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Speaker 5: Hi.
Speaker 4: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 4: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 4: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 4: that our loved ones have survive physical death, and so
Speaker 4: will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Did I
Speaker 4: ever tell you I take requests. I know a lot
Speaker 4: of people who deal with afterlife and afterlife communication, but
Speaker 4: I don't know everyone. So we have listener Karen d
Speaker 4: to thank for this one. She reached out and asked
Speaker 4: if I could share an episode with Joshua Lewis, who
Speaker 4: created the Hope spirit Box app. Yes to communicate with
Speaker 4: your loved ones, So thank you, Karen. Let me tell
Speaker 4: you about josh He's spent many years studying clairvoyance, connecting
Speaker 4: people with their deceased loved ones as a medium. He's
Speaker 4: author of the book Finding Hope in the Afterlife, and
Speaker 4: he's creator of the Hope spirit Box app and HSB
Speaker 4: Pro computer program, which uses instrumental communication along with the
Speaker 4: user's intuitive abilities to communicate with your loved ones in
Speaker 4: the afterlife. Joshua also hosts a very popular YouTube channel
Speaker 4: called Hope Paranormal. So here is my interview with Joshua Lewis.
Speaker 5: My story is a little unconventional. Over twenty years ago,
Speaker 5: I kind of had a rough past. I definitely got
Speaker 5: into trouble a lot. I had addiction in my life
Speaker 5: and I had to deal with that and overcome that.
Speaker 5: And when I came out the other side of that,
Speaker 5: I was fortunate enough to make some money for myself
Speaker 5: and some businesses that I had started. And when I
Speaker 5: did that, I started really focusing more on the spiritual
Speaker 5: side of what there is. And I've always felt a
Speaker 5: spirituality but I was curious as to what was out there.
Speaker 5: I saw shows like ghost Adventures and stuff. I didn't
Speaker 5: know what to really believe. Were they showing us stuff
Speaker 5: that was dramatized or was it real? So I just
Speaker 5: started taking myself out into the field, cemeteries in other places,
Speaker 5: abandoned buildings, more of a paranormal investigation. And I started
Speaker 5: recording very clear voices saying my name, saying their name,
Speaker 5: saying the light, all kinds of other things that they
Speaker 5: were talking about, and there was no mistake that that
Speaker 5: was real. I just kept going further, and I didn't
Speaker 5: realize that I was going to get way more than
Speaker 5: I bargained for. And here i am over a decade later,
Speaker 5: and I'm doing some pretty amazing things that I give
Speaker 5: credit to the big guy upstairs. And that's how it is.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there was some really instrumental, key moments in
Speaker 5: my spirituality that really helped me, even before I even
Speaker 5: got into the investigation part of it. I mean, there
Speaker 5: was some really awesome things that happened to me. The
Speaker 5: most pivotal experience for me, I think was I was
Speaker 5: really at the bottom when I was in my addiction.
Speaker 5: It was I think in around two thy ninety nine,
Speaker 5: and I was really down and out know really where
Speaker 5: to turn, and I kind of burned my bridges with
Speaker 5: my family, my friends. I jumped in my car around
Speaker 5: two in the morning. I was driving around almost aimlessly,
Speaker 5: and I wanted to confess my sins. I wanted to
Speaker 5: find someone I could talk to. I was in my car,
Speaker 5: I was praying, and I was talking to myself and
Speaker 5: I was talking to God, and I was saying, I
Speaker 5: really need help. I don't know where to go. I
Speaker 5: don't know where to turn. And I saw this church,
Speaker 5: and of course the church has closed at two in
Speaker 5: the morning, but there's this little grotto, this little spot
Speaker 5: that you can go in and put a dollar in
Speaker 5: the candle section, and there's a couple of little pews kneelers.
Speaker 5: I walked in and I was looking over at the rectree.
Speaker 5: There's no lights, there's no one there, so I just
Speaker 5: I walked into the grotto. It's the Blessed Mother with
Speaker 5: the statue and the baby Jesus, and I put the
Speaker 5: dollar in. I lit the candle, and I kneeled and
Speaker 5: I was praying and I was crying. Eventually, this little
Speaker 5: old lady walked in. She was holding this little dog
Speaker 5: and she she didn't say anything. She walked over, she
Speaker 5: lit a candle and then she kneeled in the only
Speaker 5: other kneeler next to me. Again, all I wanted was
Speaker 5: to confess my sins. But again I didn't say anything
Speaker 5: to this woman. I actually started praying for her dog.
Speaker 5: I started praying for her. I thought maybe she needed
Speaker 5: some help. And that was like one of the first
Speaker 5: times I took the attention off me and put it
Speaker 5: on someone else. And she just looked over at me
Speaker 5: without saying anything at first, and she put her hand
Speaker 5: on my shoulder and she said, would you like to
Speaker 5: confess your sins? I thought I was crying hard then,
Speaker 5: but boy, I started even crying harder even when she
Speaker 5: said that to me. And she pulled out this little
Speaker 5: black book in like a priest wood, and she said,
Speaker 5: you know, you can confess your sins. And I unloaded.
Speaker 5: I dumped on her. And afterwards, you know, she gave
Speaker 5: me a couple of the prayers to say, kind of
Speaker 5: like appendance or whatever. And she went around her neck
Speaker 5: and she took this thing called a scapular. And it's
Speaker 5: something that we get like first Holy Communion and I
Speaker 5: was raised Catholic, but I don't claim to be really religious.
Speaker 5: I'm just a spiritual guy. She took this off her
Speaker 5: neck and she said, I want to give this to you.
Speaker 5: She goes, God wants you to have this, and I
Speaker 5: said I cannot take that kind of gift, and she said, well,
Speaker 5: it was my father's on his deathbed. He gave it
Speaker 5: to me, and I'm giving it to you. God wants
Speaker 5: you to have it. And I tried to deny it again,
Speaker 5: but she said, no, you have to take it, and
Speaker 5: I took it as quickly as she was there, she
Speaker 5: was gone. But that really shaped my faith. It really
Speaker 5: helped me understand that there was a higher power, a
Speaker 5: loving higher power that is there. What it told me
Speaker 5: was that no matter what the circumstances were, I felt
Speaker 5: that my higher power could move mountains to put someone
Speaker 5: in my path if I needed it, And that was
Speaker 5: unbelievable for me. That situation never left me, that experience
Speaker 5: never left me, and so ever since then, I've always
Speaker 5: felt that when I pray and I talked to my
Speaker 5: higher power, God, he's listening. So that was a really
Speaker 5: powerful moment for me. She gave you hope. She gave
Speaker 5: me hope. She gave me houp. That's a perfect way
Speaker 5: to say it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we need that, we need to know that
Speaker 4: we're supported absolutely from the invisible source, but also from
Speaker 4: human beings working through that. So you clean yourself up.
Speaker 5: I've got nineteen years sober now. Yeah, agulations, thank you.
Speaker 4: And you have a family, right, I do.
Speaker 5: Have a beautiful family. I have two daughters with a
Speaker 5: third on the way. I feel second to none. I've
Speaker 5: always been an entrepreneur. I've always loved business. I've had
Speaker 5: some properties and some other businesses, but it's been hard
Speaker 5: to just continue to do business when I've found out
Speaker 5: what I have found out. So I've kind of dedicated myself.
Speaker 5: I make a fraction of what I used to make,
Speaker 5: and that's okay. Sometimes it is a little tough, but
Speaker 5: I don't care because I do receive messages from people
Speaker 5: that I'm working with, patrons, clients, followers that have read
Speaker 5: the book or use the app, or have had a
Speaker 5: reading with me or a session with me, and the
Speaker 5: amount of hope that they get, the amount of peace
Speaker 5: that they get, it's unmistakable, just amazing. I don't take
Speaker 5: credit for that. I always deflect and give it up
Speaker 5: to him, because I feel, just like that lady in
Speaker 5: the grotto that night, that God was using her as
Speaker 5: an extension of him. I feel like to help me
Speaker 5: and hopefully that is how I'm being used at times.
Speaker 5: That's all I can ask for. So that's really what
Speaker 5: I'm trying to do on a regular basis, if I can.
Speaker 4: Congratulations. Now, when did you get into the medium side
Speaker 4: of things and start studying clairvoyance? Was that before paranormal stuff?
Speaker 4: During that investment?
Speaker 5: Great question. Yeah, So right after I was capturing these
Speaker 5: recordings on my equipment, my early basic voice recorders and
Speaker 5: PSB seven spear box stuff out in the field, I
Speaker 5: ended up finding a medium. You know, I didn't know
Speaker 5: much about mediumship or mediums. I watched John Works and
Speaker 5: crossing Over and that to me was like the most
Speaker 5: amazing thing ever, you know, and some Sylvia Brown and
Speaker 5: so those were some amazing people, I thought. But a
Speaker 5: friend of mine said, oh, there's this medium that I
Speaker 5: know and you should work with her. So I invited
Speaker 5: her out to come with us out to one of
Speaker 5: our locations, a place that I already had recorded some
Speaker 5: stuff there and got some names and I didn't tell
Speaker 5: her anything. I was kind of a skeptic with the mediumship.
Speaker 5: And so she comes out and she starts getting names
Speaker 5: and things that I already had known or picked up
Speaker 5: through the gear. And so working with her for maybe
Speaker 5: a couple months, not even she said to my partner Nicki,
Speaker 5: she said, you're going to start picking up messages yourself.
Speaker 5: And Nikki was kind of like, yeah, okay, right, you know.
Speaker 5: And one night it happened where I came home, I
Speaker 5: think it was around Christmas time, and Nikki she says,
Speaker 5: you know, I feel a little different. I said, what
Speaker 5: does that mean? She goes ask me about someone that
Speaker 5: you know that passed that you've never talked to me about,
Speaker 5: or you know, asked me about something. And I started
Speaker 5: asking her and she was dead on right, and she
Speaker 5: was exactly right. So we were just kind of doing
Speaker 5: sessions together, just Nicki and I sitting out front, sitting
Speaker 5: in our garage, just hanging out, and she's getting all
Speaker 5: these messages and she gets a message herself and she says,
Speaker 5: you're going to start getting stuff yourself. And again I
Speaker 5: kind of balked at that, and just like it happened
Speaker 5: for her, it happened for me where I felt different
Speaker 5: one night and I felt there was something going on.
Speaker 5: Once I felt that, I said, lead me in the
Speaker 5: right direction. You've been leading me in this direction all along.
Speaker 5: Lead me in the right direction. And that's when I
Speaker 5: found Debrelyn Katz, PhD. She has the International School of Clairvoyance,
Speaker 5: and she started out as a Federal probation officer that
Speaker 5: just went to go get a meditation class and saw
Speaker 5: that there was an entry level intuitive class for her
Speaker 5: to take, and she started taking it. So I found
Speaker 5: her and I signed up with some courses with her
Speaker 5: just because I felt like, now I have this ability,
Speaker 5: but I don't know how to use it. I don't
Speaker 5: know exactly what to do with it or exactly what's
Speaker 5: going on. And so one of the first calls I
Speaker 5: had with Debra, she was amazing. She says, all right,
Speaker 5: she goes, I'm going to do something with you right now.
Speaker 5: She goes, I'm going to give you a name, just
Speaker 5: a first name, and I'm not going to tell you
Speaker 5: anything else, and that's it. And for thirty minutes, I
Speaker 5: want you to just tell me what you get on
Speaker 5: this name. And that's a little nerve racking because you
Speaker 5: don't know what you're getting if it's right. She's not
Speaker 5: going to give me any feedback, she said. She goes,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to stay quiet for thirty minutes, and
Speaker 5: you're going to tell me what you're getting. She says
Speaker 5: the name Manny. That's all she says. And I'm like,
Speaker 5: I see this young boy, maybe in his teens, I said.
Speaker 5: I see him riding like a quad, a four wheeler
Speaker 5: around in the desert. I see a sombrero. I see
Speaker 5: him playing a guitar. I feel like I see him
Speaker 5: smoking a joint. This is all random stuff, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't know what this means. I said, I feel
Speaker 5: like he's of mix ethnicity. And so I gave her
Speaker 5: all these things and then at the end she goes,
Speaker 5: all right, we're going to stop there. I just want
Speaker 5: to tell you. She goes, Manny is my son, and
Speaker 5: he's not deceased. He's alive. And she goes, you know,
Speaker 5: we live in the desert. He rides his squad, his
Speaker 5: four wheeler all around. He's got this big sombrero hanging
Speaker 5: on his wall, and he sits there on his bed
Speaker 5: and he plays the guitar. And his father is Filipino
Speaker 5: and I'm white. I don't know if he's smoking weed yet,
Speaker 5: but she goes, maybe you told on him. But he's
Speaker 5: a good kid, so I'm not too worried about it.
Speaker 5: And it was just a really amazing moment because it
Speaker 5: was an undeniable moment. Maybe it doesn't always work that
Speaker 5: way every single time, because you know, it's not an
Speaker 5: exact science, but that, without a doubt, proved to me
Speaker 5: that when I tune in, I could pick up very
Speaker 5: accurate information.
Speaker 4: It's time for us to take a quick break, but
Speaker 4: we'll come right back with Joshua Lewis and find out
Speaker 4: how this medium invented the Hope Paranormal Spirit Box app
Speaker 4: to connect with your loved ones. You're listening to Shades
Speaker 4: of the Afterlife on the iHeart Radio and Coast to
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Speaker 3: Stay there, Sandra will be right back.
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Speaker 4: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Speaker 4: Paranormal podcast network, heard on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Speaker 4: or wherever you find your favorite shows. Welcome back to
Speaker 4: Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and we are
Speaker 4: with the creator of the Hope Paranormal spirit Box app
Speaker 4: for connecting with your loved ones, Joshua Lewis. He just
Speaker 4: finished telling us about his first experiences doing mediumship.
Speaker 5: Here's more, when I tune in, I can pick up
Speaker 5: very accurate information. So now, three thousand readings later, I've
Speaker 5: done just mediumship readings alone, without any equipment or anything.
Speaker 5: It's a remarkable experience. And I joke and I say
Speaker 5: that I've never done something so much and still not
Speaker 5: know what the heck I'm doing, because every time I
Speaker 5: go to sit down and do a reading, there is
Speaker 5: this little human logical doubt of is this going to work.
Speaker 5: I can't quantify it. I can't say now I'm a
Speaker 5: professional reader, even though there's experience there, and I can
Speaker 5: say I'm a train medium. So that in addition to
Speaker 5: doing the ITC, which you mentioned instrumental transcommunication, which is
Speaker 5: using equipment to bring through the loved one. I've done
Speaker 5: over five hundred Box sessions for grieving parents, spouses, all
Speaker 5: walks of life. I have patrons that are paying members.
Speaker 5: They take part in my group sessions or they book
Speaker 5: a private session with me, and the messages are pretty powerful.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the box, because not many people know
Speaker 4: what it is. And it's one thing to be capturing EVPs.
Speaker 4: I've done tons of that. It's a whole other thing
Speaker 4: to say I want to create an app in a
Speaker 4: computer program that people can use to connect with their
Speaker 4: own loved ones.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's true. The presentation that I did at the
Speaker 5: sci Fest twenty twenty three that was put on by
Speaker 5: the Monroe Institute and the International Remote Viewing Association, it
Speaker 5: was a presentation I gave in front of two hundred
Speaker 5: and twenty people and it was just an amazing experience
Speaker 5: to be there. But you know what's interesting, I tell
Speaker 5: this joke in that presentation that you know you're working
Speaker 5: on something crazy when other mediums and other psychics say
Speaker 5: what I'm doing is crazy, Like that's just really wild.
Speaker 5: People have two reactions to what I do. It's either
Speaker 5: holy crap, it's the most amazing thing I've ever seen,
Speaker 5: or holy crap, this is fake. And I don't blame them.
Speaker 5: I have to deal with that kind of skepticism on
Speaker 5: a regular basis. I feel like I've gotten better at
Speaker 5: dealing with it, but it is tough because this is
Speaker 5: different than just giving mediumship readings, or like you said,
Speaker 5: just capturing an EVP of a yes or a no
Speaker 5: or something in a whisper. What I'm doing is I'm
Speaker 5: giving Spirit wordless human sound. So there's no words in it.
Speaker 5: It's all gibberish. It's reversed, it's slowed, it's chopped up
Speaker 5: into small two second increments randomized, so it's just human sound.
Speaker 5: And we give that to Spirit to you use in
Speaker 5: order for them to take that gibberish and form their
Speaker 5: own responses with. And I've been proving the legitimacy of it,
Speaker 5: and I give everyone the same tools for them to use.
Speaker 5: It's not like it's a proprietary box that only I
Speaker 5: can work and only I can use. I'm giving everyone
Speaker 5: the opportunity. The app is free the Hope Spirit Boxes
Speaker 5: for iOS or Android. It is free for anyone to use,
Speaker 5: and there's forty thousand active users on it right now,
Speaker 5: and many people have sent me recordings of their loved
Speaker 5: ones that they've captured. I can hear them getting direct
Speaker 5: responses themselves. They don't need me to do that. And
Speaker 5: then I created the HSB Pro, which is the computer version,
Speaker 5: which is a little bit more advanced. That is a
Speaker 5: paid version. It's five dollars a month to use the
Speaker 5: HSB Pro, which and you can cancel any time, so
Speaker 5: it's really just for your own research and your own experimentation,
Speaker 5: so there's no risk. I mean, you can try it
Speaker 5: for one month and if you don't want to do
Speaker 5: it anymore, you don't. But the app alone for free
Speaker 5: is still an amazing tool to use. But that's what
Speaker 5: it is and what I've been able to capture with
Speaker 5: the help of my guides on the other side. There's
Speaker 5: an amazing team of souls on the other side that
Speaker 5: are working with me. I hear them coming through the
Speaker 5: person that's getting the reading or doing the session with me.
Speaker 5: They have to tap into their own connection with their
Speaker 5: loved one. They've got the connection to the loved one,
Speaker 5: not me, so I can connect intuitively, but if I'm
Speaker 5: going to reach one of your loved ones, you've got
Speaker 5: to be present. You've really got to be asking them
Speaker 5: to come through. And I send people a very brief,
Speaker 5: fifteen minute meditation for them to do before they do
Speaker 5: the session with me, and then that loved one on
Speaker 5: the other side has to put forth some effort and
Speaker 5: energy to really come through. And it's not easy. But
Speaker 5: in every session I do, I capture really amazing responses.
Speaker 5: I have this follower named Kimberly, and I have many
Speaker 5: examples like this, but this is one of the coolest ones.
Speaker 5: I always share this one because it's so cool. Kimberly
Speaker 5: was this beautiful soul. She was intuitive herself, and she
Speaker 5: followed my work for a while and then she had
Speaker 5: cancer and she called me and she said it's terminal.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna make it. And she goes, I'm going
Speaker 5: to have my family reach out to you when I passed,
Speaker 5: and I would love for you to reach me on
Speaker 5: the other side. And I said, of course, I'll do that.
Speaker 5: I'll do that for free. I don't care. I'll do
Speaker 5: whatever I can. Many months later, her husband, Chris contacted
Speaker 5: me and said, you know, Kimberly passed and she wanted
Speaker 5: me to contact you and wanted you to get a
Speaker 5: hold of her. And I said, all right, So I
Speaker 5: did a session on my own without Chris there. I
Speaker 5: just did a session asking for her to come through.
Speaker 5: She came through. She said that she was okay, and
Speaker 5: that she's love and light and that she was confirming
Speaker 5: a lot of beautiful things and it was wonderful. And
Speaker 5: I sent that recording to Chris and he was blown away.
Speaker 5: But he said, Josh, I hear the messages. It's really power,
Speaker 5: but don't be offended. Please. How do I know it's
Speaker 5: her though? And I said it's a great question, Chris,
Speaker 5: it's a great question. I said, you know, I can't
Speaker 5: guarantee that every person I'm reaching is that person. All
Speaker 5: I can do is intuitively connect to them and then
Speaker 5: ask for them to come through the box and the equipment.
Speaker 5: And he said, can I ask a validating question? And
Speaker 5: I said sure. He goes ask her what the term
Speaker 5: musk rat means and I said, okay, So I fired
Speaker 5: up my boxes again and I asked, Kimberly, what does
Speaker 5: the term musk rat mean? What's that mean to you?
Speaker 5: And she said it's in the back of my head.
Speaker 5: We had to shave my head. And that was it.
Speaker 5: Two responses, and I captioned them and I sent that
Speaker 5: back to Chris, and Chris he has sent me a
Speaker 5: text back and he said it was perfect, perfect response.
Speaker 5: And I said, well, I'm really glad. What does it
Speaker 5: mean though, And he said, well, towards the end, she
Speaker 5: was bedridden and she was worried about the back of
Speaker 5: her head her hair getting matted, so I'd have to
Speaker 5: lift her head and I would comb her hair, and
Speaker 5: eventually we had to shave her head. And I would
Speaker 5: call her my little muskrat. And that was something between
Speaker 5: the two of them that only they knew. There was
Speaker 5: no doubt. And so I've captured many responses like that
Speaker 5: where someone may ask a validating question that you can't
Speaker 5: spend the whole session just asking only validating questions. You
Speaker 5: kind of have to believe enough and really exchange love
Speaker 5: and exchange the communications. And I think it's a fair
Speaker 5: thing to do. We have to believe, but we also
Speaker 5: need some evidence to believe sometimes, you know, so really remarkable, So.
Speaker 4: Not just the app. You actually have a physical box, right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Have a physical box, and so the app and the
Speaker 5: program are using inspirations from that, but the app and
Speaker 5: the program have gone way further than the box. But
Speaker 5: now it's about really utilizing the tools in the program
Speaker 5: because not everyone is able to have a box, or
Speaker 5: to build a box, or to spend thousands of dollars
Speaker 5: in getting a box. So the app alone, for free,
Speaker 5: does what the box does and more. The program is
Speaker 5: an all in one station and it's not easy for
Speaker 5: everyone to use. Some people will say, well, you know,
Speaker 5: all I'm hearing is gibberish, and I'm going, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what the sound source is. So it's either a
Speaker 5: couple things. Either they're not coming through yet because it
Speaker 5: takes a little bit of time to work. It takes
Speaker 5: some focus, takes some persistence and some connection, or they're
Speaker 5: saying something and you're just not understanding it yet because
Speaker 5: it's not as clear as you and I talking. But
Speaker 5: you can get the direct yes it's me, I'm here.
Speaker 5: The names will be said what color is this, and
Speaker 5: they'll say the color, how many fingers in my holding on?
Speaker 5: They'll give you way more than that. But for someone
Speaker 5: that's a layman that they're just kind of starting out,
Speaker 5: may take a little bit of time to kind of
Speaker 5: work it, but anything that's worth it takes a little
Speaker 5: bit of effort.
Speaker 4: I first heard it about it from a mom who
Speaker 4: told me about it because she knew I'd done tons
Speaker 4: of EVP work and I hadn't heard of it, So like, oh,
Speaker 4: I got to download this whatever it is, and she
Speaker 4: sent me a couple of recordings she had, and in truth,
Speaker 4: I couldn't hear what she heard. I know from all
Speaker 4: my EVP works that we have to use our own
Speaker 4: intuition with some Some are loud and clear, you can
Speaker 4: hear the s andl I mean, that's all real. Some
Speaker 4: we have to use our intuition. And I would never
Speaker 4: tell a mom I can't hear it. It's that's great.
Speaker 4: Keep doing it when we are grieving, and I'm sure
Speaker 4: you've dealt with loss as well. To be able to
Speaker 4: channel that energy into something constructive is amazing. And I
Speaker 4: also believe Joshua that when we head over to the
Speaker 4: other side, it's not like we're given a manual with
Speaker 4: all information in the universe. I think we need to
Speaker 4: learn how to do this. And my ninety one year
Speaker 4: old grandmother this might not be her deal, but a
Speaker 4: young man that I know that was big on electronics
Speaker 4: and always on his phone might be a thing you
Speaker 4: want to talk about some of that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's very true. The majority of the people I
Speaker 5: ask for are people's loved ones, Okay, but I also
Speaker 5: ask for well known people. And I can't say that
Speaker 5: I know for sure that I've got these well known
Speaker 5: people coming through, but I ask for people that I
Speaker 5: feel a connection to. I've asked for Anthony Bourdain and
Speaker 5: John Candy, and I've asked for so many different people.
Speaker 5: And it is amazing how some people on the other
Speaker 5: side can use the stuff better than others. Like you
Speaker 5: just said, so, some of the older people sometimes are
Speaker 5: a little bit slower to get it working. On the
Speaker 5: other side, some of the younger people, and they work
Speaker 5: it pretty well. Some of the well known entertainers, I
Speaker 5: feel like they've been able to work it exceptionally well,
Speaker 5: I think. But I try to explain the process to
Speaker 5: the spirit, to the soul as I'm doing it, like hey,
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you a question, and then I'm
Speaker 5: going to slide this gate open and let some sound
Speaker 5: come out and a little light's going to come on.
Speaker 5: And sometimes it takes them a little bit of warm
Speaker 5: up to get it going, and I just keep on
Speaker 5: working at trying to improve it. What's cool about the
Speaker 5: program is that it's an ever evolving program for me
Speaker 5: that I can continue to do things to improve it.
Speaker 5: Maybe the box is kind of locked in where it's
Speaker 5: at and I can't do too much to that anymore,
Speaker 5: but with the program, I can keep on finding ways
Speaker 5: to improve it. And so that's what we're doing, me
Speaker 5: and my developer, and we'll sit on the phone for
Speaker 5: hours and we'll listen to some feedback from other people.
Speaker 5: And what I'm getting feedback from the spirit saying you
Speaker 5: need to put a light. Someone said on the other side,
Speaker 5: you need to put a light there on the box.
Speaker 5: So I added a light so that every time when
Speaker 5: you slide the gate open, the minute you open it up,
Speaker 5: and that's how it works. It stays quiet and the
Speaker 5: sound runs in the background where you can't hear it.
Speaker 5: So you pick a sound that would fit that loved one,
Speaker 5: like a man's voice or a woman's voice, and you
Speaker 5: have to focus.
Speaker 4: We're going to head to a break, but hey, you
Speaker 4: might want to download the Hope Spirit Box app and
Speaker 4: Joshua will give us some instructions and more when we
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 4: Let's hear more from Joshua Lewis, creator of the Hope
Speaker 4: Spirit Box app.
Speaker 5: I've worked with BIX, the Big Low Institute of Consciousness Studies.
Speaker 5: I've worked with some forensic audio experts. I've worked with
Speaker 5: a number of other people, and I continue to look
Speaker 5: for other professional and other institutes to work with. I
Speaker 5: want to share this work with others. But a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't realize that in order for the equipment
Speaker 5: to work, you have to be tapping into the intuition,
Speaker 5: and so that's not very scientific to scientists. Someone who's
Speaker 5: going to be very rigid, their results may vary from
Speaker 5: someone like you or I who know to use our
Speaker 5: intuitive ability. So if I focus on a loved one
Speaker 5: or a person, I see their face, I invite them in,
Speaker 5: I dialogue with them even before turning on an app
Speaker 5: or a program or a box, then when I go
Speaker 5: to use the equipment, it will work better. So that's
Speaker 5: what I have found. We're just continuing to improve it.
Speaker 5: That's all I can say. I guess, you know, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's good.
Speaker 4: Is it important you think that people take that fifteen
Speaker 4: minutes quiet their mind, talk to their loved one, get
Speaker 4: into that space. I personally do anytime I did EVP work,
Speaker 4: I to always create space, create the energy, or visualize it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean there are patrons that sometimes partake in
Speaker 5: the group sessions and maybe they say they didn't have
Speaker 5: time to do my little meditation that I sent them,
Speaker 5: and it will still work because their loved one is
Speaker 5: still willing to come through. But I find that the
Speaker 5: results are not as strong. And so the meditation I
Speaker 5: send people is the brief seven minute grounding where you
Speaker 5: ground yourself. You visualize grounding yourself to the earth and
Speaker 5: having like a grounding cord and you, you know, send
Speaker 5: out any kind of residual, crappy energy that you might
Speaker 5: have picked up from the world, and you call down
Speaker 5: the light through you and you really center yourself. And
Speaker 5: then the second part of that meditation is walking into
Speaker 5: an astral room and inviting your loved one to come
Speaker 5: into the room with you and envisioning seeing them there,
Speaker 5: giving them a hug, smelling them, peering them, feeling them.
Speaker 5: You know, I say, touch their face, give them a rose.
Speaker 5: There's a couple things that I have you do in
Speaker 5: that meditation, and many times people have an experience with
Speaker 5: that even before they even do the session with me.
Speaker 5: They're like, I saw them, I had this great feeling
Speaker 5: with them. So it's almost like you can do that
Speaker 5: without even having to do a session with me. And
Speaker 5: I've said that to people many times, just to do
Speaker 5: when they can't afford a reading or something. I'll say, here,
Speaker 5: there's free options for you to do on your own.
Speaker 5: I don't need to make money off you. It's not
Speaker 5: about that. It's I don't make very much anyway, so
Speaker 5: it's just about helping you get an experience. So yes,
Speaker 5: it is important to really focus, take that time and
Speaker 5: focus and call them in before you do any other
Speaker 5: kind of work.
Speaker 4: From all my twenty six years sitting in the afterlife,
Speaker 4: I know that the top way people come through through
Speaker 4: our imaginations, through our memories, through our feelings, and it
Speaker 4: is the first thing that people will throw away as
Speaker 4: it's just my imagination and you know, through being a medium.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how it works. That's what they works, that's
Speaker 5: how it is.
Speaker 4: So to trust you know when you've given the meditation
Speaker 4: that that could be that, and keep working on it.
Speaker 4: I would always say when I did the EVP stuff,
Speaker 4: make a date with your loved ones. Okay on Tuesday
Speaker 4: and Thursday at seven o'clock, I'm going to be here.
Speaker 4: We're going to do that right and let them practice
Speaker 4: as well. Right, keep a journal, right, because the mind
Speaker 4: is going to want to tell you that was your imagination.
Speaker 5: I tell people write down these responses because we forget
Speaker 5: them and our mind starts to discount them. What you've
Speaker 5: said is exactly right. Set dates, set times, you know.
Speaker 5: I got to say Pam Johnson, she's got Soulmates in
Speaker 5: the Afterlife, and she's got this great group where she's
Speaker 5: teaching people how to have an ongoing relationship with their
Speaker 5: spouse or with their loved one on the other side.
Speaker 5: And I had been teaching people that same stuff already,
Speaker 5: and then to find out that she's got this group
Speaker 5: and she's doing that. You know. She came to me
Speaker 5: and she got a session with her husband, Alan on
Speaker 5: the other side, and Alan came through exceptionally well. He
Speaker 5: was great. Many of her other members that had spouses
Speaker 5: on the other side saw that session and they came
Speaker 5: to me and the things that they were able to say.
Speaker 5: I told her, I said, because of the work that
Speaker 5: you've done with these people and prepping them, it's made
Speaker 5: their sessions that much stronger. When they came to me.
Speaker 5: One woman just recently, she did a session with me
Speaker 5: where she was asking for her husband and she said,
Speaker 5: I feel like my husband is building a house for
Speaker 5: us on the other side to live it, you know,
Speaker 5: and to anyone here on earth, that sounds a little wild, right,
Speaker 5: but we don't discount it because there's so many things
Speaker 5: that have been already validated. So anyway, so we're doing
Speaker 5: the session, I'm asking for him to come through the box,
Speaker 5: and at the end of the session, I offer people
Speaker 5: not just the session, but I offer a photography session,
Speaker 5: kind of like what Sonya Ronaldi does, which is just
Speaker 5: amazing what she's done. I saw that documentary that you
Speaker 5: were in with her, and so she's really cool. And
Speaker 5: so I do some stuff with water. Itc digital, itc
Speaker 5: the matrixing of the cameras and stuff. So I asked
Speaker 5: him the husband. I said, she feels that there's a
Speaker 5: house that you're building on the other side. Can you
Speaker 5: confirm that? And he goes, yes, a big, lovely house,
Speaker 5: he says, it through the box. And then after that
Speaker 5: I go to the water. It s it's a bowl
Speaker 5: of water with a light aimed at it, and you
Speaker 5: have to agitate the water and you invite them to
Speaker 5: come and show themselves, and you have to snap a
Speaker 5: number of pictures, and then it's tedious to go back
Speaker 5: through and you have to look through each picture and
Speaker 5: see a lot of times they show their faces. I've
Speaker 5: captured many faces of the loved one that we can
Speaker 5: validate with a picture. But this time I didn't capture
Speaker 5: his face. I didn't capture a face. But in the
Speaker 5: bowl of Water, almost like a perfect house is shown
Speaker 5: with a roof, two stories, a porch. I'm telling you
Speaker 5: it's architecture in a bowl of water. It's one of
Speaker 5: the most remarkable pictures I've ever seen. So not only
Speaker 5: was he able to validate through the box audibly, yes
Speaker 5: I'm building a big, lovely house, he was able to
Speaker 5: show a picture of a house with a roof in everything.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, crazy and great. Yes, that's great.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 4: Of course, So somebody right now has probably already downloaded
Speaker 4: the app. I guarantee you that what advice would you
Speaker 4: have for people to it? Because to me, it took
Speaker 4: a little something to figure out, like what it.
Speaker 5: Does, it's an a traditional thing.
Speaker 4: I don't read instructions too well. I just want to
Speaker 4: dive in and play with it.
Speaker 5: No, I know you'll be anyone else that does that. Now,
Speaker 5: I totally get that, and I'm like that too. The
Speaker 5: best thing I could say is this, definitely take that time,
Speaker 5: like we said to focus beforehand, right, at least do that.
Speaker 5: Then sit quietly and pick out a voice. There's a
Speaker 5: number of different see if I can even just pull
Speaker 5: it up while I'm talking to you. But there's a
Speaker 5: number of different voice tracks that you can choose. So
Speaker 5: on the bottom of the app there's a little lifeline
Speaker 5: thing and you hit that and it will bring it
Speaker 5: to the box, and then there's a select a bank,
Speaker 5: so you would select a bank. There's a bunch of
Speaker 5: different gender tracks. So I'm just gonna pick middle aged
Speaker 5: male for right now. I'm going to pick that. Okay,
Speaker 5: So you're going to want to hit record. So when
Speaker 5: you're ready, everything's pretty much all set up. You don't
Speaker 5: have to like set any settings or anything like that, Okay,
Speaker 5: but you want to record because even though you may
Speaker 5: hear something in real time, you really want to record
Speaker 5: it so you can go back and listen to it
Speaker 5: or share it with others, or you may miss it.
Speaker 5: But when you go back and listen you're going to
Speaker 5: catch it. So I like to hit record and say, hello, Hello,
Speaker 5: this is me sending you love. Can you hear me?
Speaker 5: And then stop? So that's it, and the length of time,
Speaker 5: and it sounded like something might have come through. I'm
Speaker 5: not going to go back and listen to it now,
Speaker 5: but it sounded like maybe someone's sitting here with me
Speaker 5: listening with me, which happens a lot of times. But
Speaker 5: when we're opening this gate, we want to hit the record.
Speaker 5: You ask the question nothing too long, something somewhat direct,
Speaker 5: and then you just want to slide this thing open
Speaker 5: for a second or two and then close it, and
Speaker 5: so there's a little bit of a delay the sound
Speaker 5: will come out, and then you want to stop recording.
Speaker 5: Don't open this thing too long, Okay, it's just a
Speaker 5: second or two, and then close it. And then eventually
Speaker 5: you can work your way up to maybe opening it
Speaker 5: up just a tad longer and letting a little bit
Speaker 5: more sound come out. But that allows for just the
Speaker 5: right amount of sound that the spirit can use to
Speaker 5: form their own response. And you're hoping that they're only
Speaker 5: giving you a two to three word response, because anything
Speaker 5: longer can be a little tougher to make out at
Speaker 5: first if you're kind of getting started and know that
Speaker 5: it's not going to maybe work at first. It may
Speaker 5: take a little bit of time for you to get it,
Speaker 5: for your loved one to get it. But it works.
Speaker 5: It works like there's no question about it. If you
Speaker 5: read the reviews, some people will say, oh, I didn't
Speaker 5: get anything, but the majority of the people that left
Speaker 5: reviews are like, this is amazing. I'm getting direct responses
Speaker 5: with my name saying yes, I'm right here. There's no
Speaker 5: words in this thing. There's not a single word. It's
Speaker 5: all gibberish. I've always asked paranormal investigators, well, how do
Speaker 5: you think that PSB seven or the radio spear boxes work?
Speaker 5: And some have thought that they're plucking words from the
Speaker 5: broadcast and timing it upright to give a response, and
Speaker 5: I said, no, I don't think that's what it is.
Speaker 5: And I did a lot more testing to figure that
Speaker 5: out that No, they're taking the errant sound and forming
Speaker 5: their own responses with it. So that's how it's being done.
Speaker 4: I believe that one hundred percent all leading stuff I've done,
Speaker 4: that's totally what I believe. And there's no time they say.
Speaker 4: On the other side, so what seems to us like
Speaker 4: a split second to them, oh, they could have been
Speaker 4: working on it twenty minutes, getting about right.
Speaker 5: I will say that I have had times where I'm
Speaker 5: late to doing a session and they'll say, we've been
Speaker 5: waiting here for you or you're late. And I thought
Speaker 5: that was interesting because as I understand that there really
Speaker 5: is no time on the other side, I think when
Speaker 5: they're interacting with us, they have to interact with time.
Speaker 5: I've had them say, you know, well he waited and
Speaker 5: he left or something like that, or you know, why
Speaker 5: haven't we spoken a while? You know someone I've asked
Speaker 5: for a while ago, and then I've asked for or
Speaker 5: I'll ask for them again they'll say like it's been
Speaker 5: a while or something. So I don't know exactly what
Speaker 5: the relativity is as far as the time goes, but
Speaker 5: I think that there's some kind of interaction with time
Speaker 5: still on some level.
Speaker 4: And we have to remember our people there still have
Speaker 4: their personality. We have to be polite, right, this is
Speaker 4: a big thing, and they're really working hard to work
Speaker 4: with us. They are respectful of somebody's time who's alive, right,
Speaker 4: So we got to the same thing right. We're going
Speaker 4: to take a break now, but before we do, I
Speaker 4: want to tell you, as I'm editing this episode for
Speaker 4: you on my phone, popped, you have some memories. And
Speaker 4: for those of you who have been listening for a while,
Speaker 4: my former boyfriend died not too long ago, and so
Speaker 4: these former memories are with him. Is it him trying
Speaker 4: to come through? Do we want to do a little
Speaker 4: experiment while we're together today? Maybe we'll be right back.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
Speaker 4: and you're hearing from Joshua Lewis, who is the creator
Speaker 4: of the Hope Spirit Box app HSB pro computer program.
Speaker 4: You can find out more about him at Hope Paranormal
Speaker 4: dot com. But let's find out about Josh's book, which
Speaker 4: is called Finding Hope in the Afterlife.
Speaker 5: So Finding Hope in the Afterlife, it's available on Amazon,
Speaker 5: and the first part of it really is my personal story,
Speaker 5: the nitty gritty of it. I really hold nothing back.
Speaker 5: I share a lot of difficult I don't say embarrassing,
Speaker 5: but just very tough moments that I was very vulnerable
Speaker 5: in sharing that I wanted to do that. But then
Speaker 5: I really break down a lot of other things. I
Speaker 5: break down the definitive facts that I have found from
Speaker 5: doing this work, not the speculative stuff, just on my
Speaker 5: beliefs about religion, about how some of it can also
Speaker 5: counter what we're finding. I mean, there were so many
Speaker 5: things that I didn't know if I was going to
Speaker 5: be able to put in there, and I almost thought, Oh,
Speaker 5: that's too heavy or that's too crazy to talk about,
Speaker 5: and I almost would go past it and not put
Speaker 5: it in. But I felt the guides and the divine
Speaker 5: help bring me back to that point and say no,
Speaker 5: that needs to go in there or whatever. This was
Speaker 5: my personal relationship with Jesus Christ, which is not a
Speaker 5: religious thing. This is not about religion at all. I
Speaker 5: talk about the other aspects of intuitive ability. I talk
Speaker 5: about the scientific work. I've done experiments in PK in
Speaker 5: moving things with my mind. I mean, that's pretty awesome
Speaker 5: stuff I've been able to successfully do that. I've done
Speaker 5: astral projection. I mean, I did an experiment where I
Speaker 5: asked three people on three separate occasions. I said, I'm
Speaker 5: going to visit you at night in spirit that before
Speaker 5: you go to bed, text me and let me know
Speaker 5: you're going to sleep, and I'm going to go and meditate,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to leave my body in astral projection,
Speaker 5: and I'm going to go into your home and give
Speaker 5: me permission to do that. I'm going to just tap
Speaker 5: or touch a part of your body, and in the morning,
Speaker 5: when you wake up it's like a dream, you're going
Speaker 5: to just know if it worked. I don't know if
Speaker 5: it will work, I said, but if it does, you'll
Speaker 5: wake up and you'll just know exactly where it was
Speaker 5: in what happened. Just text me. And the first person
Speaker 5: I did this too. It was actually a client that
Speaker 5: I helped her with an investigation. So I leave my
Speaker 5: body and I see above my house and I fly
Speaker 5: like in a second, and I go to her front
Speaker 5: yard and I go in her house, and it seemed
Speaker 5: like her dog noticed when I came in, which is interesting.
Speaker 5: And I go into her bedroom and I see her
Speaker 5: right ankle, and I see that there's a tattoo there,
Speaker 5: which I did not know she had. I couldn't tell
Speaker 5: what the tattoo was because it was still a kind
Speaker 5: of a little blurry, but I tapped her on the
Speaker 5: tattoo on the right ankle. When the next morning she
Speaker 5: woke up, she goes my right calf, my right ankle,
Speaker 5: and I did it two more times and it worked
Speaker 5: all three times. But the last person was a friend
Speaker 5: of mine, and his right arm was hanging off his bed.
Speaker 5: And this is like one of my best friends, and
Speaker 5: so I grabbed his wrist and I really squeezed it.
Speaker 5: Not that he him, but he's like one of my buddies.
Speaker 5: We always played around and joked around. But I really
Speaker 5: squeezed his wrists to see if anything could happen. And
Speaker 5: the next morning he woke up and he sent me
Speaker 5: a picture of his wrist. There was a red mark,
Speaker 5: and so you could tell that that is what's happening.
Speaker 5: That someone can still affect from the other side, affect
Speaker 5: this environment, and that experiment really proved that. So there
Speaker 5: was a number of other things that I worked on
Speaker 5: that I talk about in the book, and because I
Speaker 5: really wanted to dive into all aspects of different modalities
Speaker 5: and different intuition.
Speaker 4: You know, Oh, so glad you did. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: if people can turn lights on and off and change
Speaker 4: the station, there's almost so many things that we can do, right,
Speaker 4: I don't know how easy it is, will know once
Speaker 4: we get there by manipulating it. Why not? And I've
Speaker 4: been studying a lot and talking to our friends at
Speaker 4: ions Institute for Noetic Sciences there about our consciousness being
Speaker 4: outside of our body. So yeah, it's not when we die.
Speaker 4: What's possible when we're human. And Joshua, I just want
Speaker 4: to thank you for what you have put in the book,
Speaker 4: because nobody wants to learn from a person that seems perfect.
Speaker 4: They don't we want to know somebody's been in the trenches,
Speaker 4: they've had it tough, and then here's where we're at.
Speaker 4: And your life isn't perfect. My life isn't perfect, but
Speaker 4: we found our passion. And better than finding passion is
Speaker 4: being of service. And I think anytime we set our
Speaker 4: eyes on making a difference with another person or people,
Speaker 4: we can't go wrong. Whatever that is. So I really
Speaker 4: want to thank you for just being real.
Speaker 5: I think what you're saying is exactly the truth. And
Speaker 5: I'm not knocking anyone. But if I hear someone talking
Speaker 5: like they've mastered life, they have no more fear, They're
Speaker 5: like floating on air. God bless you, that's great. If
Speaker 5: you have reached that level, I think that's awesome. But
Speaker 5: I am still spiritual, being heavy human experience, There's no
Speaker 5: question about that. But I'm a flawed individual and I
Speaker 5: don't want to act like I've got it figured out.
Speaker 5: I still have doubts, I still get angry sometimes, I
Speaker 5: still have moments. I'm very human in that sense, and
Speaker 5: so I'm trying to figure out things. I'm trying to
Speaker 5: understand things, and I think it's important that I share
Speaker 5: that vulnerability with you, that I don't have all this
Speaker 5: thing figured out. There's a famous line in Red Hot
Speaker 5: Chili Pepper's song It's like the more I see, the
Speaker 5: less I know, the more I'd like to let it go.
Speaker 5: And that's really an amazing line, because as I get older,
Speaker 5: I feel like it's the less I know, it's really not.
Speaker 5: I think it's just a little bit more maybe humility
Speaker 5: I'm hoping creeping in. And that's all I'm trying to
Speaker 5: do is gain a little bit more humility because Senter
Speaker 5: or Saint, I am his child, and if I can
Speaker 5: remember that at all times, then I'm in a good space.
Speaker 4: You know, Yes, you are now on my show here
Speaker 4: we mainly talk about the afterlife, but I know you've
Speaker 4: got the pretty big YouTube channel, Hope Paranormal, and for
Speaker 4: people that are interested in delving further into the paranormal realm,
Speaker 4: I wholeheartedly suggest your website Hope paranormal dot com, but
Speaker 4: also following you on YouTube. You've had some interesting interviews
Speaker 4: and you've got a lot going on there, young man.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. You know it used to be
Speaker 5: more paranormal ish, I think when I first started out.
Speaker 5: You know, I still do a paranormal investigation. I hold
Speaker 5: live events where I'll do a three day live event
Speaker 5: where the first day we'll do a little investigation at
Speaker 5: a location, the second day I'll give a presentation on
Speaker 5: the stuff that I found, and then the third day
Speaker 5: I'll give a gallery group session for anyone that's in attendance.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of this afterlife experience that I like
Speaker 5: to do. But the majority of the sessions I'm doing
Speaker 5: are more their advanced instrumental transcommunication session, so it's not
Speaker 5: as much paranormal anymore. Like hope is an acronym, it
Speaker 5: used to be for helpers of paranormal entity, but I
Speaker 5: think it's evolved now more into helping other people evolve.
Speaker 5: That's really what it feels like for me now, but
Speaker 5: it's been a ten year period of evolving to that.
Speaker 4: You know, I love it. Well, our time is coming
Speaker 4: to an end. Is anything else you'd like to share
Speaker 4: before we go our separate ways?
Speaker 5: No, Just again, I have to say that I love
Speaker 5: seeing you in that documentary with Sonya Naldi. I think
Speaker 5: that was amazing, and the work that she's doing and
Speaker 5: the interviews that you're doing, I think is fantastic, and
Speaker 5: so I hope to work with more and share more
Speaker 5: about this. But I thank you for the work that
Speaker 5: you're doing and spreading this around, so I think it's
Speaker 5: just awesome. So thank you.
Speaker 4: You're welcome. I can't help but share what I love
Speaker 4: and share people that I love, and you're just real,
Speaker 4: you know, thank you real. And I think if we
Speaker 4: can remember when the first cell phones came out, how
Speaker 4: big and clunky they were, and look what we have now,
Speaker 4: same thing with your spirit box. You just don't know
Speaker 4: how that's going to evolve and who may also get
Speaker 4: involved and create, and it just could be the start
Speaker 4: of something slighted, really special.
Speaker 5: Thank you special, So thank you look forward.
Speaker 4: Josh is a pretty cool guy, isn't he? And I
Speaker 4: do believe that it's out of our deepest, darkest, most
Speaker 4: painful times that we experience soul growth and in that
Speaker 4: we go on to share and make a difference with others.
Speaker 4: You might not write a book, you might not create
Speaker 4: a spirit box app, but just by being around someone else,
Speaker 4: you might have the perfect thing they need to hear
Speaker 4: for what they are dealing with. Now, what I'd like
Speaker 4: to do is just open up this Hope spirit Box
Speaker 4: app and see if my dear Michael would like to
Speaker 4: come through. Yeah, and the last segment together, all of
Speaker 4: a sudden on my cell phone popped up some memories
Speaker 4: with him, and that's very rare for that to happen.
Speaker 4: So let's go for it. So my cell phone is
Speaker 4: in my hand with the Hope spirit Box app open.
Speaker 4: In honesty, I have not sat for the fifteen minutes
Speaker 4: and done the meditation, but let's try it. Okay, First
Speaker 4: I have to pick out the voice, so I'm picking
Speaker 4: older male two, which won't make him very happy because
Speaker 4: even though he was in his fifties when he passed,
Speaker 4: thought of himself as a very young man. I'm pressing
Speaker 4: the record button and it says, allow Hope spirit Box
Speaker 4: to use your microphone. Yes, I'll click allow, Michael. I
Speaker 4: am recording an episode of Shades of the Afterlife, and
Speaker 4: we want to say hello, do you have some words
Speaker 4: for me or our audience today? I couldn't hear that,
Speaker 4: but let's try that again. And let's try that one
Speaker 4: more time, and I promise the next time I'll follow
Speaker 4: Joshua's instructions and do the meditation. That sounded like it
Speaker 4: could have been a hello. I'm not sure as I
Speaker 4: know with EVPs, sometimes with only a one minute recording,
Speaker 4: it may take an hour to go through and keep
Speaker 4: looping the voice over and over until either you understand
Speaker 4: it or you wish to throw it away. I hope
Speaker 4: you enjoyed this episode today. Like any EVP work, it's
Speaker 4: not a one shot deal. You have to practice. Your
Speaker 4: loved ones have to practice. I'm taking it as a
Speaker 4: sign that Michael wants to communicate this way by having
Speaker 4: those pictures randomly show up on my phone while I
Speaker 4: was editing this episode. You never know. What we do
Speaker 4: know is that they are around us, they love us,
Speaker 4: that life after death is real, that our life here matters,
Speaker 4: and we are a one of a kind, divine soul
Speaker 4: having a human experience. Well, my friend, our time together
Speaker 4: is up. I want to remind you come visit me
Speaker 4: Atweedn'tdie dot Com. Always so many good things going on,
Speaker 4: including our free Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included. We've
Speaker 4: got some great medium classes. You don't have to be
Speaker 4: a medium to participate. It's just an opportunity to experience
Speaker 4: your soul in action and our loved ones come through.
Speaker 4: If you're a fan of this show, feel free to
Speaker 4: give me a rating on one of those podcast apps
Speaker 4: and let me know what you think. In closing, I'm
Speaker 4: Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to Shades
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