyler Murray is our guy. There's no any

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01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 5: of these whisper campaigns that we could trade him. We

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01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 5: can go somewhere else, we can do They they've got

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01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 5: a bunch of draft picks too, so they were in

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Speaker 5: that world where like if they fell in love with

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01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 5: a different quarterback, you could trade Kyler Murray, someone will

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Speaker 5: want him and you could move up even higher in

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Speaker 5: the draft to get your guy.

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Speaker 3: But he came out and said that.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like the way Jonathan Gannon's operated, the

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Speaker 5: way they've operated with Kyler Murray this whole season, They've

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01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 5: been pretty clean and fair about it, and honestly, they're

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01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 5: just keeping him and he's been.

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01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 4: Good to know because he's in a normal offense. It's

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01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 4: nice to see there is never any motivation to trade

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01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 4: him because you take such a huge financial penalty that

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01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 4: it was only gonna make sense if they didn't like

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Speaker 4: him or if he struggled, and he's looked great. They're

2210
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 4: lighting up defenses with Michael Wilson Indorshin McBride. How about

2211
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 4: we bring in some a good receiver. It just only

2212
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 4: because of the contract and because Kyler is very good.

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01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 4: But even if you take out that, it never made sense.

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01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 4: And I think they're gonna win this game. I'm picking

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01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 4: the Cardinals to win. They are two and a half

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01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 4: point underdogs. It's the Seahawks are minus one forty eight.

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01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 4: I like that For Arizona. To me, I think they're

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01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 4: they're better, They're similar offense, and they're there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like this sex team can't stop power running,

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01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,439
Speaker 4: and that's what Arizona's gonna I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: Give Arizona some flowers for the first time in a

2223
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 2: while on this show. I think they handled the Murray

2224
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: situation perfectly, where remember before the seasons started, there was

2225
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,719
Speaker 2: this talk are they gonna trade them? Are they gonna

2226
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 2: bench them for the whole year to protect you know,

2227
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 2: their asset and then move them, But instead they said, no,

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01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna do We're gonna rehab them the

2229
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 2: right way. We're not gonna rush him back, but we're

2230
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 2: not gonna be overly cute about it. When he's ready

2231
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 2: to play, he's gonna play. And then we are going

2232
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 2: to use that half season as an evaluation period. And

2233
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 2: then Kyler joined the lineup and and with very few skips,

2234
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 2: has really resembled his old self and and I think

2235
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 2: everyone now is in a place, especially coming off last

2236
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 2: week's game, is like, yeah, this is a guy that

2237
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 2: you build around, and we got we potentially have a

2238
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 2: future with Kyler, which has always been kind of I

2239
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 2: know they invested in him financially, but it's always been

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Speaker 2: up in the air air. I thought this this season

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Speaker 2: has been really good in calming down a lot of

2242
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: the melodrama around the situation, and he's their dude.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't the whole organization feel in a better place? In general?

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Speaker 5: It just seems like there's no storylines. It's like it's

2245
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 5: well cochd to get that.

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Speaker 4: I think they're sneaky good coaching staff. I think Petsing

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01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 4: has done a good job offensively. Gannon at least try stuff.

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01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 4: We'll see once they get some players in defensively. And

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Speaker 4: I think this would be a feather in their cap.

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Speaker 4: I know it hurt their draft pick, but I think

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Speaker 4: they would feel pretty great going into the offseason if

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01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 4: they beat the Eagles in Seahawks in a row. And yeah,

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01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 4: this could be a little bit of a coach coach

2254
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 4: killing spree here. They could go on if if they

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Speaker 4: take out the Eagles and Seahawks, who knows in a row,

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Speaker 4: what could happen in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what.

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01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want that to happen, but

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01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 2: I don't want out. I just think an insider, No, oh,

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Speaker 2: I did ask about that. It's more of my ideas.

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Speaker 2: All right, last one, Let's let's finish this up, all right.

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Speaker 2: Broncos at Raiders. And it feels like a last give

2263
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:08,839
Speaker 2: us one minute on this game.

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Speaker 3: One minute.

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Speaker 5: The Broncos are getting three points moneyline minus one fifty five.

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Speaker 5: If you're on the Denver side of things, I think

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01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 5: it's I think it matters for Sean Payton in general,

2268
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 5: like to close out strong, and there's a lot for

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Speaker 5: them to deal with Russell Wilson the rest in this offseason.

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Speaker 5: But I think it's a bigger game for Antonio Pierce,

2271
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Speaker 5: like keep this.

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Speaker 3: Job or not his job or not.

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Speaker 5: And I think he's look at they lead the NFL

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01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,839
Speaker 5: in scoring defense since he's taken over in Week nine, that's.

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Speaker 4: Possible he has no chance, and it's possible he's got

2276
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:38,360
Speaker 4: it already wrapped up.

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01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,719
Speaker 2: So it's hard does scoring defense.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a defensive It's not just that, it's

2279
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,080
Speaker 5: like the players love him, Like there's people talking from

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01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 5: inside the building, like people coming out saying.

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Speaker 3: We want this guy.

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Speaker 5: It's the same thing that happened with Basaccia and Mark

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Speaker 5: Davis didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: It's the Mark Davis side of it matters.

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Speaker 2: What's so are we really still like, Oh, if only

2286
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 2: Rich besides you was coaching the Raiders right now, things

2287
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 2: would be different.

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01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 5: So like they go get some other retread that failed ahead.

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Speaker 3: Don't do that. Don't do that either.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you could go get They'll get

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01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 2: a young offensive mind that.

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Speaker 3: It's a young coach too, though I guess I don't know, like.

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01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 4: I kind of like it just because I like him,

2294
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 4: and I don't know if they're going to do any better.

2295
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 4: Who knows. It could be the end of DeVante Adams there,

2296
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 4: you never know. It could be the end of dossh. Jacobs. Definitely,

2297
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 4: the end of Russell Wilson. The one thing that made

2298
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 4: me laugh this week of all the like insidary reports

2299
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 4: about Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they don't, you're not. You're not trading Russell Wilson.

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01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 3: No one is trading you anything for Russell Wilson. Stop it.

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Speaker 4: Stop trying to puff up his value the contract? Did I.

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Speaker 3: Stop it? Go ahead, you can say it again. It's

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01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 3: all right, is it? That was it? That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Also, Dalvin Cook is a dynamic playmaker with fresh legs.

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01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 2: You should know that as well.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 4: You're right, I did say this last day. Did too

2309
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:01,599
Speaker 4: many shows? Hey, pa Jays?

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01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: That is the Week eighteen preview this is the triple Actually, no,

2312
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 2: no longer a triple Adeddit is no Thursday night football doubleheader,

2313
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 2: though NFL Plus Mark had a little tease earlier. The

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01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 2: Dreamatorium is open for business, so check that out an

2315
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,960
Speaker 2: NFL Plus. And then Sunday night, we recap every game

2316
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 2: that we just previewed.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be there for the flagship program till then

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Speaker 3: he the call.