WEBVTT - RHOC Season 20 Premiere: Was It Worth the Hype?

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<v Speaker 1>Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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<v Speaker 2>and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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<v Speaker 2>Bell collect Him. Every episode, we recap reality television from

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<v Speaker 2>the Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space

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<v Speaker 2>or scripted as well. We are back like we never

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<v Speaker 2>Let listen Alexisla and I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen in a few weeks. Baby, I missed you.

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<v Speaker 3>I have missed you.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed you too. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations because somebody got married recently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, my son is hitched. He is hitched.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 4>It is such a gamut of emotions because it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it's my firstborn and you expected to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't expect to happen at twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>But they've been together since they were fifteen, so I

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<v Speaker 4>helped to raise her for a quarter of her life.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was just the most just the most magical day.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I can't explain it any other way. And

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<v Speaker 4>you can feel the love and they took time to

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<v Speaker 4>break the bread together and do all of the Christian things.

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<v Speaker 4>And the kicker to it is, my daughter in law

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<v Speaker 4>wants to be an event planner.

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<v Speaker 3>But she she was toying with the idea.

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<v Speaker 4>And then after she did her wedding, like she did

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<v Speaker 4>her wedding Carlos, we were not allowed to touch much

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<v Speaker 4>the mom and I I know, so imagine Alexis who

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<v Speaker 4>plans all kinds of parties and seeing they're going ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, okay, take a deep breath, take a

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<v Speaker 4>deep breath.

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<v Speaker 3>But she had a war room at her mom's office.

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<v Speaker 3>She took a whole room.

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<v Speaker 4>She had stuff on the walls about what goes where,

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<v Speaker 4>she had boxes lined up. She masterminded all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so now it's like, okay, we're starting We're starting

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<v Speaker 4>a party planning business because you're really good at this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's going to be Billino Events Company. That's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the That's what she started her Instagram on.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, girl, you you're going to rock this

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<v Speaker 4>world with what what you're going to college for.

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<v Speaker 3>Forget that this is actually your gift.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen not to encourage her speaking as a college dropout,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing pretty well. So drop out, girl, drop out.

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<v Speaker 3>How have you been, Carlos?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I've been good.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything's been fine, no complaint, just busy but grateful and thankful. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't did a recapsins Beverly Hills, and we get

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<v Speaker 2>to recap the twentyeth season of the show that started

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<v Speaker 2>in all Alexis Jackson, The Real Housewives of Orange County.

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<v Speaker 2>I must say I had a big smile on my

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<v Speaker 2>face because as a producer, to celebrate a show, a

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<v Speaker 2>reality show that has last sit for twenty seasons, it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a great feat and I could not wait to

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<v Speaker 2>recap this with you. Obviously, you are one of the

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<v Speaker 2>iconic stars from that show as well. So before we recap,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the specifics of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>How did it make you feel knowing that you are

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<v Speaker 1>a part of history.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, gosh, I don't look at it. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really look at it like that. I just look

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<v Speaker 4>at it like I'm so glad that Vicki's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Beat.

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<v Speaker 3>I never thought she should go, but okay, they did it.

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<v Speaker 3>They brought back and brought it with her in with

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<v Speaker 3>a bang.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it's It's pretty cool though, And so Carlos

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<v Speaker 4>as a producer, what what other shows have reality shows

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<v Speaker 4>have made it twenty seasons, like Bachelorette isn't Bachelorette on?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, oh right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like like Survivor The Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>But those are what we call in the business formats, right, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're more about a game.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's game and challenges and all of that stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>not a docuseries, right, we call it in the business

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<v Speaker 2>the reality shows like Real Housewives, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>Those aren't considered docuseries.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Real Housewives franchise is the only docuseries that

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<v Speaker 2>has lasted this long, which is why it is something

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<v Speaker 2>really amazing to celebrate and is such an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, Alexis.

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<v Speaker 2>To have the woman who started it off, Vickon Gobeleson,

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<v Speaker 2>come back and to see the episode open up with

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<v Speaker 2>her in Mexico, I'm like, I know, that's my girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Live your death like live your best life.

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<v Speaker 3>It brought it off full circle, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed seeing her come back in this way to

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<v Speaker 2>where it's about the evolution where she started. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's behind the gates, suburban mom and to me, one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I love about Vicky and this is why I

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<v Speaker 2>do get annoyed. And when I say annoyed, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>in a very protective way. I get protectively annoyed when

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<v Speaker 2>reality stars quit their jobs that they had for years

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<v Speaker 2>and they become a housewife and they no longer have

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<v Speaker 2>a job that they started off with because they're too

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<v Speaker 2>busy trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>Sit with the notion of I'm famous, which is fine,

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<v Speaker 1>but keep your day job.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that Vicki twenty years a part of

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<v Speaker 2>this franchise, kept her day job, and to me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>her day job that allowed her to retire, to enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>being in Mexico, having a residence there, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>super inspiring for reality starts.

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<v Speaker 1>To see that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, because you rely on just the housewives or

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<v Speaker 4>your reality show. Look at she lost it for two years,

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<v Speaker 4>so she quit her day job.

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<v Speaker 1>Longer than two years? Girl, how long?

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<v Speaker 3>How many years are she off?

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<v Speaker 1>Woo? She's Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, why would I know my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Her last housewife run?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get the Lizzie get the exact year

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<v Speaker 2>for us, please her last season.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's because she's.

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<v Speaker 4>Just made some cameos a lot, like like the season

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<v Speaker 4>I was on, season eighteen, she was on a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of times with me, So I guess it's just the

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like she's just she hasn't been completely quiet

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<v Speaker 4>in the you know, year six.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Spencer.

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<v Speaker 2>Her last season as a full time housewife was season thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a friend season fourteen, so full time seven years,

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<v Speaker 2>friend of six.

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<v Speaker 4>Years, and then she's just made cameos all the other

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<v Speaker 4>years since then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like hearing the exact way, Yeah, yeah, okay, wow, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, first of.

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<v Speaker 4>All, I mean, obviously we both run the same boat

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<v Speaker 4>on that. I was just so happy to have her

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<v Speaker 4>back on my screen. I text her too, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was just like, I'm so excited you're coming back, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just and then I was like, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 4>to watch you tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just I knew that she's just going to

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<v Speaker 3>bring the fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, she brought the fun back. And listen. She's

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<v Speaker 1>with her man, Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I find to be so funny about her

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<v Speaker 2>relationship is when she said he fills my emotional love tank.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there you go. And they've been together a while

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<v Speaker 3>and she deserves that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I'm just happy for her.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm happy for her because look when they were showing

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<v Speaker 2>the flashbacks of her not so great at moments although

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking me, honey, they were great of her freaking

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<v Speaker 2>out her last reunion season thirteen, and she's like, get

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<v Speaker 2>on my show and she slams the door.

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<v Speaker 1>She had a very tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Time when she got fired. She had a very tough time,

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<v Speaker 2>and rightfully so she started the show. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>she can look back and say, yes, did I develop

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<v Speaker 2>a cocky attitude for sure? Like like like she absolutely did.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, there just like her, Meani Leaks, Teresa Judais,

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<v Speaker 2>there's women who started their cities where they, to me,

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<v Speaker 2>deserved to have a little cockiness, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>never looked at it like it was unlikable. I looked

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<v Speaker 2>at it like, you did start this, motherfucker. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you have everybody to just to talk your shit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm happy that she is back. I'm happy she's

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<v Speaker 2>in Mexico. I'm happy she has a new man, Mike,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just really happy that Bicky is back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, me too, me too, And she does it all

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<v Speaker 4>like like I didn't even think her cockiness was really

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't even phrase it cockiness. I just thought she's

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<v Speaker 4>she's just got this spunk to her and it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>move over world, like I'm here, I am, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that's what she said to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Your first line of me when she met me was

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<v Speaker 3>welcome to my world, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like I think she just has the us,

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<v Speaker 4>the whole persona of that, and it just makes you laugh,

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<v Speaker 4>like when you really know her heart and who she

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<v Speaker 4>is and just laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, I I love her a great deal. So

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of people, we love our friend. Tamra Judge is

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<v Speaker 1>also back. She started the.

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<v Speaker 2>Of her Housewives of Orange County season two. So in

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<v Speaker 2>this scene is Heather, Gina and Tamera. Gina is engaged,

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<v Speaker 2>So congratulations to Gina.

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<v Speaker 1>Travis proposed to her.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we learned in this scene, Alexis is the

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<v Speaker 2>love is real, but the ring isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, But I get it.

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<v Speaker 4>I get why you did that if you didn't pick

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<v Speaker 4>it like John and I picked up my ring together,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. So he knew what I kind of wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>We tried on several I just didn't know when it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>But at that point, I'm like, oh, what's happening around

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<v Speaker 4>the corner in the next six months, you know. But

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<v Speaker 4>but like for Travis, he did it all on his own.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's actually very smart to have your jeweler when

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<v Speaker 4>you're speaking that kind of money on a rink, because

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<v Speaker 4>you'll never get it back for the value you've spent

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<v Speaker 4>on that diamond. Never, you will get a quarter of

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<v Speaker 4>the price for that diamond, no matter how great the

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<v Speaker 4>diamond is.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like you get a quarter or a half price.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, so he made a prototype so that he

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<v Speaker 4>made sure she liked it, and then they could tweak anything.

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<v Speaker 4>He made what he liked is what I'm gathering from it,

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<v Speaker 4>and then if she wanted to tweak anything, the jeweler

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<v Speaker 4>was ready to do it, and then they make the

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<v Speaker 4>real one. I mean, I personally don't think any I

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<v Speaker 4>think that is wisdom, to be honest, especially if you

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<v Speaker 4>have a picky girl who you know, maybe knows what

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<v Speaker 4>she wants and they didn't discuss it because he really

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to surprise her.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm somebody that I'm not gonna say I'm frugal,

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<v Speaker 2>Alexis I am very I'm very smart and wise when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to my money because I I don't spend frevously.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very much like is this something I need or

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<v Speaker 2>something I want? And I definitely buy stuff that I

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<v Speaker 2>want want, right, but it has to be within reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And I agree with you when it comes to couples

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<v Speaker 2>and listen especially and this is my opinion. If this

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<v Speaker 2>is your second marriage, right, I think like who gives

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck, Like like like what you did, Let's go

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<v Speaker 2>ring shopping, let me pick it on myself, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>not waste any time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>For John and I, we had a problem because we

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<v Speaker 3>both I've had three marriages and another engagement. He or

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<v Speaker 3>two arriages in an engagement.

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<v Speaker 4>He had an ex and another or an ex wife

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<v Speaker 4>and an ex fiance. So we had like five different diamonds.

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<v Speaker 4>We couldn't choose because we're not getting the same shape

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<v Speaker 4>for this bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're like, okay, what was your first wife's ring? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>what was my first ring, what was my second ring?

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<v Speaker 3>What was my third ring? My engagement? And then what

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<v Speaker 3>was your engagement ring? And I'm like, we're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So we had to, like we had about two different,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, shapes we could choose from.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very smart.

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<v Speaker 2>So you guys wanted to make sure that the diamond

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<v Speaker 2>was special to you guys and not something that you Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no recycled, hear.

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<v Speaker 1>Honey, we ain't doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Gina and Camera get into a conversation based on what

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<v Speaker 2>happened last year. Okay, So in this premiere, they're obviously

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<v Speaker 2>referring to the awesomeness to me of last season in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of all the drama and the craziness.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you and I both loved last season.

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<v Speaker 2>So our girl Tamra was in the hot seat, and

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<v Speaker 2>this season is kind of trickling over because Tamra was

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<v Speaker 2>on Jeff Lewis's show and made some comments, how, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I realize these women aren't my friends, they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be my friend, and I'm coming for them, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very tamor judge thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>So in Tamra's defense, she feels like the moment that

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<v Speaker 2>reunion stopped taping, she's sitting there alone crying, and all

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<v Speaker 2>the women leave her to take a group photo, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they all went out to have dinner and she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go because rightfully, so she feels like, you ladies

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even stay around to console me.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all smilingan photos. Why would I need to be there?

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<v Speaker 2>And the part that I was like, huh is when

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<v Speaker 2>it was revealed that Heather debro at that dinner post reunion,

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<v Speaker 2>started the negative conversations about Tamera and us that dinner

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<v Speaker 2>to really talk shit about her alleged friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't even pick that up.

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<v Speaker 4>Really, I was more focused on the fact that Heather

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<v Speaker 4>just goes well. I was more focused on me in

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<v Speaker 4>that moment than you crying because I'm worried about the

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<v Speaker 4>way I looked.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even I guess, I guess that statement.

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<v Speaker 1>You just made me right over my head.

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<v Speaker 3>So yours at the dinner.

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<v Speaker 4>At the dinner, Heathery talk about Tamra at that dinner, Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that's but.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole thing. Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, by the way, by the fucking way.

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<v Speaker 3>Jennifer got some muscles this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I was like, where did she Rocky?

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, what's that Rocky song? The Rocky Balboa.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Okay, she went into the ring and she

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<v Speaker 3>goes I'm coming out a different person. Now okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>done taking crap from everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, wow, okay, and she looks amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I might add Jenny's bad bitch by the way. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, look at thirty second. Jen, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you are, all the OC girls listen

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<v Speaker 1>to our episode. You know they do not All.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know, Alexis Janssen, all of your friends in

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<v Speaker 5>the OC listen to this recap every week.

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<v Speaker 3>Berney's she does not listen, so she loves us. She

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<v Speaker 3>loves us, but she.

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<v Speaker 1>She loves us and she listens anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>All my point is this, Jin, you look fucking amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know I'm a I'm a gen fan this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe love Gin anymore, but we'll get Don a second.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, everybody was saying from Gin to Gina that yes.

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<v Speaker 2>When the girls went out to have dinner post reunion taping,

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<v Speaker 2>Heather led the charge and started saying negative things about.

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<v Speaker 4>Camera, about how she compartmentalizes her. I wondered why I

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<v Speaker 4>missed where that all happened. I was like, wow, Jin's

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<v Speaker 4>really coming out in course about the compartmentalizing camera. But

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<v Speaker 4>then I was like, I must have missed that scene

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<v Speaker 4>last season or something, but you were Okay, You're right,

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<v Speaker 4>it's all coming full circle now. It was when they

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<v Speaker 4>went to dinner after the union that all that started,

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<v Speaker 4>and Jen's just like, I'm ready to call it out.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna sit back anymore and let everyone just

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<v Speaker 4>talk behind everyone's back.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just get it all out in the surface and

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<v Speaker 3>then we can. I like when Jen said, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>have to go all go low.

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<v Speaker 4>To get back out of or to get back out

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<v Speaker 4>of it or something like that and make things move

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<v Speaker 4>forward better. So it's true, get all the stuff, all

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<v Speaker 4>the weeds out of the way to make the flower boom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What also is true is Half of the Bro is

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<v Speaker 2>no friend to Tamra. And I've been saying this for years,

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<v Speaker 2>and Tamra, Judge, if you're listening, I'll repeat it again

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<v Speaker 2>for the third straight season in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the Bro is not your friend, Tamra.

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<v Speaker 2>He of the Bro is the most inauthentic housewife on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Her only friends are her family, Marlowe's.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been saying this for years, and Carlos King is vindicated.

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<v Speaker 2>Ha of the Bro only cares about her family, Josh

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<v Speaker 2>all Men and the salesperson as sex.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. So the fact that here you are.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a dinner post reunion taping, and you spent

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<v Speaker 2>that dinner leading the charge and talking shit about your

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<v Speaker 2>friend Tamra, where you said you put her in a

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<v Speaker 2>box and what that box is, Tamar is the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that this is how Heather views you. I keep my

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<v Speaker 2>friends close, but I keep my enemies closer. She does

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<v Speaker 2>not want the wrath of Tamra, and in Heather Debro's mind,

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<v Speaker 2>she feels like, I would rather have Tamar as a

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<v Speaker 2>fairwether friend bian an enemy, because we all know what

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<v Speaker 2>happens when Tamar has an enemy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how Heather is thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, Heather is so fake on camera where

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to appear that, oh no, Tamarra.

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<v Speaker 1>I do call you? While do you do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Because all these ladies said, and they're not lying, that

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<v Speaker 2>you spent that dinner talking the most shit about Tamra,

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<v Speaker 2>only to call her the next day saying, hey, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you? And to add insult to injury. As they're

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<v Speaker 2>taping Ultimate Girl's Trip at the Quiet Woman, Tamra and

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<v Speaker 2>Shanna get into it, which, by the way, we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into that reading a second, but the moment tamp the

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<v Speaker 2>moment to head they excuse me, told Tamra in that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean all the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Women, meaning the other housewives from the other franchises, they

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<v Speaker 2>were so disturbed by what they saw. They've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>anything like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me.

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.600
<v Speaker 2>These are housewives who threw drinks on each other. These

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<v Speaker 2>are housewives who flip tables. These are housewives like head

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<v Speaker 2>of the bro is so fake. And I'm telling you, Tamra,

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<v Speaker 2>watch your back.

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<v Speaker 4>Tamar called me after that whole how you know time

0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.080
<v Speaker 4>that she filmed that whatever, and you know it was

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<v Speaker 4>it was. She did not say one thing negative about it.

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<v Speaker 4>She just said it went well. She did not sit

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<v Speaker 4>there and think that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even know if the other housewives talked about

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<v Speaker 4>about her, but I don't think that they would have either.

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't. I don't agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>But the thing, the one thing I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 4>you is Reno and Heather was giving her speech. I

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<v Speaker 4>know I'm jumping to the end for a minute, but

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.199
<v Speaker 4>it relates to what we're talking about right now. But

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<v Speaker 4>Heather was given her speech and says, we have.

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<v Speaker 3>Some old friends some new friends.

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<v Speaker 4>And when she said old, Tamra goes historical and Emily's like,

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<v Speaker 4>why why is she throwing that that out there?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think historical friend means, Carlos.

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<v Speaker 1>It means friendship based on.

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<v Speaker 2>In the world of housewives, right, it means the seiority,

0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the hierarchy, the alliance. Right, It's not friendship based on

0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.800
<v Speaker 2>we're great old friends whose children grew up together, and

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:02.919
<v Speaker 2>we spend our weekend going to the park, and we

0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>spend our mornings having coffee gossiping like they're not real

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.320
<v Speaker 2>life friends. I'm telling you how the bro's only friend

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that she loves is Terry, her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. And I listen, I know that you and

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<v Speaker 1>Heather are.

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<v Speaker 3>Friendly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I never know where I stand with Heather either, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>but I know I care about her because we have

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<v Speaker 4>had some very deep talks. And I do think the

0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 4>TV show gets in the way of life. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard to be it's hard to be really good friends

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<v Speaker 4>with people who your job is to kind of throw

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<v Speaker 4>under the bus and make good television with. I mean,

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 4>that's the reality of it. It's it's kind of hard

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.720
<v Speaker 4>to be true deep friends. But I always, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for the whole time I was on the phone or

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 4>when we were filming back in season eighteen and even before,

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:54.680
<v Speaker 4>years before, I would say, are you my TV friend

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<v Speaker 4>or are you my real friend? I need to know

0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.399
<v Speaker 4>because I can tell you know, I want to I

0:20:58.440 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 4>want to be able to go, okay, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>work with my work friend. Which is why I think

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 4>a historical friend in Heather's mind is what she means,

0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:08.040
<v Speaker 4>you're my TV friend. And so I would always say that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I just want to know. I

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.600
<v Speaker 4>want to know how much can I trust you with information?

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 4>How much are you? Are you my true friend? And

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<v Speaker 4>so I don't know what was her answer, I mean, Heather,

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<v Speaker 4>I think Heather probably said when I asked it, she

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<v Speaker 4>probably said, well, Alexis, come on, look at what we've

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.639
<v Speaker 4>gone through, what we've talked about, and what you know.

0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:28.760
<v Speaker 3>And then Tamra was just like, you're my true run

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:30.679
<v Speaker 3>you know. And Tamor's proven to me.

0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know she flugged up a couple times

0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.119
<v Speaker 4>on certain episodes and stuff, but she's proven to me

0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.680
<v Speaker 4>over the years that she's she's legitimately like she knows

0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 4>things that nobody else knows and has never thrown me

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<v Speaker 4>under the bus for any of it, you know.

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And She's what I liked about what Tamar did because

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.159
<v Speaker 2>you and I talked about how I felt you were

0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 2>treated the last time you were a part of the

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 2>show and what happened when I this is all me,

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I felt that the girls.

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Weren't there for you, who you consider your friend.

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.640
<v Speaker 2>But one thing I will appreciate and will always give

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.640
<v Speaker 2>tam or her props on she at least apologized to you,

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 2>like she owned up to it and said I'm sorry

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.720
<v Speaker 2>and did not make any excuses for it. And that's

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:21.560
<v Speaker 2>why to me, listen, Tamra to me is not only

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 2>a great reality star. I think the problem that she

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 2>will always have when it comes to this particular franchise

0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 2>she's a part of, because the OC girls are different.

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll get to that later. I think.

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Where she struggles is, I was brought back to this

0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 2>show because you other women could not do your job

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 2>well enough for it to be good. And I'm back

0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to make sure that we all have

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.680
<v Speaker 2>a job. And I know that there's a fine line

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:59.480
<v Speaker 2>with being a bitch and being shady, But I think

0:22:59.560 --> 0:23:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Tamor is sort of like, I'm not evil.

0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>For the sake of being evil, right, Does.

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 3>That make sense one hundred percent?

0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 4>That I know that from the talks I've had with

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 4>her about when I felt betrayed or a little bit hurt,

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, And and it is, You're exactly right. It's

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 4>about someone has to be the one to go to

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.119
<v Speaker 4>the hard places, which is seems like it's going to

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 4>be Jen this season, but like, right, and there's got

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.439
<v Speaker 4>to be someone that takes that role or it is

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.119
<v Speaker 4>going to be a do do do do and it

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 4>won't Nobody's going to tune in and then everyone loses

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:30.640
<v Speaker 4>their job.

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 3>So it is true, and I think that she does

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<v Speaker 3>a very good job.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we'll see because obviously she's I mean, you could

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 4>see how she reacted at the party. She's obviously trying

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 4>to take a different approach to her life right now

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 4>and be non confrontational.

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 3>So we'll see how it goes.

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I kind of hope I see Tammy Sue

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 4>come out a little bit this season, but I.

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm not watching the twentieth season to see Treason

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Migas take shots of Costa egos like that.

0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 1>It's fine, but I need to see.

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Tamra be the force multiplying villain that I invested in

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>for all of these seasons.

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Wish to me get it back to the quiet woman.

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<v Speaker 6>First of all, what what's in the water or the

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:23.400
<v Speaker 6>oysters or the hummus where the quiet woman is like

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 6>the scene of the crimes plural?

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:27.800
<v Speaker 2>John and I.

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 4>I've been going there for twenty years and never seen

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 4>anything like that. And John and I go in there

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:33.479
<v Speaker 4>and we don't see that stuff. So I don't know

0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 4>what it is about certain women that get in there

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 4>and get a little ruffle in their feather.

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 4>Put the poor quiet woman. I mean, hey, it gets

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 4>some business. They're always busy. I mean, you can ever

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:45.800
<v Speaker 4>get a table in there.

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 3>So I guess it works.

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 4>But but I mean, gohly, I mean and sometimes you know,

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 4>it's so funny now that you say that, John and

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:54.239
<v Speaker 4>I will missed like their art of choke or they

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 4>have really good bread, you know, the pre bread, or

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 4>like what are their meals? And I love their auhees appetizer,

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.200
<v Speaker 4>and so we're craving one of those, and we missed

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 4>the energy of you know, our friends.

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 3>There are the managers and the owner and everything.

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 4>And then we'll be like, yeah, but do we really

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 4>want to go there because that's so busy because it's

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 4>just everyone always goes there now, you know, and it's

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 4>like they really put them on the.

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Map, this Housewive show. So I don't know, it's just funny.

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:17.199
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it.

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 2>So apparently Taylor, who I'm assuming they mean Taylor Armstrong. Yeah,

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>they said, okay, so I want to hear your version

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 2>of the story. So Tamra said that Taylor was stirring

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 2>the pot and they were talking about Tamra's inability to

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 2>move on. So there, Tamra and Shannon started to get

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 2>into it. Tamra tells Shannon, you're a mess. You can't

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 2>get a man, and you don't own a house. Shannon responds,

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 2>you're the drunk and I guess from there beings went

0:25:58.720 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 2>to ship.

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:02.240
<v Speaker 1>What is your verse of what happened, Alex, I.

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Mean, that's the that's the version that I think happened.

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 4>I just think that I think the other housewives, if anything,

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 4>all the other housewives from the other franchises, what I

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 4>would believe is they probably are like, oh my gosh,

0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 4>this is supposed to.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Be Ultimate Girls Trip.

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 4>This is supposed to be fun, but yet the Housewives

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 4>of OC are bleeding over, you know, their drama, their

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 4>true dramas bleeding over into this event too. I probably think,

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 4>I mean my mind when I heard all that happen.

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 4>That's kind of what I think. It's like, Okay, the

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 4>other housewives probably didn't want any of the OC drama

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 4>at that, you know, right Housewives Trip? What is it

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 4>called Girls Girls Treas? Yeah, so I I don't know,

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 4>but that was pretty brutal what Tamara said. So I

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 4>don't blame Shannon for not wanting to talk to Tamar

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 4>right now. I think they need to sit and hash

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 4>it out. But at the same time, what Tamar said

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 4>is true. Should own a house, shouldn't have a man.

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't care who's who's the drunk. I mean they,

0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we all drink a little alcohol, but like

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 4>I go out with her a lot of times and

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 4>there's no alcohol involved.

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 3>So Tammer's not a drunk at any means.

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm just letting you know, like there's many and many

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 4>of times that there's no alcohol. We just have iced

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 4>tea or coffee or or you know, sparkling waters. So

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say that because I am around the girl

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 4>more than just on a filming occasion.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Because you guys actually have a real friendship.

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 2>So speaking of real friendships, Emily and Jin, First of all,

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Emily looks amazing.

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Right job if you're listening to this or just audio

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>only where reaction that grab my water. The reaction that

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>alexis game was so hilarious.

0:27:54.400 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, alexis what, well, I'll tell you.

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't think you're reading my reaction wrong.

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 4>I do think she I don't want the raindrobes to

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 4>think I was rolling my eyes or making I'm nodded

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 4>my head.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 3>She does look amazing, But the only part.

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 4>That kind of bothers me is she's playing it like

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Shane on something, and she only works out seven days

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 4>a week and eats chicken. And I'm like, sorry, bitch,

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 4>you've been doing that for two or three years, and

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 4>now all of a sudden, you dropped twenty five pounds

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 4>or thirty whatever it is. It's like, no, I'm sorry,

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 4>it's like just own it. Like like when I got

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 4>my boobs, I went down a couple hundred you know

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 4>CC's I was seven hundred I'm down to four fifties down.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 3>I own my shit. You know, It's like, I'm not

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>a hiding stuff. When I got my nose job, I

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 3>did it on.

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.360
<v Speaker 4>National television as he pulled a mile of snot out

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 4>of my head because I needed a sinus redo Like

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I just don't. I can't take it

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 4>when women don't just own it, period, I don't know, Curls.

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:53.840
<v Speaker 4>Am I right or am I wrong?

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>You're liftid.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I've heard from.

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 4>Everyone else, and oh see that what she's on. People

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 4>talk around here. Everyone knows your secrets can't be secrets

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 4>for long when you live in Orange County and I

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 4>worked for a cosmetic and like a little I'm doing

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 4>a little like sidekick with a place that also knows

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 4>some of her It's just like, oh my god, there's

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 4>too much talk and and you just got to own

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 4>it and come out proud owning it.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm glad you said, well no, but.

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe she will, Carlos, Let's give her the benefit of that.

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe she's gonna.

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Say, but this is, first of all, I grab my

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>water at the wrong time.

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Alexis Jansen, Okay, so this here.

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Here's the deal.

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 2>This is when the housewives have to remember the ship

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 2>they said years ago, because I remember every fucking thing.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Emily has admitted.

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>In the past that she was on on Zimpic when

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>it was sort of like everybody admitted it, like back

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>in like.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Twenty twenty twenty one maybe two.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I take that what I said, because then she always.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Out, no, no, I'm agreeing with you, and I'm gonna

0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>tell you why no, no, no, you're.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Right she admitted it like four years ago. Obviously she

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>has gotten much.

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Thinner, right, So when she says in her interview in

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six, I work out seven days a week

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>and I eat chicken, I'm like, let's not also forget

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that you're also on something ozembic, GPL shot something, right.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was weird that she conveniently left

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it out, because my thing is this, It's not like

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you stop using it and then all of a sudden

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>you have lost a lot of more weight, bathe on

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>being in full glam a Taylor Swift hairdoo, and then

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you have on your holo, your Lululemon and you're like,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you're like this on the treadmill, right, and you mean

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>to tell me in full glam at the local Planet

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Fitness that you lost all that way strictly off of

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 2>grilled chicken and seven days a week, come on at

0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 2>in there and don't forget girls ozampic works.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, why do you say that? I thought you're not

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 3>on it?

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>No, meaning that's what she should have said.

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 4>Not me, Oh exactly. Oh yeah, because I asked you before.

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 4>I was like, let's just call him out because you

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.959
<v Speaker 4>look too good, and you're like, no, I'm just vegan,

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 4>and you know.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 3>Just about it, Like, because I guess here's the thing.

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 4>In all of her other interviews and her other other seasons,

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 4>you see her working out.

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 3>That's her thing. She's just like, I work out hard and.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 4>She owns that, and I get that, but she's been

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 4>doing that her whole time. I don't That's why I

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 4>just couldn't buy the whole like chicken and working out.

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 4>She's been working her at ARSAF for a long time,

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 4>and I think she's probably been watching what she's eats

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 4>a lot, a lot. But it's like, I don't know,

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 4>I just I really want I just really want people

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 4>to own it, you.

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Know, I want, Okay, this is the thing.

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I love that we got a chance to see you

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>go through your plastic surgery journey.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>We saw Tammer go through hers. I love that shit.

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>When I'll say this, and I'm not gonna call out names,

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>as I watched your premiere and you tell me you

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>thought the same thing, and maybe you didn't.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>As somebody who.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Does, I do not know where you're going right now?

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, Well, one thing I love about you, You're

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>honest like me.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, as somebody who does not live in OC right,

0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen these women in a year on television.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>As I'm watching the season premiere, I said to myself, Wow,

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of y'all got some work done.

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Looks great, looks good. It's not bad. But my god,

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of y'all got some work done. I'm not

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna name names, but I.

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Will say it's one, two, three, three and a.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Half that I said, Wow.

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>What's the half for? You got a half nose job?

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she looks like that side of her.

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>What up? What up? Down?

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of like, definitely botox.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>But is it great makeup or is it something else

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 2>not a facelift?

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>You can you can kind of tell as the season

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 4>goes on, because sometimes it's just the good lighting or

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 4>the good makeup job, and then then you see kind

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 4>of the reality of it. So I think as a

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 4>season goes on, you'll be able to perfect your three

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 4>and a half. But can you please share it with

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 4>me right now with that three and a half is

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 4>or do you have to text me later? Because I'm

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 4>not gonna let this go. So either you tell the

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 4>rain drops now or I'm texting your hours after. Give

0:33:56.320 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 4>me three and a half.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 2>It.

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Hey, you're not gonna.

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Own it, Okay, right, Okay, don't say anything.

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, the first one's never going to own.

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Anything exactly exactly, Okay.

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>I agree with the other two in behalf. I don't

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 3>really know what you think.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Rain Drops. Goodness the thing y'all know me. I'm a

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 1>straight shooter.

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say because I don't want no

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.919
<v Speaker 2>controversy over I never got any done.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>He's a liar, I don't know for a fact.

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I only say things that I think are factual, like

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Heathery being a fake friend. I cannot factually stay whether

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>or not these ladies. I'm thinking if I got work done,

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 2>but rain Johns let me on the comments. Who you

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>think I'm talking about? But there's three and a half

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 2>that I'm I'm like.

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 4>Whoa, Well, I'm gonna be really honest with you. I

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 4>got something done and you're gonna find out next week.

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I know you already know, but the listeners

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 4>are all gonna know next week. So I am one

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:10.640
<v Speaker 4>that owns it if I do it, honey, and you

0:35:10.680 --> 0:35:12.479
<v Speaker 4>are going to know everything. So if anybody else wants

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 4>to do it, they can go jump on board. Because

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.720
<v Speaker 4>plastic surgeons on this planet, none of us should have issues. Okay,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 4>that's what they're here for. They're here a nip and

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 4>tuck and that's what they're here. That's what OC's about.

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 4>And that's you know, and yeah, plastic why us women

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 4>look as good as we do?

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>And do we think plastic surgeons are able to afford

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>forty million dollar homes?

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 4>About the comanan to ask that, because it's like I

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 4>feel like, well, hear me out, so.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, John, I'm talking about the allegation that Vicki made

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>on her podcast with Christians Know about whether or not.

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I don't care if I hate Vicki,

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>I buy her hilarious. So do Vicki says that she

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>believes that the Bros got their money through inheritance, and

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know any plastic surgeon that has a forty

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 2>million dollar home or empire and is not like our

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 2>He should go snarky. Well, maybe Heather in mey Oscar

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>award winning films got them the money.

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I have two thoughts.

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 4>First of all, Okay, you don't have to just inherit

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 4>money when your parents die. Your parents can give you

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 4>money all along the way and say here's two million

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 4>to put on your first house. Now you flip that one,

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 4>Now you make five money.

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 3>There's ways you can do that.

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's the first thing about You don't have to

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 4>have a parent alive to get money from your parents.

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Thank you aka my children.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:47.439
<v Speaker 4>So anyway, living in the now anyway. The other thing

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 4>is for a doctor tell me if I'm stupid, Carlos,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 4>which I know you will anyway.

0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 3>But if if a doctor.

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 4>Is making really good money and they invest it in

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 4>other things, can't they to twenty million and.

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Forty million dollars home?

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 4>It just want to be just from them going and

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 4>sewing on some boobs. It can totally be like, Okay,

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 4>I made a bunch of money this year, Let's go

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 4>buy this property. No, so that, let's do that, you know,

0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 4>like invest money in other stocks and bonds and market

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, I don't know, so.

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I totally think it. Doctor.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 4>I would love to see where my my two plastic

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 4>surgeons live and see how I'm gonna ask him next

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 4>time I see him.

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>No, you should.

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Now, the thing is this, and Terry de Bro's defense,

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 2>he's a plastic surgeon in the state of California and

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 2>not just stereotype.

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Right. California is one of the largest states.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Of people who get plastic surgery, so it's plausible that

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 2>obviously he's made a shitload of money from his job.

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>But to your point, I'm pretty certain based on the

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>circles he's in that he's also invested in lots of money.

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 2>And look, look, did they also perhaps give money from

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 2>their families? Okay, I don't think the inheritance. The thing

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>that was weird about Heathery getting mad at that comment,

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought when I said I love you a like says,

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I thought the same thing.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, there's so many nepo babies.

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to have a deceased parent to get

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 2>an inheritance. When I look at someone like Heather Debrey's mother, which,

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 2>by the fucking way, at eighty four years old, she

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>looks amazing.

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I love her style.

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:37.479
<v Speaker 4>But real quick, let me add this in before Terry

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 4>de Bro also think about this, has done many other

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 4>TV shows that he's made a fortune on too, So

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't I think that it doesn't matter how they

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 4>got their money. They're obviously very intelligent, very successful people,

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 4>no matter how they get it.

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 3>So who cares? I don't, I just who cares?

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And thanks to our girl Lizzie or Lizzie note him.

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Terry did a podcast where he did stay how he

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 2>invests his money, and I believe that the thing is this.

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that people that Terry operates on are

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 2>people in circles of investments, whether it's their wives or

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the men themselves or vice versa, is just the world

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 2>they in. That's why I find it to be so

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>interesting in that comment. So when it came to Heather

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>being mad at it, I'm like, Heather, there's other things

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they can say about you. I didn't think that was

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>a disc and I don't think Vicky meant it as

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 2>a disc I think Vicky. Look, Vicky loves to remind

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 2>people that she makes her own money and she's proud

0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>of that, and I love that for her. So was

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 2>it a little bit of snarky, Sure, but I don't

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 2>think that's And somebody said to me, Carlo gets his

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 2>money from an inheritance the large sum. I'd be like, thanks, bitch,

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>because my parents did an amazing job working and setting

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>me up for success too, right, so.

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 4>Right, And I mean most wealthy people don't like just

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 4>tell their kids you don't get anything.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 4>You want to try to help your kids as much

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 4>as you can if you've got the means to do it.

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So I want to get into the Valentine's party.

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 2>But before we begin to that, a new girl named

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Carmela was introduced to the show courtesy of Jan What

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 2>are your thoughts?

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean right now, as I've got two broken nails

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 3>on this hand.

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I have been so busy obviously with the wedding

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, so I know everyone's getting see that.

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 3>But I heart her. I so far, it's only the

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 3>first episode. I think she's going to bring something free.

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 4>She has some good singers and is obviously not she

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 4>just brings a whole different kind of feel.

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, what do you think.

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I think the thing is this.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I find to be so

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>interesting is the fact that she's a former play Boy playmate.

0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Right, we're gonna mansion on you in the bunny House

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.160
<v Speaker 4>that Hugh Heffner's keep in mind.

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 3>But she says she didn't have relationships.

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she's one of the girl pretty.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Girls prancing around all the time.

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 3>Not many women can say they've done that.

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So one of the things that I find to

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:28.280
<v Speaker 2>be interesting is that. But again, I think she's somebody

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>who is so different than I'm intrigued by her. Yes,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:38.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's what I like. Like she she's not your

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 2>typical OC housewife in terms of visual and I find

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>that to be something that I look forward to seeing.

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 2>And she's a she gives me that she's she has

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 2>a little kick in her.

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what I love when I said she's she

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 4>brings a different, like a difference to the crew.

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 3>She's a little bit more, she's a little bit more tough.

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 4>She seems a little tougher like like not so like

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 4>some of the girls will kind of sugarcoat things here

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.280
<v Speaker 4>and there and do she just seems like she's bold

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 4>and tough and just kind of stated as it is.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 4>So I really like her little dynamo zest that she's

0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:12.919
<v Speaker 4>bringing right now on the first It's only.

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.439
<v Speaker 3>ABOD episode one, so I don't know.

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 4>And you know what's also interesting, they introduced her on

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 4>episode one, Carlos, most seasons they woul don't introduce the

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 4>new girl to episode two after they've reconnected everyone with

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 4>the past cast, then they bring the new girl in.

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 4>But she was brought out on episode one, so I

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 4>thought that was kind of interesting.

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 2>No, for sure, and that's why for me, I'm like,

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 2>she is somebody who I definitely think is going to

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>be very interesting as a new housewive. So I'm really

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 2>intrigued with her. Bickie decided to come to the party.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>She had assist removed, and before she got into the party,

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 2>she has a braze. She's trying to put a bandage

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 2>on it. Those are the funny moments that I do

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>appreciate about the OC.

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 4>See, she owns what she gets done. She's not She

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 4>went on a facelift back on season like seven or six.

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 4>She went on the TV show when we were filming

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 4>and had just got a facelift, that she comes to

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 4>this party and I'm like, VICKI, what are you doing here?

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:12.959
<v Speaker 4>You had your facelift four days ago or a week ago.

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 4>And she was just like yeah whatever. She just owns

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 4>it and doesn't care. She's just like here I am,

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 4>this is me. And that's what I love about her.

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 4>She's very authentic and her her just herself.

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 3>So love her, love love love it.

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>And I even thought it was funny to.

0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>See Shannon get into her dress outside, you know, like

0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 2>those are the funny moments that I think OC does

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 2>well is playing, you know, into the tropes of the comedy.

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 2>So Heather Debro spent seventy five thousand dollars on this party.

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Not sure where that much money went. Towards.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 4>The drapery alone in that place was probably twenty five

0:43:59.160 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 4>grand just let you know.

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 1>The are you kidding me?

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 3>The red stuff that was all around the walls.

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 4>That stuff's very expensive, Carlos, very expensive to just drape

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 4>the place. I mean, I know all the vendors probably

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 4>came in for free because they wanted pro bono or whatever,

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 4>but like, but like the just it's just I can

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 4>see where the many went, the ice luge, lou luge

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 4>if she almost said.

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 3>What almost said like glob yeah, girl, oh my gosh.

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 4>But the that that's like twenty five hundred unless they

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 4>got that one pro bono too for you know, saying

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 4>that they were the.

0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Ice sculpture place. I don't know, but I can see

0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 3>where the seventy five grand went.

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a good party, and I like the

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>fact that her son Nick hosted it.

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a beautiful party. I thought. I was like, gosh,

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 3>I wish I wouldn't get one that was a cute one.

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Fun, it was really good. So Shannon and Tamar

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>are avoiding each other and we.

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 4>No, nope, no correction, Shannon and Tamar are not. Shannon

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 4>is avoiding Tamra because Tamar was very willing. It looked

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 4>like to me, which I should maybe ask Tamra this

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 4>if maybe I'm speaking out of turn here, but Tamara

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 4>looked to me like she was when when when she

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 4>was talking to Vicky and Shannon walked by, I felt

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 4>like Tamra was watching Shannon just to be able to say,

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.239
<v Speaker 4>like just to wave and say hi, like because the

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:19.680
<v Speaker 4>one thing I know about Tamara is she doesn't really

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:20.720
<v Speaker 4>want to carry grudges.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't.

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh, she's not that, she's She's just like, I just want,

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, we got to do a TV show here,

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Let's just go on with our lives and just work,

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 4>you know. And so I don't know, I think it's

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Shannon is avoiding Tamra. Is what I got from this

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 4>entire episode, including what Shannon always said in all of

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 4>her confessionals, you know, like, just don't talk to me,

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 4>don't wan anything to do with you.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, it puts Vicky in the middle because

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 2>she's friends with Tamarra. She she's friends with Shannon. What

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>advice would you give Vicky because she isn't a rock

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 2>and a hard place, because she loves both women, and

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Shannon's in Mexico with her right Her and tam.

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Are been on the show together since season two.

0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 2>And you could tell that she really misses having this

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.000
<v Speaker 2>treas amigas as a cohesive unit.

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, before I answer your first question, I wanted to

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 4>ask you that do you miss the trace amgas like

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 4>and do you think it is there's a chance that

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 4>would ever come back?

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't care about it. The thing is this,

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna be honest with you. I think a

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.359
<v Speaker 2>lot of times people.

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Involved within the show want to recreate magic.

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:43.439
<v Speaker 2>Based on the heyday of when it was funny and

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 2>great and organic and genuine that these people have relationships

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 2>and they try to recreate the magic years later, but

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.040
<v Speaker 2>too much damage has been done. So because of that,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I have no desire to see treas a megas because

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>it would never be what it was. It's just Shannon

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 2>and Tamara will never ever ever trust each other. They

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 2>will never be able to fully immerse themselves in having

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 2>a real friendship because too much has been done on

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:17.720
<v Speaker 2>both sides, right right, in all fairness on both sides.

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think even when Tamara brought up with her

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 2>and VICKI went through, she was like, that was some

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 2>petty shit, like it was never anything deep. And that's

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 2>why I believe how they are able to reconcile. I

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 2>don't miss it because too much time has passed to

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.640
<v Speaker 2>where they could ever get back to that being organic.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree, I just when I see the flashbacks to it,

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna be honest, I do kind of miss it.

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:46.399
<v Speaker 4>I wish there was a way, but I don't You're right,

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they're ever going to be able to do.

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it could be Vicky and Tamra doing a solo, or.

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 4>It could be Vicky and Shannon doing a solo. So

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 4>back to your question about Vicky, what does she do?

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<v Speaker 4>It's really hard to be the friend in the middle

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 4>because I had to do it for that seat when

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 4>I was with tam season eighteen, when I was in

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 4>between Tamra and Gin, And it's really hard because you're like, girl,

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:07.759
<v Speaker 4>don't talk to me about her because I like her. Girl,

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 4>and talk to me about her because I like her,

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 4>And then it just it's just and neither of them would.

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 4>They were both very very you know, conscious of it,

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 4>and they were very good about just knowing Alexis is

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 4>cut cought in the middle. But at the same time,

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:19.600
<v Speaker 4>how can they either really trust me, both of them,

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 4>because it's kind of like, okay, but you're friends with

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 4>her and I don't like.

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:23.200
<v Speaker 3>What she just did.

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 4>So I think for Vicky, the most important thing she

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 4>can do is put that line in the road right there,

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 4>lying in the sand that don't talk about Shannon, don't

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:33.440
<v Speaker 4>talk about Tamara to me.

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Because I like you both, and just be.

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 4>As authentic as she can and just see where the

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 4>friendships take her and who knows, you know, what scuffles

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 4>any of them are going to get into this season.

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 4>And I would truly like to see where Tamara and

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Shannon could just be at least work cordial, you know works.

0:48:51.120 --> 0:48:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I only care about seeing that.

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.279
<v Speaker 2>I want to see them be cordial because at the

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, They're never going to be what

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 2>they were, and I'm okay with that. As a you are,

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. I rather see, Honestly, I'd rather

0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 2>see Tamera and Vickie's friendship and and moments from those

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:21.120
<v Speaker 2>two because they have so much history and I I

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:24.960
<v Speaker 2>find them to be more genuine as a person than Shannon.

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Shannon is not.

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I don't think Shannon is a genuine

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 2>human being. I just think she's self absorbed and only

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 2>cares about herself and Archie and her kids.

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 3>Well, she's got Troy now, she has what Roy. Don't

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 3>forget you have Troy, who's true her new dog.

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's it? So all right, So we we touched

0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 1>on this a little bit.

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Jen tells Tamera jin Jin was the all star in

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 2>this episode.

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 3>She got muscles this season.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Look she looks gorgeous.

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:18.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean I mean muscles.

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean muscles in like the in like not just this,

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 4>but like in the fact that she's so strong, not

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.719
<v Speaker 4>just her muscles that are physically there, but like just

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 4>the strength she's bringing to be able to call this

0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 4>out and say, cause two years ago, I don't think

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:32.800
<v Speaker 4>she would have done that. She was kind of getting

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 4>her feet wet in the whole show, you know, I mean,

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 4>I just did be like, Wow, someone has to bring in.

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 4>If Tamra's not gonna this season, someone's got to be

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 4>the one to be the bold one.

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>So agreed, agreed, and Jen does it well to where

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 2>she's so likable that the women can't be mad at

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 2>her for doing her job.

0:50:50.760 --> 0:50:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I get it, you have to do it.

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 2>So she tells Tamra, like, look, Heather said at dinner

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 2>where you weren't present post reunion that she puts you

0:51:02.920 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>in a box. She knows how to compartmentalize the friendship

0:51:07.080 --> 0:51:10.240
<v Speaker 2>she has with you. And the look on Tamra's face

0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:15.040
<v Speaker 2>was like it was it was so real. She did

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 2>not know this Tama was caught off guard, and I

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 2>think I think Tamra in that moment. Alexis was like,

0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I can't give them old Tama.

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I need to leave. I feel the grit.

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, she's like telling her ears, no smoke, don't blow,

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 4>don't blow your gasket, Tarra.

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 3>So her face was kind of like.

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 4>What do I do in a situation like this one?

0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 4>I want to punch them. I want to go punch somebody.

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Ye, yes, yes.

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.880
<v Speaker 4>She was like holding it together, holding it together, and

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 4>she probably got in that car and.

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Was like, you know, Caughtaddy went off. I felt bad

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>for her.

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.400
<v Speaker 2>But the best part, to me, this is why shout

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:10.239
<v Speaker 2>out to the producers for this moment. The best part

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:15.600
<v Speaker 2>to me, you could not script it. As Tamra is

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 2>being told this information by Jen, Heather de bro walks

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:24.560
<v Speaker 2>up and Tamra refuses to give her eye contact, and

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:25.879
<v Speaker 2>Heaven's like, what's going on?

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>What happened? What was being said?

0:52:29.440 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 2>And Tama's like, I'm gonna leave, thanks for the party, goodnight,

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:37.320
<v Speaker 2>takes her boxes her swag and leaves, and have is

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>like what the fuck? And Jen's like, I told her

0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 2>what you said? And just like you fucking bitch, Like

0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I just started to get back and go graceious with

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:52.839
<v Speaker 2>this woman, and here we are. And I loved it

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 2>because if I'm going to see Heather de bro get

0:52:55.840 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 2>checked this season for being duplicitus and a double agent,

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 2>season twenty, you have me where you started, you know.

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Carlos, I have to say this.

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:10.840
<v Speaker 4>You and I were both like, after watching that trailer,

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 4>Let's be honest, we were both like, gosh, this is

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 4>going to be a boring season. And then I thought

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:18.840
<v Speaker 4>after episode one, I'm like, Season twenty has me hooked.

0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait. I am so like, wow, this is good,

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 3>this is good stuff.

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:26.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah that I thought it was a great premiere.

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:27.879
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I did too.

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 4>I was very happily surprised and loved loved it, loved it.