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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stradio Lab and intellectual podcast about straight culture

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Speaker 1: and also a stupid podcast about nothing. Don't say that

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Speaker 1: it's just true. I don't want to line to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: I'm George Severe and I'm Sam Taggart and this is

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Speaker 1: Stradio Lab. Podcast starts. Okay, podcast starts. Now, what's up everybody,

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Speaker 1: And welcome to to Radio Lab. Back from the grave.

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Speaker 1: You thought we were dead, but actually we were training

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Speaker 1: and we're stronger than ever. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say the old s Radio Lab can't come to the

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Speaker 1: phone right now. Why because she doesn't get out of

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Speaker 1: bed for under three million dollars. Wow? Say that. And

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Speaker 1: I just want to say for the listeners at home,

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Speaker 1: this podcast has always been about a few things. It's

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Speaker 1: been about straight culture sort of. It's been about making

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Speaker 1: a podcast entirely. It's been about trend parency. In the

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Speaker 1: spirit of transparency, I want to say that we are

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Speaker 1: um coming off of doing a full intro that completely

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Speaker 1: messed up due to technical difficulties. So we are sort

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Speaker 1: of emotionally raw. We are on edge in a way

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Speaker 1: that I would say I'm physically bleeding from multiple in

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Speaker 1: multiple parts of my body. I'm breaking out in hives.

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Speaker 1: I'm bleeding, but it's uh, what's it called when it's psychological? Um,

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Speaker 1: not bleeding Munchausen. I'm bleeding, but it's Munchausen. I'm bleeding.

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Speaker 1: Psycho Stomatic is the word I was looking for. I

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Speaker 1: am actually I actually bleeding in my limbs are falling,

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Speaker 1: but it's all in my head. Yeah, George is actually

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Speaker 1: hosting a collaboration between Bleeding and Munchausen. Finally, the two

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Speaker 1: girls teamed up inside of George's body collab of the season,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I'm excited a partner. I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: partner with Munchausen for the launch of the collab between Psychosomatic,

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Speaker 1: limb falling and podcasting. So I have to say, George,

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Speaker 1: when you were speaking a moment ago, it actually did

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Speaker 1: start to cut out. And I see the fear that

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Speaker 1: I could feel from our guests today and myself included, Well,

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Speaker 1: it was there. Here's what I'll say from now on,

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Speaker 1: technical difficulties are not a big deal. If something happens

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Speaker 1: and let's say I have to switch my WiFi again,

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Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be chill about it. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: great rule. Then, why does everyone look frightened. I'm perplexed

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Speaker 1: because I feel like we were nothing but chill when

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Speaker 1: you were figuring it out. I was on the verge

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Speaker 1: of having a mental breakdown the entire time. I've been

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Speaker 1: relaxed this whole time until now. Now I'm pissed off.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm and I'm Sam. You were saying the you know,

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Speaker 1: on one level, it's a podcast about straight culture. On

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Speaker 1: another level, it's about radical honesty. And then on a

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Speaker 1: yet third level, it's kind of a horseshoe theory where

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Speaker 1: the radical honesty becomes almost toxic dishonesty. I just want

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Speaker 1: to see the question for this season, season three, which

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Speaker 1: is starting today, the first season sponsored by Munchausen, is

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Speaker 1: where do we go from here up exactly to the

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Speaker 1: tippy top? Baby, I'm talking prime time NBC podcasting. I'm

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Speaker 1: almost like, should we just bring in the guests? And

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Speaker 1: and I feel like there's this pressure to reintroduce, to

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Speaker 1: re launch, and in fact, our sponsor, Munchausen, has done

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Speaker 1: all that for us, and I think it's time to

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Speaker 1: this pressure. We don't feel pressure because you know what,

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Speaker 1: a season three of a podcast, what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Let's start there, doesn't mean anything. Well, that's a slippery

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Speaker 1: slope if I've ever heard one. I want to say

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Speaker 1: one thing before we start. Okay, I have missed you,

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Speaker 1: see you on my screen, being with you every week.

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Speaker 1: It is the greatest honor of my life to have

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Speaker 1: a professional relationship and a collaborative relationship with you. And

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Speaker 1: it is an honor to be back this time, wild

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Speaker 1: bleeding George, you are the Munchausen is talking. Honestly, my

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Speaker 1: all of us are sponsored by Munchausen. Each of us

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Speaker 1: have Munchousen in different ways. We actually each have Munchausen

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Speaker 1: by proxy to someone we have chosen. I'm poisoning Sam.

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Speaker 1: Sam is poisoning Bowen, Bowen. It is poisoning Matt every

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Speaker 1: goddamn day. Phantom thread over here. Not for lack of trying,

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Speaker 1: t t um. Okay, George, Um, it's a pleasure to

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Speaker 1: lost the summer without you, and our personal and professional

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Speaker 1: what I'm missing is a recorded podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: it's not a good quality. I don't take pride in it,

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Speaker 1: but it's just a fact. Matt and Bowen, how has

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Speaker 1: your professional relationships strained your friendship immensely? Yeah, a lot um,

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Speaker 1: this is your first mistake. Yea. Even talking about it

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan saying I could hear myself, I could hear

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Speaker 1: everyone being annoyed with me, but I couldn't stop when

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Speaker 1: she's talking about Regina all the time, and to me,

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Speaker 1: Regina is my heart. Yeah. Well, Katie Herron said that

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan didn't say about it was improvised. It was improvised. Now,

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Speaker 1: Tina Fey, Dame Tina Fey wrote those words through Katie

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Speaker 1: about this, that entire movie was improvised. She's never said that, George,

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Speaker 1: She has never said, when you watched The Trap, did

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Speaker 1: you think Lindsay Lohan actually had a twin? A lot

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Speaker 1: about a relationship strained Lindsay Lohan with herself. Oh, my god, God,

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Speaker 1: I have nothing to had. Well, let's bring in our guests,

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Speaker 1: shall we? Okay, this has been such awkward humor. No

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Speaker 1: getting excited. Can we be brought in? I think it's

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Speaker 1: time to bring in our guests. And why do you

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Speaker 1: feel that it's time? Please give a warm welcome to

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Speaker 1: style superstar Carson Cressley and the always hilarious Michelle Vissage.

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Speaker 1: So are we do? Who do you think do you

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Speaker 1: think that Carson is? Like I was just thinking, are

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Speaker 1: We are now parentheses derogatory, Yeah, parenthes derogatory and and

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Speaker 1: Matt Rogers, and it will be like inherently like like

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Speaker 1: like that's meant to be mean, and it's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: like superstar. Literally he's crying. He's back with glitter on

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I do think Georgia're right. I do think

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Speaker 1: of America wants to know, should we bring them in?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think there's almost there. I I'm sensing

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Speaker 1: like you know, the dog is used to the cage.

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Speaker 1: Bow and Yang and Matt Rogers chices You live in

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Speaker 1: love You to local girls, How the hell's it going?

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Speaker 1: You guys really are living love to local today a

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Speaker 1: mass loca. Matt, you just woke up? Tell us about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: as you all know, we attended the Lady Gaga concert

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Speaker 1: up a little bit late today. Yeah, it's like sexually

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Speaker 1: That's so fun. Oh my god, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: feel I feel like this is Matt, look at me. Congrats. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have found my Steve may have found my Yes,

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Speaker 1: mean in the reboots, Steve is PAULI. Actually he's dying,

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Speaker 1: That would be really fun playing themselves, not to be

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Speaker 1: when you loved another song. I loved a couple other

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Speaker 1: songs I love. I thought it was really specially we

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Speaker 1: all got to listen to Shallow Together Live absolutely hand

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Speaker 1: I loved. I woke up yesterday morning, the day of

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Speaker 1: the concert, and I decided. The first thought I had

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Speaker 1: was I'm going to like hold my Hand. I did

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Speaker 1: not care for that song before I woke up yesterday

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Speaker 1: and chose peace and love for hold my Hand the Power,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna be I'm surprised that

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Speaker 1: you didn't say Enigma, enigmas whatever? Oh who was I with?

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Speaker 1: That was like standing enigma? Well, I do stand enigma,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't me last night, but I said it

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Speaker 1: was I'm gonna be off book by this, But by

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Speaker 1: the concert I learned every single word and it was amazing.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing song. That's it. Okay, that's that's me. Well.

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Speaker 1: I have to say I enjoyed every part of the concert,

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Speaker 1: and I've already expressed that my favorite part was Holding

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Speaker 1: my Hand. But if I had to sort of just

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Speaker 1: you know, pick another favorite, I would say that I

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Speaker 1: absolutely and I'm I actually got some flak from our readers,

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Speaker 1: which is what we call the fans of our podcast,

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Speaker 1: for not standing replay the way everyone else was. And

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Speaker 1: replay was fabulous last night. It was so fabulous. That

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Speaker 1: being said, I think that while Shallow was incredible, I

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Speaker 1: have to say always remember us this way, giving complete.

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Speaker 1: I loved always remember Us this way, loved it, loved it,

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Speaker 1: loved it, loved everything she did at the piano, and

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Speaker 1: like I also did give get my life to that

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Speaker 1: acoustic thousand of a thousand, which the lyrics and you

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Speaker 1: do not the host of this podcast do not know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know. But then someone did, right she did.

452
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Speaker 1: She changed the lyrics, she changed the lyrics. It was

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Speaker 1: it was the Sam and George gas Lighting edition of

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Speaker 1: the song. She did different lyrics so that we would

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Speaker 1: look stupid because she's mad that we haven't had her on.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, in response to Matt, always remember

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Speaker 1: us this stupid love and stupid with always remember us

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Speaker 1: this way. I actually when she started the song, it

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Speaker 1: didn't fully hit me what what she was singing. And

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Speaker 1: my first thought was, oh, she's covering a classic song.

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Speaker 1: She's doing a classic song, that's like the confidence. Who

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Speaker 1: would have thought that it was not even the song

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Speaker 1: from the soundtrack that didn't win the Oscar. Wow. She

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Speaker 1: didn't even do any covers. She didn't do anything doesn't

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Speaker 1: usually no covers, no guest stars, and and honestly no

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Speaker 1: weird like mash ups or anything like it was very

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Speaker 1: much like one song after the other. Wait, but have

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Speaker 1: you have you guys ever heard um the story of

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Speaker 1: One Bone? And I went to go see the Telor

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Speaker 1: Swift World Tour and she had famously she famously had

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Speaker 1: many guest stars and the most iconic guest star that

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Speaker 1: she brought out was to walk to walk the runway

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Speaker 1: during style was oh yeah, And then she came out

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Speaker 1: you got that, David, And it was just like who

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Speaker 1: I complimented at an Emmy's party last year. I said

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Speaker 1: in Treatment was spectacular. You were so good in that,

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Speaker 1: And she did not want to talk to me at all.

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Speaker 1: She was like, thanks, and just let me say this

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Speaker 1: about Let me say this about the Intreatment reboot starring

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Speaker 1: with a Duba. I think I think she's talents. But

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Speaker 1: here's what I'll say the marketing of that show. If

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Speaker 1: you look at the poster for it, she is fully

483
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Speaker 1: wearing a snatched model look to play looks like everything

484
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Speaker 1: like an ad for like I don't know. She's wearing

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Speaker 1: the doulchinkabana, Beyonce bell the key on it. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: yes she is. She is literally done in every single

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Speaker 1: She's She's at home in her professionally, and like Trinity

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Speaker 1: of the Tuck walks in and she's like, let's get

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Speaker 1: to a girl in her own house. So your father,

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Speaker 1: famous famous line girl. Alright, So George was moment and

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be uh kind of cliche, but my

492
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Speaker 1: favorite moment was when she said, if they come for

493
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Speaker 1: gay marriage in this country, you know what will what

494
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Speaker 1: will happen? No, we don't know, No one knows. That

495
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Speaker 1: was you know what's going to happen. And then my

496
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Speaker 1: second favorite moment was when she said, after talking about

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Speaker 1: how much difficult do we have all seen in the

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Speaker 1: last two years, she said, but we have seen so

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Speaker 1: much kindness and positivity, and no one classed. People were

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Speaker 1: like where it was like literally the opposite thousands of people.

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Speaker 1: No one well like this they did. They did the

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Speaker 1: vic emoji, I'm doing the slight I confused emoji. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that moment was when they found polio in the

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Speaker 1: sewage in New York. Yeah. When she said yeah, when

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Speaker 1: she said kindness, she meant polio. We have seen so

506
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Speaker 1: much and then she came out of so much disease.

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Speaker 1: Every time she spoke to the audience, it made even

508
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Speaker 1: less sense than the time before unconnected. No point did

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Speaker 1: she Pat and I have this joke, uh, kind of

510
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Speaker 1: an inside joke. In fact, we talked about certain people

511
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Speaker 1: like that. We'll talk about someone and we'll say, you know,

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Speaker 1: they need to be tagged in the say one single

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Speaker 1: thing that makes sense challenge and I would say, gag,

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Speaker 1: I needs to be tagged, and the say one single

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Speaker 1: thing that makes sense challenge. It's true. I yeah, that

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Speaker 1: stuff was really making me laugh. I wanted almost more

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Speaker 1: of it, um because what you want from her as

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Speaker 1: cookie cookiness. Someone did someone did like I have to

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Speaker 1: say against my whale. I did chuckle when someone posted

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Speaker 1: a photo of the crowd last night and and said

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Speaker 1: there could be people in a room, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: that will never get old. It's so funny. Also another

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Speaker 1: thing that she said was she was like talking about

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Speaker 1: her memories of Jersey and being like in the boardwalk,

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Speaker 1: come on, I've had my good time. I remember that

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Speaker 1: one who could forget? Who can forget? The beach? The

527
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Speaker 1: commitment to Jersey. Rather than just being like think it

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Speaker 1: a shout out and then mostly talking about New York,

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Speaker 1: the commitment to Jersey, she was like, what about those sopranos.

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Speaker 1: It was Jersey burn I think I think they. I

531
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Speaker 1: think every pop star who performs there is told you

532
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Speaker 1: cannot mention New York City before Jersey, like we when

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Speaker 1: Matt and I saw Taylor Swift there, she like barely

534
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Speaker 1: talked about New York either. All she did was say, Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's so great to be in Jersey tonight, like, never

536
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Speaker 1: mentioned New York once except in Welcome to New York.

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Speaker 1: I think she did say like, and who is here

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Speaker 1: from New York and the entire crowd screamed, and she

539
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: was like, okay, and that this, and then she I

540
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Speaker 1: think she probably did like an hashtag awkward uh segue

541
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Speaker 1: into welcome to New York, you know, and speaking of

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Speaker 1: awkward segways first, which we will do after let me finish,

543
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Speaker 1: which we will do after. Sam says his best moment,

544
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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, I'm literally being erased right this

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Speaker 1: second in front on my own podcast. This is so

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Speaker 1: crazy that very suspect, okay, very suspect, well, very inconsidered it,

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Speaker 1: and thank you. I think, um honestly, honestly, the top

548
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Speaker 1: moment for me was I'd already been mentioned. Seeing Shallow

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Speaker 1: with everybody was so crazy when she literally goes into

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Speaker 1: the like hall and it was like she's doing it,

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00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: She's doing the thing we all did for like years,

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00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Like this is so crazy. I could not believe amazing.

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Speaker 1: That was like seeing a way jump in the ocean.

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, I didn't think I would see

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Speaker 1: this in my life. Like that was like being on

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Speaker 1: the moon. Like I was like, I'm I'm there. That's

557
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: also how I felt when she did the CHROMATICA two

558
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Speaker 1: and that was the other one I was going to say.

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00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I listened to this

560
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Speaker 1: so many times and now I'm here and it's happening.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was breathtaking. I was moved. I thought

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Speaker 1: that way about holding my hand for sure. I said,

563
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, this song that I liked today, she's

564
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: doing it something that I liked today also. And to

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: be the most basic, rain on Me was such a

566
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Speaker 1: damn slay. I was jumping up and down jump in

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00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: Stupid Love is a better song. What I was shocked

568
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: that she didn't end on Stupid Love because I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Rain on Me has a feature that was like being

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Speaker 1: played from the speakers. You like to end on something

571
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: where you're hearing like a recorded U featured artist. That

572
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: seems so anticlimactic to me. I couldn't believe she couldn't

573
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Speaker 1: pull any special guests to come out and do that.

574
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Speaker 1: Even if it wasn't Ariana like not, there couldn't be

575
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Speaker 1: anyone I agree with that. I was like, yet, surely

576
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Speaker 1: someone's coming. You couldn't fly in like Pooh, he'd love

577
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: to be around these game and he doesn't do this.

578
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: She's never done this, not once, not in the since

579
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Speaker 1: the begins, not since the aime Ball. She does not

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Speaker 1: pull out special gets because I think she also thinks

581
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: it's very important for people to associate her sharing this

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Speaker 1: stage with someone else, and that only that person only

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Speaker 1: being Tony Bennett for now about Bradley Cooper, Sure, and

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Speaker 1: Bradley like after she's in a movie with him. But

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Speaker 1: I'm say sure she didn't bring up Beyonce for telephone.

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Speaker 1: Ever she brought out like, you know, fucking Florence for

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Speaker 1: hey girl. You know she just doesn't do that, true

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Speaker 1: little monsters. I know you're right. I ultimately was not

589
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Speaker 1: expecting her to bring out anyone like which is why

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Speaker 1: it would have been the biggest gag of Ball if

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Speaker 1: she surpassed those expectations. Of course, of course the big

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Speaker 1: what ba if there was a good bag them, well

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Speaker 1: to gag the big too good away that is the great. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And if you gag too hard, now you even up.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, dre some water bit Jesus Christ, Protect

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Speaker 1: the voice now, protect the voice? Now? Should do our

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Speaker 1: first segment? Or should we bring our guests? I don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm ready to bring it out. Yeah, Carson and

599
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: Ross have been waiting for minutes. Keep them in limbo,

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Speaker 1: Keep them in limbo. Carson, you're a great hunt Ah

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Speaker 1: style superstar, style superstar and the whole though when you

602
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Speaker 1: just thought, when you just went, that was your Carson,

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Speaker 1: It's time to be real. No, my phone's over there,

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Speaker 1: but one of us can do it. I didn't get

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Speaker 1: a notification that real. Okay, I make sure it's a

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Speaker 1: good photo of me too. Hold on, and we don't

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Speaker 1: don't cut this out in the Audio's gonna be really good.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be the little trailer re release on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Um okay, okay, so you know what something that has

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Speaker 1: happened literally since we've been on hiatus. Be real quick

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Speaker 1: thoughts does each go? I think it's boring, but I

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Speaker 1: like it. It's boring, and it's boring now it quickly

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Speaker 1: became boring, but I'll still do it. Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 1: like I wish we'd be boring. Oh my god, real,

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Speaker 1: more like bow Real. Our first segment, it's called straight Shooters,

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Speaker 1: And in this segment, we gauge your familiar Oh, this

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Speaker 1: is my favorite segment in We gauge your familiarity with

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Speaker 1: and complicity and straight culture by asking a series of

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Speaker 1: rapid fire uh questions where you have to choose one

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Speaker 1: thing or another thing or intact sometimes a third thing.

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Speaker 1: And the one rule is you can't ask any follow

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Speaker 1: up questions about how it works. Kapeche, This is I'm

623
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Speaker 1: not even kidding, my favorite segment in podcasting history. It's

624
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Speaker 1: so good on the level, and I just want to

625
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Speaker 1: say that means the world coming from you. Thank you.

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00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: That means so much because so many people in our

627
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Speaker 1: podcasting life have told us we'd never be good enough,

628
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Speaker 1: and they said you're a freak and a loser and

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Speaker 1: nobody and I said, well, you just wait, because we've

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Speaker 1: got a segment of our Sleeves that's gonna rock everyone's world. Honey,

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Speaker 1: if they ain't pay in your bills, pay them bitches,

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Speaker 1: no mind. And I just want to seyfically specifically to

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Speaker 1: Matt Rogers and bone Yang, you know who paved the

634
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Speaker 1: way for so many of us here at the office.

635
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Speaker 1: I we noticed that what you guys did when you

636
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Speaker 1: had guests as you asked questions, and we thought, how

637
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Speaker 1: can we put a twist on that? What if the

638
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: questions are just words? Essential? That's essential? Yeah, that's essential

639
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: is um and it's and it's almost it's almost a commentary.

640
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Speaker 1: It's a commentary on the idea of asking questions. Oh

641
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Speaker 1: my god, you're so right. No, I'm not. Okay, no, No,

642
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Speaker 1: he's obsessed taking away edging me. Okay, here here we go. Boy,

643
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Speaker 1: it's chromatic a ball or basketball. Marjorie Taylor Green or

644
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Speaker 1: Anya Taylor Joy, Any Taylor Joy, Anya Taylor Joy. I

645
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Speaker 1: see dead People or I've seen Deadpool one and two.

646
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: I said, so far, so far. Matt and I are

647
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: in total agree. That's really cool. Bodies bodies, bodies or location, location,

648
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: location location, Okay, it's true. Ignorance is bliss or knowledge

649
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: is power. Ignorant you're can teller, Miles teller or if

650
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: you want to tell her, tell her yourself if you

651
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: want to tell her yourself, Okay, f X is the bear, Noah,

652
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: bomb box, the squid in the whale or C. S

653
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Speaker 1: Lewis's the Lion, the Witch and the wardrobe the C.

654
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Speaker 1: S Lewis's I've not seen I'm not yet seen the bear.

655
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: I apologize. Stacy's mom has got it going on? Or

656
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: our father who art in heaven Hell would be thy name? Wow, Um,

657
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty good. I think that you got

658
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: I want to say seven hundred and fifty six doubs.

659
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: Not everyone can say that. Well, we have to believe

660
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: the kind of logic of schoolwork. This isn't you know,

661
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: we're not in class in some culture that in some

662
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: cultures is seven hundreds. Something can be actually even better

663
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: than than than a thousand. Well, because sometimes less is

664
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: more right. That's something Lady Gaga taught me. Do you

665
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: think Lady Gaga has ever thought less as more? Or

666
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: did you do you think she thought, no, the piano

667
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: has to well, you know you have to wear this

668
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: bug costume. Shallow the bug costume. Can we have to

669
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: talk about the bug costume? While she's saying shallow, that

670
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: was really something. It was sell it was dragon ball z.

671
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: I love. It's not really about wearing the bug costume.

672
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: It is about wearing the bug mask for Shallow and

673
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: then taking it off and being like and now we're done,

674
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: and being like that was specifically for Shallow. It wasn't

675
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: like for this chapter of the concert. I actually was

676
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: dressed as a bug just for Shallow, and she took

677
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: it off so she could get real to always remember us,

678
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: because it was it would be disrespectful to sing always

679
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: remember us this way. Dedicated to Tony Bennett's wife dressed

680
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: as a man of the Wasp. Yeah, well, I actually

681
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: think I do see a segue from the bug to

682
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: our topic. Yeah, should we tell you? Yeah? Okay? Our

683
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: topic is the is and randomness? Randomness? Wow, but on

684
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: the graphic, you guy, You guys can do awkwardness and

685
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: then like in smaller and a smaller font and random

686
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: and random, don't I don't want to random disease because

687
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like parenthetical, but I think it's like, um,

688
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: a subhead, it's a cola. Yeah, well one implies the other.

689
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: And please please listen to Bowen when he says that,

690
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: because he has a very visual eye, and he needs it.

691
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: He needs it to make sense visually, just like I

692
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: need things to make sense. Sonically, Bowen is the eyes

693
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: and I am the ears. You understand which one of them?

694
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Do you understand which one of us is the eyes?

695
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: On which one of us is the ears? Would you say,

696
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, I don't know. It's pretty balanced. I think well,

697
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: canonically Sam is the mat on the mat and George

698
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: is the bowen. Yeah, sure, yea. Or which makes you

699
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: the Sam is the salmon and George is the George.

700
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I would know because I would say that I'm the Sam.

701
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like who are you? Who are you?

702
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: You're not paying one thing over the other, You are

703
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: simply trying one thing over the other. And it's also

704
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: like to sit there and say like it's like even

705
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: just like bring up bones, like visual eye, it's like

706
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: we're we are like Matt and I are both wearing

707
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: tank tops on the zoom and Georgia are both sort

708
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: of like in like kind of well lit, clean white

709
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: spaces with like and just scurried away and showed he

710
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: was wearing underwear. Georgia, are you wearing only underwear? I'm

711
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: actually wearing a loungewear from H and m Oh. I

712
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: love that brand. Um so our topic. I'm wearing underwear,

713
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: are you Yeah, I'm gonna tank top and underwear. Well,

714
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: we actually didn't have sex because I had to say

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00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: it with me Molly Dick. But but we really enjoyed

716
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: each other. That's all really good. Sometimes enjoying each other

717
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: is sex. You know. I really like just kissing. Do

718
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: you people love kissing? I love kissing. I love being

719
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: so romantic. I love like making out in a ball

720
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: when you gegast and the whole world. Okay, let's hear.

721
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Let's I wanna. I wanna. I want to hear a

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00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of maybe not so much a definition. I want

723
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: to put you on the spot, but kind of what

724
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: you think of when you think of randomness and awkwardness.

725
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, why it is a

726
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: straight topic to you? I think on a sensibility level,

727
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: like awkwardness and randomness are paired together because they um

728
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: acknowledge how little sense the world makes, which is great,

729
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: but it doesn't cope with it in any way except

730
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: to say that's awkward or that's random. And then I think, honestly,

731
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Sam Tagget when I first met him, what was like

732
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: ten years ago, like with someone who clued me into

733
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: like this bit of like going okay, like that's like

734
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: I think that that kind of like in a nut

735
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: shell sums up awkward randomness, Like it's like, oh, no comment,

736
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, like that kind of thing. Sure, sure, sure

737
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: think that straight people. And to talk about this decade again,

738
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: the twenty they sort of could feel that queer was

739
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: going to become very cool, and they were like, what's

740
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: the way that we can be queer? Oh, not make

741
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: any sense? So they started to do like so you know,

742
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: they started to get like a little awkward and random

743
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: because it threw a wrench into ordinariness. And I think

744
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: that they started to sort of be awkward and random

745
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: professionally and commercially because I think that it was the

746
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: closest they could get to be in queer. Interesting. Okay,

747
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: so you're saying awkward and random was the painting of

748
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: the fingernails of It's interesting because I think there are

749
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: two rotations of this. It's like, on the one hand,

750
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: you have what you're talking about, like awkward and random

751
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: humor were I'm thinking Napoleon Dynamite? Yes, that's perfect okay.

752
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,760
Speaker 1: And then on the other hand, to me, another element

753
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: of this is like seeing something and interpreting it as

754
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: awkward in random, like seeing something out in the world,

755
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: and to me, what that is is you are uncomfortable,

756
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: but you don't want to work on that, so you

757
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: just put a name on it, call it random, call

758
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: it awkward, and then you don't have to deal with

759
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: it exactly. If someone is like saying something to you

760
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: that is making you question something, or or like that's

761
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: something you haven't heard before, something that is new, then

762
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: you can just kind of be like, oh, that's so random,

763
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: instead of being like, well, maybe hear that person out.

764
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: Maybe you're just not understanding. Maybe it's random to you

765
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: because you've never challenged yourself in your life. The dismissiveness

766
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: of random, the dismissiveness of and yes, this is this

767
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: is this is one of the most amazing conversations I've

768
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: ever or had. I'm not joking academic, it's very academic,

769
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: but it is. I do think that is the that

770
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: is the issue with I think is that the world

771
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: was changing too fast for people to make sense of it.

772
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: The only way they could was by calling things random

773
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: and awkward, right, and not coping and not just moving on.

774
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: But I think that's where like the humor comes from,

775
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: because it's like, so Sudie Green was telling me about

776
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: this roommate she had her freshman year of college, where um,

777
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: the way she laughed was to go like this, what

778
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: the fuck? Every time she laughed said what the funk

779
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: at the end, And I think that's that's what the fuck?

780
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: That is straightness, That that is a straight way of

781
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: like understanding the world of or of reacting to something. Yes,

782
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: because it is you are not even allowing yourself the

783
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: vulnerability of laughing. You are immediately painting yourself as superior

784
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: because you're actually by saying what the funk? You are

785
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: like what is that? Like, I'm I'm better than that.

786
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to address that, and it's like, no,

787
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: just laugh. Yeah. I wonder if that was freshman year.

788
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: I wonder if that was like it's free. I wonder

789
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: if that was like a freshman year thing of like

790
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have a thing or this is something

791
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm picking up right now because I'm a little nervous.

792
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: Hashtag awkward not comfortable. Maybe they were the awkward one

793
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: and I would really want to check in with that

794
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: girl to see if she still does that, because if

795
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: she does and that's actually what she does, like that's like,

796
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, naturally how she laughs and expresses that she

797
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: finds something funny. That person needs to be studied. And

798
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: there could be a hundred people in a room, but

799
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: there can only be one that's that random. Yeah. Well, okay,

800
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: here's the question I have, because you know, we're lumping

801
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: these two things together. Can a person be awkward without

802
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 1: being random? Can a person be random without being awkward?

803
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, if they're awkward all the time, it's not random. Wow, wow,

804
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I kind of love it. What what she's actually a

805
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: slight Unfortunately, that's actually queer. It's it's given. It is

806
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: giving Napoleon dynamite in a way, like I could. I

807
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: feel like the character that was missing and Napoleon Dynamite

808
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: was the one that was like I love it actually,

809
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: Um wait, wait can somebody random without being awkward? Um? Yes, yeah, Okay,

810
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: we don't need to explore that one for that Okay,

811
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: my next thought okay, here here this one out. Okay,

812
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: and for my next thought, okay, so people in the

813
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: twenty tens, I think it was sort of the top

814
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: down thing. I think the media was telling them that

815
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: it was noble to be awkward and in them, and

816
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: so people that were like maybe feeling a little outsider

817
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: leaned into it because they were like, actually, if i'm

818
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: if I own it, if I have awkward and random pride,

819
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm actually the intellectual in this place. I'm actually the

820
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: humorous one, and I'm the hero of this story. Yes,

821
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: and that caused sun Dance movies that caused Hitchfork albums

822
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: that caused uh yeah, I mean even just like Zoey

823
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: Deschanel in her version one. I mean it caused blog

824
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: culture that caused everything. It caused like too much personality

825
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: and headlines. It's everything, and I feel like it has

826
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: I forgive. The usage of the term trickled down into

827
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: gen z behavior where it's like, oh, we're proud of

828
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: being like like they take pride or power in feeling

829
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: like antisocial even more so than like we were in Yes,

830
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: I think almost we've swung too far in the other

831
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: direction where now o um, randomness and awkwardness were reclaimed

832
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: to such a degree yes, that you kind of want

833
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, let's rein it back in. Yeah,

834
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: because sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it's it's one thing to

835
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 1: be random, and it's another thing to just not make

836
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: any fucking sense. Like if you don't make any sense,

837
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like I'm gonna walk away from you.

838
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: I would even say random. I would even say a

839
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: perfect example of someone in the Twenty Times who was

840
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: in the twenty Times it was random but not awkward

841
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: was Gaga when she first started out like Kermit the

842
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: frog dress, like all these crazy things. You're like, what

843
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: the fuck? But she wasn't being awkward about it. She

844
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: was like committing herself to the bed while being random,

845
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: and it always made sense to her. It was random

846
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: to us, but it was always a comment, yes, but

847
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: do you know when? Do you know what? The one

848
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: thing she did that was interpreted as awkward? Joe Calderone,

849
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: that was awkward? That was that was I was that

850
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: was not just random random and not even random, not

851
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: even random. Joe Caldron was the definition of when when

852
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: randomness and awkwardness combine, that's when you get to cringe.

853
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, my my thesis. Okay, maybe Matt's the

854
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: George so Um. Really I think we really excavated something.

855
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: I understand the world better now. I really wait, I

856
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 1: just want to as a counter you know things now

857
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: that I didn't know then. Then. Okay, So if if

858
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: random and Awkward are straight, does that mean normal he

859
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: is gay? Wow? I think I think there's a NORMI

860
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 1: counterculture in gig culture right now. Not even a counter culture.

861
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: I think. I think it's just a cultures. Your genius.

862
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, but I like awkward and random

863
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: are normally countercultures. So it's not like they're not normal.

864
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: They are offshoots of normal. The fact that awkward and

865
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: random exist it makes the normal hegemony stronger. Wow. For

866
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: awkward and random to exist, because it only props it

867
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: up more totally, Awkward and random is have to Awkward

868
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: and random have to exist in opposition to something, and

869
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: that's something is and that entire ecosystem is straight. It's

870
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: not like one is queer and one is straight. The

871
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: entire ecosystem of normal and then normal and then things

872
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: in opposition to normal. I'm gonna draw it out. I'm

873
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: gonna draw it out. Yes, okay, okay, so it's an

874
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: even diagram. Um, this is where boonen is the eyes

875
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: and then okay, so you see, awkward and normal are

876
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: two separate circles, but they are in the and diagram

877
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: the bigger than diagram. I'm taking a screenshot so that

878
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: we can post this, and I do think, I do

879
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: think what would you could do is you can make

880
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: those circles in her lap and in the middle. Is

881
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: cringe because cringe is at the heart of straight it

882
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: is you know Bowen. Have you considered making them in

883
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: her lap? Yea, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna think about

884
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: doing that. Wait, awkward and normal overlapping is not cringe.

885
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: You were saying awkward and random, right, I'm sorry, I

886
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: may being not the eyes. I was having a difficult

887
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: time to see. Oh I see what you're saying so random? Yes, yes, yes,

888
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: that's random. Yeah, okay, thank you. And this is cringe. Okay,

889
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: all right. I'm like, you're literally making like a map

890
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: for the beginning of some sort of book. I think

891
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: we write this, I need an oral history from Napoleon

892
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: Dynamite to Juno. Well, so you're going more prestige also

893
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: where it's like there is also like yeah, yeah, I

894
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: think of Napoleon Dynamite as prestige, but I think random

895
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: and I love them and they they raised me in

896
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: many ways. But I think you can't talk about random

897
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: without talking about Lonely Island. I loved I do like

898
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: hot Rod, Like hot Rod was almost peak Internet random

899
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: humor because like in a commercial like do you remember

900
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: like cool Beans remix while in the middle of hot Rod,

901
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: It's not It's not Lonely Islands. You know what the

902
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: awkward random origin is what Homestar Runner. Wow, you're damn

903
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: so fucking correct. Okay, here is my This is my

904
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: origin of awkward and random. That is like, you know,

905
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like this professor that studies really kind

906
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: of niche things and it's and it's going to say something.

907
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: Really are you ready? It is them. It is the

908
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: Amanda show sketch the Girl's Room where one of the

909
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: girls always says, I like eggs. Oh my god. Honestly,

910
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: it's it does come for awkwardness and randomness. It's the

911
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: the generation that was old enough to appreciate Napoleon Dynamite

912
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: and like high school their children shows were the kind

913
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: of things that were like eggs, like like Gill, like Gilly,

914
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: like being such a thing for so long was because

915
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: people in their childhood had a trauma because they were

916
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: watching kids shows where it was like I like eggs

917
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: or or or And in fact, I'm not realizing so

918
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: much of the Amanda Show was like that, the one

919
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: where she would always like, whack Drake Bell in the

920
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: face a hill billion moment, moment, another um. Remember Laurie

921
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: best Denberg that that fucking segment on all that that

922
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: was this full slate But it was random. Okay, how

923
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: about the Andy Milanaka show Final Infamation? Yes, random and

924
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: so much MTV programming at the time, and we love them,

925
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: but we hate them for what they did to our friends.

926
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: But like adults swim stuff and back in the day

927
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: like Aquitine Hunger Force, I was like, oh, random, it's

928
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: the fries are talking to the meatballs or what you know, Like,

929
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, this is tough. This is to like

930
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: good Burger, like Arrange Soda, Yes exactly. It's like, what

931
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: is the joke with who loves Range soda killers? Arrange Soda?

932
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: I do? I do? I do? That's funny, very random.

933
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: You know what else this is bringing? Wait, this is

934
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: actually I'm having a huge insight. Okay, I'm actually scarchedes

935
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: that this is related to the over reliance on just references,

936
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Like just because something is a reference doesn't make it

937
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: interesting or funny or insightful, but it does make it random.

938
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: If you just reference something, it's and that's like the

939
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: orange soda thing, It's like, okay, great, now we know

940
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: this is a joke. Whenever they mentioned orange soda, you

941
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: just know to laugh. Yeah, yeah, can I Can I

942
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: be really random right now? Yeah, if you're not awkward.

943
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: We found out that Trump has violated the Espionage Act.

944
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: They did find top top secret info at Maral large.

945
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: Are you reading Twitter while you're on you? No? No,

946
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: no no. My literally popped up on my phone as

947
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: a notification, and I literally it was like this, and

948
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: then it went it lit up like that because I

949
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: saw the news headline can I tell you something, Matt?

950
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: When I saw your face change, I thought you were

951
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: offended because I made a light joke about you saying

952
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: um interlap. And I literally this entire time thought that

953
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: you were mad at me because I said that. No,

954
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. I said interlap you. He

955
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: said that, so he was mad at you. I've been

956
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: thinking this entire time how much I love you. I've

957
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: actually been thinking at this entire time, especially last night,

958
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: and I was so excited. I was like, I love

959
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: everyone here. I'm sorry to be a fucking idiot, but

960
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: I loved everyone last night. I actually and when you

961
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: when you guys had your when you guys had your

962
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: earnest moment in the beginning, I loved that last night.

963
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: I felt an overwhelming almost Um. I would say it

964
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: was almost a sadness in the knowledge that I will

965
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: never be able to express to each person how much

966
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: they mean to me. It was so special. Will last

967
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: night and I had a very we had a nice moment,

968
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: nice moment, quick quick quick things in each other's ears,

969
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: very quick affirmations of love to each other. It's very important.

970
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: It's very important. You gotta do. I can't recommend it enough.

971
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: And you guys did that earlier, and it was so beautiful.

972
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: Even if it was sort of a little bit of

973
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: a joke, I knew it was real. Sam and I

974
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: have been doing it more and more. I would say.

975
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: I also like there was just something. I mean, when

976
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm in a room with Sam, I feel safer. Oh,

977
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: It's true. That is the ultimate carbon starts now. Um,

978
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, I do feel like I have to explain

979
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: less to George and he just sort of understands. It's like,

980
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: that's where I'm coming from. It's really nice. Earnestness is

981
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: the least awkward. Sometimes it can be awkward, but it's

982
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: the least random thing. Well, you know that awkward if

983
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: the receiving party is not committing to list honey. You know,

984
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: Awkwardness and randomness are literally a reaction to being genuine

985
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: and being real, like fear. It is a complete fear

986
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: based response. So like, yeah, of course, it's like why

987
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: is Napoleon Dynamite written like that? Or why is sorry

988
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: Juno written like that? Because they can't say what they mean.

989
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: But by the end, Juno does say what she means exactly,

990
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: thank you. That's my point, you know what, if you know,

991
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: you know what my favorite my favorite part of Juno

992
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: is at the end when um, she says to Michael

993
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: Sarah like, I just like you're you don't even really try.

994
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: You're so cool and you don't even really try, And

995
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: he says, I try really hard. Actually, you know I

996
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: actually you're right, and I completely take back my examples.

997
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: It's what is a good example of what I'm saying,

998
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: it's like using it as a defense mechanism, like using

999
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: awkwardness and randomness as a defense mechanism of Juno does

1000
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: that the character of Juno, I would say, it's even like, yeah,

1001
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: it's almost like the ethos of the movie rather than

1002
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: the actual movie itself. It's like, yes, there's a certain distance,

1003
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: like it doesn't let you in too close, which I

1004
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: guess is why it works ultimately because then it's even

1005
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: more rewarding at the end when they do get earnest. Yeah,

1006
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: it's sort of a sort of a commentary on random

1007
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: not not the song. They sing a song with each other,

1008
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: which is the most intimate thing you can do. Like,

1009
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: they sing a song together, which is so you know what,

1010
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: that song is peak random in terms of the lyrical content.

1011
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: The political content is random, and and for your band

1012
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: to be called the multi Peaches is random. But they

1013
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: were but that that they had a shared sense of

1014
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: humor and they were sharing it with each other, and

1015
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: there is intimacy that they're also supposed to be children.

1016
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: Their flawed, they're dumb, they're supposed to have bad, bad

1017
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: taste and whatever. We're almost like, okay, not everything is random.

1018
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like we're sort of putting

1019
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: everything in random, and it's like some things are weird

1020
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: and that's different than random. Actually, um and Sam is pet.

1021
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: Sam is really mad. No, this is wh try to

1022
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: pour my heart out to him. He's like, first of all, bitch,

1023
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: not everything is random. First of all, I think I

1024
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: think we can look. It's my job in this podcast

1025
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: sometimes stop us from getting carried away because it can

1026
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: start to feel like you know, yes, that that that that,

1027
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, actually, not all that. Sometimes, Like I

1028
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: think we're a lot of humor and some humor is silly,

1029
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: but not in here random. I love silly. I love silly.

1030
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: I love of course, I mean it's politically necessary. I

1031
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: love silly. I love stupid. I don't really like awkward.

1032
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: I don't like awkward or random. Um okay, wait, I

1033
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: have on do you count? Like i'd say, like Nathan

1034
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: for you is awkward, but it's awkward done really well

1035
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: the way I was going to say that exact same thing.

1036
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: It's awkward. Yeah, it's like it's awkward sort of in

1037
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: the same space as like improv, where it's like, yeah,

1038
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: when it's bad, it's horrible. But when it's good, it

1039
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: is sort of magical. But it's awkward in a very

1040
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: controlled way, in a way that is that leaves you

1041
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: watching it questioning the reality of things. I think it

1042
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: transcends awkward. I don't think awkward is the right label.

1043
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: I do think it is a It is a commentary

1044
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: on awkward in random much like Juno. Nathan for You

1045
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: is very much the Juno of show that's been off

1046
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: the Airplaime for Yeah, okay, no see Nathan for You

1047
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: is cringe okay, okay, okait. Neither of you uses cringe

1048
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: to comment on awkward. It takes awkward to the most

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01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: heightened place so that you see the truth. And also

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: it's it's not using it's not um it's not using

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01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: awkwardness as a crutch like many of these things that

1052
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: we are. It's not using awkwardness. It's about awkwardness like

1053
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: it is an investigation of awkwardness more so than relying

1054
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: on awkwardness as a crutch because at a loss for

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: other things exactly, And a perfect example is an early

1056
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: episode of Nathan for You where he works with a

1057
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: gas station attendant and then it goes great and at

1058
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: the very end the gas station attendant out of nowhere,

1059
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: starts talking about how he drinks his grandson's peace sometimes,

1060
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: and it comes it really comes out of nowhere. And

1061
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: then Nathan Fielder like, I think, I think, I think

1062
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: this is a real moment, but it's one of those

1063
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: things in the show where you're like, is this real?

1064
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: But Nathan Fielder, the real person is like wait what,

1065
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? And that is awkward, random,

1066
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: and cringe, all three. It's all three and one thing,

1067
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: the holy trinity, the awkward, random, and cringe, and no

1068
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: one's done it since The Office. Thank you Steve Correll,

1069
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: Thank you you are an icon everything coun this is awkward. Yes, yes,

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01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: that is actually such a great example that that we

1071
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: hadn't touched on is actually mockumentary in general is like

1072
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, like when done well, Like to me,

1073
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: Christopher guests, movies are like the biggest pleasure. It's like

1074
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: the perfect movies because, much like Nathan for you, they

1075
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: actually are. It's about the subject of those things rather

1076
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: than using them as crutches. Whereas The Office at its worst,

1077
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 1: not always at its worst, is just using awkwardness and randomness, well,

1078
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: it uses it as like a sprinkle, because like I

1079
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: think The Office is a good show, and then like

1080
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: like I need like way less of Jim being like random,

1081
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 1: like weird, Like Jim is one of the worst parts

1082
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: of right, And I feel bad saying that because you

1083
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of need him to even have the Office because

1084
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: like it's so like when you think of the Office,

1085
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: like probably top three things you think about is Jim

1086
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: looking at the camera. Like but but Jim is Jim

1087
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: is awkward, and Dwight is random? Yes yeah, and Michael

1088
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: mc correct yes. Wow. Wait, one tiny little footnote is

1089
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 1: about when we were talking about improv briefly. Improv in fact,

1090
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: is the definition of random because it's literally give us

1091
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: a topic. Like it's literally pick a random thing and

1092
01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: then build something around it. Yeah. Wait, I have a question. Yeah.

1093
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: Do you guys think John Grazinski is hot? Yeah? No,

1094
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't either. I mean, he seems lovely, just doesn't

1095
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: He just doesn't do it for me. But it's fine.

1096
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: Much like many of these I heard, he is not lovely.

1097
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 1: I heard he's there. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Joys

1098
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: Juma says he's an absolute and that's fact checked. I

1099
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: do think that much like many of these guys and

1100
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: this is I'm not saying anything new, but I'm like, yeah,

1101
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: he was hot when it was like a surprise that

1102
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 1: he was hot. He's not hot now that he's like

1103
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: funded by the CIA. Yeah, like to look at him

1104
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: in the office and be like, you know what kind

1105
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: of round them that I find him hot now that

1106
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: it's awkward? That's awkward, Not awkward considering I'm sitting with

1107
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: my wife. You know what's weird? Like it's like the

1108
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: Office had John Krasinski become hot leading man, and Parks

1109
01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: and Rec had Chris Pratt become hot leading man. But

1110
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: we're not seeing anything from uh, thirty Rock? Where is

1111
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 1: the hot leading man from thirty Rock? Why isn't Jack

1112
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: mcbreer in the Marvel cinemat in what I want to know?

1113
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: You know who? I think That's really what I'm saying.

1114
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: You know, I think it is so hot and truly,

1115
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: like is just whatever is so hot? Is Jonathan from

1116
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 1: thirty Rock? Molly Pincholi a sweetheart in real life? And

1117
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: is I'm so attracted to him deeply and I want

1118
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: to say, like Juilliard, like he's like a really wonderful

1119
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: wait which Panchol Jonathan. Oh wait wait, we started his

1120
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: career as hot leading man. No, well that's someone who

1121
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: started his career as a hot leading man. The premise

1122
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: of what I was saying, Hans, if you listen, was

1123
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: that it's someone from the show who then became a

1124
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: hot leading man. It's someone it's someone that like was

1125
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 1: not put there to be hot. And then people were like, wait,

1126
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: that person is hot, right, yeah, thanks, but thanks. I

1127
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: you're gonna get glimpse into my relationship with Hans, which

1128
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: is really a very flirt very flirting. God, I had

1129
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: no idea. It's sort of random when you are wanting

1130
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: to flirt with someone and you're nasty to them, you

1131
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I guess I was thinking, it's

1132
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: more like sounds like illegal, Like it's like you're like

1133
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 1: flirting with like a co worker, you know what it

1134
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: means like sounds like yeah, it sounds like we should

1135
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: call nine one one and not the one in CHROMATICA. Yeah,

1136
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking jail time, darling. Kim Petra said a problematique,

1137
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: problematique that should be my album. When what are we

1138
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: gonna do about her? There's no time? Matt, can you

1139
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 1: say that again, Problematique. That should be my album? What

1140
01:11:52,680 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: the fuck? I mean, why are we laughing? Why are

1141
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: we laughing? We laughing at the metal amazing, it's amazing.

1142
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: Are we laughing on on a meta level at Yeah? Well,

1143
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 1: I think the funny thing is that there is this

1144
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: person sudo knows that did that. It's not like that's

1145
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: the funny thing. But also there's, um, there's an SNL

1146
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: sketch that I think is also I'm sorry but this

1147
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: is before my time, But there's o Cecily Strong and

1148
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson dressed up in like nerdy clothes going to

1149
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: a museum. They're like going in front of this dinosaur

1150
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: skeleton and then like you know, someone's explaining what the

1151
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: dinosaur is, and then both of them it's pieces of

1152
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: pot and both of them are like, okay, giant, what

1153
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: have we been? A giant turt under the dino? And

1154
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 1: everyone's to be like, um, that happened, you know, Like

1155
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: it's like, but why are we laughing at that? Because

1156
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: we're laughing at that kind of the idea because those

1157
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: people are so yeah, we know those people, and they're

1158
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: like annoying, and we wanted someone to make fun of

1159
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 1: them for a long time and also the pig, So

1160
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: that so that happened is actually what we were saying

1161
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: of like seeing something that, seeing something that makes you

1162
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: uncomfortable or is somehow um foreign, and then not knowing

1163
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: bring it down to your level by being like Okay, okay,

1164
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: I guess so uh are we all we all saw that?

1165
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: And those people that those people thinking they're funny. It

1166
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: drives me crazy, like just being like, well that happened,

1167
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: like okay, don't sell you that again, or like that

1168
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: kind of like jokes. So I guess that's not a joke. Okay,

1169
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: I guess we're having this converse. It's very like Midwestern

1170
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: like barbecue humor. My mom, you always go to the

1171
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: Midwest when you want to sell something. Honey, I've earned it,

1172
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: I've spent my time there. I I don't need it anymore.

1173
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: I know. It's just I guess I'm always thinking like

1174
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: my parents friends and like the ones that I think

1175
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: they're funny. I'm always like, oh no, here we go.

1176
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: It hurts every time. Sorry, sorry if sorry, if you're okay,

1177
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast and you're my parents friend,

1178
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you're not funny. But you're not funny period.

1179
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: And if you listen to this and your instinct just

1180
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: to go, well, he said that that happened. That happen,

1181
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: you're proving his point. Stupid, stupid, idiot, fool, go back

1182
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,560
Speaker 1: to Costco my parents. So what are the so so,

1183
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: what are the correct ways to react to things? I

1184
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: feel this way? I feel sad, I feel happy, I

1185
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: feel scared. Yeah, be honest about your feelings for once.

1186
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: It's Renee Brown. Label the feeling because then it shapes

1187
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: the experience. Okay, just say how you feel, because the

1188
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: word bingo defines the experience theory. Because guess what by

1189
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: saying so that happened, you're literally taking making yourself even

1190
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: you're putting even more distance between what between you and

1191
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: what you were experiencing you should be putting's gonna always

1192
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: remember something this way? If you say, well, that happened

1193
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 1: every single time, Like to always remember something this way,

1194
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: you have to have a way, like not just the

1195
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: way you not just a standard. Even just saying after

1196
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: something happens, I'll always remember us this way. That locks

1197
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: it in. Yeah, that's it is. It is literally the

1198
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 1: opposite of so that happened, because imagine if literally what

1199
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: was his name in the movie, Jackson Maine, if if

1200
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: Jackson Mane pissed himself on stage with the Grammys and

1201
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: Ali literally just gonna so I guess that happened. Okay wait,

1202
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: but if it actually happened, I would be laughing. It

1203
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the funniest thing I have ever seen. It

1204
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: cuts to her happened like and then just one part

1205
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: where she's like, um, I guess this is adulting, like

1206
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: with make you laugh, So major plot point in any

1207
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: movie with that Titanic thinking, uh, that that happened. Okay,

1208
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: So I guess we're sinking now do you know you

1209
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: literally do you know what we're literally describing? What? Say

1210
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: it with me? Marvel? Oh my god? Really this is

1211
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: what Marvel is. Marvel is the ultimate triumph of awkward

1212
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: and random random. Yes, yes, the Celestia stone is being

1213
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: combined with them gruber biotics sense and we have to

1214
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: go and then like literally you'll cut to a raccoon

1215
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: exactly like right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I am groot Okay, wait,

1216
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: I am. I am Guardians. I hate Guardians and Boone

1217
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: and I famously out of Guardians of the Galaxy of

1218
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: Volume one, because if I had to hear that tree

1219
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: so I am groot one more time and people will

1220
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, that is so funny. He

1221
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: is grout, it's all he said. That is so stupid.

1222
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I am group. The concept of I am

1223
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: grout is one of the most politically regressive things aesthetically

1224
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: that has ever happened in our culture. The fact that

1225
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 1: I am meant to find it funny that a tree

1226
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: says I am grout, not to be the autumn ale,

1227
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: but guardians is a slay it. And also, I'll tell you,

1228
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: but they're also trying what they're trying when they bring

1229
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: out like baby Grout, because now there's this thing of like, oh,

1230
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: we're re energizing because something is a baby now, like

1231
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: baby Yoda. And it worked with baby Yoda because it's

1232
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: so baby grouty, because something is a baby now. Her

1233
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: name is grow gu Say her name and she grow Goo.

1234
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: Is the cutest thing that's ever been made and ever

1235
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: it is a triumph of artistry of puppetry of cinema.

1236
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: Is so figure you. Everyone needs everyone needs a baby

1237
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: grow group. Everyone needs one, Like honestly, it's there it's

1238
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 1: amazing to bring on a vacation. You can dress them

1239
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: up like Baby Yoda slash grow Goo is something that

1240
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: like I would love, like I would like to tell

1241
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: my past self about, like I'd be like, hold on, baby,

1242
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 1: because in a few years there's gonna be a baby

1243
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: Yoda and you're gonna love it. Yeah, earnestly, I'm so

1244
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: happy that baby Yoda exists. I really am. I it's

1245
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: so important. Yeah, I think baby Yoda. We haven't really

1246
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: seen this type of um like sort of fantasia around

1247
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: like a toy since tickle Me almost and this one

1248
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: and this one wasn't gonna kill you pickle me Alma

1249
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: was killing people. Say that, oh, given just to all

1250
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: the kids. And then the parents said the kids. So

1251
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's normal now. I would go, well, dollars later,

1252
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 1: five dollars later, and my kid is dead. I need

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Speaker 1: a drink. I need a cocktail. Honey, where's the bar.

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: That's another like like like that, honey, where's the bar? Huh,

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01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: where's the bar? I don't need a cocktail yesterday? Oh,

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: I mean we need to leave it. We need to

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01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: leave this planet yesterday. Yes, I love that. I love

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01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: those types of people. They're they're fun to me. But George,

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01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: what are you thinking about? George? Isn't no, you're like so,

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01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: I truly am just I would say, I would say intellectually,

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01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: the things that have been put into my brain throughout

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: this recording are making it about to burst your exhaust.

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01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: It's been very stimulating. This is I'm sorry to say.

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01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: Everyone is making such good points and I and I

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01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: and I feel this almost coked out energy of having

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01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: me up. No no, no, we we we can slow

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01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: it down, we can pump the I mean no, no, no, no, please,

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01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. Oh, trust me. Intellectual intellectual

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01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: intellectual rigor is his wine. Don't talk to me until

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01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: I've had my intellectual rigor. Honey, where's the library? That's

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: what George is saying. I've actually been dying for an

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01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: ic coffee this whole time, and now it's like three,

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: but I slept until literally, so this is still my morning.

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: What do I do? I asked my I just want

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01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: to say your morning can look like anything. Yeah, And honestly,

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: a night coffee is one of those beautiful things you

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01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: can get. I love the night coffee. Um should we wait?

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01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: I think we have to do our final segment, which

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01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: is actually crazy because we have another recording. Actually, who

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: are you recording with next? Wouldn't you like to know?

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01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: You told us yesterday who it was? Shut up? I forgot,

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: but I forgot. It's really like if someone you both

1283
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: really like someone that will um believe? Have you believe in?

1284
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Gagging is the future? Whitney whitney wag with somebody I

1285
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: want to slate with somebody just coming on the post

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01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: you put that out is toxic. We're gonna dub that,

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01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: um happen. No, that's that's deadpool humor, which is talk

1288
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: about toxic, which is where random meets cruelty. We're actually

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01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: just actually, we're gonna just bleep the name that Matt

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01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: said so that we can witness the aftermath while not

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01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: offending anyone. Can I tell you guys one more one

1292
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: more awkward thing? Yes, yes, okay, So this is the

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01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: secondhand story. But um, from one of the movers my

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: when I used to work as a mover, there was

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01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 1: this guy who loved, like, got all of his humor

1296
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: from sort of internet culture and it was really bad.

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01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: But he was talking to the client and he was

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: talking about how like this couch was gonna like be

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01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: kind of difficult to get into the hallway and it

1300
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: was going to fit awkwardly. And he was like, yeah,

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty awkward, like Deadpool meeting Deadpool. Oh no,

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01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: I like that premise. I like that. I don't like

1303
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 1: how Yeah, I actually hate every single part. I'm trying

1304
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: to find something to like about it because he seems

1305
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,560
Speaker 1: nice and well, here's what I like about it. I

1306
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: like the effort. I like that he wrote it. That

1307
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: was a pre written joke. He was on his way,

1308
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, he woke up in the morning and was like,

1309
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, what if if nothing else today, I am

1310
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: going to the land this joke, and here we are

1311
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: talking about it. And in some ways he did, Hey,

1312
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: well behaved. Um movers rarely make history, and he made

1313
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: a splash that day. And love him or hate him,

1314
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,839
Speaker 1: it's still an obsession. You know, I'm going to reference

1315
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 1: that reference humor. Here we go, Um, okay, let's do

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01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: our final segment. All right, what's the Let's do the

1317
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: final segment. It's my favorite segment in podcasting history. Our

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01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 1: final se shout outs and then we give a shout

1319
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 1: out to anything that we enjoy sort of in the

1320
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: classic style of imagine it's two hausnan't one, and you're

1321
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: at t r L and time scores, shouting out to

1322
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 1: your squad back home. Anything that you like, give it

1323
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: a shout out, George, do you have one? I could

1324
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: like really wing it. It's actually I just want to

1325
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: say it is by design that we don't think of

1326
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 1: the as ahead of time, because otherwise they wouldn't be spontaneous.

1327
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: So no one can be mad at us that we

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01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: quote unquote had two months to prepare for the quote

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01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 1: unquote first episode of the season. Yeah, but here's I'm

1330
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: going to do one that is actually so basic that

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: it is a commentary on being basic. Everyone ready, Yeah,

1332
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: what's up? Listeners and walk him the season three of

1333
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: the pod. I want to get a quick shout out

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01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: to Soaking Beans. This is something that feels very you.

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01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 1: You might say feels very U or maybe twenty six

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01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: or seventeen. It's something people, you know, it's something you

1337
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: read the Alice in Roman newsletter. Let's say, and and

1338
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: she says and she and she kind of makes it

1339
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: a thing of like don't yell at me, I don't

1340
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: soak beans. Sorry, and then you're like, oh, interesting, I

1341
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: guess our debates happening about these and parts of the

1342
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 1: internet where people don't have to worry about other topics.

1343
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: But here's what I will tell you, listener, is that

1344
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: I just soaked beans for the first time, made them

1345
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 1: the other week. And guess what the girl is all right,

1346
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: I have never had a creamier linea bean in my life.

1347
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: I made a completely improvised white beans salad and had

1348
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: it for lunch. We're talking corn, we're talking aboutvocado, we

1349
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 1: are talking uh feta, and we were talking personally and

1350
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: a lemon dressing, and none of that will be possible

1351
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: without a little thing called soaking beans. And it's just

1352
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: shout out to Alison, and I wish for the best

1353
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: shot out. Hold on, Allison is back. She's been back back,

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01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: Alison ben Roman that what I just did is a reference.

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01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: It's like reference humor. Reference. We actually are guilty of

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01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: both random and reference humor. And no one, no one

1357
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 1: is making humor to vacuum all the tours. Of course,

1358
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 1: of course, so making humor. I'm so, what what the

1359
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: funk am I saying? Making? Okay, okay, okay, okay, hold on,

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01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, um, I've got one somewhere. Let's see. Okay,

1361
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: I've got it. What's up, breaks losers and perverts across

1362
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: the globe? I love you and I see you. I

1363
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 1: would like to give a shout out to the man

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01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: selling water outside of the Chromatica concert last night, because

1365
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: when I got out of that concert, I was overjoyed

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: with joy, but I was feeling parched with water and

1367
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 1: I was dying. And I said, if someone why is

1368
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 1: I thought this was a capitalist nation, Why is no

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01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: one selling water? I'm willing to pay upwards of ten

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01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: dollars for a bottle of damn water because I am thirsty.

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01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: And then comes this man who, yeah, it was probably

1372
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: going against the government and probably not licensed. I hope

1373
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: that's okay with everyone. Sometimes I support unlicensed vendors. And

1374
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 1: he said, I will give you this water bottle for

1375
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: four dollars and I said I will pay that, and

1376
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,560
Speaker 1: I drank it and I wish I had gotten to

1377
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: because I was so fucking thirsty and getting out of

1378
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: that stadium was a nightmare. I think I will maybe

1379
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: never go to that location again, unless I, of course,

1380
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 1: have to to see my girl Stephanie germanata who I

1381
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: do you still stand? And I hope to one day

1382
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: be um dead as mentally ill as I was in

1383
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty to fall in love with her next album,

1384
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: just as hard as I fell in love with Romatica.

1385
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 1: I Love America. Wow. I did not expect it to

1386
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: end on I Love America. That was That was a

1387
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 1: random left turn. Here's what I will say, unlicensed vendors are.

1388
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: In fact, I actually am going to bang pots and

1389
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: pans every day. It's to unlicensed vendors. Yeah, I agree

1390
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 1: with that. There are some of our nation's greatest heroes,

1391
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 1: and Andrew Yane tried to come for them, the Truro people.

1392
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: How dare he? How dare he? Wish I could slap

1393
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 1: him across the face of the Turro. He's one of

1394
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: America's worst people. A yeah, I have to agree. Okay,

1395
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: who wants to go next? I'll go I have something

1396
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: I can go. Okay, Yeah, it's it's a it's it's

1397
01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: a fun one, as as as these all have been.

1398
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: And I wasn't questioning until you said that. Awkward. Hey, hey, hey, um,

1399
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 1: what's heppning? That's a line from one of my favorite

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01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: singers and miss Elliott. But that's not my shout out singer. Famously,

1401
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to shout out the entire cast and crew

1402
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: of Into the Woods on Broadway. I saw this show

1403
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: on Wednesday night with our good friend Matt Whittaker. I'm

1404
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 1: so sorry, Patrick Rodgers, another good friend of ours. Um,

1405
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm going with Matty, Matt's going with Matt Whittaker. But

1406
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: I saw this production. Um. You know my favorite Sondheim show,

1407
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: the first Sonhim show I saw on videotape, the Burgard

1408
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: of Peter's version of the original Broadway run. Um. Very

1409
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: formative culture for me. I didn't realize. And you know what,

1410
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: shout out to Celestie and for sharing with me this

1411
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: beautiful piece of wisdom that the most politically important and

1412
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: impactful art is children's books and anything having to do

1413
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: with children's stories. Because you know what my favorite about

1414
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Into the Woods is that it's a show about impact,

1415
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: and that's why it's impactful. Sarah Barelli's um, Brian Darcy,

1416
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: James Kriteina Miller, Philip a Su Gavin Creole, Julie Lester

1417
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: was a great little red um any golden who could

1418
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 1: forget punk, legend and Broadway Legend and the Golden The

1419
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: mute lady on Orange is the New Black, which he

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01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: opens her mouth and sings You're happy and you go

1421
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:26,360
Speaker 1: why they make her mute? I loved it by I

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01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: loved all the listing of the names. I felt like

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01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: I was like ready for sort of Oscars playoff music

1424
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: to start. I thought that could have been a slaying Yeah,

1425
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: as someone who's also seen it and is going again

1426
01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: because it was just that fabulous. I have to concur

1427
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 1: with every word that my sister has just said. It's

1428
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: really excellent. It's one of my favorite theater experiences I've had.

1429
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 1: Do you think Here's my question. I went when Gavin

1430
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: Creole was in fact unavailable and his understudy filled in.

1431
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't even see Cheyenne. I didn't even see Cheyenne.

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01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: But luckily on like some people on the Zoom, I

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01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 1: did see Sarah burrellas I literally went to the show

1434
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: and Sarah was sick, and I literally I looked at

1435
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: my playbill and saw the role of the Baker's wife

1436
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: will be portrayed by someone else, and I almost asked

1437
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: for I literally but I screenshot screenshoted your story and

1438
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: send it to Matthew, and I was like, this could

1439
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: not happen to a less deserving person. This is like

1440
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: specifically for that to happen to you, for that to

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01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: happen to matth It was really hard. And I'm going

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01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 1: again on the twenty three, and I'm Matt Wicker and

1443
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I are going and he's seen it, I think, and

1444
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: so that that that's a testament. Um and Bowen Yang

1445
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: and I are also going to see Lia Michelle and

1446
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Funny Girl. I need to get my away, but unfortunately

1447
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult. I'm ready go for it right,

1448
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: take it away. What's up, everybody? This is your boy,

1449
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers, third time on Trado. I'm very happy to

1450
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: be here. Thank you to the host for having me

1451
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: once again. I want to get a quick shout out

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01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 1: to desk o Vie for Peth. It allows you not

1453
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: to use condoms, because condoms fucking suck. Who wants to

1454
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 1: use econom It's a whole thing. It's an awkward, random

1455
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 1: oh when you're trying to get it on. Honestly, for me,

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: I just rather stick it in raw protected bareback, if

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Speaker 1: you will. I love raw. I'm prefected bareback sex and

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Speaker 1: being come inside of myself and coming in other people.

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Speaker 1: Desk OVI for prep allows it to happen. Yes, running

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Speaker 1: the rest of getting other scis always, but that doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter when I'm having it a great time. So

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Speaker 1: thank you doctors, thank you physicians, thank you people in

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01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: the lab, scientists, et cetera. Thank you to everyone that's

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Speaker 1: made this possible. Shout out to you desk v for prep.

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Speaker 1: Get your prescription right now. So that just happened, So

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Speaker 1: not just stand big pharma. That just Matt just talked

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Speaker 1: about sucking. Did anyone else hear that? So I guess

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Speaker 1: we're talking about fucking now se podcast. All right, you're welcome.

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Speaker 1: I gotta made y'all relevant. I'll see myself out. Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: nothing else. You know who is a master of the

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Speaker 1: meta humor of awkwardness and randomness is Max Dalter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Meg has mastered it. I was also thinking of Patty

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Speaker 1: in conversation Patty Harrison. Oh yeah, we'll respond to many

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Speaker 1: things as as as fake as elevated awkward as I

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Speaker 1: would elevated awkward. Well, um, well, thank you for being

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Speaker 1: here to kick off our third season. It's so special

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01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: to have you guys on our first app. It really

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Speaker 1: means a lot. That really isn't That really is an honor.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say for us as well,

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Speaker 1: And can I just say congratulations on what I know

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Speaker 1: is a big deal. It's a big deal about you say.

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Speaker 1: And I just want to say, I'll always remember us

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Speaker 1: this way. Oh, I love you, got love you guys

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Speaker 1: when you're acading me, um and the whole let not

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Speaker 1: sing us off. Yeah, I mean, okay, Matt, you can

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Speaker 1: sing ways. Remember it's oh, good night bye gag.